Your Tires Could Be Costing You Minutes. Tire Rolling Resistance with Josh Poertner

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2022
  • What tire and tire pressure you choose can have a huge impact on your speed. In this video I sit down with Josh Poertner of Silca to discuss how to determine the optimal tire pressure, what makes a tire fast or slow, and whether or not tire inserts increase rolling resistance.
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  • @DylanJohnsonCycling
    @DylanJohnsonCycling  2 роки тому +16

    If you are looking to take your training to the next level then consider one of my online science based training plans available here: www.trainingpeaks.com/coach/dylanjohnsontraining#trainingplans

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 Рік тому +1

      If wider tires have lower rolling resistance and assuming this does not apply to bicycle tires only, then that means putting wider tires in cars can actually improve efficiency?

    • @mjgb8692
      @mjgb8692 11 місяців тому

      Oooooooooooooooo

    • @mjgb8692
      @mjgb8692 11 місяців тому

      @@sepg5084 oooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopoooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopp

    • @pgn666
      @pgn666 3 місяці тому

      @@sepg5084 as it was said in the video, there is a limit in both directions. As far as i know, car tyres are already very very wide as the are optimised for grip, not for rolling efficiency. Look at the electric car tyres where efficiency (= range) is critical, the are much thinner :)

  • @DylanJohnsonCycling
    @DylanJohnsonCycling  2 роки тому +309

    Let me know if you liked this style of video and if I should include more guests in the future. There is a lot more from this conversation that I plan on releasing.
    Find your optimal tire pressure with the Silca Professional Tire Pressure Calculator:
    silca.cc/pages/sppc-form
    Find out which tires are faster or slower with BicycleRollingResistance.com:
    www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/

    • @jayjager7864
      @jayjager7864 2 роки тому +3

      Great content. Thanks. I am going out to lower my psi. lol

    • @thomasjackson4702
      @thomasjackson4702 2 роки тому

      Great information and insight into tire/tube air pressures. Very interesting and educational. Thanks for this excellent material...

    • @JosephDowski
      @JosephDowski 2 роки тому +2

      Hi Dylan, I very much enjoyed this style of video. I was hoping Josh/you would get into discussing the pros/cons of various tread types & tire manufacturers. I've been on nothing but Rene Herse tires for years -> Barlow Pass 38mm slicks which actually measure 43mm on my FSE 27mm internal width wheels... However, I've had my eye on some Vittoria tires as well. Thanks again for the great content!!

    • @JasonDBike
      @JasonDBike 2 роки тому +3

      Your normal videos are better.

    • @brian_simmons_
      @brian_simmons_ 2 роки тому +2

      Bro you left me hanging! I wanna hear the second part

  • @joeygodiska4404
    @joeygodiska4404 2 роки тому +188

    This is great. I love hearing people who know what they're talking about address issues that we usually don't have any good data on

    • @Swampster70
      @Swampster70 2 роки тому +3

      There's lots of good data out there and has been for the last couple of decades. Guys like Tom Anhalt have been testing tires for the longest time...

  • @TheAverageChannel
    @TheAverageChannel 2 роки тому +9

    Awesome video! Dylan you lead the way with science based cycling content! Really an eye opener when it comes to tires and pressure.

  • @derekkuhl
    @derekkuhl 2 роки тому +9

    Love love love this content. This channel is all about getting faster in a practical data based way. Give us more!

  • @mlegrand
    @mlegrand 2 роки тому +2

    I'm a big fan of Josh Poertner! Thanks for having him on the show! 🙌🏻

  • @alexpurcell238
    @alexpurcell238 2 роки тому +5

    This is a must podcast ! Can’t wait for the rest of this conversation.
    Definitely think you doing a podcast is the way forward !!

  • @chbrosz
    @chbrosz 2 роки тому +6

    So glad you asked about inserts. Was thinking just that when he was explaining hysteresis 👍🏼 super interesting info, thanks for sharing!

  • @paulvanderheyden7373
    @paulvanderheyden7373 2 роки тому +4

    Explanations were very understandable and made sense. This content and others that you have shown have helped shift my perspective. That's been very helpful and have provided for a more enjoyable experience on and off the road. Thanks.

  • @McMurdoStation
    @McMurdoStation 2 роки тому +7

    This style of video is a nice change of pace from the regular "what do the studies say" videos. I like both styles.

  • @Richard-ro7yz
    @Richard-ro7yz 2 роки тому +3

    Dylan, Really good video. Your training videos are the best but introducing other topics/styles such as this is really interesting. Great to learn from experts.

  • @alexfthenakis6846
    @alexfthenakis6846 2 роки тому +12

    Yes, please do more in this style! And definitely let us hear the immediate follow-on from this one. I'm on Tubolight in two different wheelsets per your recommendation and I'm convinced they (insterts in general rather than tubolight specifically) are the most underrated tech in gravel/cx at the moment. It was really fascinating to hear more of the science behind how and why they work and what sets different types apart from one another!

  • @ernestonuevo9074
    @ernestonuevo9074 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video and technical info. Indeed a different approach to the common questions many of us have. Thanks Dylan for your incredible helpful series of videos and bringing more science to this sport. Kudos !!!!!!

  • @chasepalpatine170
    @chasepalpatine170 2 роки тому +8

    Super interesting discussion. I felt like we could have kept going with the topic. I think it’s nice you’ve brought in industry experts and pioneers to discuss a subject. Would love to see more. Maybe you have podcasts in your future?

  • @stephen_101
    @stephen_101 2 роки тому +30

    This was so useful. Used the linked calculator and found I was about 10 psi too high. Let the excess air out and sure enough the bike feels much better and no noticeable change in speed over the last 3 weeks. Thanks Dylan + Josh 😃

  • @TheDionysiac
    @TheDionysiac 2 роки тому +2

    Damn, that was just straight up excellent. So robustly and concretely communicated.

  • @chrislatchem1854
    @chrislatchem1854 2 роки тому +2

    I like the discussion. Remember years ago, seeing a set of roll down tests of different tires and pressures, and a 'quick and dirty' correlation between how easy it was to deflect the UNINFLATED tire on say the sales rack and the rolling resistance; the easier to deflect, the easier to roll. Goes along with the hysteresis losses examined in the vid. Not foolproof and lots of qualifications but workable.

  • @dcasandman
    @dcasandman 2 роки тому +2

    Glad you asked insert question. I’ve been curious

  • @riyadhkhamis1335
    @riyadhkhamis1335 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Dylan your my go to guy for everything cycling racing related, your very specific in you videos and all the stuff is 100% related to my cycling,, keep it up, don’t change a thing, your by far the most informative

  • @michaelrogers9809
    @michaelrogers9809 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent! Your guest was very knowledgable and articulate

  • @MichaelSchneiderTexas
    @MichaelSchneiderTexas 2 роки тому

    Good Stuff, I just bought one of these Vittoria inserts to try on the gravel setup here soon. So glad to hear he gave some real world info on it.

  • @colduncan1063
    @colduncan1063 2 роки тому

    Yes please release more of this conversation. The insight offered is great and I lost track of time listening to it.

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 2 роки тому +1

    Yes,more like this please Dylan.

  • @jamieokane989
    @jamieokane989 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely outstanding video; your contributor Josh was excellent and informative - the perfect mix of technology, application and real-world knowledge.

  • @JarobJOrtiz
    @JarobJOrtiz 2 роки тому

    This was awesome. I really learned a lot of things from this discussion that I don't really hear anywhere else. Thanks for sharing. And I'm definitely going to check out that podcast.

  • @pastorbillvaughan1506
    @pastorbillvaughan1506 2 роки тому

    Great format. Great content. Always nice to vary things up and let someone else say the same thing you would say, but in their own way. Thanks!

  • @mediocrecyclist
    @mediocrecyclist 2 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed this. So many interviewers love to jump in and take the show. But this was an interesting dude and you kept the convo moving forward. Loved it.

  • @nyerunner2915
    @nyerunner2915 2 роки тому +1

    This was the excellent, please keep providing this type of content. Thanks!

  • @jorgmischke5839
    @jorgmischke5839 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video. I enjoy that you vary the style of your videos. The scientific-paper ones are nice, but interviews and alternative approaches to topics really spice up your channel. I like it. Also: Great topic here

  • @mateagoston8145
    @mateagoston8145 2 роки тому +1

    I definitely would love to see more of this kind of videos!

  • @andrewkearney3395
    @andrewkearney3395 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Great guest and information. Format is good and only adds to the content you provide!

  • @Anteater1234567
    @Anteater1234567 2 роки тому +8

    Needs an interviewer who knows what he's talking about. Let Backwards Hat Dylan take the next one.
    Seriously though, great video!

  • @richardmarzec9136
    @richardmarzec9136 2 роки тому +3

    Great interview. Can't wait to see more. I'd be interested in knowing the difference in tire thread patterns on different surfaces like gravel . Can't find that data anywhere so I plan on doing tests like you did.

  • @kylehall4063
    @kylehall4063 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome video with a lot of good info, looking forward to more

  • @moreaupi
    @moreaupi 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Dylan for sharing. Quite fascinating. We were debating this issue recently in our cycling club. I shared your video with our members. We may all be faster next weekend LOL

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 2 роки тому +61

    Josh is amazing and definitely knows all the details and has all the experience working with cycling teams and testing products. I buy Silca products because of his insight.

    • @LS1conehead
      @LS1conehead Рік тому +3

      I've been buying Silca products LONG LONG before Josh took over (I have an orange Silca Pista floor pump, and an ancient Silca Impero frame pump from over 52 YEARS AGO, when I first started racing on tubulars, both still fully functional!!).
      But yeah, this man most definitely knows his subject matter, and then some!
      (He might even be able to change my old school, died in the wool

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 2 роки тому

    That was GREAT ...I want to hear the rest of that interview. Please share the balance ! it's really good information and very understandable, also matches some real life experiences and answers many questions !

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles 2 роки тому +3

    Interesting format. I‘d love to see more, especially on the MTB side. I plan to race XCM again this years after a long break and on a 5 or more hour race a few watts saved make a difference.

  • @tommyleung1774
    @tommyleung1774 2 роки тому +2

    awesome video with a lot of insights, keep them coming!

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 2 роки тому

    This was amazing. Very much appreciated an additional expert to cover such a topic.

  • @gobikeyourself
    @gobikeyourself 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video Dylan! Thx for the insights!

  • @parisneto
    @parisneto 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing content ! Please bring more guests to widen the view on cycling. Nailed !

  • @SchmitzJeanNoel
    @SchmitzJeanNoel 9 місяців тому

    I'm really happy that I found your channel ! The content is super interesting !

  • @AB-fh9zh
    @AB-fh9zh 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid. Look forward to the rest of that conversation!

  • @steveharris5526
    @steveharris5526 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. As someone obsessed with gravel tires, this was very insightful.

  • @FrankieD777
    @FrankieD777 2 роки тому +1

    Great Video…!! Lots of really good info.. I’m so glad you got into the tire insert stuff..! 👍🏼

  • @zakkane2814
    @zakkane2814 2 роки тому +28

    Very interesting! As a downhill/enduro bro, I actively look for a tyre with high hysterisis to keep grip on trails. Michelin tyres are a great example; very low durometer, very slow rebound. Those characteristics keep the tyre from feeling bouncy or "pingy" when riding through fast, chunky sections.

  • @rowanRobaggs
    @rowanRobaggs 2 роки тому +1

    Soooo good. Thanks Dylan!

  • @dan5657
    @dan5657 2 роки тому +1

    Dylan - loved this- seems like you've been a proponent of tough tires and flat protection in the past. It'll be interesting to see where this leads. I love big tires and low pressures .

  • @ttvance9206
    @ttvance9206 2 роки тому +1

    This was fantastic. More please.

  • @darrengarvie8832
    @darrengarvie8832 2 роки тому +2

    That was very interesting Dylan excellent job.

  • @berattaner7370
    @berattaner7370 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. The knowledge about the tires really helped me.

  • @edhill8568
    @edhill8568 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely enjoyed this style of video and came away with some good takeaways.

  • @tminard33
    @tminard33 2 роки тому

    Great video. What s sharp guy. Thank you for the high quality content. The insert discussion was especially informative.

  • @patrickbranch8024
    @patrickbranch8024 2 роки тому +1

    Great content and info. Really good to know I’ve been heading in the right (lower) pressure direction, especially on my crappy Tucson roads…impedance is stupid here!

  • @ChristerJohansson
    @ChristerJohansson 2 роки тому +1

    Super, more of these, please!

  • @mattkretchmar6374
    @mattkretchmar6374 2 роки тому +1

    You make the best stuff ... thanks and keep it coming!

  • @chrislarosaacupuncture7783
    @chrislarosaacupuncture7783 2 роки тому

    Thank you for enlightening me on these technical aspects!

  • @ewanmackenzie6777
    @ewanmackenzie6777 2 роки тому +1

    Yes Dylan, more of this kind if info would be great, good one Bro.

  • @marcfarrelly5944
    @marcfarrelly5944 2 роки тому +1

    This was super interesting, love a few more like this

  • @jeffreyreed6056
    @jeffreyreed6056 2 роки тому

    This was fantastic! I also have the Vittoria inserts for 28 tires and this was good to know.

  • @burtonblume973
    @burtonblume973 2 роки тому

    Loved hearing Josh talk tires!

  • @EscuShow
    @EscuShow 2 роки тому

    Very captivating topic, explained in a way that can be easily understood. I really enjoyed it, thanks!

  • @alexwarden7458
    @alexwarden7458 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! It was really interesting, would like to see more of this type.

  • @capskibuttinski
    @capskibuttinski 2 роки тому +1

    great job! I'm about to test the Vittoria next time I replace my tires. Thanks Dylan and Josh!

  • @kylekurfees9430
    @kylekurfees9430 2 роки тому

    Killer video. The stuff on inserts was awesome. I hope a future video delves further into the specifics of gravel inserts!

  • @obikedog
    @obikedog 2 роки тому

    I'm so glad you asked about the inserts. (I was not surprised you did though!) I don't think I've ever heard authoritative, objective information on them before.

  • @matt.eggleton
    @matt.eggleton 2 роки тому +73

    Right on! We ALL have left countless watts on the course because of this. I found the insert discussion especially valuable! A deeper dive on this would be great! 👊🏻💥

    • @DEAR7340
      @DEAR7340 2 роки тому +6

      I was drawn to tire inserts (Vittoria Airliner) for a 28mm road bike rim. I don't compete, but I was looking for added confidence that my tubeless setup would not leave me stranded in a rural area - - where I live. At the time I was running Continental GP 5k (TL), and they were notoriously hard to acquire, and even harder to mount. The Airliner just made it impossible for me.
      I never tried the insert with the Pirellis that I used to replace the GP5K's, but these are much easier to mount. In the end, with this new ease of installation, I have abandoned the inserts for the road bike, in favor of carrying a few patches, a boot, and an innter tube.

  • @samuels2551
    @samuels2551 2 роки тому

    This was great. I listened to the entire session. Please share the rest of it.

  • @TommySaucierPlourde0
    @TommySaucierPlourde0 2 роки тому +1

    so insightful, really interesting how you approch theory vs pratice. great content

  • @jeffreycohen8511
    @jeffreycohen8511 2 роки тому +1

    great video, looking forward to more

  • @namaroli
    @namaroli 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video! Great to hear an expert talking tech

  • @njm3211
    @njm3211 2 роки тому

    Your videos are always informative. Thanks for posting.

  • @bikernaut1
    @bikernaut1 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Thank you. Helped me a lot.

  • @angelag5708
    @angelag5708 2 роки тому

    this is so cool and I love how technical it is

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic content!!

  • @DonMillerWNCInspections
    @DonMillerWNCInspections 2 роки тому

    Excellent - this new format is thumbs up!

  • @noiseismylife
    @noiseismylife 2 роки тому

    That was incredibly helpful! Thank you so much for this.

  • @richdanesi
    @richdanesi 2 роки тому

    Great questions Dylan and great information. Thanks

  • @randallsmith7885
    @randallsmith7885 2 роки тому

    Your video helped me to understand the 'why' behind the what better than others have. I knew that a 'more supple' sidewall helped reduce resistance. Now I have a better sense for why. That's cool and thank you.

  • @rosssanelli8852
    @rosssanelli8852 2 роки тому

    Brillant video. A lot of very interesting discussion providing much food for thought with the next time I need to either make a tyre purchase or go out for a road or gravel ride

  • @shakinwakin35
    @shakinwakin35 2 роки тому

    Great content! Love the nitty-gritty details and conversation with an expert

  • @alextheape90
    @alextheape90 10 місяців тому

    So you are confirming something I've been observing for a while but never really checked deeply.
    I've been thinking about this loss of energy when going with high pressure on road with loose gravels

  • @codypate9045
    @codypate9045 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating would love to hear more about tire inserts.

  • @MarcoBovo
    @MarcoBovo 2 роки тому +1

    Really interesting! I definitely want to hear more about it.

  • @relentlessraceteam3276
    @relentlessraceteam3276 2 роки тому

    Great interview and knowledge... thanks Dylan

  • @markhagen7777
    @markhagen7777 2 роки тому +1

    You’ll be a great curator interviewer of this type of content it’s a great complement to your other work

  • @timurhant469
    @timurhant469 2 роки тому

    Well done Dylan! Super episode!

  • @endatheworld
    @endatheworld 2 роки тому +1

    Great content, Dylan. Thanks 👍

  • @valiantabello
    @valiantabello 2 роки тому

    This was awesome, he was talking to us and not "at" us, very clear and super interesting

  • @ericparham2705
    @ericparham2705 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Post up the entire conversation. I would listen to the whole thing!

  • @Johnpvb
    @Johnpvb 2 роки тому

    Loved the info and helpful links

  • @bobnelson2828
    @bobnelson2828 2 роки тому

    Great video. Comprehensive and well presented.

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard 2 роки тому

    This guy is awesome. Just straight shooting without any garbage P/R words.

  • @donadams5094
    @donadams5094 2 роки тому +1

    Loved it. Smart and engaging, and I leaned quite a bit.

  • @matthewrepucci3564
    @matthewrepucci3564 2 роки тому

    Very helpful as always, thanks for sharing!

  • @TechSucht
    @TechSucht 2 роки тому

    Excellent, having two people talking makes it more entertaining. Very informative!

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 2 роки тому

    This kind of detail will save a lot of tears and guess work. Great stuff👍

  • @nochancecw
    @nochancecw 2 роки тому

    Unreal stuff. Way too much info that I have been looking at, from the silica wax vs one I'm using, to the vittoria foam inserts added resistance. That man is a wealth of info.

  • @dangurtler7177
    @dangurtler7177 2 роки тому +71

    I remember when Vredestein sold road tires with their advertisement that you can pump them up to 150 psi for decreased rolling resistance. It is interesting how things have changed.

    • @Robert-mn8gc
      @Robert-mn8gc Рік тому +2

      Track Riders 150 to 200 psi
      I always Ride @ 120 - 125 psi Clinchers Specialized Training Tyres

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 Рік тому +6

      @@Robert-mn8gc too much

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Robert-mn8gcwell, Dygert just won the pursuit at worlds running tubeless 25mm tires that were probably under 90psi

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 8 місяців тому +1

      @@veganpottertheveganuh...no. 150+ psi more likely

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 8 місяців тому +2

      @lunam7249 no, the beads would blow on the tires they used at 150psi sitting still. No way could they handle the force of the banks on the track