Side Kick Defense for Point Sparring
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2016
- In point sparring one of the most frustrating techniques to have thrown at you is a side kick. Check this video out for some tips on how to block the side kick and how to counter it.
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I've naturally been hooking it, and evading to the side, I'm going to definitely work more on moving in as well as the first option
I'm still looking for my first win in point sparring. I have a mild case of cerebral palsy. I can hit guys, but I have to get in close. My opponents have been using the front side kick to keep me at a distance. I got matched up against a much taller opponent with really long legs at my last tournament, and his front side kick gave me a LOT of trouble. I'm a shorter fighter anyway. Thanks for the vid!
mhh trying to block a side kick downards against a good fighter will get your hand seriously injured. i wouldnt suggest doing that.
+Liquidcadmus we are talking point fighting. Your hand would get injured to deflect down a side kick.
Well seen as sidekick my favourite kick,I would say best is to just move lol,but does depend how good opponent is if kick weak I would push it down but think better using forearm to push down come over the top with hands
Nice video. Alot depends on the stance and arm guard position I think.
I always thought Bill Wallaces defenses were the best, in both point and contact/k boxing.
That side stance,from armlow,rear hand high against jaw, he would deflect a side kick with a twist of the front forearm, or if necessary absorb the kick on his armbut 'riding' the kick impact too.
For those saying a palm slapdown dont work, Ive seen it work, and seen it work also in WKF olympic style karate, the few times a side kick is thrown in that competition style.
Keith Vitali used alot of evasive manouevres angle stepping the side kick, and ridgehanding the head at the same time, but you need great reflexes for a fast side kick.
Personally Id keep the front guard low, and take fast side kicks on it, twisting the forearm on impact, like Wallace did, very efficient.
Great points! I just went and spent some time with Bill this weekend. Great guy! At 73 he’s still super fast. That’s actually how I fight, but I know a lot of beginners watch my videos and don’t fight in the same stance. Hence the reason I gave more options in this video. Side ways is key, though!
When how you do when someone keeps his leg up coming forward to set up a side kick?
In point sparring, my son uses the boxing method for footwork, coming off the ninety-degree angle and back fisting to the helmet, one point. He has had success in the angle footwork from boxing. He has also had a lot of success in bobbing, weaving and counter strike. Have you ever tried learning the box method in boxing for point sparring? I'm not sure it will work at the higher levels, that is why I'm curious. But yes, in general, he looks like a standard point sparrer, he just has a couple of tweaks in his game to throw them off.
There is a bit of bouncing/moving, quarter stepping with a little bit of bobbing and weaving. Basic thing we live by is that the person who wins a match is the person who has the least amount of points scored on them. So, score points on your opponent and do what it takes to not get hit.
Yes, it is a very allusive sport. We are using your combinations and other strategies to put a game plan together. The punching and kicking with control *Face Shots* are his biggest adversaries. I mounted a helmet on a bag so he could practice. My son asks me if point spares can fight in the octagon. I tell him all the time distance and position is number one thing to fighting. It is the hardest thing to learn in fighting, in my opnion. Point sparring is all about position and distance too your opponent to create openings. And then I point him to Wonder Boy, Raymond, Michael Page, Amanda Nunes, George St. Piere and quite a few others on how important it is to learn to point spare. Thanks for the response.
I used to compete against Anthony "Showtime" Pettis in point sparring back in the day. He made it to the UFC. The biggest thing with transitioning from point fighting to MMA, is to cross train and have a good coach. Your ground game needs to be 💯 for MMA.
Cool! I'm hoping he becomes an accountant. :0) I come from a Muy Thai and Boxing background. I did not learn about position and distance against the opponent until later in my training. The thing I like about point sparring is it starts teaching these fundamentals early in the training. It always is accessing opponents position of hands and feet for openings. The distance it needs to cut. Instead of working a straight line it is working to break down the opponents body language. It is something that is not taught in Boxing and Muy Thai until a later time. It is something that I think should be taught early. Ya, Coaches are everything!
Wish I’d seen this before my last tournament. Does it work the same if the opponent is taller than you? 👍🏼
It could be a little trickier if your opponent is taller, from the fact that they probably are kicking higher, but the technique is the same as long as they are kicking at the mid section.
The first counter is extremely ineffective. If someone's built up their gluteus medius (the muscle responsible for raising your leg sideways and keeping it up), you aren't gonna be able to bring their leg back down. Also, someone who's got enough explosive power in their quads and hamstrings can easily just retract their kick when they see your hand moving down and then strike after you bring your hand down. It's what I do, and the second side kick always lands to the head since the opponent's arm is lower. So the first counter is extremely risky and very unreliable.
As far as the second counter goes, I'd like to add that it's always a good idea to add a small side-step or back-step when you're bringing your hand down to hook the leg. Again, same reason as before, there are people who have enough explosive power and speed to hit you before you manage to hook their leg if you stay in the path of their kick. That's why I suggest adding that small side-step/back-step which might just save you from a really nasty kick. But overall, the concept is valid.
Regarding the spin kick theory, it would work on a spin side-kick and a spin hook-kick, but it wouldn't work on a proper back-kick, aka. dwit-chagi in Taekwondo. The reason being that both the spin side and hook kicks require the chamber phase to be horizontal and the hips to go completely around. But with dwit, you're actually kicking like a horse would, keeping your hips facing the opposite direction from the opponent and having your kicking leg go side-by-side with your pivot leg. This is why dwit is extremely effective as a counter from a clinch position, because you can still hit the opponent even from that distance if you do it right.
The "third" counter (basically the second one, but from a different side) is kinda risky if the opponent is agile enough to use the momentum you give them by pushing their leg aside and doing a roundhouse with their back leg. I'd suggest always adding a side-kick or a hook-kick, as you've shown in an example, to reduce the chance of the opponent countering your counter.
Can you do a Round Kick Defense using the hands too?
Yeah, I'll work on that.
Tbh, the best way to deal with a roundhouse is to take it on your guard or dodge it. Trying to bring the leg down or hooking it like it's shown in this video would be extremely ineffective.
Bringing the leg down itself is very unreliable and heavily depends on your opponent's gluteus medius strength, as well as their quad and hamstring explosive power and speed. With a roundhouse kick you've also got the leg coming at you in an arc instead of a straight line, making it harder to even hit the leg with your hand.
As far as hooking goes, you're basically trying to outpower the force that kick generates with your hand. The only hook you could try is from the back side, but that's quite hard to achieve since the roundhouse kick has a lot more stability against that due to the body being positioned diagonally instead of completely sideways, as is the case with the side-kick.
So yeah, my personal suggestion is to just dodge or block the roundhouse kick with your guard.
Alternatively, you could counter the roundhouse by training up your side kick to be as fast and explosive as possible, as it's a great way to stop the opponent from even doing a roundhouse kick. Same goes for any direct kick really, like dwit, spin side-kick, front kick, etc.
Thanks for the feedback. Most of your points are super valid for an Olympic style sparring match, while I’m coming at this from a TKD point fight match, which means light to moderate contact.
@@JordanBrownKicks I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding what any of what I said has to do with how hard someone kicks? And I'm fairly certain the asker didn't specify what contact style they're asking about. What I said is valid for a regular roundhouse kick. Sure, if someone's gonna do a slow kick with no force behind it, then you can try hooking/parrying it. But as far as I know, any object that has a mass and is moving is generating force. Other than that point, I really fail to see what you're claiming I'm wrong about when it comes to ITF Taekwondo.
My bad. When I read this first thing this morning I thought you had wrote side kick. I thought you were referencing the original content of the video and not addressing his question. Yeah, blocking and defending a side kick would be different than a roundhouse kick
What about our hand fingers? Finger will not break if we will block with our finger.
You shouldn't be using your fingers to block anything. Always use the palm of your hand or your forearms to block.
Side kicks should come in a straight line
Good way to break a finger.
No. Ever done a palm strike?
@@JordanBrownKicks with all due respect, the way that you held your hand when you were blocking his side kick was with your fingers pointing downward. You weren't hitting it with your palm. I respect that you posted a video knowing that you will receive feedback, both positive and negative.
No, I’m literally hitting with the palm of my hand. I have sparred hard for the last 24 years and have never broken a finger by shoving a side kick down. In fact Ive never injured a finger sparring.
I can tell you have forms in your system
Oh, yeah? How’s that?
Jordan Brown your students movements are ridged. Most point fighter cut the angle on the lead side kick then blitz.
Not if the kicker is good. It all depends on how much you commit to throwing it fully engaged. Also, the techniques I show are for all types of point fighting, not just sport karate. There are some rules systems that do not allow punching to the head.
As for my student. He's helping show a technique not trying to fight to win a point. He's simply being a good representation of what is thrown.
your student isnt even trying to hit you, when he delivers a real one its gonna hurt like a mother just blocking it with the first defense. He isnt snapping his front foot back to use it like a jab.
This is regards to point fighting not self-defense. Techniques are thrown with light to moderate contact.
@@JordanBrownKicks Oh, I understand now. Pretty cool stuff either way! Keep up the good work.