When The Avoidant Realizes You're Gone - THIS Happens

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    In today's video, Thais Gibson discusses what happens when the avoidant attachment style (dismissive avoidant attachment style) realizes you're gone after a break up.
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    00:02:16 - Feelings Minus Fears
    00:04:15 - Melting Iceberg
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    00:08:34 - Step #1: No Contact
    00:09:34 - Step #2: Question Your Stories
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  • @AlvinStone76
    @AlvinStone76 14 днів тому +100

    Irony of life:
    "We get irritated by people who care for us, and run behind the people who ignore us.
    We ignore those who adore us, and adore those who ignore us.
    We hurt those who love us, and love those who hurt us."

  • @maetan2682
    @maetan2682 15 днів тому +159

    I hope there is a video to help avoidants do their adjustment and effort in their relationships especially with anxious ones. The world seems only adjusting to them.

    • @Gabriel-ws2ez
      @Gabriel-ws2ez 15 днів тому +14

      It is not just for dismissive avoidants, an anxious style also needs to heal and make the adjustments, if you are thinking that they are the only one that needs to change it would also be the other person that needs to change I am a dismissive avoidant and I have had a person with anxious and fearful avoidant style they didn't want to realize that they also needed healing as well, but I hope this will help you out, take care

    • @maetan2682
      @maetan2682 15 днів тому +31

      @@Gabriel-ws2ez Thanks, yes, I know that is why I’m watching the videos on this channel but it is mostly how we all can understand avoidants but almost nothing about how avoidants must also do their job. That is what I’m trying to say. 🙂

    • @julesD0222
      @julesD0222 15 днів тому +32

      Exactly! I agree 💯 most DA videos on this channel focus on how other attachment styles need to adjust to them, not on how the DA can heal their core wounds, nor how they can adjust to the needs of their partner

    • @Gabriel-ws2ez
      @Gabriel-ws2ez 15 днів тому

      ​@@maetan2682 your welcome I meant to be sincere, it is a tough battle for me and really depends on the extent of how long the relationship has lasted for, 15 years for me the other night I had a dream where I was with her again and felt trapped no matter door I tried to go out she or the other persons that she had manipulated was blocking the doorway for me to leave and it was so bad that it was very hard for me to wake up it made feel drogy all day.

    • @nevadanites
      @nevadanites 15 днів тому

      ​@@maetan2682adjustments these people have major psychological issues, they don't need adjustments, they need major work

  • @verasmith1900
    @verasmith1900 2 дні тому +8

    I changed the perspective and I don’t want to raise a 50 year old man. Changed my mind! This will take years to fix but first he needs to admit he has a problem! I’m done!!💯💯

  • @kjshow4173
    @kjshow4173 14 днів тому +76

    This began in February. We broke up last Saturday. I'm working on myself through Integrated Attachment Therapy. Wish me luck y'all. I'm 53, and still growing.

    • @vivy45
      @vivy45 14 днів тому +4

      Im 53. My husband of 15 years left me in December.

    • @vivy45
      @vivy45 14 днів тому +4

      You don't need luck. You will get 'there'. Give yourself some grace.

    • @user-mv7vl9yc8g
      @user-mv7vl9yc8g 14 днів тому

      Good luck man, I'm 24 my ex just broke up with me at Thursday because of a major mistake I made

    • @jordanr7290
      @jordanr7290 11 днів тому +4

      You are already whole and complete. I decree that you will realize it. Happy healing ❤️‍🩹 I know it hurts, let it. And let it remind you of just how powerful a force you are to let heavy emotions move through you

    • @philipcrocker
      @philipcrocker 2 дні тому +2

      Almost there myself, you keep going...

  • @tabarnakopoulos
    @tabarnakopoulos День тому +5

    My avoidant discarded me 3 months ago, slightly before my birthday. We had been together for 6 months. I've been maintaining no contact ever since. She hasn't contacted me either. Meanwhile, I have mourned the relationship, and I'm in the process of moving on. I care enough about myself to let go of her and continue to be happy and lead a fulfilling life! And I care less and less about her!

  • @cnote3580
    @cnote3580 14 днів тому +43

    The avoidant should only engage in casual relationships. You can't self sabotage where there's no commitment

    • @SkyePhoenix
      @SkyePhoenix 13 днів тому +2

      Oh, but you can! When you start to develop feelings for the other.

    • @cnote3580
      @cnote3580 12 днів тому +2

      @@SkyePhoenix the avoidant fears emotional intimacy it's one of the things that makes them run

    • @leti7595
      @leti7595 День тому

      Hello, I dont have a lot of experience. Mine let me think it was serious, he talked about future and I realized I was just a friend with benefit. Well, it would've been great if he was honest about the relation being casual 😞

  • @user-or8zf2mh2r
    @user-or8zf2mh2r 8 днів тому +11

    It a natural feeling that we want people to miss us and hurt like we have during the process. We have to learn to stick to our boundaries and not allow people to break them just because we think they could be the one. Some people are so messy within themselves that no one isn't going to be good enough for them and that's actually sad. Especially when we are old enough to know better!!

  • @Kay-zv3mk
    @Kay-zv3mk 13 днів тому +24

    So I’m an FA and I attracted 2 DA’s into my life over the past year. The first one I became so anxiously attached that it exploded in my face and I spent 4 months just healing from it where it was hard to feel okay. Then when I was finally starting to feel okay again I attracted another DA where I didn’t get so attached but still felt it. That just ended recently, and it feels like the healing has gone like 10x faster and I am no longer crying over the lost person so much, but over my own self being so disconnected and wounded. The journey has taught me to care about myself so much, and I even have so much more empathy for the DA this time around, seeing how scared and damaged they are deep down. It makes me realize how much we all need to love and take care of one another, and that starts with taking care of ourselves first.

  • @michaelboard7925
    @michaelboard7925 14 днів тому +22

    She always told me that she didn’t want a serious relationship. She pursued me first and we made a deep connection. She liked my background and my morals. It seemed like she didn’t want to lose me. But then she pulled away and prioritized everything except for me. I thought that I could show her that I was worth it.

    • @sj3969
      @sj3969 14 днів тому +5

      This is the dynamic that I think a lot of people run into with avoidants. It’s been my experience as a DA that the men I’ve dated always think I just haven’t met them yet, so they can change me. None succeeded. Hopefully, in the future you walk away to avoid such hurt.

    • @SunshineAndSnowflakes
      @SunshineAndSnowflakes 14 днів тому +9

      That first line is all you needed to know. She said she didn't want a serious relationship. That's where it falls on you. It sucks and it's painful, but we really need to listen to people when they tell us their intentions.

    • @Theviewerdude
      @Theviewerdude 12 днів тому +7

      The same exact thing happened to me. I wasn't even that into her initially. She love bombed me, then discarded me when I was all in.

    • @SunshineAndSnowflakes
      @SunshineAndSnowflakes 12 днів тому +5

      @@Theviewerdude it could be her attachment, but she also could have no longer been interested. The word discarded is thrown around as loosely as narcissist now. People are allowed to say they're all set and leave. Isn't it better than keeping it going for years? I'd rather know early on.

    • @nadinablagajcevic5014
      @nadinablagajcevic5014 12 днів тому +1

      @@SunshineAndSnowflakesbut what if they don’t say anything? The treat you afterwards like almost nothing happened? That’s not fair!

  • @MICHAELAnderson-vk5we
    @MICHAELAnderson-vk5we 8 днів тому +4

    People like that miss out on what the possibilities are. Someone who is there cares and loves them for who they and not what they are.

  • @khairullhafidz432
    @khairullhafidz432 14 днів тому +15

    Needed this video, been going no contact for a month and tried to reach out to see how she was doing, she was still cold and I was still emotionally unprepared. No regrets though, i felt I needed to do it and I did, looking forward to healing fully as I have been! And I know deep down she will miss me and miss the values i brought to her life. Its just the difficulty at accepting something so awesome can disappear within 2 weeks. Yes she ghosted me and decided to breakup with me after ghosting me. Left me blindsided and had to pick up the pieces on my own, but i am glad that it happened as we both needed space to work on ourselves. I am a AP so its definitely harder and I am aware of that.
    Wishing everyone the best of luck on their journeys! Remember that you were something to them, and they WILL feel it. But please focus on yourself! sending love!

  • @khushiprabhudessai9760
    @khushiprabhudessai9760 14 днів тому +13

    Best option is throw avoidants out of your life permanently and move on to new person 😌😌😌 this people are mad they don't deserve relationship this avoidants should actually remain unmarried forever 😌

  • @derekazyan9942
    @derekazyan9942 14 днів тому +15

    My DA gf of 6 years dumped me a month and a half ago. She was having an emotional affair/Flirtmance with her boss who’s a dentist. After going no contact after she dumped me, she texted me wanting to work things out. I said I wanted to work things out also, and we went on several dates. After the 4th date I thought things were going really well. Then she tells me she was going for dinners with him behind my back, while we were trying to work things out. She said she met him at a restaurant and afterwards gave him a bj in his car. She came clean. I was disgusted. Now she says she wants to work things out with me. Now she’s acting all loving. I’m trying to make it work cause I love her still, but I feel absolutely betrayed and don’t trust her.

    • @jeveuxetrelibre
      @jeveuxetrelibre 14 днів тому +10

      I’m sorry. That’s despicable behavior and you deserve better. Good luck ❤

    • @andrewhobbs2727
      @andrewhobbs2727 14 днів тому +1

      she will use sex outside the relationship as a blocker and distancing technique for the love she feels for you . textbook avoidant .

    • @dandanut5409
      @dandanut5409 13 днів тому +7

      that's despicable behaviour ... why do some of this attachment style get a kick from cheating and lying and other such like malignant behaviour?

    • @flagirl0315
      @flagirl0315 13 днів тому +5

      Sounds like she’s messing with your heart and likes the attention from you and him. Is she a narcissist? Sounds like triangulation. I’d walk away. You deserve better

    • @dandanut5409
      @dandanut5409 13 днів тому

      @@flagirl0315 there s scientifical studies most DAs like triangulations even if just flirt but it can be more.

  • @AlvinStone76
    @AlvinStone76 14 днів тому +42

    🎉I am old school... Either someone wants to be with you or they don't. Some of you guys just don't listen to what a female tells you and try to change her to meet your needs.
    If a woman tells you I don't want kids, a committed relationship, don't need a man, not looking for marriage, you need to follow your first inclination.

    • @SunshineAndSnowflakes
      @SunshineAndSnowflakes 14 днів тому +4

      Perfect.

    • @hurricaneaquatics
      @hurricaneaquatics 14 днів тому +1

      Well that's a given isn't it? If you pursue someone after them telling you all of that, then there's something majorly wrong with you.

    • @AlvinStone76
      @AlvinStone76 14 днів тому +1

      Not really .... Why are you here?

    • @sj3969
      @sj3969 14 днів тому +3

      Exactly! I’m that woman. I never NEEDED a man, but I did want one at some point. Partially biological I assume and the other part societal pressure. In fact, I would say a good portion of my dating experiences stemmed from trying to be normal but that’s a conversation for another day. I tell men I don’t want kids, marriage and I even question cohabitation, and they just nod and smile. They tell me I’m cool and independent. Eventually, they get pushier, some almost aggressive as they pick me apart over time. Why don’t you want this thing like my ex did? Don’t women typically love birthday parties? The best was the conservative guy who told me I’d be perfect if I hadn’t let my feminist education poison my mind. I’m great broodemare material I guess, just these pesky brains getting in the way.

    • @AlvinStone76
      @AlvinStone76 14 днів тому +1

      And I was once that man. I lost the love and friendship of a great woman by projecting my insecurities onto her.

  • @bl4ckoutseven709
    @bl4ckoutseven709 15 днів тому +31

    Thank you for this video :)
    I feel sad because we had a great time together
    I hope I was important to her

    • @Dreamsareareality
      @Dreamsareareality 14 днів тому +3

      This was the sweetest comment. ❤

    • @suite662
      @suite662 14 днів тому +7

      You were. Please know that.

    • @beaker7353
      @beaker7353 11 днів тому +3

      Me too, I hope he eventually remembers the love and fun we had

  • @certifiedhoarder
    @certifiedhoarder 15 годин тому

    Great vid. I spent 14 yrs married to a DA who was deeply wounded by childhood abuse. i wish id know how to manage her better from the start. We couldve avoided much heartache. She needed me for her needs but didnt want to meet or hear about mine. I paid the divorce lawyer last week. Learning who i am again for the first time in quite a while!

  • @kriskelley3562
    @kriskelley3562 10 днів тому +1

    This was so helpful. Thank you.

  • @andrewhobbs2727
    @andrewhobbs2727 14 днів тому +1

    your content is simply amazing ..xx

  • @rohithiyyattil
    @rohithiyyattil 14 днів тому +2

    Thank you so much for considering my comment on the previous video and speaking much more purposefully and intent...

  • @imranmuhammad8105
    @imranmuhammad8105 14 днів тому +1

    Amazing video. I could relate to this a lot. Thank you.

  • @Gabekhp
    @Gabekhp 4 дні тому

    Thank you so much.

  • @GA-ik6pi
    @GA-ik6pi 15 днів тому +6

    Thank you for this. I’m a anxious preoccupied type 😂, however not sure if I’m that anymore. My ex husband is a avoidant type, though seems that he could be changing, I dk. I’ve had to change for myself.
    We are reconnecting after having divorced two years ago.😔
    Not something I wanted, as I love him❤. And he says he loves me.
    As there was a betrayal of trust on his part, it’s trying to rebuild. Forgiving, not forgetting what happened. But concentrating on the now.

  • @krose318
    @krose318 8 днів тому +6

    The moment you said the avoiding is afraid I have to call out the BS. They're risk assessment, and they decided you weren't worth the risk. 😅😂

    • @Littleowl85352
      @Littleowl85352 8 днів тому +1

      The relationship wasn't worth the risk. Not the person. But often you can't have any contact at all because the person wanting the relationship will hold onto false hope

  • @LisaFrazier-kv5df
    @LisaFrazier-kv5df 10 днів тому +1

    We’re both like this! It’s awful. I’m just learning this stuff… thank you 🙏

  • @LenkaSingh-gl2be
    @LenkaSingh-gl2be 14 днів тому +8

    I honestly don't know what I would do without you and the personal development. Thank you Thais ❤

  • @NeuroTechTalks
    @NeuroTechTalks 3 дні тому

    My Da and I (FA) long distance had a heated exchange. I reached out 24 hrs later I was still upset and he ended things and cancelled a major relationship milestone. I reached out multiple times via text requesting a conversation and empathizing and sharing I understand why he shut down (although we were both at fault). I was told “I hope you’re better for the next person and I will not discuss anything with you”. What next? I want to save this.

  • @Donna_73
    @Donna_73 6 днів тому +1

    Doing the healing work now. Thank you for the info you provide. We’re all a work in progress. ❤

  • @NewyJon7787
    @NewyJon7787 14 днів тому +3

    I love my avoidant ex....no doubt about it. I don't know if i could ever trust them to stay even if she came back. She has run off twice now. Currently 5 weeks since the break up, however i admit i did attempt to reach out until she blocked me. I would not be shocked if she came back, but equally not shocked if i never hear from her again.

  • @nahomelion
    @nahomelion 15 днів тому +4

    Hi Thais can you please make a video on FOMO and what core wounds it’s associated with? I think shame, I am bad and not living in alignment to your needs are key components of it. Love you sm

  • @bknoxx
    @bknoxx 12 днів тому +1

    after my last go around with mine im done.. the ignoring and running and lies and stress... 20 days ago she totaled my new truck.. i wasn't even mad then 2 days later she blocked me and hasn't said a word since.. last time i talked to her she said goodnight i love you and then blocked me... it's not worth the stress

  • @Karolina-vi2wt
    @Karolina-vi2wt 11 днів тому

    Step #2 !!!

  • @lilove6560
    @lilove6560 14 днів тому +1

    I like the segue way into the course info on this video - less abrupt and hearing the metrics is helpful💗

  • @WahkeenaSitka
    @WahkeenaSitka 14 днів тому +10

    Thais, I'm pretty sure that I have watched literally every single video you've put out in the last year about the Dismissive Avoidant. I feel like I've heard you say the same thing, reiterated, many times. I'm really curious if there is anything new about this topic, that I haven't already heard before. Is there any new insight, or nugget of wisdom? Because I've heard Feelings minus their Fears hundreds of times, and I totally get it.

    • @Grungeflutter
      @Grungeflutter 14 днів тому

      I love Thais and all her videos. I found this person very informative as well and a little different information but both very good. 😊ua-cam.com/users/liveOkIxfPL0x64?si=fE4fqIQdJT0PKucl

    • @usurpxsynapse
      @usurpxsynapse 14 днів тому

      are you listening to understand yourself, or someone else?

    • @karenwilson7757
      @karenwilson7757 14 днів тому +1

      😂

    • @andrewhobbs2727
      @andrewhobbs2727 14 днів тому

      wow . burn . how about some gratitude for everything she has taught you ? .... - for free ... its obvious you have not watched all the videos , or you would not have posted such a self entitled comment

  • @0Demiyah0
    @0Demiyah0 14 днів тому +8

    How do Dismissive Avoidants deal with being broken up with? Especially if DA were satisfied with the status quo, and the other person was secure, calm and kind in separating with them, after a relatively peaceful relationship (no volatility / rollercoaster of intense push-pull and arguments/making up)
    I imagine the separation elation is not that strong if present for the DA in this case, and they might hit their emotions sooner.
    How does the advice in this video change if the DA is the one burned with rejection and losing someone they deeply loved and still wanted to be with?

    • @amiaow
      @amiaow 14 днів тому +8

      I'm in this position. We still speak a little. In the meantime, everything I post on social media is liked within 5 minutes... it's a bit much. I have seen them once for coffee since I broke it off, and at the end they gave me a huge hug and said they wanted to catch up again for lunch and then they wanted to come to my house to meet my cats (they always refused to come to my house!). So they are chasing me, but if I give them a compliment, pay them too much attention, engage in a longer conversation then they back off... for about a day. I have moved on and am dating other fabulous people and am very happy.

    • @0Demiyah0
      @0Demiyah0 14 днів тому

      @@amiaow glad that you have found the will to move on and are very happy :) that's important.
      I told mind that I am ready in my life for a man who wants the same things I do; full commitment, ring on my finger and marriage! Somebody who sees me as the woman to grow old with.
      I did have quite a good relationship with my DA, but that full commitment was something he was not Emotionally available for. We shared a lot with each other, including the sometimes vulnerable talks that are required for deep understand. We drew out a calm, loving and respectful joy in each other. Friendship was always the cornerstone that we could fall back on when it got wobbly, but the last two years it was never rocky. I think it's 50/50 that he will come back and propose to me.
      Anyway, I told him I don't want to be friends. We should give each other space to focus on our own priorities. I wouldn't be able to focus on meeting my next big love with his energy around. I also cannot introduce him to a future husband as "just a friend" - it would be a lie.

  • @kalencorrie8525
    @kalencorrie8525 14 днів тому +7

    The da was on and off, on and off according to the levels of familial responsibilities required, boredom and need for validation. I know now he “quasi” came home when he needed space from those situation-ships. I don’t need to be a da to know us normies have these moments too. I got over my badass childhood, wiped my nose and fought hard for a better life for me and my kids.

  • @RufNex559
    @RufNex559 14 днів тому +7

    Why would i even give a shit what they feel?

    • @gregvanpaassen
      @gregvanpaassen 14 днів тому +3

      Why did you bother to comment? You do care.

  • @johnmaus4408
    @johnmaus4408 14 днів тому +6

    But first they would have to go so far as to figure out what they want then tell you. There in lies the issue

    • @kaitlynkarol4600
      @kaitlynkarol4600 3 години тому

      Yep! These personality types are not sure of who they are or what they want. They tend to suffer a major identity crisis and never find themselves as throughout life, that is all they can do - narcissistically pursue themselves b/c they don't know themselves so this is why they can't know you or want to pursue you b/c they don't know or care enough about themselves.

  • @AngelVoice-cy2mw
    @AngelVoice-cy2mw 14 днів тому

    Love this clip, it s the first time you talked on ordinary speech, i really love the content but sometimes talking too fast made me leave the clip before it ended. Thank you.

  • @Philippines888
    @Philippines888 2 дні тому

    Not worth the time if they don’t want the love you’re offering… they I think don’t care if ure gone… for a month I’ve been chatting, he was flirting and such… he sweet and giving me his time and attention early morning when he’s up. But later he just being relax.. I the one often initiating to chat till we reached one month and he said we’re moving too fast… I fought for him, still giving him my attention and sent him letters, snail mail and some other stuff.. and last May 3 I have heard from him that he said he only wants friends… last we talked that one and I stopped initiating to chat with him… been 2 weeks now that we have no communication… I gave up. I rather have to focus on myself and my job. If one dont want my love and attention, then no problem to that,.. I know the good one is just right there waiting for me.

  • @NawazeHomes
    @NawazeHomes 12 днів тому

    My boss is lady who initiated contact, and then left but I have no idea how deal with this she doesn't want me to move on neither I want.

  • @blakegillette839
    @blakegillette839 12 днів тому +2

    I stopped wanting my DA ex back. Worked on becoming secure and really worked on emotional regulation. Had to do modified no contact because we work together. Finally broke no contact because I just want to work on the professional relationship and kill the tension as best as possible. Now, he's super anxious and angry towards me. Says he doesn't trust me (have no idea why as I didn't cheat, lie, steal, or initiate the break up)...but I am just so drained by him, I don't care about being the villain in his story. Just want to be cordial at work. Has anyone else dealt with this delayed weird residual anger from the DA? He like shakes when I speak to him and it's super off-putting. Made me realize I dodged a bullet. I'm just sick of minimizing myself for his comfort at work and refuse to do it anymore. Suggestions on how to handle this without being a totally inconsiderate asshole? Because I'm getting to that point lol

    • @dandanut5409
      @dandanut5409 12 днів тому

      Don't mind his feelings at all. He is mad because he knows he was the monster and in error and can t take you are moving on. Again don't mind his feelings at all, even laugh in his face when you can. Remmember he didn't mind yours. If he can't be professionally consistent perhaps society is not for him and he should go living in a cave. Take heed of nothing when you interact with him. Just treat him like you would treat any other colleague. And if he gets unprofessional or unethical treat him like you would treat any unethical collegue. But if I were you I would have a little fun with it and play with his feelings (never anything romantical make sure you tell and show him he is not worth it) just by exhausting him emotionally.. when I would see him shaking then sticking around and pushing his buttons harder. He sounds like a selfish prick.

    • @sj3969
      @sj3969 12 днів тому +1

      Honestly, as a woman, a man shaking and getting all spazzy just because I spoke to him would scare the hell out of me. I’m a DA and I’ve never read this being something we do, nor have I experienced it. There’s something more going on there as is with all of us because we’re not only our attachment styles. I would too say you dodged a bullet, and I would also lean towards maintaining the no contact for your possible safety. Leave that man alone, he doesn’t sound stable at all.
      The comment above sounds crazy. Woman to woman, I assume you understand the fear of being in a situation with a man who you’re not certain of? When has it ever been a good idea to try to poke out a reaction? You could get hurt and HR wouldn’t be able to do anything but fire him. Again, I say stay away from him. This situation gives me the ick. Safety first always. You don’t need to understand him, we will leave this life not understanding many things and sometimes for very good reason.

  • @patriciaalvarez1523
    @patriciaalvarez1523 11 днів тому

    Is that course in the personal developement school?

  • @a.d.b535
    @a.d.b535 14 днів тому +2

    Trying to work out getting back together with my avoidant. He likes to spit out one sentence of his thoughts sandwiched between unrelated conversation. I'm now asking him to think about our needs and wants and find a time to discuss the road map going forward. He's a little slow in scheduling that convo.

  • @BeepBoop-on8uf
    @BeepBoop-on8uf 14 днів тому +1

    If a DA rarely ever reaches out, do I break no contact? I know almost every video says the "dumper" is the first to reach out, but if avoidants don't reach out, how do you re establish that connection?
    It's the decision of the dumper to come back. How does that work with the paradoxical nature of avoidants? Thank you ❤️❤️✨✨
    Would absolutely love your thoughts on this. Thank you ✨☀️❤️

    • @Littleowl85352
      @Littleowl85352 13 днів тому +5

      Well I guess they either do or they don't? The thing is you can't make them come back by trying to do it. Chasing is super super unattractive. Just live your best life and focus on you so that if they do resurface, you're well equipped to manage whatever goes down.

  • @deborahbastin1602
    @deborahbastin1602 14 днів тому +3

    What about a DA having an affair after 39 years of marriage? He’s back and forth with me and affair partner? Is there hope in saving our marriage?

    • @Ahb2121
      @Ahb2121 13 днів тому

      Make sure it’s just ‘DA’ and not narcissism. Cheating and narcissism often go hand in hand and stringing along two women is extremely selfish to both.

  • @zachstewart7233
    @zachstewart7233 День тому

    How do you respond to their da when they are breadcrumbing you when it may be their only attempt

  • @shannonbenfield703
    @shannonbenfield703 15 днів тому +3

    Do they typically just go back to who they're comfortable with and not come back or commit to a new relationship that only made it to the three-month point?

    • @riverchick23
      @riverchick23 15 днів тому +1

      I hope so lol! It was 4 years for me.

    • @shannonbenfield703
      @shannonbenfield703 15 днів тому

      @@riverchick23 Ugh. That's a long time. I' think I'm watching too many videos about the different attachment styles. They're all excellent, but I'm still so confused. I have to force my self to stop overthinking as well. Very frustrating. Best wishes to you!

    • @darkredrose7683
      @darkredrose7683 15 днів тому +1

      As a FA, no. I don't go back to an ex no matter how comfortable that was. (Only personal experience)

    • @sj3969
      @sj3969 14 днів тому +1

      DA, I don’t go back and I didn’t find someone new for months/years. Now I just don’t date

    • @darkredrose7683
      @darkredrose7683 14 днів тому

      @@sj3969 same. Best, a FA

  • @christophererck4832
    @christophererck4832 7 днів тому

    I’m not clear on no contact. What if the DA contacts you? Do you ignore them? Or respond but never actively reach out to them?

  • @carlton2457
    @carlton2457 4 дні тому

    Do we need to tell that avoidant person at this point of time that it's over.. will that work?

  • @johnnycomelately6341
    @johnnycomelately6341 14 днів тому

    One of your better talks.
    In my situation there was infidelity on the side of the DA, any comments?

  • @MrChachiyo
    @MrChachiyo 11 днів тому

    What about the FA?

  • @rednvocal
    @rednvocal 14 днів тому +1

    What if there was no real relationship, because he is a workaholic and there were only 7 get togethers in 3 years? Does this apply?

    • @SkyePhoenix
      @SkyePhoenix 13 днів тому

      I think so because it's fairly common to be in "situationships" with DA's.

  • @michelethompson7300
    @michelethompson7300 3 дні тому

    How do you know when someone is an avoidant or just a self centered, selfish, neglectful person.

  • @sj3969
    @sj3969 15 днів тому +5

    Interesting. As a DA I don’t think I’ve went through a depressive episode in the long term of a break up, but immediately after. However, I do believe all of my break ups for good reason. I’m a woman who doesn’t want marriage, children and hell maybe not even living together. This means I run into a bunch of men who wouldn’t be good for me or happy with me after a while, so I tend to cut things off. I feel sad a bit, but righteously lmao. However, it is stated that this depressive episode might come after a long term relationship…I don’t do those so maybe that’s why I haven’t experienced it.

    • @aigo000t
      @aigo000t 15 днів тому +4

      This is why I don't understand people who put a lot of focus (or any) on AT in short term relationships(when attachment most likely isn't there yet). Both, when it comes to APs who will spend months psychoanalysing their short flings and DAs who say they couldn't care less about their ex (also probably a stranger who turned out to be unstable). You broke up because of incompatibility, like a secure would. There's nothing to be depressed about long term, there's no loss of attachment figure. It sucks but one moves on, like an adult. DA can break up for valid reasons, not because it's avoidance.

    • @ronmexico8383
      @ronmexico8383 15 днів тому +10

      What a fulfilling life you are living. Did you ditch your parents too?

    • @aigo000t
      @aigo000t 15 днів тому +3

      ​​@@ronmexico8383do you care to explain what's so triggering to you in that comment? In your world view they should be in a relationship with someone who isn't compatible with them and wants different things in life? Or you cannot imagine a fulfilling life without a romantic partner?

    • @nevadanites
      @nevadanites 15 днів тому +9

      You think all your breakups were a good choice? How would you know otherwise? The very core of a dismissive avoidant is to sabotage relationships through a defense mechanism of deactivation which are distancing strategies. Since its subconscious and it's a defense strategy you have no clue if it was a good choice or not, you're responding by fear most likely.

    • @ld921
      @ld921 15 днів тому +5

      @@nevadanitesall the excuses she made are defense mechanisms, I ask about dealbreakers on the first date, any man who wants children is a no because I have 2 already, no point in a second date, but to continue seeing a person then discarding them months later whilst saying all these reasons sound like defensive mechanisms imo

  • @jenaskye1567
    @jenaskye1567 14 днів тому

    How does it work when your DA husband is in an affair? Is the affair a copeing mechanism?

  • @JuuC
    @JuuC 11 днів тому +1

    What is a creatures comforts?

    • @auemmjee
      @auemmjee 9 днів тому +1

      Material comforts

  • @skywalker847
    @skywalker847 12 днів тому +2

    Avoidants are not afraid of commitment, they were taught to be solitary.

    • @auemmjee
      @auemmjee 9 днів тому

      Then why do they date? I abstained from dating for 11 years. That is what real solitary life is.

  • @mercyveritas1125
    @mercyveritas1125 14 днів тому +3

    Question for u Thais, do avoidants ever realize they are actually hurting themselves in the long-run by pushing others away? I don't think anyone wants to be alone for the rest of their life right

    • @SunshineAndSnowflakes
      @SunshineAndSnowflakes 14 днів тому +4

      You have to weigh your pros and cons. I've never once pushed someone away that was actually healthy. Another thing is that romantic relationships are truly not as important to some as they are to others. I have a big family, friends, people I network with, a business that I love running. I travel a lot, preferably by myself. I love having my kitties. My life is pretty cool. Why would you think we fear being alone?

    • @Littleowl85352
      @Littleowl85352 14 днів тому +2

      I'm not Thais but I'm avoidant and I have an understanding that my central nervous system suffers from a lack of this "connection" thing that seems so popular among all you normies. However I remain quite sceptical because I have only managed to attract really sick people during my life and it's hard to imagine anyone could be trustworthy or sane enough to be a long term partner that would be better than my own self reliance. But the understanding is there that it's not sustainable and that my central nervous system has indeed suffered. I'm looking to evaluate my current friends to see who I could potentially be a bit more "open" with, as an experiment. I'm pretty successful through not having spent much time on romance, I'm doing very well at work and in my career field and just about to finish my Master's degree. I would have hoped to be fairly happy just on my own with cats but limerent fantasies and chronic anxiety are taking their toll.

    • @LeeChrissy
      @LeeChrissy 14 днів тому +3

      I can't speak for all avoidants and I test secure now, but as someone who has predominantly lived life leaning avoidant, I find that people are too unpredictable to be focused on finding a partner. In my 44 years, I've dated 1 secure person and he left to be with his ex. So from what I've experienced, not even SA's are always safe to date. While I am open, I don't find dating to be important enough to seek out a partner. I never have. As for growing old without a significant other, that can happen anyway. People divorce, people die, people cheat and leave. I mean, nothing in life is permanent so why try and "lock in" a forever partner out of fear?
      FYI, I wouldn't mind hearing Thais's take either.

    • @mercyveritas1125
      @mercyveritas1125 14 днів тому +1

      @@SunshineAndSnowflakes I don't mean just in a romantic relationship. Avoidants act pretty much the same with friends and family too, so do they realize pushing away em doesn't really achieve anything? Unless they are just satisfied with superficial stuff in which most of em are. I think they just avoid looking deep within themselves and try to rationalize their self-sabotaging behaviors and compensate in other areas

    • @mercyveritas1125
      @mercyveritas1125 14 днів тому +1

      @@SunshineAndSnowflakes I guess u are a dismissive avoidant? Why deny urself the need for deep meaningful connections? Humans are all biologically wired for them, and u are not an exception to the rule. U can rationalize or compensate with other distractions, but ur real self still desires real connections with others

  • @jellyjams7217
    @jellyjams7217 13 днів тому +1

    I’m an avoidant. Why don’t I just date another avoidant so we understand each other and have our own relationship style instead of trying to fit into someone else’s over needyness

    • @flyflyaway2024
      @flyflyaway2024 12 днів тому +2

      It's the avoident at problem here, they can make even a healthy person needy! I was a Fa dating a FA and it did not work. Anyone with an attachment style problem needs therapy. Stop settling for less for yourselfs and others. Hurt people, hurt people..... not very attractive tbh

    • @SunshineAndSnowflakes
      @SunshineAndSnowflakes 11 днів тому +1

      I prefer dating avoidants and I've always leaned avoidant. It doesn't last, but neither have the relationships I've had with FA's, AP's and even secure.

    • @user-cf6mb6ke2i
      @user-cf6mb6ke2i 11 днів тому

      I’d take a really long look at that comment and maybe think about yourself instead of playing the blame game

    • @flyflyaway2024
      @flyflyaway2024 11 днів тому +1

      @@user-cf6mb6ke2i I already have looked at my own mistakes and that's why I'm happily single now 😊 no relationship is worth torment or risking you're mental health over. I will stay single until I do my own inner work and when ready, meet another who has done the work aswell 👍

  • @ZeCahli
    @ZeCahli 5 днів тому

    Don’t care. These people need to grow up, and stop treating others like crap.

  • @michaelstoddard4608
    @michaelstoddard4608 13 днів тому +1

    So, all I’ve gotten from every single one of these types of videos. If you and a DA break up, just move on and forget it. They are not coming back and if they do, they are not about the relationship at all. Just being selfish

  • @mjrsportscards
    @mjrsportscards 14 днів тому +3

    What if they’ve moved on to someone new?

    • @remydrh
      @remydrh 14 днів тому +3

      Curious about this too. If their "creature comforts" involve a new relationship quickly. Is that even effective or repeating a pattern they'll eventually recognize?

    • @flagirl0315
      @flagirl0315 13 днів тому

      Some do that to numb how they feel then that’s when they reach out to an ex while with someone else. It’s messed up but a lot to do it. Bc they don’t have to commit to either person but will try to have their cake

    • @remydrh
      @remydrh 13 днів тому

      @@flagirl0315 wonder if that plays into the regret dynamic. Apparently regret happens but it takes a long time to finally analyze what happened in the relationship.

    • @flagirl0315
      @flagirl0315 13 днів тому +1

      @@remydrh to some extent but I think it’s just bc of their unavailability. Fantasizing about the past and not committing to the present is a way of staying emotionally unavailable

    • @flagirl0315
      @flagirl0315 13 днів тому

      @@remydrh once they take come back trust me it doesn’t change. Even if it did it’s short lived. Been there done that many times and regretted it. Bc they fantasize about the past then come back and reality hits again and the cycle repeats. I’d even argue many times worse than the first time.

  • @lisaramoutar7416
    @lisaramoutar7416 14 днів тому +1

    Great videos but please speak more slowly.😊

  • @stangchicc
    @stangchicc 11 днів тому +1

    3-4 months? Yeah stay in your lane avoidants. Why should the rest of us wait on y’all while y’all show that y’all don’t care

  • @maxitaxiish
    @maxitaxiish 13 днів тому +2

    God how effing awful. Don’t date them for stability then 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @jazeenharal6013
    @jazeenharal6013 14 днів тому +2

    What is the difference between this and borderline?
    Is it "All borderlines are dismissive-avoidant but not all DA's are Borderline" kinda thing?

    • @ileanaprofeanu7626
      @ileanaprofeanu7626 14 днів тому +2

      not necessarily, you can read the criteria for borderline, there are 10 specific traits that need to be present (or a majority of them) and pervasive, and you can have any insecure attachment style. I was actually a borderline FA

    • @anzelaiv
      @anzelaiv 14 днів тому +4

      Most borderline are fearful avoidant, not dismissive. DAs don't have a strong anxious side and they are comfortable relying on themselves, BPD have a very strong anxious side and can't be on their own.

    • @jazeenharal6013
      @jazeenharal6013 14 днів тому

      @@ileanaprofeanu7626 thank you for your input, I appreciate the clarification. It's been something I've been curious about.
      Good luck in your healing

    • @jazeenharal6013
      @jazeenharal6013 14 днів тому

      @@anzelaiv thanks :)

    • @auemmjee
      @auemmjee 9 днів тому

      Rage, mostly.

  • @svetikchum6988
    @svetikchum6988 13 днів тому +3

    Do you mean why they just poof disappear ?