My favorite moment from the actual tabletop game is when our party was attempting to speak to a planetary governor, but he kept refusing and flaking on us. One player was a rogue trader that was essentially a galactic Baroness and the wealthiest of our group, but also the least applicable for combat. So we finally corner this guy to talk to him and he attempts to use the excuse of needing to run the planet full of workers and soldiers he's on, and our girl says; "Oh, you won't need to be doing that. I've already paid them. *All of them.* Out of my own pocket, for the hour that we will be conversing." " *Sit.* " This woman paid off the wages of *an entire planet* purely to speak to a particular person for one hour. She was nuts lmao
"Let me tell you how much of a PEASANT you are by paying THE WHOLE PLANET one year of their salaries in advance just so I can talk to you for one hour. First: you are POOR. Second..."
In a oneshot we had a rogue trader, techpriest, Drukhari kabalite and ork weirdboy. They needed to get to the records, and everyone proposed a different strategy. The Rogue Trader said to just buy their eay to the records The Techpriest wanted to commune with the machine spirit of the cogitators to grant access to the records Our Drukhari said to just kill the guy And the Ork Weirdboy just stormed into the room and said "I'z got me Boyz waitin' to krump yaz it yoo'z dun't give us da wreck-ords."
Rogue Traders have so much freedom it's kinda insane. Basically the only two things they absolutely can't do are: 1) Work with Chaos or use Chaos 2) Rebel against the Imperium or subvert it for outside powers Other then those two, everything else is a matter of connections, personal power, and how much trouble it would be for the Inquisitiont to actually go after you
@@NoOne-us9osthey are not explicitly allowed to cavort with chaos, and it is likely just as “illegal” to do so for them as well. However, they also are immensely powerful outside of the Warrant, and can likely force the inquisition to overlook things, especially in the more distant reaches of the imperium.
@@bananananananabatman8999 chaos is the main no no, partly because of religious dogma, which hates chaos just as much if not more than interacting with aliens, but also because getting involved in it is a pretty sure fire way to eventually get publicly corrupted down the line, in which case the inquisition is coming after you anyway, whereas simply selling xenos tech is a (relatively) victimless crime so theres less need for them to get rid of u
Further, they can do basically whatever they want with Xenos. It’s perfectly chill for a rogue trader to ‘sanction’ a xeno to have them in their retinue
I would in fact encourage asking them, as long as you have enough influence that you would be noticed if you suddenly went missing. Odds are you will inexplicably find yourself a decent amount richer than before.
In a game of rogue trader our rogue trader house was specialized in cleaning up, repairing, and purifying lost and captured ships into usable ones to put them back in the hands off the navy. So this means we're basically used car salesmen except we have go into those cars and remove the chaos/ork/genestealer/rak'gul infestations before we can sell them, also ripping stuff off of space hulks... now that i think about it we really were just playing space hulk but as super rich people
I kind of love that idea. I'm tempted to basically do that, but with ground vehicles so the entire party is stuck dealing with Crazy Hassan and figuring out how to steal/repair Knights and small Titans.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Given that ive been asking for a video on Vlad Von Carstein for 40 days now and you still haven’t delivered, I’d say you have a talent for disappointment. (This is a joke take your time.)
Imperial ship crashed in a planet. Local Exodite: “I say, what’s coming out of that vessel?” Local Necron: “Mechanicus.” Local xenos: “Oh shit, there goes the planet.”
You know what just might be the weirdest part of 40k? It's that with rogue traders around - Generals, Admirals, Nobles, Merchant Lords and more all in one - the Galaxy hasn't actually turned into one big ass oligarchy despite the golden man being gone for 10000 years.
Cause it's Feudal more than Mercantile... being "rich" is meaningless if you aren't Noble. Rogue Traders are NOT inside the Imperium and their success is always ursuped by the Nobility & Bureaucrats... once an Expanse has become economically viable enough to raise a Crusade among the second & third rankings that want to move up a slot, Rogue Traders by definition get pushed out as it becomes a Sector & therefore part of the Imperium.
@dalegribble7939 it's not the Judeo-American Empire and it's subjugated European vassals... the High Lords of Terra aren't owned puppets of the "Oligarchs." It's more accurate to compare it to the Russian Federation where Putin being so Pro-Liberal & Pro-Western was unwilling to do what was necessary to fully deal with how bad the Judeos were looting Russia in the 90s... so the worst of them were jailed, exiled, or assassinated but the rest were left alone to operate as long as they don't interfere too much in the political process.
17:45 Fun fact: The guy on the very bottom left of this Habsburg family tree who is the heir apparent to headship of the house is also a professional race car driver, and a very good one at that.
I've played ttrpg in Rogue Trader. After one session, the captain was so orderly that Craftworld Eldar would get nausea, and the rest of the team went heretical in five seconds. It was awesome half a year of playing.
@@rickychapman3377 I'm running a TTRPG game of Rouge Trader right now where the Trader himself is an actual age of sail pirate from a feudal world (he turned out to be an illegitimate son and the other heirs died)
@@AaronMears-c1y Okay, I love the idea of "But he's from a feudal world!" and then the reality is the piracy is the same anywhen, and sufficiently legal piracy is indistinguishable from business.
@@AaronMears-c1yYou can fiddled around with skills. Some rogue trader PCs are not good at piloting and navigating and space. They are good at people. And some other PC will be at the wheels.
I know that this is a war game setting and all, but I still wish rogue traders were the main focus. They have a lot more storytelling potential and can still be dystopian without constantly being depressingly grimdark or obsessed with events more than ten thousand years ago.
There's plenty of novels about them & the RPG is definitely the best one I played with only Black Crusade playing Chaos having the same sense of "Epicness"... Dark Heresy is far lower level (you've almost leveled out of the base campaign & gotten to Ascension [6th out of 8th iirc] to where Rogue Trader levels start) & Deathwatch was decent but kinda repetitive. Never played Only War so I can't speak for an Imperial Guard based campaign but I feel like it would be a mix of the issues that Dark Heresy has of feeling very "small" & the repetitiveness of Deathwatch. Though I could just be biased since Rogue Trader has good Naval fights possible within it.
@@nationalsocialism3504 there aren't that many novels about them though, when they should have the focus of something like ciaphas cain. They are most of the time relegated to showing up as side characters.
@@nationalsocialism3504 yes i said not that many, if I remember it's the omnibus you are reading and the old rogue trader book, which is apparently quite meh, and that's it. When Rogue traders could be the Lotr of 40k.
I absolutely love that the exemption that the Trade Warrant gives Rouge Traders suggests that the Emperor is completely fine with working with xenos for the benefit of the imperium. The fact it _specifically_ mentions it, however, implies that he also thought that it was better to only let _some_ people work with xenos, probably to prevent dumb***s dealing with Drukari, like that one story with the Tau.
Actually working with the DE isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Risky as hell, yes, but Incubi make for damn fine mercs & their weaponry is pretty much the best that's actually safely usable by humans, maybe barring some of the Dark Age stuff. Plus trading them stuff in exchange for the release of some high value prisoners would be appreciated by the IoM.
Rogue Trader: “It was a pleasure working with you commander, as well as your men. Tell you what, let’s all go to a Pleasure World for a celebration! My treat!” Yeah, a Rogue Trader is rich enough to do that.
Imperial nobles are usually like that. As a Rogue Trader you deal a lot with other Imperial nobility who are just as stinking rich and effed up as you. You meet people who own a sector. They are the kind of people who can easily pony up what you demand for a weird book you got on some alien planet without flinching.
This is a spoiler for the Of Mars trilogy, but there is also some canon precedent for *counterfeit Rogue Traders*, with forged Warrants of Trade. They can go undetected for decades, even centuries, before a particularly insightful administrator takes notice.
One thing I love about Rogue Traders is how varied and diverse they are in terms of goals and attitudes. You have some who are conquisitidors,bringing the "light of The God-Emperor" to long forgotten human worlds,some who are merchant princes that esentially own entire star systems,some who are explorers that want to discover and settle new worlds for the Imperium and then some who are basically just government sanctioned pirates.
In the game you could decide exactly what your writ was. It could be a writ limited to a general direction or to create a circuit of certain worlds or deal with a minor xenos population. You are way above the 20 000 people on your ship and much higher than the millions on a planet.
I think it’d be interesting if the imperium dissolved into this collection of thousands of Rogue Trader empires all with different interpretations of the imperial truth and imperial beliefs.
So the Warhammer Fantasy's Empire in space but even more so lol. Sadly with Robot Gorilla man back, along with Old man Lion, that scenario is probably gone.
In regards to Owlcat's Rogue Trader RPG, I was very disappointed by the lack of xeno companions and how the only two xenos you can recruit are both fucking Elder. The only two aliens they added are the ones that look like weird humans with pointy ears. I wanted an Ork Bloodaxe mercenary, a Jokaero, a Sslyth, a Kroot and a Tau. That would have been awesome.
Also how the Eldar companions straight up should be dead the second you see them in act 3 and onwards. Owl Cat really shit the bed with giving you reasons for keeping Xenos alive beyong maybe getting to fuck them.
All our companions need to have a character + background, multiple possible character arcs based on player choices, and an involvement with the main story in some way. Say what you want about our xenos companions, but they're not with us because they're simply paid as guns-for-hire. Having other xenos could be fun, but they wouldn't fit into the story or have much character at all and that's why owlcat didn't commit to them.
@@christopherxue6967 "wouldn't fit into the story" Complete non-argument. They would fit into the story of Owlcat put in the effort to make them fit. The old Rogue Trader RPG had recruitable xenos it so I don't at all get what you mean. Any of the examples I mentioned would have fit better than having a Space Marine companion, yet they added the Space Wolf anyway.
I just want to add to what the Imperium can create for habitation. If it's a lifeless rock, they can still drill underneath and create vast cities underground. Even something like a gas giant can and will be used for orbital stations, some the size of small moons with their own ecosystem in glass domes. Humans are very stubborn about making all their resources useful.
another important note is since space is so fucking huge there could genuinely be millions of worlds already in imperial borders that are not yet discovered because of various reasons. the realistic ones: could be that a dim star makes detection of planets nigh impossible so what looks like singular stars could be home to many planets. worlds without suns that could be habitable with imperium tech could be lurking out there. there's the good old imperial incompetence leaving discovered worlds before and after the great crusade to become lost completely. systems once considered no go zones due to natural phenomenon or filled with death worlds could naturally lose their dangerous flair over time and become explorable again. the unrealistic but plausible in 40k ones: warp travel from what ive heard acts through transit ways that are lit up by the emperor like a galaxy wide spider's web so it could be that large chunks of the galaxy are simply disconnected from the warp. the cicatrix maledictum could be an in lore explanation for them opening up. warp storms that last many years could simply stop occuring. worlds shrouded away by xenos could malfunction and unveil a system of paradise worlds that the eldar do not want touched. ork empires could cannibalise themselves into extinction leaving habitable but damaged worlds ready for exploration and colonisation. in short even if the imperium's borders were never to expand again, rogue traders could spend thousands of years discovering new and incredible planets only a few hundred light years away.
the proper krumpin series of stories is a great rogue traders daily routine example def worth checking out vox in the voids vids narrating them it’s absolute gold
Rogue Traders have, since I joined the 40k Fandom, represented to me an absolutely astounding storytelling tool which I have used in multiple RPGs in order to play around with the conventions of Warhammer and justify the absolute zaniness I know my players want to get up to.
It's an opportunity to point a group of players to the worlds outside known space and have them poke around. You are not as all-powerful as it sounds. You might have a few ships and a million people as servants but there are Imperial nobles who control uncounted billions across a sector.
Honestly the idea of rogue traders who used to be rival terran warlords gives me an idea for a traitor auxilia army led by a rogue trader who is salty about Big E getting rid of his fiefdom, so his plan is to invade terra to get it back.
13:52 What’s even more fascinating is that the Tau have likely used turned Rogue Traders to spread the Greater Good across the Galaxy. There was a short story about a Tau aligned pirate fleet that operated on the Western half of the Imperium, far from Tau space and when the Tau were using warp skipping FTL. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were hundreds, if not thousands, more groups like that waiting for the Tau Empire to arrive.
Since you're talking about space pirates, Id really like if you covered eldar corsairs (ynnari too)... There's not that many good UA-cam videos about them... Take responsability, you're the one who made me an eldar player and fan of their lore.
Which, incidentally, is what would make him a great model for a GM run Rogue Trader in a TTRPG campaign. The party would essentially be giving the best training arc they could to him and anyone even slightly familiar with Jaune would immediately understand the situation.
Hell yeah, I found you a year or so ago and I can't stop loving your content. Your humor is right up my alley, these things make me forgive you for liking the elder
From high school all through college I was playing that game and frequently listening to the OST on the bus ride home ahhhhh, I was pretty obsessed with it, might boot it up after work some day soon
@@TheLordofMetroids Huge if true get rid of all the dumbass bots keeping people on these apps that shouldn't. Now never ever touch the Russian Badger and we big chilling
That Sunless Sea music made me wish the Rogue Trader video game could have been a 40k version of Sunless Sea or Sunless Sky. That would have been so cool.
Honestly the Imperium would benefit so much from Land Value Taxes imo, if i was a Rogue Trader i would definitely give LVT REVENUE as my tax to the Imperium government and of course set up my own Planetary system-wide empire if possible with my own Dynasty or dynasties*..
Not just WH40k. I played many RPGs. Kotor, dragon age, witcher, baldurs gate, numenera, planescape, etc. This is my absolutely favorite rpg for now. It just nuts. The fact that you have to read the text, gave the developers more freedom in the branching and choices. Nearly all choices in this game are long lasting.
There. That one. The space marine 30-something seconds in. He's the one why me and my sister like Space Wolves. I hope he redeemed them(or will, if you haven't played the CRPG yet) for you too.
I always thought of the Roman Crassus as the ancient world’s form of Rogue Trader. Crassus was arguably the world’s richest person ever. Some estimates put his wealth in the neighborhood of half a trillion dollars US. He would speculate on property in Rome by paying off the Fire Brigade to not respond to house fires that he sent thugs to start, then buy the husked out property for nothing, sending the poor homeowner to slavery. Crassus would literally buy armies to March around while he tried to knock off Caesar and Pompey in the political arena. Unfortunately for Crassus, he thought to do the rogue trader bit of leaving the empire with his bought army to bring a whole new province into the empire, but he selected… poorly. He went after Parthia. After pissing off the Armenian king by being a douchebag, and refusing to listen to the Armenian king’s advice, he stomped off after the highly mobile horse archers of Parthia with heavy infantry without using the suggested route from the Armenians. He got caught in a plain by the horse archers, whose composite bows could penetrate the soldier’s shields, and you got the amusingly dark scenario of Roman legionaries chasing horse riders with their shields nailed to their arms with arrows. Crassus ended up getting captured, and due to his reputation as a wealthy buttplug, the Parthians melted down some of their treasures and then poured it down Crassus’s throat… while he was still alive. They they sent his skull back to Rome, covered in gold.
19:32 dayum...i mean your 100% right but still dayum.....and the fact you used a picture of him from the statue scene is even MORE worthy of dayum....touche mr no work, touche
Rogue Trader the TTRPG is maybe the most high-powered of the game. Simply because you play Imperial nobility. You are not necessarily the richest of the rich, there are Imperial nobles who control chartist trade combines, a subsector, an agriworld farm co-op etc. But you are still far above the 20 000 dudes on your starship. The Warrant can have all sorts of writs. Like any stuff the Emperor personally granted it is hard to ignore. You can have a writ to go a certain direction or supply a certain route. When a new writ is created these days, the high lords usually wants something done. Most of your stuff is private. You can't go to Imperial adepts or even the chumps on some planet and order them around. But you can pay people a ton of money or be named planetary governor.
At some point I want to try and make some custom rogue trader models to ally into my space marine army for friendly games. My chapter is hyper-focused on resurrecting/restoring the wreckage of lost knights with totally not warp touched tech and I love the idea of a rogue trader dynasty recognizing a cash cow when they see it and glomming onto their fleet like a remora for easy profit.
A fun video to see would be the direct comparison of the Imperium’s agents like the Rogue Traders, Inquisitors and similar in what each’s tug and pull are with their typically Emperor-granted authority.
In those circles you start to meet with your equals. You might have a million ratings in your fleet you can boss around but the sector lord has several trillions.
rgue traders techically predate the setting in a way as in Laserburn 40k's sort of spiritural inspiration, theres merchant barons who are literally just rogue traders but more space operea
19:34 Did you just put an image of Jaune Arc from RWBY in your video? Great, now I'm imagining him as a rogue trader in the 40k universe trying to live up to his legendary ancestor's example. His friends from Team JNPR and Team RWBY are now part of his retinue.
@@adalsal816 No. No he is not 😂 That being said I still like the guy. He's like one of the few characters that actually gets good development anymore while most of the cast is just blah at this point. Rogue trader Jaune honestly sounds kind of hilarious to me. Poor guy bumbling his way troughs 40k getting by on sheer dumb luck and having Bad ass friends to back him up.
7:58 Based Recettear reference. Also worth noting, if you really want the Rogue Trade experience, this is basically how you have to play the game Star Sector as well, just without the piece of paper that puts you above the law and the ungodly amounts of pre-existing capital even the poorest Rogue Traders have. All the way down to basically creating your own kingdom of colonized worlds that will almost certainly put you in conflict with existing factions.
Profit factor is a fun mechanic. You increase it by starting ongoing operations. A colonised world you own might add profit factor 5 to your house. But this means you got to take care of it. If that colony fails, you obviously lise that profit factor. The same if the chartist captains working s a route you established get whacked by eldar corsairs. And this profit factor will put you above most people in the galaxy, but not above your peers. The other weirdos and wankers who make up the Imperial nobility and high adepts. If you think 10 ships is cool, there are people out there who control 20-30 worlds.
I would like to take this opportunity before the video goes live to proudly announce I fell off.
Fell of what? Are you okay? Did you hurt yourself?
Get well soon. Be careful not to fall off any more high places.
I CRAVE LUTHOR HARKON! SO I WISH FOR TRADER TO BE NAMED LUTHOR HARKON!
My brother in Christ you literally got me into warhammer
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@@explore7891 you will be happy relatively soon
I can't believe they've brought capitalism to space. Now, where is Tim Curry supposed to escape to?
*SPAIIIICE*
Maybe its time for him to go even further beyond?
Or there's the warp.
@@RageTH22 And if not that, then maybe that shadow zone the necrons are keeping to themselves.
The dark gods of the warp will deliver us from the evils of capitalism
@@tytothetoetaker9788 Tim Curry does walk with Trazyn's protection.
“What inspired you to go out and bring planets into the Imperium’s fold?”
“Money!”
All are servants of the God-Emperor regardless of their personal motivations... the God-Emperor doesn't care why you serve only that you serve!!!
I read that last bit in Mr. Krabs voice, and I'm not ashamed
@@jedediahcoulbourne1791 its The only correct voice
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We are in the money!
We are in the money!
My favorite moment from the actual tabletop game is when our party was attempting to speak to a planetary governor, but he kept refusing and flaking on us. One player was a rogue trader that was essentially a galactic Baroness and the wealthiest of our group, but also the least applicable for combat.
So we finally corner this guy to talk to him and he attempts to use the excuse of needing to run the planet full of workers and soldiers he's on, and our girl says;
"Oh, you won't need to be doing that. I've already paid them. *All of them.* Out of my own pocket, for the hour that we will be conversing."
" *Sit.* "
This woman paid off the wages of *an entire planet* purely to speak to a particular person for one hour.
She was nuts lmao
"Rogue traders aren't nuts, they are rich enough to be eccentric "
"I'M RICH, BITCHES!" - Baroness Makesallott.
"Let me tell you how much of a PEASANT you are by paying THE WHOLE PLANET one year of their salaries in advance just so I can talk to you for one hour.
First: you are POOR. Second..."
Profit Factor is a hell of a drug.
In a oneshot we had a rogue trader, techpriest, Drukhari kabalite and ork weirdboy. They needed to get to the records, and everyone proposed a different strategy.
The Rogue Trader said to just buy their eay to the records
The Techpriest wanted to commune with the machine spirit of the cogitators to grant access to the records
Our Drukhari said to just kill the guy
And the Ork Weirdboy just stormed into the room and said "I'z got me Boyz waitin' to krump yaz it yoo'z dun't give us da wreck-ords."
"Abelard, introduce me"
Even if he wasn't my Tank I'd keep him for that dialogue option in my party.
Abelard is such a badass
Abelard, inform this man how bad he's fucked up.
Absolute Chad. I don't know how much he gets paid, but it's not enough.
Yes sir / ma'am
Rogue Traders have so much freedom it's kinda insane. Basically the only two things they absolutely can't do are:
1) Work with Chaos or use Chaos
2) Rebel against the Imperium or subvert it for outside powers
Other then those two, everything else is a matter of connections, personal power, and how much trouble it would be for the Inquisitiont to actually go after you
They can’t use chaos openly
@@NoOne-us9osthey are not explicitly allowed to cavort with chaos, and it is likely just as “illegal” to do so for them as well. However, they also are immensely powerful outside of the Warrant, and can likely force the inquisition to overlook things, especially in the more distant reaches of the imperium.
@@bananananananabatman8999 chaos is the main no no, partly because of religious dogma, which hates chaos just as much if not more than interacting with aliens, but also because getting involved in it is a pretty sure fire way to eventually get publicly corrupted down the line, in which case the inquisition is coming after you anyway, whereas simply selling xenos tech is a (relatively) victimless crime so theres less need for them to get rid of u
Further, they can do basically whatever they want with Xenos. It’s perfectly chill for a rogue trader to ‘sanction’ a xeno to have them in their retinue
@@bananananananabatman8999 that’s what I said
I once heard a joke about Rouge Traders that said "Never ask a Rouge Trader the species of his girlfriend"
Girlfriend*S*
I would in fact encourage asking them, as long as you have enough influence that you would be noticed if you suddenly went missing. Odds are you will inexplicably find yourself a decent amount richer than before.
*Rogue
Filthy xenos-loving Make Up Dealers
@@travelingspartan2035Trader
In a game of rogue trader our rogue trader house was specialized in cleaning up, repairing, and purifying lost and captured ships into usable ones to put them back in the hands off the navy.
So this means we're basically used car salesmen except we have go into those cars and remove the chaos/ork/genestealer/rak'gul infestations before we can sell them, also ripping stuff off of space hulks... now that i think about it we really were just playing space hulk but as super rich people
I kind of love that idea. I'm tempted to basically do that, but with ground vehicles so the entire party is stuck dealing with Crazy Hassan and figuring out how to steal/repair Knights and small Titans.
What was your methods to cleanse the chaos taint?
@@MadMalkavianSororita's tears
@@flaviomonteiro1414 WHAT O.o?
And how do you get those?!
@@MadMalkavianOnions.
Im expecting at least one reference to spaceballs
You will be disappointed
@@pancreasnowork9939 Given that ive been asking for a video on Vlad Von Carstein for 40 days now and you still haven’t delivered, I’d say you have a talent for disappointment.
(This is a joke take your time.)
@@pancreasnowork9939HERECY
Guess we'll just need to wait for Rogue Trader 2: The Search for More Money
Imperial ship crashed in a planet.
Local Exodite: “I say, what’s coming out of that vessel?”
Local Necron: “Mechanicus.”
Local xenos: “Oh shit, there goes the planet.”
You know what just might be the weirdest part of 40k? It's that with rogue traders around - Generals, Admirals, Nobles, Merchant Lords and more all in one - the Galaxy hasn't actually turned into one big ass oligarchy despite the golden man being gone for 10000 years.
Cause it's Feudal more than Mercantile... being "rich" is meaningless if you aren't Noble. Rogue Traders are NOT inside the Imperium and their success is always ursuped by the Nobility & Bureaucrats... once an Expanse has become economically viable enough to raise a Crusade among the second & third rankings that want to move up a slot, Rogue Traders by definition get pushed out as it becomes a Sector & therefore part of the Imperium.
I mean in practical terms it's a theocratic oligarchy
@@dalegribble7939it really is. Its weird but it makes sense.
@dalegribble7939 it's not the Judeo-American Empire and it's subjugated European vassals... the High Lords of Terra aren't owned puppets of the "Oligarchs." It's more accurate to compare it to the Russian Federation where Putin being so Pro-Liberal & Pro-Western was unwilling to do what was necessary to fully deal with how bad the Judeos were looting Russia in the 90s... so the worst of them were jailed, exiled, or assassinated but the rest were left alone to operate as long as they don't interfere too much in the political process.
Literally the High Lords of Terra before Gorillaman came back.
17:45 Fun fact: The guy on the very bottom left of this Habsburg family tree who is the heir apparent to headship of the house is also a professional race car driver, and a very good one at that.
Grimdark Mass Effect my beloved
I've played ttrpg in Rogue Trader. After one session, the captain was so orderly that Craftworld Eldar would get nausea, and the rest of the team went heretical in five seconds. It was awesome half a year of playing.
hell ya currently doing one whare we've become a roge trader our ship has become a mobile death world with a entire zoo escaped on borde
@@rickychapman3377 I'm running a TTRPG game of Rouge Trader right now where the Trader himself is an actual age of sail pirate from a feudal world (he turned out to be an illegitimate son and the other heirs died)
@@rickychapman3377fuckin same guys we use roll 20 but it's based
@@AaronMears-c1y Okay, I love the idea of "But he's from a feudal world!" and then the reality is the piracy is the same anywhen, and sufficiently legal piracy is indistinguishable from business.
@@AaronMears-c1yYou can fiddled around with skills. Some rogue trader PCs are not good at piloting and navigating and space. They are good at people. And some other PC will be at the wheels.
"90% crewed by orks", the coolest rogue trader ever.
8:00 Panc spreading the rat agenda I see.
Wow it’s actually you damn
Hi Gaijin
Holy Sigmar - it's the man himself! :)
I see no rats, merely a strange beastman
I know that this is a war game setting and all, but I still wish rogue traders were the main focus. They have a lot more storytelling potential and can still be dystopian without constantly being depressingly grimdark or obsessed with events more than ten thousand years ago.
There's plenty of novels about them & the RPG is definitely the best one I played with only Black Crusade playing Chaos having the same sense of "Epicness"... Dark Heresy is far lower level (you've almost leveled out of the base campaign & gotten to Ascension [6th out of 8th iirc] to where Rogue Trader levels start) & Deathwatch was decent but kinda repetitive. Never played Only War so I can't speak for an Imperial Guard based campaign but I feel like it would be a mix of the issues that Dark Heresy has of feeling very "small" & the repetitiveness of Deathwatch.
Though I could just be biased since Rogue Trader has good Naval fights possible within it.
@@nationalsocialism3504 there aren't that many novels about them though, when they should have the focus of something like ciaphas cain. They are most of the time relegated to showing up as side characters.
@@Tall-Hobbit Blackstone Fortress is the omnibus that I'm currently reading... the main character is a Rogue Trader
@@nationalsocialism3504 yes i said not that many, if I remember it's the omnibus you are reading and the old rogue trader book, which is apparently quite meh, and that's it. When Rogue traders could be the Lotr of 40k.
40k 1e was literally called "Rogue Trader", and the first tabletop RPG was also Rogue Trader.
I absolutely love that the exemption that the Trade Warrant gives Rouge Traders suggests that the Emperor is completely fine with working with xenos for the benefit of the imperium. The fact it _specifically_ mentions it, however, implies that he also thought that it was better to only let _some_ people work with xenos, probably to prevent dumb***s dealing with Drukari, like that one story with the Tau.
Actually working with the DE isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Risky as hell, yes, but Incubi make for damn fine mercs & their weaponry is pretty much the best that's actually safely usable by humans, maybe barring some of the Dark Age stuff. Plus trading them stuff in exchange for the release of some high value prisoners would be appreciated by the IoM.
How dare those Tau have not read the Codex Drukari and sacrificed a small amount of population to accurately assess the intention of another species.
The Emperor thought He would be around forever. When He acted in the world, He could countermand His own writs.
@@SusCalvin Well, he was a perpetual so he had every reason to believe that.
Rogue Trader: “It was a pleasure working with you commander, as well as your men. Tell you what, let’s all go to a Pleasure World for a celebration! My treat!”
Yeah, a Rogue Trader is rich enough to do that.
"Oh? This bauble? T'was Papa last gift before his passing... yes, its a Glorianna-class Battleship, why are you so impressed?"
Lord Captain, is that a wise use of resources?
@@PapaWerserian "Waste? I'M RICH, BITCH! If I do not waste, how to show off?"
Imperial nobles are usually like that.
As a Rogue Trader you deal a lot with other Imperial nobility who are just as stinking rich and effed up as you. You meet people who own a sector.
They are the kind of people who can easily pony up what you demand for a weird book you got on some alien planet without flinching.
@@SusCalvin nah - Imperial Nobles can use the resources of an entire continent or part of a global economy.
Rogue Traders OWN SEVERAL PLANETS!
This is a spoiler for the Of Mars trilogy, but there is also some canon precedent for *counterfeit Rogue Traders*, with forged Warrants of Trade. They can go undetected for decades, even centuries, before a particularly insightful administrator takes notice.
Incendia Chorda would be a good example of a "Pious Missionary" Rogue Trader, especially as she was more or less raised by the ecclesiarchy.
Context: Mindbroken and brainwashed while sealed in a sabotaged stasis cell.
@@chickenbacon5197yet she is still sensible enough to acknowledge she made bad when confronted ua-cam.com/video/lt0xeFflRZw/v-deo.html
YOU HEAR ME! NAME THE TRADER THE GREAT NAME LUTHOR HARKON! DO IT!
The sugarless one fears the best pirate to unlive
"What would you want to be in the 40k universe? Space Marine? What Chapter? Maybe a planetary governor? The mechanicus?"
Me: Rogue Trader sounds fun.
The role of sector noble and rogue trader starts to blend.
Always my go to choice when asked what I'd want to do in 40k.
19:32 using Jaune as a stand-in for a whiny wimp who is descended from heroes was not what I expected, but definitely appreciated. 🤣
poor sod, cant catch a break
One thing I love about Rogue Traders is how varied and diverse they are in terms of goals and attitudes. You have some who are conquisitidors,bringing the "light of The God-Emperor" to long forgotten human worlds,some who are merchant princes that esentially own entire star systems,some who are explorers that want to discover and settle new worlds for the Imperium and then some who are basically just government sanctioned pirates.
In the game you could decide exactly what your writ was. It could be a writ limited to a general direction or to create a circuit of certain worlds or deal with a minor xenos population.
You are way above the 20 000 people on your ship and much higher than the millions on a planet.
@@PelinalDidNothingWrong those last ones are called "Corsairs".
@@Jamhael1 no, they are called "british"
19:32 I was really not expecting a RWBY reference of all things in a video about rogue traders
@@Midnight-Starfish same.
Rouge trader with an ancient of lineage of power.
Legacy hunter with an old as sword that’s seen tons of action.
I think it’d be interesting if the imperium dissolved into this collection of thousands of Rogue Trader empires all with different interpretations of the imperial truth and imperial beliefs.
So the Warhammer Fantasy's Empire in space but even more so lol. Sadly with Robot Gorilla man back, along with Old man Lion, that scenario is probably gone.
And the Conquistador has found work again 40,000 years into the future.
In regards to Owlcat's Rogue Trader RPG, I was very disappointed by the lack of xeno companions and how the only two xenos you can recruit are both fucking Elder. The only two aliens they added are the ones that look like weird humans with pointy ears. I wanted an Ork Bloodaxe mercenary, a Jokaero, a Sslyth, a Kroot and a Tau. That would have been awesome.
Winterscale has a Sslyth
Also how the Eldar companions straight up should be dead the second you see them in act 3 and onwards. Owl Cat really shit the bed with giving you reasons for keeping Xenos alive beyong maybe getting to fuck them.
All our companions need to have a character + background, multiple possible character arcs based on player choices, and an involvement with the main story in some way. Say what you want about our xenos companions, but they're not with us because they're simply paid as guns-for-hire. Having other xenos could be fun, but they wouldn't fit into the story or have much character at all and that's why owlcat didn't commit to them.
@@christopherxue6967 "wouldn't fit into the story"
Complete non-argument. They would fit into the story of Owlcat put in the effort to make them fit. The old Rogue Trader RPG had recruitable xenos it so I don't at all get what you mean. Any of the examples I mentioned would have fit better than having a Space Marine companion, yet they added the Space Wolf anyway.
@@sic6603Their reason for living is that you are a Rogue Trader and say they can.
I just want to add to what the Imperium can create for habitation. If it's a lifeless rock, they can still drill underneath and create vast cities underground. Even something like a gas giant can and will be used for orbital stations, some the size of small moons with their own ecosystem in glass domes. Humans are very stubborn about making all their resources useful.
Can't wait for Owlcat to make Rogue Trader 2: The Search For More Money
Rogue traders the freest people in the imperium.
Some might say the only free people in the Imperium.
@@GhostBear3067 As close as one can get to free in 40k anyway.
@@honeybadger6275 it is an admittedly low bar to clear.
another important note is since space is so fucking huge there could genuinely be millions of worlds already in imperial borders that are not yet discovered because of various reasons.
the realistic ones: could be that a dim star makes detection of planets nigh impossible so what looks like singular stars could be home to many planets. worlds without suns that could be habitable with imperium tech could be lurking out there. there's the good old imperial incompetence leaving discovered worlds before and after the great crusade to become lost completely. systems once considered no go zones due to natural phenomenon or filled with death worlds could naturally lose their dangerous flair over time and become explorable again.
the unrealistic but plausible in 40k ones: warp travel from what ive heard acts through transit ways that are lit up by the emperor like a galaxy wide spider's web so it could be that large chunks of the galaxy are simply disconnected from the warp. the cicatrix maledictum could be an in lore explanation for them opening up. warp storms that last many years could simply stop occuring.
worlds shrouded away by xenos could malfunction and unveil a system of paradise worlds that the eldar do not want touched. ork empires could cannibalise themselves into extinction leaving habitable but damaged worlds ready for exploration and colonisation.
in short even if the imperium's borders were never to expand again, rogue traders could spend thousands of years discovering new and incredible planets only a few hundred light years away.
feel free to add any other ideas in the comments, id love to hear it
I’ve been watching older videos, and I gotta say, the Pelinal Whitestrake video is by far my favorite.
I think that's the first I watched and I still find the descriptions of his utter all encompassing hatred of elves hilarious
@@obnoxiouspedantUnless the elf is named Teclis apparently
the proper krumpin series of stories is a great rogue traders daily routine example
def worth checking out vox in the voids vids narrating them it’s absolute gold
god damn it, I really don't want things to appear in my feed two whole days before im able to watch it
Understood sir, won't happen again 😂
Rogue Traders have, since I joined the 40k Fandom, represented to me an absolutely astounding storytelling tool which I have used in multiple RPGs in order to play around with the conventions of Warhammer and justify the absolute zaniness I know my players want to get up to.
It's an opportunity to point a group of players to the worlds outside known space and have them poke around.
You are not as all-powerful as it sounds. You might have a few ships and a million people as servants but there are Imperial nobles who control uncounted billions across a sector.
Honestly the idea of rogue traders who used to be rival terran warlords gives me an idea for a traitor auxilia army led by a rogue trader who is salty about Big E getting rid of his fiefdom, so his plan is to invade terra to get it back.
13:52 What’s even more fascinating is that the Tau have likely used turned Rogue Traders to spread the Greater Good across the Galaxy. There was a short story about a Tau aligned pirate fleet that operated on the Western half of the Imperium, far from Tau space and when the Tau were using warp skipping FTL. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were hundreds, if not thousands, more groups like that waiting for the Tau Empire to arrive.
Some of the most tolerant people in the Imperium.
Since you're talking about space pirates, Id really like if you covered eldar corsairs (ynnari too)... There's not that many good UA-cam videos about them...
Take responsability, you're the one who made me an eldar player and fan of their lore.
Truthfully, Rogue Traders seem to have the coolest job. I would easily take that if it was offered just so I can build my own vassal empire.
Hell I'd take working for a rouge trader over the hundreds of horrible lives possible in 40k lol
@@xbox360hurley4 I have to agree with you on that.
"... is an opposite in every way" *Shows Jaune*.
Dude chill, cut my man some slack, he is trying.
Which, incidentally, is what would make him a great model for a GM run Rogue Trader in a TTRPG campaign. The party would essentially be giving the best training arc they could to him and anyone even slightly familiar with Jaune would immediately understand the situation.
@@Sorain1mechanicus ruby
“And then every planet in the Rouge Trader’s possession is glassed”
Not if you’ve got a C’than son they don’t!
Nomos is best son, change my mind
Absolutely love rogue traders, the tabletop was a big part of my early introduction to the setting.
In case you want a priest picture: look up Hieronymus Doloroso from the CRPG, not going to get much more "40K priest" than that guy.
Hell yeah, I found you a year or so ago and I can't stop loving your content. Your humor is right up my alley, these things make me forgive you for liking the elder
Love it that you use FTL music. Brings back good memories, sleepless nights and Giant Alien Spiders
Thank you, I could not place the music and it was driving me to Chaos.
From high school all through college I was playing that game and frequently listening to the OST on the bus ride home ahhhhh, I was pretty obsessed with it, might boot it up after work some day soon
Having Jaune be the representation of the 40x great-grandchild who sucks is so accurate.
Goddamn.
Yeah I laughed at that too
@@IAmTanker he’s trying his best but like the priamrchs he didn’t have his pops guidance to make him better at doing stuff
Makes me want to go back and give the Rouge Trader game another go.
You can Rogue my Trader… any day 👍
Easily my favorite quote
I hate these premiers. Now I am just going to have this video in my subscription feed for the next 2 days and not be able to watch it.
I'm sorry that happened 🤣 angry👺
Right? If it's not a live stream it massively diminishes my desire to watch it because of the premiere system.
@@TheLordofMetroids Huge if true get rid of all the dumbass bots keeping people on these apps that shouldn't. Now never ever touch the Russian Badger and we big chilling
Using Jaune Arc as an example of a coward grandson of a hero is such a deep cut lmao
That Sunless Sea music made me wish the Rogue Trader video game could have been a 40k version of Sunless Sea or Sunless Sky. That would have been so cool.
Honestly the Imperium would benefit so much from Land Value Taxes imo, if i was a Rogue Trader i would definitely give LVT REVENUE as my tax to the Imperium government and of course set up my own Planetary system-wide empire if possible with my own Dynasty or dynasties*..
Not just WH40k.
I played many RPGs. Kotor, dragon age, witcher, baldurs gate, numenera, planescape, etc.
This is my absolutely favorite rpg for now. It just nuts.
The fact that you have to read the text, gave the developers more freedom in the branching and choices. Nearly all choices in this game are long lasting.
There. That one. The space marine 30-something seconds in. He's the one why me and my sister like Space Wolves.
I hope he redeemed them(or will, if you haven't played the CRPG yet) for you too.
We goon for Cassia in this household
I always thought of the Roman Crassus as the ancient world’s form of Rogue Trader. Crassus was arguably the world’s richest person ever. Some estimates put his wealth in the neighborhood of half a trillion dollars US. He would speculate on property in Rome by paying off the Fire Brigade to not respond to house fires that he sent thugs to start, then buy the husked out property for nothing, sending the poor homeowner to slavery. Crassus would literally buy armies to March around while he tried to knock off Caesar and Pompey in the political arena.
Unfortunately for Crassus, he thought to do the rogue trader bit of leaving the empire with his bought army to bring a whole new province into the empire, but he selected… poorly. He went after Parthia. After pissing off the Armenian king by being a douchebag, and refusing to listen to the Armenian king’s advice, he stomped off after the highly mobile horse archers of Parthia with heavy infantry without using the suggested route from the Armenians. He got caught in a plain by the horse archers, whose composite bows could penetrate the soldier’s shields, and you got the amusingly dark scenario of Roman legionaries chasing horse riders with their shields nailed to their arms with arrows. Crassus ended up getting captured, and due to his reputation as a wealthy buttplug, the Parthians melted down some of their treasures and then poured it down Crassus’s throat… while he was still alive. They they sent his skull back to Rome, covered in gold.
Being a Rogue Trader would be sooo amazing
A rouge trader movie series would go hard
19:32 dayum...i mean your 100% right but still dayum.....and the fact you used a picture of him from the statue scene is even MORE worthy of dayum....touche mr no work, touche
Was not expecting a Jeanne Cameo from RWBY but hey I'm all for it.
I was having a rough day today, saw this came out last night but was too tired. Needed this humor to help the day.
Oh man... being a Rogue Trader during the great crusade:
Imagine being a truck driver, only you have no weigh stations, or freeway... and no roads.
You timed this perfectly for the Steam sale lmao
Really love your videos. If there’s any chance you’re reading this, please make more. I will binge all of them like a man dying of thirst.
Rogue Trader the TTRPG is maybe the most high-powered of the game. Simply because you play Imperial nobility.
You are not necessarily the richest of the rich, there are Imperial nobles who control chartist trade combines, a subsector, an agriworld farm co-op etc. But you are still far above the 20 000 dudes on your starship.
The Warrant can have all sorts of writs. Like any stuff the Emperor personally granted it is hard to ignore. You can have a writ to go a certain direction or supply a certain route. When a new writ is created these days, the high lords usually wants something done.
Most of your stuff is private. You can't go to Imperial adepts or even the chumps on some planet and order them around. But you can pay people a ton of money or be named planetary governor.
Oh, Colin. You really are the 5th choas god
At some point I want to try and make some custom rogue trader models to ally into my space marine army for friendly games. My chapter is hyper-focused on resurrecting/restoring the wreckage of lost knights with totally not warp touched tech and I love the idea of a rogue trader dynasty recognizing a cash cow when they see it and glomming onto their fleet like a remora for easy profit.
“I don’t care if I go blind, I don’t need to see the price tag anyways”
AAAAA!! I'm gettin too much money!
"Opps asked for some initiative, blew up their whole quadrant"
"I'm movin like Oppenheimer"
A fun video to see would be the direct comparison of the Imperium’s agents like the Rogue Traders, Inquisitors and similar in what each’s tug and pull are with their typically Emperor-granted authority.
In those circles you start to meet with your equals. You might have a million ratings in your fleet you can boss around but the sector lord has several trillions.
Amazing video, can’t wait for the Cawl episode
Mandatory comment to boost the algorithm, so Pancreas doesn't have to switch to an even cheaper brand of wine.
"Why did you become a rogue trader?"
For the reputation
For the money
and for the fun but mostly for the money.
Ey, nice to see Jaune from RWBY in one of these. He's the best. Also, entertaining video as always
rgue traders techically predate the setting in a way as in Laserburn 40k's sort of spiritural inspiration, theres merchant barons who are literally just rogue traders but more space operea
19:34
Did you just put an image of Jaune Arc from RWBY in your video? Great, now I'm imagining him as a rogue trader in the 40k universe trying to live up to his legendary ancestor's example. His friends from Team JNPR and Team RWBY are now part of his retinue.
Jaune is not beating those self insert allegations 😂
@@adalsal816 No. No he is not 😂
That being said I still like the guy. He's like one of the few characters that actually gets good development anymore while most of the cast is just blah at this point. Rogue trader Jaune honestly sounds kind of hilarious to me. Poor guy bumbling his way troughs 40k getting by on sheer dumb luck and having Bad ass friends to back him up.
Sororitas Nora Valkyrie with a thunder hammer? I can dig it.
Abelard, introduce me to this video
Keep up the good work Pancreas!
Reading that aloud made me think youve never said that yourself.
That joke at the end has to be one of the worst attempts at humor I have ever heard and I like it
Every time you mentioned how much money they have I thought of drowning a planet in assault mechs
That’s just a scouting force too
@@HaloFTW55 scouting force of warlord titans
I know what that greatest line is. If memory serves, it is, "Seneschal, please get me away with this treachery."
Rogue traders are the best!
Rogue Traders are basically Starsector player characters
Definitely the best life in this hellhole of a universe.
That end card sounded like what slaanesh whispered to the guy that became a harp
7:58 Based Recettear reference. Also worth noting, if you really want the Rogue Trade experience, this is basically how you have to play the game Star Sector as well, just without the piece of paper that puts you above the law and the ungodly amounts of pre-existing capital even the poorest Rogue Traders have. All the way down to basically creating your own kingdom of colonized worlds that will almost certainly put you in conflict with existing factions.
Every time I watch I can't help but think about the game FTL
Great video, very interesting and less-covered subject!
Meanwhile dogs of war: that’s why I contracted that chaos warrior and zombie as my bodyguard
Empire State troops : 💀
Profit factor is a fun mechanic. You increase it by starting ongoing operations. A colonised world you own might add profit factor 5 to your house. But this means you got to take care of it. If that colony fails, you obviously lise that profit factor. The same if the chartist captains working s a route you established get whacked by eldar corsairs.
And this profit factor will put you above most people in the galaxy, but not above your peers. The other weirdos and wankers who make up the Imperial nobility and high adepts. If you think 10 ships is cool, there are people out there who control 20-30 worlds.
Came for my love of all things Rogue Trader. Subbded for the fun message at the very end of the video. :D
If I've learned anything about 40k it is that come hell high water or xenos you WILL be paying your taxes. Rowboat Girlieman will have his beans
Ah! 19:31 Jaune jumpscare
I guess I'll satisfy my need to hear your voice by playing RogueTech again.
"Venture forth into the dark,
Domination in our hearts"
🎶
"It's like an infinite feedback loop of rich assholes" 😂😂 I aspire, sir.
4:59 shut it, i like your funny writing
The real beauty of art being subjective!
My favorite thing above all else is they can sanction xenos. Date an eldar? Ork bodygaurd? Whats the inquisitor gunna do tell the emperor hes wrong?
woe to the chaos attackers when the starship they board is crewed by 90% orks