How do people feel about Brexit three years on? - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2025
- The Brexit referendum of 2016 divided the UK. For some Brexit was an exhilarating opportunity, for others a self-inflicted wound.
It led to the immediate downfall of former prime minister David Cameron, the tormenting and eventual toppling of his successor Theresa May, and along the way it raised questions about the durability of the United Kingdom.
So three years after the UK left the EU, how are people feeling in Westminster, and in Sunderland? - the place where results first indicated that Brexit was on the way.
Newsnight’s political editor Nick Watt has been assessing the political mood.
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"We wanted the benefits of membership without the costs."
These people are adults right?
No, apparently not! We tried arguing with them, trying to make them understand they would lose benefits and a voice (kept using allegories of a divorce, of leaving a gym membership) but they would not listen...
Nope, they're political cultists just like americans
Two-shayyyyyy!
i want a divorce but i still want to shag my wife every weekend.
'@@lenawagenfuehr53 'WE tried arguing with them'!!?? ha ha ha , Weve not lost our voice we've just got it back . You can take your corrupt, greedy, power mad dictatorship & stick it where the sun dont shine!!! The UK will be around well after the hated bloc is gone and forgotten .
Politicians: "If we get out of the EU, all the money we send them can be used here to improve our country!"
UK citizens: "Cool. Now that we made it out of the EU, where are the millions of dollars we were supposed to be saving after the brexit?"
Politicians: "What money?"
This is it basically. Lies.
Politics and economics are complicated. Not everyone has the education, desire or time to really look into these things. We all need to defer to other people's expertise, and we all underestimated the extent the Brexiteers were out to deceive. Farage knew we didn't send 350 million to the EU every week, and he knew leaving the EU would not bring those 350 million into the NHS. But many Brits believed those lies. What they wanted was a good thing. They were just deprived of a meaningful vote, because all the dishonesty made it impossible for us to really know what we were voting for or against.
There needs to be repercussions for this sort of thing. It undermines democracy itself and until people like Farage suffer some personal consequences, such deceptions will continue.
Who would have believed something so silly however, it was far cheaper to have more centralized processes. Efficiency saves money.
The UK left the EU for two reasons the first a segment of their society is sorely lacking in education and overall knowledge as to how the world runs and
secondly they bought into hate towards others being a problem and that immigrants somehow took something from them.
It’s sad and pathetic and shameful.
@@lijohnyoutube101 And most people claiming benefits are actually English. Truthfully, the proportion of migrants relying on unemployment or disability benefits is very small in comparison. Fact. They want a job - even if to send money back home.
Millions sent to Rwanda is just one example .
Don't blame the politicians. It was a choice of adult voters to accept the known uncertainties for the greater good. They consciously decided to "take back control".
It's kind of funny that the Brits can no longer blame the EU for their problems
That's where You are wrong
@@GCS88hahaha hahaha. Yes. We still blame French border control for not letting us into their country quick enough.
@@GCS88 I live in France and did so before Brexit and wasn’t allowed to vote but soon after was eligible to apply for a WARP resident permit. There are now people in Spain, France and Italy that travelled back to the UK and voted leave and now are only allowed to stay in their ‘dream homes for the allowed 90 days.
These are the ones now moaning about Brexit, i as a french resident can travel across Europe with no problems, i can leave France for up to 5 years before it affects my residency. I returned to the UK last year to work, showed my passport and as expected it was not stamped.
The people that lived abroad and voted leave only have their selves to blame
@@bg3841Even though the Dover Port Authorities asked for ten extra custom booths years ago as they foresaw the problem of all the extra checks taking far longer and BoZo granted them a tenth of what they asked for.
Furthermore, BoZo bragged about recruiting 500 Custom clerks, despite a previous White Paper saying we needed many thousands to deal with all the goods entering and leaving the UK from and to the EU. In comparison , Rotterdam alone took on 800, just to cope with goods to and from one city to country.
I'm a Brit, I never blamed the EU for our problems.
And sadly, the Brexit cultists are in fact still blaming the EU for our problems.
They will never accept responsibility for their own choices, ever. The EU will always be a big scary scapegoat for the Tories while they rob the people blind.
I got a bunch of British friends, all between the age of 22-30.
Every single one of them is so upset about Brexit and how it not only caused a crisis within the UK but also completely fucked up their opportunities to live, work and move in the EU.
They're all trying desperately to get an Irish passport through their Irish nan/grandfather...
Erm, they aren’t , child. Calm down and see a doctor. Nobody gives a shite about Europe, why would we?
Irish passport offices are behind over here because of it. Sanctions on yourselves make no sense. Older people just haven’t thought of their grandchildren.
@@shiftylad9938 Without grandparents most young people couldn’t have families of their own. We are their banks and chief child carers. Get a grip.
I'm English and you are talking bollocks nothings changed in my life
Made very little change in our lives.
I like how the brexiteers describe it as "the best decision we ever made" but still aren't able to describe a single tangible benefit from leaving the EU.
The EU is a failing "project" and the UK is better off being free of the wreckage when it all comes crashing down.
The uk though is being compounded by the fact that its people allowed for multinational companies to dominate and let small businesses die which isn't the case in France Germany or Italy.
Had France Germany or Italy its economy would be performing better than the UK right now.
We aren't in the EU.
@@happyjonn9242 Oh great that will help me feed my kids
We don't have to listen to the EUs annoying ass rules is the biggest benefit of Brexit if Norway can manage to survive Britain shoulda been able to but the government as expected failed to sort it
The lady with the dog really sums it up with how brexit got voted in, starts off by saying “it hasn’t really made a huge difference to my life” and follows that up with “I still think it was a good idea”
No thought put into it, no reasons given, just a decision made on a whim
Sounds like an american
@@oldstix perhaps but someone should tell her that the ‘wogs’ keep coming. Brexit stopped the flow of migrants from the EU. It did not and could not affect migration from outside the EU which the UK could have and could control if it wanted to but did not. The Brexiteers have pulled a cunning stunt. Question is has anyone benefited. Outside the EU and not applying procurement rules, the Johnson government handed out juicy contracts to its friends.
@@oldstix - by reducing immigration from white majority EU countries?
AJCgolf: Did you get a vote on joining the EU in 1992?
@@smokeango why is that relevant?
I think it's funny that the UK thought they could keep all the benefits of the EU without paying to be a member of the EU.
The UK didn't think that. The Brexiteer little-Englanders believed that.
@@occamraiser ...and the majority of the Welsh, the 30-40% of Scots?...you're a clown.
@RandomShart Think you need to take your head out of the sand.
@RandomShart Look at the shelves in grocery stores. I guess you like the idea of substituting turnips for tomatoes--only there aren't enough turnips, either.
@RandomShart You must be living in an alternative reality then!
as an Australian this decision just seemed insane at the time and most of us laughed at it including all the people I know who are from the UK thought it was totally stupid
As an Australian, almost all our nearest neighbours are about 8-10 hours away on a plane. Our options are limited. To be a train ride away from a huge list of countries to work, live and play sounds like a dream. The Brit’s should have come and lived here for a while to understand what it’s like to have close to zero easy options.
@@pablosskates7067 well the stupid thing was they wanted they expected the benefits of being in the EU to stays but what they considered the negatives to stops and now they are what.do you mean I need to pay to get a entry visa into the EU LOL
Stupid trumpers , but english. America hasnt ruined Canada yet, but it will happen
What's more stupid, brexit or electing Trump president? #Can'tFixStupid
Most of the uk knew it was stupid. I know lots of elderly people who didn't bother voting because they thought it was a load of nonsense. They were shocked by the result. It was obviously a con, I feel sorry for the people who got suckered.
“We’d be a rich country”?? We cut our ties with our biggest trading partner and this man thought it would make us rich? What planet is he on?
Sadly he’s the guy in charge lol
Mars apparently
You realise they were the biggest trading partners because of all the tariffs they put on to trade outside of it don't you? The EU block the uk from a trade deal with China worth billions to the economy when Cameron was in charge.
@@lunoxyajpw2679 you people 😂 seriously the EU blocking British trade was only 10 years ago you can't be that dopy
Planet bozo
I feel so sorry for the youth in Britain. They've lost numerous opportunities that other countries in EU have.
Like what?
I feel sorry for them because of the internet,we had fk all growing up in the 80s but our lives were far richer ,and famous people were famous due to talent
They had the right to education courses across the EU cheaper than the U.K. the right to work in places like Ibiza, Chamonix, for summer and winter which are jobs they no longer have opportunity for. Older people had the right to retire to the sun without needing to be wealthy.
All Brexit did was make us poorer and less free
@@locn You’ll never know now!
@@locn To start with free university exchange programs like Erasmus.
It's like when you leave your partner thinking you can do better only to realize you were wrong, but now you are too embarrassed to beg them to take you back, so you start pretending it's all good.
And said partner has moved on and got a hair piece that’s working for them
Perfectly put. Expats didn't get a vote althought in my case I still am a serving member of the britisch Army Reserve but live in Germany. An old Army friend contacted me this week asking to get him German showergel because he can't buy it in the UK anymore and he's prepared to pay the 20-25 pound Post and package.....he voted to get out.
@@expatingermany7685 I’m an expat (have lived in SEA for over 10 years) and I voted, why weren’t you able to?
@@Harry-TramAnh 15 years was the threshold.
@@Harry-TramAnh apparantly althought i was a serving member of the britisch Army i hadn't been a Resident of the UK for over 7years.
As a remain voter. The vote was almost split 50/50. So half the country was very angry and sad at the result. Many like me still are. It was the most idiotic decision ever made
I still don't understand how a 50/50 vote can be considered democratic. Even a 49/51 vote shouldn't be considered as reflecting the view of the British people, votes that are as important as Brexit should have at least 60-70% of the population in favour imo.
@@TheEvilpot Absolutely
@@TheEvilpot They did. Less than 1/3 of the UK electorate voted to remain.
@@billgreen576and by your logic less than 1/3 voted to leave. That’s how a 48/52 vote split works extrapolated to the whole population.
@@kghovanlou I agree but from my analysis perspective, so weak was the relationship with the UK electorate and the EU that after 40 years of membership less than 1/3 of the UK electorate could be bothered to vote to save it. And it was made clear repeatedly that a vote was needed to save the relationship. In addition the UK electorate was never given a vote to join in the first place and in none of the further treaties were they given a vote either.
In Europe almost no one mentions BREXIT, it is a past issue and of course no one considers that the United Kingdom could return, since Brexit everything works better in the European Union and even the extreme right parties no longer talk about leaving. Farange, Johnson and others have done the European Union a great favor4
Absolutely agre
We had so many EU exit loud voices in Greece before 2020 and now that the UK has officially left, everyone has been quiet
@@dimiathanyep same in Poland. It was a riddiculous idea to begin with considering how much Poland benefited from EU and the support for it was marginal (Poland had and perhaps still has the biggest support for EU out of all members), but after Brexit it disappeared completely.
Looks like everybody is happy except for the majority of UK voters. Oh well, this is democracy
Brexit even brought EU more together !
Brexit and its consequences is seen as a pure UK topic and no mainland paper writes even a single letter for months ( reading dutch, french ,german papers on a daily basis )
As a Brit living in an EU country I was horrified at Britain's decision to leave the EU. The British people were tricked into leaving by blatant lies by Farage and Johnson. Many people seem to have forgotten the fact that Britain received a lot of money from the EU for various projects. This fatal decision could eventually lead to devolution if Scotland becomes independent and the United Kingdom will cease to exist. Absolute lunacy.
What does it have to do with you? you don't live here anymore. We don't tell you or your country what you should do so don't tell us what to do.
It wasn't EU money it was OUR money.
@@happyjonn9242 Gobsmacked by your post. All the rights of expat Brits in the EU ripped away overnight, and most of them didn't even have a vote on it.
@@happyjonn9242 What Brexit benefits would you miss if we rejoined the EU?
@@happyjonn9242 brexitter to the core you nasty POS
Honestly the woman with the dog's response has become the standard of many modern conservatives. Being "It hasn't personally effected my life in any capacity, and I do not fear it impacting my life, so I am fine with it."
No sense of broader country or community, simply, me and my family are fine, and that's all I really care about at the end of the day.
It's literally what labor does all the time. Ironic comment.
@@marekkac7046 such nonsense. Labor: Hey let's make sure immigrants are treated with respect. Tories: Nah I wanna worry about me. Labor: hey let's make sure the minimum wage is a fair price so that people don't have to struggle. Tories: nah, I don't make minimum wage I don't give a shit. Labor: We are part of Europe there is a reason we are in the EU we need to stand together. Tories: nah fuck Europe.
Must I go on?
It's why I lmao every time they pretend they're patriots. Everything is "me, me, me" but at the same time "I love my country, I want what's best", yeah best for themselves.
@@marekkac7046 yeah makes sense. Labour raise the tax rate so they can improve national infrastructure, no care for the country in that regard.
Seethe. Cope harder.
Exactly! selfish pricks.
You are so on point. The decline in US democracy is following suit, with a large portion of Americans not understanding the principals of governance, economy, and social balance. Perplexing is the human existence.
America is sleepwalking into dictatorship and decline. Heartbreaking.
USA has never had democracy Money buys the US votes always has.
Makes me think of the film Idiocracy
I’m watching this a year later and your comment is spot on
I'm a Malaysian working in Singapore. Both countries are in the Commonwealth and have millions of investment in the UK, but most if not all of them were prior to Brexit. This was due to the familiarity of the language, laws, culture and much more due to being former colonies of the British. In short, we were used to the British and found it easier to invest in the UK because of that, and as a gateway into the EU. Post-Brexit, businesses here are concentrating on investments in the EU directly, and bypassing the UK, despite the different legal systems and languages. Oh, and Malaysia and Singapore are part of ASEAN (Association of South-East Asia Nations), which aspires to integrate their economies like the EU.
As for the Brexiter's dream or aspiration of becoming a Singapore-on-Thames, well, Singaporeans are more pragmatic and realistic than Brexiters. They had to be in order to create the modern and successful Singapore that Brexiters want to emulate. Ask them if they want to exit ASEAN or exit the EU if they were part of it, the answer would be a resounding NO.
Almost everybody here that I talked to about Brexit thought that it was financial and business suicide for the British. And most if not all, put it down to the UK harking back to the days of the British Empire. It wasn't helped by the fact that many Brexiter politicians and businessmen thought that the Commonwealth and the World would gladly trade with the UK on an individual basis. Why should they? And what advantage is there to trading with the UK when it is not a gateway into the EU? Business is business, and it would always look at the bottom line. Brexiters seemed to have forgotten that, or totally ignored it altogether. And with the recent news from the IMF that the UK is the only major economy expected to shrink in 2023, as well as to do worse than Russia (which is heavily sanctioned by the world and fighting a war in the Ukraine) in 2023, well, so much for Brexit!
Everything that you wrote was so blindingly obvious to anyone with a brain yet even smacking a Brexidiot in the face with a length of 2x4, trying to explain this, they'd metaphorically be lying there, bleeding and saying "but sov'rinty init?" Or "furriners out".
I wish them all the worst outcome ever, absolutely zero sympathy.
I just wish I wasn't trapped here on shithole prison Island along with 17.4 million morons.
So true!
ohh another fake account from a layabout labour supporter , nice try now uck off to the eu and dont come back
You absolutely hit the nail on the head. Brexiters genuinely thought everyone would want to trade with Britain simply because Britain is Britain.
I VOTED BREXIT TO STOP MORE EASTERN EUROPEAN FREE LOADERS & CRIMINALS GETTING IN WHEN THEY JOINED IN 2004 5.7 MILLION FLOODED IN 68,000 BABIES BORN 4,5 BILLION IN SOCIAL SECURITY ETC NOW PRISONS ARE FULL OF MIGRANT CRIMINALS ALL EUROPE SEND BRITAIN IS ILLIGALS MIGRANT CRIMINALS & FREE LOADERS
How shameful and disgusting it is to see people celebrating 'the best decision we ever made' ruining so many people's lives.
Worst decision ever
@capri2673 Not complete members, but closely related. Do not compare apples with oranges
You are oblivious to reality
@Capri yes, but are closely aligned and absolutely nothing like the UK..
They done the same with thatcher. So I hope there is a lot of thatcher votes suffering now.
It's just sad that in a country where over 99 % of the population are literate and have access to all kinds of information, so many fell for the silly idea that "EU only takes our money and all we get in return is rules, and as soon as we have left the EU, there will be absolutely no more problems."
Cameron refused any influence of the EU in the media to explain the benefits of the common market, freedom of movement, etc. It was so poorely prepared that incompetence can't explain it all. I am pretty sure a few have hugely benefited from this whole mess, and therefore, pushed for it.
Being literate and being stupid are not mutually exclusive.
@@-_James_- Correct. I meant it in the way that most literate people do not use that ability to acquire knowledge but insist on their "right to be stupid" and go for the simple, convenient (i.e. usually stupid) answer.
Around 25% of the UK population are functionally illiterate. 50% can't manage 5 GCSEs.
That's assuming that those people who are literate are actually intelligent, therein lies your mistake. As a Brit who voted remain I've now left the country, as have so many other people I know. The attitude of the average Brit is just too nasty and negative and bigoted to want to deal with on a daily basis.
Imagine being able to live anywhere in 27 countries, from the coasts of Spain, to the vineyards of Italy, to the tech center of Berlin, to the islands of Greece and the French countryside....No questions asked, no visa or job needed... and preferring to instead limit yourself to a cold, rainy, northern Atlantic island, with a dying health system, about the size of Wyoming, never able to leave again and thinking as you sip tea in your damp overpriced terrace house that "no one is taking away your jobs anymore and you've taken back control from Brussels" with no change to your daily life other than negative impact. LOL
There literally hasn't been a more stupid choice known to man.
That's funny
@@theone8557 sad and funny
The Brtis have never been as smart as the French or as the Americans.
@@princetonscholar5723 I would say the Americans are the least bright 😂
@@jakey4683 See, I told you the Brits are the dimmest of the bulbs: Brexit = Food Banks
In 1965 I joined a highly successful machine tool company selling 80% in the UK market and 20% in Export markets - mainly in Europe. Our Export admin and sales teams were double the number of those on Home sales, essential because of the complexities involved - not least of which was the mountain of documentation relating to movement of goods across various borders. Processing an order from a UK customer meant handling a single piece of paper; processing an export order meant getting to grips with a substantial portfolio. The term "red tape" was so nebulous really and didn't shed any light on the reality of the work and cost involved. Joining the EU changed all that, and exporting was so much smoother, easier and costs were reduced dramatically. Brexit brought those nightmares back for businesses who had no idea what was about to hit them. I knew, but obviously Farage, Johnson and the other charlatans didn't have a clue.
Oh they knew, but that's not where they make their money so didn't care, but they're now terrified that people are beginning to realise they were conned.
@@investmystonks7048 Uneducated? - Well, clearly this guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about!
@@investmystonks7048 I’m sorry but you seem to be a member of the uneducated group.
And frankly pretty ignorant!
I don’t think you work in the export department. Especially with your attitude that you think that it’s the EU being difficult that are the problem!
My bet is that you are a janitor of that company!
@@truthtotell7583 who is “this guy” ?
@@investmystonks7048 You are right - you would recognise an educated fool of uncommonly low intelligence. JIT manufacturing philosophies are dependent upon total unimterrupted flow of materials and data/ information across national boundaries. Disrupt logistically effective supply chains and a whole dimension of globally competitive companies simply disappears leaving them to wither on the Vine. Intra EU movement has no non value added beaureacracy and can pass the savings onto customers in a competitive 'stand off' wit UK companies. UK death by slow asphisyation and nose diving purchasing power of the pound in your pocket... you Brits are an uncommonly low intelligence lot YOU WERE TOLD THIS BY PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW. If a Frenchman has a good lover and a nice bottle of wine why should he leave the house early to convenience a country outside the EU - they are sovereign as well you know!.
"Yeah it's been a shitstorm but I still think it was a good idea because I have no brain and admitting that I was wrong hurts me more than my worsening economical situation."
I honestly think most people are too stupid to even realize they were wrong.
😂
What is funny you say brexiteers don’t have a brain yet you still live in the uk and cannot leave without fom. Really I wonder who does not have a brain as if you did and it was that bad why have you not left.
Lmao
Lol, still sulking?
As someone from outside of the UK, you can only laugh at the idiots who persuaded their citizens to commit financial and business suicide.
You obviously do not have the full information. The UK never adopted the Euro, ask why! Business wise, the UK has more trading partners now than it did in the EU, financially much better of in the medium to long term without the shackles of the EU.
@@chilesauce7248 oh that is the famous British copium.
@@chilesauce7248 more trading partners? You lost the EU. The US also didn't jump in to fill the void. So who are you talking about? Or are you mistaking inflation percentages with economic growth? Because then the UK is the winner indeed.
@@chilesauce7248 Why don't you call yourself just England and leave Scots out of it?
@@mihailchehlarov2720 Me thinks the UK shouldn't have dragged down Scotland, wales, and NI. Let England go at it alone.
They forgot they no longer have an empire😂
They keep remembering their glorious day lmao
Glorious days of colonialism.
Woman in Sunderland. “Don’t think it’s made a huge difference to my life. I thought it was a good idea at the time and I still think it was a good idea”. There’s Brexit logic for you. Meanwhile the country crumbles and anyone who traded anywhere further afield than a miserable beach in Sunderland has seen their businesses adversely impacted. 🙄
wilfully ignorant old codgers made up a large proportion of the leave vote, older people scared of change were more likely to vote leave. harking back to a rose tinted past that never exsisted.
Mackems have never been a bright bunch
No they haven’t, name all the business’s affected?
@@lestrem11 All business's trading with the EU face reams of paperwork and costly delays.
@@lestrem11 Well, I live in France and I can tell you numerous businesses that I used to trade with in the UK (building, construction, automotive etc), no longer trade with Europe as their economies of scale wouldn't allow it to cover the extra expense/hassle/paperwork.
Just last summer I placed an order with a UK company worth €9k. One order. The order took just one week to ship, but was diverted to Germany, returned to the UK, then made it to France where it was held by customs until all duty was cleared. Three months. Company stated they'd never trade with the EU again.
I also worked as European sales director for a UK firm that worked in construction. Prior to Brexit, 30% of its total sales £20m+/year, was to the EU. They closed their European arm because of post Brexit paperwork and I was made redundant.
What's more, I live in an area of France with a very high percentage of expat Brits with businesses. As was allowed by EU rules at the time, many had their companies in the UK not France.
As their tax status was British, they had no right to stay in Europe (only fully tax resident foreigners could) and they were forced to return to the UK.
As their businesses were entirely based on tourism (B&Bs, cycling holidays, skiing etc) within this region, they had to shut down. No opportunity to keep the business open and run it from the UK. People who'd worked for YEARS setting them up, establishing a client base, a network of local contacts etc. Small, independent businesses.
I heard from the local chamber of commerce that in one town alone, 30% of these types of business closed.
And families (and employees) many of whom had been here quite legally under EU law for years (kids at school etc, networks of friends, possibly home owners) for as much as two decades, had to leave.
And some were friends, this is not some kind of mythical story. And this was repeated across France, Italy, Spain and all other regions with large expat communities trying to make a go of things, and likely at a very bread and butter level.
Also my main role since I moved to France 17 years ago was in real estate sales and as the British/Anglophone specialist. I can tell you that the number of Brits buying property in France has dropped, by a lot and did so over night. There is absolutely no other reason they wouldn't still be buying in this region otherwise.
Brits used to account for 50% of buyers, now it's closer to 15%.
Finally, we used to buy a lot of stuff from the UK for personal reasons. For example I have a classic car I maintain personally. Parts from the UK were more abundant and cheaper. Now they're vastly more expensive and as per my example above, I risk all kinds of problems with customs etc.
So I no longer buy from the UK. Simply not worth the aggro. I can guarantee that that is replicated thousands of times over across the EU (whether expats or Europeans) who used to buy from UK suppliers and no longer do so.
Perhaps they've not gone bust, but many will have suffered some loss of revenue to a greater or lesser degree.
So I no longer trade with the UK, friends no longer trade with the UK, I have friends who were forced to close their independent businesses and leave the EU, I have seen a net drop in UK buyers in my sector directly as a result of Brexit regs (3 month rule) and finally a company I worked for closed its European arm, and I was made redundant directly as a result of Brexit.
Is that enough examples for you?
I find it amusing that the UK thinks that the EU would welcome them back with open arms...
If they come back this time no "opt out".
They have to joint the Euro, they have to join Schengen zone.
And all the other things that other members are willing to sacrifice for playing in a team!
Hopefully it wont happen - The UK should never be tied to the sh1tty EU.
Thank god we're out!
The EU would accept Britain back at some point in the future, but definitely not now. They have no interest in working with the Tories after the way they bungled Brexit. And now that Britain is out, it just isn't that important anymore. There are bigger issues for the EU to handle.
Brexit actually benefit the EU... lots of business moved out of the UK to France and other countries, and due to the clusterf*ck that Brexit revealed itself to be (unsurprisingly), decreased the "leave" sentiments from other EU states. I don't see why would the EU accept the UK back. I just hope that Scotland manages to get independence, and I'm certain the EU will receive them with open arms.
@@Christian-ut5um I give Britain less. Far less and why the BS name. Typical xenophobe.
One of the most egregious examples of a country shooting itself in both feet this observer has ever seen.
Shooting ourselves in the feet is pretty mild, I think we amputaed everything below the knees.
Yep. Oh how the mighty has fallen.
And then claim that the EU forced you to do so. . .
If anyone in the UK believes that the worst has passed, you better hold to something solid, because this is just the beginning of a downfall.
People find it very difficult to admit they were wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Today’s example is Liz Truss’s delusional account of her downfall.
Yup, Remoaners are childishly stubborn!
@@captainplanet483 Yeah you're so glad that you're here ranting and crying in the comments section 7 years later... Liking your own comments to pretend that others agree with you.
🤣
@@captainplanet483 I never voted Tory in my life either.
What a fool you've made of your self.. .mr self upvoter
@@captainplanet483 Your desperate attempts to anger me are even weaker than the remain campaign was.
You seem to be forgetting that I wanted brexit, and i'm happy with my vote.
Maybe I should vote for them next time - if it enrages you so much? Does it make you feel good knowing that you've influenced someone towards voting for who you hate the most?
@@captainplanet483 Look at how angry you are? all these sad little sayings you've made up
Three years after Brexit, the British are still waiting for the benefits.
Greetings from the Netherlands
@New Moon what craZy guy, ahahahahahah
I wish I was both Dutch. I love your country and that you can cycle everywhere.
@New Moon The Yanks won't sign any free trade agreement with the Brits. Are you punishing them? Why? And if you think that the EU is solely Germany and France as you claim then you are just a typical ignorant Yank. It's like saying California and New York are the US of A.
@New Moon what? Lol what are you talking about mate? As an American you don't even understand how democracy works, nevermind the EU and Brexit consequences. But please explain your sentence
@New Moon Thank you for once again demonstrating that Americans are the dumbest people on the planet.
The most heartbreaking thing about this whole episode is how utterly predictable it was. All of this mess was predicted. All of it. Every lie was pointed out as a lie at the time. Every promise was predicted to be false. None of this is a surprise. It’s reassuring to see people turning around on this, but its way too little too late. People who voted for Brexit can rightly claim they were misled and lied to, but have to also accept that they closed their eyes and ears to the “remainers”; they didnt want to hear the truth, and placed their trust in KNOWN liars. What has been done to this country since 2016 will eventually be investigated in a formal commission and hopefully, people will go to jail.
People who continue to vote for charlatans and liars are not victims, but accomplices.
Hear hear!
The only problem is that alas for over 40 yrs no one was really promoting EU or explaining what it is to the Brits . EU has always been poor at promoting advertising it’s assets and other positive deeds and the Tory lies among others went freely hammering the so called EUSSR stuff and how bad it all was the the UK.
The same with the virus and tests, vaccination. Lies globally. The BBC should be on investigation list.
The first person to go to jail should be Daniel Hannan. He spouted more lies and bullshit then even Johnson and Gove
Freedom of movement was awesome, it was one of the best things that the UK citizens ever had, rights to your entire continent. Such a loss.
I’m British and have been dealing with the decision for the last 7 years and I still struggle to understand the attitudes of those that voted for it. It was always obvious that it would destroy the economy, the Brexiteers at the time seemed to understand that but felt ending free movement was worth it. I still don’t understand why you would want to live in a worse country just to reduce immigration but the fact that some of them seem surprised that the economy has struggled is baffling, it’s like they’re all primary school children that just make decisions for purely emotional reasons and don’t have the most basic understandings of the country they live in or the EU and the MASSIVE impact Brexit would have. It’s embarrassing but it feels at times that people in this country are very immature and really need to grow up.
@@ml8022 ask it
my guess:
- I heard endless that "sovereignty" (aka ending free movement) was worth being poorer
- also that remainers were lying and UK wouldn't be poorer
- some claimed "sovereignty" would mean 'Second Golden UK Age" (never mind there wasn't a first one for "UK")
- and too: EU will allow UK to cherry-pick the good bits bc EU "needs" UK so much "to survive"
- 'hull vs heath': lower income people knew/suspected that it would screw UK and welcomed it - "Gov has already screwed me so NOW you can see what it's like"
(meaning, some people didn't see a change from their current circumstance ... and thought it good if the whole country dragged down to understand how they lived)
I'm not agreeing with ANY of that. just repeating what I've read.
also, fwiw, "I didn't think it would pass, I just voted for it *_TO SEND A MESSAGE_* (to someone)"
number one google search in UK, morning after brexit vote: "what is the EU?"
as far as I can tell, they were voting with their lizard brain (except for the uber rich pushing this bc EU was about to out their hidey-holes)
oh, it´s easy to understand, once you think a society as being formed by classes where some classes can be conviced other class to do their bidding. lack of "class conscience" or something. like when you are a miserable employee that sucks to the boss.
U vastly underestimate how racist this country is...remember what brexiteers really want.. no more brown people!! (From europe lol )
Destroyed economy, what are you on about?
I am 26 and British and brexit has more or less ruined several job oppurtunities for me, made my relationship with my EU partner difficult, and has made my day-to-day living in an EU country incredibly stressful. When the brexit vote came out I deattached myself from the UK, but I am still living with the consequences of other people's short-sightedness to this day. What I lost was tremendous, and will scar my life forever. I am not a refugee fleeing violence and unrest, so I understand not everyone is completely sympathetic to people such as myself, but I am an immigrant who has had my open rights to life, love, and employment withdrawn without my consent
Well-articulated bro. Same here. Sad times :( I won't ever get over this to be honest. It feels like the same as when my Mum died. LIke, I knew it was true, but part of me was hoping "what if maybe she'll come back?"
I am soo happy for your struggles. You sound like a Russian wife complaining about her hubby dead in a ditch and complaint is about her not even receiving the promised pennies.
@@kurbads74 Um, what? I really don't understand your metaphor. But even if I did, what? I voted and wanted to remain...
Weird answer@@kurbads74
@@kurbads74sounds like.a silly troll that struggles with the long words.
When remain lost the vote, I desperately hoped that my fears around Brexit would be proven wrong. Unfortunately, it is far worse than I feared. No sympathy for those who voted leave and now regret it. The signs were there clear as day, and now we'll all suffer the consequences probably for decades to come.
how sad must you be to wish you were subjigated by a foreign power
@@kevinsullivan7831 much better to be subjugated by the leeches in Westminster 🙄
@@k-doggy1762 you are being eaten alive by illegal immigrant parasites
Doggy likes to be subjugated 😄
@@k-doggy1762 why would having two bosses be better than having one?
Play stupid games……win stupid prices!🤷♂️
Prizes*
@@DCTag tbh he isn't even wrong with the prices bit. cost of living is way too high for the average income in this economy
National front nigel and gbnews are running entirely on elderly white resentment and entitlement, there are no riots in Wales or Scotland because its a British nationalist problem
She really said with her whole chest “I’m so happy I lied to people about brexit and I’m still happy about it “
You may be happy of that! I - for one - remain pragmatically disappointed with the situation and decision! It's cost many vulnerable communities in Britain hugely. Setting things back by 47 years for those vulnerable communities. I could - theoretically say worse of what you have said! But for the consideration that it might not make much difference at all. Not for another quarter century, at least!
We won, every thing went amazingly well.
You lost, rekrain is a disaster.
@@richardgallagher4880 What apparently didn´t go amazingly well was your ability to spell.
She's happy because she collects a govt. salary no matter what happens.
@@AlfaGiuliaQV Indeed! And perhaps he is one of those who reside in the one part of the British Isles which believes that Brexit was still a good idea. Most now do not! I have some suspicion of this fellow.. I suspected that he could have been something else. To a degree. I still do. His poor spelling of something ' remain!' for instance. Demonstrates a possibility.. I can't explore why! A suspicion is not sufficient without co-oberative fact or proof! I only have a suspicion! It's a possibility but can go no further than that!
Truly impossible to not be embarrassed by it
If you voted yes then defo
@@SubwayLoyal How's those 'sunlit uplands'?
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This is what happens when you make the public vote on a decision which takes economists and policy analysts years to understand the consequences to.
"Divide and rule" Julius Caesar.
Stepping out of the European economic union, based on lies and xenophobic fearmongering was imbecilic, and those spreading the lies, hate have no accountability for the consequences thereof
They have study a lot to do this shit.
Totally agree the country is so much poorer it is so obvious that Brexit only works for the few and not the majority.
voting in general, shouldn't be for everyone. that's why Socrates's point of view about it got him executed. it should be for experts and people who wouldn't vote based on intuition or emotion.
@@AllinOne-wv1mp Or maybe our education system should be geared towards producing individuals capable of this, rather than mindless drones for the economy.
It's interesting that they interviewed a lot of older individuals. I am curious to hear how people under 40 feel about things, and what they hope for in the future (which is moreso their future than those interviewed in this segment).
I was born in 1962 a post war child. Like many other people of my generation we wondered how the German people were taken in by Hitler.
Now we know.
You're sadly mistaken
Very interesting thought. Thanks.
Politicians always blame others for their own mistakes. They never take responsibility. Never.
Was it the late Nigel Lawson rip who voted leave but lived in France and applied for French residency
It was not politicians who voted leave, it was people!
@@friedrichjunzt ye but who manipulated them? politicans and bigots...
@@minidreschi2 they could have easily educated themselfes about this topic but All they wanted to hear was "no Polish people here anymore! No 80 Mio Turks migrating to glorious UK!!!"
Cameron and Johnson should be charged with treason! .
It’s really amazing how, after all that has passed, people in the UK still think it’s only about them and what they want. And the rest of the world has to simply comply. Well, you’ll need to open your eyes; you might want to rejoin, but we don’t want you back in the EU. Not until you understand the concept of equal countries working together and that respect goes both ways. The Empire has gone, we are not colonies. Once you get off the high horse, come back and we can have a conversation based on mutual respect.
Well put, but pride is hard to break, especially when it's built in your identity. Looking back through history, total destruction (not annihilation) is how some civilizations came to humility.
Not wanting to be told what to do by a globalist cabal in Brussels is not the same as wanting to tell anyone else what to do.
Have fun with the cabal, they are all yours now.
British expat here. I think there is a good chance Great Britain / UK will split up: a united Ireland (already in the EU), Scotland (overwhelmingly wants to be in EU), England and Wales. These small countries will have about as much in common with the Great Britain Colonial Superpower of two centuries ago as modern Italy does with the Roman Empire. They will need to join the EU as much more junior and compliant partners to have any chance of prosperity. I think the British military and nuclear power as we know it today could well cease to exist, consigned to history within 20 years. The British military support of the Ukrainian fight for freedom is probably their last hurrah.
I am English, and unfortunately this is a side to the country I am embarrassed by. I think it was also fuelled by sensationalist media and certain political personalities playing into people's vulnerable economic situations for decades, baselessly putting blame on EU membership and external affairs for the problems in more deprived and segregated parts of the UK. Before Brexit, I didn't particularly mind saying I was English, but since then, I suppose I have become more aware of the problems of this identity. It will take a few generations maybe, for the delusion of being a 'global power' to become more diluted as a part of the identity
They followed the example of Trumpers. It;'s all about ME, everyone else can eff themselves.
If you believe pathological liars, you will allways end up getting shafted.
Covid hasn’t helped! But as someone who was about 6 months too young to vote, I know everyone in my year at school was wanting to stay. Definitely the youth getting mugged by the elderly.
Also the poor Scottish who’s majority vote was to remain.
Shame you don’t remember the time when Britain was independent of Europe.
@@geoffbirchall7552 When the UK was last independent from Europe it was known as the sick man of Europe it is quickly returning to that situation.
@@geoffbirchall7552 Oh, sweetie. You realize your inability to present a single way in which your mawkish nostalgia actually possessed any material benefits demonstrates both that you know you can't support your white-supremacist Brexiteer nonsense and that you're too cowardly to cop to your obvious lies?
The Scottish, whose vote not to pursue independence was also explicitly based on a promise from David Cameron and the Tories that the UK would not leave the EU.
@@geoffbirchall7552 Looke it up..Sick man of Europe
It's almost as if Boris was lying and the experts knew what they were talking about.
LOL remember Gove telling the morons that it was time to ignore "experts" - that's the first thing the far right come for - the intellectuals.
And yis wouldn't listen...
Democracy doesn’t work when the population is retarded and the leaders exploit it
STOPPING ANOTHER 5.7 MILLION EASTERN EUROPEANS FLOODING IN WE PAY 4 BILLION A YEAR IN BENEFITS 15 MILLION A YEAR KEEPING THEM IN PRISON & 970,000 BABIES BORN COSTING BILLIONS IMMIGRATION IS ONE WAY TRAFFIC UNDER 1 MILLION BRITISH IN ALL OF EUROPE
N Farage. People seem to forget he was a part of the gang of liars.
Well they believed Johnson, that paragon of honesty and truth 🤣🤣🤣
Stupidity knows no bounds.
I can't wait until the government puts forward legislation to get us out of EU laws so that we can be independent country and exploit international opportunities. I'm not sure after all these years why we're still tied to these EU laws that discourage investment in the UK. Having said that remainers were right, food prices did go through the roof after brexit particularly in France.
Don't be stupid - people understood the issue - they didn't want to be part of a federal Europe. We now know the big lie was 'project fear'. You don't think it's strange that the UK government leaflet stated _"We will not join the euro"_ and not a single pro-EU activist in the UK complained or argued the UK joining the euro would be a good idea? That's right! The single currency is a flagship mandatory policy of the EU - and not a single person in the UK said a word to the UK electorate about ever joining. Is this because they never wanted/planned to join - or because they are sneaky liars?
Nobody believes ANY MP's.
My uncle has complete faith in him, "Good old Boris, he'll get it done".
Many Europeans are also very happy about Brexit in the case of the constantly annoying and dissatisfied British complainers... the EU is now significantly stronger than before !
I hope future generations see Andrea Leadsom in this video. Her explanation of her support for Brexit reminds of Neville Chamberlain waving a piece of paper.
She doesnt have to care about the cost of living. And she probably will have no responsibility, as she will tell you in coming years. She will blame Bojo.
Chamberlain was desperately trying to avoid ravaging the country by going to war. Leadsom campaigned and voted to ravage the country by choice.
You can move to Ireland and enjoy the eussr
@@bbcisaids6727
I grew up in a communist country.
In what way is the EU communist?...
@@Dreyno Sorry David but I think you have Chamberlain wrong. He thought he could do a deal with the devil. And it didn't work.
How ordinary intelligent British citizens did not see the economic implications of Brexit is mind-blowing to me. Classic example of when democracy fails. Large swathes of people in most civilised nations do not always necessarily understand what is beneficial for them. Politicians prey on this ignorance for their own gain.
Roughly 72% of the eligible electorate voted, of which 51% voted leave. We left because 37% of the country are racist idiots and 28% couldn't be arsed to vote.
Stupidity and laziness is what caused this problem.
I think Ricky Gervais made a good point about why you shouldn't ask average people important questions.
Screw the economy. I couldn’t care less about woke multi billion pound companies. 👍🏻
@@mr.thegreat557Nobody cares what you think, boomer. More than 10 per cent of those who voted to leave are dead now, you know. Another five years, it'll be closer to 25 per cent.
@@mr.thegreat557The thing is the multi billions companies are doing just fine.
People need to be educated not just drive decisions based on pride and ego
I think a successful assasination attempt on Rupert Murdoch wouldn't hurt either. The amazing xenophobic output of that media mogul combined with the arrogant isolation of the country which was responsible for the planet's largest Empire were a truly toxic combination. Everyone was duped and now the many stooges stare at the desolate wasteland of the UK making the shocked Pikachu face and asking how this all could have possibly happened.
People need to be educated?? What's your surname sugar titz Mao?
... and racism and xenophobia. There are going to be millions of climate refugees... Including England when it gets flooded, it behoves you to be nicer to emigrants because you will be one soon.
@@toddnorman1343 ...'Todd the tinhat', oh my not the rising sea levels and all those beastly racists!! Next you'll be telling me some women have a penis...
Just like Ukraine?
After all the EU is pretty happy to have lost the UK, its like an annoying Karen who thought she can have special treatment is finally gone
Some speakers suggest that the cost of living crisis, ukraine and covid have all made brexit harder. But in this day and age, such crisis should be anticipated. And you know what really helps in dealing with any such crisis? Being part of a bigger group and supporting each other. Delegate some tasks to a higher entity and focus on your own problems on the ground...but oh well
nonU.K countries will have to wrest back their fate/destiny from their past erroneous decisions, to join it. Ireland and Spain are continuing to drive off of cliffs.
I agree: essentially, these idiots are saying that Brexit would have worked if only the world were different from what it actually is.
Covid and then Ukraine were convenient and lucky in a way, for the tories and leavers. They can't hide behind it because EU have had the same stresses and still thrive... Look at Ireland. We look like a third world country now, compared to Ireland.
@@ednawelthorpe5578
They've got the same inflation as us.
Caused by remain now you mention it.
We did anticipate ukř.
That's why any sane person voted brexit because we didn't want the same thing to happen here.
Did you?
Biggest self inflicted wound I’ve ever witnessed, people don’t understand when they have it good
You now can use patriotic imperial units, and no one will torture and kill you for it!!
*God shave the king!!!!!*
@@Buckets1000 All very true. The exit of Angela Merkel left a massive power vacuum which the UK should have easily filled. We should be looking at an EU dominated by the UK both economically and militarily right now. Instead, we've got a pathetically weak UK on the verge of further disintegration when Scotland takes independence. France has stepped in to fill the EU leadership role in the Western EU while Poland has taken the same role in the Eastern EU. Meanwhile, the UK is now labeled sick-man of Europe.
Cringe.
There half a million self inflicted wounds in ukr from deciding to be in the e.ů.
You would prefer that would you?
You clearly have no idea about what you are talking about.
@@richardgallagher4880 stfu you putinistic boy. Ukraine is fighting for its real independence, they're tired of having a russian boot on their necks, keeping them poor and controlling their corrupt politicians. they've suffered for 20 years after the fall of USSR and since the fleeing of Yushcenko, they're in a war with Russia. This war is the big test for the nation of Ukraine. They win, they truly get out of russian influence and they can join the EU family. If they fail, Russia will continue to control them and slowly but surely grind their territory.
Personally, I hope to see Ukraine, Moldova and Scotland in EU, Ireland whole; and England out.
As a remain voter, it’s often pointed out to me that the EU wasn’t perfect. It’s large, bureaucratic and unwieldy. I didn’t vote to remain because I thought the EU was a perfect institution. I don’t think there such a thing as a perfect institution. But I think being a part of the EU is a damn sight safer and more beneficial than being apart from it. So if you’re a leave voter and you’re going to point out all the deficiencies in the EU, that’s fine. I get it. It makes no difference to me that the EU has its faults. Still better to be in than out as far as I am concerned, and the current state of the U.K. economy vs the rest of Europe appears to validate my vote.
They shouldn't have dumped loads of eastern Europeans here.
@@chucky2316 and here was me thinking there was more to the average leaver voter than xenophobia…
@@Glasstable2011 except its not, why were we not asked. Don't you think it gets people's backs up
@@Glasstable2011 xenophobia ROFL 😂
@@chucky2316 I’m sure it gets people’s backs up. In the same way the Spanish are furious that some of their seaside resorts are now inundated with tangerine-coloured British pensioner expats who refuse to learn the language or eat the local cuisine. That’s how immigration and emigration work.
But don’t worry, the process of moving elsewhere in Europe to work or retire is now much more complicated so we’ll have to stay where we belong. On OUR island. That WE have a GOD GIVEN right to, and NOT those mucky mucky foreigners who WEREN’T BORN HERE and SHOULD JUST ALL LEAVE NOW. God save the King. amiright 👊
Skyrocketing prices, declining GDP, unemployed. And the customs issue is in chaos. The "leave" is showing all its damage. And in Scotland the push to return to Europe could start again
I'm not British. I do come to these kinds of videos regularly. Divided between laughing at you and feeling sorry for you all.
People are talking here that Brexit will still come good. They look like they're lying and act like people in abusive relationships who think it will all be better tomorrow!
That is an interesting (but disturbing) perspective that I never thought of. The one thing that stuck out to me in the video was all the discussion about how COVID may have changed the outcome of Brexit. It's the kind of thing that makes me want to roll my eyes into the back of my head and just leave them there. lol
Great analogy!
Do both. We deserve to be laughed at for allowing crooks and liars to convince us of the virtues of brexit. But I think pity is also in order, we fell for the con hook, line and sinker. Just after we began to find ourselves again we lost it and it's a damn shame
I agree with you. When you look at what's really happening (check out the Davos/WEF reporting) Brexit is just a cheap bone to get everyone distracted and fighting with each other. Such a small matter in contrast to the threat of a worldwide dystopian future. Still, I enjoy schooling Remoaners, though! 😄
If leaders beat their followers long enough their people begin to like the beating. Look at Russia.
I left the uk after 17 years and Brexit had a huge contribution in my decision making. And now I can clearly see that that was my best decision I ever made. Whilst in the EU , UK was somehow manageable and one could live there. After leaving the EU, it is a hostile peace of land. The EU should be grateful to Brits it has this headache ticked off. And this headache is called the UK.
I'm a Brit and I'm inclined to agree with you. Our country is a hostile place thanks to the morons who did this and I don't imagine it's going to get much better any time soon. The EU is much better off without us.
My only hope is that the next generation is able to reject the hatred, racism and ignorance of their parents and take the country forward again.
You're so deluded "it's a hostile land" what are you even talking about?
@@Adamsamsm Your Priti Patel, Your Suella Braverman are evil women. Two faced like whole british society never liking to confront anything as cowardness is encrypted in Your British identity. Those 2 hostile, 2 evil women daughters to immigrants now attacking migrants. Thank God the EU is imposing new measures on You wishing to travel to get pissed mainly in Spain.
Keep a candle in the window for Scotland which voted to stay in the EU but was overruled by the much larger electorate in England.
I left the 2015 a i I could see how it was going to go. I am happily living and an E.U country now best thing I could do am so glad I did as looking at the U.K. from outside now it is not recognizable as my country anymore.
Leadsom being made a Dame after what she and her party have done to the country is utterly disgraceful
*Ah, but she’s a high-priced political “madam.”*
Many pathetic disgraceful people are being made dames and lords. They are everywhere. Seems like a royal buyout to help preserve the crown.
i have studied in England and lived there for about 5 yrs; I would say i was always of the opinion that in general the British never liked continental europe or europeans, and as such I don't believe that they will ever change their view on other european countries; my impression has always been they they don't consider themselves as europeans, but equally they don't like americans or us; i dont know any other country in europe where locals have a nickname for every single european country; so they did well to go
It shows how they still follishly think they rule the world, by having all these nicknames for people who aren't them. The only thing about the UK leaving the EU I felt scamed out of was scottland not leaving. I would've been so happy to see britan fall this hard.
I’m sorry that has been your experience:( as a British person I have many friends from europe who I love and cherish, we aren’t all the same. Yet I must admit that xenophobia is alive and well in the U.K. 😑
Even if the UK wanted to rejoin it would have to convince Europe to accept… One thing is certain the UK will never regain the advantageous position it had when it left.
I think in maybe 10-20 years the EU will be ready to welcome the UK back, but we definitely won't be in a position to make any demands. Our economic position has declined dramatically, we're no longer the primary banking and trading hub we were and that's going to decline further in the years to come. By the time we're begging to be let back in the EU could demand all kinds of things and we'll be happy to oblige.
@@ct5625not entirely sure that we would ever apply to rejoin , nothing is certain in this world , I speak as someone who , all those years ago voted to join , and later voted to remain, I am at an age where I can , with hindsight remember many things that were forecast as certain but ultimately were turned upon their head . The doom merchants may , in fact be proved right , certainly in the short term , as I indicated nothing is certain , Britain along with its people has a long history of overcoming dire adversity, this may or may not be the case in this instance but with the passage of time who knows ? There are rumblings within the EU itself and absolutely nothing lasts forever not even that organisation , nothing is as constant as change that applies to the UK and the EU ,things may ,as has been said get steadily worse or by the same token improve , I would sincerely hope so but , unfortunately I more tha probably will not be around to witness it.
We don't want the UK back.
We don't want the UK back because we need to be united, we should make an example of them
Doesn’t need to WE LEFT GET OVER IT.
"I still have not learned one thing, so I am still passionate about doing the wrong thing and turning the UK into the sick man of Europe again!" Fixed that for you.
The uk has always been the sick man of Europe. No “again” about it
@@Felix-rising The situation had improved though while it was a member of the EU. Just look at how sick the UK now deals with its sewage which would not be possible under EU regulations - and also how much the UK's GDP lost through Brexit, not only a pound that is worth 20% less but also at least 4% less GDP which results in every Briton being 1000 pounds per year poorer, hence the increased taxation to somehow get a substitute for the lost tax revenue.
The real issue here is that any vote to rejoin is mute, simply because the EU would never have us back. The block is doing very well with a queue of countries eager to join, when we were in all we did was cause trouble, they are well rid of us.
100% true
Where there's a hope , there's a way. Britain will emerge stronger.
@@thunderstorm4074 we always have two WW's prove it, the third potential one? nah we need a rest! damn tiring having to jump in and save europe so often and lack of gratitude - is very astounding!!,maybe we should be the bad guys for once? oh wait.......our pirates did that......but we DID clean them up eventually - the only nation that could manage it. ah the nostalgia! that was before we became the soft touch we are today and pandered to everyone elses needs except our own peoples.
In fact, just remembering those last european Parliament sessions in Brussels with Farage and Widdecombe insulting EU mp's laughing and waving the Union Jack, is enough, not to mention all the moaning that went on for years...
@@jakewright4394 the sentence "maybe we should be the bad guys for once" pronounced by a Brit in 2023 is so epically ironic in a least 65 countries it deserves it's own John Oliver segment
For me being be in the EU gave me the opportunity to live and work in Italy and finally meet my future Swedish wife and be happily settled and living in Sweden these past 20yrs.
Personally it’s a shame that some have had this ability to travel and work taken away.
I left the U.K. thirty five years ago. I have lived and worked in several E.U. countries.
Now settled with a pension three times that of the U.K.
So sad this isn't open to the young people of the U.K.
That's what the EU wants, destruction of national borders and identity.
Yeh sadly us young people can’t have those benefits, it was taken away by old dumb people that voted to leave
@@hmalik5232yep then they’ll end up dying soon and you’re left with the mess to pick up. It’s not fair you should have to live with their decisions because they are the majority and left you in the shit.
@@hmalik5232work visas???
Well
NHS is still waiting for that £350m a week extra cash after the Brexit.
The NHS budget has risen by more than that since 2016
@@Bungle-UK Source: trust me bro
Remain said the uk economy would crash if we left that didn’t happen 😅
The NHS is Putin
@@bradleywilson5641 yeah, so have you seen the recent IMF report on how Britain is shrinking while all other European countries and even post-sanctions RUSSIA are predicting growth? Other counties: +1-4% UK: -0.5%
Let's not understate the benefits of Brexit: blue passports and more opportunities for the British at airports and ports to show how good they are at queuing.
🤣🤣🤣
Can you name another one?!
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 yeh it keeps more English in England
Interestingly enough, the Brits were allowe to have blue passports when they were still in the EU. It is not a requirement to have the purple-like colour, just a recommendation
By jingo sir I am a Englishman and I will completely throw away the economic chances of future generations for MY blue passport.Even though I can’t afford to travel anymore
"I thought it was a good idea back then, but I still think it is."
Translation: It was a shit idea and I'm too proud and stubborn to admit that I'm wrong.
I was a UK/EU citizen, against my will i had my EU citizenship taken away, this is somthing i can never forgive, and never will.
You may have had, an Irish grandparent, if so you're sorted...
this is why you don't leave such an important decision to a single referendum vote with a simple majority. It should have been at least a 60% requirement, or two referenda in two years or three years or something like that.
I agree with the 60% idea. Was a big move to decide on 2% at the time.
Until your side wins...
@@ianmarsden8568 its not about 'sides' its about constitutional change. Should not be changed ln the basis of 2%. Same in my view for Scottish Independence vote... Brexit, Scottish Independence etc should be 60% majority vote min.
The Brexit vote was NOT a binding referendum, it was advisory only. The conservatives turned it into the disaster it has become.
Exactly. The way politicians finesse people is so blatant and people don't see it. For me, from the outside, I always felt the british being posed a random quetsion (you wanna leave EU) when everything seemed well enough before was bizarre.
Not so bizarre with the rise of righ wing people like Farage etc though. These are the machinations of people like him and the people he works for.
The voters are all dead so we cant ask them.
As said by a Lord, "if people were stupid enought to believe that leaving the biggest market in the world was beneficial for the UK, they deserve their fate". I feel though so sorry for those who opposed leaving.
Leaving the worlds largest free trade market. What could possibly go wrong?
It was the other bits the democratic majority of the UK didn't like.
Who would have thought it could go wrong.?.Well you need to have a half brain and actually think for a moment to see it was going to be a complete mess..But never mind..As long as nasty tories made out of it and Putin got what he payed for that’s ok.?
@@themajesticmagnificent386 Nothing has gone wrong in terms of getting the hell out of that toxic, anti-democratic, unaccountable organisation.
What I love the most is the idiot Leavers always say "well we're at least in charge of our democratic process again!!" WRONG. The UK had signed up to so many EU regulations and laws that when we left, nearly all those laws and regulations just got moved over to the domestic statute books with very little parliamentary process. Why? Because A) to trade with the EU, we need to be compliant with those laws and B) we didn't have our own version of them. If you think the government had time to design, research and pass its own legislation on everything from international truck weights to salmonella testing standards for eggs - you are an idiot.
So no, we haven't even achieved democratic independence because when we left, all of those EU laws just because British laws almost overnight.
Our government is supposed to represent the people, not live above us in luxury using our money, while we struggle to pay our bills.
How have we let this happen? And why are we continuing to go along with it?
Its been like that forever, what time in history do you point to that it wasnt like that?
@@Chris-xl6pd I don’t disagree. It’s been this way for longer than my life. But what I said still stands..
@@WotsisFace
What you said still stand , and will stand still for ever and ever
@@WotsisFace I dont disagree with your sentiment, but, If its only sentiment then its no solution. Not saying I have one, just trying to point out the futility of it.
@@Chris-xl6pd I see your point. I’m just hoping someone has the answer.
Used to have a neighbour who later became quite a big Brexit/Leave campaigner. So what happened right after the result? He moved to USA for a nice cushy well paid job in politics. It amazes me how anyone could fall for these people's nonsense. Or trust a UK politician to somehow get the country out of this hole. They were either opportunists, liars or attention seekers who had no idea of the consequences, like these voters.
Why would anyone believe that in a world full of huge trading blocks that the UK would thrive on it's own ? A ridiculous decision by people who were incapable of thinking for themselves.
I'm not into British politics, but I will never forget the reaction of my English teacher at school, who was a Brit citizen. When we told him the results he started to curse like the last man on the Earth. He told us that polls were opened only in Britain, so several millions of voter were baned from voting as they were living outside Britain during campaing. Otherwise, the result would have been different.
He was so right.
Not true, my friends living in Cyprus voted to leave even though they had no intention of living in the UK again!
@@gaynorhead2325 your friends must be beyond stupid, then
@@Xune2000and of course most those votes disappeared in transit.
@@gaynorhead2325what were their motivations
The referendum should never have been given to the public to decide. Too complex for the public to understand the implications especially when the vote was overwhelmingly based on emotion and not what was right for this country.
Vince Cable was right…. a significant number of the electorate, of a certain age, who voted to leave did so in the spirit of nostalgia and nationalism, through rose-tinted glasses; for a time when ‘faces were white, passports Blue and the map was coloured imperial pink’.
Spoken like you’re the only person who knew they were idiots
Brexit was the most successful Russian operation.
A general election covers a much larger set of policy issues than a simple Leave/Remain vote. I guess you'll be cancelling elections next.
@@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704 Not really. The last one the same morons voted for a four word slogan and an 'oven ready' deal.
So does this mean we should stop having General Elections too because that's also complex? Or should we leave decisions like that to those in power who seem more concerned about lining their own pockets than enacting the result of the referendum?
Used to drive around Europe in a truck delivering or picking up goods You dont realise how much it has cost us with Bexit Until you see how much is imported into Britain and how much we depend on it as well
That is what happens when your vote is based on emotion rather than reality.
Emotional arguments do far better than rational ones, sadly.
emotion and fairytales are better than sociology.
And, looking back: Who, supported inclusion in the beginning? The U.K. joined in 1971. The French blocked your earlier application. Was your attitude always luke-warm?
@@markoshea6833 The joining referendum had a 67% yes vote
This is what happens when your vote is aimed at morons rather than people with more than one brain cell!
I think it was based on Stupidity , Bigotry and Jingoism
"It hasn't had an effect on my life, so I still think it's a good idea".
Right, everyone deduct one point in intelligence.
"I think there are opportunities"
Ok, where are they? 🙄
He's thinking about them
@@mrbearbear83 Yeah! Maybe in 50th years you get an answer. 😂
Thanks to Brexit, the EU is stronger than ever.
Countries saw what leaving the EU can result into and thus they truly appreciate the membership 👍
It’s pretty much impossible to put a positive spin on it. It was backed by the big wigs so they wouldn’t have to deal with the EU financial rules that were coming into play. Truth is ut was never a good idea but the real issue is just how hopeless the govt has been in handling the transition and kicking off from there. Makes me sad.
No. It was to weaken EU as a trading/tech bloc to reduce the threat against US dominance
I really thought the good old British bulldog spirit would’ve worked with our German cars,chinese electricals ,Indian food and Turkish kebab shops could’ve easily stood alone
It was a generational thing. The Americans lost their mind around the same time. It seems the baby boomer’s reluctance to accept their mortality turned into a thing.
😂😂😂😂
Entirely agree - no wonder Rees Mogg was Brexit Opportunities Minister, all the opportunities went to Hedge Funds, Tax-dodgers and Off-Shore-Bankers.
What? Losing your biggest trading partner was a bad idea? Who would’ve thought 😂
True, didn't see that one coming !
The protectionist nature of the European Union forced the UK to trade predominantly with EU member states, but the UK had a strong economy in previous centuries based mostly on trade around the world.
@@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704 Oh well that's probably why we had to join the EEC in the first place, because we were doing so well outside it.
@@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704 You call exploiting colonies during imperial times "trade" ?? Interesting !
Are you sure India is willing to supply the UK with cheap raw materials again and likes to be forced to buy the end products made in the UK off them still ??
And that the EU "forced" the UK to trade predominatly with them really really made me laugh ! You never heard the term VETO, have you ??
Leaving the EU was a collective act of suicide, predicated on lies. What's just as stomach churning is the Labour leadership being too scared to even consider opening debate on whether to consider rejoining. Just like the Tories..putting their party ahead of the country, when it's plainly obvious that Brexit has been an abject failure.
Hypothetically speaking, one could say that the Brexit is an example that individual greed and selfish behavior do not lead to success in the long run. By focusing on its own interests and turning away from the EU, the United Kingdom may have put its long-term economic and political stability at risk. In contrast, the EU has increased its effectiveness and improved its crisis management capabilities through cooperation and collaboration. This demonstrates that community-oriented actions and collaboration can be successful in the long run, while selfish actions and isolation can lead to difficulties in the long run.
I disagree. Greed, any examination of Brexit would see it was economic suicide. I think it was about racism, kick the foreigners out, no more street signs in Polish. To be fair they were lied to by Boris & co and Putin used his bots to interfere (pro brexit)
Most of the EU is in recession but U.K. is not. When we were in the EU we had a £93 billion deficit with them. U.K. was a good market for EU but EU was awful market for U.K. goods. U.K. is the only country that sells more outside the EU than inside. We had to give EU £16 billion to be in debt to them. Brexit was best choice
@@derektighe5131 Oh, I used to buy stuff for my photography from UK vendors, but now obviously no more.
UK inflation, as measured by the CPI, was 6.8% in the year to July, down from 7.9% in the year to June. This is the lowest rate of inflation since February 2022. UK inflation peaked at 11.1% in October 2022. EU inflation was 6.1% in July, down from 6.4% in June.
The Scottish National Party pointed the finger at Britain's exit from the EU.
“The UK’s stagnating economy has continued to slip further and further behind that of the EU’s, as a direct result of the damaging Brexit," said SNP's Economy spokesperson, Stewart Hosie MP.
"While EU nations have enjoyed a steady bounce-back from the pandemic, the UK’s economy has barely moved in four years, with the consequences being passed on to ordinary people."
Resolution Foundation economist said the ONS data showed the UK was suffering "weak export performance in key manufacturing sectors".
Exports to the EU fell by 6.8%, compared to a 2.1% drop with the rest of the world, she pointed out.
etc...
EU vs UK both have issues and I am glad that the UK is no longer in the way of getting our issues in the EU resolved. I persoanlly hop it stays that way. Good luck.
@@derektighe5131 oh and 4 months ago, when I wrote this the UK was in a worse place than it is now. Hope it works out for all of us in the end.
@@derektighe5131 lol good job man, I'm so happy for you
The truth is that Brexit was all about English Nationalism
Dear Brexitiers, remember the red bus with the slogan: "We send the EU £325 a week - let's fund our NHS instead!"
After 3 years, GB should have the best health system in the world, or?
Brexit means Brexit - have fun!
Ireland 🇮🇪 had the sense to remain part of the European Union despite every effort by the UK Government to isolate it from the EU.
@@SubwayLoyal No wonder you hate everyone: yer a feckin’ Gers supporter, ya fud!
One Ireland, United in the EU.
The majority of Irish are proud to be Europeans.
We here in the ROI were never part of the Brexit equation to begin with. The biggest concern for us was the damage Brexit would or could potentially do to the peace process in NI. Thanhkfully that seems to have held firm so far. Let's all hope that it continues to do so.
@@nigelmurphy6761 correct, but the name is just ‘Ireland’
It basically proves the entire project was based on some vague feeling that the UK was 'restrained' by Europe, even though the 2008 banking crisis / sovereign wealth crisis was the 'actual' cause of austerity. The entire political class was mad to then suggest Brexit when the country had few resources anyway and the overall effect would be to curtail a growth in exports as well as cause all sorts of long-term decline in the UK's status in other areas (education, medicine amongst others). Attributing the issues to 'circumstances' doesn't cut it, Given the UK is in recession and compared to the rest of Europe. and its economy hasn't recovered to pre-covid levels. Brexit has effectively made its problems systemic. The Brexit 'dream' more or less evaporated with Liz Truss, when the markets told the UK exactly how much freedom it had.
No mate austerity was a choice made by the Tories, it achieved precisely ZILCH, other than stagnating the economy further.
I completely agree with you, 3 hours ago Bloomberg reported Brexit's Lost Output Is Costing the UK £100 Billion a Year This is for the unicorn believers 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
Total tosh, austerity was not caused by the 2007/8 banking crash, austerity was an ideologically driven political decision taken by the Tory government to make ordinary working people pay for the Banking collapse caused by the greed and corruption of the Tory Banking elite.
@@marlecmarine5393 That's right and now the Casino is open again and we will pay the price of corrupt government again when it goes south.
Yes it was US sub prime mortgage lending that caused that crash but Labour got the blame. Tories got in only to kowtow to their American pals - who caused all this. People are thick though. 2016 has taught us that.
Thanks God , now we can stop hearing brita who blamed EU for their shortcomming.
We didn't want it in Northern Ireland. We share a land border with the EU. I doubt many people from mainland UK even considered how it would impact us.
Have they thought of a solution? It's one complex issue. I remember years ago in the news they were complaining but never heard if they came up with a not stupid idea
I'm convinced bojo never gave it a thought. As in, he completely forgot about Ireland. Sure of it.
@@MangoMonster2007 Northern Ireland is basically still part of the EU. That was the solution. Unionists are not happy about it.
Is it true that the powers that be, in England would not care if you reunited with the Republic. of Ireland? Not likely with all the sadness between but just an example of how Northern Ireland never factored in to the equation.
@@kevinbergin9971 I doubt the uk gov would want to lose more land. The situation there is so complex I don't want too offend either group as I don't know enough about it.
We have a small business in London, our products are partly made in the UK and partly made in Italy, and our main trade fair is in France. So it is a disaster now with a 20% extra tax on bringing things from Italy and importing stuff to France. If we add the cost to the price tag, no one wants our stuff any more.
You might be able to re-shore to Ireland and look into the prospect of the Irish Government giving you access to be grant aided to doing so, with a helping hand to your venture as they are very friendly to those who would set up and export from here, you might even be able to Grow your business as well, rather than struggling just to exist, in that brave new world of 'Post Brexit' Blighty. Worth checking out...
My English friends in England (all anti Brexit) have started emigrating and they are very well educated people working at the city in London . They do not especially have been impacted by the Brexit but as they can ‘ read ‘ leading economic indicators they know the whole country is going nowhere . And you know when thing are going to go bad when the crème de la crème starts to leave . It is an indicator that works everywhere .
Moving for work is the only way out now. Even then, it's based on a work permit only. Still no guarantees.
@@kinggeoffrey3801 True but with more chances to get one with skills and experiences .
I am literally studying a degree so that I can graduate and leave without worrying so much about work. The government has manufactured a skills export to the EU. They're detestable morons who can't take a hint!
I am embarrassed by the ignorance of the British people, it has made me more determined to move abroad, I cannot live with the lying Government and the selfish, lazy thinking british public any longer.
Your idea of creme de la creme probably isn't creme de la creme. Living and working in london is terrible. There is no need to emigrate to solve that problem.
It's no longer a question of whether Britain may rejoin the EU but a certainty that it won't be allowed to rejoin.
German government will take them back any time.
Nah. It will be allowed to return, but there will be no special treatment anymore.
They had a banger deal.
Now that will no longer be in the table and joining the euro will be required, like everyone else.
Also, guarantees that there won't be more flip flopping.
Nigel Farage should be brought to account.
You are right. However people should use their brains and not simply listen to populists like him..
He complains about hearing foreign languages being spoke in public, but his wife is German and his kids hold EU passports, duplicitous shyster.
Why should he be brought to account? He didn't force anyone to vote Leave.
@@zippymufo9765 He conned them with a pack of lies. Conmen should be jailed.
He's probably already secured his US Green-card.
I feel bad for young people that wouldn’t be able to study and live anywhere around EU. I myself had to come to study to the UK but with student visa from EU. This seems so wrong ever since we always had opened borders all across the EU and I was always happy to know, that UK was amongst those countries. Many people used to go for summer work exchange, learn languages but now it does not exist anymore😢.
The older generation in Britain really destroyed the future of young people with Brexit.
Ireland is more fun anyway
There were just too many people coming. Our population was growing by 300,000+ a year. Housing is a massive problem. It wasn't helped in some areas with job adverts written in Polish, and schools completely full with 50%+ non English speaking children. People got frustrated and kicked out the only way they could.
They wanted to get rid of Poles working in EU. Now they pay for it. It works both ways.
@@emilydavison2053 Oh please stop your bullshit
I'm Dutch and I speak a lot of UK people, I'm still to find one that says Brexit was a good idea...
get there head out of the clouds so much for the stiff upper lip will not keep food on the table
Now live with the consequences.
There is one supremely positive aspect of Brexit - that people in the European Union realised why we have it. Itexit? Dexit? Frexit? Nexit? No, those voices are silent now.
the populists are still there, always ready to surf on people's frustrations, and a big proportion of voters are not fit for thinking and voting ... Populists are selling simplistic solutions to complex problems, so the people can understand with their guts but not with their brain.
Who would've thought leaving the biggest trading block would be bad. Our biggest single trading partner. Our nearest neighbours
Yes and we'll never be able to trade with them again 😪
Donald Trump himself personally promised to Nigel Farage that he would give a better deal to the UK after the Brexit.
Just wait till next American election.
Keep crying Tom. With brains like yours you will go far in life, 😂
@@DilbertWhitehead We can still trade with them, it's just a huge pain in the arse with red tape and tarrifs
@@DilbertWhitehead Never trade or never trade as profitably as did? Tell me how's it going?
Today Bloomberg stated "Brexit is costing the UK economy £100 billion a year ($124 billion), with the effects spanning everything from business investment to the ability of companies to hire workers."
Do you think Brexit Leaders should apologize now to us?