You saved me so much time as I had been restoring old backups to new SD cards to get at old kits I had lost. Instead of the 1-kit load feature that only lets you copy a kit that is in the roland/kits folder, the copy menu on TD-27 allows you to get kits from any backup bank on any SD card. Very powerful!!! Why Roland never connected it in the documentation is unfortunate for many that have never seen this video. Thanks!
Newbie here, Is it true that it is not possible to completely delete one of the factory preset kits? I don’t see a function where I can just go, …I don’t want factory kit 10 and then just delete it. Am I correct in this? Thank you!
I have the TD 27 module. Is there a way to take just the rim of my floor tom and dedicate it to a BT1 as a cowbell through all kits? I know I need a splitter but I was curious about how to do it in the module.
Hi, given that I use the same kit setting on my Roland TM 6 Pro via triggers on my acoustic kit, I'm buying a Roland snare, which will use the 6 input. However, during gigs, the program sound might vary on thd Roland snare but the kit would remain the same. Therefore, can the preset kit on my roland tm 6 pro be copied over to the user kit on the same roland tm 6 pro, so I can select say 4 identical user kits with different instrument options on just my Roland snare. That way I know e.g. kit one has say timbale setting, kit 2 has tom setting, kit 4 had timp setting etc
Hi. I had to check what the copy menu is like on the TM-6 Pro but yes, it looks like that should work. I imagine that any kit can be copied into any slot like other Roland modules, so duplicating it a few times then just editing one pad should be very simple.
Hey. Unfortunately not, no. Despite the modules using the same "sound engine," the actual instruments and settings on each module are different. This means that any kits you make will only be compatible with the module it was made on.
Unfortunately not, no! The sound set and parameters are all different. The best you'd be able to do is record a one shot sample of a TD-17 instrument and import that into the TD-27, but it wouldn't be the same. When I create kits for each Roland module, even though I make the same packs for each, I have to start from scratch on each module because of this.
Hello, thank you for your video, what options do I have I update my system on my Roland Td-17 but I didn't back up the presets. Isthere any place I can download the original sounds?
What is it that you're missing? When you updated the module you should have done a factory reset at the end, then all of the presets should be intact. Or did the update change some of the presets? I can't quite remember which update did what.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Hey , thank you for your response, I actually manage to fix it, what happened was I reset to factory but forgot to check the samplers box on, everything disappeared and I panic for one hour lol, all good now, but thumbs up for your video and you got a new sub, I'm actually a guitar player, but I love drums and percussion so I got my self this TD-17 its a fantastic module with so much potential! Cheers!
As usual, a great in-depth superb video from Luke. You have just saved me a hundred of copy-paste options on my new increased drum-set, including the whole pad compressions etc!! Now copy the pads with all settings will be an easy job!! Thanks
Hey again man. I purchased a bunch of kits from you for my td27 on Saturday. I backed them up all up on my pc before loading them into the module. I noticed while futzing around with some volume settings i may have inadvertantly changed an instrument in the kit. My solution was to just reload the kit from the SD card assuming it would overwrite anything i may have inadvertently done. Is that correct? Side question.. are all trigger settings independent of sound samples?
Hey! Thank you for your support 🙏 The only issue with reloading the kits from the SD card is that it will duplicate the samples that the kit installs, so that will take up unnecessary space. If you aren't running out of space then it might not matter to you but if you want to avoid this then you'll need to go into the User Sample menu, find the duplicates by their filenames and delete them. In most cases, the duplicates will be lower down the sample list, so you'll probably need to delete the ones that are earlier in the list, but you can check the sample slot number on the SUB Instrument layer of the kit if need be. Different kits have different numbers of samples, so for some it might just be two snare samples for head and rim and for others there might be multiple drums with head/rim samples. If you're unsure, feel free to email through the store with the details of the kits and I can help you find them.
Another great video, Luke. I found the exchange pad function recently. Very handy when laying out a custom kit to put the sound you want right where is most convenient.
Hey, thanks. YET with the TD-17 V2, they have added preloaded User Samples to some presets - how does one restore those, if one had hit 'Delete all User Samples'? With copying the preset, it doesn't restore the assignes user samples ;(
If you've saved a backup with the kits and samples that you want, reload the backup. If not, the only way to restore them is by doing a factory reset and checking the "reset with user sample" box. This will wipe all kits and current user samples and restore the stock kits and preloaded samples. If you have any kits you've made or changed that you want to keep, save those to your SD card with the single kit save (Other > Save) first so that you can load them again after the reset.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop that's pretty daft of Roland, IMHO, that you cannot restore single preset kits WITH the assigned user samples ARGH... well, your kits are better anyway ;) And since one has to know all this BEFORE you start out on the very first day, multiple inefficient having-lost-some-work phases are pre-programmed. PS: only in a total backup are the global pad settings saved, I assume? SO if one ever needs to restore those, it's also complete restore of the backup? cheers mate
Yes, it will restore the module back to the stock settings and remove all kits. If you check the "Reset with User Sample" box then it will also remove any added samples and restore the stock user samples (leaving this box unchecked will reset all of the settings but leave the samples intact).
Adding a possible silly question but I am designing a Kit wihch will be used with my RoladTD50X using two complete pads configuration... Can I have two kits saved with those particular pads inputs settings separetly??? I dont seem to find that answer...🤔🤔
Not a silly question! There's no way to save trigger settings to a particular kit, but the TD-50X does have a "trigger bank" feature where you can save up to 8 different pad setups. It's under TRIGGER > BANK and you just press up to highlight the number next to the bank name at the top and swap between them with the dial or +/- buttons. There are some preset ones already built in but they can be overwritten if you want. If any of your pads are shared between setups, I recommend copying your current trigger settings to another bank first, then just swapping the pads you need to change on the copied bank. You can do this using the Copy Menu and I have a video about that here - ua-cam.com/video/1b4faWD-DWY/v-deo.html
@@TheeDrumWorkshop much appreciated Luke. I came down to the conclusion to use the unused aux inputs to add those pads which are only for the smaller set... until that works 💪
Hi Luke, I've just used the SD Card Copy menu as explained from around 3:59 in your video, to reinstall the eDW kits I'd purchased before updating the TD-27 to Version 2.0. The kits don't sound anything like they used to before the update. Any suggestions as to what might be going on here? Thanks!
Hi David. The first thing I would double check is that you chose to copy them with the user samples. If not, they would definitely sound very different. You can check this by looking on the sub instrument layer of the snare to ensure that you see samples assigned, or you can check for any "eDW" labelled samples in the User Sample list. After that, I would make sure your trigger settings are definitely correctly set up after the update as these being configured wrong can cause issues with sample volume making things sound different. If you're sure it's neither of these, I'll have to look into it when I have the chance to update my own module.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks very much Luke! You've hit the nail on the head... I hadn't ticked the box "With User Sample". Thanks for your useful videos and advice. I'm learning enough to be dangerous!
Great video, I have a question which I think is more or less related to this topic. Say i have a kit loaded up from one of your packs, or VEX / drumtec etc etc. The kick being used is 001 jarrah, I’d like to scroll through the other kicks and listen to them with all the effects, AMB, mixer, tweaking etc that has been done on 001. It seems when I scroll through I get the raw kicks and also when I scroll back to 001 It then defaults back to that raw version?
Thanks! Hmm... you shouldn't lose all of the effects - the EQ, compression, ambience etc should remain the same when you swap between them. However, it sometimes does reset some parameters like the muffling, tuning, shell depth, head type etc. Unfortunately that can't be helped - it's just how Roland have set it up.
Hi Mick. Apologies, been a bit spotty on communication as I've been away from work for the last couple of weeks due to a family situation. I'll set a reminder to get back to you later today!
Luke f i hat any money I would have given you some for free and I mean it but there have been no jobs because of the Corona shit Love the things you do love from Mik Roy from Denmark
That's very kind of you, but I would never expect anyone to give me money for free! I hope you manage to get working again soon. Life has been made difficult for many in the past year, I wish you well!
You saved me so much time as I had been restoring old backups to new SD cards to get at old kits I had lost. Instead of the 1-kit load feature that only lets you copy a kit that is in the roland/kits folder, the copy menu on TD-27 allows you to get kits from any backup bank on any SD card. Very powerful!!! Why Roland never connected it in the documentation is unfortunate for many that have never seen this video. Thanks!
Love these tips!! Helped me copy a few pads to the aux inputs on my TD27 so I could ditch the cable snake. THANKS!
This helped me so much. Thank you!
Thanks for this Luke! Found this video via your latest memory/user space video. As always VERY usefull!
I cannot believe my TD-17 module won't allow me to 'exchange' and sort kit(numbers) ?
Newbie here,
Is it true that it is not possible to completely delete one of the factory preset kits?
I don’t see a function where I can just go, …I don’t want factory kit 10 and then just delete it.
Am I correct in this?
Thank you!
I have the TD 27 module. Is there a way to take just the rim of my floor tom and dedicate it to a BT1 as a cowbell through all kits? I know I need a splitter but I was curious about how to do it in the module.
Can you turn off the auto save on shutdown feature on td17 module?
You should be the one who makes Roland manuals 🥴😃
Hi, given that I use the same kit setting on my Roland TM 6 Pro via triggers on my acoustic kit, I'm buying a Roland snare, which will use the 6 input. However, during gigs, the program sound might vary on thd Roland snare but the kit would remain the same. Therefore, can the preset kit on my roland tm 6 pro be copied over to the user kit on the same roland tm 6 pro, so I can select say 4 identical user kits with different instrument options on just my Roland snare. That way I know e.g. kit one has say timbale setting, kit 2 has tom setting, kit 4 had timp setting etc
Hi. I had to check what the copy menu is like on the TM-6 Pro but yes, it looks like that should work. I imagine that any kit can be copied into any slot like other Roland modules, so duplicating it a few times then just editing one pad should be very simple.
any way to undo accidental changes to drum kit preset?
A stock preset or one that you've made/imported yourself?
can I copy the user kit existing in my old TD12 to the new TD17 as well?
No, sorry. Kit files/backups aren't able to be swapped between modules, unfortunately - they have different sounds and settings.
Hi thx for video . Is it possible to copy my favorite set from td 17 to td 50? ???
Hey. Unfortunately not, no. Despite the modules using the same "sound engine," the actual instruments and settings on each module are different. This means that any kits you make will only be compatible with the module it was made on.
Is there a way to use the td17 sound samples into the td27 module?
Unfortunately not, no! The sound set and parameters are all different. The best you'd be able to do is record a one shot sample of a TD-17 instrument and import that into the TD-27, but it wouldn't be the same. When I create kits for each Roland module, even though I make the same packs for each, I have to start from scratch on each module because of this.
Hello, thank you for your video, what options do I have I update my system on my Roland Td-17 but I didn't back up the presets. Isthere any place I can download the original sounds?
What is it that you're missing? When you updated the module you should have done a factory reset at the end, then all of the presets should be intact. Or did the update change some of the presets? I can't quite remember which update did what.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Hey , thank you for your response, I actually manage to fix it, what happened was I reset to factory but forgot to check the samplers box on, everything disappeared and I panic for one hour lol, all good now, but thumbs up for your video and you got a new sub, I'm actually a guitar player, but I love drums and percussion so I got my self this TD-17 its a fantastic module with so much potential! Cheers!
Ahh I see! Glad you managed to figure it out. Thank you for subscribing! Awesome, I'm glad you're enjoying the module.
As usual, a great in-depth superb video from Luke. You have just saved me a hundred of copy-paste options on my new increased drum-set, including the whole pad compressions etc!! Now copy the pads with all settings will be an easy job!!
Thanks
Excellent. Thank you, Luke. This is just what I needed to know to adjust your soft kits for my pad set up. Cheers.
Brilliant, thank you for this detailed explanation!
Hey again man. I purchased a bunch of kits from you for my td27 on Saturday. I backed them up all up on my pc before loading them into the module. I noticed while futzing around with some volume settings i may have inadvertantly changed an instrument in the kit. My solution was to just reload the kit from the SD card assuming it would overwrite anything i may have inadvertently done. Is that correct?
Side question.. are all trigger settings independent of sound samples?
Hey! Thank you for your support 🙏
The only issue with reloading the kits from the SD card is that it will duplicate the samples that the kit installs, so that will take up unnecessary space. If you aren't running out of space then it might not matter to you but if you want to avoid this then you'll need to go into the User Sample menu, find the duplicates by their filenames and delete them.
In most cases, the duplicates will be lower down the sample list, so you'll probably need to delete the ones that are earlier in the list, but you can check the sample slot number on the SUB Instrument layer of the kit if need be. Different kits have different numbers of samples, so for some it might just be two snare samples for head and rim and for others there might be multiple drums with head/rim samples. If you're unsure, feel free to email through the store with the details of the kits and I can help you find them.
@TheeDrumWorkshop ok ill take a look. Thanks for the help and the channel and the kits you made sound fantastic.
Another useful video Luke! Thanks!
Another great video, Luke. I found the exchange pad function recently. Very handy when laying out a custom kit to put the sound you want right where is most convenient.
Hey, thanks. YET with the TD-17 V2, they have added preloaded User Samples to some presets - how does one restore those, if one had hit 'Delete all User Samples'? With copying the preset, it doesn't restore the assignes user samples ;(
If you've saved a backup with the kits and samples that you want, reload the backup. If not, the only way to restore them is by doing a factory reset and checking the "reset with user sample" box. This will wipe all kits and current user samples and restore the stock kits and preloaded samples. If you have any kits you've made or changed that you want to keep, save those to your SD card with the single kit save (Other > Save) first so that you can load them again after the reset.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop that's pretty daft of Roland, IMHO, that you cannot restore single preset kits WITH the assigned user samples ARGH... well, your kits are better anyway ;) And since one has to know all this BEFORE you start out on the very first day, multiple inefficient having-lost-some-work phases are pre-programmed.
PS: only in a total backup are the global pad settings saved, I assume? SO if one ever needs to restore those, it's also complete restore of the backup? cheers mate
If I reset my TD50x will it remove the custom kits that I added to the module?
Yes, it will restore the module back to the stock settings and remove all kits. If you check the "Reset with User Sample" box then it will also remove any added samples and restore the stock user samples (leaving this box unchecked will reset all of the settings but leave the samples intact).
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I really just want to reset all the individual outputs back to normal main outs.
I could be wrong but how come you don’t have any videos with the TD-11 kit? I know it’s an older kit and all
It's simply because I've never owned one! I used to have a TD-15 but it was long before I started this channel.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ohhhh ok gotcha
Is there a way to copy midi presets to all the others to match?
Not as far as I'm aware 😔
@@TheeDrumWorkshop np manually isn't too hard. Thx for reply
Adding a possible silly question but I am designing a Kit wihch will be used with my RoladTD50X using two complete pads configuration... Can I have two kits saved with those particular pads inputs settings separetly??? I dont seem to find that answer...🤔🤔
Not a silly question! There's no way to save trigger settings to a particular kit, but the TD-50X does have a "trigger bank" feature where you can save up to 8 different pad setups. It's under TRIGGER > BANK and you just press up to highlight the number next to the bank name at the top and swap between them with the dial or +/- buttons. There are some preset ones already built in but they can be overwritten if you want.
If any of your pads are shared between setups, I recommend copying your current trigger settings to another bank first, then just swapping the pads you need to change on the copied bank. You can do this using the Copy Menu and I have a video about that here -
ua-cam.com/video/1b4faWD-DWY/v-deo.html
@@TheeDrumWorkshop much appreciated Luke. I came down to the conclusion to use the unused aux inputs to add those pads which are only for the smaller set... until that works 💪
Sounds like a good solution for your current setup size!
Hi Luke, I've just used the SD Card Copy menu as explained from around 3:59 in your video, to reinstall the eDW kits I'd purchased before updating the TD-27 to Version 2.0. The kits don't sound anything like they used to before the update. Any suggestions as to what might be going on here? Thanks!
Hi David. The first thing I would double check is that you chose to copy them with the user samples. If not, they would definitely sound very different. You can check this by looking on the sub instrument layer of the snare to ensure that you see samples assigned, or you can check for any "eDW" labelled samples in the User Sample list.
After that, I would make sure your trigger settings are definitely correctly set up after the update as these being configured wrong can cause issues with sample volume making things sound different.
If you're sure it's neither of these, I'll have to look into it when I have the chance to update my own module.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks very much Luke! You've hit the nail on the head... I hadn't ticked the box "With User Sample". Thanks for your useful videos and advice. I'm learning enough to be dangerous!
Ahh, fantastic! I'm glad that it was a simple fix and that you can get back to enjoying your kit!
Why did I wait to watch this video??? lol I should have done this first, immensely helpful - thanks!
Happy to help! 🙏
Great video, I have a question which I think is more or less related to this topic.
Say i have a kit loaded up from one of your packs, or VEX / drumtec etc etc. The kick being used is 001 jarrah, I’d like to scroll through the other kicks and listen to them with all the effects, AMB, mixer, tweaking etc that has been done on 001. It seems when I scroll through I get the raw kicks and also when I scroll back to 001 It then defaults back to that raw version?
Thanks! Hmm... you shouldn't lose all of the effects - the EQ, compression, ambience etc should remain the same when you swap between them. However, it sometimes does reset some parameters like the muffling, tuning, shell depth, head type etc. Unfortunately that can't be helped - it's just how Roland have set it up.
Useful thanks Luke. Are you still receiving emails and web forms from your website? Just curious as I have yet to hear back from you. Cheers mate
Hi Mick. Apologies, been a bit spotty on communication as I've been away from work for the last couple of weeks due to a family situation. I'll set a reminder to get back to you later today!
All the years, I didnt know that? Great video!
Thanks! Yeah, I think some aspects of this menu get missed by a lot of people (myself included for a while!)
No 'Copy Instrument' on the TD-17.... Why Roland, why?
Yeah, it's really stupid that they left that out on the 17!
Yes, fully agree with you
hey Luke
I really love you videos
because you are showing so many details
Love from Mik Roy from Denmark
Thank you!
Luke f i hat any money
I would have given you some
for free and I mean it
but there have been no jobs
because of the Corona shit
Love the things you do
love from Mik Roy from Denmark
That's very kind of you, but I would never expect anyone to give me money for free! I hope you manage to get working again soon. Life has been made difficult for many in the past year, I wish you well!
thank you when you upgrade pac kits
is rarity to buy TD 50 X
i'm gonna buy