Jason, I have been watching you for a while now and I just wanted to tell you that you’re very very good. You do an excellent job, explaining whatever the product is that you are demonstrating. Keep up the good work young man. You are appreciated.
I have to say that I LOVE the 30A DC port which would actually allow you to hook up a much more efficient low wattage AC inverter for really small load so you don't have to fire up the big (somewhat wasteful) built in AC inverter.
I'm a "retired" EE, so i really appreciate your thoroughness. I've built & installed several multi KW arrays on my roof and property because I found that the topology of my roof only permitted single 6KW & 3KW arrays, and I then tied them together with some other panels, often using solar generators when they were cheap. I have several engineer friends with battery design expertise, so i'm well covered there as well. Really glad to see someone like you enter the review space because i have lotsa neighbors & friends who call on me for advice & you look like a good resource for those folks! Keep up the good work! Mike
Thanks so much for this review. I have been a part-time van dweller since I built out a Ram Promaster in 2018 and have had several different battery options, starting with an AGM-battery Goal Zero, then a crowd-sourced Bluetti (OK, but disappointing in several areas), and finally a Pecron E3000. I didn't know much about the Pecron brand, but it seemed to offer excellent bang for the buck, so I took a chance. It has been excellent and allowed me to go almost 100% electric in the van. Naturally, I use it for the usual stuff: vent fan, Wabasto, lights, and fridge. However, I do most of my cooking using electricity now. The Pecron powers a small microwave, a small electric pressure cooker, an induction burner, and a small capsule-type coffee maker. Naturally, I'm not running all these things simultaneously, and I'm very aware of my power usage. For instance, I may make a couple cups of coffee (about 6-7 minutes) and use the induction burner to fry some eggs (another 5-6 minutes). One surprising and economical find was my 3-quart electric pressure cooker. It uses full power to reach pressure (around 10 minutes) but very little power to maintain pressure as it cycles on and off during that cooking phase. I can usually recharge the system with the 400 watts of solar that I have on the roof, but I can also run my van's power to an inverter that powers the E3000 power brick and charge that way when I'm driving. The Pecron has turned out to be an excellent choice and is well-built. My unit is simple (not many bells and whistles), but it does the job. I would love to upgrade to the E1500 plus the expansion battery, but I'm now retired with other responsibilities. Perhaps, someday. Here is a wishful thought to Pecron. Do you want someone to do a real-world test in a van using the E1500 and the accessory battery? I would be happy to comply :). Ahh, yes, wishful thinking. But for now, I'm very happy with my E3000.
@@Jasonoid I live in the Midwest and do a lot of local camping the states surrounding. Also love to spend time out west in the camper-Arizona, Utah, Colorado, etc.
Pecron really stepped up their game on this one. The expansion battery is awesome in that it can be used separately, too bad the main unit doesn't have the same capacity though. I love the 90° cables. It's about time somebody finally listened to the public. As always comma another fantastic video Jason
This video was HUGE! So much to test on these units now :) The expansion battery is pretty useful with both the DC charging and DC outputs built into it!
I recently bought 600LFP. One year warranty with purchase, two year with registration. Three year if you complete a feedback survey at registration. I received a replacement 120v AC charger in less than a week from notifying them. Great thorough and organized reviews!
Fantastic review, it was very concise and detailed. Great job! Love my 600LFP from Pecron and will be picking this up in the very near future. I too found it strange that the 24V Converter worked on the aviation port for charging given it should have needed 32+V, I have to run a 48V on my 600. Have a good one and keep those reviews coming!
Hello Jason, I have a Pecron E1500LFP and an Ecoflow Delta 2 Max, the inverter of the Delta 2 Max is 2400W and that of the E1500LFP is 2200W. I replaced my Ecoflow in my camper with the Pecron because the Delta 2 Max does not succeed in starting the air conditioning while the E1500LFP does it without problem. I bought it with your link during its pre-launch and I am pleasantly surprised by the services it provides me. thank you for your reviews
Thanks 4 the gr8 review. I bought the Pecron E1500LFP based on your review. I think you might have to give the rating a bump up since they are offering 5 years when you register online.❤
Super in-depth video, such great data. Impressive DC output on the system and extra battery, Pecron has really been upping their game. The new grading system and new overlays are really good! I wonder if you should award extra credit for things like 30A DC output or expansion.
Thanks, Todd! One of my new requirements is to have 150 watts of DC output for powering larger DC loads like diesel heaters. A lot of machines will miss out on that new requirement, this one didn't though! :)
Excellent presentation. Thanks for sharing. Love the 12v output options and the high amp loads. Jackery and Bluetti are going to lose truck/van/boat/car business to this unit since they have practically abandoned 12v output options in their newest units. The Pecron E1500 Pro also has some very nice 12v output options. For use in my truck/car/boat where I need strong 12v options - I would pick either of these Pecron units over the newer Jackery/Bluetti units.
I totally agree with you on this. Why have a portable battery with such much power inside to only have 130 watts output on DC?! SO glad Pecron knows what people are looking for!
Thanks for the new grading system 2.0. For this unit, I think Pecron hit the gold. With a 30a 12V, wireless charger, good UPS, app, expendable (with connectors on this extra battery), a 90 degres connector for the extra batteries, a bunch of cables, Ac cable without brick and all connectors in front of the unit. they start to play in major ligue.
I see your power grading sheet, but I curious about direct comparaison between the Pecron E1500LFP and the Bluetti AC1800. The Bluetti score more but I have a litle cruch on Pecron. What do you thing?
Thanks For the Discount code. I buy one. For the Vanlife, I think it's one of the best one. I already have Delta 2 Max but this EcoFlow mist a huge feature in the 12V 30A. I will replace this unit by the Pecron E1500LFP. It's my favorite one for my use. She have more capacity than Bluetti AC1800 and Solix C1000, She have contectivity than the Pecron E2000LFP didn't have, she have the 30A missing on EcoFlow and she have better charging option than Bluetti AC200MAX.
Thank you for the fantastic review! The EP3000 has some amazing features, including a solar input of 400w, priced at 1238€ for 3kW. That’s truly remarkable in the solar generators/power stations market! I've pre-ordered one to try out as a single battery, using your code, for a total of 1177€. Might buy next the E1500LFP bundled with another EP3000 for +7kW total
Hi there, if you are looking for high-power 12V output the Fossibot F3600 might be interesting for you as well. It has a 3840Wh battery with a 12V 25A output but additionally you get an 3600W inverter, PD outputs, 2000W solar input etc. It is a bit more expensive but considering the features I still consider it a great option at currently around 1600$ here in Europe. Jason reviewed the "little brother" the F2400, this one also offers a 12V 25A output if that's your main criteria.
I watched this video a while back. I enjoyed it and ordered one. Mine is to be delivered Monday the thirteenth of November. Your video with the 600,2000,ant the 1500 was cool because I will now have all three
Phenomenal detailed presentation and succinct. I love this new Pecron . Finally they listened to the consumers and are the first to come out with the 90º cables for the expansion batteries and to boot to make the expansion batteries usable as well. When it comes to power banks I basically use them for recreational and emergency purposes and wished that they would offer more 12V plugs since it is the most efficient and if it is an emergency you don't want to use power hungry appliances. I love the ratio of inverter to battery capacity where if necessary it will power most things and still maintain its portability. I am glad they got rid of the charging brick. I do wish it had an extra or two cigarette plugs and I still feel that the 32V to 95V voc is limited. Jason, again great great job!
I'd just take the 30 amp DC output and split off that with an xt60 to 12v cigarette splitter. Then you could have three 12v cig ports. I personally hate the 12v cig ports, you'll lose about 0.3 volts through them via resistance / heat and they fall out and wiggle loose.
Great review as always Jasonoid :) P.S. We really enjoyed all of our pecron products that we have over the last 1 year :) 1 x e2000lfp (full 8kw system) 2 x eb3000 batteries 1 x e600lfp 2 x pv300 solar panels 1 x pv100 solar panel P.S. We are really hoping to be able to review this power station and the e3600lfp power station from pecron :)
How long does it take to charge by solar the units to capacity, or can this be done in a single day by solar? The reason I ask is to see what would happen in an extended power outage, such as after a storm causing disruptions in electrical service? Txs!
Looks like some great upgrades! I would really like to see them get away from those aviation plugs, and go to something more standard, like xt60 or anderson inputs. I've been watching you for several months and built my own portable unit in a toolbox. 100ah lifepo4, 2000 watt inverter, 40 amp charge controller, 2 fans, fuse block, lights, charger, and four 100 watt panels. You gave me the confidence to it, and I thank you!👍
Thanks, Jason, I was doing a bit of research on charging a lifepo4 battery using the xt60 port; in my case, mine is 25 amps, not 30 amps, but at least I know it can work. Really appreciate the content, very helpful! Can always get a charger if it doesn't charge it enough.
Can you add a link to an overview of all of your graded solar chargers? Your reviews and analysis is top of the line and simplifies finds for us lay people. Thanks for your channel Jason! You are the best go to out there for solar generators.
12 - 18VDC on the Low Power Solar input ... that leaves my single 21.4VDC Solar Blanket out; unless I 'series' two of them & move to the other port. :(( I was so close to grabbing this unit until I seen that. I do have 2 Blankets in Series; but if one fails, I can't just jump to the lower port to keep things going.
@@Jasonoid Somehow my reply was trashed... so I will try again. Sorry if this turns out as a duplicate. Mine is a 200 Watt, HardKorr 21.5V @ 9.35A MAX (26.7 VOC) Solar Blanket. (as shown here ua-cam.com/video/gvUPDmtcTyU/v-deo.html). While I normally use two in series, which would be fine on the 32VDC port. However, I sometimes like to use just one. In that case, my concern is with the 12 to 18VDC input is too low; while the 32VDC input is too high. I'm kind-a caught in the middle. My worry is if the 21.4VDC max'ed out on the 18VDC input, it would be damaged.
Great news from pecron about this model :) P.S. Pecron has just extended the warranty of the e1500lfp (even if you already bought it) to 5 YEARS !!!!! P.P.S. Make sure that you get over to the website and register your system today and extend your warranty from 2 years to 5 years !!!!! P.P.P.S. :)
@@Jasonoid We just tested the e2000lfp (upgraded controllers) and the e1500lfp with VOC of 80v and everything ran perfect, So yes, The are getting much better :)
I just found your channel today enjoyed how you hooked up the batteries to the power stations. I have a original my ecoflow delta would love to see a video how to hook up extra battery to itThanks.
I've been a Pecron fan for a while as I do have several of their products. You can get a 3 year warranty by responding to the service email you get after registration. This would bring their grade up to a "9" on your new scale. (B+) New feature additions are great but their solar 7 pin inputs and voltage requirements drive me nuts.
I got their LP2000 34 days ago but after watching this video ask Pecron if I could return my new unit and upgrade to the E1500 w/ the 3000 battery pack. They said NO! I like the new WiFi capability so I can control the unit remotely specifically turning the inverter on/off according to a schedule. Any idea if I can use my LP2000 to trickle charge the E1500 using the DC In/Out? I do not want my LP2000 to become a boat anchor only after 34 days
If one power station is too small, and another is just too big, could it be this one is perfect? I think a lot of buyers will like the versatility and expandability of this particular product, especially at this price point. :)
Did you received the confirmation, I didn't see it on your Spreadsheet? direct on they facebook it was anouncement and pecron confirm my 5 years on mine. @@Jasonoid
I love your channel and expertise sir. I preordered the E1500LFP immediately after watching this video. Used your promo code, thanks for that discount! I see I can add on the EP3000 additional battery for $1300. In the video you used a 48v battery to charge. My question is, why wouldn't I just buy a 48v 50Ah/2560Wh LiFePO4 online for about $600 and use the aviation style connector? I could buy 2 (+5000Wh!) for less than the price of one Pecron battery. Is there an advantage to the Pecron besides it's cool rugged case? These will be stationary in one room in the house. Dan in AZ
Only the proprietary E3000 battery will charge and discharge equally with the power station. If you use a standalone 48v battery to charge the power station, it won't sync with the power station automatically like the E3000 expansion battery. You'll have to charge it independently.
e600, e1500, e2000 wow, hard to remember that... said facetiously. Nice video content though. Nice product and great price! Also LFP battery can last 10+ years, yes?
Awesome review Jason! With the price comparison and expandability of power stations it almost makes more sense to use this for a full time van conversion power source. I have a couple of questions in regards to this. 1) In terms of using it as a power source in a van what are your thoughts when it comes to durability due to vibration of the vehicle or do they do any testing, certification for this kind of environment. 2) One thing that's kept me from using a power station vs an individual component build station is the lack of DC-DC charging. Noticed that in your video the Pecron perform as one of the slowest charging from the vCctron DC-DC. converter Saw your workout around video using the Victron DC-DC charger and I'm wondering how this Pecron stacks up or if you could add the results of that test to your overall testing spreadsheet. 3) Follow up to the question above are you able to keep the DC-DC charger and Solar panels connected and charging at the SAME time at high capacity using a Victron Energy Orion 12/24-Volt 20 amp DC-DC Converter or Orion TR DC-DC 12-12- 30AM and somehow plug in a DC-DC charger along with 4x100 Watt panels without maxing out the 700 watt limit so it theoretically has the ability to charge up to 700 Watts using 400 from the panels and 300 from the DC to DC charger acting as a 700 watts solar panels but also having the benefit of charging form the vehicle when sun conditions are not ideal. 4) Is 30A on the DC to DC outlet enough to connect to a 12 volt DC blue sea distro fuse box to run the following: Air max fan, LED lighting 2-3 USB charging outlets 12 volt wall mounted fan 12 volt wall mounted LED RV reading light 12 volt water pump or I'm I better off spreading out each component using the 12 volt cigarette lighter port for set power fridge, some long USB cables for the tech device outlets and barrell plug for the LED lights and Air max fan. Thank you!
Lots of questions here so I'll do my best to briefly answer them: 1) I don't think they are certified for anything specific but I do feel the E1500lfp is very solidly built and will handle a bit of vibration. You could always build in some sort of rubber feet or isolaters for a van install. 2)When testing with my 24v dc to dc converter I was able to get 260 watts charging on the aviation charging port. If you used the 30 volt victron you'd probably see around 300 to 330 watts charging on that port. 3) You could use both charging ports at the same time for faster charging, just remember the 5521 charging port is limited to 100 watts, so a 120w solar panel is all that would be worth connecting there. 4) All the items you listed are very low wattage devices, no issues at all powering all those at the same time off the 30 amp DC output / distro box.
Awesome! Thank you@@Jasonoid Noticed that the EP2000 has two aircraft ports rated up to 600 Watts seems like that's exactly what I'm trying to do by having a DC to DC charger and at least 400-600 watts of solar. The drawback there would be the 20A limit on the barrel plugs to connect to the 12 fuse box vs using the Anderson connector. If this 1500 had two aviation plugs like the their 2000 model it would be perfect. What about if I got the EP3000 expansion battery could I achieve what I'm trying to do by running the DC to DC to the power station and Panels directly to the expansion battery while cascading/ connecting both and would they automatically balance each other out. Sorry for all the questions 😬 or lastly would the best/most efficient option just be a 1000 watt AC inverter on a remote switch to take advantage on the dual charging you demoed so I can turn it on and charge while driving as needed
Can unit solar run in Series & Parallel for 93volts (VOC) 76volts (normal) @ up to 17.2amps (8.6amp x2)* * I assume unit reduces amps to 15amp max input. Thanks for your time.
93 volts is a little high, probably too high for the charge controller. Remember that when it's cold outside solar panels produce higher voltage numbers than their rated VOC so give yourself 5 to 6 volts extra head room.
Did you get a chance to try to check the acceptable Max input on the PV 12 - 18VDC input ?? There are lots of Solar Blankets out there with 21.5VDC voltage, if you only have one.
Great review. I was wondering how the Pecron E1500LFP does after a few years of usage (reliability, longevity, etc.). Also how does it compare to similar units (Ecoflow, Bluetti, Jackery, etc. equivalents)? It looks like it is cheaper than the leading brands, but what about the other factors. Also is Pecron as good a company to deal with as Ecoflow, Bluetti, etc? Thanks very much.
Thank you Jason for all your videos. Excellent rundown. I'm trying to figure out what's going on at 24:21 though. The nearest panel is not connected. I'm guessing you shot that piece as you were tearing down the setup?
Love that old Bestek 300watt inverter... I've had one for 7-8 years and it's still going strong. :-) Nice specs on that Pecron, and I was worried about the gap between 100 watt port and the other starting at 32volts, leaving a "no man's land" for many 200-300 watt panels (Like my Bluetti PV200) But seeing that 32volt port charging at 24volts makes things better as I'd definitely make that with 2 portable panels!
It's not affected much on an LFP battery. These batteries can be cycled so many times without degradation it's almost impossible to even notice a difference.
@Jasonoid I dont know if you still have this Pecron power station. I have a very specific usecase and was wondering if you could confirm. Will this unit charge with 2 DC sources conncted simultaneously. 12V from the vehicle connected to the 5521 barrel port at 100W and a 200W solar panel connected to the aviation style DC port. I am trying to maximize the DC power input into the unit..so that it charges from both the vehicle and solar when I am driving and solar only when I am parked
Any thoughts or ideas for adapting a 90 degree elbow on the 700 Watt solar charging input cable (GX165)? Seems like a flimsy connection that sticks straight out & not secure. This is even more of a concern if one is considering using the DC/DC higher wattage converter for charging while driving. Also seems like they are running a large amount of current through that GX16-5 plug?
AWESOME review!!!! Not only did I give you a thumbs up but I also asked for notifications for any new videos. I'm not an expert on power stations but I've watched a ton of these power station YT review videos lately and as a reviewer you are at the top of the list. Super thorough review and I can't think of anything you could do to improve your reviews. So keep up the GREAT work....much appreciated!!! Regarding the Pecron E1500LFP, it looks like an excellent product that checks all of the boxes. The only thing that I'd like to see is more AC output ports (only 3?). I'd like to see a minimum of 4 AC ports and 5/6 would be more ideal...even if they had to make the unit a bit larger to accommodate them. Is there any reason why or any limitations regarding using an power extension cord with this unit to expand the number of AC ports? If not then this will likely be my solution to the limited number of ports. Do you happen to know if the E1500LFP in combo with the EP3000 would qualify for the Federal Tax "rebate" of 30%? Or do you know of any resources (other than an accountant) that could clarify on that issues ?
I'm not sure about the tax question. As for use extension cords and surge protectors to get more outlets... There isn't an issue doing that. You'd want to make sure you use a 12awg extension cable and use a high quality surge protector and you'll be golden running multiple devices at once through 1 outlet on the power station.
I’m waiting on your review on the Oupes Mega 2 before I choose between it and the Pecron E1500. The high amperage DC output is a big selling point for me in a power station…
Very impressive, thanks Jason. The short warranty is still mystifying me. Can there be any other reason besides inferior reliability? Maybe there's too much marketing/gimmicky bs surrounding long warranties and they just don't want to invest in that side of things? If it does come down to reliability then I guess they'll need to up their game further still before the brand can hit new heights. Looks like they're on their way though.
@@Jasonoid Yeah I guess it's too much to ask from a smaller brand. But with the popularity they have now I expect them to start addressing this soon, otherwise I can only assume that reliability is an issue.
Thank you ..I purchased for 4 units after seeing your video.i noticed you use in your test a small inverter plug in I to to 12 volt xt60 ...did you do that conversion by yourself ...I ask because I want a run a small ac fridge and fell it's to much energy lost true the big inverter ...do they make cigarette plug into xt60..or it need to be home made ...thx
Any recommendations on some rigid panels that I could mount on my RV or rooftop tent for the E1500 LFP? Don’t wanna use flexible or portable folding ones. Your videos have helped me so much! Thanks!
hi,great vid! Can I charge a DC cigar input for a portable fridge and also plug my portable AC into the 12Volt AC input simultaniously? Or do I need to get a smaller unit as well for the fridge? thanks!
i just got twi expansion batteries from Pecron for the 1500 , what do you set the serial number knob to on each ? 1 then 2 ? or is the piwer station considered one , so the batteries setting should be 2 and 3 ?
Here's how you Calc runtimes: Power station capacity / wattage of loads = runtime in hours 3072wh / 2000 watts = 1.53 hours runtime 👍 Usually take off a little bit of additional time that the inverter uses as well.
@@YouLookinAtMe-Bro yep, electric heaters are not a good way to get heat in an emergency. Think of using alternate options like running a natural gas furnace or propane options. If you ever wondered why your electric bill is sky high in the winter, it's from running electric space heaters.
@@rickandpiesretirementadven9000 owners manual and website say 1 year warranty plus 1 additional year with registration. They need to publish the 3 year warranty if they indeed have one.
Does adding an additional battery, mean that the power bank will take the same amount of time to charge or take longer with an additional battery hooked up? This would be by using the 600 watt capacity solar panels during an extended outage?? Can (main unit & battery(s) fully be recharged in 1 day ?😢
Adding an expansion battery does add to the total charging time. You can add 400 watts of solar panels to the expansion battery at the same time so it can charge with 700 watts of solar plus 400 watts of solar if you wanted.
I like this unit. I really like that the extra battery plug actually has the 90 degree turn in it. I do not know of any others that have done that yet. I wish it had 2 of the 32 to 95 volt solar inputs but I guess it is fine that it only has one. I need to get me one of those anderson to aviation plug so I can see what voltage the high voltage inputs actually go down to on my e2000lfp. I think rambling bob said his turns on around 12 volts on the 32 to 95 volt input on the e2000lfp. I would have to ask him or try to find that video again to be sure of that.
@@Jasonoid I went ahead and made a cord to mc4 to connect my solar cables for the pecron to my 0-to-48-volt dc 480-watt ac to dc converter. Now I can test any power station with the supplied solar cables. Tested it this morning and found mine shows power input symbol on the e2000lfp display but does not charge around 24 volts, does not start charging until about 31 volts and will keep taking a charge until about 28 volts. Then it stops charging.
Great review! I wonder, what the parasitic drain would have been, comparing your DC to AC inverter vs the internal inverter drain. Having that lower watt AC inverter opens up options. I have that same one! :)
Well it would better (the little inverter pulls around 9 watts when nothing is running on it) but you are limited to 300 watts or less when using the little inverter vs 2200 watts of the built in inverter so you have trade offs. The best thing you can have the option since the it has the 30 amp DC port.
Do I understand you right, that the app only works on Wi-Fi, not Bluetooth? So you can’t use this unit with the app when you are camping, for example? Thanks!
From what I understand, you only need WiFi the first time to set the app up. Then you can turn off the WiFi and only use Bluetooth. Pecron has a short video on their UA-cam channel. Good luck.
Great job, enjoyed the video! When expansion battery is connected, and solar is connected to ONLY the power station.....does the battery and power station both recharge together?
Jason I just started watching you mainly I've been interested in getting a alternat power supply I first looked at some other videos just to get an idea of what's good at a price I could afford the Pecron E600LFP looked like a good choice but then I got to thinking about what I'd be using it for and how adaptable it is not great I really think that even though It might take a little longer but the Pecron E1500LFP has a lot more power and the option to add a second battery makes it a better choice, I really appreciate your break down so unless I find something better at a decent price my minds made up thanks again
The Pecron E1500LFP is an excellent option. If you want something even bigger the new E3600LFP is priced really well and will give you very long runtimes.
Can you charge the expansion battery along with the connected the power station with just the ac cable? More convenient than charging separately. The versatility is that is able to charge independently
I guess the lfp600 has a different mppt board, I asked pecron and they said connecting a battery to the solar/HV input would fry it. I settled on a dc to dc boost. How locked down is the battery expansion system? Any chances of adding a homemade 48 volt battery? Still 700 in isn’t bad and makes for a quick expansion to an off grid system.
The expansion battery has multiple communication pins so unlikely to use your own unless it's connected to the higher power charging port like a DIY expansion battery.
Great video, just received mine. I have a folding 300w panel for camping, 18v. Is it ok to wire this up to the aviation port even though the volts are below 32? Seems like I am over the watts on the 100w port and under the volts on the aviation port.
Great video Jason! Hope you can help answer this deal breaker question: Does Pecron E1500LFP or Bluetti AC180 have equivalent feature described below vs EcoFlow App>Energy Management>Backup Reserve and Charge Limit, or Labs Features>Automation? Please make a new video comparing these Apps and features 🙏 I’m new to solar, your videos have helped me immensely🍻. I have been on the fence about Pecron due to lack of firmware upgrade and App until E1500LFP. Looking to upgrade capacity for my Solar priority UPS backup setup for my Fishtanks gears from 700wh to over 1kwh. Currently using River2Pro with AC plugged into wall to keep unit charged up to 70% battery for outage emergency (using Backup Reserve feature), while 100-150w solar input is used to power output and top off 70-90% (using Charge Limit feature). Anytime there’s not enough solar, AC pass through kicks in while keeping battery at 70%. This is all possible with River2Pro after latest App and firmware update. Thanks in advance and for all your amazingly informative videos.
Very interested.nice video ..could you over panel in series...as long you stay under 95 volt...wanted to over panel to maximize the solar input...do I need to worry about amp ? The user manual does not seem to go into maximum solar amp ...only open voltage ..any purpose be appreciated...thx
Amperage amount is controlled by the power ststion automatically. It will limit the amperage at safe levels. You'll just want to make sure your solar array doesn't go over the maximum rated voltage.
About the only thing Pecron lacks is a longer warranty. It's great to see these companies one upping each other, because ultimately the consumer wins:) I like the new grading 2.0, very nice! The only thing missing is being able to combine two units for split phase operation. If they added that, it would kill EcoFlow and Bluetti. Great review as always! You should take a look at the Eco Worthy dual axis solar tracker. A very affordable way to get 30% or more out of your solar panels:)
Rumor is they are coming out with a 3600 watt inverter capacity model. I think thats where they would do that. Time will tell and I hope they do because they are so much more affordable then ecoflow and bluetti. You get a lot for your money with these guys.
@johnmal5975 If you Google Pecron 3600 and click news, it'll bring up 2 websites. The first one appears to be in Mandarin but it auto-translates to English. Scroll down a good ways and you'll see the 3600LFP. It tells a good bit of the stats. If you zoom in on the pic you can read the input voltages. It looks very similar to the 3000wh model. Just has a different screen and a few other changes.
@@johnmal5975The E3600LFP is confirmed. Unknown yet if 2 units can be combined for split phase. E3600LFP is supposed to support 4 Extra Batteries!...that's a lot of capacity.
It's going to take me awhile to go through the old model power stations in the new grading sheet..... so far there is A LOT of red since the standard is much higher now! haha
@@Jasonoid Your sheet will be the gold standard though with how well it's thought out and all the features it takes into account. We really appreciate all the work you put in Jason!
Pecron's expansion batteries are the best with up to 400 watts charging via solar and 30A 12V outs Always pricing better than the only comparable Bluettis
wondering if the e600lfp external charging brick will work on the solar input of this 1500 for slower charging. That charger works on the 2000lfp model just fine. Unless I missed it I couldn't find anywhere on your video if you can control the charging input on the app for this 1500 model.
I want to use a power station to power some computers, monitors etc and have them hooked up 24/7 with the power station having solar & ac power connected at the same time, all the time. This is being done strictly to help lower my electric bill. Assuming the unit has solar charging priority, can you get this unit or any unit to automatically have AC power kick in at say 20% battery power? The goal here is use as much solar power as possible but use AC power to insure the unit never has a full battery drain and shut off.
@@Jasonoidis the first battery serial knob set to two and the second battery set to three ? with the power station being considered one ? or is the first battery after the power station set to one and the second battery set to two ? its not clear to me at all in the instruction manual
@@harrystewart9674 I never changed any knob settings. I just connected them and they communicated properly. I'm guessing you might need to adjust the settings if a second expansion battery is involved.
Thanks for the video, I purchased one of these. Is it normal for them to make a noise? Cracking sounds when I put my ear to the unit. I also plugged in a standard fridge and it sounds like a faint chirping noise or dripping water sound? Thanks
The model I tested didn't make that noise but I have had other brands make noise under heavy loads. Does the crackling noise happen under a large load?
@@Jasonoid yeah it's like crackling sounds when you put your ear to the fan. The little chirping sound was when I had my fridge connected so I guess it was a heavier load however wattage was only showing 124w of power being used? Maybe I'm just not understanding the whole thing. This is my first power station so I'm learning a lot 😀 I appreciate you help, thanks!
Great vids. Exciting stuff coming from pecron !!! One question? Do I need a dc to dc charger for the ep3000 to charge from my vans alternator, to get around 400w? Or is the installed charger fine for that purpose. Thanks
Maybe I missed it if it was asked already. You stated the unit has noise on the inverter (7:30 ish time); HOBOTECH states that it is "pretty clean." Are you both testing the same thing or something different?
Sounds 'pretty noisy' at 7:46 if you ask me. It's popping and crackling worse than other power stations. I put out a power station video today that was clean, you can compare the difference. I also tested the E1500LFP with my dirty electricity meter a few seconds earlier in the video and the reading was so high it didn't show on my meter (2000+mv of noise). It's definitely noisy and I'm not sure how Hobotech proved it was clean.
Great review Jason! Would you be able to test if the E1500LFP can power a full size gas dryer? I've found one shortfall of Pecron's inverter design is that while it has a high rated surge power, it's much shorter surge than competitors. My E2000LFP can't start up my dryer, but my much smaller CTECHi 1200Wh power station has no problem starting it up. Looks like the bidirectional inverter with UPS loses some efficiency compared to their previous models which consistently got over 90% efficiency at 0.2C discharge rate, so a trade-off for the extra features. Still great efficiency for such a large inverter compared to competitors.
can you use a 12v 100 ah battery to charge this? to help make it last longer until i can afford to buy a extra battery i know it will only add around 100 watts but over time that might help over night
I wish the Delta2Max had that DC output range! But it's still a winner on the MPPT inputs. I thought those barrel connectors were only good for 3 amps, not 10😳
Oh, with the expansion battery's own MPPT it might just eek out ahead... Can you charge using all 3 DC inputs at the same time when the battery is connected to the main unit too?
Yes, you can use all three charging ports at the same time! The barrel ports can pull high power briefly, I wouldn't recommend that high of a load for a long time!
What is the maximum solar array can you use it's saying that it E1500 can handle 800 watts I'm not sure if that's maximum ability to charge or is that maximum only 800 w of soler panels
Thank you, Jason. The Pecron E1500lfp is my first power station and I just got it. I'll primarily use it for emergency refrigerator power once in a blue moon. So, I intend to keep it plugged in to AC and was expecting it to maintain a 100% charge, but I see it lost 3% (97%) after 24 hours with no load. Will the unit automatically turn back on at one point to maintain 100% again ? Also, I have yet to connect the app because my router does not support 2.4 ghz. But does the app support a sleep mode, which would possibly lose power slower. Or should I disconnect the power station from AC, turned off and try to remember to charge the unit to 100% every three months or so???
If the unit is completely off it doesn't use much power at all. I'd recommend charging it to 100% for storage and then cycling it down to 50% and back up to 100% every couple months to keep the batteries balanced.
Jason, I have been watching you for a while now and I just wanted to tell you that you’re very very good. You do an excellent job, explaining whatever the product is that you are demonstrating. Keep up the good work young man. You are appreciated.
I appreciate that! Thank you sir!
Thanks!!😊😊Thanks!!
I have to say that I LOVE the 30A DC port which would actually allow you to hook up a much more efficient low wattage AC inverter for really small load so you don't have to fire up the big (somewhat wasteful) built in AC inverter.
I wander what real world numbers would show since that scenario is using the DC to DC converter and then the DC to AC inverter off your choice.
I'm a "retired" EE, so i really appreciate your thoroughness. I've built & installed several multi KW arrays on my roof and property because I found that the topology of my roof only permitted single 6KW & 3KW arrays, and I then tied them together with some other panels, often using solar generators when they were cheap.
I have several engineer friends with battery design expertise, so i'm well covered there as well. Really glad to see someone like you enter the review space because i have lotsa neighbors & friends who call on me for advice & you look like a good resource for those folks!
Keep up the good work!
Mike
Thanks Mike!
Thanks so much for this review. I have been a part-time van dweller since I built out a Ram Promaster in 2018 and have had several different battery options, starting with an AGM-battery Goal Zero, then a crowd-sourced Bluetti (OK, but disappointing in several areas), and finally a Pecron E3000. I didn't know much about the Pecron brand, but it seemed to offer excellent bang for the buck, so I took a chance. It has been excellent and allowed me to go almost 100% electric in the van. Naturally, I use it for the usual stuff: vent fan, Wabasto, lights, and fridge. However, I do most of my cooking using electricity now. The Pecron powers a small microwave, a small electric pressure cooker, an induction burner, and a small capsule-type coffee maker. Naturally, I'm not running all these things simultaneously, and I'm very aware of my power usage. For instance, I may make a couple cups of coffee (about 6-7 minutes) and use the induction burner to fry some eggs (another 5-6 minutes). One surprising and economical find was my 3-quart electric pressure cooker. It uses full power to reach pressure (around 10 minutes) but very little power to maintain pressure as it cycles on and off during that cooking phase.
I can usually recharge the system with the 400 watts of solar that I have on the roof, but I can also run my van's power to an inverter that powers the E3000 power brick and charge that way when I'm driving. The Pecron has turned out to be an excellent choice and is well-built. My unit is simple (not many bells and whistles), but it does the job.
I would love to upgrade to the E1500 plus the expansion battery, but I'm now retired with other responsibilities. Perhaps, someday. Here is a wishful thought to Pecron. Do you want someone to do a real-world test in a van using the E1500 and the accessory battery? I would be happy to comply :). Ahh, yes, wishful thinking. But for now, I'm very happy with my E3000.
Thanks for sharing your awesome experiences with the E3000. You definitely put that unit to the test! Where are you usually residing?
@@Jasonoid I live in the Midwest and do a lot of local camping the states surrounding. Also love to spend time out west in the camper-Arizona, Utah, Colorado, etc.
@Ketogenicinfo I will have to check it out.
Pecron really stepped up their game on this one. The expansion battery is awesome in that it can be used separately, too bad the main unit doesn't have the same capacity though. I love the 90° cables. It's about time somebody finally listened to the public.
As always comma another fantastic video Jason
I have 3 Pecron products and this one is now gonna be my 4th. Love it !!!!!!
I like the upgrades :)
If I may say so, that was a very comprehensive review. Love the UPS feature. Also, this power pack would be awesome in a D.I.Y. truck camper build.
This video was HUGE! So much to test on these units now :) The expansion battery is pretty useful with both the DC charging and DC outputs built into it!
I recently bought 600LFP. One year warranty with purchase, two year with registration. Three year if you complete a feedback survey at registration. I received a replacement 120v AC charger in less than a week from notifying them. Great thorough and organized reviews!
That's a hidden way to get a 3 year warranty. I wonder why they don't "advertise" that out much?
Wow I’m liking this very much for my camping van Thank You Jason.
The large DC output is great for something like that :)
@@JasonoidI think this may be the one I go with if I can sneak it on the credit card that is lol 😂
Thanks Jason for including the clicking test on the solar panels. 👍
You're welcome!
Nice job Jason! Great review and impressive upgrade. Finally someone listened and came out with the 90 degree cables 🎉
The cables are MUCH more compact!
Your the BOSS, thanks for your THOROUGH review of this very impressive product. I ALWAYS TRUST your reviews.
My goal is to show as much as possible in these video so people know what they are buying :)
Fantastic review, it was very concise and detailed. Great job! Love my 600LFP from Pecron and will be picking this up in the very near future. I too found it strange that the 24V Converter worked on the aviation port for charging given it should have needed 32+V, I have to run a 48V on my 600. Have a good one and keep those reviews coming!
Hello Jason,
I have a Pecron E1500LFP and an Ecoflow Delta 2 Max, the inverter of the Delta 2 Max is 2400W and that of the E1500LFP is 2200W.
I replaced my Ecoflow in my camper with the Pecron because the Delta 2 Max does not succeed in starting the air conditioning while the E1500LFP does it without problem.
I bought it with your link during its pre-launch and I am pleasantly surprised by the services it provides me. thank you for your reviews
It's weird how some inverter handle 'surge' current better than others. It's no always the number on the box that makes it better.
Thanks 4 the gr8 review. I bought the Pecron E1500LFP based on your review. I think you might have to give the rating a bump up since they are offering 5 years when you register online.❤
I've adjusted the scoring since the video 👍
@@JasonoidThx 4 the update.
Super in-depth video, such great data. Impressive DC output on the system and extra battery, Pecron has really been upping their game. The new grading system and new overlays are really good! I wonder if you should award extra credit for things like 30A DC output or expansion.
Thanks, Todd! One of my new requirements is to have 150 watts of DC output for powering larger DC loads like diesel heaters. A lot of machines will miss out on that new requirement, this one didn't though! :)
The E600lfp has served me well. It's my favorite small power station. The E1500 looks even more promising.
The jump in AC efficiency with the optional batery was surprising and welcome. Not seen anyone else record this, good job.
I try to do the most in depth testing
Great test Jason!! The new Pecron is a great price at the $899. They are upping their game. Am radio test…💪🏼
Excellent presentation. Thanks for sharing. Love the 12v output options and the high amp loads. Jackery and Bluetti are going to lose truck/van/boat/car business to this unit since they have practically abandoned 12v output options in their newest units. The Pecron E1500 Pro also has some very nice 12v output options. For use in my truck/car/boat where I need strong 12v options - I would pick either of these Pecron units over the newer Jackery/Bluetti units.
I totally agree with you on this. Why have a portable battery with such much power inside to only have 130 watts output on DC?! SO glad Pecron knows what people are looking for!
Ive been waiting for this! I even reached out to them and pleaded for them to let the reviewers get their hands on it before they release it. 😂
Thanks for the new grading system 2.0. For this unit, I think Pecron hit the gold. With a 30a 12V, wireless charger, good UPS, app, expendable (with connectors on this extra battery), a 90 degres connector for the extra batteries, a bunch of cables, Ac cable without brick and all connectors in front of the unit. they start to play in major ligue.
I see your power grading sheet, but I curious about direct comparaison between the Pecron E1500LFP and the Bluetti AC1800. The Bluetti score more but I have a litle cruch on Pecron. What do you thing?
Thanks For the Discount code. I buy one. For the Vanlife, I think it's one of the best one. I already have Delta 2 Max but this EcoFlow mist a huge feature in the 12V 30A. I will replace this unit by the Pecron E1500LFP. It's my favorite one for my use. She have more capacity than Bluetti AC1800 and Solix C1000, She have contectivity than the Pecron E2000LFP didn't have, she have the 30A missing on EcoFlow and she have better charging option than Bluetti AC200MAX.
Thank you for the fantastic review! The EP3000 has some amazing features, including a solar input of 400w, priced at 1238€ for 3kW. That’s truly remarkable in the solar generators/power stations market!
I've pre-ordered one to try out as a single battery, using your code, for a total of 1177€.
Might buy next the E1500LFP bundled with another EP3000 for +7kW total
Follow up with me once you get it and let me know what you think!
Hi there, if you are looking for high-power 12V output the Fossibot F3600 might be interesting for you as well. It has a 3840Wh battery with a 12V 25A output but additionally you get an 3600W inverter, PD outputs, 2000W solar input etc. It is a bit more expensive but considering the features I still consider it a great option at currently around 1600$ here in Europe. Jason reviewed the "little brother" the F2400, this one also offers a 12V 25A output if that's your main criteria.
I watched this video a while back. I enjoyed it and ordered one. Mine is to be delivered Monday the thirteenth of November. Your video with the 600,2000,ant the 1500 was cool because I will now have all three
Phenomenal detailed presentation and succinct. I love this new Pecron . Finally they listened to the consumers and are the first to come out with the 90º cables for the expansion batteries and to boot to make the expansion batteries usable as well. When it comes to power banks I basically use them for recreational and emergency purposes and wished that they would offer more 12V plugs since it is the most efficient and if it is an emergency you don't want to use power hungry appliances. I love the ratio of inverter to battery capacity where if necessary it will power most things and still maintain its portability. I am glad they got rid of the charging brick. I do wish it had an extra or two cigarette plugs and I still feel that the 32V to 95V voc is limited. Jason, again great great job!
I'd just take the 30 amp DC output and split off that with an xt60 to 12v cigarette splitter. Then you could have three 12v cig ports. I personally hate the 12v cig ports, you'll lose about 0.3 volts through them via resistance / heat and they fall out and wiggle loose.
Great review as always Jasonoid :)
P.S. We really enjoyed all of our pecron products that we have over the last 1 year :)
1 x e2000lfp (full 8kw system)
2 x eb3000 batteries
1 x e600lfp
2 x pv300 solar panels
1 x pv100 solar panel
P.S. We are really hoping to be able to review this power station and the e3600lfp power station from pecron :)
How long does it take to charge by solar the units to capacity, or can this be done in a single day by solar? The reason I ask is to see what would happen in an extended power outage, such as after a storm causing disruptions in electrical service? Txs!
Great review as always. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great info! I really like how you can use the expansion battery. I have the Ecoflow Delta 2 with extra battery, and that option is not available.
Looks like some great upgrades!
I would really like to see them get away from those aviation plugs, and go to something more standard, like xt60 or anderson inputs.
I've been watching you for several months and built my own portable unit in a toolbox.
100ah lifepo4, 2000 watt inverter, 40 amp charge controller, 2 fans, fuse block, lights, charger, and four 100 watt panels.
You gave me the confidence to it, and I thank you!👍
Love hearing that! Thanks for sharing
Very nice; you've created another review that invites temptation.
Thank you very much!
Thanks, Jason, I was doing a bit of research on charging a lifepo4 battery using the xt60 port; in my case, mine is 25 amps, not 30 amps, but at least I know it can work. Really appreciate the content, very helpful! Can always get a charger if it doesn't charge it enough.
Can you add a link to an overview of all of your graded solar chargers? Your reviews and analysis is top of the line and simplifies finds for us lay people. Thanks for your channel Jason! You are the best go to out there for solar generators.
You can see my power station grading system HERE: jasonoid.com/powerstations/
Great review. Nice nit. Like the new scoring system. Thanks.
Glad to hear you like the 2.0 Grading System! Now to migrate all the data.... hmmmmm
12 - 18VDC on the Low Power Solar input ... that leaves my single 21.4VDC Solar Blanket out; unless I 'series' two of them & move to the other port. :((
I was so close to grabbing this unit until I seen that. I do have 2 Blankets in Series; but if one fails, I can't just jump to the lower port to keep things going.
How many watts is your solar blanket?
@@Jasonoid Somehow my reply was trashed... so I will try again. Sorry if this turns out as a duplicate.
Mine is a 200 Watt, HardKorr 21.5V @ 9.35A MAX (26.7 VOC) Solar Blanket. (as shown here ua-cam.com/video/gvUPDmtcTyU/v-deo.html).
While I normally use two in series, which would be fine on the 32VDC port.
However, I sometimes like to use just one. In that case, my concern is with the 12 to 18VDC input is too low; while the 32VDC input is too high. I'm kind-a caught in the middle.
My worry is if the 21.4VDC max'ed out on the 18VDC input, it would be damaged.
Thanks for showing this using some common appliances.
Great news from pecron about this model :)
P.S. Pecron has just extended the warranty of the e1500lfp (even if you already bought it) to 5 YEARS !!!!!
P.P.S. Make sure that you get over to the website and register your system today and extend your warranty from 2 years to 5 years !!!!!
P.P.P.S. :)
Yeah, I heard about that change! Great news
@@Jasonoid It's about time that they compete with bluetti and others :)
@@RamblinBobReviews their charge controllers need a little improvement, but they are getting there.
@@Jasonoid We just tested the e2000lfp (upgraded controllers) and the e1500lfp with VOC of 80v and everything ran perfect, So yes, The are getting much better :)
@@RamblinBobReviews we need a 150voc. I only have 1 array under 100v
Great in depth review as alway!
Glad you liked it!
I just found your channel today enjoyed how you hooked up the batteries to the power stations. I have a original my ecoflow delta would love to see a video how to hook up extra battery to itThanks.
I have a video just for you!
ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html
I've been a Pecron fan for a while as I do have several of their products. You can get a 3 year warranty by responding to the service email you get after registration. This would bring their grade up to a "9" on your new scale. (B+) New feature additions are great but their solar 7 pin inputs and voltage requirements drive me nuts.
I got their LP2000 34 days ago but after watching this video ask Pecron if I could return my new unit and upgrade to the E1500 w/ the 3000 battery pack. They said NO! I like the new WiFi capability so I can control the unit remotely specifically turning the inverter on/off according to a schedule. Any idea if I can use my LP2000 to trickle charge the E1500 using the DC In/Out? I do not want my LP2000 to become a boat anchor only after 34 days
@@thetradeshocgannelHow do you like your E2000LFP. Any noted issues.
If one power station is too small, and another is just too big, could it be this one is perfect? I think a lot of buyers will like the versatility and expandability of this particular product, especially at this price point. :)
I like how it's just a little bigger than the AC180 and EF Delta 2.
I really appreciate your review. Lots of information.
I wish they could do a firmware update to change the AC charging speed from the app.
Hi, Jason, Pecron in they facebook was just extend the warranty fot the e1500lfp to 5 years. 😁😀
excellent news!
Does it make change in note in your spreadsheet?@@Jasonoid
@@renyraiche-gregoire4921 I'm going to reach out to my contact to confirm the details of the warranty first.
@@Jasonoid I received my 5 years on my E1500LFP.
Did you received the confirmation, I didn't see it on your Spreadsheet? direct on they facebook it was anouncement and pecron confirm my 5 years on mine. @@Jasonoid
I love your channel and expertise sir.
I preordered the E1500LFP immediately after watching this video. Used your promo code, thanks for that discount!
I see I can add on the EP3000 additional battery for $1300.
In the video you used a 48v battery to charge. My question is, why wouldn't I just buy a 48v 50Ah/2560Wh LiFePO4 online for about $600 and use the aviation style connector? I could buy 2 (+5000Wh!) for less than the price of one Pecron battery. Is there an advantage to the Pecron besides it's cool rugged case?
These will be stationary in one room in the house.
Dan in AZ
Only the proprietary E3000 battery will charge and discharge equally with the power station.
If you use a standalone 48v battery to charge the power station, it won't sync with the power station automatically like the E3000 expansion battery. You'll have to charge it independently.
e600, e1500, e2000 wow, hard to remember that... said facetiously.
Nice video content though. Nice product and great price! Also LFP battery can last 10+ years, yes?
Awesome review Jason!
With the price comparison and expandability of power stations it almost makes more sense to use this for a full time van conversion power source. I have a couple of questions in regards to this.
1) In terms of using it as a power source in a van what are your thoughts when it comes to durability due to vibration of the vehicle or do they do any testing, certification for this kind of environment.
2) One thing that's kept me from using a power station vs an individual component build station is the lack of DC-DC charging.
Noticed that in your video the Pecron perform as one of the slowest charging from the vCctron DC-DC. converter
Saw your workout around video using the Victron DC-DC charger and I'm wondering how this Pecron stacks up or if you could add the results of that test to your overall testing spreadsheet.
3) Follow up to the question above are you able to keep the DC-DC charger and Solar panels connected and charging at the SAME time at high capacity using a Victron Energy Orion 12/24-Volt 20 amp DC-DC Converter or Orion TR DC-DC 12-12- 30AM and somehow plug in a DC-DC charger along with 4x100 Watt panels without maxing out the 700 watt limit so it theoretically has the ability to charge up to 700 Watts using 400 from the panels and 300 from the DC to DC charger acting as a 700 watts solar panels but also having the benefit of charging form the vehicle when sun conditions are not ideal.
4) Is 30A on the DC to DC outlet enough to connect to a 12 volt DC blue sea distro fuse box to run the following:
Air max fan,
LED lighting
2-3 USB charging outlets
12 volt wall mounted fan
12 volt wall mounted LED RV reading light
12 volt water pump
or I'm I better off spreading out each component using the 12 volt cigarette lighter port for set power fridge, some long USB cables for the tech device outlets and barrell plug for the LED lights and Air max fan.
Thank you!
Lots of questions here so I'll do my best to briefly answer them:
1) I don't think they are certified for anything specific but I do feel the E1500lfp is very solidly built and will handle a bit of vibration. You could always build in some sort of rubber feet or isolaters for a van install.
2)When testing with my 24v dc to dc converter I was able to get 260 watts charging on the aviation charging port. If you used the 30 volt victron you'd probably see around 300 to 330 watts charging on that port.
3) You could use both charging ports at the same time for faster charging, just remember the 5521 charging port is limited to 100 watts, so a 120w solar panel is all that would be worth connecting there.
4) All the items you listed are very low wattage devices, no issues at all powering all those at the same time off the 30 amp DC output / distro box.
Awesome! Thank you@@Jasonoid
Noticed that the EP2000 has two aircraft ports rated up to 600 Watts seems like that's exactly what I'm trying to do by having a DC to DC charger and at least 400-600 watts of solar.
The drawback there would be the 20A limit on the barrel plugs to connect to the 12 fuse box vs using the Anderson connector.
If this 1500 had two aviation plugs like the their 2000 model it would be perfect.
What about if I got the EP3000 expansion battery could I achieve what I'm trying to do by running the DC to DC to the power station and Panels directly to the expansion battery while cascading/ connecting both and would they automatically balance each other out.
Sorry for all the questions 😬
or lastly would the best/most efficient option just be a 1000 watt AC inverter on a remote switch to take advantage on the dual charging you demoed so I can turn it on and charge while driving as needed
Can unit solar run in Series & Parallel for 93volts (VOC) 76volts (normal) @ up to 17.2amps (8.6amp x2)* * I assume unit reduces amps to 15amp max input. Thanks for your time.
93 volts is a little high, probably too high for the charge controller. Remember that when it's cold outside solar panels produce higher voltage numbers than their rated VOC so give yourself 5 to 6 volts extra head room.
Did you get a chance to try to check the acceptable Max input on the PV 12 - 18VDC input ??
There are lots of Solar Blankets out there with 21.5VDC voltage, if you only have one.
Pecron told me you have up to 25voc.
Great review. I was wondering how the Pecron E1500LFP does after a few years of usage (reliability, longevity, etc.). Also how does it compare to similar units (Ecoflow, Bluetti, Jackery, etc. equivalents)? It looks like it is cheaper than the leading brands, but what about the other factors. Also is Pecron as good a company to deal with as Ecoflow, Bluetti, etc? Thanks very much.
Thank you Jason for all your videos. Excellent rundown. I'm trying to figure out what's going on at 24:21 though. The nearest panel is not connected. I'm guessing you shot that piece as you were tearing down the setup?
Couldn't hook all 5 of them together, the voltage would be above what the charge controller would allow, so I only connected 4 of them.
Love that old Bestek 300watt inverter... I've had one for 7-8 years and it's still going strong. :-) Nice specs on that Pecron, and I was worried about the gap between 100 watt port and the other starting at 32volts, leaving a "no man's land" for many 200-300 watt panels (Like my Bluetti PV200) But seeing that 32volt port charging at 24volts makes things better as I'd definitely make that with 2 portable panels!
Yeah, I definitely can't guarantee it works will all loads under 32 volts, it just worked with my 24v converter. Super interesting!
Thanks, Jason. Your reviews are most helpful. Does the faster AC charging have any adverse effects on the battery or number of charging cycles?
It's not affected much on an LFP battery. These batteries can be cycled so many times without degradation it's almost impossible to even notice a difference.
@Jasonoid I dont know if you still have this Pecron power station. I have a very specific usecase and was wondering if you could confirm. Will this unit charge with 2 DC sources conncted simultaneously. 12V from the vehicle connected to the 5521 barrel port at 100W and a 200W solar panel connected to the aviation style DC port. I am trying to maximize the DC power input into the unit..so that it charges from both the vehicle and solar when I am driving and solar only when I am parked
Any thoughts or ideas for adapting a 90 degree elbow on the 700 Watt solar charging input cable (GX165)? Seems like a flimsy connection that sticks straight out & not secure. This is even more of a concern if one is considering using the DC/DC higher wattage converter for charging while driving. Also seems like they are running a large amount of current through that GX16-5 plug?
AWESOME review!!!! Not only did I give you a thumbs up but I also asked for notifications for any new videos. I'm not an expert on power stations but I've watched a ton of these power station YT review videos lately and as a reviewer you are at the top of the list. Super thorough review and I can't think of anything you could do to improve your reviews. So keep up the GREAT work....much appreciated!!!
Regarding the Pecron E1500LFP, it looks like an excellent product that checks all of the boxes. The only thing that I'd like to see is more AC output ports (only 3?). I'd like to see a minimum of 4 AC ports and 5/6 would be more ideal...even if they had to make the unit a bit larger to accommodate them.
Is there any reason why or any limitations regarding using an power extension cord with this unit to expand the number of AC ports? If not then this will likely be my solution to the limited number of ports.
Do you happen to know if the E1500LFP in combo with the EP3000 would qualify for the Federal Tax "rebate" of 30%? Or do you know of any resources (other than an accountant) that could clarify on that issues ?
I'm not sure about the tax question.
As for use extension cords and surge protectors to get more outlets... There isn't an issue doing that. You'd want to make sure you use a 12awg extension cable and use a high quality surge protector and you'll be golden running multiple devices at once through 1 outlet on the power station.
Great review. PECRON stepping up their game. I do wish the expansion batteries had AC , at least 1.
If they had AC output they would be their own power station though! haha
Apparently, they listen to consumers and reviewers. The website now lists the warranty as 2+3 years.
What is the max amp on your 24v boost converter? 19:19
I’m waiting on your review on the Oupes Mega 2 before I choose between it and the Pecron E1500. The high amperage DC output is a big selling point for me in a power station…
The Oupes Mega 2 review is almost done!
Hopefully they'll send you the new 3600LFP to test.
I think that should be announced later this year!
Have an ac180 in my shopping cart. This seems like the better buy for only 100 bucks more.
Both are great units, it just depends what you are looking for.
Very impressive, thanks Jason. The short warranty is still mystifying me. Can there be any other reason besides inferior reliability? Maybe there's too much marketing/gimmicky bs surrounding long warranties and they just don't want to invest in that side of things? If it does come down to reliability then I guess they'll need to up their game further still before the brand can hit new heights. Looks like they're on their way though.
Warranties cost big money! Probably the reasoning.
@@Jasonoid Yeah I guess it's too much to ask from a smaller brand. But with the popularity they have now I expect them to start addressing this soon, otherwise I can only assume that reliability is an issue.
Thank you ..I purchased for 4 units after seeing your video.i noticed you use in your test a small inverter plug in I to to 12 volt xt60 ...did you do that conversion by yourself ...I ask because I want a run a small ac fridge and fell it's to much energy lost true the big inverter ...do they make cigarette plug into xt60..or it need to be home made ...thx
I built the adapter myself. It's an xt60 to Anderson powerpole. You could use any connection you wish to connect the inverter!
Great review as usual sir! This is definitely on my short list! Shame about the bit of noise on the inverter but I guess you can't have everything!
Well, maybe one day a company will meet all my requirements!
Any recommendations on some rigid panels that I could mount on my RV or rooftop tent for the E1500 LFP? Don’t wanna use flexible or portable folding ones. Your videos have helped me so much! Thanks!
hi,great vid! Can I charge a DC cigar input for a portable fridge and also plug my portable AC into the 12Volt AC input simultaniously? Or do I need to get a smaller unit as well for the fridge? thanks!
You can run both DC loads and AC loads at the same time.
@@Jasonoid ok thanks!
i just got twi expansion batteries from Pecron for the 1500 , what do you set the serial number knob to on each ? 1 then 2 ? or is the piwer station considered one , so the batteries setting should be 2 and 3 ?
This is a super helpful review. Will it combine the charge from the two DC inputs, e.g. solar in one and car charging in the other?
Good job but I would love to know how long would the battery last if I would plug let's say; 3 fridges and a1,500w heater.
Thanks
Here's how you Calc runtimes:
Power station capacity / wattage of loads = runtime in hours
3072wh / 2000 watts = 1.53 hours runtime 👍
Usually take off a little bit of additional time that the inverter uses as well.
Well, just with the 1500w heater alone, this having 1536Wh, would only run an hour.
@@YouLookinAtMe-Bro yep, electric heaters are not a good way to get heat in an emergency. Think of using alternate options like running a natural gas furnace or propane options. If you ever wondered why your electric bill is sky high in the winter, it's from running electric space heaters.
😳Wow, Pecron really seems to be responsive to customer demands. But, really, how hard would it be to offer a 3 year warrantee?
I guess that depends on how reliable the product is!
3 should be the minimum at this price point, ecoflow is 5 years
They do have a 3 year warranty. All you do is respond to their email after your warranty registration.
@@rickandpiesretirementadven9000 owners manual and website say 1 year warranty plus 1 additional year with registration. They need to publish the 3 year warranty if they indeed have one.
Does adding an additional battery, mean that the power bank will take the same amount of time to charge or take longer with an additional battery hooked up? This would be by using the 600 watt capacity solar panels during an extended outage?? Can (main unit & battery(s) fully be recharged in 1 day ?😢
Adding an expansion battery does add to the total charging time. You can add 400 watts of solar panels to the expansion battery at the same time so it can charge with 700 watts of solar plus 400 watts of solar if you wanted.
Have you tried to charge the unit using a truck bed 400W AC plug available on newer model trucks
I like this unit. I really like that the extra battery plug actually has the 90 degree turn in it. I do not know of any others that have done that yet. I wish it had 2 of the 32 to 95 volt solar inputs but I guess it is fine that it only has one. I need to get me one of those anderson to aviation plug so I can see what voltage the high voltage inputs actually go down to on my e2000lfp. I think rambling bob said his turns on around 12 volts on the 32 to 95 volt input on the e2000lfp. I would have to ask him or try to find that video again to be sure of that.
It actually comes with the Aviation to APP adapter, both the battery and the power station have one each.
@@Jasonoid I went ahead and made a cord to mc4 to connect my solar cables for the pecron to my 0-to-48-volt dc 480-watt ac to dc converter. Now I can test any power station with the supplied solar cables. Tested it this morning and found mine shows power input symbol on the e2000lfp display but does not charge around 24 volts, does not start charging until about 31 volts and will keep taking a charge until about 28 volts. Then it stops charging.
Great review! I wonder, what the parasitic drain would have been, comparing your DC to AC inverter vs the internal inverter drain. Having that lower watt AC inverter opens up options. I have that same one! :)
Well it would better (the little inverter pulls around 9 watts when nothing is running on it) but you are limited to 300 watts or less when using the little inverter vs 2200 watts of the built in inverter so you have trade offs. The best thing you can have the option since the it has the 30 amp DC port.
Do I understand you right, that the app only works on Wi-Fi, not Bluetooth? So you can’t use this unit with the app when you are camping, for example? Thanks!
From what I understand, you only need WiFi the first time to set the app up.
Then you can turn off the WiFi and only use Bluetooth.
Pecron has a short video on their UA-cam channel.
Good luck.
Great job, enjoyed the video!
When expansion battery is connected, and solar is connected to ONLY the power station.....does the battery and power station both recharge together?
Yes, when they are connected together the battery and power station act like one unit. They charge and discharge together.
@@Jasonoid thank you!
Jason I just started watching you mainly I've been interested in getting a alternat power supply I first looked at some other videos just to get an idea of what's good at a price I could afford the Pecron E600LFP looked like a good choice but then I got to thinking about what I'd be using it for and how adaptable it is not great I really think that even though It might take a little longer but the Pecron E1500LFP has a lot more power and the option to add a second battery makes it a better choice, I really appreciate your break down so unless I find something better at a decent price my minds made up thanks again
The Pecron E1500LFP is an excellent option. If you want something even bigger the new E3600LFP is priced really well and will give you very long runtimes.
@@Jasonoid Thanks I looked at the E3600LFP all I need now is the money
Did you try giving 12V on the aviation input where you put in 24V. Does that make it go faster than 100W?
Can you charge the expansion battery along with the connected the power station with just the ac cable? More convenient than charging separately. The versatility is that is able to charge independently
When charging with AC input it charges both the power ststion and the battery at the same time, so the 1400 watts gets divided.
Thanks Jason 😎
You're welcome! Thanks for always watching the channel :)
What panels are you using at @31:51 in the video charging the expansion battery?
31:51 is the end of the video, I'm not sure what you meant.
@@Jasonoid Sorry it should have been 29:35
That's this project here: ua-cam.com/video/agK3rrwSifU/v-deo.html
This cart will work with any 200w panel
@@Jasonoid Thank you. I will watch that video.
Finally higher DC output from a small power station!
I know, right! Awesome they included that!
I guess the lfp600 has a different mppt board, I asked pecron and they said connecting a battery to the solar/HV input would fry it. I settled on a dc to dc boost.
How locked down is the battery expansion system? Any chances of adding a homemade 48 volt battery?
Still 700 in isn’t bad and makes for a quick expansion to an off grid system.
The expansion battery has multiple communication pins so unlikely to use your own unless it's connected to the higher power charging port like a DIY expansion battery.
Great video, just received mine. I have a folding 300w panel for camping, 18v. Is it ok to wire this up to the aviation port even though the volts are below 32? Seems like I am over the watts on the 100w port and under the volts on the aviation port.
You can try to see if it charges, it might not accept a charge but it shouldnt damage anything.
Great video Jason! Hope you can help answer this deal breaker question: Does Pecron E1500LFP or Bluetti AC180 have equivalent feature described below vs EcoFlow App>Energy Management>Backup Reserve and Charge Limit, or Labs Features>Automation? Please make a new video comparing these Apps and features 🙏 I’m new to solar, your videos have helped me immensely🍻.
I have been on the fence about Pecron due to lack of firmware upgrade and App until E1500LFP. Looking to upgrade capacity for my Solar priority UPS backup setup for my Fishtanks gears from 700wh to over 1kwh. Currently using River2Pro with AC plugged into wall to keep unit charged up to 70% battery for outage emergency (using Backup Reserve feature), while 100-150w solar input is used to power output and top off 70-90% (using Charge Limit feature). Anytime there’s not enough solar, AC pass through kicks in while keeping battery at 70%. This is all possible with River2Pro after latest App and firmware update.
Thanks in advance and for all your amazingly informative videos.
Nope, Bluetti and Pecron do not offer those features in the smart app.
Thanks for replying, that’s too bad.
Very interested.nice video ..could you over panel in series...as long you stay under 95 volt...wanted to over panel to maximize the solar input...do I need to worry about amp ? The user manual does not seem to go into maximum solar amp ...only open voltage ..any purpose be appreciated...thx
Amperage amount is controlled by the power ststion automatically. It will limit the amperage at safe levels. You'll just want to make sure your solar array doesn't go over the maximum rated voltage.
@@Jasonoid .. thank you
About the only thing Pecron lacks is a longer warranty. It's great to see these companies one upping each other, because ultimately the consumer wins:) I like the new grading 2.0, very nice! The only thing missing is being able to combine two units for split phase operation. If they added that, it would kill EcoFlow and Bluetti. Great review as always! You should take a look at the Eco Worthy dual axis solar tracker. A very affordable way to get 30% or more out of your solar panels:)
Rumor is they are coming out with a 3600 watt inverter capacity model. I think thats where they would do that. Time will tell and I hope they do because they are so much more affordable then ecoflow and bluetti. You get a lot for your money with these guys.
@johnmal5975 If you Google Pecron 3600 and click news, it'll bring up 2 websites. The first one appears to be in Mandarin but it auto-translates to English. Scroll down a good ways and you'll see the 3600LFP. It tells a good bit of the stats. If you zoom in on the pic you can read the input voltages. It looks very similar to the 3000wh model. Just has a different screen and a few other changes.
@@johnmal5975The E3600LFP is confirmed. Unknown yet if 2 units can be combined for split phase. E3600LFP is supposed to support 4 Extra Batteries!...that's a lot of capacity.
It's going to take me awhile to go through the old model power stations in the new grading sheet..... so far there is A LOT of red since the standard is much higher now! haha
@@Jasonoid Your sheet will be the gold standard though with how well it's thought out and all the features it takes into account. We really appreciate all the work you put in Jason!
Pecron's expansion batteries are the best with up to 400 watts charging via solar and 30A 12V outs
Always pricing better than the only comparable Bluettis
wondering if the e600lfp external charging brick will work on the solar input of this 1500 for slower charging. That charger works on the 2000lfp model just fine. Unless I missed it I couldn't find anywhere on your video if you can control the charging input on the app for this 1500 model.
No adjustable charging on this model, but I don't see why using the E600LFP charger wouldn't work to charge it slower, creative idea!
I want to use a power station to power some computers, monitors etc and have them hooked up 24/7 with the power station having solar & ac power connected
at the same time, all the time. This is being done strictly to help lower my electric bill. Assuming the unit has solar charging priority, can you get this unit or any unit to automatically have AC power kick in at say 20% battery power? The goal here is use as much solar power as possible but use AC power to insure the unit never has a full battery drain and shut off.
Montek new X1200 or X2000 has the functions you need
do you have a video on the expansion batteries and the proper way to hook up two of the them to the 1500LFP
It's easy, they just connect. It's not complicated like the older E2000LFP. It also states how to do it in the owners manual.
@@Jasonoidis the first battery serial knob set to two and the second battery set to three ? with the power station being considered one ? or is the first battery after the power station set to one and the second battery set to two ? its not clear to me at all in the instruction manual
@@harrystewart9674 I never changed any knob settings. I just connected them and they communicated properly. I'm guessing you might need to adjust the settings if a second expansion battery is involved.
Thanks for the video, I purchased one of these. Is it normal for them to make a noise? Cracking sounds when I put my ear to the unit. I also plugged in a standard fridge and it sounds like a faint chirping noise or dripping water sound? Thanks
The model I tested didn't make that noise but I have had other brands make noise under heavy loads. Does the crackling noise happen under a large load?
@@Jasonoid yeah it's like crackling sounds when you put your ear to the fan. The little chirping sound was when I had my fridge connected so I guess it was a heavier load however wattage was only showing 124w of power being used? Maybe I'm just not understanding the whole thing. This is my first power station so I'm learning a lot 😀 I appreciate you help, thanks!
Great vids. Exciting stuff coming from pecron !!!
One question?
Do I need a dc to dc charger for the ep3000 to charge from my vans alternator, to get around 400w?
Or is the installed charger fine for that purpose.
Thanks
You'll need to boost the input voltage higher than 12v to get faster charging.
Maybe I missed it if it was asked already. You stated the unit has noise on the inverter (7:30 ish time); HOBOTECH states that it is "pretty clean." Are you both testing the same thing or something different?
Sounds 'pretty noisy' at 7:46 if you ask me. It's popping and crackling worse than other power stations. I put out a power station video today that was clean, you can compare the difference.
I also tested the E1500LFP with my dirty electricity meter a few seconds earlier in the video and the reading was so high it didn't show on my meter (2000+mv of noise). It's definitely noisy and I'm not sure how Hobotech proved it was clean.
Great review Jason!
Would you be able to test if the E1500LFP can power a full size gas dryer?
I've found one shortfall of Pecron's inverter design is that while it has a high rated surge power, it's much shorter surge than competitors. My E2000LFP can't start up my dryer, but my much smaller CTECHi 1200Wh power station has no problem starting it up.
Looks like the bidirectional inverter with UPS loses some efficiency compared to their previous models which consistently got over 90% efficiency at 0.2C discharge rate, so a trade-off for the extra features. Still great efficiency for such a large inverter compared to competitors.
I got an electric dryer at home so I can't test that specifically, bummer!
@@JasonoidAw darn. Hopefully you get the E3600LFP to test and if it supports 240V, you can test on your electric dryer.
can you use a 12v 100 ah battery to charge this? to help make it last longer until i can afford to buy a extra battery i know it will only add around 100 watts but over time that might help over night
Yep, 12v LFP battery would work well to extend the runtime. It would charge around 100 watts
@@Jasonoid redodo 100ah mini's are about 200 each right now i might buy 4 to wire them into a 48v to help charge the e1500lfp faster
I wish the Delta2Max had that DC output range! But it's still a winner on the MPPT inputs. I thought those barrel connectors were only good for 3 amps, not 10😳
Oh, with the expansion battery's own MPPT it might just eek out ahead...
Can you charge using all 3 DC inputs at the same time when the battery is connected to the main unit too?
I wish the D2M had 1500-2000 watts input through the MPPTs
Yes, you can use all three charging ports at the same time! The barrel ports can pull high power briefly, I wouldn't recommend that high of a load for a long time!
What is the maximum solar array can you use it's saying that it E1500 can handle 800 watts I'm not sure if that's maximum ability to charge or is that maximum only 800 w of soler panels
You could have 1000 watts connected, you just never want to go over the maximum voltage input rating. Going over on amperage is okay.
Thank you, Jason. The Pecron E1500lfp is my first power station and I just got it. I'll primarily use it for emergency refrigerator power once in a blue moon. So, I intend to keep it plugged in to AC and was expecting it to maintain a 100% charge, but I see it lost 3% (97%) after 24 hours with no load. Will the unit automatically turn back on at one point to maintain 100% again ? Also, I have yet to connect the app because my router does not support 2.4 ghz. But does the app support a sleep mode, which would possibly lose power slower. Or should I disconnect the power station from AC, turned off and try to remember to charge the unit to 100% every three months or so???
If the unit is completely off it doesn't use much power at all. I'd recommend charging it to 100% for storage and then cycling it down to 50% and back up to 100% every couple months to keep the batteries balanced.
@@Jasonoid Thanks so much. Do you know if the app will let me charge the unit to 100% if I leave it plugged in to AC?
@charliesaul729 it will automatically charge to 100%