NEW Prismatic Subclass Info! (Destiny 2: The Final Shape)

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  • @mercable7574
    @mercable7574 6 місяців тому +655

    I remember thinking "What is Bungie thinking with Void 3.0, the Witch Queen is going to be so easy" and while Void 3.0 was awesome in the legendary campaign, the difficulty is definitely still there. I think we should switch from "What is Bungie thinking" to "Wtf is Bungie about to put us through" lol

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 місяців тому +97

      Here’s another layer to it…
      Rumors and leaks abound that, staring in Final Shape, we’ll be seeing the first (proper, non-glitched) 12 man PVE activities after we defeat The Witness in their raid…
      *_12 man PVE, WITH Prismatic._*
      Imagine the difficulty spike they’re going to throw at us to justify THAT.

    • @Wormy_fren
      @Wormy_fren 6 місяців тому +36

      ​@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Probably somewhere around the thirty wyvern threat level.

    • @dascreeb5205
      @dascreeb5205 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire that's scary

    • @smth_smth_idk_xd
      @smth_smth_idk_xd 6 місяців тому +16

      Overload threshers? Barrier wyverns?

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 місяців тому +12

      @@smth_smth_idk_xd
      Red/orange/yellow bar champions of ALL existing and future ads?
      Overload Taken Psions that never stop splitting? Barrier Taken Goblins that share their champion shield with other units? Unstoppable Gladiators that bum-rush you like lunatics?

  • @IWearShoes31
    @IWearShoes31 6 місяців тому +215

    3:18 I feel like if someone a month ago showed that subclass screen as a leak that would have though it was a Photoshop and no one would have believed them

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux 6 місяців тому

      Bet they threw this together solely to sell TFS. It probably didn't even exist a month or 2 ago.

    • @Ui_Raizen
      @Ui_Raizen 6 місяців тому

      I’m sure they’ll fix it and it’ll be animated

    • @SabrinaAberman
      @SabrinaAberman 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Ui_Raizenit was the placeholder icons for prismatic, this is the most reasonable reason because of the armour screen in the recent stream having lots of placeholder icons

    • @Surzingonwaves
      @Surzingonwaves 6 місяців тому +2

      i reinstalled destiny 2 & hundreds of women flooded my dms, they said "wow, do you main solar titan??" at first i was afraid (i do not talk to women) Then, I began to understand this is the power of destiny 2, the game. This is what Bungie has been working towards all these years

    • @Ui_Raizen
      @Ui_Raizen 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Surzingonwaves gotta be a bot comment

  • @mrfunk-z6w
    @mrfunk-z6w 6 місяців тому +129

    This is undeniably power creep, but I don't think it'll push out other builds ENTIRELY since you're still limited by which specific abilities you can pick. Like, a Prismatic hunter can't use any arc grenades aside from arcbolt, so if I want to use my Shinobu's Vow skip grenade build I'm still using the base arc subclass

    • @kalebmoody-felix7896
      @kalebmoody-felix7896 6 місяців тому +29

      I feel like they pulled the worse aspect from every subclass on hunter for prismatic with the exception of threaded specter

    • @mena10ss
      @mena10ss 6 місяців тому +10

      We'll have to wait for more clarification, but I'm pretty sure you have other grenades and aspects to choose from. All this "freedom" would be the biggest L ever if they force you to have only 1 aspect from an element that you can use. For example, the chart shows Gunpowder gamble, but what if I'd rather have knock em down? Time will tell

    • @aurioh
      @aurioh 6 місяців тому +11

      @@kalebmoody-felix7896 Yeah the hunter aspects look really weak. Stylish executioner is nice for Gyrfalcon’s but I don’t really care about the rest. Other abilities feel subpar too- grapple without the related aspect on strand is eh, magnetic grenade is eh, knife trick is nice in PvE but I’d much rather have weighted overall, and a lot of the others are fine but only because there’s not really a better option in slot. Seems like this might not actually be all that crazy for power creep.
      Edit: Having watched a little more also seems like there’s no access to healing unless you’re on golden gun and have the fragment that gives restoration on orb pickup. Honestly for all the talk of power creep I’m not sure it’ll be any stronger than a properly built nightstalker or gunslinger.

    • @EatsUsedTP
      @EatsUsedTP 6 місяців тому +4

      @@mena10ssyou can't it says those are the aspect options, there will be more fragments though

    • @zackphy
      @zackphy 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@mena10ss no, this is all that'll be available for the prismatic subclass. It's WAY more restrictive than we initially thought. It also means the single element subclasses will still have many uses and probably be superior, in many cases. Well lock, strand titan, and multiple hunter subclasses seem overall stronger than this. They're intentionality giving us the least used ones like gunpowder gamble and the like.

  • @bonesofeao3968
    @bonesofeao3968 6 місяців тому +204

    Ah yes, the 6 subclass elements: solar, arc, void, stasis, strand, and drugs.

    • @Me-ob4kb
      @Me-ob4kb 6 місяців тому +38

      Light: fire, lighting, and space
      Dark: ice, strings, and crack

    • @limo7976
      @limo7976 6 місяців тому +24

      Let me fix it for you "Ah yes, the 6 subclass elements: solar, arc, void, stasis, strand, solar, arc, void, stasis, and strand."

    • @garrettviewegh9028
      @garrettviewegh9028 6 місяців тому +7

      Still hope we get a third/final Darkness subclass after Final Shape. Why do I still think we’ll get a third darkness subclass? Destiny has always dealt in themes of symmetry. Bungie even said in an interview, when Beyond Light launched, that there would be three darkness subclasses to reflect the three light ones.

    • @truv_
      @truv_ 6 місяців тому +3

      @@garrettviewegh9028 dont have your hopes up

    • @garrettviewegh9028
      @garrettviewegh9028 6 місяців тому +4

      @@truv_ Oh I’ve learned to temper my expectations when it comes to Bungie.

  • @ThePackman627
    @ThePackman627 6 місяців тому +122

    there is a reason throwing hammer isn't on there. Bungie specifically picked things to make sure Mono builds wouldn't be powercrept

    • @bragekv9937
      @bragekv9937 6 місяців тому +3

      yea nah, mono builds need buffs to compete with what is show already.

    • @bransonallen2925
      @bransonallen2925 6 місяців тому +11

      ​@bragekv9937 the new exotic class items remedy that pretty well enough as is. There are a ton of exotics that have middling effects on their own, but when combined can be super potent. Think Doomfang Pauldrons + Second Chance. Caliban's Hand + Ophidia Spathe.

    • @TheAndymacm
      @TheAndymacm 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@bransonallen2925 How does that remedy the situation? The new class items don't work on the regular mono element subclasses.

    • @bransonallen2925
      @bransonallen2925 6 місяців тому +5

      @@TheAndymacm where did they say this?

    • @khelawesome
      @khelawesome 6 місяців тому +8

      On the exotic class item description

  • @DestinyCool202
    @DestinyCool202 6 місяців тому +573

    Bungie really said "screw the balance" and pulled a syndrome.
    "we'll make everyone OP, and when everyone's OP, no one will be."

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 6 місяців тому +76

      Yes and to be honest destiny is never going to be balanced anyway, the day Destiny 2 is balanced is the day I see pigs fly.

    • @MachePatate3000
      @MachePatate3000 6 місяців тому +9

      @@DragonKnight90001y3 of destiny 2. Where weapons were king instead of ability

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 6 місяців тому +9

      @@MachePatate3000 yeah but year 3 had its own meta’s too. I meant balanced as in every ability and weapon were not meta but at the same time they could compete with each other without any problems.

    • @NamebeDale_592
      @NamebeDale_592 6 місяців тому +15

      Dregs in the Cosmadrome: why I hear boss music
      Titan: HI again new stuff to kill you with

    • @jonathonshirley4169
      @jonathonshirley4169 6 місяців тому +9

      @@MachePatate3000lol Y3… does nobody else remember warmind cells or oppressive darkness???

  • @AutiCyrptArch
    @AutiCyrptArch 6 місяців тому +253

    Destiny 2: INTO THE KITCHEN

    • @joshuajohnson4431
      @joshuajohnson4431 6 місяців тому +20

      D2: The Cookening

    • @phonkydude1618
      @phonkydude1618 6 місяців тому +22

      D2: the final cook

    • @Surzingonwaves
      @Surzingonwaves 6 місяців тому +4

      i reinstalled destiny 2 & hundreds of women flooded my dms, they said "wow, do you main solar titan??" at first i was afraid (i do not talk to women) Then, I began to understand this is the power of destiny 2, the game. This is what Bungie has been working towards all these years

    • @marinawolf
      @marinawolf 6 місяців тому

      YES CHEF!

    • @cthulha_north
      @cthulha_north 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Surzingonwaves i get its a joke but it works for women too. XD thats how i had a bf just by playing destiny

  • @IrishGamerJG
    @IrishGamerJG 6 місяців тому +294

    I still think Bungie saw how we reacted to the craftening they probably saw we wanted chaos

    • @Fruckert
      @Fruckert 6 місяців тому +41

      The Classening

    • @burningsun6755
      @burningsun6755 6 місяців тому +9

      imagine the party mix of bug this will unleash ...
      game will be unplayable

    • @jmfe10
      @jmfe10 6 місяців тому +7

      Except they put a bunch of restrictions and we're not actually going to be making fun combos.

    • @dogman1772
      @dogman1772 6 місяців тому +2

      The Build-craftening..

    • @vorpal_exe
      @vorpal_exe 6 місяців тому +22

      @@jmfe10 my brother in the Light, this is just what's coming for now, they'll probably add a lot more stuff once they see how Prismatic behaves in the sandbox and the reaction of the players, y'all just love to fucking complain

  • @zackphy
    @zackphy 6 місяців тому +21

    So not nearly as open as we initially thought, especially on the super side. It also means single element subclasses will still have many uses, namely things like Solar Warlock with well and Strand Titan.

  • @damonm.
    @damonm. 6 місяців тому +13

    Tesselation makes more since now after what I saw yesterday. I'm really interested in what Tesselation does with those transcendent grenades when you load them into it

  • @theomen6333
    @theomen6333 6 місяців тому +54

    People say you will never use the other subclasses again. i disagree. We only are getting certain aspects and certain abilities. So unless bungie gives us the rest of the aspects and abilities. the others will still be viable. that being said this will hundred percent be my fav subclass

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 6 місяців тому +4

      Definitely gonna enjoy making an unstoppable stasis and void titan build.

    • @limo7976
      @limo7976 6 місяців тому

      This isn't a subclass it's a combination of the ones we have

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 6 місяців тому +6

      @@limo7976 it's a subclass. The devs said so. You're competing with the creators of it if you think otherwise.

    • @theomen6333
      @theomen6333 6 місяців тому +1

      @@limo7976 true but why complain. With the combos you can pull, and with there being a chance we get more aspects and abilities, it might as well be a brand new subclass. You cannot tell me this won’t be sick

    • @HRforges
      @HRforges 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah Well and Bubble still require solar/void respectively and some of the better aspects just aren't on Prismatic. They definitely didn't go full balls to the walls on powercreep with this one.

  • @hithere5553
    @hithere5553 6 місяців тому +33

    Domain expansion: benevolent kitchen

  • @seapunkandroid
    @seapunkandroid 6 місяців тому +54

    TBH I'm cool with the curated aspects/ability selections per class. There's definitely a lot of options here that favor synergy as showcased in the ViDoc, but if you want access to some the most powerful individual abilities you'll still need to go all in on a core subclass. (Banner of War! Bubble! Whatever post-nerf Well is like!) Definitely powerful, but probably not as over-the-top as people thought.

    • @diamonddotzip5678
      @diamonddotzip5678 6 місяців тому +2

      The nerf to Well is that you can't use it on Prismatic
      Also, while I'm also fine with having a curated selection, there are a few options that I just feel should've also been included, like the hunter's arc slide melee. I love that move, and if you could combine it with the void hunter dive it would give you a great option to get out of the air right after using it. Really play into the idea that hunters are supposed to be super maneuverable, especially since they can blink and use grapple at the same time now.
      At the very least they need to include the Mask of Bakris dodge as one of the options for the exotic cloak

    • @bombshellblonde544
      @bombshellblonde544 6 місяців тому

      I am fine with it not being over-the-top. I do not want the other subclasses power crept out of the game. I want there to be more than one endgame viable build that people are forced to use. Curation both ensures other builds are still viable AND ensures there are synergies instead of just leaving everything from every subclass accessible without caring for it. It wouldn't feel like a real independent subclass otherwise. If it were this crazy busted over-the-top thing people expected/wanted, that would result in everyone only being permitted to do ONE thing in difficult content for the rest of time (?) so it's a strictly good choice imo

  • @zaaralejandro3501
    @zaaralejandro3501 6 місяців тому +71

    Warlocks really gonna be pokemon trainers out there

    • @tridentgreen3346
      @tridentgreen3346 6 місяців тому +10

      Go Pikasun, PikaBlackHole, Pikachusphere, Pichulings!

    • @meekumanu
      @meekumanu 6 місяців тому +2

      No Child of the Old Gods is heartbreaking 💔

    • @marinawolf
      @marinawolf 6 місяців тому

      @@meekumanu arc buddies?

    • @joeybisson2684
      @joeybisson2684 6 місяців тому

      @@marinawolf I'm hoping that getaway artist works with prismatic, and that it overwrites bleakwatcher so I can use forerunner plus transcendence nade and song of flame for bleakwatchers while still keeping arc soul active.

  • @KalvinKoolAidKool
    @KalvinKoolAidKool 6 місяців тому +58

    Bungie after seeing pre order sales being low
    “I GOT ONE MORE IN ME”

    • @marinawolf
      @marinawolf 6 місяців тому

      This has been in the works for a very long time. It's not a response.

    • @thenexus7343
      @thenexus7343 6 місяців тому

      ​@@marinawolfinto the light was the response. I'd say. They probably knew they needed sonething good to hold us down and Timegating was nessasary

    • @Ramattra567
      @Ramattra567 6 місяців тому

      @@marinawolf its suspected that it was last minute, cause originally they said "there will not be a new subclass in the final shape" durring the og showcase but i wouldn't be surprised if they just kept it secret and lied to us so they had more time to work on it"

  • @nirifer7275
    @nirifer7275 6 місяців тому +14

    I like how every transcendent grenade has a form of CC. Making sure those caught can't just get out.

  • @BananaMan72
    @BananaMan72 6 місяців тому +290

    THEY COOKED.

    • @Jpow5734
      @Jpow5734 6 місяців тому +22

      And we gonna be eating GOOD

    • @xxteep9998
      @xxteep9998 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Jpow5734definitely

    • @doomsandmore
      @doomsandmore 6 місяців тому +15

      They had no choice it was cook or die.

    • @svgnb
      @svgnb 6 місяців тому +2

      All they need is to have two damage types super combine.(exp. stasis, super combines on solar damage)

    • @ryansamala2909
      @ryansamala2909 6 місяців тому

      How many times are we gonna see this bot ass “cooked” comment?

  • @kayval274
    @kayval274 6 місяців тому +37

    Shiver strike. Bro, I'm tweaking right now. Straight foaming at the mouth.

    • @owenking1499
      @owenking1499 6 місяців тому +1

      Hopefully this is an example of the changes/interactions to better utilise previously underused abilities 😅

    • @rubensnderstrup-granquist2995
      @rubensnderstrup-granquist2995 6 місяців тому +2

      Dude its a massive day for all 5 shiver strike users🔥

  • @Toriental_VortX
    @Toriental_VortX 6 місяців тому +42

    As a blink lock main, who alternated stasis.., for the blink filled winter is coming.

    • @Amirifiz
      @Amirifiz 6 місяців тому +8

      Phoenix dive, frost pulse.
      Dive into someone and melee after

    • @hayest.68
      @hayest.68 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Amirifiz I don’t think we’re getting frostpulse?

    • @Toriental_VortX
      @Toriental_VortX 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Amirifiz No frost pulse sadly!

    • @Amirifiz
      @Amirifiz 6 місяців тому +1

      @@hayest.68 Yra, just saw that. It's good that there's some restrictions but it did take the wind outta my sails just a little.

    • @BRIKHOS
      @BRIKHOS 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@Amirifiz but blink into double coldsnap is there! Here's hoping we can get class exotics with astro and osmio

  • @Walmartin86
    @Walmartin86 6 місяців тому +16

    The new weapons from brave arsenal do the opposite of the first fragment. So you get double the energy on both!!

    • @sand_sand7304
      @sand_sand7304 6 місяців тому +1

      Grab a kinetic from the brave arsenal, because dealing damage with kinetic damage counts as both dark and light damage!

  • @shaggy7327
    @shaggy7327 6 місяців тому +35

    Warlock War Crimes

  • @Grassdia
    @Grassdia 6 місяців тому +15

    im actually really happy they didnt just give us everything from every class so it still leaves the other classes viable

    • @LunaCorart
      @LunaCorart 6 місяців тому

      No jolt dodge screwed the build I had planned unfortunately

    • @Grassdia
      @Grassdia 6 місяців тому

      @@LunaCorart yeah I get that. I was pretty bumbed I couldn’t use BoW with bonk hammer but I feel like they just don’t want the other classes to become irrelevant and just make this new class a sort of experimental class

    • @LunaCorart
      @LunaCorart 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Grassdia I was gonna do combo blow, jolt dodge, threaded specter. Then for the exotics. Bombardier, the titan one that makes melee kills explode, and then felwinters helm
      Jolt explosive punches that spread weakness to enemies, then when I dodge I make two more bombs

  • @worldlinezero4783
    @worldlinezero4783 6 місяців тому +8

    I hope there will be some way for Warlocks to have access to every pet at once. I would be so happy

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 6 місяців тому +5

    I've always wanted to use Blink with Lightning surge for the blink fantasy. But now I can! With synthoceps and Astrocyte exotics, my lightning surge will hit harder as well as blink farther.
    I do wish I can use icarus dash in the future. Having icarus dash might synergize well with Blink because it can give greater control with your blink directions! Grapple grenade will be nice as well. I want all those movements!

  • @ZGamingGuy
    @ZGamingGuy 6 місяців тому +3

    Warlock with chromatic fire is going to go nuts with transcendence. Since you can fill both bars with the kinetic, while also debuffing nearby enemies, plus that fragment..

  • @darkshotmk3
    @darkshotmk3 6 місяців тому +24

    I love it. But the only thing I am q little sad about is we still can't have every child/buddy for warlocks. We were so close to assembling the infinity gauntlet

    • @zovcy
      @zovcy 6 місяців тому +8

      the infinity child

    • @platonicbrov5004
      @platonicbrov5004 6 місяців тому +3

      Same! I was so excited to get all the little summons.

    • @dylansams4064
      @dylansams4064 6 місяців тому +2

      you still can, but it requires a lot of jank and isnt at all worth it lol

    • @Charlie092
      @Charlie092 6 місяців тому +2

      if one teammate gives you arc soul and you steal another mate's void buddy with the exotic, you can have all 5 summons ;)

    • @InexactPenny4
      @InexactPenny4 6 місяців тому

      @@Charlie092Was about to say that arc soul may be possible with Getaway Artist and Storm Grenade or just from going in an Arc Warlock’s arc soul rift, but can you confirm 100% that Briarbinds lets you kidnap someone else’s Child? Didn’t think something like that was possible.

  • @kadmodir
    @kadmodir 6 місяців тому +38

    This is definitely one of those Pandora's box moments tho, Like this is really cool but it's the end of class balance

    • @sequoia7284
      @sequoia7284 6 місяців тому +15

      It’s really not. There are still plenty of things unique to the monochrome subclasses, like banner of war. That alone means berserker is probably still better than prismatic.

    • @bragekv9937
      @bragekv9937 6 місяців тому +4

      @@sequoia7284 well for now atleast. Bungie showing they are willing to nuke balance just for some short term hype is not something that need to be celebrated 100%. Careful what you wish for...

    • @failfurby
      @failfurby 6 місяців тому +5

      Class balance is meaningless in everything but PvP. And, it's super easy to just turn off Prismatic in PvP

    • @voidyll5582
      @voidyll5582 6 місяців тому +1

      Eh, it's the end of this saga of destiny, this was exactly what bungie needed to get people excited for the game one last time before the majority of long time players drop the game, final shape was gonna flop with bungie alongside it if they didn't do something of this scale

  • @seb5542
    @seb5542 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm definitely going to run astrocytes, blink, phoenix dive, winters wrath, penumbral blast/arcane needle, weavers call and lightning surge/bleakwatchers in PvP.
    I might also test out song of flame out with this too.

  • @ExoticCatLitter
    @ExoticCatLitter 6 місяців тому +5

    I think that these subclasses are going to be stupid broken. But I love it. We are the Traveler’s Chosen. A champion of the light. The witness is one of if not the most powerful being we’ve faced up against. We’re going to need to pull out all the stops. The content we’re going to play through will still be challenging despite how op we are. Just from seeing that some of the aspects work from “ability final blows” or “defeating targets effected by any subclass debuff” I think this will be a lot more beginner friendly than people thought at first. You’re not gonna have to jump through a bunch of crazy hoops to get the most out of a build. Thanks for coming to my ted talk lmao

  • @CowKirbo
    @CowKirbo 6 місяців тому +2

    Damn they really thought "you know what would be great? Lets just make every previous subclass irrelevant and basically force players to spend $50 to make them have any chance at anything."
    This is a sick ass concept and I really want it, but this should not be behind a $50 dlc

  • @AurelieAris
    @AurelieAris 6 місяців тому +3

    Love the idea of this subclass because in the future any added subclasses are gonna retroactively make this one even cooler

  • @achaea6587
    @achaea6587 6 місяців тому +3

    i feel like the class specific grenades could be changed to have the three prismatic grenades available to all classes, and you just pick the one you like best.

  • @poisonpen37
    @poisonpen37 6 місяців тому +6

    I think the restrictions on Prismatic are good, but with that in mind, I'm extremely disappointed that the exotic class item perks only work on the Prismatic subclass. I think that needs to change.

  • @Splaffy-0-
    @Splaffy-0- 6 місяців тому +2

    They will at some point either have to make new aspects for prismatic alone, OR implement older ones from the core subclasses, either way this is likely (and hopefully) not the only way that prismatic is going to look in terms of aspect building especially when it comes to pick ups like shards and firesprites

  • @lightdestroyer626
    @lightdestroyer626 6 місяців тому +5

    Missed the opportunity to call the titan transcendent grenade the live wire grenade.

  • @spynix0718
    @spynix0718 6 місяців тому +6

    I don't think this will power creep anything. They were very selective in their options with Prismatic. One of the strongest builds in the game until this recent season was Bonk Hammer Titan with Sol Invictus and Roaring Flames. This combo is impossible to get with Prismatic, as none of the main abilities (Besides fragments) appear in the Prismatic class.

    • @vrika4280
      @vrika4280 6 місяців тому

      I do think it will powercreep if there are no downsides in power, maybe they will increase cooldowns, idk, but considering the transcendent state is an extra powerup, and the added combinations you can have between supers, exotics, weapons perks, surges, artifact mods that will further enhance certain duos, and just simple examples of being able to combine stuff like Radiant and Restoration with Strand Banner of War and Woven Mail, Strand with Void Overshields, Volatile Rounds, plus Unraveling, hell maybe you can proc Devour and Weaken all at once, etc. does sound really powerful.

    • @ParrishT3
      @ParrishT3 6 місяців тому

      @@vrika4280 Powercreep implies that they aren't going to inherently buff enemies with more HP or defenses. It looked like in the play video that those enemies were taking quite a bit of damage even with the new class changes. I think it will look like powercreep but they are going to 100% make enemies a little more difficult.

  • @seanathaalexand
    @seanathaalexand 6 місяців тому +4

    I commented on Byf’s video that I was hoping us Warlocks would get to embrace the single parent archetype, but Dayumn! I didn’t think they’d actually give it to us!

  • @Narfwak
    @Narfwak 6 місяців тому +1

    One thing I haven't seen people talk about - this opens up a lot of interesting options for ***really*** crazy roguelite activities in the future. The biggest problem with things like Deep Dive and Coil is that there just aren't enough modifiers and they don't modify your class enough. Imagine a new activity that is prismatic only, but has more options in terms of abilities and aspects available for really, really crazy run potential.

  • @ZGamingGuy
    @ZGamingGuy 6 місяців тому +1

    As for the balance of it, I think they are leaving out some of the most potent options from some subclasses. Like there's no fusion grenade for example.
    Even if that's the case, this seems simply too fun not to do. Even if it ends up not being optimal somehow, I wouldn't even care

  • @grimms1916
    @grimms1916 6 місяців тому +4

    Cant wait to make a warlock build with osmiomancy, an exotic class item with get away artist, the hellion fragment and threadling grenades to become the all new summoner class

    • @shadow_blaze2317
      @shadow_blaze2317 6 місяців тому +1

      What makes you think we'll be able to use an exotic armor and class item?

    • @grimms1916
      @grimms1916 6 місяців тому +2

      @@shadow_blaze2317 because nothing so far has indicated we cant. And even if that is the case, get an exotic CI with getaway and osmio on it. Problem solved

    • @mitchellenderson7194
      @mitchellenderson7194 6 місяців тому

      Doesn’t Osmiomancy only work with Coldsnaps?

    • @shadow_blaze2317
      @shadow_blaze2317 6 місяців тому

      @@grimms1916 it might not be that simple since the exotic class item perks we've seen have only been part of normal exotic perks like the Opidian perk only being ready and stow speed.

  • @kissushoto
    @kissushoto 6 місяців тому +3

    Basically, Prismatic is the jack of all trades while the mono-clases are the specialization

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 6 місяців тому

      Yes. Jack of all trades master of none.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 місяців тому +5

    My question is…
    *_How are mono-element builds going to be relevant in the future?_*
    Because WHY would I use “Just” strand or Solar when I can wield both and more at the same time? Sure, I guess mono-element builds would be better for specialist builds, but Prismatic looks vastly superior even with that in mind.

    • @misfitmush
      @misfitmush 6 місяців тому +1

      WHY would you only wanna do mono?

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 місяців тому +2

      @@misfitmush
      That’s the point I’m trying to make.
      At this point ALL of the existing subclasses should just be collapsed into prismatic, UNLESS Bungie is drastically buffing the current subclasses to contend halfway.

    • @pearsonschofield7626
      @pearsonschofield7626 6 місяців тому +2

      You wanna use banner of war? Mono. Bubble? Mono. Well? Mono, spec blades? Mono, BB? Mono, Nova warp? Mono. The list goes on and on.

    • @misfitmush
      @misfitmush 6 місяців тому +1

      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire the only things I see them gate keeping if they gatekeep at all, are things that are already strong in the sandbox. For pvp balance reasons, they can't outright let everything mix. It'd be cool in pve if they did though.

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 місяців тому +1

      @@pearsonschofield7626
      But then that creates another problem…
      Imagine being in the new raid, and everyone else is having fun like they’re hopped up on ketamine, LSD and steroids, zipping and dipping all around and up and down on their enemies with style…
      And you’re STILL the Well/Bubble guy that hardly got any new toys to mix things up in comparison. Don’t you think that might make some people a smidge… Resentful?

  • @hjasdjkfa8240
    @hjasdjkfa8240 6 місяців тому +3

    This subclass is made for experienced players, you aren’t meant to take this subclass off. For new players though it may be to confusing so there’s still the premade subclasses for them.

    • @imnotyourshadow
      @imnotyourshadow 6 місяців тому +4

      It’s not good enough for people to run this in most cases, no access to sunbracers, banner of war, well, or gathering storm is a massive dealbreaker and means it probably won’t be that good

    • @dylansams4064
      @dylansams4064 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@imnotyourshadowmany people do just fine without those builds anyway so i think well live

    • @glazedmarrow8344
      @glazedmarrow8344 6 місяців тому

      @@dylansams4064 He's right, titan and warlock wont be good. Hunters will be busted. As for being fine, 90% of this game is easy enough to do with white gear, so that isn't really a factor, but they should still be fully customizable, not this partial indecisive bs.

  • @jonathonshirley4169
    @jonathonshirley4169 6 місяців тому +4

    Ok well then… that’s significantly less broken than I thought especially on hunter. Sucks we have zero dives and besides duskfield all of our nades suck. Thankfully the aspects look pretty decent besides stasis and strand

  • @ChaseTheCrim
    @ChaseTheCrim 6 місяців тому +2

    My biggest problem is how they had to give stasis to 2 classes because we didn't had a third option. We always knew that the hunters are THE solar class and the negative color of solar was stasis. Warlocks were THE void class and they should had the strand as the negative color of the void IS strand NOT stasis and finally titans being the arc class they should have had the arc + red darkness class that everyone was hyping up for. Im not disappointed about the new subclass and it looks awesome but I just see the perfection that we can never achieve now.

  • @paradoxicalnexus7246
    @paradoxicalnexus7246 6 місяців тому

    You're not wrong Fallout, it was called Radiance, you were referring to Song Of Flame. I love it too because of the crazy spam you got and the increased ability generation spread to nearby allies.

  • @eamonmulholland3159
    @eamonmulholland3159 6 місяців тому

    I'm glad it's curated and focusing on an element still has a purpose. If you want Bubble or Well, gotta run those subclasses. If you see someone with Child of the Old Gods or Arc Soul, you know they're full in on that element. Hunters though... totally made out like a bandit with this one IMHO. They got nearly every movement ability (only big one missing is shatter dive), and are the only class that can run Grapple with Prismatic if I'm understanding this right. I'm a hunter main, and this looks like my new main (picking 1 from each column and 2 from the last):
    -Storm’s Edge (teleporting arc knife super)
    -Acrobat’s Dodge (become radiant)
    -Blink!
    -Withering Blade (stasis shurikens to easily spread slow)
    -Grapple!
    -Ascension (new arc aspect for upwards movement)
    -Stylish Executioner (invis and truesight when killing a debuffed enemy)
    Just insane movement with grapple + blink + dodge + ascension, and that real assassin/ninja fantasy of dropping in on someone, priming them with a shuriken, cleaning up while they are trying to turn and find out where you just flew in from and react (while slowed!), and then entering invis and getting truesight to hunt the next target.

  • @LowLifeDust
    @LowLifeDust 6 місяців тому

    Anyone else notice the brave weapon trait Indomitability gives energy based on light and dark ability usage, these weapons are going to synergize so good with Prism!

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw 6 місяців тому

    I’m super excited to use it week one. After that, I’m still not sure this won’t just obsolete the other classes, but I’m not sure how to change that without gutting the subclass or overtuning solo elements’ synergies, in turn obsoleting Prismatic, and then chasing the tail of ‘what element is OP this update’ until the end of time.

  • @Bew7
    @Bew7 6 місяців тому +8

    The way that the article is worded it sounds like you won't need to buy the other expansions in order to enjoy all the powers this one starts you off with, if that is what they intend to do. Then this will easily be the best expansion they have put out,ever.

  • @mkloven101
    @mkloven101 6 місяців тому +9

    So this is the infamous red subclass

    • @InheritorIX
      @InheritorIX 6 місяців тому +1

      Ngl I’m disappointed it’s not a third darkness subclass

    • @mkloven101
      @mkloven101 6 місяців тому

      @@InheritorIX we’ll get that with one of the new episodes according to the leaks

    • @vrika4280
      @vrika4280 6 місяців тому

      @@InheritorIX I would've preferred the red subclass, prismatic sounds great, but it does feel like a slap to standard subclasses, taking away their individuality. I don't know if they saw the Warframe subsume system, and just said fck it, we need people to come back, and I imagine it would be faster to develop to fill in the gap, than an entire new subclass.

  • @probablysam2744
    @probablysam2744 6 місяців тому +4

    Good to see things like Banner of War won't be available for obvious reasons

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 6 місяців тому +4

      I wish we at least got 2 of the 4 aspects for each element instead of 1.

    • @ohdeer2069
      @ohdeer2069 6 місяців тому

      Well of radiance cough cough

    • @probablysam2744
      @probablysam2744 6 місяців тому +3

      @@theremnants6807 Grenades too, I was a little disappointed about that given how that universally gave them to every class now. But regardless looks cool.

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 6 місяців тому

      @@probablysam2744 I was thinking about grenades but then I remembered stasis and strands barely have any grenades compared to the light subclasses. So unless they add like 4 or 5 new grenades it'd be a bit unfair.

    • @thatoneguy2136
      @thatoneguy2136 6 місяців тому

      I’m pretty sure Bungie will expand the arsenal as time goes on. I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to launch with everything available cuz they didn’t want to break the game altogether. They would have to spend so much more time balancing everything.
      Remember that they most likely made all of this in 3 months

  • @dragonslayer647
    @dragonslayer647 6 місяців тому +1

    So sad that i saw no solar grenades... i was gonna make a sunbracers/ fallen sunstart build. Cant do that without sunbracers

    • @CreativeName574
      @CreativeName574 6 місяців тому

      Maybe they will change it to be solar grenades in general

  • @raijinmeister
    @raijinmeister 6 місяців тому +1

    TL;DR: Creating and balancing classes is time-consuming so we will let you Frankestein your way picking stuff to build your class as you want, while we charge you for that and at the same time kill the uniqueness of every subclass in the process.

  • @cee_ves
    @cee_ves 6 місяців тому

    The change to stylish executioner even for void builds is huge. Half the battle for it was just dodging for your melee and trying to get volatile up so you could chain it, especially with how weak the volatile weapon perk was in comparison to voltshot/incandescent. Now you can equip something like voltshot and go invis each time you shoot, activate it, and get a kill

  • @Yuliviee
    @Yuliviee 6 місяців тому +2

    Hope they add more choice later on.🎉

  • @SteelShad0w_
    @SteelShad0w_ 6 місяців тому +11

    Prismatic Titan looks so stupidly fun

    • @rosskasal4166
      @rosskasal4166 6 місяців тому +5

      I cant wait to have triple conscecration with knockout AND have a dash on my class ability. Add on some woven mail from bladefury/fragment and some volatile rounds. Have repulsor brace for overshields. Gonna be eating GOOD

  • @neofly
    @neofly 6 місяців тому +3

    insane Ws all around
    quite honestly D2 needs a roguelike mode where you dive into a pyramid finding prismatic aspects and weapons. It has everything for it!

  • @Mashangi
    @Mashangi 6 місяців тому +1

    Random theory. They are doing an insane power creep because....after Final Shape and the episodes we are going to canonically emerge from the Traveler and arrive to either somewhere else entirely. Or things will be drastically changed. We are going to be de-powered to a degree and lose our arsenal somehow, basically kicking off a Destiny 3. Or they will announce a Destiny 3

  • @Daiyns69
    @Daiyns69 6 місяців тому +4

    Bungie said oh you thought the years before was power creep? THIS is power creep!

  • @psi6807
    @psi6807 6 місяців тому

    As a weird blink enjoyer I'm so happy to see a new subclass with blink as an option, and being able to combine grapple with blink is ideal. I usually sort of ping-pong between Hunter and Warlock but I'm not sure I'll ever switch off Hunter again. Between Storm's Edge, Blink, Grapple, Knife Trick (and hopefully being able to get the Mask of Bakris effect on the new exotic class item) I'll finally have all the teleporting and knife throwing I've always dreamed of.

  • @AetheriumA8
    @AetheriumA8 6 місяців тому

    I kinda hope they give us more transcendent grenade options, i feel like theres more combo’s that could be made

  • @strav8672
    @strav8672 6 місяців тому

    Noticing that the Facet of Balance is the opposite ability energy recovery of the Indomitability origin trait from the BRAVE weapons

  • @snowboundwhale6860
    @snowboundwhale6860 6 місяців тому

    Suddenly Tessellation's property of becoming whatever element you have equipped paired with it's crystalline prism design feels like it was foreshadowing all along.

  • @sun012497
    @sun012497 6 місяців тому

    I know this is going to power-creep the base 3.0 sub-classes but at the same time this gives us THE BEST build crafting possible plus if you want to build into something hyper specific now you can

  • @night_san03
    @night_san03 6 місяців тому

    The builds... the synergy, the numbers Mason. Holy crap I'm gonna have a field day.

  • @lachydragneel
    @lachydragneel 6 місяців тому

    Ok so it seems like solo element will still have its use since it seems prismatic only has bits and bobs of each subclass/ altered versions of the stuff, would be interesting to see if they add more aspects and fragments.

  • @BombStars
    @BombStars 6 місяців тому +1

    I honestly like everything they got coming so far. Just hope a certain portion of the player base doesn’t ruin the fun.

    • @ExpertRam
      @ExpertRam 6 місяців тому +1

      Wdym?

    • @BombStars
      @BombStars 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ExpertRam I’m assuming the more toxic part of the community would try and get this nerfed to hell, making it nowhere as fun as it seems

  • @AC_DriftCaster
    @AC_DriftCaster 6 місяців тому

    Was really hoping I could finally run every Warlock buddy at once, but still hyped for the potential

  • @Farengast
    @Farengast 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm a bit underwhelmed actually (as a warlock main at least). They said they were focusing on underused aspects. The problem is those aspects are underused because they aren't good so if you combine them all into one subclass you're just going to get an underused subclass. Warlocks getting Lightning surge and Weaver's Call? Bad. Maybe Hellion aspect will help pull this thing out of the bin for me.

    • @YeatGaming69
      @YeatGaming69 6 місяців тому +1

      Five words: Bleak watcher, Feed the void

    • @ForTheBoobies
      @ForTheBoobies 6 місяців тому

      @@YeatGaming69​​⁠this. I’m just going to be running song of flame, threadling/vortex grenade, arcane needle/penumbral blast, blink, bleak watcher and feed the void. Just continuous ability spam once the cycle starts. Then once transcendence hits I’ll pop that, continues ability regen, by the time that’s done I’ll have song of flame. Reset the cycle and I’ll barely have to use my gun lmao

    • @worldlinezero4783
      @worldlinezero4783 6 місяців тому +1

      You're just uncreative

    • @YeatGaming69
      @YeatGaming69 6 місяців тому

      @@ForTheBoobies i said the same exact thing to one of my buddies word for word. it’s going to be actually insane. With that one fragment that makes you radiant on powered melee hits, i’ll use the needles and necrotic to spread poison and continue to regen my grenade to charge my melee with the arm mod that gens melee energy on grenade damage. I have the whole loop built out in my head

  • @austin2745
    @austin2745 6 місяців тому +1

    So basically we’re going to be gods awesome

  • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
    @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 6 місяців тому

    I had a feeling these sub classes were going to have a comical amount of options and I was not disappointed.

  • @Xiaolruc
    @Xiaolruc 6 місяців тому

    I'm just hoping I'm able to pull off a combination of Unravel and Scorch so my Tommy's Matchbook won't be the only way I can continually proc Unravel and make Ignitions.

  • @spark-knight0001
    @spark-knight0001 6 місяців тому

    curious to know what else they'll allow us to do in the future, i'd imagine prismatic will be pretty strong, but i feel like the main 5 subclasses will still be viable on their own, sort of the typical, jack of trades master of none thing, ether way, prismatic seems like it's going to be FUN, plus i keep my marksman/nighthawk combo WITH gunpowder gamble, so yeah, i'm gonna have fun for sure!

  • @burningsun6755
    @burningsun6755 6 місяців тому +3

    normal subclass are bugged most of the time ...
    Now imagine this party mix free for all subclass
    the game will be unplayable for month on end

  • @bardboi9052
    @bardboi9052 6 місяців тому

    If I had to guess, we’ll be getting more prismatic stuff (transcendence grenades included) with new episodes

  • @colinwells177
    @colinwells177 6 місяців тому

    I’m an original D1 player and the final shape is giving very taken king vibes and I’m glad this next generation of guardians get to experience that sort of dlc

  • @brandonfeeley514
    @brandonfeeley514 6 місяців тому

    I wonder if we will be able to combine light and dark weapon abilities soon? Like weapons that change from solar to void to arc have strand, and prismatic?

  • @SCSAForce
    @SCSAForce 6 місяців тому

    So that one freeze and ignite fragment is a direct buff to conditional and I’m all for it

  • @ERElement77
    @ERElement77 6 місяців тому

    As for how it isn’t going to power creep everything:
    It will. And I’m so fucking here for it

  • @fizzyoddcod
    @fizzyoddcod 6 місяців тому

    Considering the titans don’t get throwing hammer I won’t be using prismatic as much as base solar because hammer builds make the game easy. Warlocks and hunters however look pretty spicy.

  • @alecnardone3309
    @alecnardone3309 6 місяців тому

    Stylish executioner with incandescent sounds like so much fun

  • @POXudes
    @POXudes 6 місяців тому +1

    Does the exotic class item block off the other exotic armor spot?

  • @cjlsniper
    @cjlsniper 6 місяців тому

    definitely rocking thundercrash controlled demo devour void nades

  • @chrisfunk9843
    @chrisfunk9843 6 місяців тому

    I would like to think the change in leadership has been leading this huge charge for positive changes. Because this is what it looks like when a team tries to overdeliver.

  • @mizranozahara968
    @mizranozahara968 6 місяців тому

    Maybe also just me, I dunno why the grenades are class specific either. The smart design choice would have been to make it to where each grenade was available to everyone so they could add future combinations.

  • @johnwon6986
    @johnwon6986 6 місяців тому

    i don't know about others, but surely prismatic warlocks with freezing turret n feed the void aspects, coldsnap nades, Song of Flame super with solar pet (soul) rift combined with crazy ability regen n damage for you n your allies will definitely be beyond broken OP..☺😉

  • @deadchannelfrom2018
    @deadchannelfrom2018 6 місяців тому

    Phoenix dive is only underutilized if you're not an end-game solarlock player

  • @MagicofMrClean
    @MagicofMrClean 6 місяців тому

    Silk strike with blink… combination blow with threaded specter and winters shroud. Good lord

  • @ixXThriveXxi
    @ixXThriveXxi 6 місяців тому

    I wonder if this is bungies tester for consolidating all subclasses and eventually remove everything else but allowing prismatic to build a full solar build etc then instead of creating all new subclasses they only have to create new fragments, aspects, and abilities. Could lead to more new abilities more often instead of starting from scratch every time

  • @stormshadowoffire
    @stormshadowoffire 6 місяців тому

    This is more limited than we anticipated so I feel it wont be TOO busted tbh. PvP will be hectic for sure but I think it'll still be okay and the normal subclasses still have a place (if you wanna get invis from neutral you can still only do that on void hunter)

  • @garrettviewegh9028
    @garrettviewegh9028 6 місяців тому

    While I am hyped for this, part of me hopes we still get one last new darkness element. Just makes sense to me, there should be three dark subclasses, and three light ones. Though, this has probably been delayed to Echoes. Or, may appear after we beat the campaign. Curious to hear any thoughts on this.

  • @benjaminsterberg548
    @benjaminsterberg548 6 місяців тому

    Finality is gonna get even better with prismatic a gun that does both light and dark dmg and has freeze and ign
    Its gonna be so much fun

  • @joeybisson2684
    @joeybisson2684 6 місяців тому

    I love how they describe prismatic warlock as the summoner... but where are my arc and void soul buddies? I want to summon *everything*

  • @marinawolf
    @marinawolf 6 місяців тому

    Will we still get the artifact? Can you imagine what that looks like and what choices we'll have to make?

  • @adagium__
    @adagium__ 6 місяців тому +1

    INVISIBLE GOLDEN GUN

  • @Ace-ob9yk
    @Ace-ob9yk 6 місяців тому

    Knockout + Shiver Strike + Thrusters will be funny on PvP

  • @awmuse6228
    @awmuse6228 6 місяців тому

    I actually think this will help balance pvp. Overpowered weapons and abilities that few have won't matter when everyone is overpowered using prismatic abilities and new ritual weapons.

  • @giantlizard9158
    @giantlizard9158 6 місяців тому

    This is the equivalent of giving an Olympic runner cocaine "now that you've mastered how to run lets see how fast you can REALLY go"

  • @reecec1379
    @reecec1379 6 місяців тому

    Im a little late, but did you notice in the gameplay for the new stuff that cerberus has a new reticle? (around 5:45)
    CERBERUS IS GETTING AN UPDATE LETS GOOOOOOOOOO