@@raippakeisari2342 Italy and the soviets. Mexico Spain turkey and Portugal all have better one than two of the main participants in the Second World War
Even though bittersteel doesn't have the largest subscriber count, we are super committed. There are channels that have 5 times the people that don't have as many views per video.
Nice run! I actually bagged this achievement yesterday and looked for videos today… In my run (with NSB, Veteran difficulty), I created a circle of level 10 forts on all the Belgium VP’s and using the rivers where possible, and I didn’t use tank destroyers at all. I had 30 infantry divisions defending. France fell to Italy, so I was truly surrounded by Germans on all sides. Congo fell to Vichy France, but fortunately for me not before I had hit the 50 factory count (the two states in Europe only support 47 building slots…)! This happened in the fall of 1943, and by that time the casualty ratio between Belgium and Germany was 1:83 - meaning 70K casualties for me, 5.3 mio casualties for the Germans! I made sure to keep an intel advantage against the Germans for that extra defensive bonus, and in the end my divisions had a defense of more than 2,000 incl all bonuses. Almost all my divisions were Veterans!
29:16 If there is one thing I hate about war score contribution is that you may contribute greatly to the war effort but the game still treats you as if you did nothing. In a Greater Greece playthrough I ended up bleeding around 3 million Germans on defense alone (In the end I even beat the soviets and Americans in inflicting casualties on the Axis). I ended up with 2% war score contribution regardless.
issue with Ireland is that, in this gane there isnt much to do no cool formable, no flavor its either go fascist and kill Britain for NI. Brittany and Navarra are optional but wont give you much. or stay democratic and wait more than the US before seeing any action in dday while you're a lot weaker than them
Never heard of Léon Degrelle before but after a quick search in wikipedia, I can definitely see why the people of Belgium don't like him all that much :D Also nice work with the campaign. I've never done a democratic Belgium run myself so it was interesting to see how that could work out. :) If you're planning on more formable nations, one suggestion is to create Persia as Iran or Afghanistan.
Bitt3rsteel: Tries to make video on Belgium Paradox weather gods: Hail shall rain upon you!! Love your videos! Always a great accompaniment to lunch/dinnertime :)
Here’s another twist you can do: the achievement requires you to START as Belgium but after that you only need to get the factories. You could release and play as your African colony (not as puppet) and join the Axis/commiterm and yoink allied/Portuguese colonial land.
Mighty fine looking Belgium. Almost the best war participation, I didn't expect you'd be able to manage that, so great job! Also, did you say you want Belgium to be more like the Netherlands? ;-) (you want them to have a cool focus tree like us, it's not the same of course, but still...)
Sometimes I wonder the way paradox makes those focus trees... Just like Belgium, Finland doesn't have special focus tree in vanilla and I bet there's lot of more countries that did something during ww2 but doesn't have their own focus tree.
The virgin netherlands: -Needs one of the best focus trees to be interesting; -Normally boring if you're not a brown shirt or a red guard -Lame shoes -Bad chocolate -Doesnt have congo Versus the chad Belgium: -So strong that it doesnt need a big focus tree; -so based you can still be democratic and have fun; -Based culture; -epic chocolate; -Has congo, but also Rwanda and Burundi because they're epic
Very impressive that you manage this with little preparation for this challenge specifically. Personally I get rolled over by german AI even as France, let alone winging it with Belgium :D
25:22 You very likely would have been better off picking infantry expert, 5 entrenchment will only every add 10% soft attack and 10% defense to your fully entrenched divisions. Furthermore entrenchment only stacks additively with itself (and then multiplicatively with other modifiers). This means that not only does it taker longer to build up your soft attack with ambusher, but you will end up with less total soft attack than infantry expert would have provided and it won't work offensively... For example a 5 base + 7 (1939) engineer company entrenchment division stands to gain (2*(5+7)%)=24% soft attack and defense by fully entrenching. Adding ambusher to this mix yields (2*(5+5+7)%)=34% soft attack and defense once fully entrenched. Adding infantry expert instead yields a 1.24*1.1=1.364 (36,4% extra) soft attack modifier. and this modifier will still be 1.1 on the offensive, whereas an ambusher division gains no offensive benefit. Ambusher is only ever worth it if the extra recon and defense from entrenchment is worth it, which it almost never is. Infantry divisions almost always have more defense than the enemy can throw soft attack at them.
Rearguard action by the Chasseurs Ardennais. Ordered to hold the border and resist at all costs untill relieved, but the order to withdraw to the fort lines never reached them. Resulting in a heroic stand against the Wehrmacht
"Fun fact, it is forbidden by law to return the mortal remains of Leon Degrelle to the country of Belgium for burial. That's how little we like him." Oh? Wonder why? *Google Leon Degrelle* Oh... fair enough
Fantastic challenge. Though I'm probably just gonna go with the Browshirts myself. Any updates on Die Perfidious Albion as Vichy France? I'm intending to start taking shots at it this weekend, because if I could get Go Ahead, Macau My Day without a guide, this should be significantly easier.
At 10:20 you mention building heavy tank destroyers as they're cheaper, but they cost the same to make as normal heavy tanks. Would it not be better to build heavy tanks as the AI doesn't feel many tanks? Not trying to nitpick, just wondered what the thinking is.
I did not know who Degrelle was at first when you said about him so I googled him and what did I expect? Of course he was a Nazi collaborator what could've he been but to not allow him being buried in Belgium actually seems silly to leave him in Spain where he is in pain because as we all know: Spain is Pain.
I felt your frustration when it came to the ai. I was playing as Communist Bulgaria and after fighting Germany I was able to puppet them and give them the majority of their land. But West Germany got the half of their land back. What makes it worst I was gonna take over Germany so that I can get their factories to become faction leader on the Comintern so I can get land that they took from Romania. But no the ai has to do their BS
nah, it's even easier than what you said at the start. flip fascist, justify on dutch east indies and luxembourg at the same time (synchronize justifications), win. all the while building factories. boom, done. even a moron like me did it fast and easy
Jaja het zuiderlijk reservaat krijgt wat aandacht, and for A challenge: as the Netherlands repudiate the treaty of London while not joining the facists/communist factions and surviving and defeating germany, italy and japan. Bonus points for not being facist or communist when Germany attacks you. (no benelux or eu )
It's realy painfull that HoI4 doesn't have the province borders and Vlaanderen and Waloon regions good. Oost-Vlaanderen does not have any coast at all and Limburg where I live is too small.
Challenge: In KR, restore Independent Belgium and align with Entente, and bring Europe under Entente control. Just did this in my play, it was hard but very fun.
i managed to resist as belgium against the germans and caused them half a milion casualties. then i proceded to build industries and when i got to 50 factories i didnt get the achiev.... does anyone know why?
Nope,it's purely aesthetic. Only the top down rows matter for what type of unit can fill a row. If it starts with a certain type, the Rest has to be of that type (mobile, infantry or armour)
Hey Bitt3rSt33l! I'm just curious for your opinion on this - would it be a better for Belgium and the Netherlands to take Mass Assault as their doctrine, since it both gives them a boost to their manpower and makes the resistance for Germany absolute hell if they do capitulate? For your build, wouldn't it also help out with your heavy tanks?
@@thatguy3421 you don't really need a badass fleet, go axis and spam subs, feed them convoys from the mid atlantic regions to buff them and then start patrolling around the british isles. Should do the trick. 50-100 subs go a long way
It's interisting to use heavy tanks for defense. Could you explain if it still works with the new tank designer under no step back or is it better to use infantry only on defense now?
Great work as always! Would you care for a challenge friend? I challenge you to form Poland-Lithuania as Lithuania and only after that creating Baltic Union and killing soviets and nazis 🙂.
"my home nation still hasn't gotten a Focus tree,even tho they hold out longer than the netherlands who received a magnificent Focus tree" Me a brazilian who knows that México received a Focus despite the fact that Brazil contributed more by capitulating italy with the FEB:First time?
I think this is the first video I have seen of Belgium. The saltiness is real lol, a Belgian focus tree is the only thing I am waiting for anymore.
Belgium and all t he nordic countries need a focus tree and Italy is in a desperate need of an upgrade.
@@raippakeisari2342 Italy and the soviets. Mexico Spain turkey and Portugal all have better one than two of the main participants in the Second World War
@@raippakeisari2342 So... are you still here?
Just letting you know, we only need Belgium focus tree now.
I love how Belgium became a major in the meantime (32:00)
Belgium is inevitable, after all
If you have either 50 factories or are a faction leader it will happen regardless
@@Bitt3rSteel and i... play... on iron man historical focuses for that nice predictable ai
Even though bittersteel doesn't have the largest subscriber count, we are super committed. There are channels that have 5 times the people that don't have as many views per video.
I appreciate the support! Hope we can keep spreading the HoI love!
Bitt3rsteel: So lets do something with the congo
Me : *OH NO* _King Leopold II flashbacks intensify_
You can't hide any longer.... WE'RE COMMING FOR YOU
The of Belgium in ww2 was Leopard III
Oh god oh fuck
The weather went from sunny to cloudy to rain to hailstorm real fast
Welcome to Belgium
new video of bitt3rsteel? today is a good day
Agree
Nice run! I actually bagged this achievement yesterday and looked for videos today…
In my run (with NSB, Veteran difficulty), I created a circle of level 10 forts on all the Belgium VP’s and using the rivers where possible, and I didn’t use tank destroyers at all. I had 30 infantry divisions defending. France fell to Italy, so I was truly surrounded by Germans on all sides. Congo fell to Vichy France, but fortunately for me not before I had hit the 50 factory count (the two states in Europe only support 47 building slots…)! This happened in the fall of 1943, and by that time the casualty ratio between Belgium and Germany was 1:83 - meaning 70K casualties for me, 5.3 mio casualties for the Germans!
I made sure to keep an intel advantage against the Germans for that extra defensive bonus, and in the end my divisions had a defense of more than 2,000 incl all bonuses. Almost all my divisions were Veterans!
Commenting for the algorithm because I feel this channel is really underrated.
Ah I love it when Belgium breaks the spirit of the axis
That's so cool. I lived in Wallonia for a year and can confirm that Belgium is a great country. Hope to be back soon.
I hope for you im from Flanders
29:16 If there is one thing I hate about war score contribution is that you may contribute greatly to the war effort but the game still treats you as if you did nothing. In a Greater Greece playthrough I ended up bleeding around 3 million Germans on defense alone (In the end I even beat the soviets and Americans in inflicting casualties on the Axis). I ended up with 2% war score contribution regardless.
The system needs a lot of work, I agree
this is why so many people like the "player led peace conferences" mod because it kinda sorta fixes the injustice seen in the war score system.
Last time I was this early Belgium was still a part of the united Kingdom of the Netherlands.
was het nog maar zo :C
@@remocmisser774 zat er toch aan te komen, tja godsdienst he
*The Glorious Belgian Anthem playing in the background*
Me: Bruh which language do I sing it in doe
*Confused screaming*
All three at the same time xD
In honor of St Patrick's Day you should do an Ireland related challenge!
issue with Ireland is that, in this gane there isnt much to do
no cool formable, no flavor
its either go fascist and kill Britain for NI. Brittany and Navarra are optional but wont give you much. or stay democratic and wait more than the US before seeing any action in dday while you're a lot weaker than them
Damn, I'm gonna use this chompy template as anarchist spain to defend in the Pyrenees.
Never heard of Léon Degrelle before but after a quick search in wikipedia, I can definitely see why the people of Belgium don't like him all that much :D
Also nice work with the campaign. I've never done a democratic Belgium run myself so it was interesting to see how that could work out. :)
If you're planning on more formable nations, one suggestion is to create Persia as Iran or Afghanistan.
NOIS! You're a man of the people, giving them what they want! Tnx Bitt3rSteel!
Bitt3rsteel: Tries to make video on Belgium
Paradox weather gods: Hail shall rain upon you!!
Love your videos! Always a great accompaniment to lunch/dinnertime :)
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy these!
Here’s another twist you can do: the achievement requires you to START as Belgium but after that you only need to get the factories. You could release and play as your African colony (not as puppet) and join the Axis/commiterm and yoink allied/Portuguese colonial land.
Yeah but it would be easier to go fascist and form lux belgica or whatever it's called
Thanks for the guide, mate. Somehow managed to hold on to Belgium first time and managed to ask the US for control of states instead of advancing.
19:18 nice star wars quote bitt3rsteel
Glad to see us Blegians have such a good HOI4 player among us !
Mighty fine looking Belgium. Almost the best war participation, I didn't expect you'd be able to manage that, so great job! Also, did you say you want Belgium to be more like the Netherlands? ;-) (you want them to have a cool focus tree like us, it's not the same of course, but still...)
We are cousins after all!
@@Bitt3rSteel ik curious do you also speak Dutch/Flemish?
@@boaz1175 he does
@@greaterbelgiummapping1266 ah that’s really cool
Sometimes I wonder the way paradox makes those focus trees... Just like Belgium, Finland doesn't have special focus tree in vanilla and I bet there's lot of more countries that did something during ww2 but doesn't have their own focus tree.
Awesome work as always!
The virgin netherlands:
-Needs one of the best focus trees to be interesting;
-Normally boring if you're not a brown shirt or a red guard
-Lame shoes
-Bad chocolate
-Doesnt have congo
Versus the chad Belgium:
-So strong that it doesnt need a big focus tree;
-so based you can still be democratic and have fun;
-Based culture;
-epic chocolate;
-Has congo, but also Rwanda and Burundi because they're epic
At least the Netherlands has decent roads and isn't famous for having a king that tortures colonial subjects :)
"looks at Indonesia and starts sweating"
@@Bitt3rSteel Hey, you can't compare the treatment of the Indonesian people to the treatment of the Congolese people under Leopold xD
@@axilius_ Homie please dont take a shitpost seriously
Everybody here is about belgian supremacy
@@hugosenshida999 We will retake your waffle munching country again one day... just you watch
Bitt mentioned leon: I wonder what he did
(looks him up)
Oh......nevermind
10/10 Would conquer Germany again
Very impressive that you manage this with little preparation for this challenge specifically.
Personally I get rolled over by german AI even as France, let alone winging it with Belgium :D
Best way to defend against Germany is extend Maginot and turn it from the Maginot line to the Mega nope line.
Belgium is actually really strong for its size!
Brabançonne music at the start of the run? Yeah it's going to go great :D
No st Patrick’s day hoi4 Ireland challenge. Well can’t complain as I love your videos!
Belgian Lives Matter!
- Isorrowsproduction
I just searched this (I’m from Flanders)
This was actually fun to watch with our national anthem in the beginning
Groetjes uit Vlaams-Brabant
Big fan of your videos. Will you do a guide on Big Entente achievement? I've been trying to get that one for years!
Bitt3rSteel over here like "Listen I'm sorry if you're hearing a bit of noise in the background, I just live near a nuclear testing facility."
25:22 You very likely would have been better off picking infantry expert, 5 entrenchment will only every add 10% soft attack and 10% defense to your fully entrenched divisions. Furthermore entrenchment only stacks additively with itself (and then multiplicatively with other modifiers). This means that not only does it taker longer to build up your soft attack with ambusher, but you will end up with less total soft attack than infantry expert would have provided and it won't work offensively...
For example a 5 base + 7 (1939) engineer company entrenchment division stands to gain (2*(5+7)%)=24% soft attack and defense by fully entrenching.
Adding ambusher to this mix yields (2*(5+5+7)%)=34% soft attack and defense once fully entrenched.
Adding infantry expert instead yields a 1.24*1.1=1.364 (36,4% extra) soft attack modifier. and this modifier will still be 1.1 on the offensive, whereas an ambusher division gains no offensive benefit.
Ambusher is only ever worth it if the extra recon and defense from entrenchment is worth it, which it almost never is. Infantry divisions almost always have more defense than the enemy can throw soft attack at them.
This video is basically just Resist and Bite by Sabaton turned into a strategy.
Feedback, tortour and isorrow all at the same time!
Ok, so we have 2 hoi youtubers and the head of the kaiserreich youtube channel that are Belgian
Voor vorst voor vrijheid en voor recht
That Space Marine template is so broken.
Belgium built a Maginot by lining up heavy TDs at the border and hiding behind them
TFW Belgian Congo is one of the worst atrocities in history
theres a sabaton song about this, its called resist and bite, irl its about like 90 belguim guys fighting off a german horde during ww2
Rearguard action by the Chasseurs Ardennais. Ordered to hold the border and resist at all costs untill relieved, but the order to withdraw to the fort lines never reached them. Resulting in a heroic stand against the Wehrmacht
Let's goooo, I didn't know you where from also my home country.
O wauw ik dacht al dat je een vlaming was aan je accent, ik hou van uw content much love ❤️
You’re from Belgium? Hey we’re neighbours!
ooo a luxemburgian!
@@musAKulture almost, I’m Dutch
@@Thats_quite_cool thats simply north luxembourg
@@juicy342yt4 just like Belgium is the southern Netherlands
@@Thats_quite_cool both are north luxembourg smh
General with possibel adaptable trait exists
Bittersterl: I pretend I didn‘t saw this
Paradox should really fix peace deals, its annoying when you capture berlin and germany has lost over 10 million guys but they never surrender
"Fun fact, it is forbidden by law to return the mortal remains of Leon Degrelle to the country of Belgium for burial. That's how little we like him."
Oh? Wonder why?
*Google Leon Degrelle*
Oh... fair enough
Never knew that about Degrelle. Fascinating
Fantastic challenge.
Though I'm probably just gonna go with the Browshirts myself.
Any updates on Die Perfidious Albion as Vichy France?
I'm intending to start taking shots at it this weekend, because if I could get Go Ahead, Macau My Day without a guide, this should be significantly easier.
I'm a busy man, I'm afraid. It's still on the list but I've not had the time
@@Bitt3rSteel Perfectly understandable. The important part is that you have fun, because why bother if you aren't?
Looked up Leon Degrelle and man, what a disgusting human being. He got off scot free as well!
Hoi4 and storm... Perfect
As punishment for violating Belgian neutrality for the second time Germany went to border gore jail.
Belgium what are you doing stepgermany? 😳 *sweats in waffles*
Nice lebensraum for Frietkots!
12:23 why didn't you get the adaptable trait? :(
That general would spend most of his time standing still on a frontline (hopefully) so I prioritized defensive traits
Now all we need in the intro would be the speech of Spaak in parliament May 10th 1940.
Moi d'abord.
Bruh my nation is about to get a focus tree.
I'm italian, 6 years for a decent focus tree of a major.
The brabançonne at the begginning of the video!
At 10:20 you mention building heavy tank destroyers as they're cheaper, but they cost the same to make as normal heavy tanks. Would it not be better to build heavy tanks as the AI doesn't feel many tanks? Not trying to nitpick, just wondered what the thinking is.
You need fewer tank destroyers to fill a tank destroyer battalion than you need heavy tanks for a hebay tank battalion
@@Bitt3rSteel aaah, didn't think of that, thank you :)
Anyone else noticed that Bitt3r sometimes does a sound like Gopher from Winnie the Pooh? :D
i hope if pdx ever does a belgium ft, there should be a hidden path where u can get bitt3r as your leader xD
I did not know who Degrelle was at first when you said about him so I googled him and what did I expect? Of course he was a Nazi collaborator what could've he been but to not allow him being buried in Belgium actually seems silly to leave him in Spain where he is in pain because as we all know: Spain is Pain.
In-game, the Netherlands and Luxembourg are roadbumps, while Belgium is like one of those unexpected road bumps that send you up a bit and spook you
Wait you're belgian? I was there before coronavirus, beautiful country although I was only in Bruxelles and Antwerp
Resist and Bite to the extreme
I thought you were going to play the rt56 version? I think it was in the banana republic episode you mentioned it. Why do I remember that?...
I'll get around to it eventually 🙂
Challenge suggestion: Flip Germany Communist, join Comintern, become leader of Comintern, kick the USSR from the faction, and defeat the USSR
I felt your frustration when it came to the ai. I was playing as Communist Bulgaria and after fighting Germany I was able to puppet them and give them the majority of their land. But West Germany got the half of their land back. What makes it worst I was gonna take over Germany so that I can get their factories to become faction leader on the Comintern so I can get land that they took from Romania. But no the ai has to do their BS
Same with Czhechs? At least they have their own focus tree. And they can't save France which makes everything more interesting and complicated.
Germany looks fine they look just like my colony
Good one
As a fellow Belgian, i approve of this demonstration as the superior nation in Europe!
I love your videos bro
nah, it's even easier than what you said at the start. flip fascist, justify on dutch east indies and luxembourg at the same time (synchronize justifications), win. all the while building factories. boom, done. even a moron like me did it fast and easy
I've done it by joining the axis and grabbing all of the french factories
Hey Bitt3rSteel, got an idea, what if you form PLC with Lithuania?
Do you live next to ISP?
"What if Belgium cooperated with the Dyle Plan"
Fast forward to August 2022 and Belgium still had no focus tree
That border gore killed me.
Jaja het zuiderlijk reservaat krijgt wat aandacht, and for A challenge: as the Netherlands repudiate the treaty of London while not joining the facists/communist factions and surviving and defeating germany, italy and japan. Bonus points for not being facist or communist when Germany attacks you. (no benelux or eu )
It's realy painfull that HoI4 doesn't have the province borders and Vlaanderen and Waloon regions good. Oost-Vlaanderen does not have any coast at all and Limburg where I live is too small.
I respect you more knowing your from Belgium
For non-majors, I like playing as democratic Byzantine
bonjour
Army Effort 07/09/1938+70 d (Motorization Effort) = 25/01/1939 or (Mechanization Effort) start 19/11/1938 ...
Challenge: In KR, restore Independent Belgium and align with Entente, and bring Europe under Entente control.
Just did this in my play, it was hard but very fun.
Spare those hands please sir bittersteel
i managed to resist as belgium against the germans and caused them half a milion casualties. then i proceded to build industries and when i got to 50 factories i didnt get the achiev.... does anyone know why?
Does the way a unit template is layed out make a difference on the stats/performance of the unit?
Nope,it's purely aesthetic. Only the top down rows matter for what type of unit can fill a row. If it starts with a certain type, the Rest has to be of that type (mobile, infantry or armour)
@@Bitt3rSteel thanks. I knew the part about the top down, but i was not sure if people laid them out for a reason other than the look of it.
Hey Bitt3rSt33l! I'm just curious for your opinion on this - would it be a better for Belgium and the Netherlands to take Mass Assault as their doctrine, since it both gives them a boost to their manpower and makes the resistance for Germany absolute hell if they do capitulate? For your build, wouldn't it also help out with your heavy tanks?
I disagree. By the time you get to the good buffs, it's past the point in the game where you need em
Ah, that makes sense! Well, you've definitely proven Belgium's superiority over all of the 'major' nations, so I can't really argue... XD
I want to see Bitter3rSteel show us the best way to destroy the Royal Navy as the Dutch to get that achievement
It's easiest to simply annex the UK for the achievement. As that counts as them not having ships!
@@Bitt3rSteel that is anticlimatic. At least can we have a video of building up a badass fleet
@@thatguy3421 you don't really need a badass fleet, go axis and spam subs, feed them convoys from the mid atlantic regions to buff them and then start patrolling around the british isles. Should do the trick. 50-100 subs go a long way
@@Meulim what I am getting at is, what is a good navy build that does not require mass spam of subs.
I never bother trying to defend provinces that can be attacked from more than 3 directions
It's interisting to use heavy tanks for defense. Could you explain if it still works with the new tank designer under no step back or is it better to use infantry only on defense now?
I would have to test, but i don't think it would be all that terrible
Great work as always! Would you care for a challenge friend? I challenge you to form Poland-Lithuania as Lithuania and only after that creating Baltic Union and killing soviets and nazis 🙂.
He is from Belgium does he like waffles btw could we ever get weapons of the third emu war
"my home nation still hasn't gotten a Focus tree,even tho they hold out longer than the netherlands who received a magnificent Focus tree"
Me a brazilian who knows that México received a Focus despite the fact that Brazil contributed more by capitulating italy with the FEB:First time?
THE BOAR AGAINST THE EAGLE!
Very cool video
37:15 just alt + f4 and restart at the month start.... like cmon man
I mean you might as well hold onto the Congo, not like they'll be able to hold anything.
If I never call them into the war, they aren't at risk tho
@@Bitt3rSteel Yeah, but they'd have difficulty lending a hand.
They won't be able yo hand-le it
Are you from wallonia or flanders
( i am half walloon and half Flandre but i speak flemisch )