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  • @JayniacJr
    @JayniacJr  2 роки тому +676

    Embrace your dreams. And whatever happens, protect your honor...as SOLDIER!

    • @avid_arts
      @avid_arts 2 роки тому +5

      Based video my dude

    • @Omnishredder
      @Omnishredder 2 роки тому +11

      This rings heavily for us first soldiers... and I'm grateful to hear that I'm not the only one who wants to have that option to use the old voice lines as rick did us proud and made it fit

    • @solacewind
      @solacewind 2 роки тому +3

      It's a very sad thing ngl. Ff7 crisis core really impacted my life a lot when I was a kid aswell. I didn't know the original VA wasn't returning so when I booted up the game, I was immediately saddened by it. No shade to the new voice actor but the delivery is horrible. This whole thing makes me want to revisit the psp version again at some point in the future.

    • @1eye1tear95
      @1eye1tear95 2 роки тому +4

      Jayniac Jr. If the new voice of Zack can be a voice actor so can you I think you should do it

    • @quentixhope
      @quentixhope 2 роки тому +9

      COME AND GET IT!!

  • @ImCarpet
    @ImCarpet 2 роки тому +1562

    It’s crazy how much a voice can change a character. All the lines are the same but he feels like a completely different person.

    • @dachristiangamer
      @dachristiangamer 2 роки тому +81

      Yup cause I actually don’t like Zack anymore it’s crazy

    • @dachristiangamer
      @dachristiangamer 2 роки тому +20

      @@Dangangela6565 nah, maybe 🤔 it’s your fault

    • @CrazySuperJEBUS
      @CrazySuperJEBUS 2 роки тому +8

      @@Dangangela6565 nah, it’s just a bad characterization.

    • @pooolish334
      @pooolish334 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly!!

    • @CrimsonBladezz
      @CrimsonBladezz 2 роки тому

      both voices are trash

  • @Kayleenv18
    @Kayleenv18 2 роки тому +1146

    I absolutely miss the original voice actor for Zack, his voice was so reassuring and strong. The new voice actor just isn’t Zack

    • @edgeofsins
      @edgeofsins 2 роки тому +50

      New voice actor just sucks. Not even about whether it's what really expresses the character. Just why would they have voice actors with poor pacing and bad show of emotions or depth

    • @CDodger24
      @CDodger24 2 роки тому +35

      Sephiroth's voice too. The old VA has that menacing aura and authority that the new one lacks.

    • @ZeroDuckThirty
      @ZeroDuckThirty 2 роки тому +18

      He lacks the emotion compared to Rick's delivery. IMO CCR feels like their voices got pulled out of a Musou game, and that's an insult to Musou games

    • @freshnesbro3792
      @freshnesbro3792 2 роки тому +6

      @@CDodger24 idk at least he doesn't sound so fkn bad as zack

    • @nevertellmethaoddz8581
      @nevertellmethaoddz8581 2 роки тому +2

      @@CDodger24 I think he did a bit better in CC Reunion than the Remake

  • @aboutschween
    @aboutschween 9 місяців тому +6

    post-rebirth now... caleb's performance (at least in my eyes) has improved MULTITUDES. i think some of the weirdness might have to be very much on the voice director's part. caleb shined in Rebirth- it might have been because of Reunion that his performance got so much better- but either way i WISH that Reunion's Zack sounded as good as Rebirth's.

  • @VXMasterson
    @VXMasterson 2 роки тому +358

    I haven't played Crisis Core but based off of the clips shown, my takeaway is:
    Rick Gomez feels like he's in the zone and enjoying what he's doing.
    Caleb Pierce sounds like he's just reading words off the paper and reciting them, not acting out a scene.

  • @Pca32227
    @Pca32227 2 роки тому +150

    I think we all loved Zack because he not only was confident (which sometimes can lead to being annoying and arrogant) but he was kind and wanted to be good with everyone, he was a team worker, didn't want all the praise for himself, but for his friends too. There is a lot to admire and to aspire to be in Zack.

  • @PetrichorProblems
    @PetrichorProblems 2 роки тому +88

    OG Zack flirting with Aerith at the park is 😳
    New Zack flirting with Aerith at the park is 🤓

  • @KlaviceGavin
    @KlaviceGavin 7 місяців тому +4

    Zack’s new voice sounds like a kid at the back of the class trying to give an answer but just got sent to the principal’s office. 😂

  • @thogameskanaal
    @thogameskanaal 2 роки тому +543

    Fans: “By the way, ... do you know Rick Gomez?”
    Nomura: “Sort of...”
    Fans: “Talked to him?”
    Nomura: “No.”
    Fans “Shouldn't you do something?”
    Nomura: ”No.”

    • @TheLegendOfLame
      @TheLegendOfLame 2 роки тому +59

      Alright what is with people and blaming Nomura for everything? Nomura didn't even work on Crisis Core Reunion (at least not to the extent people seem to think he did), and he was only character designer for the original psp game

    • @thogameskanaal
      @thogameskanaal 2 роки тому +26

      @@TheLegendOfLame that's the joke. Sorry if that wasn't obvious enough.
      Though, Nomura can stand up for himself. He can take it I imagine. People have been unfairly criticizing him since at least the Kingdom Hearts III reveal in 2013 and attribute EVERY negative thing to him. I can't take people seriously anymore, so I started just using blaming stuff on Nomura as a joke.

    • @Ahmed-og2jm
      @Ahmed-og2jm 2 роки тому +6

      @@thogameskanaal interesting..

    • @TheLegendOfLame
      @TheLegendOfLame 2 роки тому +10

      @@thogameskanaal got ya, sorry. I'm used to people doing that legitimately all the time and it gets on my nerves. He is not the ultimate downfall of the company like everyone acts like he is.

    • @WhoTao00
      @WhoTao00 2 роки тому +9

      Jokes aside, Nomura probably doesn't care or even know about the changes by localization team. He probably goes "What people's complaining about? Zack still have same voice"
      JP Zack still have the same voice, Kenichi Suzumura who is the husband of Maaya Sakamoto, Aerith's voice.

  • @BrokuTheSonofSparda
    @BrokuTheSonofSparda 10 місяців тому +4

    9:21 Zack is my favorite video game character too along with Dante/Vergil it’s just not same without Rick Gomez voice I’m hoping the voice actor for Dante Reuben Langdon didn’t actually get replaced for the new Dmc anime or future games

  • @hopeestheim7285
    @hopeestheim7285 2 роки тому +380

    I miss Rick Gomez he did great job as Zack Fair

  • @Belagu1
    @Belagu1 2 роки тому +115

    Anytime I wanted to give up and call it quits, I just thought of Zack. This make me feel much better.

  • @TwilightKeon
    @TwilightKeon 2 роки тому +72

    I am going to put this as simple as I can.
    Rick Gomez feels like he's living as the character. Just about every line he says I can totally believe that's him as the character he breathes life into them.
    Caleb other hand sounds like he's reading directly from a script and doesn't put any real emotion into his lines.

  • @whooah
    @whooah 11 місяців тому +20

    I have to say i definitely love "AWESOOOME! WE'RE GONNA FAIL!" line change. Made me laugh out loud

  • @Carlisho
    @Carlisho 2 роки тому +111

    Out of all the characters that Square had to get the new voice right, it was Zack, and they bombed it. Whats frustrating is that we complained about the new voice since the 7Remake ending, they had plenty of time to make it right… yet they didnt.

    • @drekagaming
      @drekagaming Рік тому +10

      Remake was my introduction to ff7 and even I was taken a back on zacks voice acting. I had to search up the original scene to see if I was trippin 😭 I will say tho his second take on that final cutscene was a bit better than his ff7r take. There’s no point for asking Rick Gomez back so I’m just hoping that he or the directors for the voice acting improves

  • @npaul5962
    @npaul5962 Рік тому +26

    I really appreciate your heart to heart at the end. I was going through a tough time in my life with lots of surgery, my gf gave me her PSP with Crisis Core. I cried like a baby at the end, because Zack never gives up. So I can't either.

  • @marbarosi
    @marbarosi 2 роки тому +496

    I love how the community is generally fighting back about his voice! seeing this everywhere. His new voice ( no offence to the voice actor) is NOT him. It's too boy or kiddish. It lacks depth. Almost like they dumbed him down it feels. I hope they release this for PART 2 and change it back.

    • @WanderingNerd21
      @WanderingNerd21 2 роки тому +14

      I doubt it

    • @alphardkento
      @alphardkento 2 роки тому +21

      they probably won't...

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 2 роки тому +49

      Nah they dont care. I do wish they give us a patch or a voice pack with the original voice audio as an option

    • @1eye1tear95
      @1eye1tear95 2 роки тому +24

      The most effective way to fight back is not buying the game

    • @martyrodriguez1524
      @martyrodriguez1524 2 роки тому +4

      @@1eye1tear95 yup

  • @sukanya90
    @sukanya90 2 роки тому +14

    "The prize of old VA is steep." -s.e probably

  • @DJ_LilPaycheck
    @DJ_LilPaycheck 2 роки тому +38

    It's amazing how much a voice can entirely change a character

  • @theexpert758
    @theexpert758 6 місяців тому +2

    A big thing too is we probably all played zach originally as young teens, psps life span was kinda niche. he was really important to a lot of us in a really important time of our lives. This was the first ff i bear start to finish. I loved this dude so much. So when its not the same we definitely see it cause we remember him giving such a great performance.

  • @JK-xn4mj
    @JK-xn4mj 10 місяців тому +3

    Crisis Core is one of my favourite games of all time. I had never completed a super secret FF boss until CC. But now I can’t even bear to play CCR until someone completes the Rock Gomez full voice mod via AI.

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA 2 роки тому +14

    As a voice acting hopeful myself, this kind of thing is extremely important to me. I've been told in a couple sessions that I have sounded flat or my cadence was samey. So it's a bit strange when hearing the new VA's delivery being just that but for a multi-million dollar franchise. The direction is completely out of this world.

  • @hopefaith4595
    @hopefaith4595 2 роки тому +12

    One thing I do like in that inn scene is that the OG voice did great at making Zack’s voice sound like he is on the bed (like what posture Zack is in affects how his voice sounds like)

  • @shanliekpop
    @shanliekpop 2 роки тому +204

    You pretty much summed up my same feelings. So far the casting has been almost perfect for the remake, I wish I could understand why Zack had to be so different.

    • @joshz2491
      @joshz2491 2 роки тому +2

      My theory is that Square probably looked at the original performance and thought that it was too expressive for someone in soilder. It’s essentially military right? I also think that they wanted Zack to feel younger and even a bit unsure of things. The performance in remake in particular really reflects that to me.

    • @mooganify
      @mooganify 2 роки тому +5

      Well it could just be a mistake.

    • @freshnesbro3792
      @freshnesbro3792 2 роки тому

      @@joshz2491 wouldn't make any sense when the rest goes crazy and still sounds like someone, not some soulless husk, they just fucked it up or the new VA is trash, because he just sounds like nothing. Extremely boring.

  • @willdoelol
    @willdoelol 9 місяців тому +3

    As painful as it was seeing Peter Parker's face being changed in the Spider-Man games, nothing hurts more than hearing Caleb Pierce absolutely butcher the work of Rick Gomez.

  • @holographicwing
    @holographicwing 5 місяців тому +1

    The hardest part of all of this is the fact that because we have experienced Rick Gomez and knew what the perfect Zack voice was we can't unhear how nasally and nerdy the new Zack is. Square Enix please fix this for part 3.

  • @tadashihatsudai
    @tadashihatsudai 10 місяців тому +3

    I mainly prefer Japanese audio whenever possible but I used to only have access to games in English only, especially during the era when the OG Crisis Core for PSP came out. And boy did Rick Gomez surpassed my expectations of English dubbing! I played the English game on PSP and watched the cutscenes again on UA-cam in Japanese. I was also a huge fan of Kenichi Suzumura’s performance, and Rick’s ability to match his energy is out of this world! I don’t think many voice actors are able to do that.
    I’d argue the same for George Newbern. He has mentioned in convention Q&As that while he can’t speak as deep as Morikawa, he opted for different ways to find his Sephiroth voice. The slight raspy voice became THE definitive English Sephiroth voice and it really stuck. Since I’m a bilingual native Japanese speaker I tend to be extra critical of English dubs so George and Rick (also Steve Blum) are top tier VAs.

  • @ryan3371
    @ryan3371 11 місяців тому +3

    Caleb Pierce literally just read the lines as if he's in school, No emotion, no acting. Shit
    Whoever was voice directing did not do their job but that doesn't excuse caleb's performance. Completely FUCKED up a MAJOR charactor

  • @tounsinour5907
    @tounsinour5907 2 роки тому +124

    The new zack voice sounds like 🤓

  • @thelostzelda
    @thelostzelda 10 місяців тому +2

    The second I heard the voice I was like "Japanese with English subs it is then."

  • @fantaconsumer
    @fantaconsumer 2 роки тому +32

    Bro on Weenie Hut Jr timing💀

  • @deftech5072
    @deftech5072 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m in the minority I’m sure but I appreciate Zack’s new voice.
    His character never read as a badass to me. He doesn’t start as first class he has to earn it and when he does he has no idea what he needs to be doing. His character has no clue what he should do so he just confidently does what he believes is the right thing in his heart.
    So I think the dorky sounding Zack works and I like seeing him grow.

  • @xXOpenYourHeart759Xx
    @xXOpenYourHeart759Xx Рік тому +27

    Every other one of the new voice actors still represent their original characters. Zack's changes his significantly. I don't know why the most jarring and out of place change was so strong for such a major character. His new voice is the only one that detracts from the characterization. I don't know how the devs were in favor of this.

  • @rheanonjasmyne
    @rheanonjasmyne Рік тому +4

    I could forgive them screwing up with SEPHIROTH's VA but NOT ZACH 's VA !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @yummy90the2nd
    @yummy90the2nd Рік тому +8

    Not having Zack's personality in the remake is really a deal breaker for me, I liked Zack because of how he moves forward despite how everything's changing around him

  • @Silenthero66
    @Silenthero66 2 роки тому +2

    7:40 Jesus lord above he sounds like a stereotypical gay man. Like tell me I'm wrong, that's exactly what this sounds like.

  • @Zero-xl2ef
    @Zero-xl2ef 2 роки тому +38

    Had to turn the Japanese voice instead of English cus the new Zack VA is cringe and horrible af. Hate how he sounds. Rick Gomez gave heart and soul to Zack and it was one of the reasons I fell in love with the character

  • @rbsdynx
    @rbsdynx 2 роки тому +10

    I love „Awesome, we’re gonna fail” a lot more 😭

  • @sakuracardcaptor4709
    @sakuracardcaptor4709 2 роки тому +178

    Rick Gomez is the true voice of Zack fair! ❤

    • @jad1nsmitzh
      @jad1nsmitzh 2 роки тому +6

      I agree 🙏🏾

    • @kwonk5298
      @kwonk5298 Рік тому +1

      Sorry Caleb but Rick is on top

  • @keikochii9124
    @keikochii9124 2 роки тому +2

    Rick Gomez could of re-voiced Zack, defending the change because Zack was 16 at the beginning, and then 23 is a lame excuse. When I was in school, I remember so many teens with deeper voices than some men I encountered.

  • @nachot6592
    @nachot6592 2 роки тому +344

    Let us not sugar coat it, please. His new VA is atrocious.

    • @henrytownshend6441
      @henrytownshend6441 2 роки тому +26

      Agreed

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 2 роки тому +14

      DAAAAAAMNNNN

    • @xRaineDropsx
      @xRaineDropsx 2 роки тому +21

      Atrocious is putting it lightly.

    • @fearlesscheshirecat1411
      @fearlesscheshirecat1411 2 роки тому +1

      No he’s not. All of you purists just have your own preconceived notions of what he should sound like.
      He was perfectly fine. He has way more emotion than Rick Gomez. I’ve watched Rick in several shows and he’s monotone in all of them.
      God you purists are annoying as sh*t.

    • @TheManaTree777
      @TheManaTree777 2 роки тому +18

      You exaggerate. He sounds fine.

  • @Delacroif
    @Delacroif 2 роки тому +242

    Well said! I totally agree with you. I wish Square Enix would release a DLC with the original voices. That would be perfect. The new fans would see a huge difference with Zack and why he is so loved!

    • @richardsouffrant8442
      @richardsouffrant8442 2 роки тому +7

      That's a great idea him and sephiroth both they have that feature for ff15

    • @Brkmp_
      @Brkmp_ 2 роки тому +2

      Also the original Soundtrack

    • @asakapala12345678
      @asakapala12345678 2 роки тому +12

      If SE can't release a DLC like that, it should be someone who can mod it to replace all VA or just Zack's

    • @EdgeGilid
      @EdgeGilid 2 роки тому +6

      I'm afraid that newer players might not have that same connection with zack cuz of his voice...

    • @talancorwell
      @talancorwell 2 роки тому +4

      @@asakapala12345678 I want this. Old Zack and new Aerith together, PLEASE

  • @whimsycottt
    @whimsycottt 2 роки тому +162

    I feel that Caleb's voice is just too high pitched and nasally. I guess it could work for 16 year old Zack, but not when he's older.
    It's also my preference, but I prefer Rick's choices over which words to enunciates over Caleb. Maybe Caleb was given different direction from the voice director? Like the part where Zack says "What the hell did you do Angeal?"
    Rick's delivery was "What the HELL did you DO ANGEAL?" versus Caleb's fairly flat delivery, which tries to imitate Rick's cadence but not going as extreme. Rick's delivery was much more expressive since you can clearly hear him getting louder and ending up with a higher pitch LOUD voice, whereas Caleb's seems to be around the same volume and ended with a lower pitch, to the point where it sounds more quiet in the end.

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 2 роки тому +8

      I don't understand what the Voice Director was thinking. I can see that Caleb tried to sound like Rick. "Sephiroth? Long time no see!"
      That line. Rick gave a shocking high pitched voice when he said his name and then changed his voice so it's deeper for the "long time no see" but I feel like Caleb couldn't really deepen his voice enough to do that. But I can tell that he tried to.

    • @REChronic54
      @REChronic54 2 роки тому +2

      I mean I don’t really have a problem with going for a more higher pitched Zack. The Japanese VA is pretty much that. It’s really just the line delivery.

    • @BunnyCakes
      @BunnyCakes 2 роки тому +1

      @@REChronic54 I chuckle when people say they're switching to Japanese lol.

  • @Mlensed
    @Mlensed 2 роки тому +166

    Playing though Japanese dub because I didn’t want to listen to Caleb. It’s a great dub and remembered that Zacks VA is married to Aeriths VA irl and you can tell the chemistry is there lol

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 2 роки тому +6

      Sure if you understand JP

    • @Xehangetsu
      @Xehangetsu 2 роки тому +42

      @@SemekiIzuio then read

    • @marklee9389
      @marklee9389 2 роки тому +24

      I adore both the original english dub and japanese dub but couldn’t stand the new english dub. Definitely playing it on japanese.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 2 роки тому +6

      @@Xehangetsu right cause reading dialogue alone portrays such chemistry

    • @shin0012
      @shin0012 2 роки тому +6

      @Semeki Izuio they still got jp voice with eng text/dialogue, so not like there isnt chemistry between two married VAs acting out their lines. better than what remake eng dub zack is giving out and yes even reading dialogue between characters can give off chemistry if the writer/s talented enough. light novels, web novels, manga, romance novels do that.

  • @BlastingBigLoads2
    @BlastingBigLoads2 Рік тому +4

    8:52
    Felt that, along with Zach and other characters. About to play CCR myself to relieve the early years of me being an ff fan

  • @johnsnake3467
    @johnsnake3467 6 місяців тому +2

    The new voice is is just so bad. It’s not just the delivery, that damn nasal twang does my head in. Not having the original voice is literally the whole reason I don’t want to touch reunion, even though Crisis Core (PSP) is one of my favourite games.

  • @ethanchaotic
    @ethanchaotic 2 роки тому +81

    Amazing video jayniac, as a voice actor you portrayed the thoughts execently, i always thought it was a shame they were recast but zack is easily the most noticeable

  • @minilegion
    @minilegion 2 роки тому +2

    I hate to say this but if Square Enix sell Rick Gomez’s voice as DLC, I’ll but it. I want my boi old voice back.

  • @dvornikovalexei
    @dvornikovalexei 2 роки тому +4

    This VA is the only reason i have put my favourite of all time on hold for now. If they don't have a mod, I'll play Japanese

  • @lolcat
    @lolcat 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know how remake Zack managed to pull aerith 😭

  • @mobpego1345
    @mobpego1345 2 роки тому +42

    I think people shouldn’t blame the VA he’s just doing his job but people should blame the director because they’re in charge

  • @LeahThe3th
    @LeahThe3th 10 місяців тому +1

    Just wanted to leave a positive comment, I'm really glad to finally come across the content that I'm really looking for in the context of problematic choices and/or changes to games, a vision that shows respect to both angles, clear ways in how one works better than the other instead of just saying "listen to how bad it sounds!" and not pushing hard on making jokes at the expense of the lower quality voice acting.
    I'm really not a fan of the new voice acting either, but it's great to just have a nice, calm take that's focusing more on the positives of the original rather than the negatives of the new one, and it's really touching hearing what the character means to you, and again, using that in a positive light to elevate Rick Gomez's performance, instead of weaponizing it against Caleb Pierce.

  • @PrincessNine
    @PrincessNine 2 роки тому +47

    Rick prior to Crisis Core was already an established talented character actor. So he flexs that all throughout the projects he plays Zack.
    Idk wtf Caleb Pierce's is doing

    • @AnakinSkywakka
      @AnakinSkywakka 2 роки тому +7

      He did great in Band of Brothers as Luz.

  • @joshuastorm6608
    @joshuastorm6608 10 місяців тому +2

    Rick Gomez & OG cast 100%

  • @KrazyKoto
    @KrazyKoto 2 роки тому +103

    I'm really glad someone did a video on this. I am unfortunately in the same camp. I really wanna like Caleb pierce, but he feels so... inexperienced.
    Imo, it sounds like he concentrates too much on trying to make a voice and sound young that it impairs his delivery. There are even times in the game where it sounds like he is just reading his lines, not acting them. Maybe he was missing context for some of these scenes, but it really broke my immersion.
    While I love Rick Gomez, I would still gladly embrace another voice actor doing Zack... but they have to sound the part. They need to be good enough that I don't pause and wince at a line read. I wanna focus on the story and the characters. All respect to Caleb. I wish he had better direction.. or just... maybe been recast into another role, just not this one.

    • @WeWillShowMercy
      @WeWillShowMercy 2 роки тому +5

      This is exactly how I feel... some of the lines... unfortunately sound like a grade school student attempting to read something out of a textbook to the class ☹️ Sometimes I am in shock by the line direction/final product... But hey, it's not over appalling... just not that same gung-ho Zack with his zeal for excellence and righteousness willing to take on the world and deliver on truth

    • @sunnecas
      @sunnecas Рік тому +1

      The voice directing needs to get better honestly. Caleb just doing what he's told to rlly, it sounds subpar to us but the director thought it was good enough

    • @drekagaming
      @drekagaming Рік тому

      I think it’s because he IS inexperienced. There’s an interview on UA-cam and he said this this was his FIRST time voice acting a game. I’m not sure if it’s his first time voice acting in general but if that’s the case I don’t have a clue why they would hire him 😭😭

    • @tadashihatsudai
      @tadashihatsudai 10 місяців тому

      In that case, he’s kinda shooting himself in the foot for agreeing to be a part of it. One doesn’t learn how to climb by going up Mt. Everest. He needs a better agent and get different roles.

  • @LoneWolfOtaku
    @LoneWolfOtaku 2 роки тому +2

    Why couldn't they keep the original audio from the original Crisis Core as a selectable option in Reunion?

  • @MrDelta01
    @MrDelta01 2 роки тому +8

    Sir, you spoke facts and agree with everything you said. They picked the wrong guy for Zack’s voice. Period.

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer 2 роки тому +2

    I've tried to like Caleb's performance. But it just doesn't work for me. I'm not sure if its the fact that he's been given literally the same lines and direction or what. Right from the jump his performance at the end of FF7 Remake told us all we needed to know. It just wasn't gonna match let alone hold a candle to Rick Gomez's. Its confusing that Square would even think to get a new voice for Zack. I understand that FF7 Remake is its own thing. But they already established that Crisis Core and the rest of the Compilation of FF7 exist in a totally different continuity. So what was even the point of changing the voice actors? They didn't add anything to the game's story to connect it to Remake.

  • @JasLamArr91
    @JasLamArr91 2 роки тому +149

    It’s not just Zack. Square Enix is getting slack when it comes to vocal performances in their new games.

    • @xestalfer5774
      @xestalfer5774 2 роки тому +44

      Case in point, Kingdom hearts. The voice directions are awful, its only the talented voice actors that carry it to make sound better than its supposed to.

    • @JasLamArr91
      @JasLamArr91 2 роки тому +21

      @@xestalfer5774 I agree with you. The only time I felt like the vocal direction and delivery flowed better, was in the first Kingdom Hearts. Then its like from 2 on up, they started saying lines awkwardly and talked slow and put pauses inbetween words.

    • @1eye1tear95
      @1eye1tear95 2 роки тому

      Don't buy from them anymore

    • @AnakinSkywakka
      @AnakinSkywakka 2 роки тому +9

      @@JasLamArr91 I would argue the dub is having difficulty with the lip sync/character interactions.

    • @JasLamArr91
      @JasLamArr91 2 роки тому +4

      @@AnakinSkywakka I definitely agree with you on that one!

  • @youngman.6495
    @youngman.6495 Рік тому +2

    Sephiroth and Zack old voices was just perfect for me.

  • @bigsnake3130
    @bigsnake3130 2 роки тому +32

    It's not even just nostalgia-boner for Rick Gomez's voice at this rate, his voice is just very satisfying sounding while giving such a great performance as Zack even despite the somewhat awkward script at times in the original. His voice is like a smooth deepness, not too deep or too high, and especially not nasally sounding. Funnily thing, there's a bug in the game which has the old VA's lines play instead of the new VA's and it serves as a day-and-night comparison to how unbearable the new voice is compared to the old one.

    • @anthonyf616
      @anthonyf616 Рік тому

      I'm surprised I haven't seen a single idiot try and say that thinking Rick Gomez did a much better job is just "nostalgia" You really can tell in just about every scene

  • @josephsantiago2862
    @josephsantiago2862 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey man I just discovered your channel and I feel so fortunate to have stumbled upon you. Your content is fantastic! Man you totally caught me off guard towards the end when you had a very delicate emotional moment there. I was in the kitchen indulging in snacks and I was not ready for it, but I absolutely loved it. It was so genuine and natural. And you're spot on, Rick Gomez's voice really is something special.

  • @Mistarpotato
    @Mistarpotato 2 роки тому +6

    Whether a game/story is good or bad one of the most memorable things will always be the voice acting, and if it's bad that can really take away from the experience of something no matter how well it's written.

  • @animverse30.6
    @animverse30.6 3 місяці тому +1

    Rick gomez put the real life in zack character

  • @CrushedSouls
    @CrushedSouls 2 роки тому +9

    This is absolutely spot on. Apparently, there's a mod for the PC version being worked on (it's out but buggy) that removes the voices from Reunion and replaces them where applicable with the PSP voiceover so I'm going to give that a look in the future. But yeah, you absolutely nailed it, great job.

  • @ahhhbeees
    @ahhhbeees 2 роки тому +2

    The new guy is horrendous what were they thinking 😭

  • @ThatRandomFastingGuy
    @ThatRandomFastingGuy Рік тому +4

    Zack's new VA is so terrible. As an actor myself, it irks me that there isn't a freaking a performance there at all. He's just saying words.

  • @ajaywill6487
    @ajaywill6487 2 роки тому +1

    We don’t have that problem with voices in french version, we did not change the voices actors

  • @RudeXII
    @RudeXII 2 роки тому +3

    sugar coat it all you want, I just think Caleb Pierce reads every line wrong. He just puts the emphasis in the wrong place, like he's READING the line, and not ACTING the line.

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 2 роки тому +31

    I keep going back and forth on the voice. I know it's not entirely his fault yet at times I feel like it can't be the voice directors fault either cause of all the other voices.
    My favorite part so far is how he handled the monologue between chapters 5 and 6, that's where he shines for me.
    He's not bad, but it feels like someone messed up along the way

    • @drekagaming
      @drekagaming Рік тому

      Imo it may be because he’s restricted to reciting the exact lines as the original (except for some scenes) therefore not giving him and other voice actors any freedom on how THEY would interpret it. I do hope it just improves in rebirth

  • @J-Hue
    @J-Hue 2 роки тому +3

    I'd say the VA's I'm the previous game captured the character's personal and set the tone for the story and the world better although the differences are mostly negligible overall. Except, surprisingly for the main character, Zack. So far, and not to he mean, he sounds mostly like a little brat instead of a cool, young; confident and at times hot-headed soldier on the rise.

  • @TheCoachTex
    @TheCoachTex 2 роки тому +67

    I honestly feel this also applies a bit to sephiroth as well

    • @alfredjones6130
      @alfredjones6130 2 роки тому +27

      I dunno. I think he did fine. But Zack's voice is just awful.

    • @Xehangetsu
      @Xehangetsu 2 роки тому +12

      Sephiroth’s voice is fine. It’s not the OG VA but he didn’t do a bad job at all

    • @REChronic54
      @REChronic54 2 роки тому +27

      Seph’s new VA has some line delivery issues too but he’s generally similar to George Newman. I don’t mind it but I can’t get through Zack’s voice _at_ _all_

    • @arac7690
      @arac7690 2 роки тому +16

      Don’t get me wrong, I MUCH preferred Sephiroth’s previous voice but I can live with the new one. I can not live with the new Zack voice. Call me petty, but it is the sole reason I didn’t purchase CCR, a remake of my favourite game.

    • @Misty25939
      @Misty25939 2 роки тому +2

      @@arac7690 Caleb got better as the game progresses.

  • @isaacclarkeish
    @isaacclarkeish 2 роки тому +75

    This is something that I’m glad more people are talking about. Pretty graphics and cool gameplay aside, the voice acting is just all wrong for me personally. An aspiring voice actor myself, I had a mini campaign to try and voice Wesker in Dead by Daylight. But since the odds were slim to none to begin with coupled with the hype for Wesker’s return in a playable sense no less, fans were able to overlook his less than stellar voice actor. That said, it’s refreshing to see people talking about the nonsensical practice of American VA’s constantly being shifted out of roles they are perfect in, Rick Gomez as Zack is like Peanut Butter and Jelly, a match made to be! Great video!

  • @RicardoCon94
    @RicardoCon94 2 роки тому +72

    While I did not enjoy Crisis Core's story when I played the original, what made it worthwhile was Rick Gomez as Zack. I thought it was completely unfair to judge the new voice actor with just 2 lines in VII Remake but it seemed like something went very wrong in the voice direction department on purpose. The new voice actor seemed to be the only one singled out because of this, everyone else sounded fine in my opinion. When Rick Gomez is angry or frustrated it's clear as day but with the new voice actor Zack sounds more annoyed like "oh what now??". Somebody did him dirty and it sucks. I remember some article in 2019 saying the new voices will be exclusive to the remake game and legacy actors will continue to voice their characters in future projects they so happen to be featured in. I guess that's a damn lie for damage control. Regular PR stuff.

    • @RicardoCon94
      @RicardoCon94 2 роки тому +2

      @@Killer_Kris7I thought he sounded fine but I guess you don't care about the opinions of others

    • @RicardoCon94
      @RicardoCon94 2 роки тому +2

      @@Killer_Kris7 I have. I grew up with the original cast

    • @logi267
      @logi267 Рік тому

      @@Killer_Kris7 Let's not trash on someone's opinion and make assumptions. I understand why you would prefer the old Sephiroth voice but someone having a different opinion than you doesn't mean you need to trash on theirs.

  • @X1erra
    @X1erra 2 роки тому +8

    I didn’t get why people are shaming on the voice acting so much at first. Thanks to you, I think I understand. The nuances behind the voice delivery is the reason why you felt so strongly about Zack. It’s why we felt it. It must have been tough for Caleb to replicate, he did his best still. This game is special to many of you.

  • @petermanalac3696
    @petermanalac3696 2 роки тому +4

    For me, Rick Gomez as Zack sounded like the real hero we loved.

  • @brandondcruz9778
    @brandondcruz9778 2 роки тому +7

    Zack is my favorite video game character of all time, and the new remake of crisis core ruins all of his magic. A crisis core remake was my wet dream since forever, but now that it's here ahhhhhhhh man it makes me cry 😭

  • @felipeflach5739
    @felipeflach5739 9 місяців тому +1

    Is it possible, with all the AI that we have today, to copy the old Zack's voice and build a mod to replace the new voice? If that's possible, i'd DEFINETLY pay for this. What do you guys think about this?

  • @KAIsibs
    @KAIsibs Рік тому +4

    4:45 These are probably the only voice line change i’m okay with. Plus, the way caleb delivers it makes me laugh a little

  • @stephanspring5181
    @stephanspring5181 2 роки тому +2

    So George newborn will always be the perfect voice for sephiroth, but even Genesis voice in crisis core was a remake because originally he sounded like Antonio Banderas if you collect all the g files in dirge of cerebrus

  • @thisisobviously
    @thisisobviously 2 роки тому +4

    Glad people are having conversation about this. I love the OG cast and I love most of the new cast except Zack. He just sounds like a guy doing a Ryan Reynolds impression and it takes me out of it everytime he talks

  • @Pinklimo
    @Pinklimo Рік тому +1

    Thing is, Caleb Pierce sounds like the Japanese VA so, technically they casted him well. Sadly, Rick Gomez voice just sounds more likeable when he voices Zack in comparison.

  • @MiguelRPD
    @MiguelRPD 2 роки тому +12

    Lol the "awesome. We're gonna fail" was wholesome and glad they did it.

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 2 роки тому +8

      Honestly to me, some of those moments are just Zack energy.

  • @rookiec198
    @rookiec198 2 роки тому +1

    The way your voice cracked when you remembered what Zack aproach on life was abling you to push even on toughest of situation hit home really hard. Zack is my favorite character too, i've been playing games since I can remember and never I could came up with nothing even close to him. People always talk about that movie than inspired them or make them re-think important aspects of their life, but that rarely happens with games. I just can't stress enough how the DMW mechanics resonated with me 'cose, whenever you're facing something you think will tear you, your thoughts about your loved ones will definely be your strongest weapon, I LOVE how it is "random" since sometimes, the things that would go to your head that pushes you through are sometimes "random". Remembering that joke with a friend, that kiss with a loved or that advice from a family figure which is like a "kick/push" in your butt that gives you the strenght to keep going, to keep fighting.
    Zack will always be that eternal reference about how, even if things look as dark as they can be, you need to keep your DMW spinning and just give It another try.
    Embrace your dreams everyone.

  • @MsFated
    @MsFated Рік тому +5

    Zack’s new voice is the only reason I’m not playing the remaster version. I’ve seen enough examples and I don’t like the new English VA for Zack. He sounds way too odd and line delivery is pretty bad at times but like you said it’s probably to do with the direction given.
    Zack is my favourite FF character so I’m trying to keep my memories of Zack as I remember 😂

    • @TheShockVox
      @TheShockVox Рік тому

      Same.

    • @douglasiturburu5748
      @douglasiturburu5748 10 місяців тому

      yeah... but the problem is the remake and now rebirth... where he is alive now in another timeline :v

  • @faristhewanderer6571
    @faristhewanderer6571 Рік тому +2

    Man, you really made me tear up at the end!! 😢❤ excellence video

  • @EverythingEverr
    @EverythingEverr 2 роки тому +13

    Towards he end, when you got choked up.. I FELT that.. I *REALLY* felt that. Same with the wanting-to-be-a-voice-actor thing! The thought of your performance one day being able to inspire someone, in the same way that you were inspired by characters like zack.. it just.. HNN 😤👌Also, a lot of the points you make, are the same reasons I love him as a character, and why his voice is so important. Thanks for putting it into words for us ☺

  • @KuraudoSutoraifu7
    @KuraudoSutoraifu7 5 місяців тому +1

    How I feel about tifa and sephiroth. Tifa sounds like she’s in her late 40’s. Even clouds mom sounds younger and you can hear her trying too hard to sound old. Sephiroth sound edgy and hella forced. 😭 😂

  • @aura6958
    @aura6958 2 роки тому +3

    Zack old voice actors play Zack the best I just love how he can make Zack sound very mature when time calls for it.

  • @mooganify
    @mooganify 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh Zack sounds even younger in that scene with Cloud

  • @TheOfficialArthurMorgan
    @TheOfficialArthurMorgan 2 роки тому +3

    Zack Fair is my favorite Final Fantasy character (and now that I think of it he's also my fave video game character) of all time as well. My name is also Zack in real life and I always felt like he portrayed the version of myself that I couldn't express at my adolescent stage of life.
    Now I'm 30 and married and I do feel like I have become more like my true self (and more like Zack Fair) in terms of being an upbeat, optimistic, and sometimes goofy/confident (and over confident at times) person.

  • @creativebodyflying
    @creativebodyflying 2 роки тому +7

    In scene with Cloud in hotel Zack is still 18. Which is only 2 years older, than Cloud. He turns 23, when they run towards Midgar. So, youthful voice here is still ok. Even though Rick and Caleb are obviously different people, Caleb learned his mistake in the end of Remake and now tried to deliver his lines more or less the same way as in original CC. But because he IS different person, we will hear difference anyway. I think the only character, who doesn't really sound much different, is Cloud. Steve and Cody are very similar, but Cody gives more depth with his voice.

    • @joseph8546
      @joseph8546 2 роки тому

      It's not just his voice, but also his delivery, in that scene in particular Zack should have sounded more charismatic and confident because obviously Cloud needed some guidance in that moment. Zack is also hardened soldier, even if he's only 18, so he's had to mature a lot over those 2 years. Despite their different personalities and experience, there just isn't enough contrast in that scene anymore which makes the scene less impactful.

    • @creativebodyflying
      @creativebodyflying 2 роки тому +1

      @@joseph8546 I mean, yes, Rick Gomez was perfect, but we'll have to get used to Caleb now. He's not bad. But different, yes.

    • @HayatoPato
      @HayatoPato 2 роки тому +1

      @@creativebodyflying no offense he certainly is bad. It is as if he's reading over the script other than putting actual emotions through the character. Rick Gomez actually acted out his lines and it is why it sounds more human and more emotional in comparison to Caleb.
      I apologize, while you do have your own opinion I feel that no one is going to get used to it. At least most of the community has changed the voice option to Japanese when buying reunion. Caleb has to do better in his deliveries. Rick Gomez had shown his love and compassion for this character.
      Caleb did not. And square enix had been greedy, as a multimillion dollar company to even hire back the old VA for Zack. It's all SE's fault in general.

    • @creativebodyflying
      @creativebodyflying 2 роки тому

      @@HayatoPato I’ve seen different opinions. I’ll stick to mine. 😉 I prefer Rick, but I don’t feel Caleb did bad. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @minynnel
    @minynnel 2 роки тому +7

    Rick Gomez immensely captured the growth Zack goes through. Inflections and Delivery matters. I didn't feel that with reunion and I'll still support the old cast.

  • @TheOtherSideBooks
    @TheOtherSideBooks 2 роки тому +65

    I didn’t have any friends in 8th grade. So that summer (after playing Crisis Core) I practiced my voice all because of Rick Gomez. I started emulating his and it helped me find myself over the years. Never realized how iconic a voice could be until he was gone 😢
    (Edit)
    I made lots of friends that year, many I still know even after college. #thanksrickgomez

  • @suenzhong7891
    @suenzhong7891 2 роки тому +34

    I get recasting VAs if the original VA is not available or if fans reacted badly to the original voice (eg: Aerith's) but Rick Gomez, George Newbern and Steve Blum had voices which suit their characters to a T. A cynical part of me wonders if the recasting was done because localization team did not want to hire veteran VAs because they would cost more.

    • @azumigaiden
      @azumigaiden 2 роки тому +3

      With all the money they probably is receiving from the game since 2020, I doubt that costing more should be a problem. It's marketing strategy all the way to go. All of the new english VAs are connected with actors from HBO/CW/Warner.

    • @sunnecas
      @sunnecas Рік тому +1

      Idk about Steve Blum, his voice is too deep for Vincent imo

  • @biggrayalien4791
    @biggrayalien4791 Рік тому +1

    "Awesome! We're gonna fail!" made me chuckle bahaha

  • @GOJOISALIVETRUST
    @GOJOISALIVETRUST 2 роки тому +3

    No please you can still chase your dreams!! This is the first time I’ve ever watched your content, and I really resonate with Zack too for similar reasons. I definitely think you can be a voice actor!! It’s never too late. I really liked your video and message, thanks for sharing, and I hope you chase your dreams too💛

  • @BeeWiseman
    @BeeWiseman 2 роки тому +1

    Zack's voice was one of the things in that game that I felt was actually perfect. I can at least say, that in all of the FF series, Zack is my favorite character, with no competition. When I first heard his voice in Remake, then the Reunion trailer, I winced, because it wasn't Rick Gomez. Even before having any one to compare it to, I was praising Rick Gomez's performance as Zack.
    I am happy to say though, that some modders are working to restore out boy's voice to its former glory (as well as the others). It's still got some kinks, but I'm excited to see it being worked on.

  • @TheCoachTex
    @TheCoachTex 2 роки тому +28

    I feel the new voices were hired without thought about whether the new voices could act and more whether they were hip cool and most likely cheaper than the og. While some worked out, other like Zack are just disappointing.

    • @rootedpen2
      @rootedpen2 2 роки тому +6

      @@Dangangela6565 directing is not responsible if Caleb has a naturally annoying voice and 0 talent. wakey wakey

    • @TheCoachTex
      @TheCoachTex 2 роки тому +2

      @@Dangangela6565 Hoechlin and Pierce do not do suit the characters they are voicing .

    • @holographicwing
      @holographicwing 5 місяців тому

      I think the new voices are way more expensive considering they went from active tv/film careers to this. Like Steve Burton was on General Hospital back in the day but Tyler Hoechlin is Superman.

  • @ElFelocitaptor
    @ElFelocitaptor 2 роки тому +5

    Zack’s new voice robs him of his bombastic presence it’s almost scary we need his old voice track and for Rick to come back because they no longer feel similar in the slightest.