After nearly a year of trying I have just managed to persuade my employer (a small business owner) to cancel our office TV license. We have 2 big TVs on the wall that only show phone stats etc and he was staunchly of the opinion that we needed a TV license because of that. When I pointed out to him that we only needed to pay for a license if we watched live TV, he refused to believe me at first until I showed him this channel. He's been blindly paying it for years because he'd fallen for BBC & Capita's misinformation & false narratives.
From what you are saying then , this so-called licence , should be called 'Live TV Transmission' Licence ❗🤔 That would be a more accurate way to call this TV licence fleecing scam 😡
@@luckylimbo4816 If they are watching live broadcasts on any channel (even the non-BBC channels) then they would still need a license unfortunately. It's daft but they are the rules unfortunately.
@ChrisWilliams-ew2qx Not just daft, but a scam. If I only watch Coronation Street on I.T.V. I have to pay B.B.C for the privilege. They usedto say it pays for the transmitters. I watch the grand prix live at the weekend on broadband and I am expected to pay the B.B.C. licence fee just for that.
@@keithmarshall7715it might have made sense in the 1940’s, but today that transmission network (if you even use it) is paid for by the ad revenue. It’s just a tax, albeit for a service most people don’t want or need.
Is a bit of a backlash from people who are paying for a licence. At the same time seeing people saying. I have not bought a license for years but it has not stopped my TV working. It’s obviously that as far as the license goes people can’t be trusted. Funding the National Broadcaster from tax would put a stop to the cheating.
I contacted the police to make a report of harassment against them after receiving 3 letters in one week after their system made a mistake (to which they admitted after the fact). The police told me that "This is not a police matter". I asked them if they were confirming that harassment is not a police matter and they could not answer. I asked them why it would be a police matter if I were to send 3 unwanted threatening letters to someone's address, and again they weren't prepared to answer. Insane.
Police didn't arrest a single pro Hamas protester throughout Britain either. The BBC probably buys them, same as the House of Saud buys our police chiefs and politicians.
Not strictly true.... they take you to court for non payment of a fine after they establish you do require a licence..... if you dont use their services then no threat and no chance of prosecution.
Aggressively threatening people along with harassment for money they are under no obligation to pay is a criminal offence, no other company would get away with it. I'd love to see someone privately prosecute them.
If one of their goons call on me i totally refuse to be polite to them. Why would i want to be polite to someone who works for a company who send me threatening letter's. I have two words for them it's the same two words I've got for our crap politicians the first one starts with an F
How do they get away with this.? That is a very good question.No other company in this country would get away with this form of intimidation. It is cruel and could cause someone who is very timid and easily scared to take their life if they do not believe they have the funds to pay this tax.The BBC are beyond shame. It is disgraceful. 😡😡
They are legally allowed to by the Government. When it comes to obtaining money for the TV tax anything goes it seems,, i would like more coverage of these on mainstream news though.
The Tories always suggest an unemployed person could live off that for a week. They run away before you mention the words, rent, gas, electric.... the BBC need to give it for free, as it is them who want us to watch it, not other way round.
@@Lee_303 not to mention clothes , shoes , bedding , haircut , lawnmower use , TV license ,bus fares , window cleaner , the latter could be why you see student flats with dirty windows
They make you pay the entire licence in 6 months so the instalment is double, then it reduces to the normal rate so you remain 6 months ahead. This makes it much harder for people initially buying a licence, but it means a refund is due once you no longer need a licence as long as you inform TVL. Stopping your direct debit without telling them leaves you licenced for another 6 months with no refund.
@@pjcnetPeople have been caught out by obtaining a six month license arranging to pay by monthly instalments. Stopping payments after a couple of months does not cancel the license. Just leaves them in default on their credit payments.
Thanks for this Jon … Awaiting my monthly notification … not paid licence for 5 years now lots of £££ saved 👍 really feel sorry for elderly people and people with mental health issues that would feel very threatened by these disgusting notices .How they are allowed to get away with sending them is absolutely terrible.
We’re waiting for ours as well. They seem to go through a cycle. A red envelope, dire, then we’re opening an investigation, then threats, then almost begging well with the normal dire warnings. I suppose I should have kept some so see how many different one there are but unfortunately 'Shreddy' gets hungry and wants feeding. Main course and dessert as we get it in Welsh as well. No, like you, we don’t need a license. No, we don’t watch live television. What I want to know is how come this isn’t harassment?
I've had loads of those letters threatening to visit me, I've filed all of them in the bin, and never yet had a visit. If I did I'd just ignore it, there's no law that requires a person to open the door just because people knock.
I had IN010O0A38 arrive this morning. Handy, as I had just dripped some coffee on the kitchen work surface and I wiped it away with the letter. I've just checked, and apart from the IN number, everything else was identical.
I'm a postman and as well as receiving one of these letters myself I must of delivered hundreds and hundreds of these letters this week on my delivery, I was really surprised how many address no longer have a TV licence, more and more people are cancelling. And it's not just my delivery all the other postmen in my office were delivering hundreds of these letters, if I had to put an estimate on the amount we received in the office to deliver then it must be close to 30 thousand.
Cheers Jon. Got an IN01O0 NOTICE this morning , thet might come to my door but I'll treat them as scammers and just say NO THANKS ! But many thanks for your advice and your heads up on this shit.
I got that same letter at the weekend and it still makes me laugh how Scott Robson seems to get around the UK so much. He deals with Maidstone and around Kent, Essex and even the Mid West 😂
@@MajorGowan1982 He was in Oxford recently too, counting down 10 days before he prosecuted me, or something, while listing "visit temporarily on hold". Still waiting to meet the guy, although I suspect like many other things Capita, it's just a lie.
Its interesting how the same company ‘CAPITA’ who create these letters & send their Plastic ‘Enforcement Officers’ are the same one working for Transport For London demanding money from drivers of ‘non-compliant’ vehicles. Such a horrible company!
Thanks for that. I have never read one of these offensive letters, once I see the "TV Licence" bit, I just recycle. More recently, I pasted a label to "return to sender". Now, I will just label to the place that pays for the offensive material to be sent out (no stamp); BBC Publications Broadcasting House Portland Place London W1A 1AA
Don't open the door and don’t open the threatening letters simple, no stress at all lol, however that's where some of your licence fees going folks if you don’t watch tont pay!!!
But Allegedly 😉🥰🤗🤭 !!! The easiest option , and proven, is to just throw the letter in the bin unopened as a automated reaction to every letter they send, and the is not a damn thing they can do about it legally. Your problems only start when you talk or contact them. In 11 yrs I have had just 2 visits from Capita salesman at my door and apart from having some fun by " dribbling & smiling " at one of their foreign employees that freaked out before I shut my door, I have never spoken a single word to anyone involved in TV licencing. And legally they cannot do a thing about it.
Is that one of the reasons so many end up in court for noncompliance. With smart TVs, tablets, phones etc your ISP logs just what you are watching & when.
I continue to pay my tv licence fee though i rarely watch BBC channels but i did not move my licence to my present address due to the BBC wanting £20 for the transfer even though i filled out all the required info myself. Must be generating millions each year. I get these letters often and seem to worry more the older i get so thank you, it is very appreciated.
On the day I apply for employment as a TV licensing enforcer I'll know that I've reached rock bottom, and that all and any self respect and dignity I had for myself have gone.
I informed them of my "no license needed" status, I genuinely do not need a license completely legitimately. I realised I hadn't needed one for years and wished I had dumped the license years ago. I still get the letters addressed to "The Occupier". The BBC are nothing short of gangsters . I do not like pizza, never have, "Dominoes" down the road do not send me threatening letters saying I have a pizza free home and must do something about it. I still have friends who think if you own a TV you need a license. WRONG! Check if you need one now and stop paying it if you don't. I wish someone had opened my eyes earlier.
Had a letter on an empty flat asking if I would be home on a certain date. I phoned them asking for a time so I wouldn’t miss them. After 3 different people I told them if they didn’t turn up on that date I would charge them for my time. They eventually admitted it was a general letter and they would not be round. They apologised !! I told them if they send another letter without any intention or actually coming on that date I would sue them and report to the ICO.!! Not herd a thing since. If everyone does the same they will soon be made to stop this nonsense!
They use the threatening language because they're allowed to get away with it. It's time they were reined in, but don't expect the government to tighten the laws concerning such behaviour, and don't expect the police or courts to enforce the laws.
@@englishciderlover7347 I don't expect any consequences for them as they've been harassing people for a long time. I'm pretty clued on on this issue. I was just commenting on what they're doing.
I've never paid the tax, in the early days of being an adult I used to tell them I didnt need one, then when I realised you don't need to do that the letters ended up in my recylcing bin from that point forward. Never give them your name or contact details.
I always have a good laugh when I get their not so scary letters. I’ve given up watching television of any sort, I do sometimes watch You Tube stuff but most of its old stuff and none of its live. I don’t miss the news as I have a smart speaker so I can listen to that. The pizza menus and junk mail certainly make sure my shedder gets a balanced diet and the license letters are for deserts as it were. With winter not far away and the weather it brings let’s all endeavour to make sure the licensing folk get to enjoy wind and rain too, why should they miss out?
This will make you howl 😂……I kept getting these “fancy threatening “ letters. I saved them all up over a period of 3 years. I then got a letter with a massive envelope, I used said envelope and packaged all these 40 odd letters to my address and sent them all back to the tv licensing address in Darlington. Naturally I sent them back FREEPOST. Funny that…..not had any further correspondence from them. I just laugh to think at how much they must have spent in postage to my address. 😂
I have just received an IN01O0A39 today 04/10/2023. After nearly a year now, they have sent about 9 letters and knocked on my front door about three times this year. In that time they have achieved absolutely nothing, despite the threatening letters. So much for your great 'enforcement officers'. If I was Capita, I would sack the goons for failing to sell me something I don't legally require.
Lucky bastard I've had easy 25 of these letters and no one has knocked in the door. I will happily answer the door and abuse them. The letters say legal occupier they don't even know my name the goons
Btw, look closely at the form you have to sign every 2 years to get them to stop pestering you. It requires a "declaration of truth". This is common law, and they can criminally put you away if what you declare is found out to be untrue, as it's perjury. Same thing on a tax return. This is why, in this case, I wouldn't even declare anything or sign that paper work. I do the same thing with SORN. In general, I declare the bare minimum possible with all government entities, except HMRC, because if you fail to file tax returns, they can make it very difficult for your legal person (fines etc) and will ultimately eject you from their society due to non-compliance.
Did you mean you dont do SORN? I have 4 vehicles - I don't want to tax them all, I cant drive them all at the same time, and SORN is an affront to our freedom - its the same shit tactics the BBC use.
@@TheOriginalCoda I'm the same sort off. I don't have a driveway or a garden to park on, so if my car isn't taxed, then I can't have it outside of my house on the road. But in reality, my house is up to the middle of the road albeit adopted by the council who then look after it. So if my car isn't taxed, I'm stuffed anyway. If your driving your car on the road untaxed, then you are committing an offence and you can be fined. So they are finding you guilty, before they have found you committing an offence???? Thought this country's law was 'Innocent until proven Guilty' ????
@@JustMeZero988a few years ago I went on holiday for two weeks. I had an old car on the drive which was taxed but the 3rd party insurance ran out whilst I was away. They fined me for it! I phoned them up to tell them I hadn’t been driving the car. They said it didn’t matter. All cars have to be insured unless they are SORN. I asked how I was meant to know about this new rule/law. They said it had been on TV, but I don’t watch TV🤦♂️
Just got me warning that it's been sent to enforcement officers. What's annoying is I actually rang the c***s, on hold for like 20 minutes, then got cut off. I am now looking forward to their visit and to telling them to f*** off in person 😁
Hi Jon, Here is my tip for dealing with the BBC strategy of INTIMIDATION BY POST. DO NOT OPEN THE ENVELOPE. Put a line through your address on the envelope and mark it “ RETURN TO SENDER” then post it UNOPENED. The post office will return the letter to the return address on the back of the envelope. I get approx one letter a month and do the above with the envelope. If everyone does this, the whole strategy of sending intimidating letters fails as the BBC will know nobody reads them. As for the so called “enforcement officers” simply follow Jon’s advice: Say nothing and firmly close the door.
I do a return to sender every time, stating that there is no Mr L Occupier at this address. Blanking out the QR codes so they have to open the envelope to find who it was sent to. For this one I also write and you are G00N5 under the reference number in the window, also blacking out part of the logo on the envelope so it says TV Lice. For the envelope with the "we are opening an investigation" message in the window, I write more than you can say for this envelope under the window, before sending it back. If nothing else it must waste the Post Offices time and money, which will hopefully eventually lead to higher charges to the TV Lice.
Easiest way to stop the JW is just state you'll ONLY talk to them if you can prey for them like they want to prey for you , they can't allow it so leave it soooooo funny
best way to get rid of them is to tell them you already have one. I did as the misses was part of that religious cult (shes not now), but they soon bugger off when they realise their brain washing just wont work with me
It's a pity we can't sue / fine them for littering a private letterbox box area.. It's paper, it isn't your paper it belongs to someone called "The Legal Occupier".. Maybe a door sign reading:- Dear Postie, Please Redirect Any Mail Addressed to "The Legal Occupier" to His or Her New Forwarding Address at:-- Nearest Recycling Centre, Local Council Tip, Skip Designation Ref: FutureToiletRoll Thankyou.
The other day I was thinking that I must be due yet another letter from TVL, I heard the Mail being pushed through the letter box. On inspection and to my disappointment nothing. The following day, deep joy, there it was. I immediately put it unopened in the pile with all the other unopened letters from DL98 1AT. If they want to check to see if I’m watching TV without a licence they will have to bring a set with them (or fix mine 🤣)
They're quite correct, they CAN come around at any time, and be told to piss off. I actually make a non requirement declaration by email every two years and ignore the knock, which they still do occasionally. I don't use a tv or have a working aerial either. The cable for the old analogue one was cut off at above head height by yours truly, following vandalism to the lower end of it.
Best option when they show is say you're not interested in BBC but can they recommend any Sky or NetFlix subscriptions and ask if they also have a big van with lot sof pictures on like sky do....
You don’t need a working aerial to watch live TV or BBC iPlayer. Many use smart TVs, tablets or phones. As a result of the terror laws your ISP logs the registered users online activity.
I don't open these letters anymore as no point, never had a licence & never will. They don't know my name as I haven't ever been in contact with them. Job done.
If your home has a door entry system that you have to press the number of the property you want to access then just ask who they are then deny them access. Sometimes the goons press the number of other properties saying that they have a delivery for that address and they're not in and that person lets them in. In my property anyone can gain access from 07:00 to 12:30 but after that you have to press the number for the property you want. I'm awaiting my September threat O'gram, it normally arrives between the 27th of the month and the 7th of the following month
I had one of those recently. Like every other TV Fleecing envelopes that arrive in the post ; torned up and binned❗ 🧐 Also , if this so-called licence is only needed (allegedly) for watching live broadcasts , then 'Live TV Transmission' licence would be a more accurate term 🤔 ❗
The licence is also required for watching BBC iPlayer. Due to the terror laws your ISP is logging your online activity. Don’t forget a license may be needed to watching some live internet streaming.
I only open them if I fancy a laugh. My favourite part is all the exaggerated and embellished consequences and that we must act in order to stop a visit. Wait hold on... Your biggest threat is someone may ring my doorbell? I don't answer it and even if I did I would close the door in their face. All of a sudden they have no cards left to play.
Hey up! I bust myself laughing at your channel please keep it up its wonderful, The worlds going to shit but your channels brilliant thanks so much nearly crying laughing.
Hi, I'm so glad you're putting this out there. I've been worried sick. I don't watch bbc. Stopped watching gardener's world last year when I couldn't manage the garden. I only watch ,youtube I've even stopped watching talk. TV and GB news.I'm getting threatening letters too. And have even had hand delivered, red form with Officers number In blue biro. Dropped it in my open door, thanks for your time. I watch Rumble too. San,Cornwall
I got an exemption a few years ago and then I went to renew it a couple of years ago and I answered the correct "no" to all of the questions and they told me that I still need to have a license! I have just ignored them ever since and the toilet paper keeps coming and the other day I got my first IN letter! Thanks for the reassurance.
I don’t even open these letters they go straight in the bin; they stopped visiting me about 2 years ago because I just say no thanks and close the door. I don’t interact with them in any way.
Cancelled TV licence. Declared property empty. They then asked when it would be reoccupied. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!. Occupation is irrelevant as TV receiving equipment is irrelevant. Received an email they will check in the future in case my circumstances have changed. NO I will contact You if my circumstances change. YOU don't need to do anything.
A few weeks ago I had a hand written note shoved through my letter box threatening me with a visit. I was in at the time and they didn't bother to even try. Since then I have had multiple threatening letters which as they the usual threats and intimidation, I'm just laughing at still. It's those who don't understand that this is just lies, bullying, intimidation and threats to extract more money that suffer and why this kind of thing should be stopped. (I'm not talking about the concept of a TV license, just the tactics to intimidate people into paying it)
I got one of those a few days ago, and I have filed it away with all the others I have received every month for the past five years. I am still waiting for a goon visit. I am actually quite disappointed that they haven't showed up once.😁
I got one of these letters a few months after my Dad passed away and my mother put in Hospital and she evetually died in hospital the letter said they would send my address to their collection people how sub human is that I phoned them up and the woman on the other end of the phone was shocked and said she would speak to her bosses regarding the tone of this letter.
Maladministration - as Jon says, they're famous for it - but - God, how insensitive could they be? Bloody greedy Capita, shame on them! Please accept my heartfelt condolences for your losses. Stay strong.
I have a drawer in my kitchen that holds several very sharp knives, but nobody ever comes to my home to check that I'm not using them to break the law?!
Hi jon got my ino on monday morning read it and it was in the shredder within 2minuets of reading my worm bins love this stuff Great Post stay safe ATB
@@robtheplod Hi rob mps??? a waste of space they are not interested in the plight of pensioners to busy looking after there own bank accounts stay safe ATB
Their latest ploy to those who say they don’t need a license, is to send an email, followed by a threatening letter, accusing you of watching BBC iPlayer. They say they have monitored online activity and it clearly shows I have watched BBC iPlayer, which I definitely have not!
They can't prove it really. The most they ask for is a postcode, which if you don't have a licence, you're hardly likely to be honest about that are you!
actually... tell a lie, if you've registered your iPlayer account with the same email you declared to TV licencing that you don't need a licence, they _can_ in theory apply an address to your iPlayer account and extrapolate from there.
When they advised me of another planned visit , I suggested that if they persisted in threatening me to make sure they are displaying their " Blood group " and im 75 years old
I don't have a Dangerous Wild Animals Licence either, but the council doesn't come around to check if I have a Bengal Tiger in my basement.
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😂😂😂 I'm going to use that from now.
If they did it might save you some tiger food...
😂🤣 Perhaps you should and they do need feeding.
I am sure an officer called at ths address last week ........what's that roaring sound .oh it's the drainage ! 😁
After nearly a year of trying I have just managed to persuade my employer (a small business owner) to cancel our office TV license. We have 2 big TVs on the wall that only show phone stats etc and he was staunchly of the opinion that we needed a TV license because of that.
When I pointed out to him that we only needed to pay for a license if we watched live TV, he refused to believe me at first until I showed him this channel. He's been blindly paying it for years because he'd fallen for BBC & Capita's misinformation & false narratives.
From what you are saying then , this so-called licence , should be called 'Live TV Transmission' Licence ❗🤔
That would be a more accurate way to call this TV licence fleecing scam 😡
Most of the people I know watch cable or satellite never watch the BBC but still pay the licence 🙄
@@luckylimbo4816 If they are watching live broadcasts on any channel (even the non-BBC channels) then they would still need a license unfortunately. It's daft but they are the rules unfortunately.
@ChrisWilliams-ew2qx Not just daft, but a scam. If I only watch Coronation Street on I.T.V. I have to pay B.B.C for the privilege. They usedto say it pays for the transmitters. I watch the grand prix live at the weekend on broadband and I am expected to pay the B.B.C. licence fee just for that.
@@keithmarshall7715it might have made sense in the 1940’s, but today that transmission network (if you even use it) is paid for by the ad revenue.
It’s just a tax, albeit for a service most people don’t want or need.
Thank you John, my husband was worried after receiving this letter, having viewed your very informative and interesting video he now says 'sod em' !!!
😂😂 Love how more people are being made aware of this BBC scam. I'm not paying one penny to a company who facilitates pedophiles... ❤
Is a bit of a backlash from people who are paying for a licence. At the same time seeing people saying. I have not bought a license for years but it has not stopped my TV working. It’s obviously that as far as the license goes people can’t be trusted.
Funding the National Broadcaster from tax would put a stop to the cheating.
@@davecooper3238 funding all of the BBC not just Dave and Gold etc from advertising would make more sense.
I contacted the police to make a report of harassment against them after receiving 3 letters in one week after their system made a mistake (to which they admitted after the fact). The police told me that "This is not a police matter". I asked them if they were confirming that harassment is not a police matter and they could not answer. I asked them why it would be a police matter if I were to send 3 unwanted threatening letters to someone's address, and again they weren't prepared to answer. Insane.
You should have reminded them what they did with Alex Bellfield. Harassment is harassment.
Police didn't arrest a single pro Hamas protester throughout Britain either.
The BBC probably buys them, same as the House of Saud buys our police chiefs and politicians.
Not a police matter but a criminal offence if caught. Doesn't quite add up does it.
The Establishment closing ranks.
The only company in the country that will take you to court for not wanting their service lol
1&1 try it as well.
Not strictly true.... they take you to court for non payment of a fine after they establish you do require a licence..... if you dont use their services then no threat and no chance of prosecution.
@@robtheplodYep you are correct.
Perhaps come back with something that is true. They can’t take you to court for not watching live TV or BBC iPlayer.
Aggressively threatening people along with harassment for money they are under no obligation to pay is a criminal offence, no other company would get away with it. I'd love to see someone privately prosecute them.
No can do... the BBC have an exemption from the Government with these letters.. terrible isnt it.
HMRC get away with it. They have a behavioural psychology unit who write scary letters often sending them out on Fridays to ruin your weekend.
it feels like a form of racketeering.
@@robtheplod Unfortunately you are right, Black Belt Barrister addressed this recently, sometimes the law is a complete ass.
@@pjcnet😅
Mine went straight to the recycling this morning!
Unopened!
I’ve had dozens of these, my hamster is very very happy
My hamster is sick of chewing them up.
If one of their goons call on me i totally refuse to be polite to them. Why would i want to be polite to someone who works for a company who send me threatening letter's. I have two words for them it's the same two words I've got for our crap politicians the first one starts with an F
My hamster died after using a shredded letter for bedding! Not sure if it was poisonous ink or the poisonous words that it contained!
*GOOD FOLKS, IT IS VERY SIMPLE. BIN THE JUNK MAIL THEY SEND YOU, AND KEEP YOUR FRONT DOOR, AND MOUTH, >SHUT!
Best advice.
You poor, poor victim.
No, don't bin it. Do as I do, record the return address, do not open it, or future mail, stamp it "return to sender" and post it back.
How do they get away with this.? That is a very good question.No other company in this country would get away with this form of intimidation. It is cruel and could cause someone who is very timid and easily scared to take their life if they do not believe they have the funds to pay this tax.The BBC are beyond shame. It is disgraceful. 😡😡
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You are joking the Gangsters Government robs everyone daily
They are legally allowed to by the Government. When it comes to obtaining money for the TV tax anything goes it seems,, i would like more coverage of these on mainstream news though.
Have you ever had a private parking ticket?
"From as little as £6 a week" .. that's £312 a year!! That really helps if your struggling to pay bills and food.
The Tories always suggest an unemployed person could live off that for a week. They run away before you mention the words, rent, gas, electric.... the BBC need to give it for free, as it is them who want us to watch it, not other way round.
@@Lee_303 not to mention clothes , shoes , bedding , haircut , lawnmower use , TV license ,bus fares , window cleaner , the latter could be why you see student flats with dirty windows
They make you pay the entire licence in 6 months so the instalment is double, then it reduces to the normal rate so you remain 6 months ahead. This makes it much harder for people initially buying a licence, but it means a refund is due once you no longer need a licence as long as you inform TVL. Stopping your direct debit without telling them leaves you licenced for another 6 months with no refund.
@@pjcnetthe 6 month refund was a pleasant surprise. It only took 30 years to get it back.
@@pjcnetPeople have been caught out by obtaining a six month license arranging to pay by monthly instalments. Stopping payments after a couple of months does not cancel the license. Just leaves them in default on their credit payments.
Thanks for this Jon … Awaiting my monthly notification … not paid licence for 5 years now lots of £££ saved 👍 really feel sorry for elderly people and people with mental health issues that would feel very threatened by these disgusting notices .How they are allowed to get away with sending them is absolutely terrible.
I agree .
Wicked bastards for sure 😡
We’re waiting for ours as well. They seem to go through a cycle. A red envelope, dire, then we’re opening an investigation, then threats, then almost begging well with the normal dire warnings. I suppose I should have kept some so see how many different one there are but unfortunately 'Shreddy' gets hungry and wants feeding. Main course and dessert as we get it in Welsh as well. No, like you, we don’t need a license. No, we don’t watch live television. What I want to know is how come this isn’t harassment?
I received a letter yesterday last numbers being 38 have had a letter every month since July last year.
I've had loads of those letters threatening to visit me, I've filed all of them in the bin, and never yet had a visit. If I did I'd just ignore it, there's no law that requires a person to open the door just because people knock.
The BBC has an exception given to it by Government that allows it to send these threatening letters...
I had IN010O0A38 arrive this morning. Handy, as I had just dripped some coffee on the kitchen work surface and I wiped it away with the letter. I've just checked, and apart from the IN number, everything else was identical.
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Received one at the end of last week. Shredded it with the rest of the junk mail.
Let's make the TV licence as obselete as a dog license. Do not sponsor State TV.
Perhaps you aught to be like Russia & fund it via tax. Don’t hear complaints from there.
I'm still glad I cancelled my tv licence, and do not fear the jumped up little jobsworths/goons who work at Capita/TVL. Do not fear any of them.
Am glad you read the letters out as I shred them before I open them. I got the gold one last week.
I'm a postman and as well as receiving one of these letters myself I must of delivered hundreds and hundreds of these letters this week on my delivery, I was really surprised how many address no longer have a TV licence, more and more people are cancelling.
And it's not just my delivery all the other postmen in my office were delivering hundreds of these letters, if I had to put an estimate on the amount we received in the office to deliver then it must be close to 30 thousand.
I feel sorry for you having to deliver all that junk mail but it's great to hear how many people don't have TV licences 😊
@@sarahalexander1946Junk mail helps keep post workers in a job.
Got one this morning. It's nice they like to keep in touch. It was also bin day, so that was nice.
forward them to your MP asking why the Government permit harassment
I received one of those letters recently. It proved beyond any doubt that my shedder is as good as new!😊
Cheers Jon. Got an IN01O0 NOTICE this morning , thet might come to my door but I'll treat them as scammers and just say NO THANKS ! But many thanks for your advice and your heads up on this shit.
Anyone can knock on your door at anytime they want. Whether you answer or not is a different story.
I have had so many of these. They just make me laugh and go straight to the recycling bag.
Post it back, no stamp . It costs them more money, just write return to sender, Elvis Presley on the envelope that's what I do 😂😅
I received my IN01O0A38 this morning! I win! I counted all my TVL junk mail in my stash too: over 60 letters since 2018. All unopened.
do something with them... send to your MP asking why they permit this...?
Send them back without a stamp 😅😂
I got that same letter at the weekend and it still makes me laugh how Scott Robson seems to get around the UK so much. He deals with Maidstone and around Kent, Essex and even the Mid West 😂
Scotty boy gets down to Devon as well 😂
He also in South wales
He sent me *another* one of these this week, he gets about in Swansea often too! 🙄
@@MajorGowan1982 He was in Oxford recently too, counting down 10 days before he prosecuted me, or something, while listing "visit temporarily on hold". Still waiting to meet the guy, although I suspect like many other things Capita, it's just a lie.
Surrey too 😂
We demand the right to assume you're guilty until proven innocent to our satisfaction - second word "off".
Its interesting how the same company ‘CAPITA’ who create these letters & send their Plastic ‘Enforcement Officers’ are the same one working for Transport For London demanding money from drivers of ‘non-compliant’ vehicles. Such a horrible company!
Capita are involved in many things - government and otherwise i believe.
@@linda4thYep, that’s CRAPITA for you.
Return to sender unopened... " bring it on liers, bbc has NO BALLS!! " written on the back..
Thanks for that. I have never read one of these offensive letters, once I see the "TV Licence" bit, I just recycle. More recently, I pasted a label to "return to sender". Now, I will just label to the place that pays for the offensive material to be sent out (no stamp);
BBC Publications
Broadcasting House
Portland Place
London
W1A 1AA
I'm a Brit but I've lived in NY for decades. I'd forgotten about the telly license. From a distance, this is surreal and HILARIOUS!! Thank you!
Its the same in other parts of the world.
Especially when you consider that HMP inmates get to watch for free, criminals getting what pensioners are denied ! Bonkers.🙄
bit like US gun laws, surreal and hilarious from a distance.
Don't open the door and don’t open the threatening letters simple, no stress at all lol, however that's where some of your licence fees going folks if you don’t watch tont pay!!!
Had one myself yesterday with the prize code on
If someone knocks on my door and wants to know who I am before they identify themselves I'll automatically close the door.
Winter is coming again. I can finally use these letters now, to light my fire with 👍
Thank you BBC for the free fire lighters 👍🔥
But Allegedly 😉🥰🤗🤭 !!! The easiest option , and proven, is to just throw the letter in the bin unopened as a automated reaction to every letter they send, and the is not a damn thing they can do about it legally. Your problems only start when you talk or contact them. In 11 yrs I have had just 2 visits from Capita salesman at my door and apart from having some fun by " dribbling & smiling " at one of their foreign employees that freaked out before I shut my door, I have never spoken a single word to anyone involved in TV licencing. And legally they cannot do a thing about it.
Is that one of the reasons so many end up in court for noncompliance. With smart TVs, tablets, phones etc your ISP logs just what you are watching & when.
I continue to pay my tv licence fee though i rarely watch BBC channels but i did not move my licence to my present address due to the BBC wanting £20 for the transfer even though i filled out all the required info myself. Must be generating millions each year.
I get these letters often and seem to worry more the older i get so thank you, it is very appreciated.
I don't have a letter so far, haven't paid the licence since 2011 and I'm not likely to pay a licence soon 😂
On the day I apply for employment as a TV licensing enforcer I'll know that I've reached rock bottom, and that all and any self respect and dignity I had for myself have gone.
I had an “IN” letter this week. I fed the shredder.
I informed them of my "no license needed" status, I genuinely do not need a license completely legitimately. I realised I hadn't needed one for years and wished I had dumped the license years ago. I still get the letters addressed to "The Occupier". The BBC are nothing short of gangsters . I do not like pizza, never have, "Dominoes" down the road do not send me threatening letters saying I have a pizza free home and must do something about it. I still have friends who think if you own a TV you need a license. WRONG! Check if you need one now and stop paying it if you don't. I wish someone had opened my eyes earlier.
Got the very same letter this morning Jon, thought of you straight away. Also had a good laugh.
Had a letter on an empty flat asking if I would be home on a certain date. I phoned them asking for a time so I wouldn’t miss them. After 3 different people I told them if they didn’t turn up on that date I would charge them for my time. They eventually admitted it was a general letter and they would not be round. They apologised !! I told them if they send another letter without any intention or actually coming on that date I would sue them and report to the ICO.!! Not herd a thing since. If everyone does the same they will soon be made to stop this nonsense!
One of my mums lodgers passed away sadly over a year ago.... he still keeps getting letters from the BBC. RIP Tony.
the BBC do not send the letters, tv licensing is a private company
Harassment harassment harassment. Causing people alarm and distress. 😡
They use the threatening language because they're allowed to get away with it. It's time they were reined in, but don't expect the government to tighten the laws concerning such behaviour, and don't expect the police or courts to enforce the laws.
@@englishciderlover7347 I don't expect any consequences for them as they've been harassing people for a long time. I'm pretty clued on on this issue. I was just commenting on what they're doing.
I've never paid the tax, in the early days of being an adult I used to tell them I didnt need one, then when I realised you don't need to do that the letters ended up in my recylcing bin from that point forward. Never give them your name or contact details.
Got mine today, and like you, my inforcement team is coming from around 250 miles away. I cant wait
I always have a good laugh when I get their not so scary letters. I’ve given up watching television of any sort, I do sometimes watch You Tube stuff but most of its old stuff and none of its live. I don’t miss the news as I have a smart speaker so I can listen to that. The pizza menus and junk mail certainly make sure my shedder gets a balanced diet and the license letters are for deserts as it were.
With winter not far away and the weather it brings let’s all endeavour to make sure the licensing folk get to enjoy wind and rain too, why should they miss out?
Whenever I've suggested to anyone that they might not need a TV licence they've looked at me as though I'd claimed the Earth was flat.
This will make you howl 😂……I kept getting these “fancy threatening “ letters. I saved them all up over a period of 3 years. I then got a letter with a massive envelope, I used said envelope and packaged all these 40 odd letters to my address and sent them all back to the tv licensing address in Darlington. Naturally I sent them back FREEPOST. Funny that…..not had any further correspondence from them. I just laugh to think at how much they must have spent in postage to my address. 😂
I get a letter every few weeks, I got that IN letter a few days ago & 'filed it in the bin' like I do with all of them.
I have just received an IN01O0A39 today 04/10/2023. After nearly a year now, they have sent about 9 letters and knocked on my front door about three times this year. In that time they have achieved absolutely nothing, despite the threatening letters. So much for your great 'enforcement officers'. If I was Capita, I would sack the goons for failing to sell me something I don't legally require.
Lucky bastard I've had easy 25 of these letters and no one has knocked in the door. I will happily answer the door and abuse them. The letters say legal occupier they don't even know my name the goons
I would have thought it was illegal to broadcast their Mrs Brown's Boys, pay Gary Lineker an absolute fortune and sending out threatening letters!
Have great pleasure posting them back best thing I ever did bin the tv get rid bbc Lies
Btw, look closely at the form you have to sign every 2 years to get them to stop pestering you. It requires a "declaration of truth". This is common law, and they can criminally put you away if what you declare is found out to be untrue, as it's perjury. Same thing on a tax return. This is why, in this case, I wouldn't even declare anything or sign that paper work. I do the same thing with SORN. In general, I declare the bare minimum possible with all government entities, except HMRC, because if you fail to file tax returns, they can make it very difficult for your legal person (fines etc) and will ultimately eject you from their society due to non-compliance.
Put you away. Come on man.😅
Did you mean you dont do SORN? I have 4 vehicles - I don't want to tax them all, I cant drive them all at the same time, and SORN is an affront to our freedom - its the same shit tactics the BBC use.
>>>> Btw, look closely at the form you have to sign every 2 years
@@TheOriginalCoda I'm the same sort off.
I don't have a driveway or a garden to park on, so if my car isn't taxed, then I can't have it outside of my house on the road.
But in reality, my house is up to the middle of the road albeit adopted by the council who then look after it.
So if my car isn't taxed, I'm stuffed anyway.
If your driving your car on the road untaxed, then you are committing an offence and you can be fined.
So they are finding you guilty, before they have found you committing an offence????
Thought this country's law was 'Innocent until proven Guilty' ????
@@JustMeZero988a few years ago I went on holiday for two weeks. I had an old car on the drive which was taxed but the 3rd party insurance ran out whilst I was away. They fined me for it!
I phoned them up to tell them I hadn’t been driving the car. They said it didn’t matter. All cars have to be insured unless they are SORN. I asked how I was meant to know about this new rule/law. They said it had been on TV, but I don’t watch TV🤦♂️
Just got me warning that it's been sent to enforcement officers. What's annoying is I actually rang the c***s, on hold for like 20 minutes, then got cut off. I am now looking forward to their visit and to telling them to f*** off in person 😁
The fact their enforcement team is in Cambridge must mean they are very, very clever! Why else would they state it?
Ha, ha . The letters I receive come from Oxford .
It sounds better than the team from Jaywick.
Bin the Threats of Visits, if they rock up at your gaff ,no thanks shut the Door .cheers Jon .Job done m8
Hi Jon, Here is my tip for dealing with the BBC strategy of INTIMIDATION BY POST.
DO NOT OPEN THE ENVELOPE. Put a line through your address on the envelope and mark it “ RETURN TO SENDER” then post it UNOPENED. The post office will return the letter to the return address on the back of the envelope.
I get approx one letter a month and do the above with the envelope.
If everyone does this, the whole strategy of sending intimidating letters fails as the BBC will know nobody reads them.
As for the so called “enforcement officers” simply follow Jon’s advice: Say nothing and firmly close the door.
Then they have to pay the return postage, one more nail in their coffin ;)
Good advice. Better still don't answer the door.
@@gaz1tinsleyThey apparently don’t have to pay return postage. Anymore than you would.
@@davecooper3238 Oh well, they can dispose of their own garbage !
I do a return to sender every time, stating that there is no Mr L Occupier at this address. Blanking out the QR codes so they have to open the envelope to find who it was sent to. For this one I also write and you are G00N5 under the reference number in the window, also blacking out part of the logo on the envelope so it says TV Lice.
For the envelope with the "we are opening an investigation" message in the window, I write more than you can say for this envelope under the window, before sending it back.
If nothing else it must waste the Post Offices time and money, which will hopefully eventually lead to higher charges to the TV Lice.
One knocked on my door the other day, I simply closed it in his face. It did make me smile!
The TV licence goons are like Jehovah's witnesses but without the charm.
Easiest way to stop the JW is just state you'll ONLY talk to them if you can prey for them like they want to prey for you , they can't allow it so leave it soooooo funny
Jovo's do eventually eff off...
best way to get rid of them is to tell them you already have one.
I did as the misses was part of that religious cult (shes not now), but they soon bugger off when they realise their brain washing just wont work with me
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😂😂😂😂🤐👍
Yes I received one last week but thank you very much for your advice I will listen to you
Regards Carole
It's a pity we can't sue / fine them for littering a private letterbox box area..
It's paper, it isn't your paper it belongs to someone called "The Legal Occupier"..
Maybe a door sign reading:-
Dear Postie, Please Redirect Any Mail Addressed to "The Legal Occupier" to His or Her New Forwarding Address at:--
Nearest Recycling Centre, Local Council Tip, Skip Designation Ref: FutureToiletRoll
Thankyou.
Just had a thought, why don't we put them back in the post marked 'not interested, return to sender', that should cost them a few bob.
I had another IN letter this week too xD, i havn't opened the last 10 letters from TVL, they just go on the pile
The other day I was thinking that I must be due yet another letter from TVL, I heard the Mail being pushed through the letter box. On inspection and to my disappointment nothing. The following day, deep joy, there it was. I immediately put it unopened in the pile with all the other unopened letters from DL98 1AT. If they want to check to see if I’m watching TV without a licence they will have to bring a set with them (or fix mine 🤣)
My other half got a visit from these lot until I stepped in and told them that cold calling is illegal and I escorted him off her drive
They're quite correct, they CAN come around at any time, and be told to piss off. I actually make a non requirement declaration by email every two years and ignore the knock, which they still do occasionally. I don't use a tv or have a working aerial either. The cable for the old analogue one was cut off at above head height by yours truly, following vandalism to the lower end of it.
Best option when they show is say you're not interested in BBC but can they recommend any Sky or NetFlix subscriptions and ask if they also have a big van with lot sof pictures on like sky do....
Just remember having TV equipment of any kind doesn't require a licence.
@@robl5833The same with fishing tackle. But if you start using it for fishing a Water Bailiff will be checking you paperwork.
You don’t need a working aerial to watch live TV or BBC iPlayer. Many use smart TVs, tablets or phones. As a result of the terror laws your ISP logs the registered users online activity.
doubt the terror law is interested in someone watching strictly...@@davecooper3238
I don't open these letters anymore as no point, never had a licence & never will. They don't know my name as I haven't ever been in contact with them. Job done.
If your home has a door entry system that you have to press the number of the property you want to access then just ask who they are then deny them access. Sometimes the goons press the number of other properties saying that they have a delivery for that address and they're not in and that person lets them in. In my property anyone can gain access from 07:00 to 12:30 but after that you have to press the number for the property you want.
I'm awaiting my September threat O'gram, it normally arrives between the 27th of the month and the 7th of the following month
I had one of those recently.
Like every other TV Fleecing envelopes that arrive in the post ; torned up and binned❗ 🧐
Also , if this so-called licence is only needed (allegedly) for watching live broadcasts ,
then 'Live TV Transmission' licence would be a more accurate term 🤔 ❗
The licence is also required for watching BBC iPlayer. Due to the terror laws your ISP is logging your online activity. Don’t forget a license may be needed to watching some live internet streaming.
Had one last week, shitting myself.
Unfortunately they aren't very soft or absorbent
At least you'll have something to wipe it on.
I only open them if I fancy a laugh. My favourite part is all the exaggerated and embellished consequences and that we must act in order to stop a visit. Wait hold on... Your biggest threat is someone may ring my doorbell? I don't answer it and even if I did I would close the door in their face. All of a sudden they have no cards left to play.
isn't that the same as impersonating a police officer , even then there are more corrupt cops these days ??????
I got one of those the the other day, meh. I get an unexpected knock on the door maybe twice a year and I simply ignore it, job done.
Hey up! I bust myself laughing at your channel please keep it up its wonderful, The worlds going to shit but your channels brilliant thanks so much nearly crying laughing.
Licence free for 4 years, not had a visit yet, got one of these letters today. I did the decent thing and put it in the shredder for recycling.
Hi, I'm so glad you're putting this out there. I've been worried sick. I don't watch bbc. Stopped watching gardener's world last year when I couldn't manage the garden. I only watch ,youtube I've even stopped watching talk. TV and GB news.I'm getting threatening letters too.
And have even had hand delivered, red form with Officers number In blue biro. Dropped it in my open door, thanks for your time. I watch Rumble too. San,Cornwall
Wasn't this recently found by a Judge to be harassment?
BEST thing I did , got rid of the TV few years ago ,
Funny how you on right now I got one today binned as always … my two years up so expecting a knock my lips shut
I had an IN code letter just yesterday. It is sitting in my recyling bin as we speak - still sealed.
I got an exemption a few years ago and then I went to renew it a couple of years ago and I answered the correct "no" to all of the questions and they told me that I still need to have a license! I have just ignored them ever since and the toilet paper keeps coming and the other day I got my first IN letter! Thanks for the reassurance.
I don’t even open these letters they go straight in the bin; they stopped visiting me about 2 years ago because I just say no thanks and close the door. I don’t interact with them in any way.
I live in a "No Cold Calling Area" Can i tell them they are breaking the law in calling unannounced?
Cancelled TV licence. Declared property empty. They then asked when it would be reoccupied. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!. Occupation is irrelevant as TV receiving equipment is irrelevant.
Received an email they will check in the future in case my circumstances have changed.
NO I will contact You if my circumstances change. YOU don't need to do anything.
Anything that comes through the post box without my name on it , is junk mail and goes in the bin unopened !
I had one of these letters last week and it went straight in the shredder.
Applying for the no license exemption is good if you need a refund.
A few weeks ago I had a hand written note shoved through my letter box threatening me with a visit. I was in at the time and they didn't bother to even try. Since then I have had multiple threatening letters which as they the usual threats and intimidation, I'm just laughing at still. It's those who don't understand that this is just lies, bullying, intimidation and threats to extract more money that suffer and why this kind of thing should be stopped. (I'm not talking about the concept of a TV license, just the tactics to intimidate people into paying it)
look at blackbelt barrister and remove their 'implied right of access' to your property then they cant even knock on your door
I got one of those a few days ago, and I have filed it away with all the others I have received every month for the past five years.
I am still waiting for a goon visit. I am actually quite disappointed that they haven't showed up once.😁
forward them to your MP asking why the Government permit harassment
I have the same letter except mine says Guilford enforcement team. Will take them hours to get to my house in Cornwall
I got one of these letters a few months after my Dad passed away and my mother put in Hospital and she evetually died in hospital the letter said they would send my address to their collection people how sub human is that I phoned them up and the woman on the other end of the phone was shocked and said she would speak to her bosses regarding the tone of this letter.
what a waste of time. i paid the license last year, only because they said they were coming around on the day of my late wife's funeral
Maladministration - as Jon says, they're famous for it - but - God, how insensitive could they be? Bloody greedy Capita, shame on them! Please accept my heartfelt condolences for your losses. Stay strong.
I just filled out the exemption form and put my name as Legal Occupier.
I have a drawer in my kitchen that holds several very sharp knives, but nobody ever comes to my home to check that I'm not using them to break the law?!
Hi jon got my ino on monday morning read it and it was in the shredder within 2minuets of reading my worm bins love this stuff Great Post stay safe ATB
what a waste, send it to your MP asking why they have authorised this legal harassment.
@@robtheplod Hi rob mps??? a waste of space they are not interested in the plight of pensioners to busy looking after there own bank accounts stay safe ATB
I've been filling in the exemption form for many years, haven't had a single visit.
Unfortunately it still DOESN'T stop the threatograms being sent.
Their latest ploy to those who say they don’t need a license, is to send an email, followed by a threatening letter, accusing you of watching BBC iPlayer. They say they have monitored online activity and it clearly shows I have watched BBC iPlayer, which I definitely have not!
They can't prove it really. The most they ask for is a postcode, which if you don't have a licence, you're hardly likely to be honest about that are you!
actually... tell a lie, if you've registered your iPlayer account with the same email you declared to TV licencing that you don't need a licence, they _can_ in theory apply an address to your iPlayer account and extrapolate from there.
Targeted would imply a hostile act. What happened to all the hate laws???
When they advised me of another planned visit , I suggested that if they persisted in threatening me to make sure they are displaying their " Blood group " and im 75 years old