How the First 151 Pokemon Changed Over Time

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2023
  • Did Pokemon always pander to the first generation? I'll be going over Pokemon's history with how they balanced between serving older fans and newer fans in the perspective of the original designs.
    Thank you to ‪@FCPlaythroughs‬ and ‪@worldoflongplays‬ for the gameplay footage
    Learn more through the links below:
    Ruby Sapphire Interview: www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...
    Black and White Interview: www.ign.com/articles/2011/03/...
    Vinny vs Alolan Persian: • [Vinesauce] Vinny vs. ...
    X and Y Interview: www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/...
    Convergent Evolution: • Convergent Evolution i...
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  • @commonviewer2488
    @commonviewer2488 8 місяців тому +1717

    Pikachu learned it's own name, and Snorlax learned to stand up and run. This is important to their evolution.

    • @andreaquadrati
      @andreaquadrati 8 місяців тому +76

      Then Pikachu forgot again.

    • @deanflash112
      @deanflash112 8 місяців тому +9

      Then won the championship of regional champions.

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 8 місяців тому +48

      And Mewtwo learns to take performance-enhancing stones, but made sure to read the warning labels first so he doesn't take both at once.

    • @Mare-mi2jf
      @Mare-mi2jf 8 місяців тому +3

      hello

    • @Mare-mi2jf
      @Mare-mi2jf 8 місяців тому +3

      hello

  • @half-faust
    @half-faust 9 місяців тому +1181

    I like the convergent pokemon but it is very funny to think of "ghost tea container" as an ecological niche

    • @lollertoaster
      @lollertoaster 8 місяців тому +129

      You are thinking of this wrong. The Pokemon is what's inside the tea container, not the container itself. There are many Pokemon like this, inhibiting some specific object in one way or another. It makes sense that in two tea drinking regions, two pokemon living in tea container would "evolve" separately.

    • @DumbestDumbFool
      @DumbestDumbFool 8 місяців тому

      Also adding about convergent, it's two different species that evolves to look similar, in this case, two ancestor of both polteagheist evolved to look like these tea drinking dishes to protect themselves from predators, and thus making both of them looks pretty similar in the idea, plus how they are actually "evolved" to deal with the changes in environment in specific case which is human urbanization and "evolved" to have same idea thus it is called convergent. The other way happened with the other convergent digglet and tentacool line, which evolves to appear similar, where convergent "evolution" usually in real world happened because both species lives in the same space and the shape specific to both of them are very good to survive the specific areas they live in (it happened a LOT to crabs and turtles, they have 2-3 different genus belonged to different families and sometimes even ordos that looks pretty much super similar to the point that scientists got a name for the phenomenon).

    • @St_rs1123
      @St_rs1123 8 місяців тому +107

      @@lollertoasterghost tea being an ecological niche is still funny ngl

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 8 місяців тому +5

      Convergent evolution is different animals evolving similar traits on the same environment, like Dolphins and Sharks.
      Every one of the ones people try to sell as "convergent" are everything but, they are just mimicking other species.

    • @LumaTo
      @LumaTo 8 місяців тому +16

      @@RandalfElVikingo I don't think anyone seriously thinks that the forces of evolution are truly in play in the Pokemon universe. The creators thought it would be fun to create Pokemon that look similar to ones we've seen before and didn't want to make them "XYZ" Regional forms. This is fictitious universe that has proven to be consistently inconsistent - whether or not you like it is another matter.
      Convergent evolution is also far more complicated than requiring the same environment - but it's use here is to frame it with a phenomenon that is known about in our real world.

  • @duplollamaree1250
    @duplollamaree1250 8 місяців тому +295

    22:20
    actually, they try to explain new types in the manga ay one point - when the steel type was added in gold and silver, the characters discussed the fact that various pokemon that had already been discovered and documented (such as magnemite) may actually have this undiscovered type, and they hadn't considered it before because there weren't enough pokemon with the same attributes to support it as its own type. when other pokemon like steelix were discovered however, they found the common attributes associated with the steel type, and classified the initial pokemon accordingly...
    it could be that with the fairy type, they just didn't think that the shared attributes between existing discovered pokemon were enough for a new classification, so when more research was done and new pokemon were found, they decided that fairy would need to be a new classification.
    idk, just thought that that was interesting. sometimes pokemon does explain things, it just takes some digging :)

    • @ugn154
      @ugn154 7 місяців тому +17

      Makes plenty sense. Also considering that certain species call specific regions their home, making it harder to research a specific type when so very few live in that region. We have an example of this with Skarmory, who prefers to live in canyon and crag mountain side like enviorments, which Kanto lacks but Johto doesn't. Consider Scyther only being able to evolve when exposed to a Metal Coat. The ones that lived in the region home to Skarmory would eventually be able to run into the shedding of a Skarmory's coat/feathers, compared to the ones in Kanto. Same goes for Onix, leaving Kanto with only one species to study in regards to Steel types, Magnemite, and if you ask me, that's not enough to be sure that these metallic creatures are part of a possible Steel classification/category, so they could only classify it as the more obvious electric type that it clearly was. When it comes to Dark types, Umbreon is the stump on the road, considering nothing stopped an Eevee from evolving into an Umbreon and there was never any evidence of this in Kanto. Yes, Murkrow, Hondour/doom and Tyranitar were Johto mons, which made it easier to identify a similar trait among these species as easy as Steel was to identify, but Umbreon would've and should've been a foreign species that should've driven research into this obscure typing. They would've seen an Espeon's abilities and said: This is definitely a psychic type, but what about this one? It prefers the night time, it's attacks have somewhat of a dark aura to them and he is immune to psychic type attacks, what could it be?
      In comes Johto and shares their research with Kanto, cementing a second new typing, Dark.
      Fairy is a story for another day, and one that sadly, does not have as much of a foundation/proper explanation as to why they weren't known the way the previous two were, since, there was "Fairy" types from the beginning (Mr. Mime, Clefairy/fable and Cleffa, Jpuff, Wtuff and Ibuff, Marill and Azu, Togepi/kiss and the literall fairy species Snubull and Granbull). Imo, zero excuse as to why these weren't included, other than "balancing the game". There was plenty of different pokemon to study and research to come to a conclusion that there was something unique about these species and quite possibly, an unidentified typing. But I guess Kalos had to do the job that Kanto and Johto were to lazy to do.

    • @nemou4985
      @nemou4985 7 місяців тому +15

      And they suddenly got new weaknesses and resistances when "categorized" ;)

    • @whentheyD
      @whentheyD 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ugn154nah, there's a reason, they weren't new types, Gen 6 onwards take place in a different timeline and there's evidence of that in ORAS (Looker) and in USUM (destroyed alola)

    • @VinRocks
      @VinRocks Місяць тому

      "fairy nuff"

    • @jakko_
      @jakko_ Місяць тому +2

      However, this doesn't explain how they decided a "Ghost" type or "Dragon" type existed when there was only one evolution line that had that type (Gengar and Dragonite)

  • @banobobot
    @banobobot 9 місяців тому +1977

    It’s pretty crazy that the main Generation V games did not have Pikachu in its respective region.

    • @ManifestationPowerhouse
      @ManifestationPowerhouse 9 місяців тому +193

      You don’t need the word ‘respective’ here.

    • @AuburnInAutumn
      @AuburnInAutumn 8 місяців тому +115

      @@ManifestationPowerhousekinda. They were specifying that the National dex doesn’t count with funny words

    • @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
      @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 8 місяців тому +212

      And yet Psyduck has been in every game

    • @Rajclaw
      @Rajclaw 8 місяців тому +91

      @@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafanpsyduck mvp

    • @sackofpotatoes1345
      @sackofpotatoes1345 8 місяців тому +33

      ​​@@ManifestationPowerhousesir, this is a Pokemon video

  • @nathanlamberth7631
    @nathanlamberth7631 8 місяців тому +232

    I was literally thinking “I sure hope he didn’t painfully make each one of these Pokémon depictions” they are too good looking for how little they get shown

  • @AWE-Nessy
    @AWE-Nessy 9 місяців тому +387

    What a great video i hope the creator didn't go insane when drawing the charizard line

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie 8 місяців тому +55

      they held a ~6 hour charizardathon livestream a few whiles back drawing all the charizard, it got unlisted though

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ 8 місяців тому +38

      @@Melecie I believe they're referencing that exact thing, as a joke

    • @josiahtimothygo6693
      @josiahtimothygo6693 8 місяців тому +2

      Yea

  • @ebitachy
    @ebitachy 9 місяців тому +869

    i just want to point out the changes to the models in legends arceus and scarlet/violet are from normal mapping and other such tools, not from creating entirely new models from scratch. ...that would be insane.

    • @gabrielfreitas3033
      @gabrielfreitas3033 9 місяців тому +151

      That's half true, they've also changed the models to have modeled mouths and eyes instead of textures, alongside some minor changes probably to facilitate the addition of new animations

    • @ebitachy
      @ebitachy 8 місяців тому +46

      @@gabrielfreitas3033 thank you for expanding on "and other such tools".

    • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
      @henriquecarballoaranha9100 8 місяців тому +74

      to be fair there's a few specific cases where mons got models tweaked for more than just the facial features too. Persian for instance has had its proportions adjusted noticeably compared to its previous model
      ofc not every mon gets this treatment, but just saying that they do have a few cases of straight up new models

    • @fOk0dAzZ
      @fOk0dAzZ 8 місяців тому +3

      I'm loving this. what else is to know?

    • @dimetrodon2250
      @dimetrodon2250 8 місяців тому +40

      Charizard and Mewtwo definitely got special treatment in this regard. Also every Pokemon who's eyes and mouth were 2D textures got an ovehaul to these areas. Their faces are completely different. Also the rigging and animations more than make up for the somewhat reused models. Yungoose for instance has an excellent walking and running animation, where it moves like a real ferret or mongoose, instead of like a stiff tube. Also have contextual animations for flying pokemon, where they arent permanently suspended in the air, and will land and walk when necessary is nice. Being on an HD screen means that smaller Pokemon could be accurately scales, which is a huge plus. The Problem now is athat Pokemon Go and HOME use the gen 6-8 style models, to the point where some of the new PLA and S/V mons actually needed downgraded versions of their models/textures.

  • @eclipse9727
    @eclipse9727 8 місяців тому +50

    37:04 I love how they got so angry when they said "Primape gets so angry that it DIES!!", you can hear the *Sliiightest* bit of a mic bump afterward. Beautiful. Just beautiful.

    • @tell-me-a-story-
      @tell-me-a-story- 19 днів тому

      If natural selection applied to Pokémon, prime-apes wouldn’t survive long.

  • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
    @henriquecarballoaranha9100 8 місяців тому +392

    I wanna point out that while ys the nostalgia factor plays a big role in why so many old Pokémon get new things, there's also the aspect of powercreep. Pokémon's competitive angle has changed drastically since the first few generations and the simple matter of fact is that the majority of Gen 1 (and really 1 to 3) mons had poorly distributed stats, so they simply couldn't really keep up. Things such as Regional Variants or new evolutions help bring these back immensely

    • @dannycat3970
      @dannycat3970 8 місяців тому +20

      That's an excellent point and these these reasons combined are why in personally fine with them favoring gen 1. It's an effort to bolster pokemons iconography imo

    • @pokemonrampagemake
      @pokemonrampagemake 8 місяців тому +23

      Definitely a fair point. Gen 2 could use some of that love too, it’s Pokémon are generally struggling

    • @lupvirga
      @lupvirga 8 місяців тому +3

      Regional Variants doesn't change much though. it's still a new pokemon just with a familiar face.

    • @doloreshaze-ji4jw
      @doloreshaze-ji4jw 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@lupvirgaI assume he was referring to the redistribution of stats of new regional variants, which is a good way to help old pokémon stay relevant competitively, since their original stats would perform poorly in competitive fights as the generations progressed.

    • @nemou4985
      @nemou4985 7 місяців тому

      @@doloreshaze-ji4jw But you don't really have the OG sprite then

  • @FlipswitchX
    @FlipswitchX 8 місяців тому +90

    I find it super weird that through ALL of that, Kangaskhan's baby never became it's own pokemon.
    Also no alternate Dragonite form of any kind.

    • @doughboywhine
      @doughboywhine 4 місяці тому +9

      and we still don't know how cubone's mothers get them their skulls while still alive

  • @Bepppp
    @Bepppp 8 місяців тому +21

    I like how Psyduck is in every generation

  • @geekecology
    @geekecology 9 місяців тому +176

    Man, I forgot how much I loved the original Pikachu sprite. Great vid!

  • @neo_b
    @neo_b 9 місяців тому +426

    im get it out of the way, i dont mind gen 1 pokemon getting new forms, i enjoy seeing them as modern interpretations… still waiting for a Dewgong line form/variant lol

    • @5asDMteam
      @5asDMteam 9 місяців тому +33

      don't think about it, even the developers have forgotten about it

    • @13DarkForce
      @13DarkForce 9 місяців тому +41

      I'm waiting for a Dragonite that actually looks like an evolution of his line

    • @allenchoyce5634
      @allenchoyce5634 9 місяців тому +26

      I'm waiting on Arbok to get ANYTHING and for Golduck to be part Psychic type

    • @AlolanAlomomola
      @AlolanAlomomola 8 місяців тому +3

      They even make them more competitively relevant, look at Ninetales

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 8 місяців тому +7

      I think they will just always sideline the Seel line because they will never find a way to make it competitively relevant or in a place that fits its stuff

  • @pro_gemer
    @pro_gemer 8 місяців тому +42

    I really like those timelapses, they recap the entire video in a really nice way

  • @Pop5chan
    @Pop5chan 8 місяців тому +44

    It’s crazy because I’m a victim of it. In general 5 I was “too old” for Pokémon and I went back later and they’re great Games. I wish people would’ve bought more at the time of gen 5 cause it was great

    • @Yous0147
      @Yous0147 8 місяців тому +4

      Gen 5 was a hit and miss for me in terms of design. Some of my favourite Pokemon are from this gen, and yet some of my (then) least favourite designs were also from that gen. Victini is even my favourite, closely followed by Lilligant, Chandelure and Scrafty. But I'm one of those people that can't get behind the twin ice cream Pokemon, or the golem, or KlingKlang, and that's not because I'm a genwunner, it has more to do with what their designs actually says about the wider Pokemon world. Essentially they rip me right out of the immersivenes of the world.

    • @linksauce_1
      @linksauce_1 8 місяців тому

      Didn't play it until about 2 years ago for the same reason. I checked out of the franchise after HG/SS. I'm glad I came back to them

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 8 місяців тому +49

    One interesting thing you left out from the original 3D Sprites. On the 3ds In 2011, nearly 2 years before the X and Y announcement, they released the Pokedex 3D. Which was a free app you could download onto your 3ds and slowly unlock a full Pokedex of every single Pokemon that existed up to that point. This was a way to utilize those 3d Models they had developed for X/Y prior to the release, and help build the hype.

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw 7 місяців тому +13

    Mega evolution was dope, I hope they'll bring it back with way more current Pokémon that can use it.

  • @chadgorosaurus4898
    @chadgorosaurus4898 9 місяців тому +56

    Fat pikachu needs to become a regional form.

    • @alonk1060
      @alonk1060 9 місяців тому +16

      Or just a rare version

  • @peripatches
    @peripatches 8 місяців тому +17

    Loved watching this video! Was very fun to see an analysis for how things have changed over the years with the mainline games. Amazing work as always! 😄

  • @eddie-roo
    @eddie-roo 9 місяців тому +58

    God, you’re such a good composers, that transition into the Stema theme was so good.

  • @thepizzaman6310
    @thepizzaman6310 8 місяців тому +41

    Just want to say i love the way you draw all the pokemon, especially Eevee. Its pure eye-candy.

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 8 місяців тому +1

      Idunno.... Mr. Mime looks like he would show up standing at the foot of your bed while planning to eat your soul...

  • @sveipr6516
    @sveipr6516 9 місяців тому +11

    Looks like the original 151 pokemon lines that haven't been touched at all are:
    Fearow
    Arbok
    Nidoqueen/king
    Parasect
    Venomoth
    Golduck
    Victreebel
    Dodrio
    Dewgong
    Cloyster
    Hypno
    Seaking
    Starmie
    Ditto
    Omastar
    Kabutops
    Dragonite

    • @sheikahblight
      @sheikahblight 8 місяців тому +5

      Ditto was technically touched. It became a central part to breeding

    • @anstupid4093
      @anstupid4093 Місяць тому

      Dragonite is already perfect

  • @Say.LilJay
    @Say.LilJay 8 місяців тому +13

    I loved the whole video!! You’re so engaging and summed up the series so well, I even learned a few things. I don’t even want to think about how long it took to edit this video, but you did an amazing job and I’m so proud of you!

  • @KreepyKat911
    @KreepyKat911 8 місяців тому +10

    Lol when the Hoenn music started up I felt my pulse pick up. I was into pokemon prior to third gen, but Ruby was my very first pokemon game. It holds a special place in my heart.

  • @gregolas5873
    @gregolas5873 8 місяців тому +23

    Amazing work, Nortist. It's obvious that your videos are a passion of love and they are a joy to watch because of it.

  • @jaym8988
    @jaym8988 8 місяців тому +40

    You know what's interesting? Generation 7 is also when I decided to get back into Pokémon. I didn't like the designs of Gen 3, but I thought Gen 7 had natural looking designs. Of course, I didn't know about Ultra Beasts, Tapus, and Necrozma before they released, but I went back and bought Gens 3, 4, 5, and 6 to catch up.

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 9 місяців тому +38

    33:23
    "And players STILL loved this game! For the refreshing catch mechanic and action boss battles."
    Also because Ingo was there. You forgot to mention that

    • @laravioliiii2832
      @laravioliiii2832 8 місяців тому +4

      and because a lot of the characters were very very hot.

    • @PixelPalettes
      @PixelPalettes Місяць тому

      @@laravioliiii2832Agreed wholeheartedly

  • @Kurayamiblack
    @Kurayamiblack 8 місяців тому +12

    I love how the logic behind Gigantamax Pikachu seemed to be "Let's take the original R/B Thickachu sprite and make it THICCER"

  • @jocofo
    @jocofo 9 місяців тому +18

    a Vinny clip is probably the last thing I'd expect to see on this channel
    that was gold

  • @kudoss2137
    @kudoss2137 8 місяців тому +3

    This was so cool to watch! Very well made and enjoyable!

  • @Valnanailo
    @Valnanailo 8 місяців тому +5

    Won't lie watching the entire 151 change and reduce at the end was my favorite to watch

  • @samamander_
    @samamander_ 2 місяці тому +8

    I hate that scarlet and violets graphics are so bad cause the new Pokémon and variant are actually fire they just didn’t seem to execute the game right :/

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 9 місяців тому +65

    They way you described BDSP is a perfect reasoning for its existence, Pokemon can do this method in the future so long as the games aren't full price as they aren't meant to be new (and with gen5 next, remasters of BW leading into remakes of BW2 would be a good plan). As far as the balancing act of nostalgia, I think they've learned that the series has been around long enough they don't need to rely on just the original Pokemon, so long as they don't forget about some. Parasect have received nothing yet but PLA made them known as hyper aggressive, Dewgong, Fearow, the Nido family, Victreebel, Cloyster, Hypno, Seaking, Golduck, and Starmie are all contenders for something to spice them up or make them interesting.

  • @phlan6850
    @phlan6850 8 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for putting so much work into your videos and projects!Between regular and high quality videos, music, stema game development, UA-cam collabs, kadomon, all of your pokemon graphics, and probably a bunch of other stuff that I haven't stumbled across yet you do so much. From a stem student, please be careful not to let yourself burn out, and thank you for everything you do!

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 7 місяців тому +2

    That animation at the end was pretty neat, loved the touch with the music aswell

  • @Annonymous_Human
    @Annonymous_Human 8 місяців тому +3

    Great work as always, n0Rt!
    Your are one of the few UA-camrs that can keep me entertained for more than 40 minutes without clicking off.

  • @ReverMint
    @ReverMint 8 місяців тому +7

    What a great and well researched video! I think Scarlet & Violet finally reached a nice balance, bringing a bit of nostalgia from older generations but not focusing solely on Gen 1, while also bringing tons of brand new designs and ideas.

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 8 місяців тому +10

    I'm so glad that the games are starting to bring back great stories with Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet. Especially since thats most of the reason I play games.

  • @gavinmagness9009
    @gavinmagness9009 8 місяців тому +2

    "Pokemon Go's OC"
    You get a sub for that alone.

  • @theknightwithabadpictotall7639
    @theknightwithabadpictotall7639 8 місяців тому +42

    Now that the gen V games are more popular than ever, I wonder what the Pokémon Company plans to do with that information. If they have any sort of common sense, they should know that just making Black and White remakes while leaving out Black 2 and White 2 is gonna piss everyone off. On the other hand, remaking 2 sets of games seems like a lot work, especially considering how much they rush things. The best case scenario would be a Black 3 and White 3, as long as they make a good enough story for it.

    • @Carcosahead
      @Carcosahead 8 місяців тому +26

      worst case scenario they remake the games but chibi, full price, no modifications to the story or events

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Carcosaheadpeople are getting tired of gamefreak and their crap, if they do that, they will get ripped apart

    • @user-sf9ku9qj1q
      @user-sf9ku9qj1q 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@ratedr7845but it will still sell really really well. Corps react to money, nothing else. They don't care about complaints, hell, they might even make fun of us behind closed doors. I buy the games almost a year after launch but too many preoder and buy day one so, why change?

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 8 місяців тому +2

      @@user-sf9ku9qj1q you can only get punked so many times, they will snap eventually, i see your reasoning though

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 8 місяців тому +2

      In a very weird sense, I now want them to release a remake of Black and White, or even Black 2/White 2. I want them to fail that remake so badly any illusions about GameFreak being a good company that can improve are shattered. The fans have proven time and time again they can make new Pokémon, Pokémon maps, Pokémon stories, tweaks to existing games, entirely new games and stories using an engine, and far more. It is my opinion that despite being the lynchpin that Pokémon rests upon, GameFreak is completely redundant.

  • @jamesstark6499
    @jamesstark6499 8 місяців тому +77

    There was a lore reason for the fairy typing in XY. The Ultimate Weapon is like Schrödinger’s Cat, it both went off and didn’t go off. The first five gens are the world where the Ultimate Weapon did not get fired, while Gen 6 and onward are the world where the Ultimate Weapon went off. So, fairy type just doesn’t exist in the world where the Ultimate Weapon didn’t fire. Same with mega evolutions and Z-moves (since they use infinity energy which doesn’t exist in the world of the first five gens).

    • @gagan6749
      @gagan6749 8 місяців тому +1

      Well then is BDSP/SWSH/SV/PLA from the ultimate weapon world fired one or the not fired one? Because all of them have fairy type but no mega

    • @mray4784
      @mray4784 8 місяців тому +3

      @@gagan6749 Because people on other regions don't use mega, they use dinamax and tera.

    • @jamesstark6499
      @jamesstark6499 8 місяців тому +8

      @@gagan6749 yeah, they’re from the timeline where the weapon went off. Idk about BDSP, tbh, because honestly I think that was just made by a team that didn’t really care much about these things given how bare bones it is. BDSP, lore wise should’ve had it because of the Devon Corporation and literally every other region in “Poke-Japan” using Infinity Energy (except Kitikami since it has Tera crystals). However, I don’t think they’ve given a real lore reason for why Mega’s and Z-moves aren’t in the other regions, I’m hoping maybe we’ll get answers with the Indigo Disk since Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant seem tied to megas.
      My head cannon at the moment is each region just uses the energy that’s readily available, based on how Galar, Paldea, and Kitikami are done. They’d rather use the energy they have. Plus, Galar and Paldea would’ve been the most effected by Kalos’s war, so they might shun infinity energy because of how it’s hurt them. As for PLA, that’s the one that makes the most sense in my mind. “Poke-Japan” seems to parallel real Japan more than Poke-America and Poke-Europe. The Meiji Period was just when Japan started getting in touch with the West, and they mostly knew of Americans. It’s unlikely the people of Hisui had been in touch with Kalos to even know about infinity energy. The Hisuian’s barely even knew how to use Pokémon, it’s not too surprising to me they wouldn’t know how to use mega evolutions.
      Like I said, I’m hoping that the Indigo Disk gives us some answers. SV does seem to be taking time to fill in lore holes, and us being at a terrarium off the coast of Unova and figuring out what’s up with the paradox Pokémon, I wouldn’t be surprised to get answers on why megas seem to be locked to Kalos, Alola, and Poke-Japan (except Sinnoh and Kitikami).

    • @gagan6749
      @gagan6749 8 місяців тому

      @@mray4784 well that's weird because lore wise if z moves and mega can co-exist why can't the other? And lore-wise bdsp should've had mega same for Pokemons legends Arceus (it has sylveon even), but it didn't.

    • @mray4784
      @mray4784 8 місяців тому

      @@gagan6749 Because not every country (region) is the same.

  • @rafaelluciano5596
    @rafaelluciano5596 8 місяців тому +35

    Based off of the tile nod and his video, this was not what I expected. I was thinking we would get a more specific breakdown on how the art designs of each gen 1 pokemon transitioned over time, not a description of evolutionary branches and systemic changes :/
    Also I think it should be noted that the dip in sales for black and white is likely due to the prevalence of R4 piracy at the time, and not necessarily a negative reaction to the region. That was a unique problem late in the life of the DS that most games then faced.

    • @Johnjohnson2695
      @Johnjohnson2695 8 місяців тому +8

      Agreed. A good video but I think the title is wrong.

    • @eclipsesoluna3453
      @eclipsesoluna3453 8 місяців тому

      same

    • @NecromancyForKids
      @NecromancyForKids 5 місяців тому

      It did feel like they went a little too in depth to aspects that are unrelated to the title.

  • @snailroyal
    @snailroyal 3 місяці тому +1

    amazing video and incredible work with the art!!! thats so much work and you went so hard!!!!

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby6283 6 місяців тому +1

    What a nice graph, and presentation at the end! ^^

  • @bruhmphrey
    @bruhmphrey 9 місяців тому +28

    Great long-form content! Really enjoyed this.

    • @AuburnInAutumn
      @AuburnInAutumn 8 місяців тому

      I’m pretty proud of him. Sounds like he’s being working really hard on his speech impediment.

  • @Toulippy
    @Toulippy 8 місяців тому +4

    So, charizard changed its shiny color, pikachu got on a diet and learned its name only to forget it again, snorlax finally stood up, and kadabra finally can have its own tcg cards produced again after like 20 years.
    Oh yeah never forget those banned cards, gotta love moo moo milk.

  • @luishenriquedeutsch1214
    @luishenriquedeutsch1214 8 місяців тому +1

    Congrats. This is an excellent material. Love the drawings!! ❤

  • @mmeikol
    @mmeikol 8 місяців тому +4

    I wouldn’t call myself a genwunner/gen oner, but with every new game/DLC I do check which of the original 151 made the cut

  • @oripoke4396
    @oripoke4396 8 місяців тому +16

    Another great video n0rt! Other comments have said this already, but I wanted to reiterate how much I appreciate all the effort you put into these videos, from creating custom artwork of all the mons, making unique motion graphics, collecting hundreds of relevant b-roll clips, and writing such thoughtful and informative video scripts! Keep up the amazing work, but remember to take care of yourself too :)

  • @Zaka0223
    @Zaka0223 8 місяців тому +5

    Old pikachu was very wide

    • @Zone_Person
      @Zone_Person Місяць тому +1

      i prefer it like that, looks cuter

  • @MagnaLynx21
    @MagnaLynx21 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video, the translation of the the Sugimori art style with you're animation are a feast for the eyes

  • @Traumasamanen
    @Traumasamanen 8 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting video, thank you!

  • @Daisy-mb8kt
    @Daisy-mb8kt 8 місяців тому +5

    It’s so weird hearing about how hated gen five was, for me and probably many others, it was my first generation and holds many of my favorite Pokémon. In present time, black and white are usually discussed nostalgically.

  • @5asDMteam
    @5asDMteam 9 місяців тому +8

    another lecture by Professor Nortist uaaaaay

  • @LinenMinun
    @LinenMinun 8 місяців тому +1

    I really loved the way you used the music in this video!!

  • @PurelyRo
    @PurelyRo 8 місяців тому +2

    i grew up playing pokemon platinum, and now i'm on pokemon scarlet, massive jump and it feels the same but even better

  • @chaokid999
    @chaokid999 8 місяців тому +9

    Amazing video! One of the biggest letdowns of Let's Go for me was not getting an expanded Gen 1 Dex now that Pichu, Sylveon and so many other additions to the original lines exist.

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl 8 місяців тому

      None of the cross gen evolutions (although it was cool we had the regional variants) was annoying. I guess I could live without the abilities (having been playing Stadium recently), but why no Sevii Islands?

  • @cheeseman1769
    @cheeseman1769 8 місяців тому +7

    22:15
    I swear there was an explanation but I think I must have dreamt about it because I don't hear anyone else talk about it. What I remember is that Xerneas was dormant all this time, and some time before the events of X&Y it awakened, and its presence returned the fairy type to every pokemon that lost it when it was asleep

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty 8 місяців тому +1

      That doesn't explain the presence of the Fairy type in Let's Go, BDSP, or Legends: Arceus though.

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheRedSmarty Not Let's Go, but in Arceus you could chalk it to Xerneas being awake many years ago, going to sleep and waking up again later.
      It's a nice headcanon, at the very least.

    • @Glaceon_Guy
      @Glaceon_Guy 3 місяці тому

      So that means Sylveon is canonically the Normal-type Eeveelution... because honestly, what else would it be if you took its Fairy typing away: same as Togepi, Clefairy and others. Damn, that's... a revelation...

  • @prajwalshakya5038
    @prajwalshakya5038 4 місяці тому +1

    Watching some fun facts about Pokémon was enjoyable! I think that this is the only long video that I've ever watched until end till now. Keep it up! 👏 I would love to see more with further anticipation to see new ideas with related tkpics in the future! Love for the Pokémon! 😍😊❤️❣️

  • @GabeHopkins-qc4sr
    @GabeHopkins-qc4sr 29 днів тому +1

    I love the simple and cartoony artstyle that the pokemon are drawn in for this video

  • @markdpane
    @markdpane 8 місяців тому +5

    Pretty informative. You should do this kind of video for the evolutionary families of Pokemon from later generations.

  • @CyColt
    @CyColt 9 місяців тому +15

    I first played Pokemon Yellow, on my grandmother's Gameboy, more so on Gameboy Advance.
    We played a lot of older consoles well past their date, i think....
    I remember us having a Nintendo 64 in 2007.

  • @songanon
    @songanon 8 місяців тому +1

    great video man! keep it up

  • @GoyaChamploo
    @GoyaChamploo 7 місяців тому +1

    Love all the art in this video, great stuff!

  • @Strike-hopper
    @Strike-hopper 8 місяців тому +3

    Gen 3 was where pokemon peaked change my mind ⚡

  • @FantomMind
    @FantomMind 8 місяців тому +5

    I've been playing since the beginning. Black and White were amazing! It brought me back into the series.

  • @alexander.sebastian
    @alexander.sebastian 8 місяців тому +2

    Dein Video über 9 Generationen hinweg ist wirklich sehr gut geworden. Vielen vielen dank für dieses super spannende und interessante Video! Ich habe selten so viel Freude beim gucken gehabt. Ich hatte noch spontan die Idee, ob du die Legendären und Mysteriösen Pokémon und ihren jeweiligen einzigartigen Geschichten über die 9 Generationen hinweg erläutern möchtest. Gotta Catch 'Em All ⚾

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 8 місяців тому +1

      SOME OF US DON'T SPEAK GERMAN! PLEASE TRY TO SPEAK ENGLISH!

  • @pankoty1479
    @pankoty1479 4 місяці тому +1

    masterpiece of a video, really enjoyed watching this.

  • @AdeptCharon
    @AdeptCharon 8 місяців тому +3

    As for the "convergent" Pokémon terminology discourse we've seen in the community,
    while I lean more towards "lookalikes" compared to "convergent" (too much potential to be inaccurate to usage in biology, plus*), I instead prefer using:
    Parallel Pokémon.
    In its purest meaning, the word parallel literally means two things that do not intersect, which perfectly captures the "twist" of these Pokémon being that they are specifically unrelated to the existing Pokémon that they clearly resemble.
    But not only that, the term Parallel Pokémon even works well as an umbrella term to include Paradox Pokémon as a more thematically specific subgroup (*whereas "convergent" Pokémon on the other hand excludes Paradox Pokémon), as Paradox Pokémon are essentially the same twist (unrelated lookalikes), just with more complicated mysterious lore added into it.

  • @pepebotella5210
    @pepebotella5210 8 місяців тому +5

    Congratulations on that graphic at the end. I think no one has done something like that ever! Very resourceful, I would love if you could upload it to a website or do a slower video so that we could take a look at it closer.
    By the way, were the streams where you did all the emojis archived?

  • @addisonlippold1852
    @addisonlippold1852 5 місяців тому +1

    first video of yours that I've seen, and I love your art style! very cute :}

  • @m0nd3r83
    @m0nd3r83 8 місяців тому +2

    rly nice vid man love it

  • @chaytonsmeets9261
    @chaytonsmeets9261 9 місяців тому +3

    WoW what a amazing video!

  • @MrBobxxl
    @MrBobxxl 8 місяців тому +4

    big respect for the effort. especially the last time-diagram was really nice to look at.
    Besides all the struggles you mentioned, i think your graphs show pretty clear that the biggest problem for pokemon is, that they just release the games more and more rapid since the atleast a % of the playerbase will buy any new pokemon game anyways. i really hope people will soon just stop buying unfinished games resulting in them maybe getting back to a 2 year development cycle instead of 0,7years per game

  • @randomperson-jh5ys
    @randomperson-jh5ys 2 місяці тому +1

    I love your lineless art style. I think its at its best with the hisuian forms. That voltorb and electrode look amazing

  • @samueldensmore6470
    @samueldensmore6470 2 місяці тому +1

    I've had an ongoing spreadsheet tracking this kind of information for years now to predict which pokemon from kanto might get new forms/evolutions with new games so it's funny that I'm stumbling onto this video now, glad other people think about this stuff too haha

  • @ZeChainwarden
    @ZeChainwarden 8 місяців тому +3

    Hahaha pretty crazy to hear that Masuda basically said he felt pressure to make better games because the Merch did not sell OMG it shows so hard nowaydays ...

  • @sdj0914
    @sdj0914 8 місяців тому +3

    You forgot they added pika-clones just to match with our mascot.

  • @nachobaeza
    @nachobaeza 8 місяців тому +1

    The illustrations were so good!

  • @camronreynosa4958
    @camronreynosa4958 8 місяців тому +2

    im soo condlicted seeing the sales of gen 5, bc it was one of the best experiences ive had playing the pokemon series. soo much soo that i bought both black and white then both sequals

  • @leafyyy7365
    @leafyyy7365 8 місяців тому +3

    Soul Silver has always been my favorite game, its the first one I had ever played, and recently replaying it has shown me it wasn't just rose tinted lenses. The scenery, the progression, just all have felt amazing. And being able to jump back to Kanto is very fun as well, having a second entire region and second roster of gym leaders was very fun. I remember beating the Elite 4 and Champion and being absolutely dumbfounded that there was so much more to go do.
    B&W always will have a special place in my heart. I would have definitely been disappointed in the lack of older pokemon if I was more invested when I first played Gen5, but even now it just feels very refreshing to have a region with its own exclusive pokemon, and so much less of what I've already seen. Will I miss grabbing Leafeon and Glaceon on my next B&W playthrough? Yeah, definitely. But The designs they came up with were iconic, and I will always treasure them, and for that the entire gen5 aesthetic

    • @steampunk-llama
      @steampunk-llama 5 місяців тому +1

      Change it to Heart Gold and I had the exact same experience as you holy shit

  • @benedictdakirby9919
    @benedictdakirby9919 8 місяців тому +3

    I line to call the convergent forms the doppelmons

  • @darthrevan9707
    @darthrevan9707 Місяць тому +1

    Gen 5 White 2 was my very first Pokémon game , amazing story and graphics. I recently got White and Black 2 as well which is fun.

  • @zac3249
    @zac3249 7 місяців тому +2

    I was expecting more comparisons of the sprites between generations from the title, but still a neat video!

  • @bilsuart
    @bilsuart 9 місяців тому +4

    You know it’s gonna be good when it’s a long N0rt video! 🤩

  • @OssaCantavit
    @OssaCantavit 8 місяців тому +3

    The vector pokémon are so great. This video is a treat for those alone.

  • @romeo_rabbit
    @romeo_rabbit 8 місяців тому +1

    Omg I’ve had temtem on my wish list for soooo long!! This was a great vid and I’m def gonna pick it up if I get some money!!

  • @r0byl328
    @r0byl328 4 місяці тому +1

    The video was so good that I didnt even notice it was 40 minutes long

  • @Bergsen_Bun-sense
    @Bergsen_Bun-sense 8 місяців тому +4

    Did you draw the arts for the mons in this video?? These are insanely good

  • @Drax-Striker
    @Drax-Striker 8 місяців тому +5

    For a game that started from bug catching it had really garbage bug type balance lol

  • @S4NSE
    @S4NSE 5 місяців тому +1

    ey yo that video was amazing, crazy, must have been a lot of work

  • @latexu9589
    @latexu9589 27 днів тому +1

    41:22 From the final summary, I've counted 19 of the evolution lines/single stage pokemon that haven't had any major changes after the first Pokemon games. These are:
    - Fearow line
    - Arbok line
    - Nidoqueen line
    - Nidoking line
    - Parasect line
    - Venomoth line
    - Golduck line
    - Victreebel line
    - Dodrio line
    - Dewgong line
    - Cloyster line
    - Hypno line
    - Seaking line
    - Starmie line
    - Ditto
    - Omastar line
    - Kabutops line
    - Dragonite line
    - Mew

  • @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj
    @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm 23, I watched the anime and had a few books and toys when I was very young maybe 5-8 years. Was always into Pokémon but never bought a DS game until 2013.
    I still remember sitting in front of the TV and seeing the Pokémon ad for X and Y come on. I still remember seeing xerneas and yveltal and just feeling amazed, I had to get the game! I went into GameStop after school, got Pokémon X and that was the beginning.
    It feels so weird that that was nearly exactly 10 years ago. Feels like generation 6 was only yesterday. I loved Pokémon X and played it for hours upon hours, late nights sneaking my DS. I didn't use the internet much at the time so trying to catch every Pokémon and learn their locations and how to evolve them was very fun. Then one day I caught a gligar and couldn't figure out how to evolve it as I still had a book and saw gligar evolved into gliscor and I just had to have it.
    I went online and found out how then saw that there was a very active community and video tutorials of how to get certain Pokémon and items. Soon after I got into battling online on Pokémon showdown and the rest is history.
    I know a lot of people hate on gen 6 but it was my first generation and sparked my love for Pokémon. I bought omega ruby and alpha sapphire on the 3Ds along with Pokémon black 2 and finally Pokémon sun. I haven't played a Pokémon game since but I still watch videos every day and I'm more interested in battling than the actual games themselves. I'm thinking of buying a switch and getting Pokémon scarlet though to get back into just fun casual games.
    To think if it wasn't for that ad on the TV I might never have gotten into Pokémon.

    • @Glaceon_Guy
      @Glaceon_Guy 3 місяці тому

      Damn, you just recounted the same magic I felt. I'm 32 now and remember growing up on the merch and original games from 4-5 years of age, waaayyyy back when Pokémon was a brand new thing. I had the First Edition cards and everything, the movie toys and whatnot, even saw the first movie in theaters.
      Fast forward to when I was 12, Ruby and Sapphire released, and that shit blew my mind. Went into Walmart one Saturday and bought both games, and that was pretty much formative to most of the friendship interactions I had back then. I was that Pokémon-obsessed kid, and everyone knew it. I had the Beckett magazines and submitted drawings too.
      I stopped playing after beating FireRed. I was reaching an age where I was just entering high school, and while my Pokémon obsession was at its peak, it was "uncool" to all the kids who were just coming of age, so my friends didn't play it anymore, and I was forced to adapt if I wanted a social life. That meant Xbox, Halo, Call of Duty and late nights up with the homies playing online. It was a fine period of life, I guess, but I wasn't *really* happy, you know? Something was missing.
      But then I turned 30 some 15 years later and found myself questioning if I did the right thing by leaving Pokémon behind and "growing up" as it were. I wound up buying a Switch and picked up Shield, and... I know SwSh may have been disappointing to everyone who's been playing every gen that I missed, but at least to a returning fan, it was brilliant. I went on to grab Legends Arceus and then Scarlet when that dropped. I mostly play UNITE these days.
      I've since hooked myself back into my old obsession, drawings included, which actually led to starting a side business making art for people. I guess I have Pokémon to thank for that. I don't think I'll ever sideline this obsession again; I'm too old for it now and both my wife and I are too happy with it -- straight-up, we watch the anime together on a bed covered in Eeveelution plushies, TV surrounded by Glaceon paraphernalia and the like. In too deep now, man.
      Never give that up.

  • @SmashCentralOfficial
    @SmashCentralOfficial 8 місяців тому +4

    5:49 I'm 31 now so I grew up with gen 1, and I just realized I never actually questioned the baby pokemon at all or how they made sense - I just instantly liked them because they were smaller, cuter forms of things I recognized. HOWEVER, at the same age, I also thought pokemon like Scizor and Steelix made no sense whatsoever (as you put it, why couldn't I evolve them in the first game?).
    That's just how marketing works I suppose LOL

  • @lawden210
    @lawden210 8 місяців тому +2

    The "Little baby me" illustrations were cute!

  • @Minimaos1
    @Minimaos1 8 місяців тому +1

    This was great. I watched more for the history line then from the title x)

  • @crazybirdybird4312
    @crazybirdybird4312 9 місяців тому +5

    2:50 I was around for gen 1 and I have never heard anybody saying that the sprites where better. They had more character yes, but not implying that they were better.
    Also, it was only after gen 3 that people really started complaining on new designs.

    • @mckinneym.2743
      @mckinneym.2743 9 місяців тому +1

      I think it depends on who you ask, I heard of folks who hated gen 2 when it came out. So I feel it depends

    • @assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756
      @assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 9 місяців тому

      ​@mckinneym.2743 maybe crystal squashed that opinion with the "animated" sprites

    • @crazybirdybird4312
      @crazybirdybird4312 8 місяців тому +2

      @mckinneym.2743 I was around back then, yes there where a few designs that people didn’t like, but there where gen 1 designs that people didn’t like also.
      If they didn’t like generation 2 it was mostly for other things, like being unable to get most of the new Pokémon until late game/post-game, the strange level gaps in the gyms, or female Pokémon having lower stats.
      So you might hear about people like that just because you come across people mocking those people all the time.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 8 місяців тому

      ​@@mckinneym.2743I don't think anyone hates Gen 2 designs, At worst they call them "Bland", Gen 2 is mostly seen as an extension of Gen 1

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark 8 місяців тому

      ​@@jesusramirezromo2037 I definitely have seen people hate the designs on gen 2. I personally am not a fan either, but it's definitely because of the uninspired direction they took with most of them - both artistically and mechanically, because boy do gen 2 Pokemon suck in battle (unless you're part of the very exclusive gen 2 cool kids club).

  • @AdeptCharon
    @AdeptCharon 8 місяців тому +4

    Any chance you'd wanna do these videos looking at the other generations? In theory most of them would be smaller but just as interesting and add to the big picture.
    Really appreciate the links in the description btw, I wish certain other channels did this.

  • @MrStart-nh6yi
    @MrStart-nh6yi 8 місяців тому +1

    Loved your art-style

  • @jeremypierreakajproject6750
    @jeremypierreakajproject6750 8 місяців тому +2

    Love this video 💯 🙏