How I Went From 300 to 400 Feet | Road To 400ft Final Part
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- In this video I do a summary of all the key things I learned and put into practise to get my disc golf drive over 400 feet.
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Love when people that have recently touched new breakthroughs and have a lot of those growth notes fresh in their head share stuff like this.
@@OptikDojo yeah I loved content like that too! So very happy I could share my thoughts after I finally had a break through. Especially since some of my points were unique I thought!
@@MattRobertsonDG Hmm. Why do you have to throw it all flat? Why can't you throw it all vertical off its edge and corkscrew it in the air during the throw?.
@@germanslice I mean you can! It just won't go as far!
@@MattRobertsonDG well I was using an ordinary plastic frisbree not the disc golf ones. So the disc golf ones might be different.
@@germanslice yes. Disc golf ones are definitely different. They go a lot further which is fun!
I like how you are taking practical steps towards improving your max distance. A note on the run up example in the video. You essentially came to a complete stop before your x step. I am no professional but I have been playing disc golf since the late 90s and PDGA tourneys since 2007. I agree that a run up is important but not as important as keeping momentum throughout the entire motion. If you only take a couple extra steps before starting your wind up you may see better results. I'm 5ft 8in and 47 years old still throw 400 or just under fairly accurately.
I think its most important to find a disc that you can throw with max flight and glide for whatever arm speed you happen to have. For instance as I get older and am playing / practicing less than I was in my 20's and 30's, I AM NO LONGER TRYING TO BOMB OVERSTABLE MAX SPEED PLASTIC. Controlling less stable lower speed discs correctly will yield much better results with less effort. I throw a roadrunner much further than the champ destroyer i keep in my bag for utility hyzers.
@@chadharrod5246 very good advice here! I think this is exactly why my more aggressive run ups are sometimes slower but sometimes faster! But I do seem to be able to produce higher top speeds with it, I will try to focus on continuing to accelerate into the throw.
I tend to do a lot better with more overstable stuff but I like the idea of trying some flippier stuff and seeing how it works out for me!
Thanks for the kind words and the tips!
Max distance is fun and you gotta have fun when you play DG as well. Yeah ofc precision matters far more if you're in a competition but hitting a massive distance PR is just something special.
@@theoriginalbreadcrumb yeah you're not wrong! Angle control and hitting gaps has always come easy to me so all I care about is distance right now hahah!
So happy to see your progress. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much. More to come soon!
Thx for sharing your journey!
I love your message at the beginning that it is possible if you believe. I am a new disc golfer and struggle to hit 200' consistently. I know it's form, timing, and practice that will get me there. I am going to try some of your training tips and drills during some practice days.
Have you had anyone video tape you throwing out on the practice field? It's important if you have not. I am almost 62 years old and started playing 2 years ago. I could only throw about 150-175 when I started that first season. I can throw 240 consistently now. going to the practice field and working on achieving "Pro" form is the way to go.
@@jbakeindy this is great! And thank you. Yes I agree, it's so hard to believe it's possible at first, the difference between a beginner and someone who's starting to figure it out is just so huge!!
If you're struggling to hit 200 I'd say it's probably more than likely a launch angle it nose angle problem. Once you've figured that out, I'd just work on speed, accuracy can come later in my opinion.
And yes definitely get a video from face on and down the throwing line. I use a selfie stick and stick it in my bag between my discs to video myself
@@StuG-pr9tf this is good advice! I'd say try to copy run up, reach back, pocket and release positions. Then once those look ok, then try to throw some distance lines
@@MattRobertsonDG Maybe he's trying to release the disc instead of letting it rip out of his hand?
@@carystallings6068 yes. This is a good thought. Thats bad for just about everything, speed, spin, nose angle. A very hard thing for beginners to get their head around though
I love how you organized this video with the keys, going to help a lot of people see what's important for them to do in practice!
500ft 360 coming soon? 👀
@@NickKrush.DGandFit shhhh no spoilers 😉 hahaha
@@MattRobertsonDG haha true!
Congratulations on hitting your goal! I've enjoyed your videos, and I've learned some things from you.
I don't think you've maxed out yet. I think you can get to 450, and that would be pretty awesome for 5'4."
Thank you very much! Now that over achieved this I've completely changed my perspective on what's possible so I'm looking forward to what comes next!
I have all the same excuses lol. I must be too short, I didn't start early enough, i need longer levers😂😂😂
Hahahaha welcome to the club!
Hey conversely i started reasonably young, am resonably athletic, and have very long levers. Stuck under 300 for a decade. Finally getting there -- trust me you can get stuck even with all the "right" advantages. IME those things maybe help people go from 500 to 700; getting to 450 is all about form.
Thank you for the tips!
You're super welcome! Thank you for watching
Good solid video 👏
@@bradmcfalls4169 thank you very much!
Great stuff. I'm going to check out some of these drills you mentioned. I used to deadlift quite a bit when I was in my 20's and 30's, I feel like I should mention that if you start moving heavy weight during deadlifts the wear and tear on your lower spine can be pretty bad. There are good alternatives to deadlifting that will be less risky for your lower back and hip mobility down the road. Keep up the good work!
@@dominicelder9950 thanks for the support! I actually used to Deadlift a lot. My Personal Bests were over 200kg (440lb) and i only weighed about 60kg at the time. Im not lifting anywhere near that at the moment but I will always be careful to do what I can to avoid injury, but I always found for me, injury comes when my body is out of shape so I prefer to do them safely rather than hurt my back because im not as strong as I could be.
@@dominicelder9950 I am curious about alternatives as well. Although for me I do feel deadlifts are petty much a key exercise
@@MattRobertsonDG I definitely agree that I get injured way more often when I'm not in shape. If I don't lift at least twice a week I get hurt everytime. I LOVED deadlifting in my 20s and 30s. Now in my mid 40s I'm dealing with spinal disc problems. I don't want to come off as an internet troll or anything.
@@MattRobertsonDG Hip thrusts for glutes, romanian deadlifts for hamstring and back are good alternatives that will put less torque on your lower spine. Bulgarian split squats are also real good for giving you the torture feel of a great heavy deadlift too! I've read that sumo deadlifting is less hard on the lower spine than conventional, but I never lifted sumo so I can't say from experience.
@@dominicelder9950 that's great! Yeah there's definitely a difference between people who just say "oh no you shouldn't do that, you'll be crippled when you're older" whilst at the sometime not working out a day in their lives, and someone giving genuine advice!
Those sound good ill look into it. Most of my deadlifts are with a trap bar anyway as that focuses more on your legs than your back anyway, it's easier to have good technique and harder to cheat with your back
Keep at it man. I just cleared 500' it's been a journey.
My best tip for you is don't load your muscles as much.
Disc isn't heavy, you don't have to try so "hard" as you do "fast"
Think of footwork and speed like a figure skater, or a dancer.
@@msully1990 500 is awesome, congrats!!
Interesting, I've definitely always been more of a muscle it person even in my golf days (when most say not to). Its just what worked best for me cause I'm small but strong.
I did however start feeling like my arm was a lot looser recently and that helped a lot!
Also when I throw on course shots I don't try to muscle it quite so hard to be fair. I will have a play around with this and see what/if it helps!
@@MattRobertsonDG that's the beautiful thing about this sport, do what works for you.
How long till 450? ;)
@@msully1990 yes you are not wrong! But I think you're absolutely right. I think there's just a fine balance between using your muscles and staying loose if that makes sense?
Hahah. Honestly I think not that long. I hit 64mph on TechDisc yesterday which would be really close to 450 on a good hit
awesome video! i am pumped to keep working on my journey! how many days a week were you training?
@@acfrisbee hey Andrew. Awesome to have you here my man!
I'm doing form work about twice a week for about an hour to an hour and a half.
Velo (Velocity) days where I do my overload and underload training, and throw 20 max effort throws in a net 3 times a week (about 30minute sessions).
Then I throw distance lines when the body feels good and the speeds are good, never more than once a week.
On top of that I lift in the gym about twice a week. But I have a full time job so fitting it in is tough. I aim to do about 12 hours a week, normally spread over about 3 or 4 days depending on weather and timing!
Love your videos. Can't wait for more!
6:31 what type of work did you do at gym to fix the power pocket?
@@bytetacos I did isometric exercises from a Nick Krush video for wrist, elbow and shoulder strength. Here's the link ua-cam.com/video/j8bo6-gdut0/v-deo.htmlsi=qqDULKHCsr8iaBpN
Nice video. I am also on the short side at 5’8”. Would you care to show how you grip your drivers? Thanks!
@@taddfouch6637 thank you very much!
As far as I know I do just a regular power grip. I have very small hands but they're pretty meaty and for some reason I've never really had trouble with wide rim drivers, probably because I threw them from the start.
Sorry that's probably not very helpful but if you want more detail send me a dm on Instagram and I can send you a photo @roadtoscratch_discgolf
@@MattRobertsonDG Are all 4 fingers wrapped around the rim? Or is your index finger off?
@@taddfouch6637 ah yes. All 4
I would love the video you mentioned on wrist positions. My body can't do it yet😢
Sorry I put it in the video but some people can't see it for some reason. Here you go ua-cam.com/video/j8bo6-gdut0/v-deo.htmlsi=qqDULKHCsr8iaBpN
@@MattRobertsonDG thanks so much!!
@@MattRobertsonDG can you tell me your results to these drills and how long it took to notice some kind of difference or benefit from doing these?
@@OneFocusPhotos absolutely. I went from not physically being able to keep the disc flat in the pocket to being able to do it without even trying in about 2 weeks having done 3 sessions a week.
If you want me to be technical my wrist wasn't strong enough to maintain the Ulnar deviation you need to keep the disc flat and the exercises quickly strengthened those tendons
@@MattRobertsonDG thanks! What angle did your body put it on when it wouldn't let you do it flat? I have a feeling I'm having the same issue!
Smooth is far. Its all in the snap and angle of release. Never try to murder it.... 👌🎉 tournament disc golf is not about throwing far also its about accuracy. 👍
Tournament disc golf is about accuracy I agree. But getting your speed up is absolutely about trying to murder it! Then you have to find a balance of what is fast. In order to get more energy out you have to put more energy in