I actually kinda like that decision, because if someone isn’t a fan of the pretentious hubris that a lot of Japanese villains exhibit, they can relate to Zack screaming “STFU” as a character that doesn’t want to listen to such monologues.
Original Zack feels so natural man. The performance, direction and of course the writing, all makes Zack feel like a real human being in the original game.
@@Loryuo Square has been doing that with their FF remakes recently. Don't know why, maybe the anime style made them want to compensate with equally exaggerated voice lines (which doesn't need to)
@@arzfan29 This just sounds more like a salty comment cuz you don't like that people don't like the new VA. The MAJORITY of the fanbase has agreed that they do not like the new voice actor as Zack. Does that mean that he's a bad VA suddenly? No. Does it mean that people are less likely to play the game in english? Yes. Jesus, it's simple, why get so emotional with something that is more a critique on the people that hired him for a job that he didn't fit for.
He feels a little awkward but I really like the new VA generally. People are just up in arms cuz Rick was literally the only VA. But Caleb has 2 games with Zack now and probably 3 now since Rebirth comes out at the end of the year.
That's what I've been saying to myself for the whole game, he does well in the last scene of Intergrade so he definitely has the capability for great va. Also even Briana falters in some places so it's not just Zack who struggles
@MrPlayfulShade wut? They both have the same script but in the og game Zack sounds appropriate for his age and his cheesy lines are delivered with a lot of charm. The new va isn't bad, or as bad as others say, but he still clearly lacked the proper voice direction.
@@Reflection554 Obviously a lot of hands had to drop the ball to get it to this point but tbh, the fact that there is a source material as a reference to the scene I would expect an actor that is being paid to reprise a role to reference back to Rick Gomez’s performance in the original to get the right inclinations and tones from the scenes. Tbh it kind of sounds like he’s reading off the script without really knowing what he is diving into. Direction plays a part but its weird to me that they nail 90% of the new voice cast and fumble with Zack and Seph in my opinion. Caleb is either serviceable or notably off beat to my ears. No hate to anyone that likes him though.
It's the part where he says "he just ate my hair" that really settles the tone between the two. The original sounds like he's in disbelief saying it to himself, the reunion sounds like he's telling it to somebody in a weird tone.
Hell even the "that's not even funny man" sounds like that. Like bruh why does he sound like he's far away. Lmao did they record him back stage or something?
That might just be another interpretation of what Zack would be feeling. Rather than just being angry, he just wants Genesis to piss off so he can talk to Angeal and not keep quoting a dorky play.
Its odd, sometimes his voice and delivery sounds fine. Others he has a very noticable nasally tone that probably should have had a retake for some lines.
yeah, the fucking nasal lines are what kills me and ruins it. Then there are some lines that lack emotion and oomph (some yelling lines). Asides from that, if it's just chill easy lines he can do those.
@@CelestialLimbo Yes. YES! This is exactly how it goes. Thank you for pointing that out properly because i had troubles deciding exactly why it feels off for me. The voice fits Zack but the delivery of some lines either lacks the punch or confidence.
@@Photo0021 Yrah, having only played the Reunion, I do think it works really well. I think the direction is honestly quite wonky, but the same goes for Aerith imo, and I don't remember any super awkward voice lines from her in Remake. Just bad/rushed direction for this. Not denying that the original could well be better. I'd love to play through Reunion with touched-up versions of the original voice lines, if that's possible. But the new ones definitely work.
To be fair, with everything Zack has been through at that point, why would he be confused about his hair being eaten. I feel like if I were Zack at that point I'd just be done with everything, the soldiers you looked up too all turned out to be psycotic, that the position you finally get into causes you to fall into this strange journey of dealing with their issues while you yourself are trying to live a normal life and have a relationship lol. I mean one thing to keep in mind is the game never really lingers on situations to long, Zack is just doing his job as soldier, rising to the Rank of First Class and then proceeds to be thrown into a situation where he's now the 2nd in command because two of the three soldiers go mad and Sephiroth is conflicted to deal with it because of how close he was to those two soldiers leaving Zack to have to deal with all this baggage while he also has to deal with the fact that his mentor is one of the two who have gone rogue. If anything it's be careful what you wish for, granted it's so conflicting because for Zack, if he wasn't First Class he would of never met Aerith, but again, if he wasn't First Class, then maybe he wouldn't of had to deal with all the tragedy that came for achieving a rank he sought after.
theyre both anime cringe trash??? idk how youre nitpicking the differences in the performances when neither are remotely close to how a real human would act or speak
Most modern abridged series have downright fantastic voice actors many of whom ended up poached to voice official dubs and video games. I’m not sure if it’s bad voice direction but a lot of the games VA have pretty flat deliveries and Zack is just miss cast. I honestly wish they had a setting to use the original Voices. Hell I’d pay extra for it.
Agreed that a lot of abridged series have incredible actors! I think the reason New Zack gives off the Abridger vibe is bc it feels more like a comedic delivery (as is common to abridged series) than the gravitas of a game proper. It’s a tone direction issue and he feels out of step with the general cast. Also the Genesis-talking-over-him scene feels like something straight out of an abridged dub. Mostly that one tbh
@@gamma00crucis Already talked about Project G in Remake part 1. They already brought back Dirge characters out of nowhere. They're releasing Crisis Core again right before Rebirth. These indicators are good enough for me.
Rick's performance as Zack has been one of the most memorable performances for me. I remember thinking when I was young that I hoped my voice would sound like his when I grew up. It doesn't LOL. I feel bad for Caleb. He has really big shoes to fill.
@@HollowRangiku wtf is wrong with you LMAO, why the fuck are you blaming the VA for taking an opportunity of a life time? if you wanna blame anyone how about blaming the director who directed his lines instead? dude probably has done more in his life than you tbh
@@HollowRangiku That's a bit harsh and unnecessary dude, the guy probably tried his best. While it's true he doesn't perform as well as Rick, he does have some good lines in there which tells me it's most likely an issue with the director more so than the actor himself. The only thing I would say about his voice is that it's a bit more nasally than what I would expect to hear from Zack, but he seemed to be capable of doing better.
@@thedoozydan he could have turned it down. but he showed up to audition for the role right? lol nobody forced him he sucks and hes a noob that caught a break it happens alot
I don’t know if the remaster had a different voice director, but with the new voice actor, sometimes he gets his line deliveries just fine, other times it sounds like he’s reading directly from the script. With Rick Gomez, he made Zack sound so genuine and earnest. He’s still the best voice for Zack hands down.
every other character sounds good, the new va is just shit, has nothing to do with the Director. He probably didn't have enough time with this idiot because he just doesn't know how to voice the character.
Considering the last ff7 compilation game was 7 remake, and this is closely emulating the original CC to the point of animation limitations, I would not be surprised if this was made to train new hires, even the VA’s
It is my long-held belief that Zack and Cloud bonding over coming from podunk towns is actually a pretty good basis for their friendship but the stupid delivery ruins it fully lol
These comparisons not only highlight how much of a step down Zack’s new voice is…but they also highlight how nearly everybody else did so well. IMO the new voices for Cloud and Genesis were nearly spot on! That’s what makes the quality of Zack’s voice even more frustrating!
@@raisylvaine8398 that's why I think its a weird direction issue. Remake Zack is what I always remembered him sounding like, so to hear it sound SO weird in Reunion is wild to me lmao
This feels like the situation when Xenoblade 2 got localized into English where Rex (the main protagonist) was butchered by a novice actor and several lines by other characters were occasionally directed poorly but the actual talent within the cast (except Rex’s actor) were actually incredible at many points
someone else summed it up perfectly. Original VA learned his lines and is putting performance into it, while the Remake VA is sounds like he is reading straight off the pages.
I think I just figured it out, the new VA sounds like he reads most lines as ending with a period. Every question or exclamation sounds like a declaration. It's not even that his voice is awful, though it's still definitely a step down from the original. There's just no character in what he's saying, I can literally see him reading the script as he's saying the lines. It felt like a performance for Rick, while feeling like a paycheck for Caleb.
If they wanted a more nasal Zack, they should've hired Fran Drescher. Seriously though, the difference in quality of the emotion in the voice acting between the two versions is so big. Rick Gomez rocked as Zack.
Yeah Cloud was way more emotional in Crisis Core then in FF7 he's like borderline silent protagonist vibes. I'm glad the FF7R makes him feel less dead inside because it has voice acting
He's totally screwed up by the time final fantasy 7 begins. The events of Crisis Core basically break him and turn him into a husk living someone else's life (Zack)
So like old genesis sounds like a theatre kid while new genesis sounds like a pompus rich kid, both are aannoying but in different ways Old Angeal sounds like a text to speech program new angeal sounds like that cool uncle Old Zack sounds like he's from the world he is in, new Zack sounds like they took one take and went with it every time
I decided to call the new Zack "Zonk". I just can't bring myself to look past the new voices. Been playing subbed until a voice mod comes out(or not...)
@@gamma00crucisHhe didn’t sound nassally to me in Japanese but he definitely is a lot more high energy and younger sounding than I expected. Ended up switching back to English even with the so/so VA.
@@gamma00crucis i really enjoy playing with his Japanese VA; he’s the same one from og crisis core and he is married to Aerith’s VA in real life (they had a child about a year ago!) so their scenes together have a very fun chemistry
To me, while I can enjoy and appreciate what the new VA gives, he kinda sounds like the main character of an R-rated comedy film compared to the hard, grittier version of the original. I can't quite put my finger on it, but that's the best way I can describe it.
He just does not sound cool at all. as a middle schooler playing this game on my psp Zack was an all around likable character, Rick’s performance really brought him to life, this guy just doesn’t have any soul in his voice acting
I like how Genesis in the original, emphasizes the word "abhors" during his dialogue. I know in the context that he is reciting lines from a play, but how he says them gives life. You feel the world threw away him just by emphasizing that word. While in the new remake.. he's just saying it. He sounds like he's trying to be elegant, but it is not working out 😂 And Zack's reaction in the new one, he sounds like that one kid in the back of the class that just hit his purity that just got super annoyed by one person who got a fact wrong. Like, "Umm actually " energy. It sounds like I'm complaining, fair enough, but I can't help but to laugh at this because I can't unhear this from my head 😂 Their voices for Zack and Genesis could've performed a whole different character, but not these two *EDIT*: This is my first time in their world of Final Fantasy besides 16, and I just heard his voice from Intergrade (and the Rebirth trailer), going to play that soon, but his voice actor's performance sound far better than he did here.
Gomez's Zack had so much emotion and he definitely made the character. Pierce's Zack sounds like they retcon'd everything people loved about Gomez's Zack and made him too stoic which doesn't suit the scenes, character, and makes the voiceover feel flat.
Zack's original voice was so better than in the remake. "Original" Zack has so much more emotion and character just because his voice actor is so great! And his line: "That's not even funny, man" is so much funnier on the PSP.
Its amazing how the old VA delivers the awkward/cringe dialogue because it sounds so natural that the new VA made me realise how awkward some of these lines are 😂 That being said, I think the new VA did a good job voice older Zack, its a hit/miss with the young version but he did what he could
He doesn't sound too bad in all those scenes. But Rick Gomez did an amazing job, its hard to live upto. The issue is as well, there are ALOT of pepole who work on these teams for voice acting, it's not just him, he had to audition, they had to do multiple takes, there are multiple people there listening in. So idk if they're all on meth or something. cause 7R voice direction and actors were all really good.
For the “He just ate my hair!” line, I love how Caleb sounds more annoyed about it than disturbed. Like it was more so an inconvenience on the same level as someone cutting in line 😂.
If they kept Rick Gomez this game would have been everything I would have ever wanted, but they ripped out the one thing that mattered most to me. Hoping that someone will mod the game to allow for the use of Rick Gomez's voice lines.
I feel the same. My heart is broken. Maybe that sounds stupid, because it's just a game, but then again maybe it's more than just a game and Zack is far more than just some pixels to us
I feel so bad for the new Zack voice actor because it's like the coughing baby vs the hydrogen bomb, he didn't stand a chance against Rick Gomez (not because he's bad, it's just that Rick is that good (and there's a strong bias after so many years with Rick))
Not to mention the script is awkward as hell to begin with. There’s nothing _wrong_ with his line delivery when the lines are… like _that._ It’s just that we have absolute dynamite to compare it to and on top of that nostalgia is a hell of a drug
Ive never played the OG crisis core but I love the performance of every single clip I’ve seen of the OG game. It’s one of those video game performances that I’m confident you can get a feel for the character just from the performance alone. In this case, from the OG clips, I’ve been able to pretty much tell that Zack is an upbeat, optimistic protag. He’s confident but not cocky. He’s pretty much cool without trying and he can say lines like “Me? Gongaga!” With a straight face and I’d half buy it. The other half, I’m laughing. The new guy… again. I haven’t played the OG Crisis Core but… this just doesn’t feel like how Zack is supposed to be. Correct me if I’m wrong. He’s saying all the things Zack said in the OG in all these clips but… still. I just ain’t feeling it…
RIP Gomez' voice acting. Am not a fan of this new voice actor at all. Original Zack felt like a master voice actor that I'll never forget, and he made the other cheesier characters like Angeal and Genesis not stick out so much just because of how amazing his performance was. Now, since they're all kind of off, I've been thinking about switching over to the Japanese audio.
I get that we all try to find our voice but man dude could hardly hit the mark more often then when he actually hit it on certain scenes which was rare. In the end we were given all knew voice actors for characters and at least everyone from Remake hit the mark. But I’m disappointed that Zack, (who I actually favor more then Cloud as a FFVII character) didn’t hit the lottery in the new VA department the way the new Cloud did.
"Thats not even funny man" dude zack RULES All the crazy ass tetsuya nomura dialogue and zack is the straight man goung "MAN WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON"
I don’t even mind the new voice. I quite like how he sounds, it’s just… some of the lines could have used a second take lol (assuming) Caleb doesn’t do voice dubs, taking the extra time to get it right would’ve been substantially beneficial. Maybe they had a really short period of time to record everything?
Part of what makes the original "Gongaga" so iconic is how it peaks just a lil. Obviously that's not intentional so it's unfortunately missing in the new one.
@@damienkun8786 i've only played ff7r out of this series (i got the honeybee club scene in my recommended once and thats what made me get it lmao) but even so 'no way he just ate my hair ☠️☠️☠️' still sounds kinda goofy to me man
English gaming voice actors don't get the respect they deserve. Half the time they get replaced without any good reason and sometimes without notice even if they voiced the character for many years like David Hayter (Solid Snake) and Patrick Seitz (Scorpion)
@@mr.awesome6011 that and seiyuu jp purist often shit on eng dubs assuming they're bad automatically switching to JP VA version too which makes publishers think hiring eng VAs is a waste of money so later entries they just stop having them dubbed at all. Atelier franchise is extremely guilty of this.
Zack’s old VA still did better job by far, but other’s? Nah, if you discard nostalgia, most of new casts in remake are doing better job here, other than Zack’s only Sephy’s new VA isn’t better than old VA, new guy still did very good job part 1 tho, he’s on par with the old voice.
I dunno.... I feel Cody Christian is a better Cloud than Steve Burton... Then again, I really can't blame Burton since he didn't have the chance to show his range.
The guy who voices Zack in the original played George Luz in Band of Brothers--an airborne trooper who had a funny scene involving impersonating a superior officer with his voice.
Reunion Zack's voice just sounds like one big meme. Like it's somehow a parody or something. It's so odd. In some of the dialogue, he sounds fine. In others, he's just so nasally and kind of whiny??? I can't get over it. 😂
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Original Zack: 😎
Reunion Zack: 🤓
Accurate
Lmao what, they both are dorks
@@vazazell5967 yes, but one of them has charm with the voice delivery XD
@@cafeokay452 This!
@@vazazell5967 the first dork is fun to hang around with
The second thinks hes funny but he's really just annoying
the fact that zack tells homie to shut up in the middle of his dorky ass monologue is killing me
Everyone when a villain starts monologuing. XD
It's what we all wanted to do everytime Genesis went on about Loveless.
@@strelitziamystery21 Genesis - LOVELESS LOVELESS LOVELESS LOVELSSS. Just to sum it up
Chaos.
I actually kinda like that decision, because if someone isn’t a fan of the pretentious hubris that a lot of Japanese villains exhibit, they can relate to Zack screaming “STFU” as a character that doesn’t want to listen to such monologues.
Original Zack feels so natural man. The performance, direction and of course the writing, all makes Zack feel like a real human being in the original game.
Yup. I feel bad for the new actor. Expectations way too high. No comparison
Neither of them are good
@@RS22NDSQUIRRELnah you guys are just garbage human beings fuck off to another franchise
@@RS22NDSQUIRREL from what i heard they were directed to voice it in this way. I don't really understand why they were directed that way though
@@Loryuo Square has been doing that with their FF remakes recently. Don't know why, maybe the anime style made them want to compensate with equally exaggerated voice lines (which doesn't need to)
gongaga's character model looks pretty nice in crisis core reunion
calling him gongaga is the funniest fucking thing
@@guywholikesgames7459 clearly not a guy who likes jokes
Aw man I just realized the unfunny one deleted it's comment. Guess I killed him
IM NEVER CALLING HIM ZACK AGAIN AFTER READING THIS
@@fujimxto what do you mewan with ZACK??? u mean gongaga right?
Original Zack's "Shut up I'm warning you" goes so hard, Reunion Zack's sounds like a kid's last one-liner before he gets stuffed in a locker
Original sound like someone that failed voice acting class
@@arzfan29 If that's the case, then Reunion sounds like some dude they picked off the street, because it's somehow worse
@@arzfan29 This just sounds more like a salty comment cuz you don't like that people don't like the new VA. The MAJORITY of the fanbase has agreed that they do not like the new voice actor as Zack. Does that mean that he's a bad VA suddenly? No. Does it mean that people are less likely to play the game in english? Yes. Jesus, it's simple, why get so emotional with something that is more a critique on the people that hired him for a job that he didn't fit for.
@@arzfan29 and yet it's still better than the VA they used in reunion.
😂😂😂💀
I blame the voice director more than this actor. Cause the actor does well in several places
If youre starring in a full length game you’ve gotta hit some right lol
He feels a little awkward but I really like the new VA generally. People are just up in arms cuz Rick was literally the only VA. But Caleb has 2 games with Zack now and probably 3 now since Rebirth comes out at the end of the year.
That's what I've been saying to myself for the whole game, he does well in the last scene of Intergrade so he definitely has the capability for great va. Also even Briana falters in some places so it's not just Zack who struggles
@MrPlayfulShade wut? They both have the same script but in the og game Zack sounds appropriate for his age and his cheesy lines are delivered with a lot of charm. The new va isn't bad, or as bad as others say, but he still clearly lacked the proper voice direction.
@@Reflection554 Obviously a lot of hands had to drop the ball to get it to this point but tbh, the fact that there is a source material as a reference to the scene I would expect an actor that is being paid to reprise a role to reference back to Rick Gomez’s performance in the original to get the right inclinations and tones from the scenes. Tbh it kind of sounds like he’s reading off the script without really knowing what he is diving into. Direction plays a part but its weird to me that they nail 90% of the new voice cast and fumble with Zack and Seph in my opinion. Caleb is either serviceable or notably off beat to my ears. No hate to anyone that likes him though.
It's the part where he says "he just ate my hair" that really settles the tone between the two. The original sounds like he's in disbelief saying it to himself, the reunion sounds like he's telling it to somebody in a weird tone.
"He JUST ate MY hair!"
EAT THIS
its like he's reading a line. terrible.
To me… The remake reminded me of the line: “But father when can I go to be on my OWN” from the new Pinocchio movie 😭😭😭
This and when he calls out for Angeal, it just sounds like a kid in a weird tone. Like they weren't sure how they should direct the line...
"that's not even funny, man."
that line gets me everytime. 🤣
he says it so quickly and it's so crunchy
It, in fact, was funny, man.
Zack’s “shut up” in the reunion sounds like someone in the back of the class. That’s the best way I can explain it 😂
😂😂😂
Hell even the "that's not even funny man" sounds like that. Like bruh why does he sound like he's far away. Lmao did they record him back stage or something?
Like the kid next to him in class just said his new haircut is gay
bro i fucking nearly choked laughing
That might just be another interpretation of what Zack would be feeling. Rather than just being angry, he just wants Genesis to piss off so he can talk to Angeal and not keep quoting a dorky play.
Its odd, sometimes his voice and delivery sounds fine. Others he has a very noticable nasally tone that probably should have had a retake for some lines.
They definitely told him to sound younger pre timeskip
Dude sounds like he thought he was reading for Sonic the Hedgehog
yeah, the fucking nasal lines are what kills me and ruins it. Then there are some lines that lack emotion and oomph (some yelling lines). Asides from that, if it's just chill easy lines he can do those.
@@JorgeM270 Zack still sounds like that when he is older in Reunion, otherwise it'd have made more sense maybe, yeah.
@@CelestialLimbo Yes. YES! This is exactly how it goes. Thank you for pointing that out properly because i had troubles deciding exactly why it feels off for me. The voice fits Zack but the delivery of some lines either lacks the punch or confidence.
Regardless of who delivers the line I don't think I'll ever stop loving Zack telling Cloud where he's from.
Gongaga
And now I finally fucking know what Gongaga is.
Me? Gongaga.
I don’t think I’ll stop loving the character. The original is better but the new one still “works” as Zach’s voice (most of the time).
@@Photo0021 Yrah, having only played the Reunion, I do think it works really well. I think the direction is honestly quite wonky, but the same goes for Aerith imo, and I don't remember any super awkward voice lines from her in Remake. Just bad/rushed direction for this.
Not denying that the original could well be better. I'd love to play through Reunion with touched-up versions of the original voice lines, if that's possible. But the new ones definitely work.
Regular Zack: "No way... he just ate my hair..." *Confusion*
Reunion Zack: "Uhhh.. THAT just happened!" *Looks at the camera, laugh track*
To be fair, with everything Zack has been through at that point, why would he be confused about his hair being eaten. I feel like if I were Zack at that point I'd just be done with everything, the soldiers you looked up too all turned out to be psycotic, that the position you finally get into causes you to fall into this strange journey of dealing with their issues while you yourself are trying to live a normal life and have a relationship lol.
I mean one thing to keep in mind is the game never really lingers on situations to long, Zack is just doing his job as soldier, rising to the Rank of First Class and then proceeds to be thrown into a situation where he's now the 2nd in command because two of the three soldiers go mad and Sephiroth is conflicted to deal with it because of how close he was to those two soldiers leaving Zack to have to deal with all this baggage while he also has to deal with the fact that his mentor is one of the two who have gone rogue. If anything it's be careful what you wish for, granted it's so conflicting because for Zack, if he wasn't First Class he would of never met Aerith, but again, if he wasn't First Class, then maybe he wouldn't of had to deal with all the tragedy that came for achieving a rank he sought after.
@@airget Grimno meant how it was said by the VA's, not necessarily that it was really like this or that.
(AFV theme playing in the background)
theyre both anime cringe trash??? idk how youre nitpicking the differences in the performances when neither are remotely close to how a real human would act or speak
@@lukelmaooooo "anime cringe trash"
Damn bro how else you gay?
New Zack sounds like a voice for an anime abridged series
Also the sheer comedy of the ‘shut up’ scene as Genesis fully talks right over him… genuinely hilarious
Considering most VA's from the FF vii abridged series were professional, I don't know if that is a compliment or not.
@@Gabex42It isn’t. The Abridged Zack was very good.
Most modern abridged series have downright fantastic voice actors many of whom ended up poached to voice official dubs and video games.
I’m not sure if it’s bad voice direction but a lot of the games VA have pretty flat deliveries and Zack is just miss cast.
I honestly wish they had a setting to use the original Voices. Hell I’d pay extra for it.
Agreed that a lot of abridged series have incredible actors! I think the reason New Zack gives off the Abridger vibe is bc it feels more like a comedic delivery (as is common to abridged series) than the gravitas of a game proper. It’s a tone direction issue and he feels out of step with the general cast.
Also the Genesis-talking-over-him scene feels like something straight out of an abridged dub. Mostly that one tbh
"Shut up! Shut up, I'm warning you!"
sums up how I feel about Genesis anytime he opens his mouth to spout his cringey ass lines
Seriously. Hes an annoying character. Can't wait for him to probably show up in Rebirth(sarcasm)
Low IQ take
@@awakenow7147 doubtful. is there literally any indication that he'll show up? or are you just being petty.
@@gamma00crucis Already talked about Project G in Remake part 1. They already brought back Dirge characters out of nowhere. They're releasing Crisis Core again right before Rebirth. These indicators are good enough for me.
Hopefully he will shut up now that he received the gift of the goddess.
It's amazing how fluid the old animation is for PSP game.
Check out the birth by sleep cutscenes, they're great
@@kyellebantog7720 that game had Zack using the "how about one date?" line on Aqua, and the animation and facial expressions were so on point
And it’s not amazing that they used them in Reunion. I was really disappointed when one of my favorite games got such a bad remakester
A lot of them were probably mocapped.
@@SaberRexZealot the thing is that it was mocap from 2000’s and it passed to the Reunion
The price of Rick Gomez is steep
oh, boy
Rick's performance as Zack has been one of the most memorable performances for me. I remember thinking when I was young that I hoped my voice would sound like his when I grew up.
It doesn't LOL. I feel bad for Caleb. He has really big shoes to fill.
@@HollowRangiku wtf is wrong with you LMAO, why the fuck are you blaming the VA for taking an opportunity of a life time? if you wanna blame anyone how about blaming the director who directed his lines instead? dude probably has done more in his life than you tbh
@@HollowRangiku That's a bit harsh and unnecessary dude, the guy probably tried his best. While it's true he doesn't perform as well as Rick, he does have some good lines in there which tells me it's most likely an issue with the director more so than the actor himself. The only thing I would say about his voice is that it's a bit more nasally than what I would expect to hear from Zack, but he seemed to be capable of doing better.
@@BvLee no, why is everyone else sound fine????
@@HollowRangiku "He chose that role..." It's obvious someone doesn't know how casting works
@@thedoozydan he could have turned it down. but he showed up to audition for the role right? lol nobody forced him he sucks and hes a noob that caught a break it happens alot
I don’t know if the remaster had a different voice director, but with the new voice actor, sometimes he gets his line deliveries just fine, other times it sounds like he’s reading directly from the script.
With Rick Gomez, he made Zack sound so genuine and earnest. He’s still the best voice for Zack hands down.
every other character sounds good, the new va is just shit, has nothing to do with the Director. He probably didn't have enough time with this idiot because he just doesn't know how to voice the character.
Considering the last ff7 compilation game was 7 remake, and this is closely emulating the original CC to the point of animation limitations, I would not be surprised if this was made to train new hires, even the VA’s
It is my long-held belief that Zack and Cloud bonding over coming from podunk towns is actually a pretty good basis for their friendship but the stupid delivery ruins it fully lol
Gongaga
Best part about Caleb Pierce as Zack was that he made "He just ate my hair!" just as ridiculous as it sounded.
Reunion Zack sounds like he's picking his nose
I thought the same thing in Remake when he said the "price of freedom is steep" just sounds nasily.
Maybe he is, you never know.
He sounds better
@@WaterDog1502 not to mention how cocky he sounded against a literal army
@@DigimonVids in no universe is this true
It’s like Rick watched the cutscenes, but Caleb didn’t…
Exactly
1000% percent. The new VA doesn't seem to know anything about the character or the setting.
Hard disagree. New voice actor is 10000% better. Old one sucked.
@@ryanolson356 The old one had more emotion throughout what he said, the new one tries but fails on it
@@ryanolson356 You’re a joke.
...yeeea, that voice-acting in Reunion is just... How can anyone in the production just sit there, listen to this and say "Yep, that's fine!" ?
As someone who never played the OG, i said that
As someone who hasn't even played any of the Crisis Core, I said that
Boomers at Square out of touch. They make Riku in KH sound absolutely wooden and awful in KH3 despite David Gallagher killing it in KH1/2.
@@philipboes1100 @rmejiarosales Are you both from the production-team? smh, proving my point, no idea what you are talking about.
@cicopathYeah, Caleb's voice for Zack in Rebirth is really good. In Crisis Core Reunion, the lines were weird cause of his delivery.
why does reunion Zack have sonic the hedgehog energy 😂😭😭
These comparisons not only highlight how much of a step down Zack’s new voice is…but they also highlight how nearly everybody else did so well. IMO the new voices for Cloud and Genesis were nearly spot on!
That’s what makes the quality of Zack’s voice even more frustrating!
I dont even think the new VA's voice is bad or anything, just some WILD direction that gives us the worst "Zack speaking" I've ever heard.
@@SackMan039 it makes it kinda weird because in Remake Zack sounds really good as well!
@@raisylvaine8398 that's why I think its a weird direction issue. Remake Zack is what I always remembered him sounding like, so to hear it sound SO weird in Reunion is wild to me lmao
This feels like the situation when Xenoblade 2 got localized into English where Rex (the main protagonist) was butchered by a novice actor and several lines by other characters were occasionally directed poorly but the actual talent within the cast (except Rex’s actor) were actually incredible at many points
@@TurboPikachu Rex’s actor at the time had only done live action stuff, so him being a bit awkward is understandable when having to dub over something
The way Caleb says Gongaga 💀
Glad to see I'm not the only one who found it weird.
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I love how absurdly bright the eyes are in the original game
this is actually a symptom of mako poisoning
They're supposed to be that way. Even the original FF7 covers this.
the remake sounds as if zack was voiced by a youtuber
someone else summed it up perfectly. Original VA learned his lines and is putting performance into it, while the Remake VA is sounds like he is reading straight off the pages.
the "angeaaal" scream from reunion was...... i dont even know how to say what it was.
Reading words off a page lol
I think I just figured it out, the new VA sounds like he reads most lines as ending with a period. Every question or exclamation sounds like a declaration. It's not even that his voice is awful, though it's still definitely a step down from the original. There's just no character in what he's saying, I can literally see him reading the script as he's saying the lines. It felt like a performance for Rick, while feeling like a paycheck for Caleb.
U can have a good voice but horrible at acting or you can be an incredible actor with a horrible voice lol
bingo 💯
Nothing will ever top the original "Me? Gongaga." Just the way it was delivered.
If they wanted a more nasal Zack, they should've hired Fran Drescher. Seriously though, the difference in quality of the emotion in the voice acting between the two versions is so big. Rick Gomez rocked as Zack.
Cloud actually laughed when Zack told him where he’s from. I played Crisis Core a long time ago but I’m so used to Cloud’s anti-social-ness from FF7R
Yeah Cloud was way more emotional in Crisis Core then in FF7 he's like borderline silent protagonist vibes. I'm glad the FF7R makes him feel less dead inside because it has voice acting
@@carito728 I mean, he had plenty of reasons to not act emotional, especially during the early portions.
He's totally screwed up by the time final fantasy 7 begins. The events of Crisis Core basically break him and turn him into a husk living someone else's life (Zack)
Ill never forget his “Lets mosey” like from the original
@@travisrees8939 that's not really what happens. FF7 Cloud and CC Cloud aren't even the same person to some degree.
The voice actor for Zack really needs some better voice direction; he sounds like he wasn’t really sure what to do at times.
Let it be known that the reunion VA was once a nickelodeon actor XD
Everyone else's reunion voice: 😌
reunion Zack: 🤓
If the audio, ain't peaking, then it ain't meme worthy
What even happened, everyones voices were near perfect and then... theres Zack
Yeah, literally the one character they couldn't mess up. The MAIN character. C'mon man.
Waiting for original voice mod... what were they thinking. You don't just replace THAT voice.
I still can’t believe they took out the “I’m trying! Im trying!!”
So like old genesis sounds like a theatre kid while new genesis sounds like a pompus rich kid, both are aannoying but in different ways
Old Angeal sounds like a text to speech program new angeal sounds like that cool uncle
Old Zack sounds like he's from the world he is in, new Zack sounds like they took one take and went with it every time
But Genesis voice lines are still the same, and AFAIK so does Angeal's
@@kings_mark its the delivery of the lines based on each voice actor they’re describing
@@Nita-lu6sn yup
The reunion version only makes it more a meme than already was lmao
I'm more amazed how Genesis's new voice actor sounds almost exactly like the old one (at least in this clip).
not to be dramatic but the new va is the literal reason why i can’t bring myself to touch reunion
Same
Same
Same. And I REALLY want to.
@@mr.s9783 there's a mod in the works that replaces the new va for Rick Gomez. Look it up, maybe it's finished
@@Frank_144 That's all well and good for PC players, but I've got a PS5.
I wish they could have just reused Rick's voice
Would've been nice, but with Zack being alive again in the remake, they needed a new VA to continue new alive zack
@@roxashusky Why lmao? Rick is alive
@@arelr6822 so is George Newbern yet they're not using him
@@zealousrunner7 They're using a new hollywood voice cast to promote the games basically. It's dumb.
The way the new VA’s gongaga really hits different now 😢
In a really really bad way. That scene was probably the worst, though they’re all bad except for one.
The OG sounded like he really grew up in the place, the new sounds like a tourist who can barely pronounce it.
I decided to call the new Zack "Zonk". I just can't bring myself to look past the new voices. Been playing subbed until a voice mod comes out(or not...)
I can't do that because Zacks jp VA is arguably worse than this new English VA. so nasally.
@@gamma00crucisHhe didn’t sound nassally to me in Japanese but he definitely is a lot more high energy and younger sounding than I expected.
Ended up switching back to English even with the so/so VA.
Ahahaha..I died reading this
@@gamma00crucis i really enjoy playing with his Japanese VA; he’s the same one from og crisis core and he is married to Aerith’s VA in real life (they had a child about a year ago!) so their scenes together have a very fun chemistry
@@mari-maylockhart2201 AWWHH THAT'S ACTUALLY CUTE
GIVE US RICK GOMEZ BACK GRAAHHHHHH
To me, while I can enjoy and appreciate what the new VA gives, he kinda sounds like the main character of an R-rated comedy film compared to the hard, grittier version of the original. I can't quite put my finger on it, but that's the best way I can describe it.
The gritty made Zack sound like a protagonist and added to his charm. He’s a goof but he’s a STRONG goof. Lol
He just does not sound cool at all. as a middle schooler playing this game on my psp Zack was an all around likable character, Rick’s performance really brought him to life, this guy just doesn’t have any soul in his voice acting
1:42 "No ❌ way...! He 🙋 just ate 🍽️ my haair!!"
I can't take Reunion Zack seriously!! His performance somehow changes the character and I'm in such disbelief that they ended up with this😭
I like how Genesis in the original, emphasizes the word "abhors" during his dialogue. I know in the context that he is reciting lines from a play, but how he says them gives life. You feel the world threw away him just by emphasizing that word.
While in the new remake.. he's just saying it. He sounds like he's trying to be elegant, but it is not working out 😂
And Zack's reaction in the new one, he sounds like that one kid in the back of the class that just hit his purity that just got super annoyed by one person who got a fact wrong. Like, "Umm actually " energy. It sounds like I'm complaining, fair enough, but I can't help but to laugh at this because I can't unhear this from my head 😂
Their voices for Zack and Genesis could've performed a whole different character, but not these two
*EDIT*: This is my first time in their world of Final Fantasy besides 16, and I just heard his voice from Intergrade (and the Rebirth trailer), going to play that soon, but his voice actor's performance sound far better than he did here.
The new Zack VA straight up sounds like a videogame youtuber lol
The new VA had big shoes to fill.
Sadly... he's still growing. They don't fit him just yet.
Gomez's Zack had so much emotion and he definitely made the character. Pierce's Zack sounds like they retcon'd everything people loved about Gomez's Zack and made him too stoic which doesn't suit the scenes, character, and makes the voiceover feel flat.
Zack's original voice was so better than in the remake. "Original" Zack has so much more emotion and character just because his voice actor is so great!
And his line: "That's not even funny, man" is so much funnier on the PSP.
Its like reunion made every line even more awkward
Its amazing how the old VA delivers the awkward/cringe dialogue because it sounds so natural that the new VA made me realise how awkward some of these lines are 😂
That being said, I think the new VA did a good job voice older Zack, its a hit/miss with the young version but he did what he could
Despite horrible scripts, ya, the old one can tell is acting
It’s CringeKino in a way
He doesn't sound too bad in all those scenes. But Rick Gomez did an amazing job, its hard to live upto. The issue is as well, there are ALOT of pepole who work on these teams for voice acting, it's not just him, he had to audition, they had to do multiple takes, there are multiple people there listening in. So idk if they're all on meth or something. cause 7R voice direction and actors were all really good.
For the “He just ate my hair!” line, I love how Caleb sounds more annoyed about it than disturbed. Like it was more so an inconvenience on the same level as someone cutting in line 😂.
If they kept Rick Gomez this game would have been everything I would have ever wanted, but they ripped out the one thing that mattered most to me. Hoping that someone will mod the game to allow for the use of Rick Gomez's voice lines.
I feel the same. My heart is broken. Maybe that sounds stupid, because it's just a game, but then again maybe it's more than just a game and Zack is far more than just some pixels to us
@@baumgeyst bro you're hurt over a voice
@@ShowtimeLaw u don’t get it , and that’s ok don’t be a hater ass B
@@RicardoGarcia-je4tc I don't care, that's the difference. The least of my worries regarding this remaster was Zacks voice
@@ShowtimeLaw ok Nancy, enough about that and let's talk about how inbred your twisted family is.
Zacks new voice is some Shenmue type shit.
I feel so bad for the new Zack voice actor because it's like the coughing baby vs the hydrogen bomb, he didn't stand a chance against Rick Gomez (not because he's bad, it's just that Rick is that good (and there's a strong bias after so many years with Rick))
holy fuck that’s the best way to put it
Not to mention the script is awkward as hell to begin with. There’s nothing _wrong_ with his line delivery when the lines are… like _that._ It’s just that we have absolute dynamite to compare it to and on top of that nostalgia is a hell of a drug
Same with Sephiroth. Except I don't feel bad lol
"He sounds like a kid" yes. Zack is 16 years old. He's a kid.
Ive never played the OG crisis core but I love the performance of every single clip I’ve seen of the OG game.
It’s one of those video game performances that I’m confident you can get a feel for the character just from the performance alone.
In this case, from the OG clips, I’ve been able to pretty much tell that Zack is an upbeat, optimistic protag. He’s confident but not cocky. He’s pretty much cool without trying and he can say lines like “Me? Gongaga!” With a straight face and I’d half buy it. The other half, I’m laughing.
The new guy… again. I haven’t played the OG Crisis Core but… this just doesn’t feel like how Zack is supposed to be. Correct me if I’m wrong. He’s saying all the things Zack said in the OG in all these clips but… still. I just ain’t feeling it…
Reunion Zack's "Me? Gongaga." isn't even good enough to make a Vinesauce joke out of.
Damn the original just blows this new one away. Sad we couldn’t get dual audio
"World Domination" "That's not even funny man" has to be one of my favourite interactions in the games.
Someone legit sat down and said "Yup. This is the perfect new voice for Zack."
New Zack sounds like he's slightly choking on his tongue.
Zack is the funniest character I have ever heard and the way his voice actor in reunion said all the remake meme line just top-tier
1:51 I don’t think I’ve had that good of a laugh in a while.
This entire video was great, but that just got me man
Hopefully mods will do this game justice. I'd love to play it with the original voice.
I was so weirded out by the new voice that I just went and switched to Japanese lol, made my playing experience so much more enjoyable
Came back here for some good laughs, I love these scenes in all their glory! I would love music comparisons, Reunion got slightly redone soundtracks
Nothing will ever beat how scruffy old Zack voice felt. Loved it
RIP Gomez' voice acting. Am not a fan of this new voice actor at all. Original Zack felt like a master voice actor that I'll never forget, and he made the other cheesier characters like Angeal and Genesis not stick out so much just because of how amazing his performance was. Now, since they're all kind of off, I've been thinking about switching over to the Japanese audio.
I get that we all try to find our voice but man dude could hardly hit the mark more often then when he actually hit it on certain scenes which was rare. In the end we were given all knew voice actors for characters and at least everyone from Remake hit the mark. But I’m disappointed that Zack, (who I actually favor more then Cloud as a FFVII character) didn’t hit the lottery in the new VA department the way the new Cloud did.
I love that they kept the very stilted line delivery so authentic
"Thats not even funny man" dude zack RULES
All the crazy ass tetsuya nomura dialogue and zack is the straight man goung "MAN WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON"
I don’t even mind the new voice. I quite like how he sounds, it’s just… some of the lines could have used a second take lol (assuming)
Caleb doesn’t do voice dubs, taking the extra time to get it right would’ve been substantially beneficial. Maybe they had a really short period of time to record everything?
*Pinches nose
Now I can sound like Reunion Zack too!
Can you sound as mentally retarded as the new Sephiroth tho?
this is exactly why im playing FF7R and CCR in JPN dub, because they kept the original VAs there.
Except Cloud’s VA cheated on his wife and is probably cancelled now 😬Doubt he’ll be in part 3
@@Branded.Schnoz this aint america tho lol
Part of what makes the original "Gongaga" so iconic is how it peaks just a lil. Obviously that's not intentional so it's unfortunately missing in the new one.
Sometimes the new VA sounds like what stereotypical English Anime VAs sound like
The memes of the original will never be forgotten from the minds of the Law.
After playing all the way through Rebirth... I still miss Zack's OG voice actor...
The Reunion “That’s not even funny man” is actually funnier I think. The way he delivers it sounds like he’s asking “are you high?” 😂
I feel like crisis core could’ve been a full remake with different dialogue
They did change some of the dialogue.
@@lsruler and graphically its closer to remake.
I’ve never played the game so I’m guessing that in context it’s very serious but out of context it sounds funny as hell.
welcome to final fantasy.
Blame Zacks VA
@@damienkun8786 i've only played ff7r out of this series (i got the honeybee club scene in my recommended once and thats what made me get it lmao) but even so 'no way he just ate my hair ☠️☠️☠️' still sounds kinda goofy to me man
Never?!...Blasphemy!
Original "Me? Gongaga." hits different.
That last clip hits home lmao
The old voice cast is better. Them replacing the old ENG ones whilst keeping the JPN ones speaks volumes.
English gaming voice actors don't get the respect they deserve. Half the time they get replaced without any good reason and sometimes without notice even if they voiced the character for many years like David Hayter (Solid Snake) and Patrick Seitz (Scorpion)
@@mr.awesome6011 that and seiyuu jp purist often shit on eng dubs assuming they're bad automatically switching to JP VA version too which makes publishers think hiring eng VAs is a waste of money so later entries they just stop having them dubbed at all. Atelier franchise is extremely guilty of this.
Zack’s old VA still did better job by far, but other’s? Nah, if you discard nostalgia, most of new casts in remake are doing better job here, other than Zack’s only Sephy’s new VA isn’t better than old VA, new guy still did very good job part 1 tho, he’s on par with the old voice.
I dunno.... I feel Cody Christian is a better Cloud than Steve Burton...
Then again, I really can't blame Burton since he didn't have the chance to show his range.
square just keeps getting worse over the years
Reunion Zack sounds pissed off talking about Gongaga, doesn't sound like he's running with the joke at all
The guy who voices Zack in the original played George Luz in Band of Brothers--an airborne trooper who had a funny scene involving impersonating a superior officer with his voice.
We just love the way Genesis trips Zack in the original- The animation is perfect-
Reunion Zack's voice just sounds like one big meme. Like it's somehow a parody or something. It's so odd. In some of the dialogue, he sounds fine. In others, he's just so nasally and kind of whiny??? I can't get over it. 😂
I'm so sorry but the new VA for Zack sounds like Sonic the Hedgehog
It's when the new va calls out to Angeal for me...
I just thought, little kid lmao
Zach sounds like a balding 35 year old GameStop employee
Hopefully they give us an update with an option to use the original VAs I'll glady replay this again