If I join axis and after the beating ussr leave axis and release ussr an independent state in my territories after thatdeclare war new ussr and beat him can I get achievement with this way
As a guy from Finland, I would like to show my appreciation to the brave Indonesians who fought the Soviet menace alongside the Finns. We are eternally grateful for your sacrifice.
in ww2 finish joined the axis to attack USSSR. but they took just the territory what USSSR has taken before the ww2 and left the axis, Hitler was so pissed of he wanted to invade finland
@@Jebu911 I mean it is the general gist of it. Substitute Continuation War for ww2 and Winter War for "before ww2" and "left the axis" for FInland agreed to a separate peace with USSR and "Hitler - - wanted to invade finland" for Lapland War, a limited scale war of retreat where German troops still in Finland hanged on to a nickel mine for some time before evacuating.
Mannerheim was a beast in real life as well. He served as commander-in-chief during the civil war back in 1918, as regent, WWII commander in chief, marshal, and finally president of Finland. A few years ago he was voted, by the finish people, as the greatest Finn of all time. His fight against the Russians for the independence of Finland has given him the name "The Father of Finland". So yeah, those stats are well deserved.
You forget he was a spy, a cartographer, and and explorer who rode across Asia and met Dalai Lama in Tibet, and who discovered priceless historical sites and was the first to take photograps of not just ruins but of people and their way of life in middle Asia. He was also a bodyguard of the last Tsar in his coronation, holding the most prestigious place in the front right of the four guards surrounding him. He volunteered in the russo-japanese war and rode for days or weeks behind enemy lines, sometimes preferring to go with mongol cavalry as the cossacks couldnt keep up. When the empire fell, he travelled for a week through communist held areas to reach back to Finland... Wearing his generals uniform and surviving on the sheer awe of the peasants who did not dare to attack or even report him. And he had a long line of mistresses, all of them of noble lineage, lets not forget that either. :-)
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Also speaking fluent Swedish, German, French, and Russian and very good English, Polish, Portuguese, Latin, Chinese and Finnish. Not too shabby. Obviously you are not a good leader until you speak Latin.
Finland unilaterally declared independence in the civil war/revolution and Lenin chose not to reconquer it. Instead, aiding the red brigades on the Finnish civil war, banking on the plan that those reds would seek to join the USSR. Did not end up working out
As a fun and interesting anecdote regarding Finnish-Soviet relationships during cold war when Finland signed so called YYA-treaty (The Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance of 1948, the treayty lasted until 1992), there was once a meeting beetween leaders president Kekkonen and Brezhnev in the seventies and during the dinner Brezhnev said to Kekkonen that as Soviets and Finns were living in peace and harmony with each others and YYA-treaty was working fine, so why would not they take step further and remove that meaningless border between Finland and USSR and join together as a great nation. Kekkonen repleyed; "Comrade Brezhnev, I am too old to run so big state." The matter was not discussed any further. :D
this is not super difficult, Ive done this in the past without taking any colonies etc. It did however earn me the "no country for old men" achievement 0 manpower on scraping the barrel conscription.
Wait, is the achivement still isnt out yet? because i wasted few hours on conquering soviet union on my shitty pc and wonder why i didnt get the achivement
Well, Socrates was killed totally democratically with made up charges of subverting the youth in a time when ucking young boys was considered fashionable.
Yeah barbarosa is the next dlc and will cover Soviet focus tree (FINALLLY). I expect finland to get it then. I don't think Mongolia will get focus cause it's a hopeless nation so I think all nordic countries and Russia? That would be pog and would almost clear Europe of Generic focuses.
Your strat reminds me of my vic2 campaing as Finland. I accended as great power after independece war with Russia. Then The Netherlands was like: Hey Finland, we have no money and we are selling our colonies. Intrested? And i answered: Hell yes. Then they sent me message about giving colony. I supposed they would give me some island in middle of sea, but they gave whole Indonesia. After that Finland, which had population of 700k had 10million people and money was flowing.
Funnily enough this was one of the first Hoi4 videos I watched ever, and I didn't even play the game at the time. I think the novelty of Finland defeating the Soviets was what got me. Anyway, it's really interesting to rewatch it now that I actually understand what's going on.
I always love watching your videos because I both use these strategies to get achievements on my games and because of your voice that rivals the soothingness of Taureor
That's alright. AIs can be unpredictable sometimes. I've been binge-watching your campaigns since last Thursday, started out with your Communist China campaign. They were all fantastic! I hope you can do a campaign where you can unite all ASEAN states as communists and then puppet China and Japan (like a reverse of what Japan did). That would be cool.
I have a little over 800 hours in hoi4 and i never really bothered with maintanence company. Following this guide i obviously did as you did, and added maintanence company to the division template. I was absolutely shocked seeing my infantry eq go up by the thousands as the soviets were smashing themselves against my forts. Jesus this was fun.
A hepfull tip: when you have these kinds of peace deals, dont just take the provinces with the ports and the ones bordering their claims, you have to really take all coastal provinces and the ones bordering what they took. If not they will try to take "your" stuff. Besides, if u dont puppet and decide to anex everything, eventually germany japan and other majors will start to take provinces inside that territory, or puppet/liberate nations.
@@lmao6762 They are cancerous until you exploit the game to get them. Its a very unpopular idea i know but for me the only way to get the achievments without feeling disgusting is by exploiting
@@Bitt3rSteel I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Greater Finland and wouldn't have minded a bit more talk about mechanics/details. Well done! Just one question: What do you think would have gone differently if Germany hadn't claimed the pocket of Soviet land in the south?
Did you know that U.S. threatened to declare war against Finland if Finland were to advance beyond certain railroad in the continuation War? That is why Finland's push against Soviets was stopped. Finland took more land than they previously had before Winter War and they planned using the extra land in the contract for peace so that they would get back the land they lost in the Winter War... That peace treaty was never done since Soviets never surrendered. Pushing back the fins and winning the Winter War...with great losses... So I wouldn't say the allied forces to declare war on you wasn't that surprising and was totally historically accurate (On the state the world had changed in game - if you know what I mean).
That last happens when you wall up real high, one dude player as Luxemburg and maked lvl 10 fortifications and the germans avoided him until he went out xD
I recon that the silent majority can talk about both, but choose not to as they have more productive things to do then go into a pointless debate. Ooh... and since the opinion of others is so important to you... fascism and communism both suck. The far left and the far right will just have to make do with meeting in the middle under democracy instead of throwing eachother out of helicopters or into "labor" camps.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede I absolutely agree mate its what im getting at. people know full well the horrors of the right but (for many reasons) give a free pass to the extreme left. Please dont be condescending towards me with the 'Ooh since the opinion of others is so important to you'. Keep it civil bud. Both the extreme left and extreme right are awful beyond measure. Both the gulag and the concentration camp need to be spoken about along with the famines, genocides, secret policing and masses of murder that come along with them. I agree with you 100% on there. no need for the smarm though matey. Either way have a good one
@@erictheroman5813 I misjudged you, sorry about that. I'm probably the last generation that got taught the horrors of both communism and fascism at school extensively. I was brought up with the iron curtain still in place, but with the wall comming down so did the geopolitical pressure to fear the East. What remained after was the history of the war and suffering that actually did happen to the country I live in and communism got a back seat as it is remebered as a frivilous time instead of a terrible one that not only Stalin, but also Churchill orchestrated. I still find myself looking in contempt at the east to this day because of the history and molding that happend in my youth. Putin's aspirations to remain a world player doesn't help and neither do the Tu-95's flying overhead.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede Its alright matey, no worries :) And i imagine living in the iron curtain era was a test of spirit. Little by little we will remember the horrors of Communism.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede Clearly you need to be educated on the subject. Democracy is not the solution or is the middle ground between left and right. In fact the right is NOT fascism, far far right is but the right almost always has to do with a capitalist economy centered nation. At least communism works in theory, while Fascism... not too much. the left is socialism far left communism etc. DO NOT associate communism with he gulag since that was not Marx's intention of communism. Stalin and Soviet leaders didn't govern like communism with the gulag. Fascism is overall bad though and for that it's different than communism. COommunism is a "perfect world" ideology that could work, meanwhile fascism is an extreme right ideology that can only bring war and chaos to the world. I hope you understand what I mean??!
Great video, but I found out that on the current patch, you usually have to allow the Netherlands to remain free so Germany can get around the Maginot effectively.
So, after pretty much following this guide, and using Barbarossa and the latest patch by 09/19/2022, I ended up at war with the Soviets and I found out some things: 1- If you build up your army like the guide specifies, the Soviets won't actually attack you because between their lines and yours there's a lot of ground that's basically a "no-mans-land" where supply is almost unexistent, both for you and for them, so beware if you counterattack. You can use this to your advantage in Northern Finland, but be aware of going too far and getting divisions encircled. 2- If you feel you have enough good divisions, you can actually make a push towards Petrozavodsk to cut the railway towards Murmansk and at the same time take the supply hub for you. 3- While all this is happening, you'll be better off improving relations with Germany, Italy and Japan (and for that matter, everyone who's willing to give you some stuff) in order to be able to hold the line and counterattack the Soviets when the Germans invade, especially to compensate every truck and train you lose because of Soviet bombing (use armored trains maybe?) 4. Just in case, recruit some garrisons for your ports (10w with artillery and engineers will do just fine), in case the Soviets decide to naval invade Helsinki or any other port. A couple of coastal forts will also be of help to disuade the Soviets from invading you that way. Frontline divisions I used 9-1 (9 infantry-1 artillery) with engineers, maintenance, and support artillery and anti-air. 4- I used three collaboration governments in the USSR (remember to us localized training agencies to avoid your spies getting caught all the time). For some reason, though, I still had to reduce their victory points to 20% in order to cap them. I still got the compliance benefits though, and I was able to flank the Romanians and the Germans for control of most of the territory east of Moscow and Stalingrad. 5- If you have some spare mills, build Transport Planes. It's literally impossible to advance your frontlines without them after taking Leningrad (you can take it pretty much at the start of the war) and without military access from the Germans (I actually don't know if your supply vehicles can use Supply Hubs taken by a "neutral" faction; so be aware of it when you push the Soviets past Velikiye Luki and before you get to Rzhev and Moscow. 6- Despite evertyhing I explained so far, achievement didn't fire for me, so I'm about to backstab the Germans while holding off the Japanese because they declared on the East Indies after I capped the USSR. I even managed to cap the Soviets with the most warscore, even surpassing the Germans and Romanians, but I couldn't capture Moscow even though I took part in the battle to capture the city, so maybe achievement didn't fire because of it. If anyone can help me with what to do next, I'd really appreciate it.
Well that was MISERABLE. Without access to Amsterdam, moustache man stalled out in Belgium and never set foot in France. Without the Blitzkrieg ever succeeding, Barbarossa never happened. This meant I had to fight and beat the Soviets alone. In 1948, with 20+ million dead Russians, countless encirclements, millions of captured guns, tanks, and cannons, and many, many hours of my life I'm never getting back, it's over. It's Finnished. Thanks as always for the videos!
Bro great intro 10/10, i recommend you make more of those when making longer guides in order to get that refreshing comedy before all of the suffering and eye cancer whenever the AI makes peace deals.
Nice guide! I used it to get the achievement. It gave it to me straight after the peace conference (I led the conference as I had the most war score and did not puppet the Soviet Union).
FYI: The wiki states that you just have to capitualte the USSR and take Moscow, while also having over 15% war participation. Got the achievement in 1942, thanks!
Guys I think bittersteel made the achievement before the achievement was released... It doesnt trigger that way.(at least in my game) The guide is brilliant but the two and a half hour it took me to destroy the axis were completely wasted. There is a much faster way. Step 1: Follow the guide and crush the soviets Step 2: In the peacedeal take only Leningrad and press end. Step 3: Release Leningrad as free and immediately justify on them Step 4 : Crush them again Step 5 : Profit Save yourself time and the huge amount of cancer I got from this achievement. Thanks Paradox for making me lose my sanity
If you wait to do military youth (or the communist one) until after you flip ideologies, you get a very nice boost to party popularity which means higher stability. Well worth waiting for because of the bonuses linked to stability.
This was the last achievement I needed to get. Thank you for the set up. However on my game Germany never broke through Belgium and was stalled for years so they never invaded the Soviets. I was able to take Leningrad early in the war which helped me induce a lot of casualties early, so when my counter attack started I had an easier time cleaning out Finland. But I did have to beat the Soviets on my own. And did
I imagine how confused hittler would be if the leader of finland explains him that he refused joining their aliance because he needs to get an achievment
@@artunozsoy well the thing is UK ai is so dumb that you can naval invade at the start of the war. I usually caputlate Uk faster than France with Schlaffen plan
I think the UK did like with historical focuses Home Defense and did then a alternative focus i think its called Benelux Intervention or just Dutch Intervention There also focuses in the branch like Scandinavian Intervention etc. that give the UK once requirements are complete a war goal against those following nations once the UK complete the focus. The UK can only do these focus once the following nation(s) has/have over 30% brown party or over 30% red party support which the AI doesn't do normally so I think the AI did a bit of an alternate scenario.
This is a work of art. Sorry about your sanity though. I'm also sorry to see you abuse the Netherlands and Indonesia this way, but I'll admit it seems the best way to do this without joining a faction. Question: why did you pull the Netherlands in so late into the war? You could have forced another front on the Germans? All in all, great game! I expect Paradox to make this easier when the achievement comes out, so you already did it on expert mode ;-)
there is an amazing GFX mod for 3D models of units for many countries ( including finland ) called M2 Total or M3 Total ( mod was relunched ) and its great if you ever get bored of the same plain boring vanilla models, it also adds plenty of new models for special forces and has variations depending of the weapons year tech, its great you should try it.
I wonder what Indonesian conscripts would have thought of the Finnish climate.
Abby Normal they would have thought "man this Cold is *finnishing* me"
They would not stand in the winter war with Red Army irl. I am suprised Suharto is leader of Finnish East Indies.
@Dzaky Aries wkwkwkwk
@@TreeBeard2008 I’m pretty sure fascist East Indies always has the same leader.
If I join axis and after the beating ussr leave axis and release ussr an independent state in my territories after thatdeclare war new ussr and beat him can I get achievement with this way
As a guy from Finland, I would like to show my appreciation to the brave Indonesians who fought the Soviet menace alongside the Finns. We are eternally grateful for your sacrifice.
in ww2 finish joined the axis to attack USSSR. but they took just the territory what USSSR has taken before the ww2 and left the axis, Hitler was so pissed of he wanted to invade finland
@@zexfafa2794 Thats not how it went down. Im finnish so i actually know how it was. Also the name is USSR with just two S letters.
@@zexfafa2794 what is usssr bro
@muumilimu ???
@@Jebu911 I mean it is the general gist of it. Substitute Continuation War for ww2 and Winter War for "before ww2" and "left the axis" for FInland agreed to a separate peace with USSR and "Hitler - - wanted to invade finland" for Lapland War, a limited scale war of retreat where German troops still in Finland hanged on to a nickel mine for some time before evacuating.
Mannerheim was a beast in real life as well. He served as commander-in-chief during the civil war back in 1918, as regent, WWII commander in chief, marshal, and finally president of Finland. A few years ago he was voted, by the finish people, as the greatest Finn of all time. His fight against the Russians for the independence of Finland has given him the name "The Father of Finland".
So yeah, those stats are well deserved.
You forget he was a spy, a cartographer, and and explorer who rode across Asia and met Dalai Lama in Tibet, and who discovered priceless historical sites and was the first to take photograps of not just ruins but of people and their way of life in middle Asia.
He was also a bodyguard of the last Tsar in his coronation, holding the most prestigious place in the front right of the four guards surrounding him.
He volunteered in the russo-japanese war and rode for days or weeks behind enemy lines, sometimes preferring to go with mongol cavalry as the cossacks couldnt keep up.
When the empire fell, he travelled for a week through communist held areas to reach back to Finland... Wearing his generals uniform and surviving on the sheer awe of the peasants who did not dare to attack or even report him.
And he had a long line of mistresses, all of them of noble lineage, lets not forget that either.
:-)
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Also speaking fluent Swedish, German, French, and Russian and very good English, Polish, Portuguese, Latin, Chinese and Finnish. Not too shabby. Obviously you are not a good leader until you speak Latin.
I am not sure but it wasn’t Lenin who give independence to Finland?
Finland unilaterally declared independence in the civil war/revolution and Lenin chose not to reconquer it. Instead, aiding the red brigades on the Finnish civil war, banking on the plan that those reds would seek to join the USSR. Did not end up working out
@@mayonasse6397 Nobody gave it to them, they declared independence and the soviets recognized it soon after.
Everyone gangsta till Finland establishes colonies in europe
If i remember that hitler promised belgian congo for finland😂
@@tomi9562 what? For real never heard of that
@@Mysohvaperuna yes he did
@@tomi9562 not true!
@@cinderellaandstepsisters it is, but Finland rejected the offer
As a fun and interesting anecdote regarding Finnish-Soviet relationships during cold war when Finland signed so called YYA-treaty (The Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance of 1948, the treayty lasted until 1992), there was once a meeting beetween leaders president Kekkonen and Brezhnev in the seventies and during the dinner Brezhnev said to Kekkonen that as Soviets and Finns were living in peace and harmony with each others and YYA-treaty was working fine, so why would not they take step further and remove that meaningless border between Finland and USSR and join together as a great nation. Kekkonen repleyed; "Comrade Brezhnev, I am too old to run so big state." The matter was not discussed any further. :D
BASED KEKKONEN
I don't get it.
The finnish leader implied that if Finland joined the Soviet Union, that HE would be the new president instead of the current soviet guy
@@stormsand9 more like he implied that the soviet union should join finland, lol
Bro got titanium balls and based
*Ahh yes, the Finnish Indonesian conflict of 1937*
Yes, I remember this from high school
Historical game btw.
@@LauWarmerTee I read that with "FeedBackGaming" voice in my mind.
@@red-whiteasianpatriot7003 omg me too!
Yup
Rest of the world: let's colonize Africa and Asia
Finland: I'm gonna colonize in Europe, I hate travelling
This is the type of guy to try to survive as Austria rejecting the Anschluss
Anschluss? More like Expandschluss!
this is not super difficult, Ive done this in the past without taking any colonies etc. It did however earn me the "no country for old men" achievement 0 manpower on scraping the barrel conscription.
You definitely made Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim proud by holding the Mannerheim line in Karellian isthmus.
When the achievement isn't even out yet... haha love it though
Taureor did this first
@@MarcusBlueWolf true
Wait, is the achivement still isnt out yet? because i wasted few hours on conquering soviet union on my shitty pc and wonder why i didnt get the achivement
@@alt.10 its out now, you sure you did it right?
@@Aaronnnnnn i didnt join any faction but i got expeditionary forces from sweden so it might be because of that?
is attacking leningrad
BitterSteel: Stalingrad
Grad is Grad!
Every Soviet city is Stalingrad
@@scvboy1 You're goddamn right!
@@scvboy1 No Evry Soviet City Is St.Petersburg
@@Bitt3rSteel you just straight up said "city is city"
4:49 is awesome. "Sadly we have to go towards something I can't pronounce... coz I fear our totally democratic algorithm catching me" ... the irony
Well, Socrates was killed totally democratically with made up charges of subverting the youth in a time when ucking young boys was considered fashionable.
Finland needs it's own focus tree. I would expect it in a future DLC focused on USSR and it's neighbours along with reworked Soviet/Russian tree.
it will come sooner than an italy update
I think that's supposed to be the next update.
Yeah barbarosa is the next dlc and will cover Soviet focus tree (FINALLLY). I expect finland to get it then. I don't think Mongolia will get focus cause it's a hopeless nation so I think all nordic countries and Russia? That would be pog and would almost clear Europe of Generic focuses.
@@hoplite-official5011 Italy ethiopa and Liberian focus tree dlc!!
Finlands need a Focus Tree, they had a big important rol in the Winter War and the Continuation War
This is the kind of sponsorship I'm here for
Freaking youtube forbids specific words even in historical game
Welcome to politics
@Dzaky Aries Anything that's not Communism.
@Dzaky Aries starts with f and ends with -ascism
@Dzaky Aries facism and war
Unless the person in the video is condemning it
Your strat reminds me of my vic2 campaing as Finland. I accended as great power after independece war with Russia. Then The Netherlands was like: Hey Finland, we have no money and we are selling our colonies. Intrested? And i answered: Hell yes. Then they sent me message about giving colony. I supposed they would give me some island in middle of sea, but they gave whole Indonesia. After that Finland, which had population of 700k had 10million people and money was flowing.
what mod you was using because i dont think there is an option to buy colonies
@@fish5671 hpm
@@Mokkilaituri thanks for the answer
Meanwhile, I lost as Germany to Britain and France the sixth time in a row.
i just got it, dont wait for germany to attack, just manually push when the sovjets have lots of casualties
Me to
i cant win against the soviets as the germans with cheats and he wins as finland without cheats
Just build 7/2s and you can almost battle plan everyone you need to fight
Funnily enough this was one of the first Hoi4 videos I watched ever, and I didn't even play the game at the time. I think the novelty of Finland defeating the Soviets was what got me. Anyway, it's really interesting to rewatch it now that I actually understand what's going on.
Me as a dutch person: aaaah nice video
Him: whe need a country with alot of population and has acces to water
Me: well *finish east indies it is*
Well, at least he didn't put you in the front line ._.
USSR: _Exists_
Finland: *NoNIIN, Tavataan Torilla Perrrrkele*
PERRRRRRKELLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOREVER
hhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahhaahaahhahahahahah
@@TheGruntPieceIsReal Leo=Leoleikkimaa
I always love watching your videos because I both use these strategies to get achievements on my games and because of your voice that rivals the soothingness of Taureor
So it wasn't only me who thought that he sounded like taureor
It took them nearly 4 years to add Mannerheim as a usable field marshal though
And still havent given Finland a Anything better than basic focus tree :D
@@no-nonseplayer6612 Swed devs don like de Fins
@@NZIGNANTI No one likes the finns.
@@TheFrozenFever Finns don't like Finns. Finns like a lot of personal space.
@@TheFrozenFever 😳
You should have annexed Karelia and Murmansk. You're talented at this game btw.
Muurmanni* not Murmansk
@@Birkarl_ liian lähel myrtsii
He annexed the entire russia in the end
Damn! That was a bloody campaign. Especially during the attack on Germany! Then the UK started trolling you. Lol
It was a slog, I admit. In hindsight, I should not have released the Netherlands and used the area as a staging ground for the invasion of Germany
That's alright. AIs can be unpredictable sometimes. I've been binge-watching your campaigns since last Thursday, started out with your Communist China campaign. They were all fantastic!
I hope you can do a campaign where you can unite all ASEAN states as communists and then puppet China and Japan (like a reverse of what Japan did). That would be cool.
I have a little over 800 hours in hoi4 and i never really bothered with maintanence company. Following this guide i obviously did as you did, and added maintanence company to the division template. I was absolutely shocked seeing my infantry eq go up by the thousands as the soviets were smashing themselves against my forts. Jesus this was fun.
:o 35:32 "Karjala takaisin!", you took that saying to the next level.
I swear when it comes to bloodthirsty Britain takes the cake. I can’t say how many times Britain did something stupid.
It messes up any game. Any achievement run, as Tommy may said, is always a kill-them-all run.
Well, not necessarily. There's usually a way around fighting at least one faction. Bit not always.
A hepfull tip: when you have these kinds of peace deals, dont just take the provinces with the ports and the ones bordering their claims, you have to really take all coastal provinces and the ones bordering what they took. If not they will try to take "your" stuff. Besides, if u dont puppet and decide to anex everything, eventually germany japan and other majors will start to take provinces inside that territory, or puppet/liberate nations.
That was a Perkele worthy journey, my man!
Bruh
Chances of us getting a 30 minutes of hell 🤔
everybody gangsta till the allies declare war on their allies
I love that these videos continuously get better
Thanks! That is the plan,after all!
When I get hoi4 I’m speedrunning a bunch of achievements if I can
I recommend the game, but try and take it slow at first. get a feel for the mechanics etc
Bitt3rSteel alright will do
@@lmao6762 They are cancerous until you exploit the game to get them. Its a very unpopular idea i know but for me the only way to get the achievments without feeling disgusting is by exploiting
When you get the Game start in south America and play for a few ingame years
@@ankomekurosan2811 I got all but two of the achievements without exploits, and had a good time with many of them
You can hear the soul get sucked out of steel's body with every ally that declared on him
Thanks for the good content man. Glad to see your channel growing!!
Thanks James!
A hour long?!? Sign me up
I had to cut down almost 4 hours of footage, and I already feel like I cut too much...it's the best I can do :(
@@Bitt3rSteel I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Greater Finland and wouldn't have minded a bit more talk about mechanics/details. Well done! Just one question: What do you think would have gone differently if Germany hadn't claimed the pocket of Soviet land in the south?
Overal, I would have kept the Dutch territory myself and used it as a staging area to invade.
I would not involve the Russians
Did you know that U.S. threatened to declare war against Finland if Finland were to advance beyond certain railroad in the continuation War? That is why Finland's push against Soviets was stopped. Finland took more land than they previously had before Winter War and they planned using the extra land in the contract for peace so that they would get back the land they lost in the Winter War... That peace treaty was never done since Soviets never surrendered. Pushing back the fins and winning the Winter War...with great losses...
So I wouldn't say the allied forces to declare war on you wasn't that surprising and was totally historically accurate (On the state the world had changed in game - if you know what I mean).
i imagine there's a bit of a grudge against america for that.
Finland kinda has a history of being bullied by basically everyone. I wouldnt be suprised if they had an encyclopedia-sized book of grudges.
@@poiuytrewq11422 mentioning the Book of Grudges is apt considering Tolkien based his work off Finnish mythology.
In my game, the Soviet Union and Germany went weird. Germany couldn't get past Belgium and the Soviets straight up just refused to attack my defenses.
That last happens when you wall up real high, one dude player as Luxemburg and maked lvl 10 fortifications and the germans avoided him until he went out xD
It bugs me that people dont like the talk of Fascism or anything to do with it but are perfectly fine with Communism.
I recon that the silent majority can talk about both, but choose not to as they have more productive things to do then go into a pointless debate.
Ooh... and since the opinion of others is so important to you... fascism and communism both suck.
The far left and the far right will just have to make do with meeting in the middle under democracy instead of throwing eachother out of helicopters or into "labor" camps.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede I absolutely agree mate its what im getting at. people know full well the horrors of the right but (for many reasons) give a free pass to the extreme left. Please dont be condescending towards me with the 'Ooh since the opinion of others is so important to you'. Keep it civil bud. Both the extreme left and extreme right are awful beyond measure. Both the gulag and the concentration camp need to be spoken about along with the famines, genocides, secret policing and masses of murder that come along with them. I agree with you 100% on there. no need for the smarm though matey.
Either way have a good one
@@erictheroman5813 I misjudged you, sorry about that. I'm probably the last generation that got taught the horrors of both communism and fascism at school extensively. I was brought up with the iron curtain still in place, but with the wall comming down so did the geopolitical pressure to fear the East. What remained after was the history of the war and suffering that actually did happen to the country I live in and communism got a back seat as it is remebered as a frivilous time instead of a terrible one that not only Stalin, but also Churchill orchestrated.
I still find myself looking in contempt at the east to this day because of the history and molding that happend in my youth. Putin's aspirations to remain a world player doesn't help and neither do the Tu-95's flying overhead.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede Its alright matey, no worries :)
And i imagine living in the iron curtain era was a test of spirit. Little by little we will remember the horrors of Communism.
@@MerkkledingSchreeuwdArmoede Clearly you need to be educated on the subject. Democracy is not the solution or is the middle ground between left and right. In fact the right is NOT fascism, far far right is but the right almost always has to do with a capitalist economy centered nation. At least communism works in theory, while Fascism... not too much. the left is socialism far left communism etc. DO NOT associate communism with he gulag since that was not Marx's intention of communism. Stalin and Soviet leaders didn't govern like communism with the gulag. Fascism is overall bad though and for that it's different than communism. COommunism is a "perfect world" ideology that could work, meanwhile fascism is an extreme right ideology that can only bring war and chaos to the world. I hope you understand what I mean??!
That was very Perkele of you. I enjoyed this a lot. Thanks from Finland!
Thank you for your sacrifice in making this video
Great video, but I found out that on the current patch, you usually have to allow the Netherlands to remain free so Germany can get around the Maginot effectively.
Thanks for the guide! Only had to use your defence strategy + indonesia strategy, but anyways thanks to this I got the achievement on first try.
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So, after pretty much following this guide, and using Barbarossa and the latest patch by 09/19/2022, I ended up at war with the Soviets and I found out some things:
1- If you build up your army like the guide specifies, the Soviets won't actually attack you because between their lines and yours there's a lot of ground that's basically a "no-mans-land" where supply is almost unexistent, both for you and for them, so beware if you counterattack. You can use this to your advantage in Northern Finland, but be aware of going too far and getting divisions encircled.
2- If you feel you have enough good divisions, you can actually make a push towards Petrozavodsk to cut the railway towards Murmansk and at the same time take the supply hub for you.
3- While all this is happening, you'll be better off improving relations with Germany, Italy and Japan (and for that matter, everyone who's willing to give you some stuff) in order to be able to hold the line and counterattack the Soviets when the Germans invade, especially to compensate every truck and train you lose because of Soviet bombing (use armored trains maybe?)
4. Just in case, recruit some garrisons for your ports (10w with artillery and engineers will do just fine), in case the Soviets decide to naval invade Helsinki or any other port. A couple of coastal forts will also be of help to disuade the Soviets from invading you that way. Frontline divisions I used 9-1 (9 infantry-1 artillery) with engineers, maintenance, and support artillery and anti-air.
4- I used three collaboration governments in the USSR (remember to us localized training agencies to avoid your spies getting caught all the time). For some reason, though, I still had to reduce their victory points to 20% in order to cap them. I still got the compliance benefits though, and I was able to flank the Romanians and the Germans for control of most of the territory east of Moscow and Stalingrad.
5- If you have some spare mills, build Transport Planes. It's literally impossible to advance your frontlines without them after taking Leningrad (you can take it pretty much at the start of the war) and without military access from the Germans (I actually don't know if your supply vehicles can use Supply Hubs taken by a "neutral" faction; so be aware of it when you push the Soviets past Velikiye Luki and before you get to Rzhev and Moscow.
6- Despite evertyhing I explained so far, achievement didn't fire for me, so I'm about to backstab the Germans while holding off the Japanese because they declared on the East Indies after I capped the USSR. I even managed to cap the Soviets with the most warscore, even surpassing the Germans and Romanians, but I couldn't capture Moscow even though I took part in the battle to capture the city, so maybe achievement didn't fire because of it. If anyone can help me with what to do next, I'd really appreciate it.
7:33 "Correct ideology" ah but of course lol.
Thanks for making these great guides👍
i love how he kept on calling Leningrad Stalingrad over and over again.
Well that was MISERABLE.
Without access to Amsterdam, moustache man stalled out in Belgium and never set foot in France. Without the Blitzkrieg ever succeeding, Barbarossa never happened. This meant I had to fight and beat the Soviets alone.
In 1948, with 20+ million dead Russians, countless encirclements, millions of captured guns, tanks, and cannons, and many, many hours of my life I'm never getting back, it's over.
It's Finnished.
Thanks as always for the videos!
“toad anti air”
Bro great intro 10/10, i recommend you make more of those when making longer guides in order to get that refreshing comedy before all of the suffering and eye cancer whenever the AI makes peace deals.
Nice guide! I used it to get the achievement. It gave it to me straight after the peace conference (I led the conference as I had the most war score and did not puppet the Soviet Union).
FYI: The wiki states that you just have to capitualte the USSR and take Moscow, while also having over 15% war participation. Got the achievement in 1942, thanks!
Great work. I did it thanks to you. Lost maybe around 2-300k casualties, but Soviet over 5 millions from me alone XD
1-hour long video woot woooooooooot
Damned. Never thought taking Dutch East Indies 😂
And Carl Gustav Mannerheim & Kyösti Kallio didn't seem to think about that either (IRL) 😂
When you want to win, hire a finn.
Really useful if you share your button inputs as with "Shift-Excercise so they stop when they're lvl3"
Thanks for sharing!
The infantry soldiers running when sped up! 🤣😂
Guys I think bittersteel made the achievement before the achievement was released... It doesnt trigger that way.(at least in my game) The guide is brilliant but the two and a half hour it took me to destroy the axis were completely wasted. There is a much faster way.
Step 1: Follow the guide and crush the soviets
Step 2: In the peacedeal take only Leningrad and press end.
Step 3: Release Leningrad as free and immediately justify on them
Step 4 : Crush them again
Step 5 : Profit
Save yourself time and the huge amount of cancer I got from this achievement. Thanks Paradox for making me lose my sanity
Russian Empire: W... Who are you?
Greater Finnland: i'm you, but better
Can We Just Take A Moment to appreciate the Casualties this Guy Gives and The Amount of Casualties This Guy Takes
Would love to see an updated guide for no step back!
Perkele! What a beautiful idea.
Okay, Sir.... *Finnish Him!*
If you wait to do military youth (or the communist one) until after you flip ideologies, you get a very nice boost to party popularity which means higher stability. Well worth waiting for because of the bonuses linked to stability.
30:15 dont say that, Mongolia was a power house when Ghenghis Khan ruled
This was the last achievement I needed to get. Thank you for the set up. However on my game Germany never broke through Belgium and was stalled for years so they never invaded the Soviets. I was able to take Leningrad early in the war which helped me induce a lot of casualties early, so when my counter attack started I had an easier time cleaning out Finland. But I did have to beat the Soviets on my own. And did
This was entertaining. Good job
would be good if they helped me in real life to defeat soviet union
They did, especially with attack on Leningrad
@@98TrueRocker98 yea man i know but theu did goodat start but later they were crappy
@@Immushfiqurrahman our policies were never to expand after we got our old borders back
I'll just thank god they didn't
@ Why bro
Can’t wait to see the videos on the new dlc
HOW DARE YOU TAKE NETHERLANDS REAL ESTATE - OK good play greetings from Dutchman
I imagine how confused hittler would be if the leader of finland explains him that he refused joining their aliance because he needs to get an achievment
Thank you, I've been waiting this for long a time the achievement introduced. Also can you do the "Our Other Place in the Sun"?
Its not that hard unlike others. Just caputulate The Allies and get the UK's caribean islands.
@@bltsevdallarfanclub641 It's pretty hard me to do that, as you guess I'm a noob at HOI
@@artunozsoy well the thing is UK ai is so dumb that you can naval invade at the start of the war. I usually caputlate Uk faster than France with Schlaffen plan
@@bltsevdallarfanclub641 thank you
@@artunozsoy the secret is to not guarentee poland
I am a little sad the Tordenskjold achievement didn't win, but honestly, I would have been genuinely surprised if it did.
All UA-camrs re: Finland: "You cannot hold the whole front line against the Russia."
Me: lol, yes you can.
Battlecry next :):):) ? please THANK you:D and great job man you are the best :D
I think the UK did like with historical focuses Home Defense and did then a alternative focus i think its called Benelux Intervention or just Dutch Intervention
There also focuses in the branch like Scandinavian Intervention etc. that give the UK once requirements are complete a war goal against those following nations once the UK complete the focus. The UK can only do these focus once the following nation(s) has/have over 30% brown party or over 30% red party support which the AI doesn't do normally so I think the AI did a bit of an alternate scenario.
Mannerheim already made us proud RIP our great leader ❤
i just love watching people from other countrys trying to speak our monster of a language
UA-camr' challenge is a bigger threat to Netherland than German
The taxed tank division. Yay.
My Germany literally couldn't get 1 tile into Belgium and Italy was being Italy, so I had to get on Soviet Union 1v1
This video got a cameo on TommyKay’s Twitch and UA-cam VOD channel
That's pretty cool!
This is a work of art. Sorry about your sanity though. I'm also sorry to see you abuse the Netherlands and Indonesia this way, but I'll admit it seems the best way to do this without joining a faction. Question: why did you pull the Netherlands in so late into the war? You could have forced another front on the Germans?
All in all, great game! I expect Paradox to make this easier when the achievement comes out, so you already did it on expert mode ;-)
there is an amazing GFX mod for 3D models of units for many countries ( including finland ) called M2 Total or M3 Total ( mod was relunched ) and its great if you ever get bored of the same plain boring vanilla models, it also adds plenty of new models for special forces and has variations depending of the weapons year tech, its great you should try it.
"I am scared for the algorithm" so lets call them the brown party. These days brown is also very scary to say hehe
Great video thank you!
Man, imagine this fucking history lesson.
12:12 the moment that event popped up i also got it lmao
When you flipped to the browns, you said "More stability gone" but you gained 1 stability lol
31:31
Literally Winter War
I have waited this so long
I love How the troops scream käskystä Lol
Herra upseeri!
Everyone gangsta till the taxed tank division has 0 armor
Russia: I fear no country, buthose that THINGS, they scare me.
Finland: -Farmers
Finland doesn't join the Axis
Germans: Still taking Lapland bruh.
Finland: Perkele.
Lmao I’ve been waiting for this
:)
Im finnish
20:58. Changing divisions to colonial templates, how did they all become veterans?
It happens from time to time. It's weird. But it does fix itself.
Oh yes. "The Finnish Indies"
GLORY TO THE EMPIRE OF FINLAND?!?!?!