The snap is just the fingers slapping the palm, so it makes sense it would be louder on a fan grip. Louder snap doesn't necessarily mean more distance. With a power grip, it's even more important to, 'pour the coffee' with your wrist to get the disc on a level plane.
i 100% agree with ya, the "BERG" is awesome and i used to bag it but... like you said it's what i'd call a "crutch" and prevents you from learning touch and finess. 🤷♂
Here are my thoughts on the form asked at 8:09 You're pulling the disc from a high point in your reach back and throwing it towards the ground, but with the nose up, so it flies. That's what's creating the air bounce in your throw (I'm sure you've been told this countless times, sorry). The throw should start with the disc on the same line it will leave your hand on. It looks like you need to rework the mechanical movement you're doing with your arm. Here's something to try: rest your arm on a countertop or something flat, in the throwing position, with your elbow bent at 90 degrees and your palm side down. Do your reach back and pull-through motions, but keep your forearm in line with the edge of the surface your arm is on/being held over. the forearm arm should basically be moving in a straight, level line during the throw, or rather the disc should be. I hope this helps. Otherwise, the timing seemed pretty solid, I thought!
Crazy timing. I just bought a bergx because my friend has been telling me to get one for a while now and it’s his favorite approach disc. Have to test a little more but it looks like it’s making my bag and possibly taking the P3X out of the bag.
Berg is fun. I actually used to putt with them, but you're right its a bandaid disc as a thrower. I'm lucky enough to have a berg that is beat to heck that just holds a line though so its got to be in the bag as a bail out. It's great as a utility disc however due to the "beef" on the rim I think it can force its way through foliage a lot better than some other discs, that combined with the lack of glide means you can kinda yam on it up and over something pretty confident it'll get through the leaves but even though you threw it hard its not gonna go flying 100ft past where you were hoping your pitch out was gonna go.
I have 2 berg x 1 1 1 2 its pretty much my approach disc for most scenarios that are within 150ft. Saved a ridiculous amount of shots. Just had 2 normal bergs come in the mail. Looking forward to my next rounds.
6:44 First time I realised Nate is not your birth name lol😅. It seems nobody in America is called by their full name, but here in Sweden nicknames are not that common.
I picked up an Emerson Keith Opto-X explorer. I just played a tournament at Idlewild and this was my workhorse fairway driver. Completely straight for 330' or so and a smooth finish for the last 30'. Even in a headwind, I am not seeing any difference in flight. You have more arm than I do but I'm guessing it would be similar. The athena goes far, I just had more success in different winds with the Opto'X explorer holding it's line.
Nate! The only way you’re gonna throw more nose down is to reach back lower/change your reach back angle so the disc is below the elbow! It’ll feel weird at first but then will feel great, just literally think about reaching down
Sponsored Gateway player here and I feel they didn't send you a set that represents their products. The Ether, Realm, Apache, the Blade and the Element are amazing discs that stack up to any company
Remove the pinkie in the powergrip and just powergrip with the other 3. Know lots of my friends that have there air bounce and nose up problem fixed with this.
I want to throw a Berg but I bag a Dillo and I don't want to switch... I've been soooo good about not buying new molds. Form coach? Exciting. Are you going to temp me with some sweet Birdie plastic? Shoutout to the EUs!
They're very similar. Berg is just more rounded and usually less touchy. If you want the advantages of a Berg but don't want it to be a crutch the Armadillo is great.
Regarding your throw, and not getting clean, snappy, and flat releases ... I've noticed that, just before you start your run-up, you kind of look toward the camera and then ask morons like me to give advice. LOL, we're morons. Or, at least, I am. My only advice is "keep doing these videos, they're great!"
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The snap is just the fingers slapping the palm, so it makes sense it would be louder on a fan grip. Louder snap doesn't necessarily mean more distance. With a power grip, it's even more important to, 'pour the coffee' with your wrist to get the disc on a level plane.
i 100% agree with ya, the "BERG" is awesome and i used to bag it but... like you said it's what i'd call a "crutch" and prevents you from learning touch and finess. 🤷♂
When powergripping I make sure to put the pressure on my pinky and thumb. Automatic nose down throw.
My first putt with a K3 Berg and I drained a +40' putt. I hit more 25'-40' putts now than with prior Bullets. Bergs 4 Life... at least it's not a 🐖🐷
Athena is a great disc. Straight flyer with reliable finish. I think you’ll like it!
Here are my thoughts on the form asked at 8:09
You're pulling the disc from a high point in your reach back and throwing it towards the ground, but with the nose up, so it flies. That's what's creating the air bounce in your throw (I'm sure you've been told this countless times, sorry). The throw should start with the disc on the same line it will leave your hand on.
It looks like you need to rework the mechanical movement you're doing with your arm. Here's something to try: rest your arm on a countertop or something flat, in the throwing position, with your elbow bent at 90 degrees and your palm side down. Do your reach back and pull-through motions, but keep your forearm in line with the edge of the surface your arm is on/being held over. the forearm arm should basically be moving in a straight, level line during the throw, or rather the disc should be.
I hope this helps. Otherwise, the timing seemed pretty solid, I thought!
Crazy timing. I just bought a bergx because my friend has been telling me to get one for a while now and it’s his favorite approach disc. Have to test a little more but it looks like it’s making my bag and possibly taking the P3X out of the bag.
Berg prevents problems, its an upshot cheat code. Have had so many circle 2 throw ins with it
Berg is fun. I actually used to putt with them, but you're right its a bandaid disc as a thrower. I'm lucky enough to have a berg that is beat to heck that just holds a line though so its got to be in the bag as a bail out. It's great as a utility disc however due to the "beef" on the rim I think it can force its way through foliage a lot better than some other discs, that combined with the lack of glide means you can kinda yam on it up and over something pretty confident it'll get through the leaves but even though you threw it hard its not gonna go flying 100ft past where you were hoping your pitch out was gonna go.
I bag a Pure and a Berg. In a direct comparison, for me, I score lower with the Berg. But a lot of people make for of me using a Berg.
I have 2 berg x 1 1 1 2 its pretty much my approach disc for most scenarios that are within 150ft. Saved a ridiculous amount of shots.
Just had 2 normal bergs come in the mail. Looking forward to my next rounds.
Any guesses on what’s coming in the mail?? 👀
Techdisc?
A backup Järn because the one I sent you just knocked the A2 out of your bag finally.
6:44 First time I realised Nate is not your birth name lol😅. It seems nobody in America is called by their full name, but here in Sweden nicknames are not that common.
I picked up an Emerson Keith Opto-X explorer. I just played a tournament at Idlewild and this was my workhorse fairway driver. Completely straight for 330' or so and a smooth finish for the last 30'. Even in a headwind, I am not seeing any difference in flight. You have more arm than I do but I'm guessing it would be similar. The athena goes far, I just had more success in different winds with the Opto'X explorer holding it's line.
haha I love my Berg but it comes and goes out of the bag. I keep going back to it
Nate! The only way you’re gonna throw more nose down is to reach back lower/change your reach back angle so the disc is below the elbow! It’ll feel weird at first but then will feel great, just literally think about reaching down
Sponsored Gateway player here and I feel they didn't send you a set that represents their products.
The Ether, Realm, Apache, the Blade and the Element are amazing discs that stack up to any company
A 2023 Cole Redalen Pipeline is the disc you're looking for. So beautifully straight. Holds the angle you put it on
I’m guessing a Birdie Reach is coming in the mail, as well as your form practice stuff.
Try a thought space votum for a straight fairway.
I've been on the fence about this diac for so long now. I love my Nomads too much to try something new😢
Don’t fall for the temptation! If nothings wrong with the nomads, just use the nomads !
@@NateTurner truth man
Remove the pinkie in the powergrip and just powergrip with the other 3. Know lots of my friends that have there air bounce and nose up problem fixed with this.
yo honestly try out a stalker for the 350-400 straight shots
I'm no form expert, but gotta keep trying that leg out.
Midranges and putters have deeper rims, more area fornyour fingers to snap off of.
I want to throw a Berg but I bag a Dillo and I don't want to switch... I've been soooo good about not buying new molds. Form coach? Exciting. Are you going to temp me with some sweet Birdie plastic? Shoutout to the EUs!
They're very similar. Berg is just more rounded and usually less touchy. If you want the advantages of a Berg but don't want it to be a crutch the Armadillo is great.
Slide your thumb forward a half inch to get the nose angle down.
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Shout out to the only man who sweats more than me.
Watch that Jonny McCray video.
Snap has absolutely nothing to do with the sound your fingers make 😂
I don't throw with snap ever, unless my hands are sweaty, and when I try to throw with snap...the disc definitely moving faster.
I disagree with everything you said. The Berg highlights extremely well your release angles. It holds the exact angle you throw it on.
Yo Nate have a Gorgon on the way yet? Wanna throw one?
Never heard of a gorgon 🫣
@@NateTurner New Innova Release today (June 26th). Let me get you a couple
You got any info on where Bodanza has disappeared too?
I just got his notification
You summoned him.
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I also get a snap with mids and putters but it's a fake snap coming from fingers :D
Regarding your throw, and not getting clean, snappy, and flat releases ...
I've noticed that, just before you start your run-up, you kind of look toward the camera and then ask morons like me to give advice.
LOL, we're morons. Or, at least, I am.
My only advice is "keep doing these videos, they're great!"