I have 650 enduro bike with minions front and rear and 29 hard tail with tan wall wtb vigilante front and and trail boss rear. And difference is night and day!
I kind of found a solution to that. I have an enduro bike but I also commute to work. My commuter is a 29er hardtail with wheels that fit between bikes. Not carbon I know and not even quality rims but it is fun to swap and feel the difference. My first experience was very positive as the bike felt all light and nimble and in generally easier to ride playfully.
Overtime I managed this by buying a really cheap alloy set used from someone (The wheels didn't even match brands) and eventually sold the bike I used them on at a discount and kept the carbon rims. Got a new bike and did exactly what you said. Swapped wheels for XC riding versus bike park. If you have a bike that comes with carbon wheels you can probably get a cheap alloy set to put DH tires on for like $300 bucks. Add some rotors and you've got two different bikes for an additional $400 bucks.
Makes sense to me. The industry has been constantly moving toward more forgiving, more confidence inspiring equipment. Cross-country remains fastest, it just puts people out of their comfort zone.
what about going uphill in the mud then? XCs in the summer, Enduros in the winter for me value confidence and safety over some seconds during the muddy season
Gunna try that now autumn's hit the uk, I'm happy on a soft compound xc through summer, even through gnarl, just gage your limits. 100%knew he'd be faster on the loop
I like the continental mountain king tyres, they grip super well on the hard packed trails I ride and they still roll pretty fast too. I personally don't like having super grippy dh/enduro tires, it just feels sluggish on regular trails or places that arent super steep
Man this guy can ride like a turbo charged world rally car through the bush! Wasn't expecting such a great controlled test either. Amazing channel thanks for getting me back into riding again
Why don't you test crash and break bones yourself, then share results with us. Preferably while having a family to feed..... Very shortsided suggestion :-/ Even when Blake acts like he's crashing for the camera, he's doing slow speed, very controlled, mainly willing clunky-looking dismounts, just to make sure he doesn't dislocate something, or stab himself with a bike component. Even if they'd get full body armour sponsor, full speed corner crashing would still be very risky.
I swapped out my Brand new Maxis assegai front and DHR2 in the rear. On my Giant reign e For brand new Maxis Rekon front and rear. Running 26 and 28 psi Ran 3.5 seconds faster on a downhill and 1.5 seconds faster on climb. defiantly had the bike on the edge but Time is time and the watch don't lie.
It's not so much which is faster. Speed Is about the RIDER more than anything. The difference is how much EFFORT you have to put forth to achieve the same speed. A nobby tired bike can go as fast as a bike fitted with slicks. But if you have two equally fit and strong riders side by side. The one with the knobby tires. Will have to put more effort in to match the speed of the rider with the slicks.
I use the high roller2 and rekon as 2.8s on my plus bike, it works brilliant spring till autumn, not so great in winter when it gets slimy. Not sure if there's any fast rolling plus combo that works for the slop?
I run Vittoria Barzos on a Niner Jet9 (short travel 29er) and love them. I switched from Maxxis Ardents and the bike came alive being a bit lighter and more forgiving on longer rides.
So last video, the cross country bike did not finish because it had a flat with xc tires. Now you are telling me that Xc tires are faster... Anyway, good video!
Comment right to the point! I 've posted to the last video that barzzos (and mezzcals) need extra pressure to withstand rocky downhill sections. So, there was the flat and a "DNF" for the XC bike to the downhill time test. I've ridden fast rocky sections all the summer with mezzcals on my hardtail and never had a flat. I just had to run them at 30-33 psi and that's all.
When I got back into mountain biking a few years ago, I went from about a 2.0 width 26" tubed xc/trailish style tire on my late 90's Cannondale to the further extreme on my new bike of a 27.5" 2.8 width trail/enduro set of tires w/heavy casing. I have sense backed off from that to find an equilibrium of about 2.4-2.6. For instance, on my (now preferred) 29ers, I have 2.6 Maxxis Icons on my full suss and for my hardtail, I run WTB Vigilante and Ranger at 2.5 and 2.4 widths. Even this autumn, w/leaves covering the trail, I haven't really been too short on grip in either case. My preference lately has been the lighter weight, more xc specific Icons but I won't say that I mind the added grip of trail tires with a slight speed penalty- especially if riding trails that I am not familiar with. My son runs Maxxis Rekons and they may be the best of both worlds although for me, I'd likely opt for a Rekon Race at the rear wheel. I guess that I put more of a premium on rolling resistance than grip. Tire width for me is as much about comfort as it is performance.
I go with grip. I'm out to have fun and get some exercise. More grip means I'm less likely to wreck, which could put me out for weeks, and I get more exercise. What's to dislike?
Currently running a set of Maxxis Dissectors, which has got tons more grip than the previous bikes Maxxis Crossmark and Ardent combo. The new combo feels slow on tarmac etc.... (also 29 vs 26) , but I'll tell you, the extra grip I'm getting on the downhills is crazy. I haven't yet timed the runs coz the new setup actually requires me to get better first🤦🏻♂️
@@richardgg2889 Theres 4 compounds in the ADDIX range..I use the hardest and are still using the same ones for 18 months,around 6000KM's...On and off road..Their not fond of wet roots though ..Ha !!
Vittoria e-Mazza 2.6 front & rear on my eMTB. Don't like the Maxxis MaxxTerra tyres I,ve tried, maybe try some MaxxGrip versions at some point. Live in Norway, lots of wet rocks, roots, dirt etc. Have had some Schwalbes in Soft which I also liked.
There is barely zero friction between the ground and tyre. The energy losses from a tyre come from carcass deformation. The only meaningful friction you get in a tyre is when it is scrubbing through a corner. Maybe do a video on tyre hysteresis and what actually makes a tyre fast or slow than anecdotal data
You were less able to brake with the XC tyres, so presumably hit some sections faster than on the Enduro tyres. Does that mean you could have hit the same sections at XC tyres speeds using the Enduro tyre, and have been even faster on the Enduro?
Assegai front, Dissector rear. So god tier grip up front, and a fast rolling enduro tire out back, and they are designed to work as a combo so it works amazingly well. No matter how steep and loose trail conditions get, I can always control my line with the Assegai. No separate summer/winter combos in Colorado, we do not ride wet trails as our trail surfaces will be damaged and severely rutted if you ride it wet, it's not like the PNW or UK where the soil drains well.
Much rather 'under tyre' much faster riding right on the raggidy edge. Be surprised how much grip an XC (especially 29er) has and notably faster on any dry course. Its conditions more than anything dictating heavier tyre choice
I mostly ride XC/Trail on my Specialized Stumpjumper. Some chunk but more flow. Last year I switched from the OEM 2.35 Butcher/Purgatory combo to a Maxxis 2.4 DHR2/Dissector combo. I definitely noticed that they were slower but had much better grip. Almost too much grip from the DHR2 on my front for what I ride. While I did try to ride more aggressively on turns I'm going back to my Butcher/Purgatory combo this year because I want more speed. When those wear out I might try putting the Dissector in front with a Rekon in the back.
I’ve usually got a grippy trail tire up front and an xc tire on the back of my Scale RC, unless I know the course well and what I can get away with, I’d rather be a hair slower and not get injured… especially since I don’t have half of the skills this dude has.
I just finished my first build I'm not going to say what it is other than it's a hardtail, 27/5 large, I accidentally got a set of dirty dans not realizing how soft or heavy they are, I'm in the area where we have a lot of flat, I also commute on this bike, once I found that commuting more down the center knobs to about half-life, this tire became extremely fast even though it's heavy, so what I'm saying is that I have created a fast-rolling high grip tire😮, the shorter the center knobs get the wider they get squishing less and giving more support, my side knobs are still massive, I got the best of both worlds 😁
People put way too much stock into which tread pattern they have. Rubber compound, tpi, casing and air pressure all add up to way more difference than what shape your knobs are. The tread pattern definitely makes the most difference when it comes to different surface conditions, but when you're riding different conditions all the time, just pick one and roll with it!
Most people I see are these days are over-biked and over-tired. Consider taking a skills class and work on cornering, your fun quotient will go way up.
Same compo here on similar bike! Also have set of Barzo’s on other wheels that I use during summer on easy trails. Now it is wet & muddy everywhere so Agarro/Martello is great
I run Conti Raceking Racesport on both my wheels with full pressure and they really feel great on the street and have way better grip than my old kenda tyres. (On my Dirtjumper)
Wicked Will is a very good trail tire . I bought a used orbea alma which had fitted an enduro tire up front and an xc tire back. I swapped for maxxis ikon(xc) front and rear and it solely transformed the bike to a rocket in dry conditions and the uphill
specialised ground control. all year round. faster rolling than your enduro minions for example but grip more than your rekons. need to replace my front but will run t5 in the rear, t7 up front
@Neil THX for your great video. I‘ve got. ohne question, when you change your wheels, do you also change the brakepads? Please go on, I get more and more fun with biking when watching GMBN. At the moment I am using Schwalbe Racing Ray and Ralph also on the trails.
Its what I've been running and works good in the desert. I needed a rear tire fast but no Wild enduro rears were in stock so I mounted up a front. Should be interesting. Guessing a little slower up hill and smooth sections but since we haven't had any real rain in months we've got loose, over loose, over hard pack conditions that is should bite into. Or it'll suck and I'll be buying another tire too soon.
Went from older, very worn Hans dampf and ardent to very new, wider and more aggressive magic Mary and ardent combo. It has made a huge difference to my rides - for the better. I am cornering much faster with way more confidence and no notable change in rolling speed. But, I must point out that the previous set of tires were virtually unusable - rear was slick and the front had all the knobs peeling off... So cornering was more of a suggestion than an action. 😬. But damn those magic Mary's have grip!
I went from a air of wtb rangers to minions, i have some big verdict judge duo for the real winter. Changing to the minions made such a difference for unofficial trails the feeling of confidence going around a damp corner is something else
Tires can really surprise those, that watch too much YT or read too much tire reviews(guilty as charged). The push is really towards the grippiest and bomb proof stuff. I have mostly flat area around my home, and at some point decided to run very light and low thread XC tires, firstly on my XC bike FOR WINTER, cause I'd ride more on tarmac and avoid too much mud-woods are mostly dry, snowy Poland is a history. Then I got first fully, did the same for the rear tire for all year, except mountain trips. So the tires were CST Beater(XC bike, fr&rear) Vee tire trax AM(trail fully, rear) Both those tires were amazing, bringing smiles of disbelief for what I was able to climb with them even on slippery top layer mud, for good cornering grip and for rear wheel drifts under power in the corners with slightest bank, even sandy ones. Just soo good and joyfull. And I did ride much better tires too, so I know what a tacky, high quality tire is capable of(for my capabilities at least) "Use the gear to match what you ride most" is yet again proving to be very good advice.
I think most people are over tyred, I run barzo's and keep up with my mates with their enduro tyres no problems, most people aren't skilled enough to push their tyres to the limit, so that chunky enduro tyre is just sapping more of their energy.
Just ride my DHF and DHR2 everywhere. I don’t race but I like to push it. At 48 I’m not looking to crash, so I’ll take grip and confidence to push it a bit harder with a grippier tire over a slightly faster tire that I’m riding right on the edge of disaster with. Plus, I like the burliness of it because when I go to the mountains with lots of rocks they hold up way better.
I wonder how this test would fare on, say, your XC bike instead of your enduro bike. Enduro bikes' suspension is meant to handle heavier hits and is thus over-spec for the XC tires, but on an XC bike it would really be worth seeing where the tradeoff between the two becomes clear.
tire burp, the bang of a super expensive carbon rim breaking, bones breaking in a crash, bike frame cracking in a crash, the "psh,psh,psh,psh,psh" of a fresh puncture.
On my 160mm 29ner enduro, I run a maxxis assigai up front and a continental Der Kaiser rear. Yes, it's mis-matching, but they work really well together in my local rock and mud based trails
High rollers/minion dhf Personally don't think to much about tyres as iam no where near the level Neil is on so there fine....I bet when it comes to putting rubber on your 2 ton 100mph + car you put budget on 😅
Interesting how pros run such high tire pressure, I suppose at the speed they run, hitting the rim is a real problem. Summer is the fantastic Maxxis Assegai EXO up front and a DHR2 rear, although Assegai rear works very well too. Rolling resistance is slow of course, but once you feel how they roll over onto the edge and overall grip on steep stuff, no going back. Often we'll put 40psi in for the 600m climbs and air down at the top 17psi/23psi for me but Assegai DH I can run like 15psi F/R. Winter is 45Nrth Wratchilds 4.6 studded on the fat bike, expensive but one of the few fat bike tires that have predictable edges to roll into while cornering. Cool video!
Because I am more into XCM, I tend to choose to lessen rolling resistance. Continental X-Kings give me a good balance. We find a lot of sandy bits here, so I also opt for higher volume tyres that help me float over them.
Minion DHF front and Aggressor rear - best setup ever!! / or / Cross Kings, wider front - it's flying you hassle free and sounds like a wind too, pedalling power cut by half
Why I ride grippier tires- did a jump with a super short, sketch landing. I’d looked at it and evaluated it and decided to send it. Well, landed right at the end and had to stop like now. Afterwards my buddy was laughing cause I landed and stopped simultaneously before crashing into the tree. That’s why I ride DHR2 on the rear.
It depends on what purpose If you want Xc tires for day trips and Enduro tires for DownhyllI ride my Ebik Cube StereoTM Vittotia Mezcal tnt xc trail 29x2.6 . it's great I've never had defects and I save a lot of energy and I even drive a lot without help I don't ride Dovnhyll
Just bought a new XC/Bikepacking bike, Marin Pine Mountain, and it is spec'd with 29x2.6 Vee Flow Snap rubber. I'm not a "Shredder" by any definition, but these seem like a great all-rounder if not a bit aggressive for hard pack paths.
Quite happy with the wtb xc tyres and mostly use them all year long and have been tempted to get a pair 4c tyre that Vittoria have but unsure of price for 29er and also the tan sidewalls would look strange , p.s great video.
Stuck trying to find my new tire combo. Don't want squared of maxxis like everyone else seems to run. I like the rounded volume. I cannot decide!! Hans d's on now 27.5. But going to 29" for more speed skinnier tire in rear.
Im from the Philippines. I'm riding a 29er bike. Now because of this video i just ordered a CST Jack rabbit for my rear(fast rolling smaller tire knobs) and a CST Patrol for front(medium tire knobs for grip). My current set up is an XC 29er bike. Both of those tires I ordered are 29x2.25. Cost me $60 and its already skinwall ( good for my eyes lol). Im on a tight budget so that all I can buy. Thanks for this video! Very convincing and informative. 👍😁
Would you rather run a tyre with more grip or less rolling resistance? Let us know in the comments!
More grip for sure
More grip I love a nice chunky tyre
I have 650 enduro bike with minions front and rear and 29 hard tail with tan wall wtb vigilante front and and trail boss rear.
And difference is night and day!
@@Pay2winps they look more bad ass as well🤣
@deanracer they sure do too hahaha
Wouldn’t it be cool to have an extra carbon wheelset just for putting on different tyres😂😂🤦♂️
The joys of the job hah
@Anas Jawad Or sponsor.. 😂
@@MTBbible alright sponsor me bro
I kind of found a solution to that. I have an enduro bike but I also commute to work. My commuter is a 29er hardtail with wheels that fit between bikes. Not carbon I know and not even quality rims but it is fun to swap and feel the difference. My first experience was very positive as the bike felt all light and nimble and in generally easier to ride playfully.
Overtime I managed this by buying a really cheap alloy set used from someone (The wheels didn't even match brands) and eventually sold the bike I used them on at a discount and kept the carbon rims. Got a new bike and did exactly what you said. Swapped wheels for XC riding versus bike park. If you have a bike that comes with carbon wheels you can probably get a cheap alloy set to put DH tires on for like $300 bucks. Add some rotors and you've got two different bikes for an additional $400 bucks.
Can we talk about how nice this video is edited?
I was thinking the same thing: While Neil is great to watch on camera, the editing really stands out in a positive way!
How so? It doesn't even feature a graphical representation of the numbers.
@@Dark__Thoughts Music flow, well-placed J and L cut b-roll, great pacing throughout
Amen to that.
agreed, good video with awesome skill form Neil
Makes sense to me. The industry has been constantly moving toward more forgiving, more confidence inspiring equipment. Cross-country remains fastest, it just puts people out of their comfort zone.
Big and grippy every time for me. I'll happily sacrifice a few seconds for more fun.
Definitely prefer Fast Rolling Tyres
Washed out with Holy Rollers...Went and bought Minon DHF's....Best decision ever!!
Minons for the win.
Bought them as well for front, very good tire
For me I have a holy roller on the front but I also have to ride to the trails so I need low rolling restaince
but Holy Rollers are street tires, of course you'll wash out into next week
@@antoanangelov5672 actually I think I have a maxxis high roller 2 on the front
In front downhill tire in, rear xc tire. Enough grip and sooo fast!
I've got a vittoria morsa in front and a maxxis aspen in the back. I like it, but I wish I knew how shallow the Aspen was
what about going uphill in the mud then?
XCs in the summer, Enduros in the winter for me
value confidence and safety over some seconds during the muddy season
100%
Gunna try that now autumn's hit the uk, I'm happy on a soft compound xc through summer, even through gnarl, just gage your limits. 100%knew he'd be faster on the loop
I like the continental mountain king tyres, they grip super well on the hard packed trails I ride and they still roll pretty fast too. I personally don't like having super grippy dh/enduro tires, it just feels sluggish on regular trails or places that arent super steep
But the sound, the sound of that tacky compound on the trail, the next day after rain.....droool
But really totally agree with you
Man this guy can ride like a turbo charged world rally car through the bush! Wasn't expecting such a great controlled test either. Amazing channel thanks for getting me back into riding again
Well, Neil has the skills to ride less grippy tires. Most of us need that extra grip to even stay on track! ;-)
please do a test comparing how hard you can take a turn with an off road tyre, and a semi slick touring tyre, riding on gravel and mud etc
I feel way more comfy cornering off road than on-road with my knobbly tires. It's a good suggestion for an episode!
Great suggestion!
well that would require testing till tester crashes
Why don't you test crash and break bones yourself, then share results with us. Preferably while having a family to feed..... Very shortsided suggestion :-/ Even when Blake acts like he's crashing for the camera, he's doing slow speed, very controlled, mainly willing clunky-looking dismounts, just to make sure he doesn't dislocate something, or stab himself with a bike component. Even if they'd get full body armour sponsor, full speed corner crashing would still be very risky.
SCHWALBE
Front: Nobby Nic | Supertrail Soft
Rear: Nobby Nic | Supertrail Speedgrip
Tires should be business up front, party in the back.
I swapped out my Brand new Maxis assegai front and DHR2 in the rear.
On my Giant reign e
For brand new Maxis Rekon front and rear.
Running 26 and 28 psi
Ran 3.5 seconds faster on a downhill and 1.5 seconds faster on climb.
defiantly had the bike on the edge but
Time is time and the watch don't lie.
It's not so much which is faster. Speed Is about the RIDER more than anything. The difference is how much EFFORT you have to put forth to achieve the same speed. A nobby tired bike can go as fast as a bike fitted with slicks. But if you have two equally fit and strong riders side by side. The one with the knobby tires. Will have to put more effort in to match the speed of the rider with the slicks.
Maxxis Disector front, Rekon rear. Fast and grippy, playful on rear
This is next combo I'm trying!
I use the high roller2 and rekon as 2.8s on my plus bike, it works brilliant spring till autumn, not so great in winter when it gets slimy. Not sure if there's any fast rolling plus combo that works for the slop?
I run Vittoria Barzos on a Niner Jet9 (short travel 29er) and love them. I switched from Maxxis Ardents and the bike came alive being a bit lighter and more forgiving on longer rides.
Front: vittoria MOTA
Rear: vittoria MEZCAL
29" XC Hardtail
hellz yeah!
I am just debating this setup, Are you riding these all year?
Front:mazza and rear Martello. It’s so fast and grippy
So last video, the cross country bike did not finish because it had a flat with xc tires.
Now you are telling me that Xc tires are faster...
Anyway, good video!
Comment right to the point! I 've posted to the last video that barzzos (and mezzcals) need extra pressure to withstand rocky downhill sections. So, there was the flat and a "DNF" for the XC bike to the downhill time test. I've ridden fast rocky sections all the summer with mezzcals on my hardtail and never had a flat. I just had to run them at 30-33 psi and that's all.
Just goes to show tire choice isn't black and white!
When I got back into mountain biking a few years ago, I went from about a 2.0 width 26" tubed xc/trailish style tire on my late 90's Cannondale to the further extreme on my new bike of a 27.5" 2.8 width trail/enduro set of tires w/heavy casing. I have sense backed off from that to find an equilibrium of about 2.4-2.6. For instance, on my (now preferred) 29ers, I have 2.6 Maxxis Icons on my full suss and for my hardtail, I run WTB Vigilante and Ranger at 2.5 and 2.4 widths. Even this autumn, w/leaves covering the trail, I haven't really been too short on grip in either case.
My preference lately has been the lighter weight, more xc specific Icons but I won't say that I mind the added grip of trail tires with a slight speed penalty- especially if riding trails that I am not familiar with. My son runs Maxxis Rekons and they may be the best of both worlds although for me, I'd likely opt for a Rekon Race at the rear wheel.
I guess that I put more of a premium on rolling resistance than grip. Tire width for me is as much about comfort as it is performance.
Maxxis Minion DHR front and Aggressor rear on my Canyon Spectral 😁
The same on my giant. Good shit!
Same! Came this way from the shop 😊
I go with grip. I'm out to have fun and get some exercise. More grip means I'm less likely to wreck, which could put me out for weeks, and I get more exercise. What's to dislike?
Loving the forekaster maxx terra front and forekaster dual compound rear. Surprisingly Fast and surprisingly grippy.
Currently running a set of Maxxis Dissectors, which has got tons more grip than the previous bikes Maxxis Crossmark and Ardent combo. The new combo feels slow on tarmac etc.... (also 29 vs 26) , but I'll tell you, the extra grip I'm getting on the downhills is crazy.
I haven't yet timed the runs coz the new setup actually requires me to get better first🤦🏻♂️
Hans Damf all year round for me,as I use my one bike for everything...!!
Thinking about buying them on my trail hardtail too. Can you even go for a longer road ride with them? Have you ever done it? How many kms?
I was thinking of them as a compromise between X-King and Kaiser, would love to hear some opinions too.
@@richardgg2889 Theres 4 compounds in the ADDIX range..I use the hardest and are still using the same ones for 18 months,around 6000KM's...On and off road..Their not fond of wet roots though ..Ha !!
Of course the XC tires were faster. Tan sidewalls are always faster ;).
I run a Maxxis Minion DHF II in front and a Maxxis Rekon in back.
Awesome, for an amateur i like the grips tires because the skill not helping too much :)
Vittoria e-Mazza 2.6 front & rear on my eMTB.
Don't like the Maxxis MaxxTerra tyres I,ve tried, maybe try some MaxxGrip versions at some point.
Live in Norway, lots of wet rocks, roots, dirt etc. Have had some Schwalbes in Soft which I also liked.
There is barely zero friction between the ground and tyre. The energy losses from a tyre come from carcass deformation. The only meaningful friction you get in a tyre is when it is scrubbing through a corner. Maybe do a video on tyre hysteresis and what actually makes a tyre fast or slow than anecdotal data
That's total rubbish. Of course there is not "zero friction" otherwise there would be zero grip...........
You were less able to brake with the XC tyres, so presumably hit some sections faster than on the Enduro tyres.
Does that mean you could have hit the same sections at XC tyres speeds using the Enduro tyre, and have been even faster on the Enduro?
On my XC hardtail I used Hans Dampf on front and Nobby Nic rear. These tyres have good balance between grip and rolling resistance.
Love ur vids ❤️
Always have good tips 🤟🚲💨🥵
Assegai front, Dissector rear. So god tier grip up front, and a fast rolling enduro tire out back, and they are designed to work as a combo so it works amazingly well. No matter how steep and loose trail conditions get, I can always control my line with the Assegai. No separate summer/winter combos in Colorado, we do not ride wet trails as our trail surfaces will be damaged and severely rutted if you ride it wet, it's not like the PNW or UK where the soil drains well.
Soil drains well in the UK?! LOL! Mate, my local trails are clay! they're still sodden and slippy af in September from the start of spring!
I run Maxis Minions DH on my bike, i would prefer a grippy tire because it gives you more confidence downhill. thanks for the video
magic mary front, hans dampf rear. 29er and 2,35 both, on 30 mm rims
Much rather 'under tyre' much faster riding right on the raggidy edge. Be surprised how much grip an XC (especially 29er) has and notably faster on any dry course. Its conditions more than anything dictating heavier tyre choice
I mostly ride XC/Trail on my Specialized Stumpjumper. Some chunk but more flow. Last year I switched from the OEM 2.35 Butcher/Purgatory combo to a Maxxis 2.4 DHR2/Dissector combo. I definitely noticed that they were slower but had much better grip. Almost too much grip from the DHR2 on my front for what I ride. While I did try to ride more aggressively on turns I'm going back to my Butcher/Purgatory combo this year because I want more speed. When those wear out I might try putting the Dissector in front with a Rekon in the back.
I love the Barzo/Mezcal combo for faster trails especially when dry.
I’ve usually got a grippy trail tire up front and an xc tire on the back of my Scale RC, unless I know the course well and what I can get away with, I’d rather be a hair slower and not get injured… especially since I don’t have half of the skills this dude has.
I just finished my first build I'm not going to say what it is other than it's a hardtail, 27/5 large, I accidentally got a set of dirty dans not realizing how soft or heavy they are, I'm in the area where we have a lot of flat, I also commute on this bike, once I found that commuting more down the center knobs to about half-life, this tire became extremely fast even though it's heavy, so what I'm saying is that I have created a fast-rolling high grip tire😮, the shorter the center knobs get the wider they get squishing less and giving more support, my side knobs are still massive, I got the best of both worlds 😁
People put way too much stock into which tread pattern they have. Rubber compound, tpi, casing and air pressure all add up to way more difference than what shape your knobs are. The tread pattern definitely makes the most difference when it comes to different surface conditions, but when you're riding different conditions all the time, just pick one and roll with it!
Most people I see are these days are over-biked and over-tired. Consider taking a skills class and work on cornering, your fun quotient will go way up.
Running Vittoria Agarro rear / Martello front 22/21 psi on short travel FS trail bike. Gets up everything, gets down everything. Great set-up.
awesome combo right there!
Same compo here on similar bike! Also have set of Barzo’s on other wheels that I use during summer on easy trails. Now it is wet & muddy everywhere so Agarro/Martello is great
I run Conti Raceking Racesport on both my wheels with full pressure and they really feel great on the street and have way better grip than my old kenda tyres. (On my Dirtjumper)
They grip in loose trails?
video idea.... Cross country bike with enduro tires vs enduro bike with cc tires? maybe then vs a trail bike with trail tires?
Wicked Will is a very good trail tire . I bought a used orbea alma which had fitted an enduro tire up front and an xc tire back. I swapped for maxxis ikon(xc) front and rear and it solely transformed the bike to a rocket in dry conditions and the uphill
specialised ground control. all year round. faster rolling than your enduro minions for example but grip more than your rekons. need to replace my front but will run t5 in the rear, t7 up front
@Neil THX for your great video. I‘ve got. ohne question, when you change your wheels, do you also change the brakepads? Please go on, I get more and more fun with biking when watching GMBN. At the moment I am using Schwalbe Racing Ray and Ralph also on the trails.
Michelin Wild Enduro tyres for me
Its what I've been running and works good in the desert. I needed a rear tire fast but no Wild enduro rears were in stock so I mounted up a front. Should be interesting. Guessing a little slower up hill and smooth sections but since we haven't had any real rain in months we've got loose, over loose, over hard pack conditions that is should bite into. Or it'll suck and I'll be buying another tire too soon.
I really wanted to know all the songs on this video. Just couldn’t find them in the description 😔
Is this a man's bike or a boy's bike. My friend is 6'4". Also what is the frame size
Onza Porcupine 2.4's on my 5010 v3. Seem spot on for UK trails most of the year.
Im guna bang some 27inchers on mine with fast tyres for long rides
ROCKET RONs are my choice atm.
Schwalbe Rocket Rons are very clean 👌
Front and rear? I was looking at getting some and wasn't sure to run it front or back
Oh and by the way love the content very educational I don't think I could have done what I did without UA-cam😮
Vittoria Mazza for me all round. ua-cam.com/video/HNQl181lYlQ/v-deo.html
Went from older, very worn Hans dampf and ardent to very new, wider and more aggressive magic Mary and ardent combo. It has made a huge difference to my rides - for the better. I am cornering much faster with way more confidence and no notable change in rolling speed. But, I must point out that the previous set of tires were virtually unusable - rear was slick and the front had all the knobs peeling off... So cornering was more of a suggestion than an action. 😬. But damn those magic Mary's have grip!
I went from a air of wtb rangers to minions, i have some big verdict judge duo for the real winter. Changing to the minions made such a difference for unofficial trails the feeling of confidence going around a damp corner is something else
Rory Farrell what were the minions like on the official trails though?
Tires can really surprise those, that watch too much YT or read too much tire reviews(guilty as charged). The push is really towards the grippiest and bomb proof stuff. I have mostly flat area around my home, and at some point decided to run very light and low thread XC tires, firstly on my XC bike FOR WINTER, cause I'd ride more on tarmac and avoid too much mud-woods are mostly dry, snowy Poland is a history. Then I got first fully, did the same for the rear tire for all year, except mountain trips. So the tires were CST Beater(XC bike, fr&rear) Vee tire trax AM(trail fully, rear) Both those tires were amazing, bringing smiles of disbelief for what I was able to climb with them even on slippery top layer mud, for good cornering grip and for rear wheel drifts under power in the corners with slightest bank, even sandy ones. Just soo good and joyfull. And I did ride much better tires too, so I know what a tacky, high quality tire is capable of(for my capabilities at least)
"Use the gear to match what you ride most" is yet again proving to be very good advice.
I think most people are over tyred, I run barzo's and keep up with my mates with their enduro tyres no problems, most people aren't skilled enough to push their tyres to the limit, so that chunky enduro tyre is just sapping more of their energy.
Wagwaan!
Big up Yaself,on dem glasses
Respek
I actually understood that haha.
Just ride my DHF and DHR2 everywhere. I don’t race but I like to push it. At 48 I’m not looking to crash, so I’ll take grip and confidence to push it a bit harder with a grippier tire over a slightly faster tire that I’m riding right on the edge of disaster with. Plus, I like the burliness of it because when I go to the mountains with lots of rocks they hold up way better.
Yup, the do it all combo. There is a reason why it's the most popular combo around.
I run Conti Trail Kings on my Enduro hard tail and I love them! I'll switch to Conti Der Kaiser's for next year's race season 👍🏽
Thanks for the great vids you guys do👍
Schwalbe thunder burt fastest xc tire
This video was exactly what I needed!😀
Love the videos! More of of trailie tire. Any suggestions would be helpful!
I run Schwalbe Racing Ralph TLS in the back and Racing Ray in the front TLS
grip+ confidence! no grip= no confidence.. confidence equals speed!
Should do the test with Agarros trail tires and show what happen
Question ... should the rider's weight influence tire selection? Does a lighter rider need less chunky tires?
Good question, a lighter rider needs less grip to brake that’s for sure.
Yes, lighter riders can usually get away with a lighter casing. Depending on their riding style!
I wonder how this test would fare on, say, your XC bike instead of your enduro bike. Enduro bikes' suspension is meant to handle heavier hits and is thus over-spec for the XC tires, but on an XC bike it would really be worth seeing where the tradeoff between the two becomes clear.
Good idea!
Low rolling resistance tyres are for wimps who ride slow downhill
Love this tips off videos thanks for the help
I experienced the weight difference to be a big game changer in these comparrisons
So admin, what is your recommendation??
great now i see this after doing a 20 mile ride on a trail bike with 2.5in minions
Can you do a video about the top 5 worst sounds of moutainbiking? For example a chainslap, the fork bottoming out etc.
tire burp, the bang of a super expensive carbon rim breaking, bones breaking in a crash, bike frame cracking in a crash, the "psh,psh,psh,psh,psh" of a fresh puncture.
On my 160mm 29ner enduro, I run a maxxis assigai up front and a continental Der Kaiser rear. Yes, it's mis-matching, but they work really well together in my local rock and mud based trails
Assegai in mud is very bad...
High rollers/minion dhf Personally don't think to much about tyres as iam no where near the level Neil is on so there fine....I bet when it comes to putting rubber on your 2 ton 100mph + car you put budget on 😅
Interesting how pros run such high tire pressure, I suppose at the speed they run, hitting the rim is a real problem. Summer is the fantastic Maxxis Assegai EXO up front and a DHR2 rear, although Assegai rear works very well too. Rolling resistance is slow of course, but once you feel how they roll over onto the edge and overall grip on steep stuff, no going back. Often we'll put 40psi in for the 600m climbs and air down at the top 17psi/23psi for me but Assegai DH I can run like 15psi F/R. Winter is 45Nrth Wratchilds 4.6 studded on the fat bike, expensive but one of the few fat bike tires that have predictable edges to roll into while cornering. Cool video!
What is the best exercise for flabby inner thighs?
i goin on semi slik in rear the best tyre 😂😂😂
Because I am more into XCM, I tend to choose to lessen rolling resistance. Continental X-Kings give me a good balance. We find a lot of sandy bits here, so I also opt for higher volume tyres that help me float over them.
A. E. Dumit I went from Continentals to Vitoria Barzo 2.2, a big difference for me.
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"Over-tyre," another new phrase, nice!
Minion DHF front and Aggressor rear - best setup ever!! / or / Cross Kings, wider front - it's flying you hassle free and sounds like a wind too, pedalling power cut by half
conti der baron front and back. all year round
If you only have one bike, XC has always been the way to go, the trick is finding the perfect balance between grip and speed... Choose wisely.
Why I ride grippier tires- did a jump with a super short, sketch landing. I’d looked at it and evaluated it and decided to send it. Well, landed right at the end and had to stop like now. Afterwards my buddy was laughing cause I landed and stopped simultaneously before crashing into the tree. That’s why I ride DHR2 on the rear.
It depends on what purpose If you want Xc tires for day trips and Enduro tires for DownhyllI ride my Ebik Cube StereoTM Vittotia Mezcal tnt xc trail 29x2.6 . it's great I've never had defects and I save a lot of energy and I even drive a lot without help I don't ride Dovnhyll
Just bought a new XC/Bikepacking bike, Marin Pine Mountain, and it is spec'd with 29x2.6 Vee Flow Snap rubber. I'm not a "Shredder" by any definition, but these seem like a great all-rounder if not a bit aggressive for hard pack paths.
I want a bike sooooo bad
Small block eight xc tires
good video - odd choice of music in the downhill test
Dhr2 front aggressor in the rear
Quite happy with the wtb xc tyres and mostly use them all year long and have been tempted to get a pair 4c tyre that Vittoria have but unsure of price for 29er and also the tan sidewalls would look strange , p.s great video.
they do make grey walled ones
Stuck trying to find my new tire combo. Don't want squared of maxxis like everyone else seems to run. I like the rounded volume. I cannot decide!! Hans d's on now 27.5. But going to 29" for more speed skinnier tire in rear.
Im from the Philippines. I'm riding a 29er bike. Now because of this video i just ordered a CST Jack rabbit for my rear(fast rolling smaller tire knobs) and a CST Patrol for front(medium tire knobs for grip). My current set up is an XC 29er bike. Both of those tires I ordered are 29x2.25. Cost me $60 and its already skinwall ( good for my eyes lol). Im on a tight budget so that all I can buy. Thanks for this video! Very convincing and informative. 👍😁
I prefer the tires with metal spikes.
OMG!! THE NEW MEGA LOOKS SICK!!!