The Kit Fox is the best bang for your money. I think the 7 series STI would be perfect for you Ryan. Thanks Brandon for all the information about the new Kit Fox. Great Video, thanks Ryan.
Thank you Ryan for posting. Brandon is a "boss" when it comes to everything Kit Fox. Excellent description of the systems and capabilities. I'm in the market for a personal plane after 41 years of flying everything from Russian Mi-8 helicopters to DeHavilland Dash-7s and 8s and the Kit Fox is now squarely centered in my radar scope!
Thanks Ryan for showing and telling about those bush planes. Sure be nice to have one of them, did he say around 100.000 for a bush plane. Well nice to know , thanks Ryan again for showing and telling you have a good one and will see you next time see ya bye.
Ryan Great video thank you for all the questions you asked I had no idea one could tailor these airplanes to be so personalized and set up for different uses I can see now how difficult it will be to decide what’s best for each pilot. Very exciting video You know I’m sharing it with family and friends and they will too. My best wishes always from Las Vegas Craig This video is 10 stars for sure ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️ Bravo 👏🏻
Hi Ryan, if you are interested in reviewing another bushplane option in the sub $100 000 range , consider checking out the KFA Safari. Probably the best price vs performance plane in the market today. Its also probably the plane with the most usefull load and biggest cabin in its class.
Ryan, Very informative & great presentation. The Kit Fox sounds like it would be a nice aircraft to fly. Best wishes to you & your family, hope you are enjoying your break. Thanks Ryan & Brandon.
Great report and look at the Kitfox family of experimental planes. Around 100K in the U.S I was thinking about purchasing 4130 chromolly steel tube, some Dacron fabric, avionics and get to building. That will be some years away: sad to say. Thanks Captain Ryan "just what the doctor ordered." 🛩️🌏
Hey Ryan, I want you to build me a plane and I want to invest in your company. Tell me what ad investment you think you might need. I hope you got my number get in touch with me.
Hey Ryan, Kitfox is a great, proven, kit manufacturer. I you have not yet checked out Zenith aircraft I would recommend that you do. They have several STOL and non STOL models to choose from. Good luck in your search, there are a lot to choose from.
While I have flown ass-draggers, I still prefer to have my steerable wheel where nature intended, so that even with an unexpected gust, bounced landings are almost impossible. As you've amply demonstrated, Ryan, that is not a problem even in some pretty extreme landing strip conditions if flown properly.
@@Chris_at_Home Not busted anything yet, even in pretty soft mud, (too soft to walk on easily) although I've not tried on gravel bars (which rarely seem to have that problem), it seems that anything but the loosest of shingle (which would not support the weight of the aircraft anyway unless you have multi-wheeled gear like some military transports) would be fine. I'm sure there are many tricycle gear aircraft with flimsy gear that can't land in places like that, but the same is true of many tail-draggers.
@@Chris_at_Home Yeah that would help, just as the balloon tyres on large wheels help on the main gear. But you can get the nose gear to float very well on most smaller aircraft with back pressure on the controls. Heck, I've flown in and out of licensed airfields where the notes say that for one of the runways it is important to take speed through the turn onto the runway and not stop, as if you do, you'll be up to the axles and the tractor makes a real mess of the touchdown zone getting you out, so please don't do that! There was a guy who I can't decide if he was very brave, very skilled or very stupid who kept his Mooney there, due to the low tie-down fees. I think he flew out light and fueled properly and picked up or dropped off passengers at the nearest paved strip. But I wouldn't fancy a retractable on a field like that.
ok..Im listening! I think your experience in New Guinea well qualifies you for an opinion. Please tell your viewers (me) what your final choice would be for a back country plane and perhaps an explanation. I am sure many people are eager to hear your opinion. Thanks you.
I have a question, perhaps people here can answer. Why do all, of not most STOL aircraft have high wings instead of a low wing? Is it ground clearance?
Very nice presentation indeed. I hope you can make this change happen in your life Ryan for yourself and family for sure. This coming from an older guy myself who shares in the same attraction to airplanes and aviation as you do. C-152 was my level of training/experience back in the mid 1970ish area. I am glad to see the things you have made happen plus the training videos and all. It makes me feel happy for you. I enjoy your videos very much thank you. Take care brother way cool. :)
What’s the waiting time for a kit now… 2years? I ordered a Highlander and was told 15 months and I’m on month 20 and still no kit. I can imagine that with KF being more popular that the wait time is considerably longer.
Question: Have any of these models been spun? If so, what is the recovery technique? What are the spin characteristics? I suppose my old school mindset....a wing can be stalled at any attitude and airspeed. So, is spin entry and recovery part of the package in the checkout? Maybe questions you should ask before you buy. Experimental aircraft do indeed undergo very intensive flight and engine tests......But, still, the questions. I have quite a few more points, but you seem to be eager in purchasing soon. Well, anyway. If I can help, let me know. I do have limited knowledge of the newer, most recent experimental planes on the market. But, an airplane is still an airplane. None of the experimentals have been spun, to my knowledge, in the flight tests required for Experimental Certification. If that's the case, you will be a test pilot. I do have about 25,000 hours in aircraft of several kinds. So, I've taught aerobatics for safety, competition, and advanced spin training, including the inverted flat spin, the accelerated upright and inverted spins, power on and off. I'm not bragging, but have lived in spite of it. You're young.....I'm guessing about 3-4K hours? With a family. I just care and hope you don't mess up.
@@egreens8512 Well, I presented, IMHO, the very important issues or questions. I don't know about some specific aircraft. Being safety focused, I had to present these ideas. I'd recommend at least, considering before buying. The economy is going downhill. So, fuel, maintenance, storage, and proficiency may make a difference. The Rotax engines have been around for decades....probably a fair option. Also since "fossil fuel" prices are increasing for lack thereof. Perhaps renting an aircraft, rather than owning...Mojo Grip has some great info for just that. Or a partnership. Renting......involves a perhaps more thorough approach to prefight regarding the aircraft. Papers, maintenance logs, I suppose sharing an aircraft with a few unknown pilots.....is another part of the puzzle. "Experimental class" may require more cost in insurance......just some thoughts. Also, depends on how often it will be flown. More fly, more cost. More maintenance, again, storage. Etc. I've owned a few airplanes in partnership......worked out OK. Pitts, Cessna 182, and Citabria GCAA. I've spun all of them, and even a 737-300 sim (rather mushy, but let 'er wrap up enough to cause concern for my instructor). He knew my background in aerobatics. Remains a great bud to this day. We didn't wish to "break" the sim.....certain parameters, but got across the point. A gentle stall entry in a DC3 will CERTAINLY get your attention.
OH, a lease back option may be available.....buy an aircraft for hire....I had a a few aircraft in my school on lease back. With that, almost everyone wins....but your personal access to the aircraft will probably be limited by scheduling. Tax advantages, maybe. Ryan could even provide the checkout requirements, with a valid CFI certificate.....or have authority over the instructors' qualifications. But, if a tailwheel plane is purchased, well, at least 10 hours with a qualified CFI is required by most insurance for the FAA requirement for sign-off. AS was previously mentioned, 20 hours? And then to feel qualified to fix checkout students' messes.....how far do you let them take it??????? For me, outside my comfort zone. Which was quite frequent! Especially when new Pitts of other high performance machines owners were checked out. I was a certified Pitts designee for requirements involving insurance with a company. The ones with the egos....I warned them.....they didn't listen. They're dead.
@@sandybanjo excellent considerations, similar to my cousin that flies freighters to China for UPS 767, her husband flight instructor... but i hear 100% , i have need for GA no more commercial, for biz did in 2000"s for business in Cal $65/wet for moonie and pilot outta Bermuda Dunes, great stuff. Thanks for information.
Im curious did you decide flying as a missionary is no longer in your wheelhut? Or are you simply having a midlife crises? Either way interesting to watch you putter about.
Get real. There are no cheap airplanes. There are just airplanes that cost more than others or less. Airplanes are expensive in all ways. Purchase, hourly flight time, yearly annuals and associated costs, hangar or parking fees and last but not least is fuel costs and an engine fund. That being said airplanes are really great if a person can afford one.
@@MissionaryBushPilot No not really - Aerotrek have a US dealer - think they have sold quite a few in both USA and Canada......you can buy a factory built Eurofox/Aerotrek - brand new directly from them starting at $k115 - no need for used worn out parts.......... there is a waiting list though - which tells you something..........
@@doglipdoug I’m just being contrary. I am building a Zenith 750 SD right now. So I have to stand up for my side. Seriously, I believe that the 750SD is a much better bush plane. Especially up here in Alaska. Most people seem to have some version of a Super Cub up here. There is a kit fox or two. But, I think it’s biggest problem as a bush plane is it’s lack of horse power. The Zenith 750SD can take a 200HP engine. I have a lycoming 0-360 180 hp engine. I think with a kit fox you are limited to maybe 120hp.
The Kit Fox is the best bang for your money. I think the 7 series STI would be perfect for you Ryan. Thanks Brandon for all the information about the new Kit Fox. Great Video, thanks Ryan.
I love my Kitfox super sport! Handles great!
Thank you Ryan for posting. Brandon is a "boss" when it comes to everything Kit Fox. Excellent description of the systems and capabilities. I'm in the market for a personal plane after 41 years of flying everything from Russian Mi-8 helicopters to DeHavilland Dash-7s and 8s and the Kit Fox is now squarely centered in my radar scope!
Very articulate and insightful! Thanks Brandon!
Thanks Ryan for showing and telling about those bush planes. Sure be nice to have one of them, did he say around 100.000 for a bush plane. Well nice to know , thanks Ryan again for showing and telling you have a good one and will see you next time see ya bye.
Come to Idaho to the factory if you do I might be able to meet you. I hope you get a chance to meet Trent Palmer.
I am not a pilot but this kit fox looks like a winner
Until someone pulls up in a certified twin turbo Cessna, lol
Ryan
Great video thank you for all the questions you asked I had no idea one could tailor these airplanes to be so personalized and set up for different uses
I can see now how difficult it will be to decide what’s best for each pilot.
Very exciting video
You know I’m sharing it with family and friends and they will too.
My best wishes always from Las Vegas Craig
This video is 10 stars for sure ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
⭐️
Bravo 👏🏻
An excellent informative video. Kit Fox really does make a beautiful aircraft.
Hi Ryan, if you are interested in reviewing another bushplane option in the sub $100 000 range , consider checking out the KFA Safari. Probably the best price vs performance plane in the market today. Its also probably the plane with the most usefull load and biggest cabin in its class.
Those are hard to find.
I think the Bearhawk Companion or 4 place are pretty robust too. Great envelope between slow flight, high cruise, STOL, and unbeatable useful load.
Ryan,
Very informative & great presentation. The Kit Fox sounds like it would be a nice aircraft to fly. Best wishes to you & your family, hope you are enjoying your break. Thanks Ryan & Brandon.
Brandon certainly knew his subject 100%! 😀
My son and I were at the show and captured in the video. Great plane.
Hey Ryan, good interview, you asked all the questions ! 😎
I love that silver STI shown in this video. How much would that one cost NEW, if Kitfox was to build to completion?
Great report and look at the Kitfox family of experimental planes.
Around 100K in the U.S
I was thinking about purchasing 4130 chromolly steel tube, some Dacron fabric, avionics and get to building. That will be some years away: sad to say.
Thanks Captain Ryan "just what the doctor ordered."
🛩️🌏
Hey Ryan, I want you to build me a plane and I want to invest in your company. Tell me what ad investment you think you might need. I hope you got my number get in touch with me.
Hey Ryan, Kitfox is a great, proven, kit manufacturer. I you have not yet checked out Zenith aircraft I would recommend that you do. They have several STOL and non STOL models to choose from. Good luck in your search, there are a lot to choose from.
I will check it out
That peddle adjustment is nice! I just might be able to get in that.
While I have flown ass-draggers, I still prefer to have my steerable wheel where nature intended, so that even with an unexpected gust, bounced landings are almost impossible.
As you've amply demonstrated, Ryan, that is not a problem even in some pretty extreme landing strip conditions if flown properly.
How does that tricycle gear work for you on off airport landings on places like gravel bars?
@@Chris_at_Home Not busted anything yet, even in pretty soft mud, (too soft to walk on easily) although I've not tried on gravel bars (which rarely seem to have that problem), it seems that anything but the loosest of shingle (which would not support the weight of the aircraft anyway unless you have multi-wheeled gear like some military transports) would be fine.
I'm sure there are many tricycle gear aircraft with flimsy gear that can't land in places like that, but the same is true of many tail-draggers.
@@phillee2814 I had a friend years ago that put a 206 nose gear on a 182 and it did pretty good off runways with the larger tire..
@@Chris_at_Home Yeah that would help, just as the balloon tyres on large wheels help on the main gear. But you can get the nose gear to float very well on most smaller aircraft with back pressure on the controls. Heck, I've flown in and out of licensed airfields where the notes say that for one of the runways it is important to take speed through the turn onto the runway and not stop, as if you do, you'll be up to the axles and the tractor makes a real mess of the touchdown zone getting you out, so please don't do that!
There was a guy who I can't decide if he was very brave, very skilled or very stupid who kept his Mooney there, due to the low tie-down fees. I think he flew out light and fueled properly and picked up or dropped off passengers at the nearest paved strip. But I wouldn't fancy a retractable on a field like that.
ok..Im listening! I think your experience in New Guinea well qualifies you for an opinion. Please tell your viewers (me) what your final choice would be for a back country plane and perhaps an explanation. I am sure many people are eager to hear your opinion. Thanks you.
I have a question, perhaps people here can answer.
Why do all, of not most STOL aircraft have high wings instead of a low wing? Is it ground clearance?
Cool to see. Rans s21 is another good option.
Sweet looking plane
Hope you took a look at the bearhawks while you were at OSH, IMO they are the sweet spot for performance vs utility.
I agree... check them out if you get the chance!
Hello from Minnesota! Great episode!
Maybe also check out Rans, they make great planes and kits!
I don't believe any of these sales guys until Ryan actually tests fly the aircraft !!
Great interview
Very nice presentation indeed. I hope you can make this change happen in your life Ryan for yourself and family for sure. This coming from an older guy myself who shares in the same attraction to airplanes and aviation as you do. C-152 was my level of training/experience back in the mid 1970ish area. I am glad to see the things you have made happen plus the training videos and all. It makes me feel happy for you. I enjoy your videos very much thank you. Take care brother way cool. :)
Curious on auto conversion engine on one of these STI units - like an engine from Viking....
Great job! Very useful information, thanks a lot!
What’s the waiting time for a kit now… 2years? I ordered a Highlander and was told 15 months and I’m on month 20 and still no kit. I can imagine that with KF being more popular that the wait time is considerably longer.
Question: Have any of these models been spun? If so, what is the recovery technique? What are the spin characteristics? I suppose my old school mindset....a wing can be stalled at any attitude and airspeed. So, is spin entry and recovery part of the package in the checkout? Maybe questions you should ask before you buy. Experimental aircraft do indeed undergo very intensive flight and engine tests......But, still, the questions. I have quite a few more points, but you seem to be eager in purchasing soon. Well, anyway. If I can help, let me know. I do have limited knowledge of the newer, most recent experimental planes on the market. But, an airplane is still an airplane. None of the experimentals have been spun, to my knowledge, in the flight tests required for Experimental Certification. If that's the case, you will be a test pilot. I do have about 25,000 hours in aircraft of several kinds. So, I've taught aerobatics for safety, competition, and advanced spin training, including the inverted flat spin, the accelerated upright and inverted spins, power on and off. I'm not bragging, but have lived in spite of it. You're young.....I'm guessing about 3-4K hours? With a family. I just care and hope you don't mess up.
Sandy any thoughts on DA62 , mission cap, safety, the economy ... thanks . Good review Ryan.
Sandy, check out Kyle Franklin's routine a few years back in a Kitfox. ua-cam.com/video/mFwPlP4CZ6o/v-deo.html
@@egreens8512 Well, I presented, IMHO, the very important issues or questions. I don't know about some specific aircraft. Being safety focused, I had to present these ideas. I'd recommend at least, considering before buying. The economy is going downhill. So, fuel, maintenance, storage, and proficiency may make a difference. The Rotax engines have been around for decades....probably a fair option. Also since "fossil fuel" prices are increasing for lack thereof. Perhaps renting an aircraft, rather than owning...Mojo Grip has some great info for just that. Or a partnership. Renting......involves a perhaps more thorough approach to prefight regarding the aircraft. Papers, maintenance logs, I suppose sharing an aircraft with a few unknown pilots.....is another part of the puzzle. "Experimental class" may require more cost in insurance......just some thoughts. Also, depends on how often it will be flown. More fly, more cost. More maintenance, again, storage. Etc. I've owned a few airplanes in partnership......worked out OK. Pitts, Cessna 182, and Citabria GCAA. I've spun all of them, and even a 737-300 sim (rather mushy, but let 'er wrap up enough to cause concern for my instructor). He knew my background in aerobatics. Remains a great bud to this day. We didn't wish to "break" the sim.....certain parameters, but got across the point. A gentle stall entry in a DC3 will CERTAINLY get your attention.
OH, a lease back option may be available.....buy an aircraft for hire....I had a a few aircraft in my school on lease back. With that, almost everyone wins....but your personal access to the aircraft will probably be limited by scheduling. Tax advantages, maybe. Ryan could even provide the checkout requirements, with a valid CFI certificate.....or have authority over the instructors' qualifications. But, if a tailwheel plane is purchased, well, at least 10 hours with a qualified CFI is required by most insurance for the FAA requirement for sign-off. AS was previously mentioned, 20 hours? And then to feel qualified to fix checkout students' messes.....how far do you let them take it??????? For me, outside my comfort zone. Which was quite frequent! Especially when new Pitts of other high performance machines owners were checked out. I was a certified Pitts designee for requirements involving insurance with a company. The ones with the egos....I warned them.....they didn't listen. They're dead.
@@sandybanjo excellent considerations, similar to my cousin that flies freighters to China for UPS 767, her husband flight instructor... but i hear 100% , i have need for GA no more commercial, for biz did in 2000"s for business in Cal $65/wet for moonie and pilot outta Bermuda Dunes, great stuff. Thanks for information.
If you buy, would you still return to PNG after your year or fly your own in US?
Ryan maybe also watch into the "Flightchops" channel and talk to him. Maybe a RV-14 or so is an option for you.
What is the highest altitude a kit fox has done a "bush" landing and take off ?
I know Trent Palmer did just over 1100 ft.
Nice little plane 👍🏴
cleared direct is building a rans. he is very informative. there are so many choices. cant wait to hear your final opinion
STI, is that the best name they could come up with!
Hey Brandon, you're the man. Great presentation and information.
Love ya buddy..!
Uncle Doug...
Great interview!
Have you looked into the Rans S-21?
that MT prop is something like 24,000 dollars
Looking as great as ever. Are you currently unemployed?
thank you
What about nose wheel aircraft? I don't have anywhere near me to get a tail-wheel endorsement
Can't even get to the show for all the damn commercials...
This plane has Alaska written all over it.
" You don't need slats" HAHAHAHA okay bub .
Mike Patey: 😂🤣
@Ailerons Into wind :: That was the first thing I thought of! Slats on the slats! 🤣
Love the kit fox but not being rich I've been priced out of the market.
Brandon is thinking “330k subscribers …. Let me help you!”
New sub ! Liked 🙏🙌🐸🌻✌️
The Gaircraft Mule is laughing at your price and performance.
If you can find one for sale
@@MissionaryBushPilotcall Gary and get a kit.
Im curious did you decide flying as a missionary is no longer in your wheelhut? Or are you simply having a midlife crises? Either way interesting to watch you putter about.
Consider a Rans-S21
Which affordable Bush planes have high carrying capacity? Let's say someone wants to volunteer as a firefighter
Check out the Legend MOAC. (Mother of All Cubs)
100k ain’t cheap.
One word Flaperons....
I think you need to reevaluate the meaning of Cheap! This word has zero applicability in aviation!
Can't even haul a dog with it!!!
Anything about the warranty? (Apologies if I missed it.)
no warranty
Ryan, that looks like a toy.
Get real. There are no cheap airplanes. There are just airplanes that cost more than others or less. Airplanes are expensive in all ways. Purchase, hourly flight time, yearly annuals and associated costs, hangar or parking fees and last but not least is fuel costs and an engine fund. That being said airplanes are really great if a person can afford one.
SuperSTOL!
100,000 K 🙄
2:53……..and…..I’m out…..
Well, life has been good to you. Gained a little weight. God bless
That's no bush plane that's a toy, it can't haul anything
Eurofox/Aerotrek is better value...............
harder to find
@@MissionaryBushPilot No not really - Aerotrek have a US dealer - think they have sold quite a few in both USA and Canada......you can buy a factory built Eurofox/Aerotrek - brand new directly from them starting at $k115 - no need for used worn out parts.......... there is a waiting list though - which tells you something..........
Kitfox is CRAP! Get a Zenith!!!!!!
Do you wish to elaborate Sam, I take it you are speaking from experience having owned one????
@@doglipdoug I’m just being contrary. I am building a Zenith 750 SD right now. So I have to stand up for my side.
Seriously, I believe that the 750SD is a much better bush plane. Especially up here in Alaska.
Most people seem to have some version of a Super Cub up here. There is a kit fox or two. But, I think it’s biggest problem as a bush plane is it’s lack of horse power. The Zenith 750SD can take a 200HP engine. I have a lycoming 0-360 180 hp engine. I think with a kit fox you are limited to maybe 120hp.
nope a cheap super cub is the best bush plane
But they cost about $125k these days
"under 100k" yeah you're part of the problem why they are 100k