The Immorality of the U.S. Immigration System

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • A talk by Agustina Vergara Cid
    Opponents of immigration often say those who want to come to America should “get in line” and follow the law. But the U.S. immigration system sets legal immigrants up for failure, and penalizes the best people who want to make America their home. The system is profoundly unjust both for immigrants and for Americans as well. Agustina Vergara Cid, an ARI Junior Fellow, will relate a number of immigration stories (including her own) in the context of the legal landscape that generates these injustices.
    Recorded live at OCON 2023
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  • @robhaythorne4464
    @robhaythorne4464 Рік тому +6

    Perhaps if we ended the lavish US welfare system, the immigration problem would solve itself.

  • @melissalarson2569
    @melissalarson2569 Рік тому +4

    Every country must put their citizens first. That's why there are caps on work visas. Most people want to come here and work, while they live cheep as possible to send all the money they make back to their family's. Mean while they don't pay taxes. I'm not saying things don't need to be fixed but I really feel this lady don't understand why the laws are the way they are.

  • @daviddedick14
    @daviddedick14 Рік тому +24

    A passionate and powerful speech exposing tragic injustice that few are aware of. Thank you Augustina for your perseverance and bravery. I hope this speech starts a movement towards a free and just immigration system.

    • @joebrown6540
      @joebrown6540 Рік тому

      Hopefully your family doesn't make it here

    • @bideni408
      @bideni408 Рік тому

      "Ayn Rand Institute" using the word "inmoral".
      You, pro egenenics who supports the elimination of "defectuous" people before even they born or child genital mutilation as nataloty control tool.
      Calling US inmoral from tge inmigration policy, to the nation with the more migrants with difference, and not to Canada who rejects any migrants that dont bring wealth or high education to Canada (90%of migrants who acces to US).

    • @cadthunkin
      @cadthunkin Рік тому

      Note that a whole lot of people will still be rejected. I wonder if those asking for justice will then decide their justice is the right one.

  • @RandFanOne
    @RandFanOne Рік тому +4

    So let the U.S. permit all the people from the Third World, who are responsible for conditions there, come to America and create the same conditions here by voting once again for Socialism.
    Only a free country, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE, would offer protection against a flood of immigrants claiming free stuff at taxpayer expense, and the eagerness of these immigrants to vote away the last vestiges of our freedom.

  • @sybo59
    @sybo59 Рік тому +10

    I posted this elsewhere, but ARI should seriously consider paying to promote this video. It is powerful and has the potential to gain mainstream attention. Isn’t that one of the major goals here?

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 Рік тому

      And five months later this wonderful talk sits languishing at fewer than 3k views. Bang-up job, ARI.

  • @RogerFusselman
    @RogerFusselman Рік тому +10

    The vast majority of native-born US citizens never attempt a 40-minute public address on any topic. Here is an immigrant doing this, and doing this amazingly well. I am an American by birth and by conviction, and I endorse this message. Excellent job, Agustina!

    • @JohnMcAfee-se9ms
      @JohnMcAfee-se9ms 9 місяців тому

      Yes, most people don't do a 40 minute public address on a topic unless they are hired to do it for their career. This person was hired to speak for their career. It would be worrying if ARI was hiring and paying full time intellectuals and they didn't speak to the public.

  • @scarletpimpernel230
    @scarletpimpernel230 Рік тому +12

    What a great talk, that completely illustrates the issues confronting immigrants. Thank you, Augustina.

  • @topol6
    @topol6 Рік тому +9

    Cid, you're a true champion of liberty.

  • @CreativeCat333
    @CreativeCat333 Рік тому +6

    The US is a special case. Let's not forget that the majority of the so called America have a past where one or two of their parents immigrated as well.

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 Рік тому +3

      Not sure I get your point.

    • @CreativeCat333
      @CreativeCat333 Рік тому +1

      I'm an immigrant myself. I've been here for 9 YRS. Went to school, worked and always paid my taxes. This month I am out of work because my name didn't come out on the H1B lottery. Going to school involuntarily so I can keep working. No clear path to change status without slavery or marriage. Unfortunately.

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 Рік тому +3

      @@CreativeCat333 I see what you’re getting at now, thanks. That’s a terrible position to be in. Wishing you the best!

  • @1236612
    @1236612 Рік тому +9

    This whole reasoning is warped. The USA is not the only country on this planet? There are 194 other recognized countries. If the USA is so hard to enter, go somewhere else.

  • @eduardorpg64
    @eduardorpg64 Рік тому +2

    Amazing talk, Agustina. I went through similar things while I was in college in the US, since I'm a foreigners. A relative got his bachelor's degree, and he could not get a job, and had to immigrate somewhere else.
    People have no idea of the amount of BS that foreigners have to go through to "get in the line" to legally work and legally immigrate to the US.

  • @maritespagunsanlopez5688
    @maritespagunsanlopez5688 Рік тому +1

    I have admired the works of Ayn Rand for five decades and was delighted to discover your web site. Rand was unequivocal on the subject of the powers and scope of a proper government. Among other attributes it holds an exclusive monopoly on the use of force within its clearly defined physical borders. So, it is profoundly disappointing hear you advocate for the United States to become the only sovereign country in the world with, apparently, no borders! No legitimate controls over who has a right to be here! We are so fortunate to have been born or naturalized in the freest and noblest country in the world. American citizenship is our birthright--and you would rob it of any meaning. Do you not lock the doors of your home? Do you criticize Israel for protecting its borders against Hamas murderers? You advocate open borders in a welfare state? Are you insane?
    Can you really believe that Ayn Rand would agree with you? ☹

  • @shawnellemartineaux6212
    @shawnellemartineaux6212 Рік тому

    This! 100% THIS.

  • @melissalarson2569
    @melissalarson2569 Рік тому +1

    You are wrong to say immigrants taking up jobs don't matter. Any bussiness that wants an immigrant can start a job in a diffrent country if they dont like are laws. I feel like this lady just wants to complain about are government, then don't come here. Get a job and build your own country the way we have built America. We need to fix alot of are system but there is reasons we have laws even if you don't think they are good reasons. I no lots of immigrants who have had it hard and none sit there and complain.

  • @danielrizzo4927
    @danielrizzo4927 Рік тому +1

    The UK and Switzerland are the same. Who copied who?

  • @cadthunkin
    @cadthunkin Рік тому

    It seems to me its only useful to revamp a system if it can and will be enforced. I would bet the rules revamp would be easy. Its stopping the ones that jump around them because they know they won't be accepted. I wonder, are the same people asking for immigration reform going to then complain when a lot are rejected? Yes, they will. I agree with her though, revamp the system for easy approval or rejection, enforce borders, and make people proud to legally immigrate.

  • @RandFanOne
    @RandFanOne Рік тому +1

    Sad to see the Ayn Rand Institute devolve to this. Let it br known that not all Objectivists agree and perhaps most disagree.

  • @AynRandCenterLatinAmerica
    @AynRandCenterLatinAmerica Рік тому +3

    Amazing talk!!!

  • @robertstewart6956
    @robertstewart6956 Рік тому +6

    “It is obviously easier, for the short run, to draw cheap labor from adjacent pools of poverty...than to find it among one's own people. And to the millions of such prospective immigrants from poverty to prosperity, there is, rightly or wrongly, no place that looks more attractive than the “United States. Given its head, and subject to no restrictions, this pressure will find its termination only when the levels of overpopulation and poverty in the United States are equal to those of the countries from which these people are now so anxious to escape.”
    George F. Kennan

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому

      "It is obviously easier, for the short run, to not watch the video and to presume oneself smart enough to comment on that which the commenter knows nothing about." -- Roger Fusselman

    • @kphaxx
      @kphaxx Рік тому +1

      ??? US benefits from immigration, but only until overpopulation + poverty > those of other countries? That's just nonsense. You're quoting nonsense.

    • @joebrown6540
      @joebrown6540 Рік тому

      Immigration creates homelessness they only care about their self just listen to her slow self

    • @joebrown6540
      @joebrown6540 Рік тому

      Buildings are for citizens not for immigrants these people are bad news

    • @joebrown6540
      @joebrown6540 Рік тому

      You are supposed to make sure people in your country are working first 😂😂😂😂 wow 😳

  • @avneet12284
    @avneet12284 Рік тому +1

    Excellent talk

  • @YashArya01
    @YashArya01 Рік тому +1

    25:00

    • @lordsweep
      @lordsweep Рік тому +1

      There have to be prerequisites to enter America. Learn the language, have an occupation that will not make them a ward of the state, and relinquish their citizenship to their home country and not be a burden to the country. America has enough maids, lawn care people, restaurant workers, mechanics, etc.

    • @YashArya01
      @YashArya01 Рік тому

      @@lordsweep are you aware that the cost of labor is higher in America than in most countries? Why do you think that is, if America has enough maids, lawn care takers etc? And enough according to whom? The wise central planners?

  • @nivin7360
    @nivin7360 Рік тому +2

    She did not cover the injustice in family based immigration.

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому

      The injustice of the entire US immigration system against immigrants and Americans is enough for one video.

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 Рік тому

      What do you mean?

    • @kphaxx
      @kphaxx Рік тому +1

      Cool idea, make a video about it and post it on your own platform.

  • @robertstewart6956
    @robertstewart6956 Рік тому +8

    Yes, yes, it is so unjust and fair, so just stay home and make your own country a better place.

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому +5

      America is her own country.

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому +8

      PS -- what a xenophobic comment. People are not slaves to the country of their birth. Becoming an American citizen should not feel like a ten-year prison sentence where lives are put on hold indefinitely. Judging from your comments, you would not survive the same draconian laws if you had tried to enter as an immigrant yourself.

    • @saudmahri
      @saudmahri Рік тому +5

      Since its establishment, people immigrated to the United States searching for a better life; it's in its cultural DNA. This "stay where you are and fix your problem" nonsense is the least American thing I have ever heard!

    • @cadthunkin
      @cadthunkin Рік тому +1

      The point presented is we are saying one thing, and doing another. We should at least make it easy for productive people to get in. This under the table way of doing things is corrupt. Look into citrus pickers. I wonder if any country handles immigration admin well.

  • @robertstewart6956
    @robertstewart6956 Рік тому +5

    “History yields few examples of diversity creating a stable society.” Richard Lamm, Colorado Governor 1975-1987

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому +5

      Listen to the video.

    • @XOmniverse
      @XOmniverse Рік тому +3

      Except for the most stable, powerful, and rich one in the entire history of the Earth I guess.

  • @JLu20
    @JLu20 Рік тому +12

    My dear girl.... my sympathy for your hardships and the death of your dear dad. Sadly things here are designed as they are. However, please consider what possibly the immigration system is for? To protect the AMERICAN DREAM FOR AMERICANS FIRST AND FOREMOST. Please ask yourself why you think you can lay claim to some other NATION's People's financial and living standard Dream. When and how can your HomeNation become a dream nation? Yes, greedy corporations are trying to push cheap foreign labor to pay less money in total wages, but they get push back by AMERICAN citizens who are the NATION's current WORKERS. Question... could anyone just pop on over to any other foreign NATION and fully demand that country usurp its own original human population infavor of a foreigner? Insulting and disgusting the original population...is never a good plan. Pretty sure I cannot simply pop over to say... any good living standard country and demand equal access to its Peoples toys... Fund your own home Nation and support its dream first. Quit being so unwelcomed.

    • @ProudAjax
      @ProudAjax Рік тому +1

      Immigrants are American.

    • @team1275
      @team1275 Рік тому +7

      Didn't American's left England for better future to a native American's country? Throughout history brave people venture out for a better life.

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Рік тому +7

      That is just plain ATROCIOUS. We stood as a beacon of freedom to the world. We WANT persons of good character and willingness to assimilate and be productive from anywhere, Ever hear of the "brain drain"? Where do you think those British scientists went? How many of the Brit musical groups came to the US with their talent? My family was involvoed in LEGAL portuguese immigration to southeast New England before the Kennedy bill and the exponential growth of the US colectivized Welfar Stat. And things were fine
      You make the same error as all collectivists, that the "American Dream" is a zero-sum game. That's crap: in two ways: 1. It is not a dream, off in some Never-Never-land, it is a fact, though one that is fading. Thanks to collectivism. 2. the more productive minds and hands the more real, choice-heavy and strong this "dream" becomes. You have no idea how many businesses were started by immigrants: DuPont, Anheiser-Busch (and most of the beer industry), Cheff Boy-Ar-Di. Now, we do need some limits; a number that can be easily assimilated, a willingness to assimilate, not being a drain on the public (but that is the fault of the collectivist welfare state) and health and criminal matters. Ayn Rand was in favor of English as the Official Language. And it is often immigrants who appreciate what we have more than native-born. When Roy Innes came here from Jamaica, he was appolled at the way American Black groups were peddling victimhood (almost as wholesale as Trump is now) and said WTF you talking about
      So get your snooty nose back into joint

    • @RogerFusselman
      @RogerFusselman Рік тому +1

      The comment from the safely anonymous JLu20 is absolutely disgusting. Nobody is a better person simply by virtue of being born in the US. Your individual rights come not from your place of birth but from your nature as a human being. The anti-immigration people are US citizens by law but they are Americans by presumption only. An American in any profound sense would embrace individual rights, which Augustina clearly does and the immigration laws clearly do not. Her critics would not last five minutes trying to emigrate here if the tables were turned.

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 Рік тому

      @@SpacePatrollerLaserI’m glad to see you now defending the sentiment of this video instead of condemning it. Wasn’t it good?