I gained 100 feet in ONE day | Episode 2 | Advanced Disc Golf Tips
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This added 100 ft to my throw in 2 attempts. I overthrew EVERYTHING. My arm doesn't hurt anymore...
Thanks man.
This might be the best explanation of backhand timing on UA-cam. Keep it up man, so many people struggle to understand this concept.
I appreciate the support. Also, I’m glad I’m able to make some sense out of this. My next video should be a better explanation of the Backhand in general. Thanks again!!
I totally agree, only criticism I have is making new terms that can be misinterpreted, like the “equals sign” stuff. Best breakdown I’ve heard or seen.
@@Siiafu Yes terminology is frustrating and It's only going to be a continued problem as I come up with new terminology. I had no idea how careful with words I needed to be. I'm sure i'll keep making mistakes but as long as I make some sense I'll be happy. I appreciate the feedback!
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 love the series. I’d expect a massive influx of views if I were you
@@Siiafu It's extremely overwhelming right now to be honest. I never thought this would catch on. Hopefully I can keep improving the content.
Wow. Such an undertated video. I speak from recent experience in saying this is true. Just went from 300 to 415ft in 1 day just a few weeks ago after I figured out hownto keep my arm lose. All my throws felt powerful but I was only getting just over 300 ft.... them boom, I tried it once to see and I threw 400. Tried again and got a 403. Disc after disc over 400ft... it was like a light bulb had turned on. Immediate distance.
"Pull like you're starting a lawn mower" , "rip the disc", "explode out of the power pocket", "pulling in a straight line will increase power"....we have all heard these on the course and on youtube, even from some pros. While these have truths in them, they are rarely taken as they should be and end up hurting new players. But you managed to debunk some of these myths.. Keep up these videos. Break those disc golf myths man. Save people time, injury, and frustration. Great video dude, great job.
Thanks! I’m so glad that you’ve figured it out. This is the best comment I could have got. Just started the channel yesterday. I just hope I can explain this information over the 10 videos (season one basically) that I’ve uploaded. I want people to experience a breakthrough with their distance. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
loosey goosey baby...loosey goosey
I've been throwing 300 ft for a while now, been playing about a year. I don't practice a lot, and I'm ok with that - it's for fun. But after watching this and changing my mental model of the throw, I went and played a casual round and threw a 413 ft drive. The concept of a loose arm and treating it like a whip is MONEY ! Hats-off for figuring that out.
413 is a bomb! great job. Although this video paints a very small picture of what needs to happen to slingshot at full potential, but it certainly is a good start. As you add the left arm/back/legs you will start whipping it much further. Thank you for using the info and I’m thrilled it helped.
You just made more sense out of it all than any single pro ever has.
I appreciate the language you’re using here. So many people when trying to teach use the common buzz words (pull, reach back, explode, rotate etc.) but they aren’t describing how it actually feels to execute it so their words have no meaning and it doesn’t translate well to the learner.
Facts. As someone who LOVES teaching the sport to newbies, that is seriously their number 1 complaint most of the time. The jargon has gotten a bit inaccessible...
I’m the prototypical stocky white boy with no hips. I’ve been doing the “starting the lawnmower” pull through and trying to figure out how to engage my hips. This makes so much sense. It’s not about how many times you try it nor how many times someone explains it. Sometimes it just takes 1 really good explanation to click. This makes soooo much sense!
You DONT engage the hips with your hips. You do it with legs (video yet to come but it’s on the way) and your back/abs/left arm. Your hips are merely a swivel for power. The video doesn’t really tell the whole story until you watch all the videos. Also, all the videos still makes up a small percentage of what I have to share. It will take time for me to get all this on UA-cam with decent explanations. Keep grinding! I appreciate the support Alex!
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 Cool stuff, you and seabass have really helped me out
What does your race have to do with anything?
To paint a picture, obviously. Why do you feel like he shouldn't?
@@hydrahead836
First rule to not have a noodle arm: "Have a noodle arm"
'Splain us>
Yes! We all talk about our noodle arms. How fantastic is that! We're halfway there!
@@johnk6847 so you be noodleing it. I like it.
Dude! Update! I haven't played disc golf on a course in a month. First throw trying the "noodle arm" and I ACED. LET'S GOO!!! Your video has made my form feel better than it's ever felt. Smooth, controlled and absolutely smashing shots. Can't thank you enough
Holy cow! I’m a senior so I lack the arm strength to pull. And the whip was always emphasized on the snap of the wrist. I’m out the door to give this a go. Makes so much sense!
Love it. People need to quit telling beginners to reach back and pull through. Makes no sense
You did not gain 100 feet in one day. No one here did. Unless you went from throwing 100 to 200 ft. Are there any videos of this guy throwing far? Fishy how there are zero negative comments. I’ve seen technique vids that contradict some of the things this dude says. Vids from people who actually show themselves throwing far. Lot of snake oil salesmen teaching throwing technique videos. This smells fishy to me. I’m sure he’ll delete this comment.
My jaw is on the floor. I am so glad this video came up on my recommended page! This makes so much sense
Why the pros seem so incapable of explaining this simple concept is beyond me. I've probably watched every instructional video of the last 10 years and not one of them ever explicitly breaks it down like this.
Your comment has made my day. Thank you for the support!
I think I heard all of this somewhere before... :)
We should chat form sometime!
I think the worst advice I took was starting the lawn mower idea. I understand the hand has to be the tip of the whip, and that the hips drive it, but my arm always wants to take control and start the lawn mower. Maybe I'll try setting the disc on a wall and try to completely relax the arm, not even keep it level with my deltoid, and see if I can noodle the arm and drive it. Good video, thanks.
5:32 This drill is so money. This is the best explanation I've seen when it come building the intuition of hip drive and arm lag. I'm going to recommend this video as often as I can.
Thank you so much. I’ll keep trying to improve the content.
Agreed. Absolutely golden.
Engaging the bigger muscles
I think it’s important to mention it took me hundreds of hours to get to the day I gained a 100 feet. There are no quick fixes. This is just the start of building better habits. In my opinion. Although some immediate distance is also the goal.
Hey I got a question. How do I keep my torso/upper arm 90° throughout whitout "hugging myself" or should I call it having my upper arm collapse into my chest. Every time I watch myself, I see that I collapse if I try to be loose.
@@HuckingPlastic I’ll cover that very soon. Stay tuned
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 I’m wondering about this as well. Thanks for sharing your journey man. So helpful!
No one’s gonna say anything about the dog just vanishing into thin air?
You brought a tear to my eye bro!! You have unleashed the secret that has been hidden for years, lol. Great coaching 👊🥏
I like to ask new players to drop their discs, stick their off hand in their pant pocket, and then just turn their upper body around, letting the throwing arm hang relaxed and heavy, to help them feel the acceleration the rest of the body puts on it, and hopefully wake them up to how little the arm really needs involving.
ive been applying your teachings for the past two days and i definitely had that ah ha! moment multiple times where all my body motion is finally get through into my arm. sorry this is long but this teaching of the backhand form is absolutely spot on and i think mislead or down right taught wrong by so many people. every disc golfer needs this. please everyone stop teaching the "pull"! i feel like ive been lied to for my 2 years of disc golfing. again thank you so much for really wanting to explain and share your knowledge i can tell you have put in a lot of effort to articulate.
Don't be sorry for speaking your piece, I feel almost the same way. I never considered watching videos 5 years ago when I started. How I wish I had... made for a rough time to unlearn many bad habits and terrible form.
Dude!! Thank you!! I've been playing 32 years(im 51). I've got lots of physical issues, including a broken throwing shoulder(major cartilage damage). I watched this video last night, and incorporated it into my game, today. Went from 200ft to 250 consistently. And my shoulder doesn't hurt!!! My shoulder always hurts after a round. Have a sub and and upvote.
Great video. I've recently been pondering how the pros can all easily throw over 400' without much apparent effort. Speed guns show their release speed is well over 70mph. So the question is how do you get your hand to be moving that fast at the moment you release the disc? And it shouldn't be super hard, but rather a fluid motion. I think a whip or slingshot is a good analogy because the idea is that the motion starts out slow but is accelerating the whole time until the point of release. Tristan Tanner is the poster child for a slow X-step that accelerates smoothly to the point of release. If you focus on "pulling", chances are your hand is moving the fastest as it approaches the pocket but then actually slows down after that point when instead it should be speeding up like the tip of a whip. When I look at guys like Simon when he's throwing at his 70% effort level I realize that trying to throw harder isn't the answer. One of my mantras is "let the disc do the work"-- try to give it lots of spin and snap rather than trying to throw it "hard", and what do you know, it goes farther!. Danny Lindahl's "slow is smooth and smooth is fast" isn't quite right. I think it really is more like, "accelerate smoothly and fluidly like a whip, and your release point will have maximum speed".
Oh man..... Throwing for my 13th year now and what a week! Got my first ace finally and was so excited I couldn't sleep. Ended up finding this tutorial and hit the field the next day. Finally broke the 400' barrier with a 410' drive! Still got some work to do to clean up my transfer but what a week! Thanks for the form help!
FANTASTIC content. Looking forward to watching all your videos. You have a gift for explaining form and this is much needed in the disc golf community.
Best damn explanation ever you sir are a hero
I subbed the instant you talked about your eureka moment. Great content so far. Looking forward to seeing more about what you've been able to learn.
I appreciate the support Jake! Although I can’t throw as good as the pros, their technique is no longer a mystery to me...but...teaching it is a mystery I have yet to solve. Very difficult to explain. I’ll keep trying. Feedback is always needed for my improvement. We all need to learn how to slingshot. The game is totally different once you do. Keep grinding and hopefully I help in some way in your backhand journey.
thank u ... u make sense, u r great at KISS ( keep it simple stupid) TECHNIQUE, it works for me
Excited to try this out in the field more. I am well aware that I am strong-arming my disc. I can feel it and I can see it in recordings. But I can't figure out how to stop! When trying to do the drive procedures in a split second, my body just defaults to it and I am struggling to break the habit.
Absolutely fantastic video!
I had the problem where I would reach back thinking my shoulders came along with it. Nope! I filmed myself and I basically had no power with my first technique. I kept questioning, why the heck was I only throwing 300 max? Then I fixed my shoulder issue and that gave me an extra 75 ft. Then I figured out my grip wasn't the power grip and I broke the 400 ft threshold.
Thanks to you I broke 450 with this, along with pushing your left shoulder for the RHBH throw. It really is about technique. I mean Eagle is a scrawny guy but he can throw it 700 ft. That tells me its not about strength either.
So thank you again!
Do you use a loose grip along with the loose arm, or do you grip the disc hard? It seems like a hard grip would tense up some muscles and go against your idea here.
Good question.
Best channel by far and I love that you don’t try to be funny and have other clips of stupid shit interrupting your tutorials.
Okey this is what i have been trying out, switching between this vs pulling the elbow vs pushing in a door with the shoulder type move. Good to confirm this is correct! My next question is shorter throws like 60-150 feet. Should you always do the same move just less powerfull, or do you change the entiere throwing style?🤔
Thank you for your videos. This one made a ton of sense and explains why my shoulder has been hurting. Can't wait to practice this
Understanding the difference between dynamic and static stretching is HUGE! I played two sports in college and the same principles of stretching apply to this video. Knowing how to stay loose the right way is a game-changer!
I use the same principles when talking about the Allen Iverson crossover. Absolutely great point. Thanks for this comment!
this is the secret .. how do i grip the disc tight and stay noodle armed and does disc rip from hand or you release it?
I started golfing 9 years ago at 57 years old and to this point, at 66- I’d come to accept that 275’ was as far a consistent shot I could muster. I happened upon this video and got a little excited and I went out and tried to apply as much as I could…and Holy Cow!! My drives are regularly 300’ to 325’!!!! I’ve always thought my arm was too week to throw anything faster than a 9 speed, but now I am excited to attempt faster discs. THANK YOU!THANK YOU!
a well explained video, and something i recently discovered myself. I like the way you break it down. You sir, have earned another sub!
Described in a lot of other sports (tennis, ball golf etc) as a kinetic chain.
I wish you lived in Fort Worth so that we could play together.
This video instantly made me a subscriber. Great information dude
This is awesome advice man, super cool to see your journey and thanks for sharing it!! Keep it up!!
Omg was just thinking this the other day!!! I couldn't figure out why sometimes when I hit the field I'm throwing 270-315 max. Other times I go out and every disk is flirting with 380! I had an aha moment watching Ricky Wysocki throw. I could see his body pulling his arm..no arm muscles involved until he hit the power pocket. Now I've gotta train my arm out of bad form and try to stay relaxed. Anyways I'm super pumped to see you break it down! Liked and subscribed!
Much appreciated John!
2 Min in and i just got the biggest AHA moment. 💥
As someone who usually tops out at about 250-270 feet, and have been playing for about 16 years now, if this is finally the video that makes everything click, I'll climb to the highest mountain and scream my praises for you. Seriously though, I've watch I dunno.....I've lost track......probably hundreds of videos on YT on how to increase distance, proper form, selecting the right discs, etc. Some videos never really click with me mentally, I'll watch it and nothing really seems revolutionary to me. Sometimes I'll watch a video and it'll immediately make me wanna grab my disc bag and head to the nearest course, convinced that what I just saw would finally solve all my problems, only to still find myself still stuck throwing under 300 feet.
After watching your video, the first thing that caught my attention was when you were talking about how it's impossible to swing your arm quickly if you keep it firm and locked. I've always felt like that's one thing I have a huge issue with.......my arm always feels tensed up when I throw. I've always had issues with gripping things too tightly, but in my mind I always thought I was supposed to keep a pretty firm grip on the disc all the way up to the release, so I've never really thought about changing this aspect.
I definitely don't feel like my arm is loose like a noodle when I'm throwing.....I feel like I have to keep my arm perfectly straight, at least until I draw my arm back. So yeah, that very well could be at the root of my problem, my arm being relatively rigid and tense instead of keeping it loose and trying to whip it. I watch some of these guys throw and it blows my mind how smooth and effortless their deliveries are and they get massive distance.
I've always excelled at throwing when it comes to anything from a baseball to a football, even a bowling ball. I've always been able to throw balls far and with velocity, and with disc golf I've NEVER been able to do either! It's always frustrated me and I watch all these videos, and I've put in the time, put in the practice, and I don't throw any farther than when I first started playing almost 2 decades ago. The problem isn't that I haven't put forth the practice and effort......its that I haven't been using proper techniques when practicing so instead I've just been drilling in bad habits for a long time.
I almost wish I had a reset button and I could forget all my experiences throwing disc golf and wipe the slate clean, and then watch this video as my introduction to the sport instead of trying to unlearn all my bad habits and techniques. I'm going to try my best to throw in the next day or 2, and I will 100% focus on trying to keep my arm loose. I have a feeling it'll be easier said than done. Maybe I can take a muscle relaxer lol
Thanks for the first tip! Went from 320 to 380 feet today
That's wild! Congrats!
So your main focus is on the hip drive? I'm a beginner too stuck at that 300 foot mark. It's so frustrating to people just be able to launch drives so effortlessly.
Getting distance over 300 is all about your timing and speed. Distance looks effortless as your timing improves because thats where the speed is coming from not trying to run quickly into your throw or trying to muscle it out there. Next time you go throw, slow everything down and focus on being balanced in your follow through, pick a pro and try to end your throw in their same position to get used to the feeling.
Just watched this and did one hour of practice. Went from averaging 400 to now 435! Thank you!
In my mind I did 1 minute of practice and went from throwing 515 to 745 almost everytime. Thank you!
I was able to add another 50-75 ft on top of the 100 I gained from this video. I use my non throwing hand and hook just one finger under the back of the disc very loosely. As I'm moving my throwing arm forward I use a little resistance with the hooked finger by pulling slightly backward. When the force of your throwing arm becomes greater than the resisting arm it will naturally break free (dont try to let go with the back hand, it will break free on it's own if your holding it right). That exact moment of breaking the rear grip will add more force to your drive and push the disc further. Works for me everytime
About to get a net and practice this through the winter you’re the best! This explanation is so well said!
Lost 50 feet.
You didn't hold your mouth right
Me too
@@toxsyctv5847 this might help you don’t take this as me bashing you but as a tip. you aren’t doing it right every thing that you throw your hips come through before your arm if you’re doing it correct. Your back leg should be pushing forward then hips and core come around then arm comes through last same with a jump your hips come through then knees extend then ankles it’s one,two,three. I’m new to disc golf but from the other videos this guy has I’ve watched where he breaks down the form it’s very similar to throwing anything ofc it’s different bc it’s a disc but try coiling back like he talks about then when you throw think of your arm as a whip you wanna snap it at the end with a loose wrist. Notice when he starts opening up his hips his arm stays in the same spot just tucks in to roughly a 90degree angle which is a forced reaction of his hips and core coming through while the arm is back then from there all there is left is for your arm to finishing coming through and to follow through after the release. Hope this helps like I said I’m new to this sport but have been throwing all types of different types of things for the last 15 years straight on a pretty high level. Throw a baseball about 375ft can throw a football about 60-65 yards on a good day. I think they all have the same basic mechanics just slightly different based on the object you’re throwing.
Love your vids. Thanks for posting. Practicing now. Will report back later
This is great stuff. I'm convinced that when many pros complete their reach back, their wrist is up with the disc tilted up, then they relax their arm completely when they rip and their wrist actually falls naturally in that time to flat as they sling.
I've always found it to be a catch 22 to keep your arm loosey goosey, while also trying to grip the disc. The tight grip makes my forearm and wrist super tight. Any ideas for that?
If you’re truly loose and spend time in that state...you will eventually be able to activate any muscle you want. There’s levels to this for sure. This video is a very simple version of later videos. I can grip firm while keeping wrist and arm completely loose. Experimentation and consistency is key. It takes time and a lot of hard work. Gain control of your athleticism through loose/ relaxed movements. Those loose movements will develop into explosive movements. A flexed muscles is a slow muscle. Be water.
I've heard some pros say they don't really grip the disc until quite late in the throwing motion. My furthest drives have definitely been doing this. Super loose grip, then last second gripping harder to the disc tighter so it doesn't early release. However I am not sure it is the best way to do it because while I get more distance, I feel like I lose some accuracy and confidence in my aim. I think doing it this way is probably good if you have enough practice with it so the timing is just automatic, but there might be a better way I haven't found yet. I doubt every pro does it this way.
@@758richy I've played ball golf for a number of years (avid disc golfer now!), and this is entirely true during the golf swing as well. I don't really grip the golf club until I release it, which is about halfway through the downswing, and it really helps you build up the lag until that point and that pop it out all the way through impact. When I learned to do that my 7 iron carry distance increased from 150 yds to 180 yds. It's not really a conscious thing I do though, it just sort of happens as my body tries to keep hold of the club. I think actively keeping everything loose like he says and just practicing until your body adjusts to being able to firmly grip it late enough that it doesn't interfere with the looseness. It's pretty crazy how good muscle memory is at doing these things subconsciously.
@@kylerichardson7536 Trying to keep loose while gripping the disc hard just doesn't work. It is certainly another bit of timing to learn but as you say, once it's muscle memory it's not really something that needs to be thought about. Another thing that helps with this is "locking" the disc in place above your left foot (if you're right handed) and walking past your disc then dragging it forward. The "reach back" shouldn't really involve actually pushing the disc back behind you so much as it is just in place and then gets to a point where the only place it can go is forward because your body and momentum is past it already. This helps with grip timing imo because it helps it automatically happen. Like if you pull on a stationary object, you don't grip it as hard as you can as soon as you touch it. You get your hand in position and the grip harder as you try to pull it.
look at eagle when he is lining up a shot, he sort of loosely grabs the disc a couple of times, which can help with finding your grip but as softly as possible. It has sort of worked for me :)
I always find it hard to keep my arm loose while griping the disc firmly
Takes practice to activate your hand muscles while keeping the arm loose. It gets much easier through time.
This is a great explanation and really helped me. I switched from club golf to disc golf about a year ago. There are so many similarities in the 2 golf games. I am a 5 handicap in club golf. To get any distance in golf, you have to stay relaxed and let the big muscles do the work (legs, abs, etc.). This creates a lag in the golf club head which results in a whip action that greatly increases the club head speed. What he is explaining is actually the same thing. Using this method, you create arm lag and a whipping action which greatly increases release speed. Thanks so much for this video!!!
I increased my best throw of 269 ft with my Valkyrie to 370 on my first attempt after watching this video. I was still in pain from throwing incorrectly a few days ago, so I think 400 isn’t too much to expect when healthy. Thanks for the tips!
That fence could benefit from a good coat of water sealing stain 👍🏼
Lol. I don’t live there anymore
dude! around the 1:40 mark, your dog warped behind you! magic dog
Magic dog!!!
Great video, man. I figured this out myself a few months ago and I'm still surprised at how people use the term "noodle arm" in a derogatory sense. I think you're spot on describing how your arm should in fact feel like a dead weight noodle arm.
And of course…. None of this matters when you 3 putt 😅
😂
Reciprocating Dingle Arm. The "power pocket or sling shot pocket" angle or position will vary by player and speed which is why I just say the disc comes inward or narrow to your center then redirected back out wide away from center. The faster you turn, the more the shoulder angle collapses, but you are resisting the collapse to create a bounce or sling effect. But many players try to spin too fast and collapse the shoulder joint completely with the upper arm hugging the chest and can't redirect the disc from their center and then has to go around it/rounding.
We need to get on a zoom call and talk form. I think it could be fun and productive.
I think a lot of people dont understand how loose the arm actually is and the concept of it lagging behind the hips. I know I didnt get it for a long time.
@@harrisc2093 It took me hundreds of hours throwing and studying film. So much frustration to get to the other side of this mystery. New goal is to teach it correctly...and it’s definitely a new mystery to solve. It’s very motivating to get comments like yours. Thanks again.
I find a coating of prefamulated amulite greatly reduces the sinusoidal backlash.
@@kungfumachinist The Reciprocating Dingle Arm has reached a high level of development and can be deployed in conjuction with the Turbo Encabulator.
This is excellent! And shows how a 10 year-old kid with true noodle arms can outthrow the 250lb bodybuilder with giant arms. Your arm IS a whip, let it happen. Core strength is key, the faster you rotate your hips the faster your noodle arm whips the disc. My and my noodle arm are going to go throw some discs now.
it's genuinely amazing to me how much hitting in baseball translates directly to driving in disc golf.
💯 my best student is a baseball player
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 Makes complete sense. That's why McBeth picked it up so naturally too I'm sure. I have been contemplating that I need to do this myself with my throwing arm because it just naturally makes sense to me with the rest of the motion. You definitely made it click in the first 30 seconds...happy hucking my friend!
silent fart at 4:14
I really appreciate the common sense and trial and error approach to all of these videos you put out. I'm looking forward to trying to put these points into action. Keep up the great work man!
Great video! Would you say the same concept applies to the forehand too - loose arm is needed and create the whip?
I have a weak forehand and probably awful form. I max out at 300 and it hurts. There is a great forehand player who is basically a pro in my area who may be able to come on the channel at some point. If I had to guess I would image the loose arm would translate well but I am not sure.
From everything that’s been explained on UA-cam, forehand is a totally different animal. Scott Stokely preaches it, that proper backhand whip automatically creates the spin on the disc, but you have to use your wrist to put spin on a forehand. I’m no pro, but I think the arm is more engaged on a forehand, in conjunction with the abdomen. I do feel like my forehand’s go further though, when my arm and wrist lag behind my hips a bit, then my wrist flicks right as my arm catches up to my hips.
@@JimWhitakerMusic absolutely agree with the arm being more involved. Forehand just hurts my elbow and arm. I’m sure I’m doing it wrong but it just feels terrible when I go full power.
A rather impressive amateur biomechanical analysis.
Understands his body and has a real world grasp of physics and is able to translate it into his vocabulary.
Very good, comes to similar conclusions to some pro videos.
Don't underestimate the ability to explain something so others can understand. You have to understand something completely inorder to distill it down into simple vocabulary for others.
After watching, I tried this slingshot thing the next chance I got. And man does it ever work! I feel likeI finally found that “thing” that I’d been looking for for a while now. Now I finally know what I need to work on (looser arm, better stride/plant, using my abs more). I had more control of my 12 and 13 speed drivers! I was really pushing my 9s. But where I noticed it most was my 7s. Ideally, 7 speeds should convincingly outfly your mids, not be glorified mids (as was my case). Thanks Slingshot guy! You just unlocked my bag!
I dig this tutorial...very well explained. Thanks!!
Nailed this. Sent this to all my AM buddies! Best I’ve seen for sure
Really helpful tips. I was throwing almost entirely with my arm and couldn't get over 300ft.
Just a note. Use ABS HIPS and Shoulder blades. I've realized if I think about touching my shoulder blades my firm becomes better.
Great advice. I’m going to work on this. Thanks
Just had a massive aha 1min in😂😂😂 twisting shoulders 180° is quicker because of smaler diameter, right?
I'm having trouble holding a firm powergrip and keeping the rest of my arm loose...any tips...anyone?
This makes so much sense. I’m going out on the field tomorrow to practice this and hopefully see the improvements.
One thing I wanted to know is that once you are tucked into the Slingshot Pocket, is it then time to manually swing your disc arm out or does your arm naturally keep noodling out from the rotation?
Also I think one of the main reasons that us beginners/intermediate players have only just started to understand this Noodle Arm/Passive Arm method is that we were always taught to Pull a lawnmower ripcord or Bash down a door with our elbow and to me I visualize Pulling my disc arm across my body with brute force to achieve those things.
Thanks
5:35 "You are gonna use your abs..." I watched this video and slowly went through the motions in my living room before heading out for some field work and to play 18 yesterday. When I woke up this morning, I couldn't roll out of bed because my abs were so sore from working on including what I learned. Maybe that means that I'm doing it right. Thanks for the videos. I'm only a couple months into playing disc golf, but you have definitely helped me refine my form.
Does this form also apply to fairway drives and upshots? I can see how this creates max distance but I'm wondering if the slingshot/noodle arm form sacrifices accuracy on shorter shots? Or once I'm close enough (let's say 150-200 feet) should I still be looking to slingshot or just use my arm for greater accuracy?
For sure an excellent explanation that I've needed. It's clear the big drives don't need big muscles as many of the pros look nothing like body builders. With great power comes great responsibility though, and so the work on accuracy begins. Thanks
I had to relearn how to throw a disc after having part of my pelvis and 6 muscles in my hip and leg taken out and a quad flipped up into my hip because of cancer. Docs said I'd never walk again because of the surgery so I left their rehab program and started playing disc golf all the time. Now they call me the gold standard for surgical recovery and have me do workouts and flexibility tests every time I go in to research lol. Anyways, I love videos like this because I lost SOOO much distance in my drives and finding things I can do with my upper body to add distance is about all I can do. I've gotten back up to about a 250 ft drive now. Hopefully this will help me get back over 325 again! Great explanation btw
Funny…. I’m the opposite… did it this way for years, stuck at 300. Watched Dan Beto…. 400 almost instantly lol
Trying this technique is robbing me of the confidence I had built up. I am not good at throwing far. I am throwing at 110 feet for a good throw. This technique worked once then never again for me.
I think you mentioned some very helpful tips that I'm excited to try and incorporate tonight after work. Thank you for sharing.
I tried this and I think it worked? I was getting at least an extra 25’ per throw and I even managed a 350’ from a standstill. I was making out at 225’ and was hitting 250-275’ pretty much the whole round. Had a few 300’ throws too. I’m assuming that since my hips and lower body are sore and my shoulder isn’t that I’m doing this somewhat correctly?
And yet when I watch slow-mo's of professionals throwing for distance, I see every muscle of their forearms flexing like mad. How do you reconcile this?
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If I wrote this right, you'll understand me and there is all that I can say about how good is your video and explanation on the subject.
I want to say mind blowing but I have several year of experience, heard and saw stuff about the wipping and loose rist BUT I have an issues with the grip, I did not had a good grip while I was trying to be loose (you can snatch my disc of my hand ) once you use any muscles for gripping the disc the loose rist is lost. I will much appreciated if you can show us anything on that matter.
You helped me to see what to look for in my form, better to know what is my goal in my practices, thank you for passing forward your knowledge and experience. 👌🏾
I stopped pulling from the reachback 8 months ago and got more distance by letting the hips get me into the pocket and then focused on the towel drill to create acceleration and started throwing 350 feet at will on the course and sometimes 400+ and occasionally 450+ with a big run up. But in general the bigger my run up the worse my throw and I know that something is fundamentally wrong with my sequencing and I'm capable of throwing 500+. In this video you're describing the unlearning of much of what got me where I am, and I am so ready and excited!!
By pulling you are not engaging your arm, it is all in the upper back and shoulders. You can still keep your arm like a nudle by engaging the shoulders, no muscles in your arm is keeping it 90 degrees out from your body, it is the back(look at any back exercise, with similar motion). You can't get to the powerpocket by not engaging your shoulders and upper back. If you are all relaxed in your shoulders your upper arm wouldn't get to 90 degrees out from your body, it would just lag behind flat against your chest. So i think its a bit false to state that it is all about lower body and no pulling. Nowdays people are also talking about deep pocket, like how ganon buhr throws for example. And there is no way to get to deep pocket without pulling a little with your shoulders and back.
The first many years I played disc golf I would hurt my shoulder almost ever time I played. Plus, my drives sucked.
It was so bad , I stopped trying to use my full power. I have improved, but I no where near satisfied.
This seems like technique I need to learn.
These videos speak to my game. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for the Support! I'll keep trying to improve the content.
Unpopular opinion… a rotational mechanics baseball swing and a disc golf X-step throw are the same exact thing from the time the front foot touches, to heel drop, to point of contact/release. The lead arm should do the exact same thing, and so should the rest of the body
Great video! How do you actually hold the disc while being in the noodle position? Do you keep your arm/hand in the exact position your showing, but with a disc?
Up until this video, I've always wondered why forehand shots are considered the weaker or less desired throw since for me I can throw both about the same distance and typically get more accuracy with a forehand. This video makes that clear since it doesn't seem like you would get the same slingshot momentum from a forehand. I also find it interesting that so many people commenting are maxing out around 300 ft before adopting this technique because that's pretty much the average max distance I've been stuck at, regardless if I'm throwing a mid or distance driver.
If you watch Lizotte's "Form Critique and Distance Tips", his back foot is clearly off the ground well before his hips rotate which kind of debunks the entire 'drive with the back leg' theory. Maybe thinking about driving the hips with the back leg encourages people to rotate the hips, but getting the rotation is the important part rather than the back leg drive. Thoughts?
Got my subscription from this video. Wow. Been struggling with trying to figure this out for years.
I just tried this is my living room at 5am. Dude, I know this will work. I am thinking of documenting the whole thing with my hunting cams. I know it will be interesting at least. Let me know if you if you want me to update. Thanks for sharing this bro.
Wicked video man ! You broke that down perfectly I thought. I allways say if you can explain something in the easiest terms possible and have it make sense to everyone then your good at teaching 👌. I'm definitely going to think of this tonight when I chuck a round.
It's all in the hips baby! Great video. If you use your hips your arm naturally comes up and whips at a 90 degree angle it's a great dril to show people.