Something they didn't cover in the movie that would have made the Baron's failure to understand what was going on in the south easier to belive was the Guild's prohibition on observing some parts of the planet. The Guild had an interest in allowing some smuggling to go on, in order to have a source of spice that was free from the Emporer's control. The only way to ensure that smuggling happened was to make sure some parts of the pkanet couldn't be observed. The Emporer knew about this but let it go on because a happy guild is one that does him favors, like moving Imperial troops on Guild ships so they can help the Harkonens eliminate the Atreidies. Gurney Halleck survived the Harkonen attempts to find him by becoming a smuggler. It's a big bit of plot that the movie just skips.
@@alexiachimciuc3199 Villeneuve managed to get in 60-70% of the book, _in six hours of movie._ To give the book full coverage, the movie would end up ten, maybe twelve hours long. I like it for what it got right, appreciate it for what it added and rue what it failed to include. All in all, worth the $3.50 I payed to see it during the matinee showing
I greatly disliked how the Guild was basically skipped over almost entirely in the films, considering it was Paul's threat to end spice production that actually gave him leverage over the guild, and by extension leverage over the Empire due to how powerful the spacing guild was. Honestly, we needed a 3rd movie.
Once Spice production was crippled - the one variable in all of his plans plans that he could not afford to fail on - Vladimir Harkonnen could only chose wether to die by the hands of the emperor, Muad'Dib or one of his nephews.
That was shock. Being a clinical psychopath , Feyd cannot feel true fear, or many other normal human emotions. That is why he kills and tortures, as the feeling elicits something like an emotion he can "feel"....or so I was told.🤔
They left a scene out that was in the book. Where it reveals that The Harkonans were just tools for the Emperor and by foolishly believing it was an equal partnership the Baron doomed House Harkonan to centuries or more of forced servitude to the Imperial House.
@flippert0 considering the nature of aristocracy, I'm sure there is at least one or two more floating fat men in the laansraad. I mean if you were rich and could get means to float yourself after becoming morbidly obese, someone's bound to do it.
I like how Feyd turns quickly to make sure no one is trying subdue him, and as soon as he sees no one he looks at the Baron like “damn, you guys messed up. Them, not me. It was all them. I had no part in it. I don’t even know them.”
Feyds also the only one who kinda told the Truth, admitting that Paul could have escaped into the Southern Storms. To which the Emperor's mind-reader tells him Feyds telling the truth. He didn't try to bullshit excuses like Vladimir or Rabban
@@pancakes8670 to be fair Feyd has essentially been very successful so far. Unlike his relatives he truly has nothing to lose here, the Emperor has no reason to be anything other than pleased for his presence on Arrakis.
@@ImWithTeamTrinity Allow me to explain: Walken pops up in a goofy little movie called 'Joe Dirt.' He's playing someone who is clearly a famous serial killer, pretending to be a nobody janitor, from Kansas. At one point, he stands up to Joe Dirt's bullies and tells 'em, Walken-style, that their "tone" is "all wrong..". At another point, he lets his dubious cover slip and admits to gruesomely killing "twelve people" in "New York City." They ask him, he said he was from Kansas, to which he convincingly replies, "I mean...Kansas". As though the two would be easily mistaken, you understand*. *A further explanation, if you're not familiar with the topography of the United States: New York City is essentially the epicenter of American, if not world, culture and wealth, and the US's largest city. The state of Kansas is the polar opposite, rural, agricultural and nowhere possessing a building taller than six stories.
@@costco_pizza It rather shows how powerless the emperor was. He could not command another house to clean up the mess because they could find out that Vladimir and the emperor had conspired against the Atreides (which already was not exactly a sign of strength). He could not let the rebellion crush the Harkonnens because that would have made him appeare weak (not to mention the vital role of spice production). He had to make a trial instead of merely an execution because the other great houses would not tolerate him crushing even the most despicable among their ranks unless he makes a very good case. He had to bring all his avaiable forces onto the planet because the Fremen had already shown to be a considerable threat. He had to bring his court along to make a public show how save he felt. And these are just the signs of his weakness connected to the scene, there are also the Bene Gesseret and the Spacing Guild who considerably constrain him. Of course, he is still incredibly powerful, can still move armies, can still cast down judgement, but all this is happens within an overwhelming net of subtly hostile factions and bad options.
Those aren’t suspensor belts but connections to his medical device. Suspensor belts are around the waist to let you float. The cables are never tight enough to hold him up.
He only has the cables in the second movie, I also don't think they are cables but instead air tubes. I think he has them because Duke Leto poisoned him with the false tooth Dr Yueh gave him. The suspender is implanted in the Baron's back, you can see it in the Baron's first scene in the first movie. I'm not certain though, just trying to infer with what's there.
The suspensors in the dune movie are along his spine. This was shown in the first movie. So the sardaukar also hit the very top of his neck/spine thus shutting off the suspensors.
Adding the floating ball in the second movie shows his physical degeneration that can only be midigated by hooking him up to more machinery, in a setting that adhores substituting human functions with machines.
The cables are connected to the orbs, which are helping him stay alive after he wss poisoned in Part I. Based on the little plates that expand and retract, it seems like some kind of filter that's cleaning out the remaining poison from his blood or a pump putting medication into his body.
0:57 Do you notice that the light in this scene only illuminates the Emperor and the Baron but not anyone else. I don’t know if this is because of tradition but it looks as though to signify that only the people in power in the Imperium will get shone by the light. 🤔
The emperor instructing that one Sardaukar like: ''Okay when the Baron doesn't know a question I want you to cut his life supply and make him lay on the ground''
@@Kal_El1994 I'm talking about Zack Snyder's Justice League. The story may have a few issues. But the visuals, world building and especially scale. Definitely holds up.
1:47 instead of well known, he should have said "thorougly confirmed by the imperial planetologist/ecologist of Arrakis, Kynes" The emperor would have to doubt the reasoning or loyalty of his chosen imperial ecologist of such an important planet, first, no?
She was long since dead at that point. And while she was alive things were much more under control. If anything shifting blame on an official appointed by the emperor himself who obviously couldn't defend herself could have backfired hard.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Indeed. The death of Kynes is an ugly detail, and the conspiracy between Corrino and Harkonnen are responsible for her death. The Baron would do himself no favors in the eyes of the Emperor by indirectly bringing it up, even if that was not really the intended thrust of the argument. It might sound like an veiled threat to rat out the Emperor to the Landstraad.
@@Ricardo-gd8wcThe emperor isn't supposed to be charismatic; he's a pathetic, paranoid man bent on keeping power. Walken plays that well, buy he's still Walken.
@@Ricardo-gd8wc I like his acting, it felt very grounded, like the dude is so bored, he has everything he wanted, he talks like he is the center of it all...
@@negveyThe way I see it is that he's an old man past his prime that's desperately holding onto the last vestiges of power and yeah he has the muscle to back it but also is clearly altered by how things haven't gone to plan.
Brah.. Seems like you want to get chained up, humiliated, deemed "inferior" and dominated by a chick like that.. 🤨🤔 🥺😮💨😞😓 She is hot though with that dress and how she keeps looking down at her subjects..
I love the fact that Christopher Walken is the emperor. An emperor from the empire state. I’d love to see this scene done with both, Jeff Goldblum and Nicolas Cage playing the emperor. That would be a real crazy-off!
Jeff Goldblum doesn't have this commanding emperor vibe. He is good as the guy smarter than everyone else - like in Jurassic Park and Independence day. But a king that rules over others by force he ain't. Nicolas Cage doesn't look regal enough. Walken was indeed a very good choice. Because funny and weird as he is - he is commanding
Jeff Goldblum: "Baron, have you ever investigated the South regions of Arrakis? Baron: "Well the entire region is uninhabitable. It's well known your majesty!" Jeff Goldblum: "Life...uh...finds a way".
Rabin lost his head because he spoke when he was not spoken to. The Baron only kept his because the Emperor knew that he couldn’t personally kill the head of a great house. The Landsradd would revolt and overthrow him. Harkonnen still had value in ridding the Imperium of the Fremen.
To emphasize the Landsraad, the Harkonnens were propably the most despised of all houses (and there is some competition), yet when they sent word that the emperor was attacking Arrakis the other houses immediatly sent ships into orbit.
The only gripe I have with this part of the movie is how easily the much dreaded sardaukar were so easily defeated and destroyed. I wished to see some more of their fighting
indeed, we didnt see a single 1v1 duel or fight between a Sardaukar and Freemen. Thousands of the feared Sardaukar just got wiped off in the dust. Waste really.
@@nm7358 They could still leave more time to the actual fighting like they did in the 1984 movie. I certainly wasn't going to the cinema in orderto see a National Geographic documentary about the Fremen.
in the book the fremen pay off the spacing guild (with spice) to prevent satellites from observing what is happening there, or landing ships there, etc. makes more sense.
@@RyanDaum Don't quote the books to me, I've read them. In the book the Fremen only started paying off the Spacing Guild during the leadership of Liet-Kynes (to cover his terraforming project) while House Harkonnen had held the fiefdom of Arrakis for ~60 years prior to House Atreides taking ownership. Liet-Kynes was 4 years old when Harkonnen were first given Arrakis, so I highly doubt his terraforming project had started.
In the movies at least it is described that the southern half is incredibly hostile to human life, on a planet that is already very barely habitable. Nevermind the thought of it housing enough people to resist a multistellar empire.
Before Kynes the Imperium / House Corrino was controlling the Fremen through the Bene Gesserit and just lying or otherwise omitting to the Harkonnen and presumably the previous stewards about the south's habitability. Kynes was a disaster since he was a Fremen above being an Imperial officer and in bribing the Guild to stop monitoring the planet he blinded the Imperium.
@@hugmynutus Over the centuries, the imperially appointed rulers of Arrakis did not care about the southern half of the planet because it was impractical to harvest spice there. Without a natural barrier from the storms large enough to protect a large facility, the harvesting equipment would get torn up from the storms. That there were (believed to be only) small groups of Fremen inclined to attack harvesters in the south certainly did not help. No, I do not think that entirely makes sense. There must be mountains somewhere where valleys could be improved to offer protection. Spice is so immensely valuable, according to the books, that the effort to expand Spice production should be well worth even a huge expense, even moving a small mountain to make the geography auspicious should be on the table.
Christopher Walken.. it was great to see him again but he deserved more screentime here. They should've introduced the Emperor in part one. He's the major puppet master and the whole mastermind behind the whole story and he gets *FOUR SCENES?!?!* Also Irulan is smoking in that chainblade armor!
@@ponyclub3198 I feel like Walken's unique delivery kinda works in this case. You would expect someone who's literally the leader of the known universe to come off as "strange" or "alien" in their mannerisms. Someone else in that role would probably have played it more generic.
@@ChrisF-jt1qf It's funny because Dune 1 seemed to take its time with the material in the first half of the book. Some things they skipped they shouldn't have (dinner party scene) but overall not bad. That said I'm re-reading the book and there's many time jumps and "trust me this happened" moments in there. It's not as well written as I'd remembered.
the entire act 3 and Chani bro the act 3 forgets some details very much all about the Sardaukar, talking english or having zero battles inside the pyramid (i mean 1 sec of battle is enough for me but they JUMP CUT like they forgot to add one scene more xD)
Ah, a lot of subplots were removed and dialogues changed. You can only do so much with what you're given. I don't think anyone would have done better with that material.
Baron... "you know how you got that dent - in your top lip? Way back before you were born - I told you a secret - Then! I put my finger there... And I said... Shhh!" Impossible to resist imagining that voice speaking other Walken lines in that tone and accent in that scene.
This is actual rich writing acting screenplay dialogue script and true cult brilliance. I absolutely love these films, there is different content if you read the books but I am enjoying this more than anything over the last 30yrs or so. Its honestly brilliant, the detail without detail is perfect in the costume design, that's how it feels for me, I remember a movie named krull is the early 80's where an invasion occurred in the palace, there is lots of great images in krull. The old school are the best without a shred of doubt, these new dune movies are not perfect but at least a kind of treat. The new alien movie was utter junk. Edit: what are you guys laughing at hurt my feelings, so I get proper fans gripes when it comes to such rubbish lines, why bother, they were all women to.
An important detail from the book not shown in the film is that Emperor Shaddam IV at this point was suffering from a serious form of fever, to which there is only one single cure
Love the camera work here. Until now we've only seen the Baron from a bottom-up angle, making larger and scarier by making the audience smaller before him. But now the Baron isn't the top dog of the plot anymore, so the camera looks DOWN on him. He goes from a hulking, imposing threat to a sack of lard.
Feyd's little "Hmm" and smirk when he sees Irulan makes me laugh.. he sees a piece of meat he thinks he will marry for the Throne. Also they did an amazing job with showing the Baron's blubber sag when it was no longer supported by the suspensors built into his back. It's a small detail, but went a long way to really show how helpless the Baron had suddenly become.
When the Bene Geserit Mother signed "they speak the truth" it didn't mean the Harkonnens were telling the truth about the South but that they didn't KNOW the reality. The emperor already knew of the evidence before they met and that it was Paul who was the Muadib. The Mother's signing was confirmation that the Baron was ignorant of reality and therefore failing at his purpose ruling over Arakkis, which is why he's eliminted moments later.
Honestly, I've enjoyed part 1 much more than part 2. Part 1 was a masterpiece, imho and the 2nd film is... good? OK? Maybe I've expected too much after the 1st one.
"Bring in that floating fat man the Baron.... Why have you brought me here..? "Your Hiness their must be some mistake, I never requested your pressence.... "Ah but your lack of action demanded it, your dreadful mismanagement demanded it...."The Duologue between Jose Ferrer (the emperor) & Kenneth Millan (baron harkonnen) in the original was full of veiled malice and fear from Millan. A great scene compared to the cardboard cut outs in this crap. A scene set by the Byrce Chrome Ball in the first scene, but it's nice to get novice or no talent 3D artists into the business.
Think its a mix, its the first notes of part 2 when the movie begins "Eclipse" and I think partly from part one when Chani gives Paul the dagger / crysknife (vision)
I feel like introducing the Emperor physically removes a ton of mystery and intimidation from the story, thus making it less interesting. Perhaps it would've been better if only a REPRESANTATIVE of the emperor was there to judge Baron Harkonnen. It would've made Shaddam IV more menacing, even though he's a decaying power basically. Here it is a bit _too_ visual.
While I understand that book told how the emperors palace was fantastically opulent, I like that the movie decided to go more minimalist. Gives the impression the emperor is so powerful he doesn't need to show off anymore.
Fata Morgana Dela Veritas: Fata Morgana = Illusion De la = Of the Veritas =Truth The pseudonym would be funny to those able to decipher it. Carté Blanche to twist and spin reality if the actor is true to his character. God I despise Thespians.
@@kfurnrldbgehebrb4497no way. Raban is not a skilled fighter but Gurney is arguably the best soldier for Atreides. It makes sense Gurney kills him immediately.
@@kfurnrldbgehebrb4497Gurney Halleck is one of the most skilled fighters alive. Rabban is just a big dude with a whip. It’s not an even battle in the slightest.
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Something they didn't cover in the movie that would have made the Baron's failure to understand what was going on in the south easier to belive was the Guild's prohibition on observing some parts of the planet. The Guild had an interest in allowing some smuggling to go on, in order to have a source of spice that was free from the Emporer's control. The only way to ensure that smuggling happened was to make sure some parts of the pkanet couldn't be observed. The Emporer knew about this but let it go on because a happy guild is one that does him favors, like moving Imperial troops on Guild ships so they can help the Harkonens eliminate the Atreidies. Gurney Halleck survived the Harkonen attempts to find him by becoming a smuggler. It's a big bit of plot that the movie just skips.
This makes so much more sense now.
from the short clips from YT this movie in two parts skips a lot from the book.
@@alexiachimciuc3199 Villeneuve managed to get in 60-70% of the book, _in six hours of movie._ To give the book full coverage, the movie would end up ten, maybe twelve hours long. I like it for what it got right, appreciate it for what it added and rue what it failed to include. All in all, worth the $3.50 I payed to see it during the matinee showing
I greatly disliked how the Guild was basically skipped over almost entirely in the films, considering it was Paul's threat to end spice production that actually gave him leverage over the guild, and by extension leverage over the Empire due to how powerful the spacing guild was. Honestly, we needed a 3rd movie.
@@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana Yeah, we did. That said, what we got was very good; right up until Chani's hissy fit. It made no sense, and was quite unnecessary.
"More, more... more cowbell, Baron."
You just need a little more cowbell
I’ve got a fevah and the only prescription is find Muadib
More cowbell now .
The emperor is just like you and me, he puts his pants on one leg at a time, but once he does he craps out spice.
The cowbell must flow.
The Baron was a dead man before he arrived.
Once Spice production was crippled - the one variable in all of his plans plans that he could not afford to fail on - Vladimir Harkonnen could only chose wether to die by the hands of the emperor, Muad'Dib or one of his nephews.
Hell, even if it fancied the emperor, he could ask his daughter to execute him in a horrifying way.
She could easily do it.
All because of a little letter that got into the Emperor’s hands.
I don't understand it. Spice production was resuming remember? Feyd even said it himself. Why would there be a need to kill the Baron?
@@costco_pizza
because he disrespected the top guy.
You never do that in business unless you're damn sure you can overthrow him.
I love how dangerous Irulan looks in this scene with her face enclosed by a veil of blades.
dangerously hot
I don’t think she looks dangerous she looks like a princess lol. And the least dangerous person there.
@@Jakob_23 If looks could kill, my friend, that Baron and both his nephews would've been gone.
Tiny pugs can't look dangerous and she's like a blond pug
It's so you can't touch her.
Same with Egyptians and ink
One of the only times Feyd has a slight look of fear.
That was shock. Being a clinical psychopath , Feyd cannot feel true fear, or many other normal human emotions. That is why he kills and tortures, as the feeling elicits something like an emotion he can "feel"....or so I was told.🤔
“MUAD’DEEB IS ALIVE! I MUST FIND ‘EM!”
Oh don't bother! He'll find you!
Mua'Dib: EMPEROR...WE COME FOR YOU !
Don't worry, he's coming for a visit.
"Two Fremen... fell into a bucket o' sand. One drowned... the other struggled... and then drowned."
In all the other scenes the Harkonnen look like the scariest big bad and unstoppable, it's weird seeing them cower in front of an even bigger big bad.
They left a scene out that was in the book.
Where it reveals that The Harkonans were just tools for the Emperor and by foolishly believing it was an equal partnership the Baron doomed House Harkonan to centuries or more of forced servitude to the Imperial House.
@@jamesricker3997 In the short and medium term, yes. The Harkonnens were part of a Bene Gesserit plan to weaken Corrino over the long term.
@@jamesricker3997 He also went into massive debt to the Spacing Guild which would need generations to pay off.
Bring in that floating fat man, the baron 😂
"the baron" is important, to differentiate from other floating fat men.
@flippert0 considering the nature of aristocracy, I'm sure there is at least one or two more floating fat men in the laansraad. I mean if you were rich and could get means to float yourself after becoming morbidly obese, someone's bound to do it.
@@flippert0 The Empire was a prosperous place, some planets could sustain multiple floating fat man of different aristocratic positions.
Which one?!?
2 million fair criticisms of Lynch's Dune, yet it's still infinitely superior to this.
I like how Feyd turns quickly to make sure no one is trying subdue him, and as soon as he sees no one he looks at the Baron like “damn, you guys messed up. Them, not me. It was all them. I had no part in it. I don’t even know them.”
"What do you mean? I'm your uncle!"
"Yeah, but you're never around and... uuh it's only maternal... by marriage"
Feyds also the only one who kinda told the Truth, admitting that Paul could have escaped into the Southern Storms. To which the Emperor's mind-reader tells him Feyds telling the truth. He didn't try to bullshit excuses like Vladimir or Rabban
@@pancakes8670 to be fair Feyd has essentially been very successful so far. Unlike his relatives he truly has nothing to lose here, the Emperor has no reason to be anything other than pleased for his presence on Arrakis.
@@SorchaSublimeUnlike the rest of his cowardly noble family, feyd was even willing to lay down his life on the emperor's behalf in the end.
@@7ElevenTruther Feyd didn't care about the emperor, he just wanted to kill Paul Atreides.
"Baron..your tone...it's all wrong. Your lie to me again, and stab ya in the face with a soldering iron."
"Killed 12 people, on Arrakis..."
"I thought you said you were from Kansas?"
"I mean...Kansas."
@@n.w.1803 Arkansas? This is getting very confusing.
@@ImWithTeamTrinity
Allow me to explain: Walken pops up in a goofy little movie called 'Joe Dirt.' He's playing someone who is clearly a famous serial killer, pretending to be a nobody janitor, from Kansas. At one point, he stands up to Joe Dirt's bullies and tells 'em, Walken-style, that their "tone" is "all wrong..". At another point, he lets his dubious cover slip and admits to gruesomely killing "twelve people" in "New York City." They ask him, he said he was from Kansas, to which he convincingly replies, "I mean...Kansas". As though the two would be easily mistaken, you understand*.
*A further explanation, if you're not familiar with the topography of the United States: New York City is essentially the epicenter of American, if not world, culture and wealth, and the US's largest city. The state of Kansas is the polar opposite, rural, agricultural and nowhere possessing a building taller than six stories.
That ain't any kinda fun.
1:09 Christopher Walken saying “Mad?” in the most Christopher Walken way ever.
“Have the searched the South?”
“No”
“What?”
“I said no.”
“Why not?”
“I don’t want to.”
7 psychopaths lol
Well ok then😢
But it doesn't make any sense?
Actually, the Spacing Guild probits any space surveys of the south to protect its own interests.
@@CZpersi Yeah, but who actually reads books when we have machines that'll do all the work for us?
He's calm until he isn't, hm. Definition of unhinged.
The Emperor?
@@samkresil6011Yes. It just goes to show you how powerful the Emperor is. He came to fix up the mess the Baron caused personally!!! 😱
@@costco_pizza than he proceeded to be completely incompetent the rest of the film
Well - but it's pretty hinged for Christopher Walken standards :D
@@costco_pizza It rather shows how powerless the emperor was.
He could not command another house to clean up the mess because they could find out that Vladimir and the emperor had conspired against the Atreides (which already was not exactly a sign of strength). He could not let the rebellion crush the Harkonnens because that would have made him appeare weak (not to mention the vital role of spice production). He had to make a trial instead of merely an execution because the other great houses would not tolerate him crushing even the most despicable among their ranks unless he makes a very good case. He had to bring all his avaiable forces onto the planet because the Fremen had already shown to be a considerable threat. He had to bring his court along to make a public show how save he felt. And these are just the signs of his weakness connected to the scene, there are also the Bene Gesseret and the Spacing Guild who considerably constrain him.
Of course, he is still incredibly powerful, can still move armies, can still cast down judgement, but all this is happens within an overwhelming net of subtly hostile factions and bad options.
Those aren’t suspensor belts but connections to his medical device. Suspensor belts are around the waist to let you float. The cables are never tight enough to hold him up.
He only has the cables in the second movie, I also don't think they are cables but instead air tubes. I think he has them because Duke Leto poisoned him with the false tooth Dr Yueh gave him.
The suspender is implanted in the Baron's back, you can see it in the Baron's first scene in the first movie. I'm not certain though, just trying to infer with what's there.
The suspensors in the dune movie are along his spine. This was shown in the first movie. So the sardaukar also hit the very top of his neck/spine thus shutting off the suspensors.
Adding the floating ball in the second movie shows his physical degeneration that can only be midigated by hooking him up to more machinery, in a setting that adhores substituting human functions with machines.
The cables are connected to the orbs, which are helping him stay alive after he wss poisoned in Part I. Based on the little plates that expand and retract, it seems like some kind of filter that's cleaning out the remaining poison from his blood or a pump putting medication into his body.
0:57 Do you notice that the light in this scene only illuminates the Emperor and the Baron but not anyone else. I don’t know if this is because of tradition but it looks as though to signify that only the people in power in the Imperium will get shone by the light. 🤔
It is probably also a shot composition thing. Showing that in this scene the emperor is clamping down on the baron.
I disagree. The Bene Gesserit has a lot of power too, but the light isn’t shining on them.
@@NguyenMinh-vs1vm coz they work in the shadows
@@NeilsonBuntowa exactly
The light is like a crosshair, could be that the baron is in the emperors sights...
"Baron... This Spice. Is your birthright. Hed be DAMNED if he let some Fremen put their greasy hands on your birthright. So he hid it..."
Up its ass. 😂
😂🤣
"In the one place he knew he could hide something..."
"Five long years he hid this spice.. Then died of dysentery."
I came here to post this.
The emperor instructing that one Sardaukar like: ''Okay when the Baron doesn't know a question I want you to cut his life supply and make him lay on the ground''
This 2 minute clip of dune is 1000000 times better than the entire Justice league movie.
No, Zack Snyder's Justice Leagues holds up well with this
How on EARTH you can watch DUNE 2 and somehow bring in Justice League is some insane level of reaching lmao
@@Kal_El1994 I'm talking about Zack Snyder's Justice League. The story may have a few issues. But the visuals, world building and especially scale. Definitely holds up.
@@SageAwakensI hear you brother, Although I feel dune 2 is better. Snyder made Superman/Darkseid look terrifyingly dangerous.
another villenueve fanatic? please calm down. Dune 2 is great. no need to belittle other movies.
0:45 Feyd : Hmm 😋
He is thinking, " Oh crap my Uncle is dead. Now how do I preserve my House's power and more importantly how do I get out of this alive?"
"My uncle is getting fired, time to flirt with the daughter of the boss".
He’s like “if I become emperor, that’s mine 🤤” 😂
"I gotta fever, and the only prescription is findin' this Muad'Dib guy!"
1:47 instead of well known, he should have said "thorougly confirmed by the imperial planetologist/ecologist of Arrakis, Kynes" The emperor would have to doubt the reasoning or loyalty of his chosen imperial ecologist of such an important planet, first, no?
She was long since dead at that point. And while she was alive things were much more under control. If anything shifting blame on an official appointed by the emperor himself who obviously couldn't defend herself could have backfired hard.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Indeed. The death of Kynes is an ugly detail, and the conspiracy between Corrino and Harkonnen are responsible for her death. The Baron would do himself no favors in the eyes of the Emperor by indirectly bringing it up, even if that was not really the intended thrust of the argument. It might sound like an veiled threat to rat out the Emperor to the Landstraad.
The casting of Christopher Walken was both brilliant and distracting.
If it’s distracting then it’s bad casting. And he conveys none of the charisma the Emperor has.
@@Ricardo-gd8wcThe emperor isn't supposed to be charismatic; he's a pathetic, paranoid man bent on keeping power. Walken plays that well, buy he's still Walken.
@@Ricardo-gd8wc I like his acting, it felt very grounded, like the dude is so bored, he has everything he wanted, he talks like he is the center of it all...
@@negveyThe way I see it is that he's an old man past his prime that's desperately holding onto the last vestiges of power and yeah he has the muscle to back it but also is clearly altered by how things haven't gone to plan.
I prefer the book version where Alia just insults the fuck out of the Baron
Well, there he is the Barron himself. He isn't much.
@@DanielMcGillis-f3w “is it a imp?”
I think Alia's stares are enough. They just scream of contempt.
" I Told You... Arrakis needs more Cowbell!"
need a women to look at me like irulan does most of this scene 0:40
Me too, Florence is fine af 🥵
Brah.. Seems like you want to get chained up, humiliated, deemed "inferior" and dominated by a chick like that.. 🤨🤔
🥺😮💨😞😓
She is hot though with that dress and how she keeps looking down at her subjects..
She wants to kill the entire fucking room.
Brother, you do not want to get into bed with that, TRUST.
The closest thing to a 40K film you're going to get kids.
Baron, do you see this watch?
This chicken ain’t gunna make a fat man slim! 😂
The baron could hide many of those.
"This is not over! Baron!"
if you get it, you get it
Country bears
They say... the South.... have lots of FREMEN... you must FIND 'EM!
I love the fact that Christopher Walken is the emperor. An emperor from the empire state.
I’d love to see this scene done with both, Jeff Goldblum and Nicolas Cage playing the emperor. That would be a real crazy-off!
Jeff Goldblum doesn't have this commanding emperor vibe. He is good as the guy smarter than everyone else - like in Jurassic Park and Independence day. But a king that rules over others by force he ain't.
Nicolas Cage doesn't look regal enough.
Walken was indeed a very good choice. Because funny and weird as he is - he is commanding
@@robertnett9793 Kaos!
Charles Dance would also have been a good choice, or Bill Nighy. But Walken was great, wish he had more screentime.
@@rpersen Oh... yeah.. I can see Nighy in that role. Also Charles Dance - yes of course. Those two would have been good choices also.
Jeff Goldblum: "Baron, have you ever investigated the South regions of Arrakis?
Baron: "Well the entire region is uninhabitable. It's well known your majesty!"
Jeff Goldblum: "Life...uh...finds a way".
"Bring in that floating fat man............................the Baron."
"Now tell me where he is, before I do damage you won't float away from."
Baron is condemned to a slow death.
Rabban: holy fuckin shit
Feyd: …….not bad
"Guess what? I 've gotta fever...and the only prescription is more spice flow.".
Rabin lost his head because he spoke when he was not spoken to. The Baron only kept his because the Emperor knew that he couldn’t personally kill the head of a great house. The Landsradd would revolt and overthrow him. Harkonnen still had value in ridding the Imperium of the Fremen.
To emphasize the Landsraad, the Harkonnens were propably the most despised of all houses (and there is some competition), yet when they sent word that the emperor was attacking Arrakis the other houses immediatly sent ships into orbit.
@@Nickname-ef9tvTo be fair thats a pretty big claim to make, it warrants some investigation. Even if its from the Harkonnens
The only gripe I have with this part of the movie is how easily the much dreaded sardaukar were so easily defeated and destroyed. I wished to see some more of their fighting
They had to make time for Chalamet randomly scream or wonder around aimlessly.
indeed, we didnt see a single 1v1 duel or fight between a Sardaukar and Freemen. Thousands of the feared Sardaukar just got wiped off in the dust. Waste really.
@@samtexaco1255
So true. Not sure what Villeneuve was trying to achieve in this weird pacing. He was totally out of focus on Dune 2.
Sardaukar were not much of a match for the Fremen in the book either
@@nm7358
They could still leave more time to the actual fighting like they did in the 1984 movie. I certainly wasn't going to the cinema in orderto see a National Geographic documentary about the Fremen.
"Well, the mountains will protect us from most of it" that's the critical line of this scene.
It's so satisfying seeing the Baron get humiliated by the Sardurkar because he used them on thousands of innocents
0:42 : I think Feyd wants to investigate IRULAN'S 'south 'regions'. [hear that little noise he made?] 😉
Oh I was shipping them because of this scene!
1:04 "More, MORE. give me more." is a meme phrase for me
The Chernobyl radiation did a number on Baron.
Christopher Walken is an amazing actor, legendary.
From King Louie to Emperor Shaddam.
"Call me Shaddam."
writing off the whole south half of a plant is wild
in the book the fremen pay off the spacing guild (with spice) to prevent satellites from observing what is happening there, or landing ships there, etc. makes more sense.
@@RyanDaum Don't quote the books to me, I've read them.
In the book the Fremen only started paying off the Spacing Guild during the leadership of Liet-Kynes (to cover his terraforming project) while House Harkonnen had held the fiefdom of Arrakis for ~60 years prior to House Atreides taking ownership. Liet-Kynes was 4 years old when Harkonnen were first given Arrakis, so I highly doubt his terraforming project had started.
In the movies at least it is described that the southern half is incredibly hostile to human life, on a planet that is already very barely habitable. Nevermind the thought of it housing enough people to resist a multistellar empire.
Before Kynes the Imperium / House Corrino was controlling the Fremen through the Bene Gesserit and just lying or otherwise omitting to the Harkonnen and presumably the previous stewards about the south's habitability.
Kynes was a disaster since he was a Fremen above being an Imperial officer and in bribing the Guild to stop monitoring the planet he blinded the Imperium.
@@hugmynutus Over the centuries, the imperially appointed rulers of Arrakis did not care about the southern half of the planet because it was impractical to harvest spice there. Without a natural barrier from the storms large enough to protect a large facility, the harvesting equipment would get torn up from the storms. That there were (believed to be only) small groups of Fremen inclined to attack harvesters in the south certainly did not help.
No, I do not think that entirely makes sense. There must be mountains somewhere where valleys could be improved to offer protection. Spice is so immensely valuable, according to the books, that the effort to expand Spice production should be well worth even a huge expense, even moving a small mountain to make the geography auspicious should be on the table.
Christopher Walken.. it was great to see him again but he deserved more screentime here. They should've introduced the Emperor in part one. He's the major puppet master and the whole mastermind behind the whole story and he gets *FOUR SCENES?!?!* Also Irulan is smoking in that chainblade armor!
What song from the soundtrack is the first minute from? I love the Gregorian-esque chanting!
We need a Dune MMO
There is one coming soon, it's called Dune: Awakening
Every scene is a art, so beautiful, so sinister....
"Come here, I want to tell you something. WE NEED MORE COWBELL!" 🤣
Walken as the Emperor is so crazy it just worked
"Muad' Doob is toking the finest weed in the Imperium."
It’s the Keifsatz Hasherach
Lisan al-Ganjaib!
Your mid pack...is showing evidence of loud asf activity
I was expecting The emperor to yell “Shak-eye-ging-how!” at the baron lol
I declare a census and I shall answer it.
Sevatar:"DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR".
Best casting I've seen in a long time and they really only gave him 5 minutes in the movie? That's criminal
5 mins too many.
He makes it look like a parody.
worst casting across the 2 movies
@@ponyclub3198 I disagree, I thought it worked well. A lot better than the guy who played the emperor in 1984; he wasn't nearly sinister enough.
@@iderbolis
Lol, the guy who pulled the heart plug from that poor boy wasn't sinister enough?
@@ponyclub3198 I feel like Walken's unique delivery kinda works in this case. You would expect someone who's literally the leader of the known universe to come off as "strange" or "alien" in their mannerisms. Someone else in that role would probably have played it more generic.
Nice to know the Emperor of all the known universe is from the upper west side.
Baron please, scooch closer, don't make me tell you again about the scooching
Missed the classic line, "Bring in..the floating fat man..the Baron!"
You know those sardaukar was thinking about how cold this was gonna look when they was planning it
Dune part 2 should have been two separate movies. That would have allowed them to Get more into depth of the politics between the antagonists
Nah
yep and to handle the time gap properly between "paul joins fremen" and "paul is leader of fremen". the movie compresses it way way way too much
That's Hollywood for you. Dune 2 is straight up break neck in terms of pace
@@ChrisF-jt1qf It's funny because Dune 1 seemed to take its time with the material in the first half of the book. Some things they skipped they shouldn't have (dinner party scene) but overall not bad.
That said I'm re-reading the book and there's many time jumps and "trust me this happened" moments in there. It's not as well written as I'd remembered.
It could have been 10 movies and these still would not cover everything, but try signing up dozens of A class actors to a single project for 20 years.
Charles Dance would've been legendary as the emporer
1:25 “He speaks the truth.”
I actually thought the only weak spot in the entire movie was Walken's portrayal of Shaddam IV
the entire act 3 and Chani bro
the act 3 forgets some details very much all about the Sardaukar, talking english or having zero battles inside the pyramid (i mean 1 sec of battle is enough for me but they JUMP CUT like they forgot to add one scene more xD)
Ah, a lot of subplots were removed and dialogues changed. You can only do so much with what you're given. I don't think anyone would have done better with that material.
one channel audio? what makes so many channels like this create 4k videos with mono sound?!
Baron, you're an eggplant.
Babies, when we're done here, you'll be wearin' gold plated stillsuits.
What do the hand signals mean at 1:25 ?
I think it's "He's telling the truth"
@@VihaanBelani Correct. The movie (but not this clip) had subtitles saying exactly that.
I think I might have caught something “last night “
“They are telling the truth” I am a native of atreides
“He speaks the truth.”
Baron... "you know how you got that dent - in your top lip? Way back before you were born - I told you a secret - Then! I put my finger there... And I said... Shhh!"
Impossible to resist imagining that voice speaking other Walken lines in that tone and accent in that scene.
This is actual rich writing acting screenplay dialogue script and true cult brilliance. I absolutely love these films, there is different content if you read the books but I am enjoying this more than anything over the last 30yrs or so. Its honestly brilliant, the detail without detail is perfect in the costume design, that's how it feels for me, I remember a movie named krull is the early 80's where an invasion occurred in the palace, there is lots of great images in krull. The old school are the best without a shred of doubt, these new dune movies are not perfect but at least a kind of treat. The new alien movie was utter junk. Edit: what are you guys laughing at hurt my feelings, so I get proper fans gripes when it comes to such rubbish lines, why bother, they were all women to.
An important detail from the book not shown in the film is that Emperor Shaddam IV at this point was suffering from a serious form of fever, to which there is only one single cure
Love the camera work here. Until now we've only seen the Baron from a bottom-up angle, making larger and scarier by making the audience smaller before him.
But now the Baron isn't the top dog of the plot anymore, so the camera looks DOWN on him. He goes from a hulking, imposing threat to a sack of lard.
Feyd's little "Hmm" and smirk when he sees Irulan makes me laugh.. he sees a piece of meat he thinks he will marry for the Throne.
Also they did an amazing job with showing the Baron's blubber sag when it was no longer supported by the suspensors built into his back. It's a small detail, but went a long way to really show how helpless the Baron had suddenly become.
When the Bene Geserit Mother signed "they speak the truth" it didn't mean the Harkonnens were telling the truth about the South but that they didn't KNOW the reality. The emperor already knew of the evidence before they met and that it was Paul who was the Muadib. The Mother's signing was confirmation that the Baron was ignorant of reality and therefore failing at his purpose ruling over Arakkis, which is why he's eliminted moments later.
I like Walken, but he was wrong for this role
your intro and outro are longer than the actual clip
Really should've listened to that Sardaukar commander
Looks a bit cold in there.
More MORE! Give me more scenes of the Emperor please!
Honestly, I've enjoyed part 1 much more than part 2. Part 1 was a masterpiece, imho and the 2nd film is... good? OK? Maybe I've expected too much after the 1st one.
"Muad'Deeb has found a motha... Oh hoo yeah...." *coughcoughahem*
Christopher Walken as the Emperor is the biggest miscast in modern cinematic history.
"Bring in that floating fat man the Baron.... Why have you brought me here..?
"Your Hiness their must be some mistake, I never requested your pressence....
"Ah but your lack of action demanded it, your dreadful mismanagement demanded it...."The Duologue between Jose Ferrer (the emperor) & Kenneth Millan (baron harkonnen) in the original was full of veiled malice and fear from Millan. A great scene compared to the cardboard cut outs in this crap. A scene set by the Byrce Chrome Ball in the first scene, but it's nice to get novice or no talent 3D artists into the business.
“Baron, I’m Sicilian…..”
Bring in that floating fat man, the Baron.
With Alia this scene would have been even more epic
1:24 gang signs.
2:15 please someone tell me which soundtrack that one is
it sounds so good
Think its a mix, its the first notes of part 2 when the movie begins "Eclipse" and I think partly from part one when Chani gives Paul the dagger / crysknife (vision)
@@Wdomino huh its quite good imo
May the movies do Irulan better than the books 🤞🤞🤞
I feel like introducing the Emperor physically removes a ton of mystery and intimidation from the story, thus making it less interesting.
Perhaps it would've been better if only a REPRESANTATIVE of the emperor was there to judge Baron Harkonnen. It would've made Shaddam IV more menacing, even though he's a decaying power basically. Here it is a bit _too_ visual.
It's closer to the book that he does show up. He eventually comes to Arrakis to set things straight near the end of the first book.
Implausible for an industrial power like the Harkonnens to not assess major threats that threaten spice production. Very provincial.
You need to include the forced subtitles.
"You're a cantaloupe..."
While I understand that book told how the emperors palace was fantastically opulent, I like that the movie decided to go more minimalist. Gives the impression the emperor is so powerful he doesn't need to show off anymore.
This setting is kind of stylish compared to the most empty clean spaces
WHY NOT FULL MOVIE
That redditmod is in a lot of trouble.
Fata Morgana Dela Veritas:
Fata Morgana = Illusion
De la = Of the
Veritas =Truth
The pseudonym would be funny to those able to decipher it. Carté Blanche to twist and spin reality if the actor is true to his character.
God I despise Thespians.
Baron, have you any idea...how much cowbell is required in this situation?
I can't believe how universally people are drooling over these movies. I will grant you that it looks amazing, but he messed up so much of the story.
I must find him! And, I need more cow bells!
I really wanted to see raban and gurney fight
Didn't they? I thought gurney killed him in a couple seconds
@@theexcaliburone5933 yup should’ve been a bit longer
@@kfurnrldbgehebrb4497no way. Raban is not a skilled fighter but Gurney is arguably the best soldier for Atreides. It makes sense Gurney kills him immediately.
@@kfurnrldbgehebrb4497Gurney Halleck is one of the most skilled fighters alive. Rabban is just a big dude with a whip. It’s not an even battle in the slightest.
@@kfurnrldbgehebrb4497not at all it showed how rabben was nothing but big dog with a small bite.. gurney was a true warrior and it showed