In the Lustria expansion of The Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Luthor enslaved a Banshee in order to lure in even more desperate sailors to drown. The man weaponized simping!!!
I’m not sure Harkon could even be brought back. Seemed like she used her new daemon powers to unbind him from undeath that made him melt into goop. At least AoS has a spiritual successor in Captain Varkos Varactyr who commands a flying ghost fleet that plunders the skies(Kharadron airships & cities) and seas in the Realm of Fire.
It's fitting. Let's be honest, Nagash did it mostly to ensure Mannfred continued to suffer. What is crazier, is that he didn't bring back Harkon and just let him loose in the Sea of Souls to be a pain in Chaos's butt. Imagine that, being a Greater Demon raising an army for your god. Just to hear a shanty being sung mear moments before a fleet of flying/walking pirate ships juat gun you down from a fathom away, only to then steal your weapons and armor from your disapating corpses
@goldenhorde6944 Not for the Looney Toon known as Luthor Harkon. This guy is the definition of a cartoon pirate. Specifically, I believe it is the version of you are a pirate from the show Lazy Town. He is crazy enough to know that one. 🤣🤣🤣
@@joshuasepeda3289 Well anything in Warhammer would have some amount of goofiness injected into it, I'd argue Harkon falls into the same category as the Skaven where he can be played for laughs for the audience's sake but from the perspective of anyone in-universe he's still an unstoppable vampire lord, capable of drowning entire nations in both the figurative zombie horde sense and the literal ocean-magic sense.
@goldenhorde6944 I get that. However, the explanation of Luthor Harkon that we get seems to heavily imply that Luthor just achieves objectives through sheer luck. This vampire somehow survives battles and ambushes like he's protected by plot armor and it's only because the end times had to happen that he finally gets axed. Remember, this guy survived a magical encounter while attempting to loot a tomb protected by Lizard man magic. This shouldn't have happened. Also, he actually becomes very resistant to magic, to the point that even the rulers of the Lizard men can't just vaporize him. Even with his mind shattered, Luthor is still able to pull off feats that put him in the top tier of Warhammer fantasy characters. It's almost like Luthor has the toon force on his side. That's why I stand by my statement that "You are a pirate" from the Lazytown show just plays in his mind while he's waiting for one of his shattered personalities to take over.
Luthor’s enemies: Hear him blasting Davy Jones’ organ theme as he smashes their fleets to splinters. Luthor’s mind: Playing You Are A Pirate on repeat.
It will always be funny to me that Luthor and the entire vampire coast got only so fleshed out bc of Ca, it's pretty impressive how they made this dlc out of just one white dwarf article
@@TwojaStaraIFrytkiSo Saratosa’s character was a thing (forgetting her name right now) but she was more of a anti norscan character but the siren is 99.9% fanmade because apparently she was name dropped and nothing else about her was said
I dont remember where, but it was stated that Luthor was the only one of Nagash's top guys who didn't ask for a boon. He did in fact just join because he was bored and it seemed fun.
"Fortune favours the infamous." - Captain Luthor Harkon. "You ignored the rules of engagment, in a fair fight I'd kill you." - Will Turner. "Then that's not much incentive for me to fight fair, is it?" - Captain Jack Sparrow proving how Harkon is right.
Mannfred Von Carstein: “You are without a doubt the worst vampire I've ever heard of.” Luthor Harkon: “But you *have* heard of us.” When Morathi captured him and locked him in a treasure vault, I imagine that they found out he escaped because when they went to the vault, he and *Everything* were gone. Luthor is the type of person that would empty out an entire treasure vault and/or steal things like crowns of Malekith, Morathi, and Thorgrim, Ghal Maraz, the Armor and stone of Aenarion, the Von Carstein ring, the Great Book, etc. just because he wanted to. After all, he did steal a *literal* Lizardmen city to the point that, and I quote, “not one stone was left stacked upon another” that one time. P.S. Yes, I am imaging it as the Jack running form cannibals from POTC2 but with every named character from the setting chasing him.
I mean we are talking about a vampire who stole an entire Lizardman settlement including the bricks. Breaking out of a vault was probably childs play after everything his done.
I like the idea of Luthor just changing his back story constantly like the Joker from the The Dark Knight. " Did I ever tell you how I got these fangs?"
Van Euwe's destiny is to get rawdogged by harkon, lizardmen, and eventually MONEYBAGS McMARIENBURG (I forget the name of the lord that just vibes in Mariënberg and does nothing) Embrace your destiny as a Dutch twink being Sandwiched by great powers
@@marcusaustralius2416 local Dutch man turns entirety of the Pearl River Delta and Shanghai region into ash on his quest for +5% spice production and a suspicious book
a shame you didnt go into depth into his different personalities, which seem to include a little girl and a fucking Slann priest. We need this guy in some books, he would be a riot. Like, imagine this dude is a Gotrek and Felix book, trying to kill them for 90% of the book, until when they get corned by thousands of demons and then this madlad appears, his mind hijacked by the Slann Priest and starts slaughtering the demons with an army mix of zombies and lizardmen that he somehow managed to convince to fight with him while he has control of Luthor.
@@doragonzx Just put out shenanigans on the guy, like go all out, put a magical girl in there, one of the lost primarchs, a fucking isekai MC, go wild and add your flair of Warhammer in there and I can see it working
They keep him around as a special guest so when one Gotrek and Felix adventures ends that requires them going to Lustrai, Harkon shows up and goes, "So tell us, what's become of my ship?" then bites into a heart and laughs into the camera as it cuts to black.
I’m convinced that the orks and vampire coast are the only ones having any fun in Warhammer Fantasy. I mean Luther taught his zombies to shoot guns and sing. Which do you think he’s more proud of. Vampire necromancer pirate vs Ninja rat men. *Why* did this never happen? It would be absolutely hilarious to me if they brought him and the other vampires pirates back as the followers of the Ocean god from Fantasy reborn in exchange for soul protection from Nagash. The Deepkin hate them because they tried to bring back their god, and never did yet the vampire coast get near unconditional protection and rewards and all they have to do not screw the ocean god over.
it is hinted heavily that Stromfels (evil mannan basically) really likes the vampire coast as he also revived cylostra into what she is. So he def has some necromantic stuff about him and given the lore of the deeps is necromancy and ocean type magic together in some weird way the vamp coast has a patreon god of sorts lol
Ogres have fun as well: eating fighting, chilling with their buddies. They don't really know shit about demons and chaos but they are smart enough to have a civilisation.
If Luthor and his lot ever come back in AOS, I assure you he'd have a hell of a time with the shit the Kharadon overlords have and being a general menace to the Deepkin, Seraphon, Sigmarite cities, Mannfred, Nurgle and just about everyone really.
In 2018 I knew nothing about Warhammer, then I saw the announcement trailer for Curse of the Vampire Coast and was like Vampirates? I guess I'll try this game out....6 years later and I'm battling plastic crack addiction while trying to find a house large enough to fit all my models.
Similar story for me. All I knew about warhammer 40k in 2016 is the Trump memes which made me look up who the god emperor of mankind was. I had some interest at the time but didn’t really get into it. Then one day in early 2020 I stumbled across a leutin lore video and the rest is history. Now I have 2 entire rooms of plastic crack and an entire large table in my hobby room waiting for their turn to be on the painting desk. Unfortunately I don’t just build and paint a 1-3k point army and move on to another one. I did that for sororitas and my AOS army but my world eaters are 15k points, daemons are 11k, and chaos knights are 7k…. For some reason I just really like those 3 and keep adding to them for no real reason. I guess subconsciously i’m hoping I’ll find someone that can match a 30k+ point army for a bit of apocalypse but in Texas that is pretty unlikely. What’s ironic is I’m an imperium fanboy when it comes to the lore but sororitas are my only “loyalist” forces…
"I've seen an entire army of undead pick up a gold hoard before, like not a big hoard but it was still a decently sized hoard for an umgi" "I saw them pick up Axlotl"
One other thing about Harkon in Total War, he can shoot his explosive pistol from the back of his mount even when in melee which makes him one of the best lord killers in the game as long as he has ammo.
Warhammer takes the typical rock paper scissors argument into 4 dimensions. It's not pirates vs vikings vs ninjas, it's vampire pirates vs demon vikings vs ratman ninjas, and I am HERE FOR IT.
There's also the fact that the zombies under his command aren't entirely mindless; they're stupid, but somewhat self aware. And incredibly happy because they're not dead. Which scares the fuck out of anyone he invades because it also means they're smart enough to operate firearms.
I really thought Mr.nonfunctional pancreas would make a do or don’t on Elspeth Von Draken so he could talk about playing the empire more. Good job on being original 👍
I just played Total War Warhammer 1 for the first time, as Grimgor Ironhide of course, I am an Ork Enjoyer after all, and goof grief does this video retroactively make it more satisfying to crush manfred. Namely by repeatedly having him repeatedly assassinated by my best goblin big boss and taking his settlements one by one without him ever even getting to raise an army.
Ah yea, I remember when you could assassinate/wound lords with agents in WH1, but so could the AI do that to yours. CA ultimately removed the ability of agents to assassinate a Lord in WH2 and WH3 (Hand of the Shadow Crown agent is the exception, and clan Eshin).
That’s got to be the best Pirate I’ve ever seen. Seriously, I suck at the battles and the final battle for his mission had me lose my entire army. But with mad lad Luther and his terrorgheist I was able to keep dive bombing the final army till it broke. GW should definitely bring him back as an undead faction in Age of Sigmar.
Some random sigmarine or even Nahash finds a corked bottle and then out of curiosity or they can sense the souls inside they pop it open then suddenly an entire ocean filled with boats, undead pirates, and sea monsters rapidly flood out of the bottle.
Warhammer Fantasy may have the HRE with tanks, may have undead egyptians with huge golems, may have fantasy china with dragon emperors and primitive zeppelins, may have turbo industrialized persian-like dwarves or mayincatek reptiles with dinosaurs but none of that will ever beat the absolute peak of a combination that is VAMPIRE PIRATES. Luthor Harkon and Lord Noctilus are probaly the characters that the phrase "goes hard" talks about. mfkers dont care about order or chaos, they are here for blood and plunder and boy do they get it till the heroes of the story show up. The concept is so stupidly cool i even tried to make something similar in Stellaris but the lack of space monsters to zombify and the empire placements makes it hard to raid anything as a space undead fleet.
This video has single handedly re-piratepilled my brain, but I’m afraid that since this is a UA-cam comment I must instead say “now do gloomspite gitz” In all seriousness, this channel got me into the fantasy settings and these character focused episodes are some of the best content the setting has going for it. Thank you once more mr. Nowork, Boingob’s blessing upon ye
After the Vampire coast trailer came out, I couldn't help but make my own Vampirate. Sorry for the cringe but I love writing OC's. Enter Kalys Seaspite, a Lyonnesse maiden who spat in the face of Lyonnesse family plots and arranged marriages by leaping from the cliffs to the Sea. Moved by this motion and a prayer given for a sure death, Manaan blessed her with an almost eternal beauty as she would move along his realm on the currents of the sea... I say almost because as pointed out in this video, those currents eventually lead to the Vampire Coast. In a midst of a gleeful madness, and seeing a PERFECTLY preserved body for the taking, Luthor was all too happy to try and feed on the young Princess. As his fangs sunk into her flesh, the ravages of time started to affect her as the rot and bloat from who knows how long at sea started to affect her. Being not met with fresh blood but instead sea water, Harkon was disgusted and wounded in both parts as Manaan tore what little vengeance he could against the vampire as the water opened wounds in his mouth... Allowing blood to flow into the slowly rotting corpse below him. Unwillingly giving her the blood kiss, Luthor at first played with the idea of tossing her to the sea again and letting the inhabitants therein deal with the fledgling, but already at sea for an important reason, he decided to ignore the problem and continue towards Sartosa. Having her first feeding and finding her first crew there, Kalys would soon become a menace across the Bretonnian coast. Enough eventually that a dwarvish Ironclad would be sent to settle a grudge. There she learned that Vampires fucking HATE inhuman blood and needed something to sate herself after finding she had basically risen her entire crew into undeath during the battle, cause dwarfs are WAY better than peasants at killing pirates it turns out. The crew happily turned her towards the undefended towns, and only after they started coming back with a... SPECIFIC kind of loot did she figure out why. Raising three bretonnian girls as spirits and others as zombies, she'd go on to challenge Harkon... and fail. Becoming just another captain in his fleet, she sailed in a Bretonnian Corsair named "Her Maiden's Virtue" and even picked up a few remnants from the dissolution of the Dreadfleet with some Skaven PiRATS.
Thank you PancreasNoWork, you have proven to me that I don't need therapy. Pirate Vampire Emperor is the most badass character concept I have ever heard in my life and I will forever attempt to bring him to a DnD table.
Pirates of the Caribbean Online actually has a free, fan-maintained successor called The Legend of Pirates Online (TLOPO). Disney, in a moment of unnatural and uncharacteristic generosity, gave them permission to run it as long as they didn't charge money and called it something else.
Normal Vampires "moving water can harm me and I cannot pass them." Wh vampires: "arrrr! And a bottle of rum laced with BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" or something like this... 😅
Funny thing is though, Chaos *loathe* vampires to the point one of the champions of khorne has the ability of curing undead so he could inflict fear on his enemies before killing them.
I genuinely love Luther and it’s just bc if the way the VA says the lines. So when I got the coast dlc and tomb kings I was actually more into the tomb kings bc I love history but like I played Luther harkon and completely forgotnahout the tomb kings just bc of how awesome he is. I love his campaign and honestly the VA lines make it all for me. Just the way he uses the inflection and tone makes you genuinely believe it’s a raving madman. The other VAs in total war are great but for some reason luthors is just a cut above in my mind. Idk he’s one of my favorite legendary lords just bc of the VA. I love watching his lore video by the book of choyer. I love listening to the curse of the vampire coast sea shanty. He’s just so much fun to play honestly. I’m so happy pancreas covered him. I was gonna try and get him to cover it in lore crines podcast but I’m happy with this tho inwould love to hear and learn more about the other vampire coast lords.
For a long while in Fantasy, I had a small army/detachment of Vampire Coast Pirates using the White Dwarf list for my general Vampire Counts list. It was awesome to see most people expecting standard Vampire shenanigans only to get blindsided by functional artillery and ranged combat to lead the mayhem.
His lore downsides of being a victim of Mannfred doesn’t apply to me because the End Times is dumb and the Age of Sigmar is stupid, so I completely disregard everything and as far as I’m concerned the story end when Archaon shows up one last time, cliffhanger ending style.
he should show up in age of sigmar as a ghost pirate, with the explanation the loot crazy bastard managed to somehow steal powerfrom the now divine nagash
to be fair, during the commonly played times of the old world Luthor was less of a faction with goals and more a natural disaster with cannons and a love of anything expensive
In response to the first question, i would be a pirate with an axe instead of a scimitar. I would use flintlock pistols as clubs. And I would sail around Hong Kong as part of Admiral Cheng's fleet
the vampire coast undead are quite different from vampire counts too which is cool. They are all kinda self sufficient and more independent so they can do complex tasks that is needed to sail the ships and use guns and cannons and what not, granted its probs like a 30 iq person trying to do it all but their undead arent like perfectly managed movement by movement like other vampires. Also they kinda have a patreon god of sorts? In cylostras lore she is revived by stromfels (a ocean god) and presumably teaches her the lore of the deeps meaning maybe he might help them out and teach them stuff indirectly since he probably likes what the vamp coast is doing. Also their units are probably the coolest in warhammer imo the necofex colosus is the whole reason i got into total war and warhammer in general
to be fair, it makes sense if his mind was put back together he no longer would be immune to magic, since from the sounds of it, it was having his mind fractured like it was that made him immune to magic
watching your videos gives me enough enjoyment to listen to all the silly lore that happen in this awesome cool game. Total War Warhammer is such a great game!
Yeargh me harties! Where's are the bloody rum gone? So as an old skool dwarves player I stopped playing fantasy when all my friends started playing 40k and having never heard about this character before this has been a very enjoyable video. I do love vampires and pirates so getting to learn about a badass vampire pirate has made my morning a very enjoyable one so far. Love your channel!
4:55 in all fairness he literally is a corpse that washed up there, it's less him being lucky and more him being uniquely suited to the situation - sounds like 6 or two threes but I wouldn't call it luck if so many bodies wash up in that spot. Like everyone else would just drown, vampires don't need to breathe so any other vampire getting shipwrecked in the area would produce similar results
If you like vampire pirates i highly recommend "Journery of black and red". Arienne of the Nirari is a not insane Luthor, and i a world of vampires that study the blade for thousands of years she instead decided to use artillery barrages.
I never really like the vampire coast, but i recently played a luthor harkon campaign in warhammer 3 and i fell in love with him and the aesthetic 11/10
Can I just say I love you did your research on the fact he was on the Tabletop? The entire Vampire Coasts army was a White Dwarf Armylist which, given the pre-Chapterhouse State of GW, was based entirely around conversions - Queen Bess was to be a converted Hellcannon, Luthor based on a Von Carstein Vampire, adding Imperial Millitia bits to Zombies to make them seem piratey, etc etc. They made it for the Lustria Worldwide campaign - Ebony Skulls included, and never supported it afterwards, and Harkon even appearing in the End Times was a bit of a shock to people - Other similar White Dwarf Lists never got any referrence again like the Rhinox Rider Ogres. And then some mad man at Creative Assembly either knew of him, or found out, and decided "We've run dry of armies who could be here, let's bring in the undead pirates!" And thus established the CA brand of being able to upgrade GW stuff that hadn't been done much with. Other examples include Kislev (A more formal armybook that was expanding on a WD list), Cathay (Not even a WD list) and several different characters (The Moulder Rat Ogre with a Chaos Warrior brain and Harald Hammerstorm are WD entries, Grom and Repanse were OOP for multiple editions by the end of Fantasy...)
One of your best videos yet I have to say. But then.. I just love Harkon. If you're going to keep giving me what I like after Rogue Traders and Harkon, can we have Skarsnik next?
I actually have my own pirate vampire character. He’s known as Aaron the bloodwake. As a man he was solely dedicated to whatever he thought was fun at the time being a pirate privateering for a merchant lord of the empire stealing from the empire eventually getting caught where he decided serving a mad man would be fun smashing an ebony skull becoming a vampire and proceeding to butcher his opposition. His name comes from the fact that sword fighting is fun. He is blinding fast and stupidly strong on top of his necromantic abilities so much so that Gotric had issues fighting him till Aaron got bored and bounced.
The rule about multiple personalities also said that you would roll a dice if Luthor lost his last wound: on a 6, a stronger personality will take control and allow him to carrie on, with 1 wound left.
The battle of the dead and buried is legit one of my favorite and least favorite parts of the end times because the vampires were my favorite faction and it feels like this was their last stand before Nagash took over. It felt like a zombie movie, the last of the noble vampires, (and also Manfred) soloing an entire army before each having a heroic last stand (except Manfred) Even Vlad had a noble death because he didn’t have it in him to kill potentially the only person he ever truly loved in Isabella
He could be like Vlad where when the vampires were run out of Nehekhara he went to the north and integrated into Empire/Kislev/etc culture, then after a time he began his pirate shenanigans. The nehekharan origin story is still very possible even given his accent and the titles he likes.
For awesome game pirates, I would counter with La Capitan, from Sentinels of the Multiverse, AKA Maria Helena Teresa Fafila Servanda Jimena Mansuara Paterna Domenga Gelvira Placia Sendina Belita Eufemia Columba Gontina Aldonza Mafalda Cristina Tegrida de Falcon (she adds names as she travels). Captain of the time traveling galleon La Paradoja Magnifica.
She later turns Hero for the apocalyptic fight. Now hundreds of years old, gray-haired La Commodora has divested herself of her time-displaced crew, but has augmented her ship with magic, technology, and even more temporal shenanigans. When she fires a broadside, she opens multiple time portals beside her, firing her ship's guns from different time periods to hit you with ten times the cannonballs that should have been possible. Magnificent paradox, indeed.
I think I've come to hate Mannfred more for killing Harkon than Gelt while making this video.
See you understand my hatred of MANNFRED more!
Any plans for Lileath or Genevieve Dieudonne?
Or general ramblings about Tilea, Estalia and the Border Princes?
out of curiosity, are you planning to do magnus and the thousand suns any time soon?
Mannfred has become the punching bag of the fandom FOR GOOD REASON
Next you have to do a video on Vlad Von Carstein.
I’ve been asking for 46 days now.
In the Lustria expansion of The Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Luthor enslaved a Banshee in order to lure in even more desperate sailors to drown. The man weaponized simping!!!
Luthor Harkon really be enslaving ghost women and when he gets called out on it he asks you which color is your flagship.
@@nathanielclaw2841I don’t get the reference…
@@the_king_of_kings_3413 he’s trying to make an Andrew Tate reference.
@@faroukshaaban1140 Eww misogynistic human trafficker Andrew Tate?
"work smarter not harder!"
I like how the “Lore Positives” for this one was just “He is _Luthor fucking Harkon.”_
“He’s a Vampirate Commodorperor, what more do I need to say?”
LUTHOR HARKON
Just to reiterate, out of **all** the possible people Nagash could have brought back in Age of Sigmar, GW decided Nagash brings back Mannfred.
GW, not CA
I’m not sure Harkon could even be brought back. Seemed like she used her new daemon powers to unbind him from undeath that made him melt into goop.
At least AoS has a spiritual successor in Captain Varkos Varactyr who commands a flying ghost fleet that plunders the skies(Kharadron airships & cities) and seas in the Realm of Fire.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 ah bugger, I know it was too late to write a coherent sentence. I even reminded myself to say GW while I was writing lol.
It's fitting. Let's be honest, Nagash did it mostly to ensure Mannfred continued to suffer. What is crazier, is that he didn't bring back Harkon and just let him loose in the Sea of Souls to be a pain in Chaos's butt. Imagine that, being a Greater Demon raising an army for your god. Just to hear a shanty being sung mear moments before a fleet of flying/walking pirate ships juat gun you down from a fathom away, only to then steal your weapons and armor from your disapating corpses
@Never_heart… This is officially canon to me, I do not care what GW says or does. I will simply ignore it.
I'm convinced that when Luthor is in one of his stupors, the song "You are a pirate" just starts blasting away in his mind.
@goldenhorde6944 Not for the Looney Toon known as Luthor Harkon. This guy is the definition of a cartoon pirate. Specifically, I believe it is the version of you are a pirate from the show Lazy Town. He is crazy enough to know that one. 🤣🤣🤣
@@joshuasepeda3289 Well anything in Warhammer would have some amount of goofiness injected into it, I'd argue Harkon falls into the same category as the Skaven where he can be played for laughs for the audience's sake but from the perspective of anyone in-universe he's still an unstoppable vampire lord, capable of drowning entire nations in both the figurative zombie horde sense and the literal ocean-magic sense.
@goldenhorde6944 I get that. However, the explanation of Luthor Harkon that we get seems to heavily imply that Luthor just achieves objectives through sheer luck. This vampire somehow survives battles and ambushes like he's protected by plot armor and it's only because the end times had to happen that he finally gets axed. Remember, this guy survived a magical encounter while attempting to loot a tomb protected by Lizard man magic. This shouldn't have happened. Also, he actually becomes very resistant to magic, to the point that even the rulers of the Lizard men can't just vaporize him. Even with his mind shattered, Luthor is still able to pull off feats that put him in the top tier of Warhammer fantasy characters. It's almost like Luthor has the toon force on his side. That's why I stand by my statement that "You are a pirate" from the Lazytown show just plays in his mind while he's waiting for one of his shattered personalities to take over.
Luthor’s enemies: Hear him blasting Davy Jones’ organ theme as he smashes their fleets to splinters.
Luthor’s mind: Playing You Are A Pirate on repeat.
Lazy town or Alstorm version?
It will always be funny to me that Luthor and the entire vampire coast got only so fleshed out bc of Ca, it's pretty impressive how they made this dlc out of just one white dwarf article
also I think CA created all of the character from nothing or almost nothing
I didn't even know any of them were even fleshed out enough to feature in the end times, and they even invented one of their leaders wholesale.
@@Nirual86which one
@@al3xand993Cylostra. She's entirely a CA creation
@@TwojaStaraIFrytkiSo Saratosa’s character was a thing (forgetting her name right now) but she was more of a anti norscan character but the siren is 99.9% fanmade because apparently she was name dropped and nothing else about her was said
I dont remember where, but it was stated that Luthor was the only one of Nagash's top guys who didn't ask for a boon. He did in fact just join because he was bored and it seemed fun.
A true supporter of Namath should join his cause without asking for anything in return!
@@AAZ-yu5ss
Such is the power of Nagash
The Vampire Coast raiding the Tomb Kings is the greatest example of "Grave robbing" in written media.
England: am i a joke to you?
In Soviet Vampire Coast, grave robs you!
"Fortune favours the infamous." - Captain Luthor Harkon.
"You ignored the rules of engagment, in a fair fight I'd kill you." - Will Turner.
"Then that's not much incentive for me to fight fair, is it?" - Captain Jack Sparrow proving how Harkon is right.
THE BLOOD RUNS COLD
WE TAKE THEIR LOOT AND DONT GET OLD!
OH HAIL THE MIGHTY! HES ARISING FROM THE DEEP!
WITH TATTERED SAILS AND INCREDIBLE TALES WE’RE CAUGHT IN ENDLESS SEAS!
"Take *_our_ loot and don't get old"
Mannfred Von Carstein: “You are without a doubt the worst vampire I've ever heard of.”
Luthor Harkon: “But you *have* heard of us.”
When Morathi captured him and locked him in a treasure vault, I imagine that they found out he escaped because when they went to the vault, he and *Everything* were gone. Luthor is the type of person that would empty out an entire treasure vault and/or steal things like crowns of Malekith, Morathi, and Thorgrim, Ghal Maraz, the Armor and stone of Aenarion, the Von Carstein ring, the Great Book, etc. just because he wanted to. After all, he did steal a *literal* Lizardmen city to the point that, and I quote, “not one stone was left stacked upon another” that one time.
P.S. Yes, I am imaging it as the Jack running form cannibals from POTC2 but with every named character from the setting chasing him.
I believe Mannfred calling anyone else but himself to be the worst vampire, would cause the universe itself to slap Mannfred while shouting "Wrong!"
@@kevinoriordan3323If he wasn't so full of himself he would just be the most backstabbing spiteful vampire.
The "us" is a very nice touch.
I mean we are talking about a vampire who stole an entire Lizardman settlement including the bricks. Breaking out of a vault was probably childs play after everything his done.
I like the idea of Luthor just changing his back story constantly like the Joker from the The Dark Knight. " Did I ever tell you how I got these fangs?"
“I’m da Arch-Commodore of da Dreadfleet, baby!”
This mf single handedly turning my House Van Euwe playthrough into a fucking nightmare
Van Euwe's destiny is to get rawdogged by harkon, lizardmen, and eventually MONEYBAGS McMARIENBURG (I forget the name of the lord that just vibes in Mariënberg and does nothing)
Embrace your destiny as a Dutch twink being Sandwiched by great powers
I just remembered that the old man bankrolling your enemies is Jaan Van de Kuypers, apologies.
Gekoloniseerd
@@Nomadithlet me corrupt Cathay for Tzeentch goddammit
@Nomadith that being said, once I have enough cannons and kloveniers it becomes much easier
@@marcusaustralius2416 local Dutch man turns entirety of the Pearl River Delta and Shanghai region into ash on his quest for +5% spice production and a suspicious book
a shame you didnt go into depth into his different personalities, which seem to include a little girl and a fucking Slann priest. We need this guy in some books, he would be a riot. Like, imagine this dude is a Gotrek and Felix book, trying to kill them for 90% of the book, until when they get corned by thousands of demons and then this madlad appears, his mind hijacked by the Slann Priest and starts slaughtering the demons with an army mix of zombies and lizardmen that he somehow managed to convince to fight with him while he has control of Luthor.
You could legitimately weave an entire Rashoman-style narrative about each personality’s interpretation of individual events.
...I would kill for this. SO FUCKING HARD.
Maybe the split personnality thing is like his soul remembering ALL of his past lives. Something that is being seen in AOS
@@doragonzx Just put out shenanigans on the guy, like go all out, put a magical girl in there, one of the lost primarchs, a fucking isekai MC, go wild and add your flair of Warhammer in there and I can see it working
They keep him around as a special guest so when one Gotrek and Felix adventures ends that requires them going to Lustrai, Harkon shows up and goes, "So tell us, what's become of my ship?" then bites into a heart and laughs into the camera as it cuts to black.
Crazy, undead vampire lord, pirate. Luthor Harkon is both a meme and an amazingly well written character. The best of both worlds.
Luthor Harkon and the vampire pirates SINGLE HANDEDLY have gotten me into fantasy
Eat your heart out Gecko Moria, this is how you become a pirate emperor using zombies.
I'm disappointed it took this long to find a OP reference.
Yeah but I bet Luthor’s army can’t do a sick thriller dance routine.
Do you think dousing your cannonballs in rum will make them do extra damage to Nurgle units? You know, because of the alcohol....
Maybe if you believed they would...
I’m convinced that the orks and vampire coast are the only ones having any fun in Warhammer Fantasy. I mean Luther taught his zombies to shoot guns and sing. Which do you think he’s more proud of.
Vampire necromancer pirate vs Ninja rat men. *Why* did this never happen?
It would be absolutely hilarious to me if they brought him and the other vampires pirates back as the followers of the Ocean god from Fantasy reborn in exchange for soul protection from Nagash. The Deepkin hate them because they tried to bring back their god, and never did yet the vampire coast get near unconditional protection and rewards and all they have to do not screw the ocean god over.
it is hinted heavily that Stromfels (evil mannan basically) really likes the vampire coast as he also revived cylostra into what she is. So he def has some necromantic stuff about him and given the lore of the deeps is necromancy and ocean type magic together in some weird way the vamp coast has a patreon god of sorts lol
Ogres have fun as well: eating fighting, chilling with their buddies. They don't really know shit about demons and chaos but they are smart enough to have a civilisation.
In an insane world, only the insane can thrive.
If Luthor and his lot ever come back in AOS, I assure you he'd have a hell of a time with the shit the Kharadon overlords have and being a general menace to the Deepkin, Seraphon, Sigmarite cities, Mannfred, Nurgle and just about everyone really.
I love how you singled out Mannfred.
In 2018 I knew nothing about Warhammer, then I saw the announcement trailer for Curse of the Vampire Coast and was like Vampirates? I guess I'll try this game out....6 years later and I'm battling plastic crack addiction while trying to find a house large enough to fit all my models.
Dont bother. You'll just end up selling the house to pay for more plastic crack.
Similar story for me. All I knew about warhammer 40k in 2016 is the Trump memes which made me look up who the god emperor of mankind was.
I had some interest at the time but didn’t really get into it. Then one day in early 2020 I stumbled across a leutin lore video and the rest is history.
Now I have 2 entire rooms of plastic crack and an entire large table in my hobby room waiting for their turn to be on the painting desk.
Unfortunately I don’t just build and paint a 1-3k point army and move on to another one. I did that for sororitas and my AOS army but my world eaters are 15k points, daemons are 11k, and chaos knights are 7k…. For some reason I just really like those 3 and keep adding to them for no real reason. I guess subconsciously i’m hoping I’ll find someone that can match a 30k+ point army for a bit of apocalypse but in Texas that is pretty unlikely.
What’s ironic is I’m an imperium fanboy when it comes to the lore but sororitas are my only “loyalist” forces…
It was Dark Crusade for me.
“insane vampire pirate emperor”
This is how hilarious DnD characters begin
"I've seen an entire army of undead pick up a gold hoard before, like not a big hoard but it was still a decently sized hoard for an umgi"
"I saw them pick up Axlotl"
We need more Badger WH content
"Looks like Axlotl's going for a ride" -- Iron Man's suit
WE SHOULD TAKE AXLOTL, AND **PUSH** IT SOMEWHERE ELSE! -Luthor Harkon, maybe.
One other thing about Harkon in Total War, he can shoot his explosive pistol from the back of his mount even when in melee which makes him one of the best lord killers in the game as long as he has ammo.
Warhammer takes the typical rock paper scissors argument into 4 dimensions. It's not pirates vs vikings vs ninjas, it's vampire pirates vs demon vikings vs ratman ninjas, and I am HERE FOR IT.
As someone who grew up on Pirates of the Caribbean Online, I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers it and misses it.
Thank you for making a video on my favorite Total War lord and probably my favorite overall Warhammer character. He just like me fr fr.
Pirates and vamps what else does a man really need realistically.
Dinosaurs
Violence.
Nukes
Sex workers.
What? There's ways to have fun that don't end in hangovers or a violent death.
The Empire.
There's also the fact that the zombies under his command aren't entirely mindless; they're stupid, but somewhat self aware. And incredibly happy because they're not dead.
Which scares the fuck out of anyone he invades because it also means they're smart enough to operate firearms.
I really thought Mr.nonfunctional pancreas would make a do or don’t on Elspeth Von Draken so he could talk about playing the empire more.
Good job on being original 👍
I do want to see one of Elspeth.
I hope GW add him in aos with a ghost ship raiding whatever realm he feels like and dropping a nuke size bomb at Manfred every Monday
I just played Total War Warhammer 1 for the first time, as Grimgor Ironhide of course, I am an Ork Enjoyer after all, and goof grief does this video retroactively make it more satisfying to crush manfred. Namely by repeatedly having him repeatedly assassinated by my best goblin big boss and taking his settlements one by one without him ever even getting to raise an army.
fuckin, GOOD.
Deserved, as always
Ah yea, I remember when you could assassinate/wound lords with agents in WH1, but so could the AI do that to yours. CA ultimately removed the ability of agents to assassinate a Lord in WH2 and WH3 (Hand of the Shadow Crown agent is the exception, and clan Eshin).
That’s got to be the best Pirate I’ve ever seen.
Seriously, I suck at the battles and the final battle for his mission had me lose my entire army. But with mad lad Luther and his terrorgheist I was able to keep dive bombing the final army till it broke.
GW should definitely bring him back as an undead faction in Age of Sigmar.
Some random sigmarine or even Nahash finds a corked bottle and then out of curiosity or they can sense the souls inside they pop it open then suddenly an entire ocean filled with boats, undead pirates, and sea monsters rapidly flood out of the bottle.
My favorite part of Total Warhammer III is when Luthor says its Luthoring time and then blows up Caliba- I mean Lustria
Warhammer Fantasy may have the HRE with tanks, may have undead egyptians with huge golems, may have fantasy china with dragon emperors and primitive zeppelins, may have turbo industrialized persian-like dwarves or mayincatek reptiles with dinosaurs but none of that will ever beat the absolute peak of a combination that is VAMPIRE PIRATES.
Luthor Harkon and Lord Noctilus are probaly the characters that the phrase "goes hard" talks about. mfkers dont care about order or chaos, they are here for blood and plunder and boy do they get it till the heroes of the story show up.
The concept is so stupidly cool i even tried to make something similar in Stellaris but the lack of space monsters to zombify and the empire placements makes it hard to raid anything as a space undead fleet.
This video has single handedly re-piratepilled my brain, but I’m afraid that since this is a UA-cam comment I must instead say “now do gloomspite gitz”
In all seriousness, this channel got me into the fantasy settings and these character focused episodes are some of the best content the setting has going for it. Thank you once more mr. Nowork, Boingob’s blessing upon ye
After the Vampire coast trailer came out, I couldn't help but make my own Vampirate. Sorry for the cringe but I love writing OC's.
Enter Kalys Seaspite, a Lyonnesse maiden who spat in the face of Lyonnesse family plots and arranged marriages by leaping from the cliffs to the Sea. Moved by this motion and a prayer given for a sure death, Manaan blessed her with an almost eternal beauty as she would move along his realm on the currents of the sea... I say almost because as pointed out in this video, those currents eventually lead to the Vampire Coast. In a midst of a gleeful madness, and seeing a PERFECTLY preserved body for the taking, Luthor was all too happy to try and feed on the young Princess. As his fangs sunk into her flesh, the ravages of time started to affect her as the rot and bloat from who knows how long at sea started to affect her. Being not met with fresh blood but instead sea water, Harkon was disgusted and wounded in both parts as Manaan tore what little vengeance he could against the vampire as the water opened wounds in his mouth... Allowing blood to flow into the slowly rotting corpse below him. Unwillingly giving her the blood kiss, Luthor at first played with the idea of tossing her to the sea again and letting the inhabitants therein deal with the fledgling, but already at sea for an important reason, he decided to ignore the problem and continue towards Sartosa. Having her first feeding and finding her first crew there, Kalys would soon become a menace across the Bretonnian coast. Enough eventually that a dwarvish Ironclad would be sent to settle a grudge. There she learned that Vampires fucking HATE inhuman blood and needed something to sate herself after finding she had basically risen her entire crew into undeath during the battle, cause dwarfs are WAY better than peasants at killing pirates it turns out. The crew happily turned her towards the undefended towns, and only after they started coming back with a... SPECIFIC kind of loot did she figure out why. Raising three bretonnian girls as spirits and others as zombies, she'd go on to challenge Harkon... and fail. Becoming just another captain in his fleet, she sailed in a Bretonnian Corsair named "Her Maiden's Virtue" and even picked up a few remnants from the dissolution of the Dreadfleet with some Skaven PiRATS.
this fucks, really good character here
Please cook more.
Thank you PancreasNoWork, you have proven to me that I don't need therapy. Pirate Vampire Emperor is the most badass character concept I have ever heard in my life and I will forever attempt to bring him to a DnD table.
Can't wait for the full vampire coast
Do.
(there is no don't, its the goddamn vampire pirates)
Pirates of the Caribbean Online actually has a free, fan-maintained successor called The Legend of Pirates Online (TLOPO). Disney, in a moment of unnatural and uncharacteristic generosity, gave them permission to run it as long as they didn't charge money and called it something else.
Vampires and pirates are two things that are awesome, but don’t sound like they’d work together.
Then they do. And they work REALLY well.
Hundred percent, I would love a new Luther Harkon model, as the leader of a pirate themed undead faction in AoS
Hopefully we might get a full Vampire Coast Range for the Old World.
This man just hears Alestorm playing nonstop.
Luthor is the unliving embodiment of Calgar TTS saying "I do what I want! And I like what I do"
Normal Vampires "moving water can harm me and I cannot pass them." Wh vampires: "arrrr! And a bottle of rum laced with BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" or something like this... 😅
Funny thing is though, Chaos *loathe* vampires to the point one of the champions of khorne has the ability of curing undead so he could inflict fear on his enemies before killing them.
@@dewmdoomie1730Harrold Hammerstorm the OG Chad himself
@@dewmdoomie1730 Neat
Vlad, Isabella, and Luthor are probably the most chaddest of vampires in Warhammer.
And Helman Ghorst the king of Zombies))
🍾🍾🍾🍷🍷🍷🍷FOR Captain Drekla
I genuinely love Luther and it’s just bc if the way the VA says the lines. So when I got the coast dlc and tomb kings I was actually more into the tomb kings bc I love history but like I played Luther harkon and completely forgotnahout the tomb kings just bc of how awesome he is. I love his campaign and honestly the VA lines make it all for me. Just the way he uses the inflection and tone makes you genuinely believe it’s a raving madman. The other VAs in total war are great but for some reason luthors is just a cut above in my mind. Idk he’s one of my favorite legendary lords just bc of the VA. I love watching his lore video by the book of choyer. I love listening to the curse of the vampire coast sea shanty. He’s just so much fun to play honestly. I’m so happy pancreas covered him. I was gonna try and get him to cover it in lore crines podcast but I’m happy with this tho inwould love to hear and learn more about the other vampire coast lords.
Fifteen men on the dead man’s chest Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!
Drink and the devil had done for the rest Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!
Thank you for the MAC references. Gave me an extra smile or two.
For a long while in Fantasy, I had a small army/detachment of Vampire Coast Pirates using the White Dwarf list for my general Vampire Counts list.
It was awesome to see most people expecting standard Vampire shenanigans only to get blindsided by functional artillery and ranged combat to lead the mayhem.
The absolute scariest part of the Vampire Coast is that it's Brazil.
As a brazilian, I like that. The ocean currents make you come to Brazil whether you like it or not.
Luthor Harkon must be a carioca.
The lizardmen can't catch a break can they? First chaos, then the skaven, and now undead pirates
Imagine a new grand alliance death faction where Nagash just brings back Harkon, gives him a crew, and tells him to kill Idoneth.
His lore downsides of being a victim of Mannfred doesn’t apply to me because the End Times is dumb and the Age of Sigmar is stupid, so I completely disregard everything and as far as I’m concerned the story end when Archaon shows up one last time, cliffhanger ending style.
“A possessed Isabella Von Carsten”
Wait are we just gonna totally fly pass how a vampire even Gets Possessed?
“It’s the Endtimes. Plots gotta happen.”
-PancreasNoWork
he should show up in age of sigmar as a ghost pirate, with the explanation the loot crazy bastard managed to somehow steal powerfrom the now divine nagash
to be fair, during the commonly played times of the old world Luthor was less of a faction with goals and more a natural disaster with cannons and a love of anything expensive
Loved this video, my friend. Outstanding work.
Every time you post I go down a rabbit hole rewatching your old vids
In response to the first question, i would be a pirate with an axe instead of a scimitar. I would use flintlock pistols as clubs. And I would sail around Hong Kong as part of Admiral Cheng's fleet
thumbnail: you move the florida and one of your neighbors swings on by to greet you
"That gotta be the best vampire pirate I've ever seen."
I just learned about this guy and he might just be one of my favorite Warhammer characters ever and I’m not even a fantasy guy
0:38, love the lazy town reference
Is that, like, a california thing?
13:15 so what you're saying is we could've had a fantastic vampire coast army in AoS?
I think I'd like a chat with whoever decided to axe Luthor
the vampire coast undead are quite different from vampire counts too which is cool. They are all kinda self sufficient and more independent so they can do complex tasks that is needed to sail the ships and use guns and cannons and what not, granted its probs like a 30 iq person trying to do it all but their undead arent like perfectly managed movement by movement like other vampires. Also they kinda have a patreon god of sorts? In cylostras lore she is revived by stromfels (a ocean god) and presumably teaches her the lore of the deeps meaning maybe he might help them out and teach them stuff indirectly since he probably likes what the vamp coast is doing. Also their units are probably the coolest in warhammer imo the necofex colosus is the whole reason i got into total war and warhammer in general
Thank you for making warhammer fantasy lore videos.
I had the thought yesterday its been a second since you uploaded, and then boom, Supreme Arch-Commodore, high admiral of the Vampire Coast.
to be fair, it makes sense if his mind was put back together he no longer would be immune to magic, since from the sounds of it, it was having his mind fractured like it was that made him immune to magic
At this point every single faction in Total War Warhammer should have this as part of a victory condition: *KILL. MANNFRED!*
146% *FACTS*
watching your videos gives me enough enjoyment to listen to all the silly lore that happen in this awesome cool game. Total War Warhammer is such a great game!
No way someone else remembered Pirates of the Caribbean Online, I thought I was the only one 😂 used to love playing that
Yeargh me harties! Where's are the bloody rum gone?
So as an old skool dwarves player I stopped playing fantasy when all my friends started playing 40k and having never heard about this character before this has been a very enjoyable video. I do love vampires and pirates so getting to learn about a badass vampire pirate has made my morning a very enjoyable one so far.
Love your channel!
Whoever said "Vampirates" at the board meeting deserves a promotion
Looking forward to a Malus Darkblade video.
A likeable Mannfred who can single-handedly beat armies can't go wrong.
That's still the edgiest name to ever exist
4:55 in all fairness he literally is a corpse that washed up there, it's less him being lucky and more him being uniquely suited to the situation - sounds like 6 or two threes but I wouldn't call it luck if so many bodies wash up in that spot.
Like everyone else would just drown, vampires don't need to breathe so any other vampire getting shipwrecked in the area would produce similar results
my favorite warhammer fantasy character by far just love that mad lad. He is perfection.
I saw what you did with that opening line you brilliant man…well played
If you like vampire pirates i highly recommend "Journery of black and red".
Arienne of the Nirari is a not insane Luthor, and i a world of vampires that study the blade for thousands of years she instead decided to use artillery barrages.
you are realy cranking these vedios out
I never really like the vampire coast, but i recently played a luthor harkon campaign in warhammer 3 and i fell in love with him and the aesthetic 11/10
The character who convinced me to buy Total War Warhammer.
Can I just say I love you did your research on the fact he was on the Tabletop? The entire Vampire Coasts army was a White Dwarf Armylist which, given the pre-Chapterhouse State of GW, was based entirely around conversions - Queen Bess was to be a converted Hellcannon, Luthor based on a Von Carstein Vampire, adding Imperial Millitia bits to Zombies to make them seem piratey, etc etc. They made it for the Lustria Worldwide campaign - Ebony Skulls included, and never supported it afterwards, and Harkon even appearing in the End Times was a bit of a shock to people - Other similar White Dwarf Lists never got any referrence again like the Rhinox Rider Ogres.
And then some mad man at Creative Assembly either knew of him, or found out, and decided "We've run dry of armies who could be here, let's bring in the undead pirates!" And thus established the CA brand of being able to upgrade GW stuff that hadn't been done much with. Other examples include Kislev (A more formal armybook that was expanding on a WD list), Cathay (Not even a WD list) and several different characters (The Moulder Rat Ogre with a Chaos Warrior brain and Harald Hammerstorm are WD entries, Grom and Repanse were OOP for multiple editions by the end of Fantasy...)
There's a fan reboot of Pirates online called the legends of pirates online and IT'S SUPER GOOD
I want Luthor Harkon, Settra, and Caiaphus Cain all in a room together just to see what happens
Cain will run from the room, Settra and Harkon will do dick measuring contest until Harkons bad personality take over and start attacking Settra.
00:18 A fellow enlightened POTCO enjoyer, I see!
One of your best videos yet I have to say. But then.. I just love Harkon. If you're going to keep giving me what I like after Rogue Traders and Harkon, can we have Skarsnik next?
I actually have my own pirate vampire character. He’s known as Aaron the bloodwake. As a man he was solely dedicated to whatever he thought was fun at the time being a pirate privateering for a merchant lord of the empire stealing from the empire eventually getting caught where he decided serving a mad man would be fun smashing an ebony skull becoming a vampire and proceeding to butcher his opposition. His name comes from the fact that sword fighting is fun. He is blinding fast and stupidly strong on top of his necromantic abilities so much so that Gotric had issues fighting him till Aaron got bored and bounced.
Dam.... I've been looking for a army in AOS since I only have a 2 40k army's and I'd 100% choose thia guy if he was an option. Cool pirate bro
If Mannfred was in 40K there already would have been 40K: End Times.
Or how Mannfred destroys planet holding Nachmunds Gauntlet making available to go to Nihilus and to Sanctus because he see Vlad and Isabella there.
The rule about multiple personalities also said that you would roll a dice if Luthor lost his last wound: on a 6, a stronger personality will take control and allow him to carrie on, with 1 wound left.
There is a criminally low number of Pirate Mechas out there and i never thought Fantasy would be where i found one of them
Wouldn't say that it's that lucky that Harkon, aboard a direlect ship, wound up at a place where direlect ships wind up. That's just basic causality.
The battle of the dead and buried is legit one of my favorite and least favorite parts of the end times because the vampires were my favorite faction and it feels like this was their last stand before Nagash took over.
It felt like a zombie movie, the last of the noble vampires, (and also Manfred) soloing an entire army before each having a heroic last stand (except Manfred)
Even Vlad had a noble death because he didn’t have it in him to kill potentially the only person he ever truly loved in Isabella
He could be like Vlad where when the vampires were run out of Nehekhara he went to the north and integrated into Empire/Kislev/etc culture, then after a time he began his pirate shenanigans. The nehekharan origin story is still very possible even given his accent and the titles he likes.
For awesome game pirates, I would counter with La Capitan, from Sentinels of the Multiverse, AKA Maria Helena Teresa Fafila Servanda Jimena Mansuara Paterna Domenga Gelvira Placia Sendina Belita Eufemia Columba Gontina Aldonza Mafalda Cristina Tegrida de Falcon (she adds names as she travels). Captain of the time traveling galleon La Paradoja Magnifica.
She later turns Hero for the apocalyptic fight. Now hundreds of years old, gray-haired La Commodora has divested herself of her time-displaced crew, but has augmented her ship with magic, technology, and even more temporal shenanigans. When she fires a broadside, she opens multiple time portals beside her, firing her ship's guns from different time periods to hit you with ten times the cannonballs that should have been possible.
Magnificent paradox, indeed.
8:33 thanks for the cursed imagery, dude.
Nakai mentioned, getting closer to his own vid i hope
If only his stats in TWH matched his lore powers
@@victory8928he got done dirty, Gor Rok is closer to his lore strength than he is in game
You have convinced me to play WH3 and play as Harkon now.
Treasure Island is one of my favorite books
I imagine Luthor doing Livesey walk