There IS backwards compat. It is a case by case basis. Depends on the developer. I thought you Steam Deck PC Master race dudes already were used to this?
@@xdjrunner no champ, that's called individual developer support updating their game to work with psvr2. Backwards compatibility would be all previous games working on the psvr2 from square one.
I think the biggest problem is they front loaded the launch with awesome titles then left too much of a gap. It’s been less than a year so I believe we will see more soon. Seems they leave showcases for first party stuff instead of state of plays. We haven’t heard too much over the months on what they are doing in general even with ps5. There are many first party studios and we don’t know what they are up to. Asobi as an example is working on something but we have no clue what. VR takes patience.
Yes, I agree. Still prefer PSVR2 when it comes to gaming over Oculus, but I love on Oculus that there is so much more than gaming; UA-cam vr, Oculus tv, Watching a concert in Horizon, Web browsing and watching VR videos on specialty websites, watching 3d movies, learning how to DJ.... Should have more entertainment options and experiences on PSVR2. And more games that aren't first person shooters. The technology is there but Playstation is doing verry little with it.
I agree the games/libary are excellent..I mean just a small amount of polish would go a long way..things likes the ability to watch 3d content, or a nice 3d home environment etc...just needs a touch more love from sony (not a huge amount)@@deadringer28
i just started lone echo 1 and i feel i re-discovered VR. i love PCVR and i love the fact that THE BEST STANDALONE HEADSET (quest 3) gives us such an A+ experience in PCVR as well, UNTETHERED. Ive said this before and ill say it again, the quest 3 is the best all around headset of 2024.
@@W-C-F-o1keveryone can. It's not delisted lol. Get a cheap quest 2 and a cheap PC. These days you can build a rig that shits on the Ps5 for nearly the same price. A 6700xt is under $300.
@@grahamkelly8662 Personal opinion, standalone Quest 3 is still better than PSVR2 because of the amount of content and the consistency of that stream of content. The Quest platform gets at least a handful of releases every single month where PSVR2 it seems like it's a headline every time they get one game. Meta also acquired multiple studios and has shown a lot of potential with their first party titles, and this is the area where Sony does not even try. You could argue that the graphics for PSVR2 are better than Quest 3 but that is honestly negligible with most VR games that come out, with the exception of AAA titles that almost never happen. Go with the Quest 3, it is an awesome piece of hardware.
A couple things... first of all, the only game Sony showed was Helldivers 2, because it comes out next week (and that's not a first-party title, Sony's just publishing it). There were lots of rumors they'd show Concord, but they didn't. Typically Sony doesn't show off their first-party games at State of Play events, they save them for showcases. Second of all, PSVR 1 didn't get Astrobot for 2 years. Their launch window lineup was maybe a bit more diverse than PSVR 2 in terms of the bigger budget titles, but it was also pretty heavily skewed toward horror, with Until Dawn Rush of Blood, Here They Lie, and Resident Evil 7 being some of the biggest early titles (and other horror titles in the mix like Weeping Dolls, The Brookhaven Experiment, and Dying Reborn). I agree that a more diverse slate of bigger releases would be great. I was hoping for an Ace Combat 8 reveal as a full hybrid title, but it seems like Bandai-Namco isn't ready to announce it yet. I agree that this SoP wasn't the absolute slam dunk PSVR 2 needs, but it was good. I wasn't expecting first-party games. I was hoping for more than 2 games, but both the ones they showed looked pretty great. And I'll disagree that games like Metro and Legendary Tales aren't really selling points for PSVR 2. Yes they're both coming to PC, and Metro is coming to Quest, but the PSVR 2 versions look like they'll be close to parity with the PC versions, and PSVR 2 is far more accessible than PC VR for most people. So the best balance between value and performance is clearly the PSVR 2 for both titles (unless the Quest 3 version of Metro looks miraculously good like Red Matter 2 on Quest 2). I definitely think 2024 is a make-or-break year for PSVR 2, and Sony needs to show more support for it, but I don't understand the negative take around this particular event. I'll be far more concerned if Sony has a showcase somewhere from March to May and PSVR 2 doesn't have a big showing there.
Towards the end of this video matteo311 mentioned how he is done with sony not only cuz of this SoP, but also how constantly sony PR person didn't take matteo311 seriously , and how generally speaking Game studios have little interest in making / porting games for psvr2 (I personally some times work with Chinese vr studios , I have the same opinion as matteo311). VR gaming needs constant publishing , instead of , like , giving you 2-3 'AAA' titles each year. Cuz even AAA titles in VR can keep you interested for like , 1 week ? Maximum . The quest library at the moment is the only working situation . PSVR2 doesn't have enough games to keep most users busy 24/ 7 , and steamvr has a too long list of VR demos made by 1 solo dev who works in his garage .
You are being unrealistic if you expect all of PlayStation studios to work on VR games. Developing a AAA first-party VR game takes around 3-4 years. Currently, only two studios, FireSprite and Team Asobi, are dedicated to making VR games. However, we are still getting high-quality PS VR 2 games every month.
I discussed these games in depth. GT7 is a hybrid, you you don't know why that matters check my previous videos. Horizon is the only first party exclusive and its just good, not a reason to pick up the hardware@@xdjrunner
@@Gamingwithmatteo311The highly anticipated next VR Astrobot will most likely be a hybrid game because of the positive reception of Astro’s Play Room. Will you hold Team Asobi to the same standard as GT7 if this turns out to be true?
@@rushtoolman yup. Pcvr has the best fidelity I agree. Anyways, enjoy your Meta partially funded game (5 game partnership announced between Deep Silver and Meta)
People are all like “I’m done with PSVR2!” Then an awesome game drops and they’re all like “PSVR2 IS AMAZING! I WAS WRONG!” Then the cycle repeats. Though I do completely understand peoples’ frustrations because for me personally, even though there are a lot of PSVR2 games, there’s only really a handful that I’m actually interested in, and I do wish there were more games that interest me specifically, but that doesn’t mean the hardware sucks, or that Sony is completely dropping the ball, just that the ecosystem needs to expand, and faster.
If you only own PS5 the PSVR2 is a solid headset. Doesn’t nearly do as much as Quest but it’s solid for gaming. The frustration is Sony has IPs that would be incredible for VR. And they seem to have no interest Astrobots, Last of Us, Killzone, Spiderman, Returnal, GOW, Ratchet & Clank and push to upgrade the PSVR1 library.
The frustration is Sony knows they don't have the money to throw in a pit for those 7 games - what 10 million or more per game? They know it's impossible to get enough sales to justify not only the development cost but most importantly. Loss of compound interest by the dev teams that could be working on something more profitable.
Profits? Games sell consoles games sell headsets…it’s the same concept make good VR games you can’t get anywhere else like they do for consoles. Their mistake was going with call of the mountain at launch/bundle instead of a Spider-Man or Last of Us. Give those PSVR1 folks a reason to upgrade at launch and they didn’t do that.
@@trauma50disaster1 If Sony wasn't willing to take a loss on making VR games, they never should have released a headset. PSVR 2 will not sell without great games, and those great games are likely to require budgets larger than they can recoup. It's called a loss leader. You sell something for a loss (in this case a game, and even possibly the headset), knowing that by doing so you could make a profit later. In this case, the profit would be from other game sales (first and third party), having expanded the PSVR 2 player base by releasing system-selling software. If Sony truly has cold feet after a single round of two titles (one of which was a port), then they really didn't have the commitment that the headset needed from the start, and again, they should've have released it.
Price is what kills vr for the casual consumer. Psvr2 has the graphics but the price is too high, the quest is affordable solution yet most of the games are not very impressive. Such a double edged sword. On a good note me and my wife gave our old quest 2 units to some friends who otherwise would have never gotten into vr and they love it!
But you still need to buy a ps5, you're still tethered, no backwards compatibility, no returns, so many less options in terms of hardware, games and mods. The pros don't out weigh the cons
PSVR is such a limiting platform and will only ever offer a fraction of what is available to PCVR. Most games aren't designed around photorealism because they are targeting the large install base of the quest anyway. If you want the best buy PCVR if you want simplicity and ease of use buy quest, then you can always connect your quest to a PC later if you want a better experience.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 so much of that is unreasonable and outright silly. i love your channel and how you express your opinions but i really think this comment is nick-picky. the whole point of the PSVR2 is that its connected to the PS5 and its better than the Q3 because of it , the wire is not a problem at all, Backwards compatibility is obviously not Sony's fault due to the controls of the psvr1 its understandable you cannot use them on psvr2 its all up to the devs. returns is a understandable con and so is modding, buying a Q3 over a psvr2 so you can return your games isn't really realistic point however i completely understand modding being a problem for some including myself just a bit sad that Into the radius doesnt support modding :(
I dont understand why sony doesnt make the headset usable on pc ?? I had a psvr 2, but once i finished/played the exclusives it was just gathering dust. I have a quest 3 as well as a beefy pc. I sold the psvr2 and i dont miss it at all. All the mods on pc means i can play loads of games.
The connector is not one that exists on most PCs. It's a VR Port connector, those ports never took off and just exists on a small number of 10xx and 20xx series RTX cards... Regardless, people should buy a Quest 3 if they want PCVR. The pancake lenses are just awesome as hell and make the small sweetspot on the PSVR2 look extra ridiculous.
@@JimmyNuisanceI'd take the smaller sweet spot over compression any day of the week. If I am going PCVR I want the best image quality possible - only can be done on a wired headset at the moment.
I love my PSVR2, it’s a great headset and has a lot of great games. Not all the games need to be exclusive to enjoy. Legendary Tales is a good example, an awesome pick to have on the roster of PSVR2 games! I don’t want JUST PSVR2 exclusives. I want as many games coming to the platform as possible.
I am not saying you are, but it sounds a bit like you are one of those meta paid influencers. I am not saying you are wrong (i as psvr2 owner have my worries too). In one your videos you claimed sales were going bad seeing Amazon sales. As far as i know in Europe you can only buy psvr2 by Sony them selves. In the Netherlands and Germany cant find it on Amazon itself or shops. You start out this video that Metro isn t exclusive. That has to do with the vr industry as a whole. Quest, pvcr, psvr2, sales aren t that great. We need each other to keep vr alive. Stop bashing platforms. Start bashing when vr is big. Now it is al about preferences. I do agree that certain developers won t develop for psvr2. But that is because the guys at quality control are asses. They complained at framedrops during a loading screens, but accept some Carnage broken games. As for state of play, during psvr1 showcases did not show much either. I do agree on that Sony should be more open. Give us some more release dates, announcements, a glimpse of the future. Then people can make up there minds if they should by psvr2. Remember we don t have to agreewith each other. But most importantly, every platform has pro s and con s, but for now we should promote each vr platform to keep vr as a whole a live.
I've covered all of these topics in previous videos. Amazon numbers were US only comparisons. I mention metro because people used it as fuel like, look psvr2 is awesome, nope it has the same games. Trust me I understand how the industry works and I elaborated on hows it more about the release quality which psvr2 tends to lack in. I recommend the 2 previous videos for more content
You can buy PSVR2 in stores in Europe. I live in Norway and they're all over the place here. Same with the rest of scandinavia. Same in britain and france. Anywhere that sells PS5 will sell you PSVR2. You could only buy preorders directly from Sony, but the PSVR2 is in stores. Amazon isn't really a european company and buying from them makes little sense in terms of warranties etc. Their statistics wouldn't make sense for Europe.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 My apologies. Did not know you were talking about us only. My mistake. But still means Europe is not included. Although i am afraid it won t be much better over here.
@@JimmyNuisance like i said, to my knowledge. But Germany and the Netherlands don t. Surprised about France. Six months a go they weren t in gameshops or big stores available.
Not mad ! For the most part I agree. I just think Most gamers are gonna stick with flat screen gaming. Most gamers I know won't even give it a chance. I love VR, not going back to flat screen, I was never a hardcore gamer, so maybe I don't count.
It is just marketing and communication that is negative for psvr2. The games are coming and quality is there. What major game quest has had in last 12 months other than aw2 and ac nexus??? Compare psvr2 exclusives with quest games in last 12 months and there is no competition. What you are constantly criticizing is marketing and communication and if you saw sony state of play, there were 0 1st party studios in it. But yet there was two great psvr2 announcements. What that tells us is sony in general is staying quiet at the moment. For ps5 it is not as worrying as it is still doing well. For psvr2 it looks bad as the platform is yet to grow. Dont be too quick to dismiss. It is not even 1 year yet and we have a long way to go in this at minimum 5 year lifespan product unlike the 2 year quests
Yeah man, I just can't fathom the criticism after Sony's new headset has only been out for a year. 12 months! It's not even like they don't have new games coming out. 🤔
The big difference is that Meta has acquired VR studios who are woking on VR projects. Camouflaq is working on a Batman game and Downpour on Onward 2. We don't know what the actual projects the rest of Meta's studios are working on but we know that they are and hopefully some will be announced this year. Also Meta has stated (last year) that they are funding over 150 projects. So it is about communication. As a Meta Quest owner you know there are VR projects coming from the main source and they are heavily investing in the development in other studios projects. We do not know anything like that with Sony or its future plans.
@@boybrownvr6522yes but metas only stake in gaming is vr. Psvr2 is just a ps5 accessory,until vr sells more than flat gaming (wich will never happen) that's all the psvr will be.
Sony dropped the ball so hard with VR its insane lol. literally the perfect hardware to support it but they just dont care...Oh well...Metro Awakening gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@legendp2011 how are you enjoying the PSVR2? with all the hype around VR thanks to Apple Vision Pro, it's making both Quest 3 and PSVR2 seem like a deal. I'm thinking about getting the PSVR2, mostly for gaming and as I enjoy my PS5 so much.
@@malfunkt I have not played it that much due to work. however if you do decide to go for the psvr2. there are some things you should know. 1) the headset needs a top strap and counter weights, its badly balanced. (I recommend either the "2 Pack Combo PSVR2 Ultimate Comfort Kit 150 Gram (5 Oz)" from studioformcreative. or the "Globular Cluster 2) the audio solution is great if you like in ear phones. terrible if you don't.(headphones have issues with VR, I don't like shoving things into my ear canal). there are ways around this. 3) no mods for beat saber (main reason I bought my oculus rift vr headset back in the day. the quest has mods). 4) the lenses have a very small sweet spot. which is why a top strap is advised. with a top strap this isn't an issue, but you will need a top strap. the psvr2 has some fantastic games. and the OLED is nice. however the Quest 3 with Elite battery strap is a much better thought out system. quest 3 has better comfort, wireless, much better lenses, fantasitc integrated audio, and larger games library. I don't regret buying my psvr2. and I Love AAA graphics with cinematic stories. however if forced to pick. I would pick a quest 3 with the elite battery strap (and carry case) for most people. BUT, buy the headset that makes you excited to use it. the PSVR2 is still great, just has some issues. TLDR: Quest 3 with elite battery strap is a better headset, PSVR2 has better games
I just look at the first year of psvr and compare it to psvr 2… we forget but it’s awesome the amount of great games there already are for the platform.
You might be right, but the first year of PSVR was no slouch. We got Here They Lie (still one of my favourites on the platform), Resident Evil 7, Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, Statik, Eagle flight, Thumper, VR Worlds, Headmaster, Job Simulator, Battlezone, Paranormal Activity: The Lost Soul, Farpoint, Super Hot, Dirt Rally, Driveclub, The Solus Project, Raw Data, Rez Infinite, and Batman: Arkham VR. And Skyrim came out in month 13.
@@makegamemusic I might've looked it up... 👀 Yeah Here They Lie is great imo, at least if you like horror themed walking sims with some stealth elements. I think it had a demo in one of the PSVR digital demo "discs" so you could try it out. Also Wes from Virtual Strangers does a full playthrough every year in October, so you could check that out to see if you like the vibe of the game. And yeah it doesn't go on sale very often. I had to wait for quite a while for it. It did get a physical release though, so you might be able to track down a cheap physical copy.
They didn't show anything during game awards or summer games fest either... So what's left? Gamescom? Sony don't care. EGX? PAX? Comicon? Do they have a pirate radio station somewhere that broadcasts random announcements? Should we look for coded messages in phone books?
@JimmyNuisance I said. Their own showcases are different from state of plays. That's where they show off new 1st party titles as it has the biggest reach. That's exactly where they should be targeting imo. It remains to be seen whether they will show anything substantial vr related though. The rumblings of twisted metal, astrobot, killzone and wipeout have been going on for a while now so we'll see.
@@scallysays They had one of those showcases during games week last year, and it was really crappy. It was the first big show they had since 2019 and it was just pure shit... If June of this year has the same pathetic showing I'm gonna call this headset dead. I would kill a smurf to get Twisted Metal on PSVR2.. WipEout as well. Only thing we kinda know for sure is Ace Combat 8 is getting PSVR2 support. That's gonna be pretty sweet. Only reason I'm still holding on to this headset (aside from GT7 which I love.)
@JimmyNuisance nah they had a couple of great shows in 2020 and an okay one in 2021. The one last year was the first one since psvr2 released and like you said, it was crappy. All around not just psvr2. We can only hope that they turn things around this year as it's not too late but they're almost out of time.
I hate how right you are lol. I bought the PSVR2 so excited for what Sony would bring to the VR scene and despite the many great experiences I’ve had with it they still continue to put a bad taste in my mouth with the way they treat the headset. Waiting for a miracle to happen and then release a god of war game and Astro bot but really seems like they have no interest in trying to make the headset succeed
Glad one VR content creator finally said this. This was a truly pathethic VR showcase. Sony could not even bother even showing indie game VR ports to PSVr2 this year. And man the second VR game they showed is a indie 4 player dungeon crawler game that will be......$55. Thats a insane price for what the game is.
No return policy also means that once you pay those 55 bucks, there's no going back. Game sucks? Too bad. Game is buggy AF? Too bad. 55 bucks in the trash. Experience tells me the legendary tales will be bad on PSVR2. Devs won't spend time polishing a game for like a potential userbase of 3000 people on the PSVR2...
I bought PSVR & PSVR2 specifically for Resident Evil so I already got my money's worth. Anything extra is icing on the cake so I'm totally happy with it. I understand if others don't feel the same. edit: I should have also mentioned that I own roughly 52 PSVR games and 48 PSVR2 games.
You got No Man's Sky Gran Turismo 7 Assassin's Creed Nexus Don't let these dudes deter you from a fun time, all they are focused on are to get you to BUY!
@@xdjrunnergt7 is the only exclusive. I think you’re not logically thinking like we are. I could play no man’s sky in vr on my pc. I also have way better sim racers on my pc for vr. The only thing that Sony has is re4 and re8, past that, nothing is truly making a good impression for spending 1100 bucks. I bought PSvr2 thinking “re7 should get redone along with a few other great PSVR games” yet nothing has been ported yet, nor has anything else coming really made a compelling reason to even buy the PSVR2
@@JamesCook76131 Lots of people don't have powerful enough gaming PC's to play VR at PS5/PSVR 2 levels of fidelity. For them, it doesn't matter if a game is also on PC, as getting a PS5 and PSVR 2 is probably going to be cheaper than upgrading their PC and buying a PC VR headset. Clearly you're not in that situation, so of course it makes more sense for you to go with PC VR. As for PSVR 1 games getting ported, I think over 50 have been so far, just nothing from Sony (and I don't think they'll do any).
I never had a psvr. Psvr2 is my first and only vr headset. I plan on getting meta quest 3 this year. I have 38 games for my psvr2 currently. I love VR games, addicted even…
The PSVR 1 was my first headset, the first VR game I played was the Resident Evil 7 Demo were you were tied to a chair in a eerie dark room, and a head comes rolling across the floor. I WAS HOOKED, and Ive been playing VR ever since. I now have a Quest 2, and Quest 3. Sony let me down in October of 2020 the month before the PS 5 release, and they made the comment that they were not concerned about a VR head set for the PS 5, and that they may develop one in the next few years, there main concern was next Gen flat screen games for there PS 5. One of the head people of Sony U.S.A even made a video announcement about this. I think this alone shows there comment to VR. Sorry to rant a little, but I do hope you have a great day. See you in your next video.
I also remember this, I was a PSVR player and knew I wouldn't be a PSVR2 customer as I had no ambition to buy a PS5 then buy a VR2 for 700 bux more. But I was pretty disappointed when they basically abandoned the PSvR players when the PS5 came out.
@@PutlerHuyIo But do you NEED to make a game that expensive? It seems like we gravitate more and more towards gigantic AAAs as the sole product of large game makers. Why not more AAs with smaller budgets again?
@@xXYannuschXx I totally agree with that. I think Sony is starting to realize how unsustainable their business model is getting too. I mean, it's possible that they'll wind up with ONE new game from Naughty Dog for this ENTIRE GENERATION. Their AAA games are costing too much and taking too long. The only reason they've been able to get away with it so far is that they haven't had a total flop, and they're plugging the holes in their release schedule with third-party partnerships. And at the end of the day, people would probably be fine with games that didn't look quite as good (but played great), and weren't quite as long. Or they could release more modest length games, then bolster them with multiple expansions. Like if Ghost of Tsushima was half the length (and a lower price), then got multiple paid expansions like Iki Island. It'd keep up a better release cadence, and Sony could focus post-release resources on the games which performed best. They've gotta change something up though. I have a feeling that Factions isn't going to be their only live service gamble to get cancelled before it even launches.
I think Sony gave you their catch-all answer to future releases because they want to keep any announcements in their own press rotations. otherwise you get stuff like... Metro Awakening leaking, so maybe it's a way to mitigate crap like that. They probably just didn't want to tell you "Are you nuts! We only have like 4 VR games coming out this year. We need to drip-feed these releases tactfully in our 'State of Plays!'"
Anytime you deal with pr it's embargoed. So I still release at the same time, I just have extra time to prepare. I'm not asking for scoop just weekly or monthly release dates
The issue i have is to this day and multiple quest later and theres only just now 1 exclusive with asgard's wrath and one could argue re4 but as you said re4remake doesnt count so to shouldnt re4 on quest for the same reasons. So that said why its it fine that the quest has just 1 must own game years later and the psvr2 isnt a year old and everyone is expecting 20+ exclusives? Dont get me wrong i want sony to do more but also see that all vr headsets have no real must owns besides 1 or 2.
Love it or not, Asscreed is also a Quest exclusive. All the good shooters are also on Quest and won't be coming to PSVR2.. Onward is a Meta studio, and contractors don't care about PSVR2 because you can't really do mods on the PSVR2 so it would have had to be a completely different client. Same holds true for Pavlov which is why the PSVR2 version of Pavlov is totally gimped compared to the PCVR version.
@@JimmyNuisance the studio behind contractors is making a new game which is coming to psvr2, assassins creed is exclusive so I'll give you that but I'd bet it's only a timed exclusive. Even when loading up the game it mentions about registering to show what vr headset you're using not what quest or no reason for that message at all for an exclusive, but time will tell. You named games but only 1 was a first party exclusive but isn't in anyway a system seller. The video was about how Sony doesn't have first party and asgards wrath is really the only exclusive on quest worth talking about and buying. I have multiple vr headset including a quest 3 and psvr2 so I'm not trying to bash but find it odd that occulus is given a free pass being on their 4th headset and really only a handful of exclusives but again psvr2 has basically a year and people expect 20+ exclusives. Yes Sony needs to do more fully agree but I'd say they're putting out exclusives at a faster rate then oculus does.
@@eli2955 exclusives are what sells hardware. Always been the case and always will be the case. If it wasn't and a thing of the past then everyone would just be a pc gamer but the fact pc isn't anywhere near as big as consoles proves exclusives are what sells.
Not sure the VR market can deal with too many exclusives at this point. We're much better off with things being multiplatform with the size of the player base. Devs need to eat.
exclusives would need to be platform funded like asgard 2 and horizon. devs will be fine. The need for exclusives is to drive users to the platform otherwise it won't grow
PSVR2 on twitter: Thanks for including us in your video! I completely understand the frustration working with a PR connection that gives you nothing. Very frustrating. I'm sure that Sony is watching videos like this, and hopefully they understand that they have to improve. Was the PSVR1 better after a year? I feel like it also slowed down.
PSVR1 was going strong for 3 years or so before it slowed down. WipEout and Astro Bot came out in 2017 and 2018. Two of the best games on the platform. First year was also better. And that was during an era where VR as a whole was new. Right now, PSVR2 is getting quest and PC ports from the last 8 years of VR. That's what's keeping it afloat.
@@JimmyNuisance psvr2 got gt7 resident evil 4 remake and village vr horizon call of mountain in one year witch are stronger than the titles you mentioned for psvr1, their is no deny that psvr2 got the strongest games last year for vr, quality over quanity
PSVR1 at least every AAA developer made an attempt to make a game for it. PSVR2 it has been a couple of AAA developers and nothing but terrible indie stuff. The variety isn't there either.
One thing I really dislike is the lack of backwards compatibility. If they wanted to make it work they definitely could have, it’s only their to motivate devs to update their games to psvr2.
As someone that invested in meta quest 3 and pcvr I’m glad the psvr isn’t anything special because I don’t feel like I’m missing anything by not having it lol
😢😢😢 I'm losing hope with every passing week that they'll prove you wrong. I love what we've got, but there's room for improvement and Sony isn't capitalizing on it.
Stop making excuses for a company’s lack of support for their own Hardware. They are not doing enough to sell their merchandise. As a result PSVR2 will Fail!
You should actually check out a few lesser indie psvr2 games. Here’s a few gems Light brigade Saints & sinners 1 &2 Runner vr Zombie land Thumper Moss And a fair few other really fun games available. I’d prefer more AAA but it is what it is, unfortunately.
@@grahamkelly8662 Those seem like some fun games, but none of them are PSVR2 exclusives. The point I was making and the point that I think that Rodney was making is that the only PSVR2 exclusives that are very good are RE4 Remake VR and RE8 VR.
@@onehitkill8895 oh, I get ya. Just as you didn’t mention exclusive games, I just thought you meant good game, in general . Oh I don’t suppose you’ve played after the fall complete edition on psvr2? If so, is it doable alone? I hear some say it’s too punishing alone and others say it’s doable. The game is half price on ps store at £12.49 and I’m tempted to buy. Because I get really bad motion sickness, I decided to buy most games in sale and that way, if motion sickness is so bad, that I can’t play, at least I got game at discounted price. I mean I like shooters and I like zombies but I don’t like super punishing games. Especially when playing alone and can’t progress.
I think you are biased towards the quest, I don’t think you are a bad influencer, and maybe you are right about the reason you are posting this, but I wonder, why didn’t you cover anything or almost anything about the great games the PSVR2 just got, like RE4 or vertigo2, is obvious Sony paid capcom to bring one of those games to the system. Well, as I said, I don’t think you really mean that you are behind VR in all, I think you are biased for the quest. My two cents.
I covered vertigo 2 months ago when it released on PC. Unfortunately the PSVR2 version came much later, received multiple delays which threw off my schedule and just wasn't nearly as polished as the PC version. Am I pc biased now? I didn't get early access to RE4 and had other obligations lined up at that time. I've been called biased for every company including the PSVR2. Go check out my early coverage when it was released. I was called a sony fanboy back then. I call it like it is, when you deserve praise, you get it
@MrVmporras1, Verigo 2 came to PC VR months ago. He covered it back then. What would he say in addition to what he already said when he first covered it. There seems to be no PS exclusive content, so the only thing left to talk about is if it's on par with the PC version.
There simply aren't enough VR players, so far as Sony seems concerned, to warrant focusing their energy on the PSVR2--and that frankly seems to be the attitude of everyone but Meta and (possibly) Apple, and more than one developer has said as much. Hoping that Apple's expansion into... er, Spatial Computing... will light a fire under Sony, since word is that Meta's Quest 3 is seeing increased sales since the Vision Pro came out; but honestly, I'm beginning to wonder about what's going on with Sony behind the scenes, re., their in interest in gaming for VR. Meanwhile, my PSVR2 is quietly waiting... and gathering dust.
My PSVR2 has been collecting dust since I got the Quest 3, I have even purchased the BOBOVR phones but I havent even connected them to try. So bad. GIVE US NEW GAMES & MAKE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH ALL PSVR GAMES.
Bro, before launch I thought if someone is gonna push VR into masses, it's gonna be Sony with PSVR2, just like they did with PSVR. But they straight up refuse to do anything with it apart from a couple of exclusives. It baffles and saddens me.
They should release all the PS3 3D games from the 2010's, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 etc. in 1080p 3D. That would be killer. I'd buy it for that alone. There's SO much they could do, Make it compatible with 3D Bluray.
Matteo, your channel is my go to for VR news. I subscribe to only a handful of channels and yours is one of them. Im subscribed because you keep it real. Dont go changing because of a bunch of fanboys or simple minded people giving you bullshit. Its hard to find content creators that dont sell out. Just continue to state your true opinions and/or feelings. Thanks
That's what I'm saying. Exclusives kill the industry. I've noticed Sony's exclusives never roped me in enough to buy a PS5 and a PSVR2. Only reason I got the VR1 was because I already had a PS4. But I've always been jealous of Quest2 players and PCVR players because they get all the cool games. Not to mention thumbsticks. LoL I'm a happy Quest 3 owner now and looking into an affordable gaming PC next.
The original psvr was extraordinarily good at introducing a typical console gamer into vr. When I first got it, shortly after release, I didn't have the move controllers, but most games was made for the ps4 controller, so it really felt like gateway drug into vr with the ps4 gamer in mind 😆. I don't see psvr2 doing any of that. They would come a long way if they just ported over all the old psvr games with slightly updated textures and resolution. Then they could release some of their exclusives with "vr support". Those things would still be really lazy and a bad excuse for releasing a brand new hmd, but it would at least give people some hope that they care, and they would give their customers something to do.
I totally agree. I have a quest 3 also. Quest is killing it has constant updates to improve the experience, update after update all the time. Loads of great none gaming vr options too. Sony has a great bit of kit no one can argue with that. But wheres half life, god of war, a huge Skyrim type game etc using the incredible PSVR features. No man's sky open world is incredible so it can definitely be done.
Psvr1 is still something I use till this day. I cannot understand how Sony will not release something like blood and truth 2 . Psvr2 is Such a good headset but I fear the lack of sales will be the death of it.
Your my favourite vr channel and Sony are blind. It happened when they lost the PS3 release and it's happening now. Keep up the good work and hopefully ps will understand what you're doing for the industry
It's over, Sony is just riding Meta's coattails. As for Legendary Tales, it hasn't been updated in 2 years and they raised the price from 30 to 55 so people are upset at the dev.
Matteo always reminds me of my wife's awesome Portuguese family from Rhode Island. He even talks like them. :) Matteo, your last mane wouldn't happen to be Ferreira, would it? LOL
You're right. Metro isnt bad thst its coming. But we need spiderman vr, we need gta6 vr, we need last of us part 3 vr, mlb 2025 vr. They need to saturate the market with good games.
I don't have a PlayStation so I don't have a dog in the hunt, but I have been saying this for a long time with Quest is that VR development is hard and takes time. However, this is a problem with a closed eco system. This will be an issue for Apple as well. Quest may not be the best headset 2 or 3, but there is an edge with its ability to do PCVR, it has its own store and you can sidequest games and apps as well. Meta also has been good with continuous and regular updates for the headset and finally produced games like Assassin's Creed and Asgard's Wraith II. I also have a bunch of other games like Demeo, Dungeons of Eternity, and Beat Saber just to name a few that continue to develop their original game and add content.
Absolutely agree on your opinion on PSVR2. Still using my Quest and love possible content. Allthough I saw some titles on PSVR2 and tried them and still think that PSVR2 gives more of that gaming expierence and can bring VR in to the same level as consuming flatscreen games and become more mainstream. But for now, if same software is releasing on multiple platforms, i would still be using quest for portability, wireless and versitility reasons!
Seems like the same thing they did with VR1. Some really cool titles at first, but not much support over time. This thing really should've been able to play VR1 games. Unfortunately, NO VR headset works for me at the moment because I can't deal with the bulk and weight. I look forward to the future of VR/AR where we can just put on a pair of glasses.
I’m so glad that I decided to spend last year’s bonus on an M2 MacBook Air instead of the PS5+PSVR2 combo I was eyeing. This year, I decided to go with a Quest 3, and it has been a super great experience. I really feel like I dodged a bullet last year. Sure, the hardware looks amazing, and the graphics are undeniably awesome, but they really have needed to expand that library. I have so many games on my Quest that there’s still like 7 of them that I have paid good money for that I haven’t even been able to get around to playing yet! And I’ve only played Assassin’s Creed ONE TIME - and it’s the reason I bought the Q3 to begin with!
If the Quest 3 came out reasonably close in time to the release of the PS VR2, I would have bought the Quest 3 instead. I loved the Sony experience enough to take a risk on it and don't regret the purchase. If VR is turned on for Sony exclusives, it will be a financial win for Sony on both consoles and headset sales.
So you missed out on the psvr2 because that lack of games even though there is 140 games and you buy a quest 3 and don’t even have the time to play all the games, I got a quest two but the graphics and sounds sound so shit on a standalone vr even if you play psVr2 everyday for 2 hours, you’re not gonna run out of content unless your a teenage with no job and can sit around all day playing Vr
@@marcellbeckford3955 I’m pretty happy with the way things went down. If I would have bought the PS5+PSVR2, I’d still have had to have bought the Quest 3 for Assassin’s Creed (my favorite series) and Asgard’s Wrath 2.
My question to this UA-camr is why isn't the same question being asked about Meta or PCVR(VR industrt as a whole)? The truth is VR isn't a big enough market because most people are simply not interested in it. That's just the truth that we and Sony have to all acknowledge and accept.
Psvr was my first hmd back in 2017. The only other option then was pcvr. I had a ps4 and my CP wasn't amazing, so it was an easy choice. Console vs pc split gamers apart with different preferences, and early vr was following that pattern. It almost seems like Sony completely missed the fact that both those vr platform were eaten up by the quest platform, and they just thought they could make a lazy psvr2 release, reel in all the console/vr fans and then it's just business as usual. But, it seems like a lot of people who fell in love with vr thanks to psvr, moved on a few years later to quest 2, because you could suddenly play both standalone and wireless pcvr. Those who wasn't completely convinced, moved on from vr entirely. So, what's left is pretty much a nonexistent market of a few people who already own a ps5, loves vr and doesn't own a hmd. Now, of I put myself in that position, I still can't see a reason to buy a wired hmd with fresnel lenses, outdated specs and with a tiny games library that won't even include the 40+ games I already bought on psvr back in the day. A quest 3 seems like a much better investment on all fronts 🤷♂️.
The sad part about all this, Sony had the opportunity to be what Apple has become for vr and could have done some amazing things and hyped vr in the mainstream. Sony slept on it, now they are watching Apple Vision hype, if anything it might reinvigorate them to make it a priority. Unfortunately sony fumbled with some amazing hardware.
They don’t usually make new first party announcements at their State of Plays. PSVR2 isn’t even a year old and it’s got an incredible catalogue of games and I’m afraid your overall take on this, I find intellectually dishonest. It’s you who doesn’t care about PSVR2.
Your opinion here is the exception not the norm. There is also a lot more to the convo in the previous 2 videos. As far as announcements, that's not really true
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 even if my opinion in your space is the exception, I don’t see how this is relevant. I have Quest 3 and PSVR2 and enjoy both and it’s odd to me that following an awesome announcement like Metro you’d be making a video like this solely about PSVR2. And my point about their state of plays is right if you look back through recent history. However if we have a showcase in Summer that doesn’t reveal any first party VR titles, then yeah maybe that would be the time to be worried. But that ain’t gonna happen and it’s likely we’ll get the Astrobot 2 reveal. That’s my take on it though it might got the likes and clicks that the negative takes on PSVR2 do. This is an exciting time for all VR, we shouldn’t be pushing down one of the platforms just for clicks. I’ll see ya later.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311I’m aware. That wasn’t the point though. You said this was a game available on the PC already, but I’m pointing out that it wasn’t the full version. There’s nothing wrong with multi platform games on the psvr2, especially when they tend to be the best versions of the games. I do want to hear more from Sony about first party titles though don’t get me wrong, but I don’t feel as doom and gloom about the system as you seem to.
@TylerSampson51 I've discussed how the lack of non hybrid exclusives is leading significantly limiting sales of the psvr2, in other videos. When it comes to psvr2 releases being the best, that ship has sailed. With such a low install base devs aren't making any money so the are giving psvr2 less attention and games are launching in the worst state of all vr platforms
If you look at the word in mainstream gaming news, everyone feels the same way about Sony overall. It’s definitely not just VR, they have been really quiet. They don’t speak or promote shit anymore. I seen one tweet regarding the state of play as “it seems like Sony is just calling it in now, no hype, no promotion”. By comparison it sucks because Meta nothing but promote VR so we expect the same amount of Sony but Jim Ryan set in an interview that they don’t even have to promote their products anymore because they just sell. If VR didn’t matter to them, they would stop showing it on the big stage. I think the events that will have exclusives are still to come. Sony has numerous gaming events a year, Meta only has one and they condense it all down into one stellar event. If we got one Sony VR Event last year and it was loaded with all of the exclusives we got last year I think the perception would be different. Considering the fact that you have to buy a PlayStation 5, and that it’s doing better than its predecessor which was the second best selling headset ever said that it’s doing pretty good. It was never going to do Quest numbers. I failed to agree with the idea that it’s failing to deliver games. While I always seem to be on the side of Sony here, I do agree that Meta Is a way safer platform to be on and I even think that it’s a better headset for new VR users. The pancake lenses are so crystal clear. I just don’t see what you see. If you compare it to what Meta has delivered in the past year, I don’t understand how people aren’t saying the same thing about Meta. The only difference is that Meta truly gives a shit and it shows. But even though Sonys promotion is shit, it doesn’t take away from the fact that we got some of the best VR games of all time on the PSVR2. RE4, Village, GT7, Vertigo 2 on PC, Asgards Wrath 2 and even AC Nexus to some extent all rank among the best VR games we’ve ever seen. I failed to see how people are complaining about this considering the lack of support we’ve seen in the VR industry since 2020
Watching state of play i almost for a moment thought the metro game was exclusive and i was like awwh man here it is but then i saw it was multi plat and was very stoked, haven't regretted buying the quest 3 at all!
I personally have almost no desire to play a game type that works best on a flat screen... in VR. Maybe there just aren't too many more ideas for things that can ONLY be done in VR.
Flat screen will always work much better than the same game in VR. At some point, graphics, processing and storage on a VR set might be good enough to match what we have now in flat screen. When you get into VR, having the ability to move a view by turning your head is very cool, though. Having controllers that are closer to the real world than a game controller is also cool. I like flat-screen and VR games for different reasons. VR is much more immersive, even if the graphics aren't quite as good.
I love your channel! I hate this for psvr2. I bought day 1 and tried to hold out hope but it is what it is. Oh well. I almost feel like this could be fixed if Sony just sunk some money into it, I mean that’s what you do if you put out a new product is invest in it. Why did they even put it out if they didn’t want to invest?
Great video Matteo, You are 100% right and it's sad that there are people out there in the VR community who are in denial about this. I was waiting for Sony to announce something before Christmas like a Astro Bot remake at the very least and we got absolutely nothing from them at all. I can see it getting a pretty big price drop this year, That will most likely spell the end of the PSVR2 as a viable headset unless they announce some first party games finally. I love VR in general, Why isn't there any apps on PSVR2 at all compared to other headsets? Why don't we have a dedicated dashboard for PSVR2 on PS5? Why can't we buy extra controllers? Why are we still seeing games running at 60/120? The list goes on. I'll still continue to play my PSVR2 and spend money on games, As long as they are good quality ports and or 1st party games. /waits to be called a meta shill by my mate on here 🤣🤣
I was one of the earliest adopters of the first PSP in Australia, having imported it from Japan on launch. Slowly, but surely, Sony was losing interest in supporting it as time went on. Basically, I'm getting the same abandonment vibes for the PSVR2 as was the case for the PSP hardware line. A shame, VR as a whole needs competition, innovation, and definitely 1st party support.
I often read that Jim Ryan wanted to kill PSVR2 back in 2019 but wasn't allowed to. So that could explain why there is no backwards compatibility, possibly not that many 1st party titles (if any) in the pipeline etc. I don't know if that is true and I honestly always liked Jim Ryan, but maybe his departure and the new japanese leader will boost PSVR2. Fingers crossed. What's also to consider are the last 2-3 years with supply constraints, the ABK deal, that's a lot to deal with for Sony.
YESSS!!!! The onyl person that proves the point ive argued with many. THere were ZERO psvr2 exclusive games shown, sony showed things they were excited for over the next year. For them not to show ANYTHING is troubling. People argue with me about metro, and how its better that its multiplat. And I get that sentiment and actually agree. But this was a PS showcase and a HUGE chance for sony to show we were all wrong about psvr2 and they DID NOT. Thats telling
The reprojection and frame persistence is my biggest barrier. I started vr with the quest 2 using it mostly for pcvr. I got the psvr2 day 1 and to this day I still get a headache after an hour in reprojection games. Add to that one too many games that run at a low res with disappointing graphics on top of having performance issues and no eye tracked foveated rendering like why did you even port this shit. Love my Quest 3 right now. Sony can announce a thousand vr games this year and I won't care if these core issues aren't addressed.
You remember that metro like pcvr game that was on steam ? Maybe this is why the developers came after that studio so hard so they didn’t have to worry that the off brand metro vr could have been possibly better than the now announced official metro vr.
If they bring out ports of famous ps5 games like GOW ragnarok or remaster old psvr1 games, the headset would be in a better place. I love my psvr2 and you have to admit, it is the most advanced tech vr headset out.
where there is no quick $ there is no $ony support. Ive sold my psvr2 6 months ago (bought used one for 3/4 of price). Played gt7, resi 8, horizon, no mans sky, saints and sinners, star wars tales from galaxy edge and after 2 months of use sold psvr 2 along with my ps5 ( also bought used) just to play psvr2. Now I am on pcvr with quest 3 and I am happy. I am not hiding my feelings towards $ony. I was with products of this company since walkman then ps1,ps2, psp, ps3, ps vita, ps4 psvr1. since ps5 I realy started to hate this greedy corp. And no matter what I will never back to buying $ony crap again. Now it is only pure hate. Right now Ive got my old ps1,2,3 with collection of old games Ive sold even ps4 with all games. I am not going to pay for ability to play online, overpriced games and stupid overpriced accesories and so on. $ony is dead to me. Buying ps5 it is like buying overpriced decoder, and to use it in full potential u have to buy subscription and on top of that overpriced software. ure paying game for 80$ and without ps+ subscription u cannot even use online features of the game that uve bought for full price 😂 talking about prices in psstore.... How it is possible that phisycal copies in stores are cheaper than digital ones in psstore? 😂 $ony really need to fall down to learn some lessons. And if players wont stop buying every crap from this corp $ony will never change. Vote with your wallet guys or forever be f in the ass. Lately $ony released ps5 slim. Why? because Ps5 fat prices at last dropped after 3 years. So $ony had to increase prices of their "new" slim console before they release ps5 pro for crazy amount of $ even though in the past slim versions of $ony consoles were cheaper than original Fat ones. ps portal... I do not want to even talk about this cash grab...😂 stands for 30$ and other stupid stuff. As u can see I am not from USA cause of my poor english. I am from Europe Poland to be exact and here we pay much more than customers in USA due to extra taxes and currency exchange rates. I know it is not fault of $ony but politicians but u have to think twice nowdays before u decide to spend some money. For me buing used stuff in good condition it is the name of the game ;) and quick selling it without a loss if there is smth that I do not like about product I have bought or I feel like smth like psvr2 2 does not have bright future.
@@xdjrunner I've listed every title worth anything on psvr 2 and it is about less than 10. And to be true only 3 titles are brilliant and exclu for psvr 2. resi 8,4 and gt7 (horizon maybe it is exclu but it is nth special) That is pitiful. Having quest 3 and pcvr Ive got 100+ vr games that are worth smth + tons of great community mods. Lately released enreal engine vr mod making every ue game into vr. Both options pcvr and standalone. Return policy of games. F $ony. Most of the titles I have bought used gt 7, star wars, resi 8, star wars, horizon demo it was enough, saints free update cause i bought tourist edition when I had psvr1. so I,ve finished every psvr2 title worth anything and sold it along with psvr2 and ps5 console that I also bought used. Just to be sure that $ony wont get any of my $ anymore. And I am proud of it.
As soon as sony announced no backwards compatibility and I saw the price and that they wouldn't be selling the hardware at a discount, I knew it wasnt a product they really believed in, seems like the decisions makers at Sony were divided, one side wanted to produce the psvr2 for the existing psvr fanbase and the other side that reluctantly agreed to produce the hardware but with the caveat that Sony would not be spending any money to support it or grow it, there is just 0 commitment to the hardware by sony, they werent willing to sell it at cost or a discount to grow the market nor were they willing to appease owners of psvr1 by allowing backwards compatibility and finally they appear totally unwilling to put any first party resources into the platform.
I'm amazed people expect any different after the Vita. Sony has made it abundantly clear that their strategy for weak hardware sales is "take the money and run".
I was going to buy it. The preorders could only come from ordering directly from Sony. Never bought it because of that. It is so important how you come out the gate. I cannot be the only person who would have ordered it if I could have ordered the thing from Amazon.
The state of play was great, granted I love flat top games AND VR games. I enjoy a multitude of games. My guess as to how sony is going to handle the PSVR 2. I can't imagine them investing the time and money to create the headset and not support it enough. Only issue is that with their first party developers I also couldn't imagine sony having them create VR titles considering majority of gamers are flat top players. Hopefully Sony has some games in the works, still hoping for an open world RPG VR game on the ps5. Loving Asgards Wrath 2 but visually would still love to play a game with some better graphical fidelity
Sony didn't even bother to add two extra buttons on each controller and write a driver to map the inputs so you could play PSVR1 games on PSVR2, do you really think they will make a lot of exclusives which takes considerably more money and effort? At this point if you want to play VR just get a good PC or get a Quest as majority of PSVR2 games are bad Quest ports anyways.
VR Developers have it hard enough just making VR games. Making a PSVR2 game requires developing with a PC HMD that Sony doesn't provide, that alone is ridiculous, you'd think they would as part of the platform tooling recognise that the PSVR2 needs a PC Driver. The certification process and understanding the Sony Platform is a nightmare and consumes so much time that I think most developers that are not being subsidised don't see the value in investing in it. Certainly not if you have any prior experience with the cert process and if you've been paying attention to hardware sales numbers.
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But I'm already subscribed why do you keep asking?
what do I need to make a an account and subscribe every time you ask >:(
@@DogofLilith :)
Wrong! I'm cool and haven't subscribed (yet) lol
you could be cooler@@rodriguezkev
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Just subscribed, surely I'm the coolest guy ever now?
honestly sony goofed by not having any backwards combability with the psvr 1 library, like no skyrim VR or astro bot on psvr 2???
There IS backwards compat. It is a case by case basis.
Depends on the developer.
I thought you Steam Deck PC Master race dudes already were used to this?
@@xdjrunner no champ, that's called individual developer support updating their game to work with psvr2. Backwards compatibility would be all previous games working on the psvr2 from square one.
@@babyspine much different headset with much different tracking. Can’t just automatically make these games backwards compatible.
@NexGenVR
You CAN play the PSVR games on PSVR2.
Call it a "software update" if you want, CHUMP.
Make sure you are being HONEST.
@@xdjrunner nah, get ratioed nerd
I love the psvr2, but if sony could just give thier platform 3% of the effort/nuture which meta gives the quest it would be in such a better place
100% correct there 👌
They have everything they need to make it the best VR platform ever but have missed an open goal lol
I think the biggest problem is they front loaded the launch with awesome titles then left too much of a gap. It’s been less than a year so I believe we will see more soon. Seems they leave showcases for first party stuff instead of state of plays. We haven’t heard too much over the months on what they are doing in general even with ps5. There are many first party studios and we don’t know what they are up to. Asobi as an example is working on something but we have no clue what. VR takes patience.
Yes, I agree. Still prefer PSVR2 when it comes to gaming over Oculus, but I love on Oculus that there is so much more than gaming; UA-cam vr, Oculus tv, Watching a concert in Horizon, Web browsing and watching VR videos on specialty websites, watching 3d movies, learning how to DJ.... Should have more entertainment options and experiences on PSVR2. And more games that aren't first person shooters. The technology is there but Playstation is doing verry little with it.
How do you figure better place? 4 out of 5 VR games of the year were PSVR2 exclusives. PSVR2 won Hardware of the Year. 🤣
I agree the games/libary are excellent..I mean just a small amount of polish would go a long way..things likes the ability to watch 3d content, or a nice 3d home environment etc...just needs a touch more love from sony (not a huge amount)@@deadringer28
i just started lone echo 1 and i feel i re-discovered VR. i love PCVR and i love the fact that THE BEST STANDALONE HEADSET (quest 3) gives us such an A+ experience in PCVR as well, UNTETHERED. Ive said this before and ill say it again, the quest 3 is the best all around headset of 2024.
Love Lone Echo, but it is unfortunate that we still praise games from 2017-2019 and talk about them as the "peak" of VR now 5-7 years later
I wish I could play that game 😢
@@W-C-F-o1keveryone can. It's not delisted lol. Get a cheap quest 2 and a cheap PC. These days you can build a rig that shits on the Ps5 for nearly the same price. A 6700xt is under $300.
Is quest 3 in stand alone, no pc, as good or better then psvr2?
@@grahamkelly8662 Personal opinion, standalone Quest 3 is still better than PSVR2 because of the amount of content and the consistency of that stream of content. The Quest platform gets at least a handful of releases every single month where PSVR2 it seems like it's a headline every time they get one game. Meta also acquired multiple studios and has shown a lot of potential with their first party titles, and this is the area where Sony does not even try. You could argue that the graphics for PSVR2 are better than Quest 3 but that is honestly negligible with most VR games that come out, with the exception of AAA titles that almost never happen. Go with the Quest 3, it is an awesome piece of hardware.
A couple things... first of all, the only game Sony showed was Helldivers 2, because it comes out next week (and that's not a first-party title, Sony's just publishing it). There were lots of rumors they'd show Concord, but they didn't. Typically Sony doesn't show off their first-party games at State of Play events, they save them for showcases.
Second of all, PSVR 1 didn't get Astrobot for 2 years. Their launch window lineup was maybe a bit more diverse than PSVR 2 in terms of the bigger budget titles, but it was also pretty heavily skewed toward horror, with Until Dawn Rush of Blood, Here They Lie, and Resident Evil 7 being some of the biggest early titles (and other horror titles in the mix like Weeping Dolls, The Brookhaven Experiment, and Dying Reborn). I agree that a more diverse slate of bigger releases would be great. I was hoping for an Ace Combat 8 reveal as a full hybrid title, but it seems like Bandai-Namco isn't ready to announce it yet.
I agree that this SoP wasn't the absolute slam dunk PSVR 2 needs, but it was good. I wasn't expecting first-party games. I was hoping for more than 2 games, but both the ones they showed looked pretty great. And I'll disagree that games like Metro and Legendary Tales aren't really selling points for PSVR 2. Yes they're both coming to PC, and Metro is coming to Quest, but the PSVR 2 versions look like they'll be close to parity with the PC versions, and PSVR 2 is far more accessible than PC VR for most people. So the best balance between value and performance is clearly the PSVR 2 for both titles (unless the Quest 3 version of Metro looks miraculously good like Red Matter 2 on Quest 2).
I definitely think 2024 is a make-or-break year for PSVR 2, and Sony needs to show more support for it, but I don't understand the negative take around this particular event. I'll be far more concerned if Sony has a showcase somewhere from March to May and PSVR 2 doesn't have a big showing there.
Good post - 100% agree
Towards the end of this video matteo311 mentioned how he is done with sony not only cuz of this SoP, but also how constantly sony PR person didn't take matteo311 seriously , and how generally speaking Game studios have little interest in making / porting games for psvr2 (I personally some times work with Chinese vr studios , I have the same opinion as matteo311). VR gaming needs constant publishing , instead of , like , giving you 2-3 'AAA' titles each year. Cuz even AAA titles in VR can keep you interested for like , 1 week ? Maximum . The quest library at the moment is the only working situation . PSVR2 doesn't have enough games to keep most users busy 24/ 7 , and steamvr has a too long list of VR demos made by 1 solo dev who works in his garage .
You are being unrealistic if you expect all of PlayStation studios to work on VR games. Developing a AAA first-party VR game takes around 3-4 years. Currently, only two studios, FireSprite and Team Asobi, are dedicated to making VR games. However, we are still getting high-quality PS VR 2 games every month.
Who said all. Give us one
Call of the Mountain?
GT7
That's already two in the first year Matteo.
I discussed these games in depth. GT7 is a hybrid, you you don't know why that matters check my previous videos. Horizon is the only first party exclusive and its just good, not a reason to pick up the hardware@@xdjrunner
i responded to this multiple times. @@xdjrunner
@@Gamingwithmatteo311The highly anticipated next VR Astrobot will most likely be a hybrid game because of the positive reception of Astro’s Play Room. Will you hold Team Asobi to the same standard as GT7 if this turns out to be true?
I love my psvr2
Ignorance is bliss 😂
@@rushtoolman yup. Pcvr has the best fidelity I agree. Anyways, enjoy your Meta partially funded game (5 game partnership announced between Deep Silver and Meta)
People get so butt hurt about this😂
People are all like “I’m done with PSVR2!” Then an awesome game drops and they’re all like “PSVR2 IS AMAZING! I WAS WRONG!” Then the cycle repeats. Though I do completely understand peoples’ frustrations because for me personally, even though there are a lot of PSVR2 games, there’s only really a handful that I’m actually interested in, and I do wish there were more games that interest me specifically, but that doesn’t mean the hardware sucks, or that Sony is completely dropping the ball, just that the ecosystem needs to expand, and faster.
I play pavlov, breachers every day. Gt7 and now re4
If you only own PS5 the PSVR2 is a solid headset. Doesn’t nearly do as much as Quest but it’s solid for gaming. The frustration is Sony has IPs that would be incredible for VR. And they seem to have no interest Astrobots, Last of Us, Killzone, Spiderman, Returnal, GOW, Ratchet & Clank and push to upgrade the PSVR1 library.
The frustration is Sony knows they don't have the money to throw in a pit for those 7 games - what 10 million or more per game? They know it's impossible to get enough sales to justify not only the development cost but most importantly. Loss of compound interest by the dev teams that could be working on something more profitable.
A fleshed out full not experience Spider-Man Vr is a headset seller can’t convince me otherwise
It might sell headsets but most likely won't be profitable
Profits? Games sell consoles games sell headsets…it’s the same concept make good VR games you can’t get anywhere else like they do for consoles. Their mistake was going with call of the mountain at launch/bundle instead of a Spider-Man or Last of Us. Give those PSVR1 folks a reason to upgrade at launch and they didn’t do that.
@@trauma50disaster1 If Sony wasn't willing to take a loss on making VR games, they never should have released a headset. PSVR 2 will not sell without great games, and those great games are likely to require budgets larger than they can recoup. It's called a loss leader. You sell something for a loss (in this case a game, and even possibly the headset), knowing that by doing so you could make a profit later. In this case, the profit would be from other game sales (first and third party), having expanded the PSVR 2 player base by releasing system-selling software.
If Sony truly has cold feet after a single round of two titles (one of which was a port), then they really didn't have the commitment that the headset needed from the start, and again, they should've have released it.
Price is what kills vr for the casual consumer. Psvr2 has the graphics but the price is too high, the quest is affordable solution yet most of the games are not very impressive. Such a double edged sword. On a good note me and my wife gave our old quest 2 units to some friends who otherwise would have never gotten into vr and they love it!
Exactly
The reason to go with PSVR2 is because you want the quality of PC without the hassle.
But you still need to buy a ps5, you're still tethered, no backwards compatibility, no returns, so many less options in terms of hardware, games and mods. The pros don't out weigh the cons
And a cable
PSVR is such a limiting platform and will only ever offer a fraction of what is available to PCVR. Most games aren't designed around photorealism because they are targeting the large install base of the quest anyway. If you want the best buy PCVR if you want simplicity and ease of use buy quest, then you can always connect your quest to a PC later if you want a better experience.
Quality of PC without the games lol
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 so much of that is unreasonable and outright silly. i love your channel and how you express your opinions but i really think this comment is nick-picky. the whole point of the PSVR2 is that its connected to the PS5 and its better than the Q3 because of it , the wire is not a problem at all, Backwards compatibility is obviously not Sony's fault due to the controls of the psvr1 its understandable you cannot use them on psvr2 its all up to the devs. returns is a understandable con and so is modding, buying a Q3 over a psvr2 so you can return your games isn't really realistic point however i completely understand modding being a problem for some including myself just a bit sad that Into the radius doesnt support modding :(
I dont understand why sony doesnt make the headset usable on pc ?? I had a psvr 2, but once i finished/played the exclusives it was just gathering dust. I have a quest 3 as well as a beefy pc. I sold the psvr2 and i dont miss it at all. All the mods on pc means i can play loads of games.
PS VR 2 is an accessory used to sell more PS5 systems. There is less profit if you only use it for PC.
The connector is not one that exists on most PCs. It's a VR Port connector, those ports never took off and just exists on a small number of 10xx and 20xx series RTX cards...
Regardless, people should buy a Quest 3 if they want PCVR. The pancake lenses are just awesome as hell and make the small sweetspot on the PSVR2 look extra ridiculous.
@@JimmyNuisanceI'd take the smaller sweet spot over compression any day of the week. If I am going PCVR I want the best image quality possible - only can be done on a wired headset at the moment.
@@bigmakbm1enjoy the pimax dinner plate on your face then 😂
@@JackoFrenchtonDoggo I need to build up my neck muscles for that bad boy! The Varo looks to be the best for a reasonable price PCVR.
I love my PSVR2, it’s a great headset and has a lot of great games. Not all the games need to be exclusive to enjoy. Legendary Tales is a good example, an awesome pick to have on the roster of PSVR2 games! I don’t want JUST PSVR2 exclusives. I want as many games coming to the platform as possible.
I am not saying you are, but it sounds a bit like you are one of those meta paid influencers. I am not saying you are wrong (i as psvr2 owner have my worries too). In one your videos you claimed sales were going bad seeing Amazon sales. As far as i know in Europe you can only buy psvr2 by Sony them selves. In the Netherlands and Germany cant find it on Amazon itself or shops.
You start out this video that Metro isn t exclusive. That has to do with the vr industry as a whole. Quest, pvcr, psvr2, sales aren t that great. We need each other to keep vr alive. Stop bashing platforms. Start bashing when vr is big. Now it is al about preferences.
I do agree that certain developers won t develop for psvr2. But that is because the guys at quality control are asses. They complained at framedrops during a loading screens, but accept some Carnage broken games. As for state of play, during psvr1 showcases did not show much either. I do agree on that Sony should be more open. Give us some more release dates, announcements, a glimpse of the future. Then people can make up there minds if they should by psvr2. Remember we don t have to agreewith each other. But most importantly, every platform has pro s and con s, but for now we should promote each vr platform to keep vr as a whole a live.
I've covered all of these topics in previous videos.
Amazon numbers were US only comparisons.
I mention metro because people used it as fuel like, look psvr2 is awesome, nope it has the same games. Trust me I understand how the industry works and I elaborated on hows it more about the release quality which psvr2 tends to lack in.
I recommend the 2 previous videos for more content
You can buy PSVR2 in stores in Europe. I live in Norway and they're all over the place here. Same with the rest of scandinavia. Same in britain and france. Anywhere that sells PS5 will sell you PSVR2. You could only buy preorders directly from Sony, but the PSVR2 is in stores.
Amazon isn't really a european company and buying from them makes little sense in terms of warranties etc. Their statistics wouldn't make sense for Europe.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 My apologies. Did not know you were talking about us only. My mistake. But still means Europe is not included. Although i am afraid it won t be much better over here.
@@JimmyNuisance like i said, to my knowledge. But Germany and the Netherlands don t. Surprised about France. Six months a go they weren t in gameshops or big stores available.
@@JimmyNuisance and you are right about Amazon it is not big here. You can buy second hand or from a trader. Not ideal.
Not mad ! For the most part I agree. I just think Most gamers are gonna stick with flat screen gaming. Most gamers I know won't even give it a chance. I love VR, not going back to flat screen, I was never a hardcore gamer, so maybe I don't count.
It is just marketing and communication that is negative for psvr2. The games are coming and quality is there. What major game quest has had in last 12 months other than aw2 and ac nexus??? Compare psvr2 exclusives with quest games in last 12 months and there is no competition. What you are constantly criticizing is marketing and communication and if you saw sony state of play, there were 0 1st party studios in it. But yet there was two great psvr2 announcements. What that tells us is sony in general is staying quiet at the moment. For ps5 it is not as worrying as it is still doing well. For psvr2 it looks bad as the platform is yet to grow. Dont be too quick to dismiss. It is not even 1 year yet and we have a long way to go in this at minimum 5 year lifespan product unlike the 2 year quests
Yeah man, I just can't fathom the criticism after Sony's new headset has only been out for a year. 12 months! It's not even like they don't have new games coming out. 🤔
The big difference is that Meta has acquired VR studios who are woking on VR projects. Camouflaq is working on a Batman game and Downpour on Onward 2. We don't know what the actual projects the rest of Meta's studios are working on but we know that they are and hopefully some will be announced this year. Also Meta has stated (last year) that they are funding over 150 projects. So it is about communication. As a Meta Quest owner you know there are VR projects coming from the main source and they are heavily investing in the development in other studios projects. We do not know anything like that with Sony or its future plans.
@@boybrownvr6522yes but metas only stake in gaming is vr. Psvr2 is just a ps5 accessory,until vr sells more than flat gaming (wich will never happen) that's all the psvr will be.
2 teenage kids, 50 hour work week, gym 3x a week = hardly any time for anything! Thanks for bringing me all this Intel!!
Anytime. Thanks for the support
Sony dropped the ball so hard with VR its insane lol. literally the perfect hardware to support it but they just dont care...Oh well...Metro Awakening gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I didn’t buy a PS5 for the PSVR2. Only after I bought it and became curious did I go for it. I liked VR so much, I then bought a Quest 3.
I bought the psvr2 and it sat around until I got curious what the ps5 could do - so I went for it!
Wise decision
I bought the quest 3, than later on bought the ps5 just so I could buy the psvr2 (which I bought this year)
@@legendp2011 how are you enjoying the PSVR2? with all the hype around VR thanks to Apple Vision Pro, it's making both Quest 3 and PSVR2 seem like a deal. I'm thinking about getting the PSVR2, mostly for gaming and as I enjoy my PS5 so much.
@@malfunkt I have not played it that much due to work. however if you do decide to go for the psvr2. there are some things you should know.
1) the headset needs a top strap and counter weights, its badly balanced. (I recommend either the "2 Pack Combo PSVR2 Ultimate Comfort Kit 150 Gram (5 Oz)" from studioformcreative. or the "Globular Cluster
2) the audio solution is great if you like in ear phones. terrible if you don't.(headphones have issues with VR, I don't like shoving things into my ear canal). there are ways around this.
3) no mods for beat saber (main reason I bought my oculus rift vr headset back in the day. the quest has mods).
4) the lenses have a very small sweet spot. which is why a top strap is advised. with a top strap this isn't an issue, but you will need a top strap.
the psvr2 has some fantastic games. and the OLED is nice. however the Quest 3 with Elite battery strap is a much better thought out system. quest 3 has better comfort, wireless, much better lenses, fantasitc integrated audio, and larger games library.
I don't regret buying my psvr2. and I Love AAA graphics with cinematic stories. however if forced to pick. I would pick a quest 3 with the elite battery strap (and carry case) for most people.
BUT, buy the headset that makes you excited to use it. the PSVR2 is still great, just has some issues.
TLDR: Quest 3 with elite battery strap is a better headset, PSVR2 has better games
I just look at the first year of psvr and compare it to psvr 2… we forget but it’s awesome the amount of great games there already are for the platform.
You might be right, but the first year of PSVR was no slouch. We got Here They Lie (still one of my favourites on the platform), Resident Evil 7, Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, Statik, Eagle flight, Thumper, VR Worlds, Headmaster, Job Simulator, Battlezone, Paranormal Activity: The Lost Soul, Farpoint, Super Hot, Dirt Rally, Driveclub, The Solus Project, Raw Data, Rez Infinite, and Batman: Arkham VR. And Skyrim came out in month 13.
@@GreyMatterShades wow you have a good memory. I must play Here They Lie, I do still check the sales but never see that one pop up.
@@makegamemusic I might've looked it up... 👀
Yeah Here They Lie is great imo, at least if you like horror themed walking sims with some stealth elements. I think it had a demo in one of the PSVR digital demo "discs" so you could try it out. Also Wes from Virtual Strangers does a full playthrough every year in October, so you could check that out to see if you like the vibe of the game.
And yeah it doesn't go on sale very often. I had to wait for quite a while for it. It did get a physical release though, so you might be able to track down a cheap physical copy.
@@GreyMatterShades ah, good shout. For some reason I never thought it had a physical release. Yes, a tenner on eBay. Will get it now! Thank you.
@@makegamemusic Nice! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
If you expected 1st party announcements at a state of play, you are mistaken. Having said that, sony NEED to do something at the next showcase.
They didn't show anything during game awards or summer games fest either... So what's left? Gamescom? Sony don't care. EGX? PAX? Comicon? Do they have a pirate radio station somewhere that broadcasts random announcements? Should we look for coded messages in phone books?
@JimmyNuisance I said. Their own showcases are different from state of plays. That's where they show off new 1st party titles as it has the biggest reach. That's exactly where they should be targeting imo. It remains to be seen whether they will show anything substantial vr related though. The rumblings of twisted metal, astrobot, killzone and wipeout have been going on for a while now so we'll see.
@@scallysays They had one of those showcases during games week last year, and it was really crappy. It was the first big show they had since 2019 and it was just pure shit... If June of this year has the same pathetic showing I'm gonna call this headset dead.
I would kill a smurf to get Twisted Metal on PSVR2.. WipEout as well.
Only thing we kinda know for sure is Ace Combat 8 is getting PSVR2 support. That's gonna be pretty sweet. Only reason I'm still holding on to this headset (aside from GT7 which I love.)
@JimmyNuisance nah they had a couple of great shows in 2020 and an okay one in 2021. The one last year was the first one since psvr2 released and like you said, it was crappy. All around not just psvr2. We can only hope that they turn things around this year as it's not too late but they're almost out of time.
Sony reveals 1st party games at their showcases. State of Play’s are used to market 3rd party games like Hogwarts Legacy.
I hate how right you are lol. I bought the PSVR2 so excited for what Sony would bring to the VR scene and despite the many great experiences I’ve had with it they still continue to put a bad taste in my mouth with the way they treat the headset. Waiting for a miracle to happen and then release a god of war game and Astro bot but really seems like they have no interest in trying to make the headset succeed
Glad one VR content creator finally said this. This was a truly pathethic VR showcase. Sony could not even bother even showing indie game VR ports to PSVr2 this year. And man the second VR game they showed is a indie 4 player dungeon crawler game that will be......$55. Thats a insane price for what the game is.
No return policy also means that once you pay those 55 bucks, there's no going back. Game sucks? Too bad. Game is buggy AF? Too bad. 55 bucks in the trash.
Experience tells me the legendary tales will be bad on PSVR2. Devs won't spend time polishing a game for like a potential userbase of 3000 people on the PSVR2...
I bought PSVR & PSVR2 specifically for Resident Evil so I already got my money's worth. Anything extra is icing on the cake so I'm totally happy with it. I understand if others don't feel the same. edit: I should have also mentioned that I own roughly 52 PSVR games and 48 PSVR2 games.
I can understand this but its hard for most people to justify a $550 to $1100 purchase for 2 games.
You got
No Man's Sky
Gran Turismo 7
Assassin's Creed Nexus
Don't let these dudes deter you from a fun time, all they are focused on are to get you to BUY!
@@xdjrunnergt7 is the only exclusive. I think you’re not logically thinking like we are.
I could play no man’s sky in vr on my pc. I also have way better sim racers on my pc for vr.
The only thing that Sony has is re4 and re8, past that, nothing is truly making a good impression for spending 1100 bucks.
I bought PSvr2 thinking “re7 should get redone along with a few other great PSVR games” yet nothing has been ported yet, nor has anything else coming really made a compelling reason to even buy the PSVR2
@@JamesCook76131 Lots of people don't have powerful enough gaming PC's to play VR at PS5/PSVR 2 levels of fidelity. For them, it doesn't matter if a game is also on PC, as getting a PS5 and PSVR 2 is probably going to be cheaper than upgrading their PC and buying a PC VR headset. Clearly you're not in that situation, so of course it makes more sense for you to go with PC VR.
As for PSVR 1 games getting ported, I think over 50 have been so far, just nothing from Sony (and I don't think they'll do any).
I never had a psvr. Psvr2 is my first and only vr headset. I plan on getting meta quest 3 this year. I have 38 games for my psvr2 currently. I love VR games, addicted even…
The PSVR 1 was my first headset, the first VR game I played was the Resident Evil 7 Demo were you were tied to a chair in a eerie dark room, and a head comes rolling across the floor. I WAS HOOKED, and Ive been playing VR ever since. I now have a Quest 2, and Quest 3. Sony let me down in October of 2020 the month before the PS 5 release, and they made the comment that they were not concerned about a VR head set for the PS 5, and that they may develop one in the next few years, there main concern was next Gen flat screen games for there PS 5. One of the head people of Sony U.S.A even made a video announcement about this. I think this alone shows there comment to VR. Sorry to rant a little, but I do hope you have a great day. See you in your next video.
I also remember this, I was a PSVR player and knew I wouldn't be a PSVR2 customer as I had no ambition to buy a PS5 then buy a VR2 for 700 bux more. But I was pretty disappointed when they basically abandoned the PSvR players when the PS5 came out.
Same,That tied to chair thing scary as lol
Agreed, sony's silence is deafening
Silencing the fanboys, even?
The fact people think it is fine tells me nothing will change.
As always, thanks for the honesty.
Remember during the PS2 era, where Sony pumped out multiple first party games PER GENRE per year?
Back then you could make a AAA game for $25 mil. Nowadays it's $500 mil. So naturally, less games.
@@PutlerHuyIo But do you NEED to make a game that expensive? It seems like we gravitate more and more towards gigantic AAAs as the sole product of large game makers.
Why not more AAs with smaller budgets again?
@@xXYannuschXx I totally agree with that. I think Sony is starting to realize how unsustainable their business model is getting too. I mean, it's possible that they'll wind up with ONE new game from Naughty Dog for this ENTIRE GENERATION. Their AAA games are costing too much and taking too long. The only reason they've been able to get away with it so far is that they haven't had a total flop, and they're plugging the holes in their release schedule with third-party partnerships.
And at the end of the day, people would probably be fine with games that didn't look quite as good (but played great), and weren't quite as long. Or they could release more modest length games, then bolster them with multiple expansions. Like if Ghost of Tsushima was half the length (and a lower price), then got multiple paid expansions like Iki Island. It'd keep up a better release cadence, and Sony could focus post-release resources on the games which performed best.
They've gotta change something up though. I have a feeling that Factions isn't going to be their only live service gamble to get cancelled before it even launches.
I think Sony gave you their catch-all answer to future releases because they want to keep any announcements in their own press rotations. otherwise you get stuff like... Metro Awakening leaking, so maybe it's a way to mitigate crap like that.
They probably just didn't want to tell you "Are you nuts! We only have like 4 VR games coming out this year. We need to drip-feed these releases tactfully in our 'State of Plays!'"
Anytime you deal with pr it's embargoed. So I still release at the same time, I just have extra time to prepare. I'm not asking for scoop just weekly or monthly release dates
PSVR2 users should be thanking Meta for Metro VR. This is likely 1 of the 5 titles Meta announced they partnered with Deep Silver on creating
The issue i have is to this day and multiple quest later and theres only just now 1 exclusive with asgard's wrath and one could argue re4 but as you said re4remake doesnt count so to shouldnt re4 on quest for the same reasons. So that said why its it fine that the quest has just 1 must own game years later and the psvr2 isnt a year old and everyone is expecting 20+ exclusives? Dont get me wrong i want sony to do more but also see that all vr headsets have no real must owns besides 1 or 2.
Love it or not, Asscreed is also a Quest exclusive.
All the good shooters are also on Quest and won't be coming to PSVR2.. Onward is a Meta studio, and contractors don't care about PSVR2 because you can't really do mods on the PSVR2 so it would have had to be a completely different client. Same holds true for Pavlov which is why the PSVR2 version of Pavlov is totally gimped compared to the PCVR version.
@@JimmyNuisance the studio behind contractors is making a new game which is coming to psvr2, assassins creed is exclusive so I'll give you that but I'd bet it's only a timed exclusive. Even when loading up the game it mentions about registering to show what vr headset you're using not what quest or no reason for that message at all for an exclusive, but time will tell. You named games but only 1 was a first party exclusive but isn't in anyway a system seller. The video was about how Sony doesn't have first party and asgards wrath is really the only exclusive on quest worth talking about and buying. I have multiple vr headset including a quest 3 and psvr2 so I'm not trying to bash but find it odd that occulus is given a free pass being on their 4th headset and really only a handful of exclusives but again psvr2 has basically a year and people expect 20+ exclusives. Yes Sony needs to do more fully agree but I'd say they're putting out exclusives at a faster rate then oculus does.
Exclusivity is a thing of the past
@@eli2955 exclusives are what sells hardware. Always been the case and always will be the case. If it wasn't and a thing of the past then everyone would just be a pc gamer but the fact pc isn't anywhere near as big as consoles proves exclusives are what sells.
Its VERY obvious sony has ZERO idea what to do with it right now and are just seeing how things go
Not sure the VR market can deal with too many exclusives at this point. We're much better off with things being multiplatform with the size of the player base. Devs need to eat.
exclusives would need to be platform funded like asgard 2 and horizon. devs will be fine. The need for exclusives is to drive users to the platform otherwise it won't grow
Ratchet and clank vr would be a no brainer
PSVR2 on twitter: Thanks for including us in your video!
I completely understand the frustration working with a PR connection that gives you nothing. Very frustrating. I'm sure that Sony is watching videos like this, and hopefully they understand that they have to improve.
Was the PSVR1 better after a year? I feel like it also slowed down.
PSVR1 was going strong for 3 years or so before it slowed down. WipEout and Astro Bot came out in 2017 and 2018. Two of the best games on the platform.
First year was also better. And that was during an era where VR as a whole was new. Right now, PSVR2 is getting quest and PC ports from the last 8 years of VR. That's what's keeping it afloat.
@@JimmyNuisance psvr2 got gt7 resident evil 4 remake and village vr horizon call of mountain in one year witch are stronger than the titles you mentioned for psvr1, their is no deny that psvr2 got the strongest games last year for vr, quality over quanity
PSVR1 at least every AAA developer made an attempt to make a game for it. PSVR2 it has been a couple of AAA developers and nothing but terrible indie stuff. The variety isn't there either.
Yeah, I haven't seen a reason to buy a PS5 or a PSVR2. I can basically play everything (VR and flat screen) in the PS ecosystem on my PC.
One thing I really dislike is the lack of backwards compatibility. If they wanted to make it work they definitely could have, it’s only their to motivate devs to update their games to psvr2.
As someone that invested in meta quest 3 and pcvr I’m glad the psvr isn’t anything special because I don’t feel like I’m missing anything by not having it lol
Sadly, you're right. At this point, you really aren't missing anything.
😢😢😢 I'm losing hope with every passing week that they'll prove you wrong. I love what we've got, but there's room for improvement and Sony isn't capitalizing on it.
PSVR2 : Hasn't been out for 1 year; 30+ new games.
Quest 2 : Been out for 3 Years.
I hope that math answers your question.
@@xdjrunner I didn't ask a question
Stop making excuses for a company’s lack of support for their own Hardware. They are not doing enough to sell their merchandise. As a result PSVR2 will Fail!
Honestly, it's just Resident Evil 4 remake and Village in VR and that's it for me.
That's exactly how I feel too.
You should actually check out a few lesser indie psvr2 games. Here’s a few gems
Light brigade
Saints & sinners 1 &2
Runner vr
Zombie land
Thumper
Moss
And a fair few other really fun games available. I’d prefer more AAA but it is what it is, unfortunately.
@@grahamkelly8662 Those seem like some fun games, but none of them are PSVR2 exclusives. The point I was making and the point that I think that Rodney was making is that the only PSVR2 exclusives that are very good are RE4 Remake VR and RE8 VR.
@@onehitkill8895 oh, I get ya. Just as you didn’t mention exclusive games, I just thought you meant good game, in general . Oh I don’t suppose you’ve played after the fall complete edition on psvr2? If so, is it doable alone? I hear some say it’s too punishing alone and others say it’s doable. The game is half price on ps store at £12.49 and I’m tempted to buy. Because I get really bad motion sickness, I decided to buy most games in sale and that way, if motion sickness is so bad, that I can’t play, at least I got game at discounted price.
I mean I like shooters and I like zombies but I don’t like super punishing games. Especially when playing alone and can’t progress.
Gran Turismo 7 would like a word with you
I think you are biased towards the quest, I don’t think you are a bad influencer, and maybe you are right about the reason you are posting this, but I wonder, why didn’t you cover anything or almost anything about the great games the PSVR2 just got, like RE4 or vertigo2, is obvious Sony paid capcom to bring one of those games to the system. Well, as I said, I don’t think you really mean that you are behind VR in all, I think you are biased for the quest. My two cents.
I covered vertigo 2 months ago when it released on PC. Unfortunately the PSVR2 version came much later, received multiple delays which threw off my schedule and just wasn't nearly as polished as the PC version. Am I pc biased now?
I didn't get early access to RE4 and had other obligations lined up at that time.
I've been called biased for every company including the PSVR2. Go check out my early coverage when it was released. I was called a sony fanboy back then. I call it like it is, when you deserve praise, you get it
@MrVmporras1, Verigo 2 came to PC VR months ago. He covered it back then. What would he say in addition to what he already said when he first covered it. There seems to be no PS exclusive content, so the only thing left to talk about is if it's on par with the PC version.
I will surely be playing this on my Crystal
There simply aren't enough VR players, so far as Sony seems concerned, to warrant focusing their energy on the PSVR2--and that frankly seems to be the attitude of everyone but Meta and (possibly) Apple, and more than one developer has said as much.
Hoping that Apple's expansion into... er, Spatial Computing... will light a fire under Sony, since word is that Meta's Quest 3 is seeing increased sales since the Vision Pro came out; but honestly, I'm beginning to wonder about what's going on with Sony behind the scenes, re., their in interest in gaming for VR.
Meanwhile, my PSVR2 is quietly waiting... and gathering dust.
But there won't be any player growth if they don't bring out THE GAMES
So why did they create it in the 1st place? Idk, things just don't add up
Very True
Why are all you people gathering dust on your PSVR2's? Put it in the box like I do
My PSVR2 has been collecting dust since I got the Quest 3, I have even purchased the BOBOVR phones but I havent even connected them to try. So bad. GIVE US NEW GAMES & MAKE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH ALL PSVR GAMES.
I love that we are getting a ton of horror games for the PSVR2. I'm a fan of these games. Really looking forward to Madison this Weekend!🔥
Bro, before launch I thought if someone is gonna push VR into masses, it's gonna be Sony with PSVR2, just like they did with PSVR.
But they straight up refuse to do anything with it apart from a couple of exclusives.
It baffles and saddens me.
They should release all the PS3 3D games from the 2010's, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 etc. in 1080p 3D. That would be killer. I'd buy it for that alone. There's SO much they could do, Make it compatible with 3D Bluray.
When Sony updated with PC support, they gave up as well. Bleeding out inventory to make the loss less bad.
Matteo, your channel is my go to for VR news. I subscribe to only a handful of channels and yours is one of them. Im subscribed because you keep it real. Dont go changing because of a bunch of fanboys or simple minded people giving you bullshit. Its hard to find content creators that dont sell out. Just continue to state your true opinions and/or feelings.
Thanks
1:56 Isn't multi platform what we all are aiming for?
That's what I'm saying. Exclusives kill the industry. I've noticed Sony's exclusives never roped me in enough to buy a PS5 and a PSVR2. Only reason I got the VR1 was because I already had a PS4. But I've always been jealous of Quest2 players and PCVR players because they get all the cool games. Not to mention thumbsticks. LoL
I'm a happy Quest 3 owner now and looking into an affordable gaming PC next.
No tf , are u in VR ? We want real rpgs. if it's gonna be a platform game it has to be big and adventurous not repetitive and soulless
Exclusivity is a thing of the past.
Somebody from Sony did my boy dirty
Lol
The original psvr was extraordinarily good at introducing a typical console gamer into vr. When I first got it, shortly after release, I didn't have the move controllers, but most games was made for the ps4 controller, so it really felt like gateway drug into vr with the ps4 gamer in mind 😆.
I don't see psvr2 doing any of that. They would come a long way if they just ported over all the old psvr games with slightly updated textures and resolution. Then they could release some of their exclusives with "vr support". Those things would still be really lazy and a bad excuse for releasing a brand new hmd, but it would at least give people some hope that they care, and they would give their customers something to do.
I totally agree. I have a quest 3 also. Quest is killing it has constant updates to improve the experience, update after update all the time. Loads of great none gaming vr options too. Sony has a great bit of kit no one can argue with that. But wheres half life, god of war, a huge Skyrim type game etc using the incredible PSVR features. No man's sky open world is incredible so it can definitely be done.
a new astrobot would of went a long way for me
Psvr1 is still something I use till this day. I cannot understand how Sony will not release something like blood and truth 2 . Psvr2 is Such a good headset but I fear the lack of sales will be the death of it.
I totally agree with the vid and can’t believe I spend $600 on it.
Your my favourite vr channel and Sony are blind. It happened when they lost the PS3 release and it's happening now. Keep up the good work and hopefully ps will understand what you're doing for the industry
It's over, Sony is just riding Meta's coattails. As for Legendary Tales, it hasn't been updated in 2 years and they raised the price from 30 to 55 so people are upset at the dev.
Well the new update is finally here next week
Matteo always reminds me of my wife's awesome Portuguese family from Rhode Island. He even talks like them. :) Matteo, your last mane wouldn't happen to be Ferreira, would it? LOL
Lol no.
You're right. Metro isnt bad thst its coming. But we need spiderman vr, we need gta6 vr, we need last of us part 3 vr, mlb 2025 vr. They need to saturate the market with good games.
I don't have a PlayStation so I don't have a dog in the hunt, but I have been saying this for a long time with Quest is that VR development is hard and takes time. However, this is a problem with a closed eco system. This will be an issue for Apple as well. Quest may not be the best headset 2 or 3, but there is an edge with its ability to do PCVR, it has its own store and you can sidequest games and apps as well. Meta also has been good with continuous and regular updates for the headset and finally produced games like Assassin's Creed and Asgard's Wraith II. I also have a bunch of other games like Demeo, Dungeons of Eternity, and Beat Saber just to name a few that continue to develop their original game and add content.
I own both PSVR2 and a Quest 3. I honestly put in more time on Q3 for my VR needs. I love both tho.
I just love reading these comments 😂 the sony bros get so mad. No need to get so upset
Absolutely agree on your opinion on PSVR2. Still using my Quest and love possible content. Allthough I saw some titles on PSVR2 and tried them and still think that PSVR2 gives more of that gaming expierence and can bring VR in to the same level as consuming flatscreen games and become more mainstream. But for now, if same software is releasing on multiple platforms, i would still be using quest for portability, wireless and versitility reasons!
I swear Sony’s system seller is literally Spider-Man VR. They own the IP, they have the funds, and it’s everyone’s dream, but they keep ignoring it!
Seems like the same thing they did with VR1. Some really cool titles at first, but not much support over time. This thing really should've been able to play VR1 games. Unfortunately, NO VR headset works for me at the moment because I can't deal with the bulk and weight. I look forward to the future of VR/AR where we can just put on a pair of glasses.
Dungeon of Eternity with friends is why Quest3 is winning.
I’m so glad that I decided to spend last year’s bonus on an M2 MacBook Air instead of the PS5+PSVR2 combo I was eyeing. This year, I decided to go with a Quest 3, and it has been a super great experience. I really feel like I dodged a bullet last year. Sure, the hardware looks amazing, and the graphics are undeniably awesome, but they really have needed to expand that library. I have so many games on my Quest that there’s still like 7 of them that I have paid good money for that I haven’t even been able to get around to playing yet! And I’ve only played Assassin’s Creed ONE TIME - and it’s the reason I bought the Q3 to begin with!
If the Quest 3 came out reasonably close in time to the release of the PS VR2, I would have bought the Quest 3 instead. I loved the Sony experience enough to take a risk on it and don't regret the purchase. If VR is turned on for Sony exclusives, it will be a financial win for Sony on both consoles and headset sales.
So you missed out on the psvr2 because that lack of games even though there is 140 games and you buy a quest 3 and don’t even have the time to play all the games, I got a quest two but the graphics and sounds sound so shit on a standalone vr even if you play psVr2 everyday for 2 hours, you’re not gonna run out of content unless your a teenage with no job and can sit around all day playing Vr
@@marcellbeckford3955 I’m pretty happy with the way things went down. If I would have bought the PS5+PSVR2, I’d still have had to have bought the Quest 3 for Assassin’s Creed (my favorite series) and Asgard’s Wrath 2.
Sadly, you are 100% right :( I do wish the best for PSVR2!
My question to this UA-camr is why isn't the same question being asked about Meta or PCVR(VR industrt as a whole)? The truth is VR isn't a big enough market because most people are simply not interested in it. That's just the truth that we and Sony have to all acknowledge and accept.
just the lack of marketing push from day one shows that sony sent this out to die, they dont care, its not going to make them big money.
Psvr was my first hmd back in 2017. The only other option then was pcvr. I had a ps4 and my CP wasn't amazing, so it was an easy choice. Console vs pc split gamers apart with different preferences, and early vr was following that pattern. It almost seems like Sony completely missed the fact that both those vr platform were eaten up by the quest platform, and they just thought they could make a lazy psvr2 release, reel in all the console/vr fans and then it's just business as usual. But, it seems like a lot of people who fell in love with vr thanks to psvr, moved on a few years later to quest 2, because you could suddenly play both standalone and wireless pcvr. Those who wasn't completely convinced, moved on from vr entirely.
So, what's left is pretty much a nonexistent market of a few people who already own a ps5, loves vr and doesn't own a hmd. Now, of I put myself in that position, I still can't see a reason to buy a wired hmd with fresnel lenses, outdated specs and with a tiny games library that won't even include the 40+ games I already bought on psvr back in the day. A quest 3 seems like a much better investment on all fronts 🤷♂️.
It's sad but true
The sad part about all this, Sony had the opportunity to be what Apple has become for vr and could have done some amazing things and hyped vr in the mainstream. Sony slept on it, now they are watching Apple Vision hype, if anything it might reinvigorate them to make it a priority. Unfortunately sony fumbled with some amazing hardware.
its why i prefer you the most for psvr2. Your the only one that sees it how I do.
They don’t usually make new first party announcements at their State of Plays. PSVR2 isn’t even a year old and it’s got an incredible catalogue of games and I’m afraid your overall take on this, I find intellectually dishonest. It’s you who doesn’t care about PSVR2.
Your opinion here is the exception not the norm. There is also a lot more to the convo in the previous 2 videos. As far as announcements, that's not really true
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 even if my opinion in your space is the exception, I don’t see how this is relevant. I have Quest 3 and PSVR2 and enjoy both and it’s odd to me that following an awesome announcement like Metro you’d be making a video like this solely about PSVR2. And my point about their state of plays is right if you look back through recent history. However if we have a showcase in Summer that doesn’t reveal any first party VR titles, then yeah maybe that would be the time to be worried. But that ain’t gonna happen and it’s likely we’ll get the Astrobot 2 reveal. That’s my take on it though it might got the likes and clicks that the negative takes on PSVR2 do. This is an exciting time for all VR, we shouldn’t be pushing down one of the platforms just for clicks. I’ll see ya later.
Keep in mind legendary tales has been on pc in early access, this is the official release. Sony doesn’t allow early access on their platform
Full release is dropping on pc at the same time.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311I’m aware. That wasn’t the point though. You said this was a game available on the PC already, but I’m pointing out that it wasn’t the full version. There’s nothing wrong with multi platform games on the psvr2, especially when they tend to be the best versions of the games.
I do want to hear more from Sony about first party titles though don’t get me wrong, but I don’t feel as doom and gloom about the system as you seem to.
@TylerSampson51 I've discussed how the lack of non hybrid exclusives is leading significantly limiting sales of the psvr2, in other videos. When it comes to psvr2 releases being the best, that ship has sailed. With such a low install base devs aren't making any money so the are giving psvr2 less attention and games are launching in the worst state of all vr platforms
If you look at the word in mainstream gaming news, everyone feels the same way about Sony overall. It’s definitely not just VR, they have been really quiet. They don’t speak or promote shit anymore. I seen one tweet regarding the state of play as “it seems like Sony is just calling it in now, no hype, no promotion”. By comparison it sucks because Meta nothing but promote VR so we expect the same amount of Sony but Jim Ryan set in an interview that they don’t even have to promote their products anymore because they just sell. If VR didn’t matter to them, they would stop showing it on the big stage. I think the events that will have exclusives are still to come. Sony has numerous gaming events a year, Meta only has one and they condense it all down into one stellar event. If we got one Sony VR Event last year and it was loaded with all of the exclusives we got last year I think the perception would be different. Considering the fact that you have to buy a PlayStation 5, and that it’s doing better than its predecessor which was the second best selling headset ever said that it’s doing pretty good. It was never going to do Quest numbers. I failed to agree with the idea that it’s failing to deliver games. While I always seem to be on the side of Sony here, I do agree that Meta Is a way safer platform to be on and I even think that it’s a better headset for new VR users. The pancake lenses are so crystal clear. I just don’t see what you see. If you compare it to what Meta has delivered in the past year, I don’t understand how people aren’t saying the same thing about Meta. The only difference is that Meta truly gives a shit and it shows. But even though Sonys promotion is shit, it doesn’t take away from the fact that we got some of the best VR games of all time on the PSVR2. RE4, Village, GT7, Vertigo 2 on PC, Asgards Wrath 2 and even AC Nexus to some extent all rank among the best VR games we’ve ever seen. I failed to see how people are complaining about this considering the lack of support we’ve seen in the VR industry since 2020
Sony weren't going to make the PSVR 2, but then Quest came out and sold a ton, and they changed their minds.
Watching state of play i almost for a moment thought the metro game was exclusive and i was like awwh man here it is but then i saw it was multi plat and was very stoked, haven't regretted buying the quest 3 at all!
As always I have been thinking last years, You are a true gamer. No matter what, I respect you and support you. Warm Regards, BJ
I, as a Quest 2 owner, was expecting a timed exclusive for Metro.
I personally have almost no desire to play a game type that works best on a flat screen... in VR. Maybe there just aren't too many more ideas for things that can ONLY be done in VR.
Flat screen will always work much better than the same game in VR. At some point, graphics, processing and storage on a VR set might be good enough to match what we have now in flat screen. When you get into VR, having the ability to move a view by turning your head is very cool, though. Having controllers that are closer to the real world than a game controller is also cool. I like flat-screen and VR games for different reasons. VR is much more immersive, even if the graphics aren't quite as good.
Don't know about that. Re8 and 8 and gt7 are far superior in vr for me.
I love your channel! I hate this for psvr2. I bought day 1 and tried to hold out hope but it is what it is. Oh well. I almost feel like this could be fixed if Sony just sunk some money into it, I mean that’s what you do if you put out a new product is invest in it. Why did they even put it out if they didn’t want to invest?
Great video Matteo, You are 100% right and it's sad that there are people out there in the VR community who are in denial about this. I was waiting for Sony to announce something before Christmas like a Astro Bot remake at the very least and we got absolutely nothing from them at all. I can see it getting a pretty big price drop this year, That will most likely spell the end of the PSVR2 as a viable headset unless they announce some first party games finally.
I love VR in general, Why isn't there any apps on PSVR2 at all compared to other headsets? Why don't we have a dedicated dashboard for PSVR2 on PS5? Why can't we buy extra controllers? Why are we still seeing games running at 60/120? The list goes on.
I'll still continue to play my PSVR2 and spend money on games, As long as they are good quality ports and or 1st party games. /waits to be called a meta shill by my mate on here 🤣🤣
I was one of the earliest adopters of the first PSP in Australia, having imported it from Japan on launch. Slowly, but surely, Sony was losing interest in supporting it as time went on. Basically, I'm getting the same abandonment vibes for the PSVR2 as was the case for the PSP hardware line. A shame, VR as a whole needs competition, innovation, and definitely 1st party support.
I often read that Jim Ryan wanted to kill PSVR2 back in 2019 but wasn't allowed to. So that could explain why there is no backwards compatibility, possibly not that many 1st party titles (if any) in the pipeline etc. I don't know if that is true and I honestly always liked Jim Ryan, but maybe his departure and the new japanese leader will boost PSVR2. Fingers crossed.
What's also to consider are the last 2-3 years with supply constraints, the ABK deal, that's a lot to deal with for Sony.
How many vr games are coming out for the $3,500 Apple Vision Pro?
what's the price of eggs in china? dude are you 12 yo?
@trauma50disaster1 he asked a valid question.
According to your name, you came here to hate?
Apple is not marketing it as a gaming device and it does all the things that it advertises
Its not a gaming system
Apple isn't even marketing it as a gaming device yet its getting more support than psvr 2 right now
YESSS!!!! The onyl person that proves the point ive argued with many. THere were ZERO psvr2 exclusive games shown, sony showed things they were excited for over the next year. For them not to show ANYTHING is troubling. People argue with me about metro, and how its better that its multiplat. And I get that sentiment and actually agree. But this was a PS showcase and a HUGE chance for sony to show we were all wrong about psvr2 and they DID NOT. Thats telling
Love my psvr2 , and I only bought it for gt7 on it most nights
The reprojection and frame persistence is my biggest barrier. I started vr with the quest 2 using it mostly for pcvr. I got the psvr2 day 1 and to this day I still get a headache after an hour in reprojection games. Add to that one too many games that run at a low res with disappointing graphics on top of having performance issues and no eye tracked foveated rendering like why did you even port this shit. Love my Quest 3 right now. Sony can announce a thousand vr games this year and I won't care if these core issues aren't addressed.
You remember that metro like pcvr game that was on steam ? Maybe this is why the developers came after that studio so hard so they didn’t have to worry that the off brand metro vr could have been possibly better than the now announced official metro vr.
100%
If they bring out ports of famous ps5 games like GOW ragnarok or remaster old psvr1 games, the headset would be in a better place. I love my psvr2 and you have to admit, it is the most advanced tech vr headset out.
It would be the most advanced if it was a Wireless Headset.
where there is no quick $ there is no $ony support. Ive sold my psvr2 6 months ago (bought used one for 3/4 of price). Played gt7, resi 8, horizon, no mans sky, saints and sinners, star wars tales from galaxy edge and after 2 months of use sold psvr 2 along with my ps5 ( also bought used) just to play psvr2. Now I am on pcvr with quest 3 and I am happy. I am not hiding my feelings towards $ony. I was with products of this company since walkman then ps1,ps2, psp, ps3, ps vita, ps4 psvr1. since ps5 I realy started to hate this greedy corp. And no matter what I will never back to buying $ony crap again. Now it is only pure hate. Right now Ive got my old ps1,2,3 with collection of old games Ive sold even ps4 with all games. I am not going to pay for ability to play online, overpriced games and stupid overpriced accesories and so on. $ony is dead to me. Buying ps5 it is like buying overpriced decoder, and to use it in full potential u have to buy subscription and on top of that overpriced software. ure paying game for 80$ and without ps+ subscription u cannot even use online features of the game that uve bought for full price 😂 talking about prices in psstore.... How it is possible that phisycal copies in stores are cheaper than digital ones in psstore? 😂 $ony really need to fall down to learn some lessons. And if players wont stop buying every crap from this corp $ony will never change. Vote with your wallet guys or forever be f in the ass. Lately $ony released ps5 slim. Why? because Ps5 fat prices at last dropped after 3 years. So $ony had to increase prices of their "new" slim console before they release ps5 pro for crazy amount of $ even though in the past slim versions of $ony consoles were cheaper than original Fat ones. ps portal... I do not want to even talk about this cash grab...😂 stands for 30$ and other stupid stuff. As u can see I am not from USA cause of my poor english. I am from Europe Poland to be exact and here we pay much more than customers in USA due to extra taxes and currency exchange rates. I know it is not fault of $ony but politicians but u have to think twice nowdays before u decide to spend some money. For me buing used stuff in good condition it is the name of the game ;) and quick selling it without a loss if there is smth that I do not like about product I have bought or I feel like smth like psvr2 2 does not have bright future.
Mans listed several games... Proceeds to complain.
Sums up this comments section!
@@xdjrunner I've listed every title worth anything on psvr 2 and it is about less than 10. And to be true only 3 titles are brilliant and exclu for psvr 2. resi 8,4 and gt7 (horizon maybe it is exclu but it is nth special) That is pitiful. Having quest 3 and pcvr Ive got 100+ vr games that are worth smth + tons of great community mods. Lately released enreal engine vr mod making every ue game into vr. Both options pcvr and standalone. Return policy of games. F $ony. Most of the titles I have bought used gt 7, star wars, resi 8, star wars, horizon demo it was enough, saints free update cause i bought tourist edition when I had psvr1. so I,ve finished every psvr2 title worth anything and sold it along with psvr2 and ps5 console that I also bought used. Just to be sure that $ony wont get any of my $ anymore. And I am proud of it.
As soon as sony announced no backwards compatibility and I saw the price and that they wouldn't be selling the hardware at a discount, I knew it wasnt a product they really believed in, seems like the decisions makers at Sony were divided, one side wanted to produce the psvr2 for the existing psvr fanbase and the other side that reluctantly agreed to produce the hardware but with the caveat that Sony would not be spending any money to support it or grow it, there is just 0 commitment to the hardware by sony, they werent willing to sell it at cost or a discount to grow the market nor were they willing to appease owners of psvr1 by allowing backwards compatibility and finally they appear totally unwilling to put any first party resources into the platform.
I'm amazed people expect any different after the Vita. Sony has made it abundantly clear that their strategy for weak hardware sales is "take the money and run".
I just want Astrobot 2. The only reason I still have my PSVR 1 is for that game.
I was going to buy it. The preorders could only come from ordering directly from Sony. Never bought it because of that. It is so important how you come out the gate. I cannot be the only person who would have ordered it if I could have ordered the thing from Amazon.
Spot on m8, I was thinking the same myself.
You should just talk about less cabsble Quest. Here at PSVR2 we just want positive peeps.
The state of play was great, granted I love flat top games AND VR games. I enjoy a multitude of games. My guess as to how sony is going to handle the PSVR 2. I can't imagine them investing the time and money to create the headset and not support it enough. Only issue is that with their first party developers I also couldn't imagine sony having them create VR titles considering majority of gamers are flat top players. Hopefully Sony has some games in the works, still hoping for an open world RPG VR game on the ps5. Loving Asgards Wrath 2 but visually would still love to play a game with some better graphical fidelity
Sony didn't even bother to add two extra buttons on each controller and write a driver to map the inputs so you could play PSVR1 games on PSVR2, do you really think they will make a lot of exclusives which takes considerably more money and effort?
At this point if you want to play VR just get a good PC or get a Quest as majority of PSVR2 games are bad Quest ports anyways.
VR Developers have it hard enough just making VR games. Making a PSVR2 game requires developing with a PC HMD that Sony doesn't provide, that alone is ridiculous, you'd think they would as part of the platform tooling recognise that the PSVR2 needs a PC Driver. The certification process and understanding the Sony Platform is a nightmare and consumes so much time that I think most developers that are not being subsidised don't see the value in investing in it. Certainly not if you have any prior experience with the cert process and if you've been paying attention to hardware sales numbers.