Rogue Traders - Money, Power, and More Money
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Lore Dump
20:59 - Conclusion
21:49 - Skin
Music:
Sunless Sea - Wolfstack Docks
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I would like to take this opportunity before the video goes live to proudly announce I fell off.
Fell of what? Are you okay? Did you hurt yourself?
Get well soon. Be careful not to fall off any more high places.
I CRAVE LUTHOR HARKON! SO I WISH FOR TRADER TO BE NAMED LUTHOR HARKON!
My brother in Christ you literally got me into warhammer
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@@explore7891 you will be happy relatively soon
I can't believe they've brought capitalism to space. Now, where is Tim Curry supposed to escape to?
*SPAIIIICE*
Maybe its time for him to go even further beyond?
Or there's the warp.
@@RageTH22 And if not that, then maybe that shadow zone the necrons are keeping to themselves.
The dark gods of the warp will deliver us from the evils of capitalism
@@tytothetoetaker9788 Tim Curry does walk with Trazyn's protection.
“What inspired you to go out and bring planets into the Imperium’s fold?”
“Money!”
All are servants of the God-Emperor regardless of their personal motivations... the God-Emperor doesn't care why you serve only that you serve!!!
I read that last bit in Mr. Krabs voice, and I'm not ashamed
@@jedediahcoulbourne1791 its The only correct voice
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We are in the money!
We are in the money!
"For God, for Spain, and to get rich."
Well, when a formula works, it works I guess.
Long live the Spanish imperium of man!
No one expects the Spanish imperium.
@@khylerbane4523Cue a trio of red colored priests of the Ecclesiarchy.
Yup!
My favorite moment from the actual tabletop game is when our party was attempting to speak to a planetary governor, but he kept refusing and flaking on us. One player was a rogue trader that was essentially a galactic Baroness and the wealthiest of our group, but also the least applicable for combat.
So we finally corner this guy to talk to him and he attempts to use the excuse of needing to run the planet full of workers and soldiers he's on, and our girl says;
"Oh, you won't need to be doing that. I've already paid them. *All of them.* Out of my own pocket, for the hour that we will be conversing."
" *Sit.* "
This woman paid off the wages of *an entire planet* purely to speak to a particular person for one hour.
She was nuts lmao
"Rogue traders aren't nuts, they are rich enough to be eccentric "
"Abelard, introduce me"
Even if he wasn't my Tank I'd keep him for that dialogue option in my party.
Abelard is such a badass
Abelard, inform this man how bad he's fucked up.
Absolute Chad. I don't know how much he gets paid, but it's not enough.
Yes sir / ma'am
Rogue Traders have so much freedom it's kinda insane. Basically the only two things they absolutely can't do are:
1) Work with Chaos or use Chaos
2) Rebel against the Imperium or subvert it for outside powers
Other then those two, everything else is a matter of connections, personal power, and how much trouble it would be for the Inquisitiont to actually go after you
They can’t use chaos openly
@@NoOne-us9osthey are not explicitly allowed to cavort with chaos, and it is likely just as “illegal” to do so for them as well. However, they also are immensely powerful outside of the Warrant, and can likely force the inquisition to overlook things, especially in the more distant reaches of the imperium.
@@bananananananabatman8999 chaos is the main no no, partly because of religious dogma, which hates chaos just as much if not more than interacting with aliens, but also because getting involved in it is a pretty sure fire way to eventually get publicly corrupted down the line, in which case the inquisition is coming after you anyway, whereas simply selling xenos tech is a (relatively) victimless crime so theres less need for them to get rid of u
Further, they can do basically whatever they want with Xenos. It’s perfectly chill for a rogue trader to ‘sanction’ a xeno to have them in their retinue
@@bananananananabatman8999 that’s what I said
I once heard a joke about Rouge Traders that said "Never ask a Rouge Trader the species of his girlfriend"
Girlfriend*S*
I would in fact encourage asking them, as long as you have enough influence that you would be noticed if you suddenly went missing. Odds are you will inexplicably find yourself a decent amount richer than before.
*Rogue
Filthy xenos-loving Make Up Dealers
Im expecting at least one reference to spaceballs
You will be disappointed
@@pancreasnowork9939 Given that ive been asking for a video on Vlad Von Carstein for 40 days now and you still haven’t delivered, I’d say you have a talent for disappointment.
(This is a joke take your time.)
@@pancreasnowork9939HERECY
Guess we'll just need to wait for Rogue Trader 2: The Search for More Money
You know what just might be the weirdest part of 40k? It's that with rogue traders around - Generals, Admirals, Nobles, Merchant Lords and more all in one - the Galaxy hasn't actually turned into one big ass oligarchy despite the golden man being gone for 10000 years.
Cause it's Feudal more than Mercantile... being "rich" is meaningless if you aren't Noble. Rogue Traders are NOT inside the Imperium and their success is always ursuped by the Nobility & Bureaucrats... once an Expanse has become economically viable enough to raise a Crusade among the second & third rankings that want to move up a slot, Rogue Traders by definition get pushed out as it becomes a Sector & therefore part of the Imperium.
I mean in practical terms it's a theocratic oligarchy
@@dalegribble7939it really is. Its weird but it makes sense.
@dalegribble7939 it's not the Judeo-American Empire and it's subjugated European vassals... the High Lords of Terra aren't owned puppets of the "Oligarchs." It's more accurate to compare it to the Russian Federation where Putin being so Pro-Liberal & Pro-Western was unwilling to do what was necessary to fully deal with how bad the Judeos were looting Russia in the 90s... so the worst of them were jailed, exiled, or assassinated but the rest were left alone to operate as long as they don't interfere too much in the political process.
Literally the High Lords of Terra before Gorillaman came back.
Rogue Trader: “It was a pleasure working with you commander, as well as your men. Tell you what, let’s all go to a Pleasure World for a celebration! My treat!”
Yeah, a Rogue Trader is rich enough to do that.
I've played ttrpg in Rogue Trader. After one session, the captain was so orderly that Craftworld Eldar would get nausea, and the rest of the team went heretical in five seconds. It was awesome half a year of playing.
hell ya currently doing one whare we've become a roge trader our ship has become a mobile death world with a entire zoo escaped on borde
@@rickychapman3377 I'm running a TTRPG game of Rouge Trader right now where the Trader himself is an actual age of sail pirate from a feudal world (he turned out to be an illegitimate son and the other heirs died)
@@rickychapman3377fuckin same guys we use roll 20 but it's based
@@user-gp5iv9tk4k Okay, I love the idea of "But he's from a feudal world!" and then the reality is the piracy is the same anywhen, and sufficiently legal piracy is indistinguishable from business.
In regards to Owlcat's Rogue Trader RPG, I was very disappointed by the lack of xeno companions and how the only two xenos you can recruit are both fucking Elder. The only two aliens they added are the ones that look like weird humans with pointy ears. I wanted an Ork Bloodaxe mercenary, a Jokaero, a Sslyth, a Kroot and a Tau. That would have been awesome.
Winterscale has a Sslyth
Also how the Eldar companions straight up should be dead the second you see them in act 3 and onwards. Owl Cat really shit the bed with giving you reasons for keeping Xenos alive beyong maybe getting to fuck them.
All our companions need to have a character + background, multiple possible character arcs based on player choices, and an involvement with the main story in some way. Say what you want about our xenos companions, but they're not with us because they're simply paid as guns-for-hire. Having other xenos could be fun, but they wouldn't fit into the story or have much character at all and that's why owlcat didn't commit to them.
@@christopherxue6967 "wouldn't fit into the story"
Complete non-argument. They would fit into the story of Owlcat put in the effort to make them fit. The old Rogue Trader RPG had recruitable xenos it so I don't at all get what you mean. Any of the examples I mentioned would have fit better than having a Space Marine companion, yet they added the Space Wolf anyway.
@@sic6603Their reason for living is that you are a Rogue Trader and say they can.
8:00 Panc spreading the rat agenda I see.
Wow it’s actually you damn
Hi Gaijin
Holy Sigmar - it's the man himself! :)
I see no rats, merely a strange beastman
Grimdark Mass Effect my beloved
Incendia Chorda would be a good example of a "Pious Missionary" Rogue Trader, especially as she was more or less raised by the ecclesiarchy.
Context: Mindbroken and brainwashed while sealed in a sabotaged stasis cell.
I know that this is a war game setting and all, but I still wish rogue traders were the main focus. They have a lot more storytelling potential and can still be dystopian without constantly being depressingly grimdark or obsessed with events more than ten thousand years ago.
There's plenty of novels about them & the RPG is definitely the best one I played with only Black Crusade playing Chaos having the same sense of "Epicness"... Dark Heresy is far lower level (you've almost leveled out of the base campaign & gotten to Ascension [6th out of 8th iirc] to where Rogue Trader levels start) & Deathwatch was decent but kinda repetitive. Never played Only War so I can't speak for an Imperial Guard based campaign but I feel like it would be a mix of the issues that Dark Heresy has of feeling very "small" & the repetitiveness of Deathwatch.
Though I could just be biased since Rogue Trader has good Naval fights possible within it.
@@nationalsocialism3504 there aren't that many novels about them though, when they should have the focus of something like ciaphas cain. They are most of the time relegated to showing up as side characters.
@@Tall-Hobbit Blackstone Fortress is the omnibus that I'm currently reading... the main character is a Rogue Trader
@@nationalsocialism3504 yes i said not that many, if I remember it's the omnibus you are reading and the old rogue trader book, which is apparently quite meh, and that's it. When Rogue traders could be the Lotr of 40k.
40k 1e was literally called "Rogue Trader", and the first tabletop RPG was also Rogue Trader.
I absolutely love that the exemption that the Trade Warrant gives Rouge Traders suggests that the Emperor is completely fine with working with xenos for the benefit of the imperium. The fact it _specifically_ mentions it, however, implies that he also thought that it was better to only let _some_ people work with xenos, probably to prevent dumb***s dealing with Drukari, like that one story with the Tau.
Actually working with the DE isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Risky as hell, yes, but Incubi make for damn fine mercs & their weaponry is pretty much the best that's actually safely usable by humans, maybe barring some of the Dark Age stuff. Plus trading them stuff in exchange for the release of some high value prisoners would be appreciated by the IoM.
YOU HEAR ME! NAME THE TRADER THE GREAT NAME LUTHOR HARKON! DO IT!
The sugarless one fears the best pirate to unlive
19:32 using Jaune as a stand-in for a whiny wimp who is descended from heroes was not what I expected, but definitely appreciated. 🤣
poor sod, cant catch a break
19:32 I was really not expecting a RWBY reference of all things in a video about rogue traders
In a game of rogue trader our rogue trader house was specialized in cleaning up, repairing, and purifying lost and captured ships into usable ones to put them back in the hands off the navy.
So this means we're basically used car salesmen except we have go into those cars and remove the chaos/ork/genestealer/rak'gul infestations before we can sell them, also ripping stuff off of space hulks... now that i think about it we really were just playing space hulk but as super rich people
I kind of love that idea. I'm tempted to basically do that, but with ground vehicles so the entire party is stuck dealing with Crazy Hassan and figuring out how to steal/repair Knights and small Titans.
This is a spoiler for the Of Mars trilogy, but there is also some canon precedent for *counterfeit Rogue Traders*, with forged Warrants of Trade. They can go undetected for decades, even centuries, before a particularly insightful administrator takes notice.
17:45 Fun fact: The guy on the very bottom left of this Habsburg family tree who is the heir apparent to headship of the house is also a professional race car driver, and a very good one at that.
Rogue traders the freest people in the imperium.
Some might say the only free people in the Imperium.
I’ve been watching older videos, and I gotta say, the Pelinal Whitestrake video is by far my favorite.
I think that's the first I watched and I still find the descriptions of his utter all encompassing hatred of elves hilarious
One thing I love about Rogue Traders is how varied and diverse they are in terms of goals and attitudes. You have some who are conquisitidors,bringing the "light of The God-Emperor" to long forgotten human worlds,some who are merchant princes that esentially own entire star systems,some who are explorers that want to discover and settle new worlds for the Imperium and then some who are basically just government sanctioned pirates.
I just want to add to what the Imperium can create for habitation. If it's a lifeless rock, they can still drill underneath and create vast cities underground. Even something like a gas giant can and will be used for orbital stations, some the size of small moons with their own ecosystem in glass domes. Humans are very stubborn about making all their resources useful.
I think it’d be interesting if the imperium dissolved into this collection of thousands of Rogue Trader empires all with different interpretations of the imperial truth and imperial beliefs.
So the Warhammer Fantasy's Empire in space but even more so lol. Sadly with Robot Gorilla man back, along with Old man Lion, that scenario is probably gone.
god damn it, I really don't want things to appear in my feed two whole days before im able to watch it
And the Conquistador has found work again 40,000 years into the future.
the proper krumpin series of stories is a great rogue traders daily routine example
def worth checking out vox in the voids vids narrating them it’s absolute gold
Some of the most tolerant people in the Imperium.
another important note is since space is so fucking huge there could genuinely be millions of worlds already in imperial borders that are not yet discovered because of various reasons.
the realistic ones: could be that a dim star makes detection of planets nigh impossible so what looks like singular stars could be home to many planets. worlds without suns that could be habitable with imperium tech could be lurking out there. there's the good old imperial incompetence leaving discovered worlds before and after the great crusade to become lost completely. systems once considered no go zones due to natural phenomenon or filled with death worlds could naturally lose their dangerous flair over time and become explorable again.
the unrealistic but plausible in 40k ones: warp travel from what ive heard acts through transit ways that are lit up by the emperor like a galaxy wide spider's web so it could be that large chunks of the galaxy are simply disconnected from the warp. the cicatrix maledictum could be an in lore explanation for them opening up. warp storms that last many years could simply stop occuring.
worlds shrouded away by xenos could malfunction and unveil a system of paradise worlds that the eldar do not want touched. ork empires could cannibalise themselves into extinction leaving habitable but damaged worlds ready for exploration and colonisation.
in short even if the imperium's borders were never to expand again, rogue traders could spend thousands of years discovering new and incredible planets only a few hundred light years away.
feel free to add any other ideas in the comments, id love to hear it
Honestly the idea of rogue traders who used to be rival terran warlords gives me an idea for a traitor auxilia army led by a rogue trader who is salty about Big E getting rid of his fiefdom, so his plan is to invade terra to get it back.
“And then every planet in the Rouge Trader’s possession is glassed”
Not if you’ve got a C’than son they don’t!
Rogue Traders have, since I joined the 40k Fandom, represented to me an absolutely astounding storytelling tool which I have used in multiple RPGs in order to play around with the conventions of Warhammer and justify the absolute zaniness I know my players want to get up to.
Having Jaune be the representation of the 40x great-grandchild who sucks is so accurate.
Goddamn.
Yeah I laughed at that too
Love it that you use FTL music. Brings back good memories, sleepless nights and Giant Alien Spiders
Thank you, I could not place the music and it was driving me to Chaos.
From high school all through college I was playing that game and frequently listening to the OST on the bus ride home ahhhhh, I was pretty obsessed with it, might boot it up after work some day soon
Since you're talking about space pirates, Id really like if you covered eldar corsairs (ynnari too)... There's not that many good UA-cam videos about them...
Take responsability, you're the one who made me an eldar player and fan of their lore.
A rouge trader movie series would go hard
Absolutely love rogue traders, the tabletop was a big part of my early introduction to the setting.
We goon for Cassia in this household
Can't wait for Owlcat to make Rogue Trader 2: The Search For More Money
Ah! 19:31 Jaune jumpscare
There. That one. The space marine 30-something seconds in. He's the one why me and my sister like Space Wolves.
I hope he redeemed them(or will, if you haven't played the CRPG yet) for you too.
Hell yeah, I found you a year or so ago and I can't stop loving your content. Your humor is right up my alley, these things make me forgive you for liking the elder
You can Rogue my Trader… any day 👍
Easily my favorite quote
I hate these premiers. Now I am just going to have this video in my subscription feed for the next 2 days and not be able to watch it.
I'm sorry that happened 🤣 angry👺
Right? If it's not a live stream it massively diminishes my desire to watch it because of the premiere system.
@@TheLordofMetroids Huge if true get rid of all the dumbass bots keeping people on these apps that shouldn't. Now never ever touch the Russian Badger and we big chilling
Makes me want to go back and give the Rouge Trader game another go.
"What would you want to be in the 40k universe? Space Marine? What Chapter? Maybe a planetary governor? The mechanicus?"
Me: Rogue Trader sounds fun.
Was not expecting a Jeanne Cameo from RWBY but hey I'm all for it.
You timed this perfectly for the Steam sale lmao
Being a Rogue Trader would be sooo amazing
That end card sounded like what slaanesh whispered to the guy that became a harp
13:52 What’s even more fascinating is that the Tau have likely used turned Rogue Traders to spread the Greater Good across the Galaxy. There was a short story about a Tau aligned pirate fleet that operated on the Western half of the Imperium, far from Tau space and when the Tau were using warp skipping FTL. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were hundreds, if not thousands, more groups like that waiting for the Tau Empire to arrive.
That Sunless Sea music made me wish the Rogue Trader video game could have been a 40k version of Sunless Sea or Sunless Sky. That would have been so cool.
Rogue Traders are basically Starsector player characters
Every time you mentioned how much money they have I thought of drowning a planet in assault mechs
Mandatory comment to boost the algorithm, so Pancreas doesn't have to switch to an even cheaper brand of wine.
4:59 shut it, i like your funny writing
Ey, nice to see Jaune from RWBY in one of these. He's the best. Also, entertaining video as always
At some point I want to try and make some custom rogue trader models to ally into my space marine army for friendly games. My chapter is hyper-focused on resurrecting/restoring the wreckage of lost knights with totally not warp touched tech and I love the idea of a rogue trader dynasty recognizing a cash cow when they see it and glomming onto their fleet like a remora for easy profit.
I was having a rough day today, saw this came out last night but was too tired. Needed this humor to help the day.
Amazing video, can’t wait for the Cawl episode
Really love your videos. If there’s any chance you’re reading this, please make more. I will binge all of them like a man dying of thirst.
Oh, Colin. You really are the 5th choas god
Amazing video as always!!
Great video, very interesting and less-covered subject!
One of the other ways Rogue Traders get away with trading in Xeno stuff without getting blammed by the Inquisition is the fact that one of their best customers for that stuff IS the Inquisition.
I want the Marbo gun. Can you get me the Marbo gun, Lord of Trade?
@@tomarmadiyer2698 Would you like that gold plated?
Rogue traders are the best!
Came for my love of all things Rogue Trader. Subbded for the fun message at the very end of the video. :D
"... is an opposite in every way" *Shows Jaune*.
Dude chill, cut my man some slack, he is trying.
Which, incidentally, is what would make him a great model for a GM run Rogue Trader in a TTRPG campaign. The party would essentially be giving the best training arc they could to him and anyone even slightly familiar with Jaune would immediately understand the situation.
Abelard, introduce me to this video
At 12:40 mark you could have spoken about the Severan Dominate, who are essentially smaller Ultramar in the most basic form.
That joke at the end has to be one of the worst attempts at humor I have ever heard and I like it
I am once again asking for the flesh eater courts
Keep up the good work Pancreas!
Reading that aloud made me think youve never said that yourself.
19:34
Did you just put an image of Jaune Arc from RWBY in your video? Great, now I'm imagining him as a rogue trader in the 40k universe trying to live up to his legendary ancestor's example. His friends from Team JNPR and Team RWBY are now part of his retinue.
Jaune is not beating those self insert allegations 😂
@@adalsal816 No. No he is not 😂
That being said I still like the guy. He's like one of the few characters that actually gets good development anymore while most of the cast is just blah at this point. Rogue trader Jaune honestly sounds kind of hilarious to me. Poor guy bumbling his way troughs 40k getting by on sheer dumb luck and having Bad ass friends to back him up.
If I've learned anything about 40k it is that come hell high water or xenos you WILL be paying your taxes. Rowboat Girlieman will have his beans
Rogue Traders are the East India Company of 40K.
A fun video to see would be the direct comparison of the Imperium’s agents like the Rogue Traders, Inquisitors and similar in what each’s tug and pull are with their typically Emperor-granted authority.
Abelard like this video, I found it educational
woe to the chaos attackers when the starship they board is crewed by 90% orks
Every time I watch I can't help but think about the game FTL
Truthfully, Rogue Traders seem to have the coolest job. I would easily take that if it was offered just so I can build my own vassal empire.
Day 41 of asking for a video on Vlad Von Carstein.
In case you want a priest picture: look up Hieronymus Doloroso from the CRPG, not going to get much more "40K priest" than that guy.
"because, mon ami: _foie gras."_
I wonder if there were any perpetuals that were given warrants of trade?
"Why did you become a rogue trader?"
For the reputation
For the money
and for the fun but mostly for the money.
Hands down best possible WH40k live action option for series
I guess I'll satisfy my need to hear your voice by playing RogueTech again.
LOL the Habsburg lineage!!
7:58 Recette my beloved!
My favorite thing above all else is they can sanction xenos. Date an eldar? Ork bodygaurd? Whats the inquisitor gunna do tell the emperor hes wrong?
I'm downloading the game right now, couldn't have come at a better time!
A quick commentary on trading Xeno Artifacts, aka the Cold Trade:
First, there's Xeno Artifacts and Xeno Artifacts. Trading in a few minor Eldar/Tau trinkets, it's not *legal*, but it's well within what's tacitly accepted within the (very) rich and powerful of the Imperium. A Planetary Governor having a private collection of Eldar Jewelry is entirely likely to just get tacitly ignored most of the time for example (at least until the few people that actually know about Eldar shit realize that he's actually deliberately collecting Soul Stones for the purposes of sacrificing to Chaos for purposes of summoning a Slaneshi Demon). But some Chaos tainted Saruthi artifact is going to get a much harsher treatment, even among the richest and most powerful of the Imperium (if they are caught, of course).
Second, while it's definitely frowned upon by a good part of the Inquisition, a good part of the inquisition also find it far too useful to actually eliminate. Sometimes even the same inquisitor will have both views. But really, if an Ordos Malleus inquisitor is in want of some Necron bullshit Xenotech for some anti-warp experiment, and doesn't want to go through the trouble of looting/trading for it himself (or sending his pawns to do it for him), where else to get it but the Cold Trade? When some Radical Inquisitor of any Ordos is working with some borderline heretek trying to integrate some Xenotech in some arcane device to pull something completely absurd but absolutely vital, the Cold Trade is often more discreet than Explorator Fleets. And that means you can't just squash all of it, else you'd lose (relatively) easy access to such things.
There is a running pair of jokes about the Inquisition and Rogue Traders.
Every 'Rogue Trader' you meet is actually an Inquisitor in disguise.
Every 'Inquisitor' you meet is actually a Rogue Trader in disguise.
For those who question how both can be true I introduce you to the most fun conspiracy theory in 40k
There are no Rogue Traders or Inquisitors, they've always been the same thing.
Yippee more 40K content. (I won’t go to the Old World you can’t make me YOU CANT MAKE ME USE THE SQUARE BASES)
You vill use ze square bases!
Speaking of rogue trader. Have you tried the new rpg about it?