At least the people who investigate the Ripper from time to time have a possible name in mind, even if they never have enough evidence to provide 100% proof.
They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
They do it on the edge of a crime and have lawyers who if you take em to court will ensure you pay £100 k plus for the privilege so you will end up so in debt your life ruined. Hence why people don't do it. MPs just don't care
Malicious Communications Act 1988 It Illegal to ""send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety" Someone just need the money to fight them in court over it, Under the TV licensing legislation, they are allowed to inform people about the law.......but the Malicious Communications Act means they are not allowed to cause distress by doing so.
@@Tommy-he7dx Capita will have some professional, not "barrack room" lawyers, who advise them that their letters break no laws. These letters are wrong, of course, but many things that are wrong are also legal. Any money spent challenging them in court would most probably be wasted.
It's a good few years now for me. I've had a few visits since not redeclaring no licence needed but no follow up. I took CJ's advice and simply said, "No thanks" and shut the door. I installed a video doorbell, though, in case of an attempted stitch-up. They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
I remember as a kid in the 70'S the TV vans going around all the houses. I asked my dad what are the vans. He said to scare people. But there isn't anything inside. As a kid, I had to find out. I waited until the van's back doors were about to open. I saw fully inside the van and all I saw was a table with a man sitting at it. nothing else
I think they had to have a bloke in the back to manually turn the probably equally fake antenna menacingly. I remember from somewhere someone saying they got a very close look into the back of one of the vans, and it had plenty of equipment, but just random looking stuff, some even totally irrelevant,and nothing properly connected, just to look 'technical' enough through the darkened windows if caught stationary. I believe some of the hand-portable kit, with the smaller yagi antenna, was the real deal though, useful for close-up detection of the frequencies that CRT tellies generated to create the picture.
I have been without a licence since May and I have had two letters so far and to be honest if I had not watched your video's I may have been frightened by these threatening letters but your video's have given me courage to stand my ground. I've even had a visit from one of the goons, well two actually, one was training the other by the looks of things on my door video bell. I wasn't in so didn't speak to them but if it happens again I know what to do. Thank you Jon for the work you put into these video's.
I follow the rules and don't watch anything I shouldn't. Cancelled my DD around 5 months ago. Several letters and 3 knocks. I answered today and he just asked if I was the homeowner no self ID. I asked who he was and when he briefly flashed a card I said no thank you and closed the door. He stood for a few seconds and shouted through a closed door ..so are you saying you don't need a TV licence❓ I obvs didn't reply, but it did shake me up more than I thought it would. He was very grumpy ☹️
You'll get the exact same letters again early next year , they send the same row of letters out one after the other on a loop . I've got 12 years of letters saved in a big pile (I love receiving them) .
@@cassandrade-wolfe6926 Watch anything you want there's nothing they can do about it , just don't be stupid by letting them inside the house . He'd be grumpy because he missed out the bonus he'd have got if he'd got you to buy a licence .
I've been license free for 11 months, and have received 4 letters in this time. They did a no license needed over the phone. I'm not sure about the first letter , but the rest are addressed to The Legal Occupier. I open, read, then rip up. I'll never pay the TV tax again, thanks to this channel!
I only cancelled the direct debit, as I'm planning on stopping paying next year. Two weeks after canceling the direct debit we have received both email and a letter reminding that we must have the direct debit so we are legally licensed.
It's a good few years now for me. I've had a few visits since not redeclaring no licence needed but no follow up. I took CJ's advice and simply said, "No thanks" and shut the door. I installed a video doorbell, though, in case of an attempted stitch-up. They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
I did the no license needed call two years ago and since then I've just received threatening letter number 28 what other company would the shit politicians allow it. I've stopped shopping at Tesco's but they don't send me threatening letter's
It happened to me a few years ago. I had a goon visit and i was a fool and invited her in to chat. I showed her i didn't have my tv tuned into live broadcast and she got me to sign something. I thought that would be the end of it.....a few weeks later i get summoned to court for watching tv without a licence. I had a recording of the goon's entire talk to me and i took this with me. Good job i did as stuff was indeed added to the form i had signed. Stuff that i had unplugged the aerial when i saw her arriving. This was a lie. But i said that i didn't watch live broadcast and so unplugged the aerial lead. I showed her. She changed it later to i unplugged it when i saw her arriving. Lucky i made the recording and the judge dropped all charges. My advice is when a goon calls either don't answer or tell them you are not interested and close the door. Do not get into a conversation with them. Do not let them in and most important ....DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING
You can withdraw their "implied" right of access to your property in writing. After you serve the notice, because they don't have police or bailiff powers, they can not legally enter your property as that would be trespassing. And because they're trespassing, any "evidence" they obtain would be thrown out of court because it was illegally obtained. I'm not a lawyer, though this is advice I've seen given from people dealing with the same issues.
Right on point re warrants. Another Interesting point here… if the interview is under caution, are they not offering access to PACE codes, free legal advice, etc.? Failure to do so would usually render the interview inadmissible. No one is obliged to say anything. If they are referring to the caution, they should make this clear - as part of the caution - “You do not have to say anything …”
I am a 81 year old ‘occupier’ have not had a licence for years,am on pension credit so exempt,they don’t know that though,never watch any of there rubbish, totally corrupt anyway,they can piss off.
I would bet my life that they DO KNOW that you receive pension credit because Capita and all the government departments have reciprocal info sharing arrangements. I know this because when my mother died, who had a free over 80 licence at that time it only took them six weeks to start sending the harrassment letters to her address. Capita had got the info from DWP. My local MP, Andrew Gwynne, brought this up in parliament but was basically fobbed off.
Iv been licence free for over 4 years now thank you chilly, I recived one of these letters the other day I said dear me as I tore it up and put it in the bin.. 🤣
I live in a flat. My favourite was a call from the entry phone asking me if the block had a communal licence. I replied that I had no idea as I did not have a TV ( I am probably the only occupier without a licence.) I suggested that that he should ask the house manager. I later discovered that she sent him away with a flea in his ear. I have not had a TV for over 20 years and got fed up with returniing the letters so now I bin then unopened. At least with this channel I know what I am missing!
17 years license free, keep up the good work and freeing more from the fear of shackles that is worrying about the antiquated and arguably redundant license fee
Yep why is the U.K. stuck with a complicated system. Complications that can leave people confused. Why don’t you fund your National Broadcaster from tax.😊
@@davecooper3238 It is all about making money through fakery. Why is it that I have to fight so hard just to tell some creepy organisation I DONT NEED YOUR LICENCE!
I had one of those last week. What fun. I still wonder what the turnover of door to door salespeople is as more and more people realise how to deal with these people and they find an easer way to make money. The BlackBelt Barrister had a video on this the other week say, unless I have misunderstood what he said, was that the BBC have a get out clause in law, so are able to continue sending these letters.
Let’s face it, it’s probably the last few years of public service broadcasting as we know it, less and less people are watching live Tv, especially BBC and ITV etc, it’s just not how we consume our tv viewing anymore, a serious debate needs to be had around Tv licensing, broadcasting in general, and revenue streams, even SKY are seeing falling subscribers over the past number of years, Tv is just becoming out of date medium with younger generations, who are certainly not interested in anything BBC pump out across the airwaves.
"And even if you do tell us you don't need a TV license we might still come round anyway to make sure you're not lying." Where is my incentive to bother replying?
I now have thirteen letters from TV licencing on my noticeboard (one per month) awaiting my first goon visit. I will do as you suggest - "no thank you' and close the door. BUT I will also record this interaction as they can and will lie about any conversation in an attempt to gain a search warrant. If I have evidence of what I have not said then that can be used in evidence against the goons. Is this worth mentioning in your videos? Keep smiling Jon!
If I ever open the door to one, it'll be by mistake, thinking it's someone else for some other reason. That could easily happen, but I won't be worried about recording anything. They have no more power to obtain a search warrant on me for no reason at all, than any completely random other person.
I've been getting these letters for around 25 years now. That's a lot of 'investigations'. Have received four goon visits over that time, but all were sent packing. 🤣
I got one today as well, big stamp at the bottom 'Enforcement officer visit approved' signed by Scott Robson. I'll file it away with the other dozen letters.
Scott Robson .. which tv licencing office does he belong to? We have Gordon Smith .. now Ross McTaggart Darlington DL98 1AT .. they even say on the back "Return Address!"
I got exactly the same letter about 6 months ago, and still no-one has called. Being retired, I'm at home the vast majority of the time so it's unlikely they would have missed me 🤣
They cannot afford to send letters and call at every property like they pretend they will, they just hope the letters( I have had dozens over the last 4 years) will frighten you into paying for something you don't need and didn't ask for
Capita have an arrangement where these are just destroyed so no point. Best to forward to your MP asking why their government permits the BBC to send intimidating correspondence to those who are entirely legal.
They have entered the final stage of investigating my address about 6 times since I cancelled the direct debit (without informing them of course because, - f**k 'em). No-one has ever chapped my door - mind you, living in the northwest Scottish Highlands probably helps. I was going to save all the letters and send them in bulk back to their Dundee address for a wind up, but using them to light the stove was a better economic decision.
I have been without a licence now for 8 months. I did not send them a 'no licence required' letter, but just went to the bank and rescinded the standing order to the BBC. JOB DONE!
Laws, dating back to the days of Magna Cata are designed with the rich in mind - not an ounce is ever given to the poor. Later these laws extended to protect businesses too.
@@noelward8047 why, ? The City of London isn't part of the UK? They think they have special rights over England.. isn't it time we were able to prosecute these fraudsters in a civil court?
The rules are very very simple. If a TV licence officer knocks on your door ignore them. You are not legally obliged to talk to them. Ignore all their letters. Don't communicate with them as this is what they rely on. People incriminating themselves
I went through this palaver when I stopped watching TV, letters were sent that got more threatening. Some idiot actually called at my address, I wasn't in so they left a card to inform me they'd called. The card was fairly intimidating, in the end I went on line to let them know I wasn't watching or receiving any TV signal. I prefer watching channels like this,more entertaining!
I get these letters all the time, I ignore them. I am not spending money to reply to them, so if they want a reply stick a pre paid envelope in. This will lead to another problem though, can I be arsed to go and post it? I don't think so, unless they pay me for my time and effort, that will be 20 quid please.
Well done for all your efforts we really do appreciate it. I was diagnosed I’m going blind as well after I got diagnosed with cancer. So I called the TV licensing people & told them. They were very sympathetic indeed & immediately agreed to cancel my license subscription. Since then I have had never ending threatening letters addressed to not me but ‘The Occupier’ of my address. This is low level extortion tactics. So I will welcome my day in court if indeed they feel they can get me to that point by their bullying tactics…
This has been going on for decades(literally). I know this from first hand experience. It’s hard to believe there is anyone out there who is unaware of this content. But you’re doing a good job spreading the word.
Not sure if TV licensing have stopped sending letters, i've had 25 letters (on average one a month) since January 2021, last letter was May 2023, still waiting for a visit so i can shut the door, i live in South Wales btw. And i just noticed, they say i could "spread the cost, for example you could pay from £6 per week with a payment card", that's £312 per year!!! I have fishing gear, you need a license to fish in the UK, but i'm not pestered by fishing licence enforcement, i haven't been fishing for over 10 years, it's the same sort of thing
Thank you as you’ve reassured me that I can legally ignore my first letter I’ve received from tv licensing saying I’ve missed a payment. After many months of watching your videos I’ve finally plucked up the confidence to cancel my tv license in September. As someone who suffers with cPTSD I do not want to ring them to say I don’t need a license and now have the confidence to tell them to go away if they send someone to my house. Ps I won’t open the door but will speak from an upstairs window. Thank you again.
Saying you have missed a payment implies that you purchased a license on a credit agreement. Defaulting on a credit agreement can result in bailiffs at your door.
I haven't watched live TV for 12 years and ignore every letter I get from TV licencing. I haven't received a single visit from these Capita goons in all that time.
You'll have an email soon saying there's a risk of debt collectors. You have to tell them you don't need a license (just this once) or they'll assume you want one, give you one, then hound you with debt collecting bailiffs.
You only have to tell them that you don't want a licence. Debt collectors can't do anything. They can't just go to a court and say ' Morning your honour, could I have 3 warrants please? @@smike9884
You helped me. I had a Firestick on trial from early 2000, and stopped paying last year, when I was satisfied that I had everything set up and that I could see anything that I wanted to see, on catch up.
I havent had a TV license for over 4 years.... Orginally i informed them i didnt one but i still got the odd letter. Eventually i got a letter to ask if my circumstances had changed & did i require a license, i noticed that my name had been removed & was replaced by To the Legal Occupier... i didnt respond. Since Jan 2023 i have been receiving 2+ letters a month, sometimes 2 arrive at the same time. They are all addressed to the legal occupier, all have bold red writing on back & front of envelope & all make it clear to anyone who see's them what they are about. I have finally received the same letter informing me that an offical investigation would commence.... i have of course ignored that as well. What annoys me more than anything is how they are entitled to use the LAW to threaten, intimidate & scare often vunerable people into paying for somthing that the LAW say's they don't need, this makes no sense... in effect the law makrs it clear when a tv license is needed, the TV licensing do mention that in the small print at the end of the letter, yet THEY have the right to obtain permission from the LAW & with that warrant in hand & accompained by the police they have the legal right to enter my home, if i refuse to comply I will be arrested.... all of this WITHOUT any evidence of any LAW having been broken🤷🏼♀️ Is it just the TV Licensing that are WRONG in behaving this way or is the law that covers the issue as much or imo more to blame? If/when they come to gain entry with their warrant & pet police officers in tow & i'm not home, will they break in? Notice i ask will they & not can they, it seem's to me that they can do anything they want, the LAW is with them regardless of wheter i've broken the LAW or not..... that's what worries me
I gave my television away, and stopped paying the TV tax around five years ago. Until quite recently I had accumulated a large pile of these threats, but then I used them to light my woodburner. The only way to beat the BBC is to stop funding them. I recommend that everyone does exactly that.
I don't have a TV lisnance I dnt need one ,I dnt watch any trestril tv actually my antenna dosnt pick it up since the changed it,i wont be buying a new one as like 99℅ of the uk i use the internet and netflix,prime,even mgm ,bbc makes nouthung im even remotely intresyed in,but never hav i had a letter,I'm Scotland so do we have different rules?nice vid btw
I note this letter says refers to the Guildford office - I recently got a letter in Devon to say the case had been handed to the Guildford office to investigate. I hope they have a long drive on a Friday to visit just not to be spoken to.
You should have read out the last bit on that letter... It is the bit I find most amusing... If you have complied and informed them that you don't need a t v license, they reserve the right to bang on your door and check (so they're basically saying they don't believe you: they're calling you a liar). Now, the ONLY reason for I have for telling them I don't need a TV Licence is to prevent them from coming round and banging on my door... The very fact they have stated in the letter that they will STILL come round and bang on my door basically makes telling them I don’t need a licence quite pointless 😂😂😂
Just cancelled mine easily online. None of our family use iPlayer or watch live TV except for new year’s, which broadcasts are getting worse, last year was pathetic and the queens funeral. Had a chat with the family and we can do without any of these services. Will be interesting to see how bad the harassment gets even though we are cancelling legitimately. Surely the goons and excessive mail are costing more than the potential license dodgers they may catch.
The only thing I’ve ever missed is the Olympics. But that’s just a couple of weeks every 4 years. Not worth having a TV license for. We’ll cope without it
Just had a letter OFFICIAL NOTICE: INVESTIGATION OPENED visible through window does this constitute a breach of human rights, advertising standards or data protection ???
19th year licence free, Yes I used to watch catch up untill bbc closed the loophole. Since then UA-cam has provided all of my entertainment. Plus other sites for movies, episodes not shown as live etc,. And the money not spent on bbc, Well spent on other things.
Ffs does that Scott Robson ever have a day off!? Coming up for 6 years free of the propaganda tax next month and it was your earlier videos that helped remove the shackles. Thanks again CJC 💪🍻
You can't prosecute someone or take them to court if they don't know your name too....they don't know who 'The Legal Occupier' is ! Don't engage with them in any manner!! x
Anything you say maybe written down & used in a court of law. "Please Mr Enforcement officer, stop hitting me." Would love to see that read out in court. 😅
The one that turned up at my door started by saying ‘do you live here’? I had to try not to laugh and thought about saying ’actually no, I’m just robbing the place’ but I thought better of it and said ‘who’s asking’. As soon as they said tv licensing I said ‘not interested thanks’ and that was that 😊
having a TV is A kind of entrapment because when you buy a new TV it already has BBC and other live channels which you haven’t chosen and even on the remote it is printed with BBC and even Netflix which I haven’t got.I I think all TVs should be sold blank and you put in the channels that you want not what somebody else has chosen for you great Vids please keep them up
The only way I would reply to a Licence goon letter is if they included a pre-paid envelope. I would also reply as they addressed the leter to me. For example, If the letter is to 'The Occupier' I would reply 'Yours Sincerely, The Occupier" - again, only if they enclosed a pre-paid envelope.
I had the entire set send to me at my address and finally a guy came to the door, I told him I don't need it and he said "ok" and left. Then they started from the beggining except it was to "the legal occupier". I've had about 4 that claim someone is coming next wednesday, but no one has appeared yet.
He must have got his dates mixed up as he was due to come and visit me on the same day. And they are unable to address you by your surname. They haven't the faintest idea who you are. How incompetent and inefficient can they possibly get - without a lot of concerted effort and practice?
It costs money to make tv programmes. So do it via adverts or subscription, then people have a choice, it's simple. I assume you go to work and don't expect pay? Whatever works you do, the company makes money selling the product to someone, then they pay you for want of better words making the product.
I calculated that in the many years I never gave them a farthing, I denied them 6 meals at a posh restaurant and 4 visits to a massage parlour and a 243 miles taxi trip.
Had one yesterday that had the “ you are under investigation “ , large bright red letters a window that anyone could see on the envelope- another tactic to tell the world you are a “ criminal “
Got one of these letters,I stopped watching the crap and disconnected both Ariel’s from outside,these clowns were actually ringing my mobile constantly , told them to F off, and I had moved, they were still ringing
Told them we didn't need a licence in September 2020, thanks to this channel... and the fact that we weren't really watching much TV anyway. Haven't watched any live TV since then. Told them again in September 2022. We've not yet had a visit, either. I expect we'll get another 'reminder' in September 2024, but I'm not going to bother again. I shouldn't need to - they've been told twice, take the hint; we'll contact you if and when we need one... stop harassing us. I'm sure we'll get a visit after that, but I'll just follow the advice you give... say, "No thanks!" and close the door. Waste your time and energy getting a warrant; if you turn up with the police to serve it, I'll take great pleasure in seeing you look like an ass when you see we have 3 TVs but no receiving or recording equipment.
If they are so worried people are watching without a licence why don't they just put it behind a pay wall. ...because they can't bully anyone to buying one if not required then 😤
Does anyone remember the decryption card slot on TV's about 10 years ago? (CAM slot?) This would have made it so they could put behind a paywall but the BBC actively stopped it.
I had the same letter yesterday… weird isn’t it. When I first cancelled the confirmation was quite cordial. Then I received a cheque for a refund. Then two letters that we’re becoming more threatening. Then this one yesterday, giving me 7 days or ‘they’ll be back!’ 😮
So if you let them in and they find a Television , is that automatic prosecution ? just curious as i wonder how people end up in court .id never answer the door to these Salesmen by the way ,how do they actually catch you watching live TV look through your window or what ?
This is the issue.If you can be prooved to have any equipment in your house that is able to pick up "live" tv even if you dont choose to you can be done.Its basically a tax remember much like you had to pay window tax and then brick tax in the 17 hundreds.Its archaic and wrong.I can watch "live" tv on my phone anywhere at anytime with a wifi hook up.The BBC are dinasours nowadays.
@@GlennPowell-ls3lg As I have said above you can have any equipment that can pick up live tv without needing a licence - it is only an offence if you watch or record live tv or BBC iPlayer.
@@GlennPowell-ls3lg With all the different forms of technology and entertainment there are these days, fewer and fewer people are watching TV. As you say, the BBC are dinosaurs.
A lot of people just admit it or they say they only watch sky. There is still a high level of misunderstanding what the TV Licence is needed for. If they can see the TV from your doorstep through a window that might be a reason to get a warrant if the owner has then denied watching TV. If you do let them in, they would ask you to plug in your TV and they try to prove that you can watch live TV, merely observing the presence of a TV is not enough for a prosecution. It may not be exactly as I said, that’s just a short summary of what might happen, it’s never that simple.
Don’t sign their “form.” It is YOUR PROSECUTION DOCUMENT! Don’t talk - careless talk can be used as evidence against you and your prosecution in court.
I’ve been license free for 21 years. I’ve also been in the final stages of investigation. Must be the best of the best really investigating me. Maybe they will work out after 21 years I’m not legally called the occupier.
I agree no other business could get away with it, I would love to see a case againt them get to court for harassment. I'm sure there must be a solicitor out there somewhere who could handle it!
I've had 2 of those in-between a load of others of various types. I've kept them all. I know when I get check to see when I last had the same one. At this rate I'll have enough duplicate letters for a game of snap.
My mum was blind for last 2 yrs of her life. The last licence was in my dads name who died previous year. 94 yrs old got letters whilst she was alive and blind and still coming to the house now dead. I wrote a letter saying she was registered blind and didn’t have a tv. Still didn’t stop their despicable behaviour. I didn’t tell my mum as even blind she would have been scared at 94 and just bought one because she listened to the radio. Must be so many people this causes anxiety to. Govt have just said they have to stop sending people to prison so tv licence evasion will hardly have an effect. I can see the general public will stop paying any fines … tv, speeding, ulez blah blah. The worm is turning. Persecute the English and invite and hotel foreigners. IAM really surprised that their “officers” don’t get attacked as a reasonable response to harassment. I have a collection of about 50. Why should it been in our lives
I've been investigated more times than Jack the Ripper, and they don't even know my name yet!
At least the people who investigate the Ripper from time to time have a possible name in mind, even if they never have enough evidence to provide 100% proof.
Ah so your Mr Legal Occupier
Same here. I've been at the "Final Stages" of an investigation twice. And I'm still "Mr. Legal Occupier." 😂
We've had 3 investigations at this address this year . On each occasion Inspector Clouseau 🔎 failed to get any money out of us .
They're fighting a losing battle, Jon, and they're _DESPERATE_
Keep it up, matey 👍
How can they not get taken to court for intimidation and threatening behaviour? Its a disgrace
They're acting on behalf of a government agency, so they'll always get a pass.
They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
They do it on the edge of a crime and have lawyers who if you take em to court will ensure you pay £100 k plus for the privilege so you will end up so in debt your life ruined. Hence why people don't do it. MPs just don't care
Malicious Communications Act 1988
It Illegal to ""send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety"
Someone just need the money to fight them in court over it, Under the TV licensing legislation, they are allowed to inform people about the law.......but the Malicious Communications Act means they are not allowed to cause distress by doing so.
@@Tommy-he7dx Capita will have some professional, not "barrack room" lawyers, who advise them that their letters break no laws. These letters are wrong, of course, but many things that are wrong are also legal.
Any money spent challenging them in court would most probably be wasted.
Thanks to you I am now in my 3rd year without buying a license,thank you Chilli and I watch all your videos
Ditto,thanks to John £500 quid better off ,just wish I had done it 30 years ago.
Thanks Jon for all the useful advice. Your output is invaluable.
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I haven't paid that awful TV LICENCE for 5 yrs, I don't miss the TV at all.👏👏👏👏👏🏴🏴🏴🏴
@@eileenpritchard9154 nor me you tube for me .👍
It's a good few years now for me. I've had a few visits since not redeclaring no licence needed but no follow up. I took CJ's advice and simply said, "No thanks" and shut the door. I installed a video doorbell, though, in case of an attempted stitch-up.
They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
They must have spent thousands of pounds on letters and postage they have sent to me over 15 years. Every one... Straight in the bin.
Keeps the Royal Mail in a job 😂 and well done for saving all that idiot licence fee money!! I wish I had done the same.
Literally any other company would be in court for these 'extortion with menaces' policies.
DO NOT PAY!
that is very true, the BBC have a Government exception to harass.
I remember as a kid in the 70'S the TV vans going around all the houses. I asked my dad what are the vans. He said to scare people. But there isn't anything inside. As a kid, I had to find out. I waited until the van's back doors were about to open. I saw fully inside the van and all I saw was a table with a man sitting at it. nothing else
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I think they had to have a bloke in the back to manually turn the probably equally fake antenna menacingly. I remember from somewhere someone saying they got a very close look into the back of one of the vans, and it had plenty of equipment, but just random looking stuff, some even totally irrelevant,and nothing properly connected, just to look 'technical' enough through the darkened windows if caught stationary. I believe some of the hand-portable kit, with the smaller yagi antenna, was the real deal though, useful for close-up detection of the frequencies that CRT tellies generated to create the picture.
Could have been worse: you could have opened the van door and seen some dude on the toilet 😉
@@eileenpritchard9154 It was possible to detect old-school TVs, but those days are long-gone.
The yagi antenna you describe was actually made from wood😂
I have been without a licence since May and I have had two letters so far and to be honest if I had not watched your video's I may have been frightened by these threatening letters but your video's have given me courage to stand my ground. I've even had a visit from one of the goons, well two actually, one was training the other by the looks of things on my door video bell. I wasn't in so didn't speak to them but if it happens again I know what to do. Thank you Jon for the work you put into these video's.
Bully boy corporation...BBC 😮
I follow the rules and don't watch anything I shouldn't. Cancelled my DD around 5 months ago. Several letters and 3 knocks. I answered today and he just asked if I was the homeowner no self ID. I asked who he was and when he briefly flashed a card I said no thank you and closed the door. He stood for a few seconds and shouted through a closed door ..so are you saying you don't need a TV licence❓ I obvs didn't reply, but it did shake me up more than I thought it would. He was very grumpy ☹️
You'll get the exact same letters again early next year , they send the same row of letters out one after the other on a loop . I've got 12 years of letters saved in a big pile (I love receiving them) .
@@cassandrade-wolfe6926 Watch anything you want there's nothing they can do about it , just don't be stupid by letting them inside the house . He'd be grumpy because he missed out the bonus he'd have got if he'd got you to buy a licence .
@@jonkerr7667
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That's exactly what my Son said to me ...🙂
I stopped him getting his commission 😂
I've been license free for 11 months, and have received 4 letters in this time. They did a no license needed over the phone. I'm not sure about the first letter , but the rest are addressed to The Legal Occupier. I open, read, then rip up. I'll never pay the TV tax again, thanks to this channel!
I only cancelled the direct debit, as I'm planning on stopping paying next year. Two weeks after canceling the direct debit we have received both email and a letter reminding that we must have the direct debit so we are legally licensed.
@pazoia2789 Well Done. Cheeky Beggars. 😊😂
It's a good few years now for me. I've had a few visits since not redeclaring no licence needed but no follow up. I took CJ's advice and simply said, "No thanks" and shut the door. I installed a video doorbell, though, in case of an attempted stitch-up.
They get away with these letters because they are legal. They shouldn't be, but they are. They have to be, otherwise Capita would have had their collars felt. In no way, though, are they moral or decent but since when did a company like Capita ever care about morality or decency? The same attitudes trickle down to the poor saps they employ to frighten people at their front doors for a bit of commission to boost their miserable salaries.
I did the no license needed call two years ago and since then I've just received threatening letter number 28 what other company would the shit politicians allow it. I've stopped shopping at Tesco's but they don't send me threatening letter's
get used to a sheet of toilet paper every month.
It happened to me a few years ago. I had a goon visit and i was a fool and invited her in to chat. I showed her i didn't have my tv tuned into live broadcast and she got me to sign something. I thought that would be the end of it.....a few weeks later i get summoned to court for watching tv without a licence. I had a recording of the goon's entire talk to me and i took this with me. Good job i did as stuff was indeed added to the form i had signed. Stuff that i had unplugged the aerial when i saw her arriving. This was a lie. But i said that i didn't watch live broadcast and so unplugged the aerial lead. I showed her. She changed it later to i unplugged it when i saw her arriving. Lucky i made the recording and the judge dropped all charges.
My advice is when a goon calls either don't answer or tell them you are not interested and close the door. Do not get into a conversation with them. Do not let them in and most important ....DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING
Thank you for that advice.
You can withdraw their "implied" right of access to your property in writing.
After you serve the notice, because they don't have police or bailiff powers, they can not legally enter your property as that would be trespassing.
And because they're trespassing, any "evidence" they obtain would be thrown out of court because it was illegally obtained.
I'm not a lawyer, though this is advice I've seen given from people dealing with the same issues.
Good advice.. thanks
Right on point re warrants. Another Interesting point here… if the interview is under caution, are they not offering access to PACE codes, free legal advice, etc.? Failure to do so would usually render the interview inadmissible. No one is obliged to say anything. If they are referring to the caution, they should make this clear - as part of the caution - “You do not have to say anything …”
Appreciate that re pace. Not really up to speed on it.
Can’t even remember what was said in this one if I’m honest. Must be 3 years old.
I've been ignoring them for more than 15 years.
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I am a 81 year old ‘occupier’ have not had a licence for years,am on pension credit so exempt,they don’t know that though,never watch any of there rubbish, totally corrupt anyway,they can piss off.
I would bet my life that they DO KNOW that you receive pension credit because Capita and all the government departments have reciprocal info sharing arrangements. I know this because when my mother died, who had a free over 80 licence at that time it only took them six weeks to start sending the harrassment letters to her address. Capita had got the info from DWP. My local MP, Andrew Gwynne, brought this up in parliament but was basically fobbed off.
Iv been licence free for over 4 years now thank you chilly, I recived one of these letters the other day I said dear me as I tore it up and put it in the bin.. 🤣
I live in a flat. My favourite was a call from the entry phone asking me if the block had a communal licence. I replied that I had no idea as I did not have a TV ( I am probably the only occupier without a licence.) I suggested that that he should ask the house manager. I later discovered that she sent him away with a flea in his ear. I have not had a TV for over 20 years and got fed up with returniing the letters so now I bin then unopened. At least with this channel I know what I am missing!
Keep returning the letters "Freepost" please .. that way it costs them money. Then you are doing all of us a great favour!
17 years license free, keep up the good work and freeing more from the fear of shackles that is worrying about the antiquated and arguably redundant license fee
Yep why is the U.K. stuck with a complicated system. Complications that can leave people confused. Why don’t you fund your National Broadcaster from tax.😊
@@davecooper3238 It is all about making money through fakery. Why is it that I have to fight so hard just to tell some creepy organisation I DONT NEED YOUR LICENCE!
I had one of those last week. What fun. I still wonder what the turnover of door to door salespeople is as more and more people realise how to deal with these people and they find an easer way to make money. The BlackBelt Barrister had a video on this the other week say, unless I have misunderstood what he said, was that the BBC have a get out clause in law, so are able to continue sending these letters.
The BBC do not send those letters or arrange visits.
Let’s face it, it’s probably the last few years of public service broadcasting as we know it, less and less people are watching live Tv, especially BBC and ITV etc, it’s just not how we consume our tv viewing anymore, a serious debate needs to be had around Tv licensing, broadcasting in general, and revenue streams, even SKY are seeing falling subscribers over the past number of years, Tv is just becoming out of date medium with younger generations, who are certainly not interested in anything BBC pump out across the airwaves.
"And even if you do tell us you don't need a TV license we might still come round anyway to make sure you're not lying."
Where is my incentive to bother replying?
I now have thirteen letters from TV licencing on my noticeboard (one per month) awaiting my first goon visit. I will do as you suggest - "no thank you' and close the door. BUT I will also record this interaction as they can and will lie about any conversation in an attempt to gain a search warrant. If I have evidence of what I have not said then that can be used in evidence against the goons. Is this worth mentioning in your videos? Keep smiling Jon!
why even open the door to them in the first place ?
They just send the same row of letters out over n' over again , on a loop .
If I ever open the door to one, it'll be by mistake, thinking it's someone else for some other reason. That could easily happen, but I won't be worried about recording anything. They have no more power to obtain a search warrant on me for no reason at all, than any completely random other person.
I've been getting these letters for around 25 years now. That's a lot of 'investigations'.
Have received four goon visits over that time, but all were sent packing. 🤣
I got one today as well, big stamp at the bottom 'Enforcement officer visit approved' signed by Scott Robson.
I'll file it away with the other dozen letters.
I wonder if Scott Robson actually exists.
@@englishciderlover7347😂
Scott Robson .. which tv licencing office does he belong to?
We have Gordon Smith .. now Ross McTaggart Darlington DL98 1AT .. they even say on the back "Return Address!"
I got exactly the same letter about 6 months ago, and still no-one has called. Being retired, I'm at home the vast majority of the time so it's unlikely they would have missed me 🤣
They cannot afford to send letters and call at every property like they pretend they will, they just hope the letters( I have had dozens over the last 4 years) will frighten you into paying for something you don't need and didn't ask for
I do not even open them. I just send them back to their Darlington post code.
Capita have an arrangement where these are just destroyed so no point. Best to forward to your MP asking why their government permits the BBC to send intimidating correspondence to those who are entirely legal.
Still waiting for a visit,I will video it mate and hope I get a 10 out of 10 when I send you the vid :)
They have entered the final stage of investigating my address about 6 times since I cancelled the direct debit (without informing them of course because, - f**k 'em). No-one has ever chapped my door - mind you, living in the northwest Scottish Highlands probably helps. I was going to save all the letters and send them in bulk back to their Dundee address for a wind up, but using them to light the stove was a better economic decision.
I have been without a licence now for 8 months. I did not send them a 'no licence required' letter, but just went to the bank and rescinded the standing order to the BBC. JOB DONE!
Exactly. Zero contact.
Sadly the Blackbelt Barrister says they are allowed to send scary harassing letters out and get away with it, so much for the law.
😂 he works for the fraudulent bar, his whole career is based on lies.
Laws, dating back to the days of Magna Cata are designed with the rich in mind - not an ounce is ever given to the poor. Later these laws extended to protect businesses too.
@@metalicminer6231 I'd be careful if I was you Haha
@@TonklinFallen Yawn.
@@noelward8047 why, ? The City of London isn't part of the UK? They think they have special rights over England.. isn't it time we were able to prosecute these fraudsters in a civil court?
The rules are very very simple. If a TV licence officer knocks on your door ignore them. You are not legally obliged to talk to them. Ignore all their letters. Don't communicate with them as this is what they rely on. People incriminating themselves
CAPITA...... ANKERS!!!!!!!
I went through this palaver when I stopped watching TV, letters were sent that got more threatening. Some idiot actually called at my address, I wasn't in so they left a card to inform me they'd called. The card was fairly intimidating, in the end I went on line to let them know I wasn't watching or receiving any TV signal. I prefer watching channels like this,more entertaining!
I get these letters all the time, I ignore them. I am not spending money to reply to them, so if they want a reply stick a pre paid envelope in. This will lead to another problem though, can I be arsed to go and post it? I don't think so, unless they pay me for my time and effort, that will be 20 quid please.
Well done for all your efforts we really do appreciate it.
I was diagnosed I’m going blind as well after I got diagnosed with cancer.
So I called the TV licensing people & told them.
They were very sympathetic indeed & immediately agreed to cancel my license subscription.
Since then I have had never ending threatening letters addressed to not me but ‘The Occupier’ of my address.
This is low level extortion tactics.
So I will welcome my day in court if indeed they feel they can get me to that point by their bullying tactics…
Visit has been authorised, the latest letter to be. It just doesn’t seem to cross the bbc s mind, that not all of us watch tv. Knickers to them
The BBC don’t send the letters.
@@davecooper3238 eh, they still hire the company that does. I still blame 'em.
@@Torthrodhel They don’t. The Government does.
This has been going on for decades(literally). I know this from first hand experience. It’s hard to believe there is anyone out there who is unaware of this content. But you’re doing a good job spreading the word.
It is not a TV licence , it is a BBC subscription
Not sure if TV licensing have stopped sending letters, i've had 25 letters (on average one a month) since January 2021, last letter was May 2023, still waiting for a visit so i can shut the door, i live in South Wales btw.
And i just noticed, they say i could "spread the cost, for example you could pay from £6 per week with a payment card", that's £312 per year!!!
I have fishing gear, you need a license to fish in the UK, but i'm not pestered by fishing licence enforcement, i haven't been fishing for over 10 years, it's the same sort of thing
Got this very letter this week. I’ve been license free for 2 yrs and I’ve had a letter every month without fail. Keep your videos coming Jon.
Sadly a lot of people would rather just pay than have to even consider dealing with this type of stuff.
Thank you as you’ve reassured me that I can legally ignore my first letter I’ve received from tv licensing saying I’ve missed a payment. After many months of watching your videos I’ve finally plucked up the confidence to cancel my tv license in September. As someone who suffers with cPTSD I do not want to ring them to say I don’t need a license and now have the confidence to tell them to go away if they send someone to my house. Ps I won’t open the door but will speak from an upstairs window. Thank you again.
Saying you have missed a payment implies that you purchased a license on a credit agreement. Defaulting on a credit agreement can result in bailiffs at your door.
I haven't watched live TV for 12 years and ignore every letter I get from TV licencing. I haven't received a single visit from these Capita goons in all that time.
I finally cancelled my direct debit for the TV Licence yesterday.
You'll have an email soon saying there's a risk of debt collectors. You have to tell them you don't need a license (just this once) or they'll assume you want one, give you one, then hound you with debt collecting bailiffs.
Fantastic!! dont engage with them/dont go onto their No Licence Needed scheme as it helps their admin.
@@smike9884 Rubbish. You can't incur a debt unless your consented and signed agreement.
You only have to tell them that you don't want a licence. Debt collectors can't do anything. They can't just go to a court and say ' Morning your honour, could I have 3 warrants please? @@smike9884
Im not super well verse in UK law but i would think this falls under (or at least should) the criteria for alarm harassment and distress...
I had yet another one of those today, went back in the post box with "Not required EVER" written on the front return to sender no stamp
I've had a monthly threatogram for the past 4.5 years and 4 of these letters. I'm still waiting for an "officer" to call!
You helped me. I had a Firestick on trial from early 2000, and stopped paying last year, when I was satisfied that I had everything set up and that I could see anything that I wanted to see, on catch up.
I havent had a TV license for over 4 years.... Orginally i informed them i didnt one but i still got the odd letter.
Eventually i got a letter to ask if my circumstances had changed & did i require a license, i noticed that my name had been removed & was replaced by To the Legal Occupier... i didnt respond.
Since Jan 2023 i have been receiving 2+ letters a month, sometimes 2 arrive at the same time. They are all addressed to the legal occupier, all have bold red writing on back & front of envelope & all make it clear to anyone who see's them what they are about.
I have finally received the same letter informing me that an offical investigation would commence.... i have of course ignored that as well.
What annoys me more than anything is how they are entitled to use the LAW to threaten, intimidate & scare often vunerable people into paying for somthing that the LAW say's they don't need, this makes no sense... in effect the law makrs it clear when a tv license is needed, the TV licensing do mention that in the small print at the end of the letter, yet THEY have the right to obtain permission from the LAW & with that warrant in hand & accompained by the police they have the legal right to enter my home, if i refuse to comply I will be arrested.... all of this WITHOUT any evidence of any LAW having been broken🤷🏼♀️
Is it just the TV Licensing that are WRONG in behaving this way or is the law that covers the issue as much or imo more to blame?
If/when they come to gain entry with their warrant & pet police officers in tow & i'm not home, will they break in?
Notice i ask will they & not can they, it seem's to me that they can do anything they want, the LAW is with them regardless of wheter i've broken the LAW or not..... that's what worries me
I gave my television away, and stopped paying the TV tax around five years ago. Until quite recently I had accumulated a large pile of these threats, but then I used them to light my woodburner. The only way to beat the BBC is to stop funding them. I recommend that everyone does exactly that.
I have a sign on my door stating “no cold callers” so they shouldn’t even ring my bell
I don't have a TV lisnance I dnt need one ,I dnt watch any trestril tv actually my antenna dosnt pick it up since the changed it,i wont be buying a new one as like 99℅ of the uk i use the internet and netflix,prime,even mgm ,bbc makes nouthung im even remotely intresyed in,but never hav i had a letter,I'm Scotland so do we have different rules?nice vid btw
I note this letter says refers to the Guildford office - I recently got a letter in Devon to say the case had been handed to the Guildford office to investigate. I hope they have a long drive on a Friday to visit just not to be spoken to.
You should have read out the last bit on that letter... It is the bit I find most amusing...
If you have complied and informed them that you don't need a t v license, they reserve the right to bang on your door and check (so they're basically saying they don't believe you: they're calling you a liar).
Now, the ONLY reason for I have for telling them I don't need a TV Licence is to prevent them from coming round and banging on my door...
The very fact they have stated in the letter that they will STILL come round and bang on my door basically makes telling them I don’t need a licence quite pointless 😂😂😂
Same old EMPTY THREATENING CRAP LETTERS ! 🤣
Don't even say "No thanks".
Just remain completely silent (that *really* pisses them off 😁), and wait for them to stalk off in a huff.
What do they do on thier final stages of the investigation 😬😧😮💨😳🤣😂
They write their letters in a bigger typeface.
Got the same letter on Monday John,straight in bin.
Just cancelled mine easily online. None of our family use iPlayer or watch live TV except for new year’s, which broadcasts are getting worse, last year was pathetic and the queens funeral. Had a chat with the family and we can do without any of these services. Will be interesting to see how bad the harassment gets even though we are cancelling legitimately.
Surely the goons and excessive mail are costing more than the potential license dodgers they may catch.
The only thing I’ve ever missed is the Olympics. But that’s just a couple of weeks every 4 years. Not worth having a TV license for. We’ll cope without it
Just had a letter OFFICIAL NOTICE: INVESTIGATION OPENED visible through window does this constitute a breach of human rights, advertising standards or data protection ???
Nope except for all of that, our Government made sure of it!
No.
19th year licence free, Yes I used to watch catch up untill bbc closed the loophole. Since then UA-cam has provided all of my entertainment. Plus other sites for movies, episodes not shown as live etc,. And the money not spent on bbc, Well spent on other things.
I had one of those months ago and I’m still waiting!!!!
Same,I think the BBC know they have pretty much lost the fight :)
i just stopped my direct debit......sod`em`....why should my money line the pockets of that lot
Had this letter months ago, still waiting for a goon 🤣
Ffs does that Scott Robson ever have a day off!?
Coming up for 6 years free of the propaganda tax next month and it was your earlier videos that helped remove the shackles. Thanks again CJC 💪🍻
You can't prosecute someone or take them to court if they don't know your name too....they don't know who 'The Legal Occupier' is ! Don't engage with them in any manner!! x
Anything you say maybe written down & used in a court of law.
"Please Mr Enforcement officer, stop hitting me."
Would love to see that read out in court. 😅
The one that turned up at my door started by saying ‘do you live here’? I had to try not to laugh and thought about saying ’actually no, I’m just robbing the place’ but I thought better of it and said ‘who’s asking’. As soon as they said tv licensing I said ‘not interested thanks’ and that was that 😊
Had lots of these letters, just put them in the bin.
having a TV is A kind of entrapment because when you buy a new TV it already has BBC and other live channels which you haven’t chosen and even on the remote it is printed with BBC and even Netflix which I haven’t got.I I think all TVs should be sold blank and you put in the channels that you want not what somebody else has chosen for you great Vids please keep them up
It would be less depressing if they actually had done any investigation work at all, as opposed to just posting off bulk mailings.
The only way I would reply to a Licence goon letter is if they included a pre-paid envelope.
I would also reply as they addressed the leter to me.
For example, If the letter is to 'The Occupier' I would reply 'Yours Sincerely, The Occupier" - again, only if they enclosed a pre-paid envelope.
I have a cardboard box by my front door and all these letters go straight in UNOPENED 🏴
I had the entire set send to me at my address and finally a guy came to the door, I told him I don't need it and he said "ok" and left. Then they started from the beggining except it was to "the legal occupier". I've had about 4 that claim someone is coming next wednesday, but no one has appeared yet.
He must have got his dates mixed up as he was due to come and visit me on the same day. And they are unable to address you by your surname. They haven't the faintest idea who you are. How incompetent and inefficient can they possibly get - without a lot of concerted effort and practice?
I've gone full circle mate. I've gone from 'final stages' back to 'an investigation has been opened'
It's just amusing at this point.
We should not need to pay to watch anything.....
It costs money to make tv programmes. So do it via adverts or subscription, then people have a choice, it's simple. I assume you go to work and don't expect pay? Whatever works you do, the company makes money selling the product to someone, then they pay you for want of better words making the product.
@@stuartb4525It will not cost a penny if the disgusting BBC were to be closed down.
You choose what you pay to watch..... i choose not to pay the BBC
You paid because you wanted to. Remember that
@@MikeEvesLots of people pay because of the threats. That includes people who do not watch broadcast TV.
We remember that.
Got this letter today, ripped it up and threw it in the bin
Yes I got the final stage letter last week.
Again.
I calculated that in the many years I never gave them a farthing, I denied them 6 meals at a posh restaurant and 4 visits to a massage parlour and a 243 miles taxi trip.
Had one yesterday that had the “ you are under investigation “ , large bright red letters a window that anyone could see on the envelope- another tactic to tell the world you are a “ criminal “
Got one of these letters,I stopped watching the crap and disconnected both Ariel’s from outside,these clowns were actually ringing my mobile constantly , told them to F off, and I had moved, they were still ringing
BBC so bad now. There has to be better deal.
I have lost count of how many of those letters i have received and just throw them in the bid.
Yay, the white envelope just dropped through my letterbox as I watch this!
Been license free for over 3 years,and in that time, I had so many letters. Chucked aĺl straight in the Bin.The BBC discuss me to my very core
Told them we didn't need a licence in September 2020, thanks to this channel... and the fact that we weren't really watching much TV anyway. Haven't watched any live TV since then. Told them again in September 2022. We've not yet had a visit, either. I expect we'll get another 'reminder' in September 2024, but I'm not going to bother again. I shouldn't need to - they've been told twice, take the hint; we'll contact you if and when we need one... stop harassing us.
I'm sure we'll get a visit after that, but I'll just follow the advice you give... say, "No thanks!" and close the door. Waste your time and energy getting a warrant; if you turn up with the police to serve it, I'll take great pleasure in seeing you look like an ass when you see we have 3 TVs but no receiving or recording equipment.
If they are so worried people are watching without a licence why don't they just put it behind a pay wall. ...because they can't bully anyone to buying one if not required then 😤
Does anyone remember the decryption card slot on TV's about 10 years ago? (CAM slot?) This would have made it so they could put behind a paywall but the BBC actively stopped it.
I had the same letter yesterday… weird isn’t it. When I first cancelled the confirmation was quite cordial. Then I received a cheque for a refund. Then two letters that we’re becoming more threatening. Then this one yesterday, giving me 7 days or ‘they’ll be back!’ 😮
So if you let them in and they find a Television , is that automatic prosecution ? just curious as i wonder how people end up in court .id never answer the door to these Salesmen by the way ,how do they actually catch you watching live TV look through your window or what ?
This is the issue.If you can be prooved to have any equipment in your house that is able to pick up "live" tv even if you dont choose to you can be done.Its basically a tax remember much like you had to pay window tax and then brick tax in the 17 hundreds.Its archaic and wrong.I can watch "live" tv on my phone anywhere at anytime with a wifi hook up.The BBC are dinasours nowadays.
@@GlennPowell-ls3lg As I have said above you can have any equipment that can pick up live tv without needing a licence - it is only an offence if you watch or record live tv or BBC iPlayer.
@@GlennPowell-ls3lg With all the different forms of technology and entertainment there are these days, fewer and fewer people are watching TV. As you say, the BBC are dinosaurs.
That's my point entirely @@mda5003
A lot of people just admit it or they say they only watch sky. There is still a high level of misunderstanding what the TV Licence is needed for. If they can see the TV from your doorstep through a window that might be a reason to get a warrant if the owner has then denied watching TV. If you do let them in, they would ask you to plug in your TV and they try to prove that you can watch live TV, merely observing the presence of a TV is not enough for a prosecution. It may not be exactly as I said, that’s just a short summary of what might happen, it’s never that simple.
Don’t sign their “form.”
It is YOUR PROSECUTION DOCUMENT!
Don’t talk - careless talk can be used as evidence against you and your prosecution in court.
I’ve been license free for 21 years. I’ve also been in the final stages of investigation. Must be the best of the best really investigating me. Maybe they will work out after 21 years I’m not legally called the occupier.
The 'final stage' is...another letter....
I agree no other business could get away with it, I would love to see a case againt them get to court for harassment. I'm sure there must be a solicitor out there somewhere who could handle it!
nope, they are except from this by the Government.
@@robtheplod I wonder if there has ever been a government that doesn't consider itself and its mates above its own laws?
It's number 17 and they are watching columbo.
3 Years clean.
I've had 2 of those in-between a load of others of various types. I've kept them all. I know when I get check to see when I last had the same one. At this rate I'll have enough duplicate letters for a game of snap.
It’s harassment
They can tell you've been watching BBC iplayer, cos of the internet address.
They must be breaking A LAW with threatening letters like this surely?
Apparently not.
This is a very helpful video gratefully information
Legal gangsters
My mum was blind for last 2 yrs of her life. The last licence was in my dads name who died previous year. 94 yrs old got letters whilst she was alive and blind and still coming to the house now dead. I wrote a letter saying she was registered blind and didn’t have a tv. Still didn’t stop their despicable behaviour. I didn’t tell my mum as even blind she would have been scared at 94 and just bought one because she listened to the radio. Must be so many people this causes anxiety to. Govt have just said they have to stop sending people to prison so tv licence evasion will hardly have an effect. I can see the general public will stop paying any fines … tv, speeding, ulez blah blah. The worm is turning. Persecute the English and invite and hotel foreigners. IAM really surprised that their “officers” don’t get attacked as a reasonable response to harassment. I have a collection of about 50. Why should it been in our lives
Why do you say "persecute the English"? What's that got to do with TV licence thugs?