The revoiced grand pianos in Pianoteq v.7.5 are amazing!

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  • Опубліковано 7 січ 2022
  • philbestmusic.com/ Phil Best highlights the things he's most excited about in this latest incarnation of Modartt's physical modelling software, Pianoteq.

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  • @zumadale
    @zumadale 2 роки тому +30

    I agree 7.5 is a good update. Sampled VSTs hardly ever update anything...take your money and run kind of feeling....Moddart is always refining...which I appreciate!

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +4

      And happily, their tweaks are always positive!

    • @rickyanthony
      @rickyanthony Рік тому

      You have to pay again for the updates right

  • @steve18946
    @steve18946 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks Phil; you got me into pianoteq about 6months ago and I love it. Keep doing what you do; love from sunny Yorkshire.

  • @broken3313
    @broken3313 2 роки тому

    Just bought this yesterday - love it. Thanks for your videos too - really interesting and informative.

  • @NickLeonard
    @NickLeonard 2 роки тому

    Brilliant as always, had fun playing with the new voicing!

  • @markcunningham4319
    @markcunningham4319 Рік тому

    They are amazing !

  •  2 роки тому

    So excited for this!

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      ;-) - I think I say I'm excited 1000000 times!

  • @AlbertKimMusic
    @AlbertKimMusic 2 роки тому

    100% the best piano VST I've heard. My buddy recommended me this a while ago, cinepiano ain't cutting it anymore.

  • @OfficialStevenCravis
    @OfficialStevenCravis 2 роки тому

    Phil, you play incredibly well!

  • @TheIvoryman
    @TheIvoryman 2 роки тому

    Phil, truly enjoy all of your videos. You have a wonderful touch and expressiveness in your playing. In a side by side comparison I heard of Pianoteq 6 & 7, Pianoteq 7 definitely has a more open sound with more life. Pianoteq 6 seems to have a more closed digital quality. I am still hoping that Pianoteq will come to the IOS platform.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much! I wonder if they might be developing mobile versions of Pianoteq...

  • @spastor92
    @spastor92 2 роки тому +6

    I had de same feeling more or less, i updated pianoteq 7.5 with no expectation because it is not a major update (in theory), but i had an instant feeling of wow this feels amazing, almost like a new instrument, very little changes but right on spot.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +2

      I was really pleasantly surprised too!

  • @erikkohl
    @erikkohl 2 роки тому +12

    If anyone had told me I would be bringing in the New Year with a collection of piano's so magnificent, and placed in perfect room's so resonant, that I wouldn't trade any other piano or room in the world for them...I would, of course, have laughed this off as insanely unthinkable. Well, thanks to the guidance and demonstrations from Phil Best, I now have this priceless collection, with a great piano recording studio to boot, for less than it would cost to move a valueless old console piano to my apartment from across town and tune it once! I always hated playing the piano with headphones because all the digital pianos I tried sounded so lifeless...Now, my only problem is that my Pianoteq collection of pianos all sound so lifelike through my open air headphones. I am at times struck with fear that I must have left my monitor speakers on and I am sure my neighbors are about to kill me thinking I have moved a real Steinway grand into my apartment and am playing at concert level with full abandon.
    Just to be clear, I have no connection with Phil, nor with Pianoteq. I am writing this because I do have a profound appreciation for the skills they both have and for the joy their work brings me. I also write this in hopes of helping to inspire others to find their way to exporing what joy might await them in playing these pianos and listening to Phil Best Music.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      I appreciate your comment. Thank you! And I agree... all these pianos!!

    • @AlbertWeijers
      @AlbertWeijers 2 роки тому

      @@PhilBestMusic Hi Phil, love your video's (and Pianoteq by the way). Question, could you do a video about your studio? Or is there one already, couldn't find it. What is that big piano you're playing on for instance?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Thank you! I've never done a video about all the gear in my studio. I think it's a good idea.

    • @erikkohl
      @erikkohl 2 роки тому

      ​@@PhilBestMusic This is something to look forward to...I am especially interested in the headphones you choose to best represent your Pianoteq pianos.

  • @Cefshah
    @Cefshah 2 роки тому +4

    OMG!!! I've had this program since version 'one'... and it is a quantum leap beyond that now!!
    What you say about presence and fullness... rolls right into the 'expressiveness' I can hear as you play it!!
    In the earlier days (even back to V.1), Pianoteq was very good... but I remember it being more bell-like than it is today.
    These days, I'm hearing a darned PIANO, and honestly... I'm amazed to the point of almost being freaked out. LOL!!
    This V7.5 is going to cause me to retire a few of my sample libraries... the expressivity is key with me. I was trained on oboe, and I just fake piano playing. Still, I can play well enough... to feel the potential of the instrument to be expressive and musical.
    This Pianoteq 7.5 sounds SO GOOD!!! 🙂

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +3

      It responds to a free, rhythmic way of playing. That's the most important thing - the source of expressiveness is how we can attack and flow from the body with meaning/feeling. Samples just don't seem to respond to this for me.

    • @Cefshah
      @Cefshah 2 роки тому

      @@PhilBestMusic Well said!! One can dig deeper (expression-wise) with Pianoteq, and that's something I noticed many years ago. That's very important for me.

  • @rovyghany
    @rovyghany 2 роки тому

    Pianoteq keeps getting better within their updates 💯

  • @kbrizy7490
    @kbrizy7490 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, I wasn’t ready when you hit the keys at 2:17 (listening thru headphones and you were in my pocket). INSTANTLY understood what you were saying tho lol

  • @rjw8631
    @rjw8631 2 роки тому +1

    i haven't upgraded to pianoteq 7 yet, but this sounds wonderful. i agree that modartt keeps raising the bar in the digital piano space, and having someone with the musical credentials of phil best in their corner speaks volumes. like the jordan rudesses of the world, he is no cheap shill. well done!

  • @RoBamondeMusic
    @RoBamondeMusic 2 роки тому +4

    Pianoteq 7.5 is the best virtual piano VST on the market for me. I'm waiting for an instrument pack of the Yamaha CFX and C7 pianos.

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 2 роки тому

      I wonder how Hammers & waves compare.

  • @yprawirasoetisna
    @yprawirasoetisna 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the update Phil!!! Does the update covers only the Steinway models? As always, great play!

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Thanks! No it's all the main pianos, I think - Bluethner, Bechsteing, Grotrian etc.

  • @sallywebber6579
    @sallywebber6579 2 роки тому +2

    This update is absolutely amazing. Thank you for your demonstration and beautiful playing Phil. I just wish I could get my Yamaha P515 to interact with Pianoteq like you are able to with the Roland piano.
    Keep posting your marvelous videos,
    Thank you,
    Warmest regards,
    Chris (sigasa)

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Chris!

    • @gregsaddie
      @gregsaddie 2 роки тому

      Chris have you tried any of the velocity curves from users on the pianoteq forum? Just curious

    • @hkooistra3518
      @hkooistra3518 2 роки тому

      I have the P515, had to change velocity curve in PTQ from 127 to about 100 to get the loudest sound. P515 works very well with PTQ in my opinion.

  • @musicmatters1114
    @musicmatters1114 Рік тому +1

    This sounds fantastic! If I may ask, is the sound coming out of the piano's speakers or the speakers against the back wall?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому +1

      We don't need to record Pianoteq using a mic. It's done internally. But personally when I play using Pianoteq, I use a pair of M Audio BX 8 speakers which are behind the piano, not the ones on the back wall - they'd be in the wrong place. I prefer the BX8s to the piano speakers.

  • @davidlai1996
    @davidlai1996 2 роки тому

    These are some impressive updates. If PianoTeq can reduce the nasal quality present from regions around middle C to F2 or thereabout, I think I will be a potential user. But now as things stand, I'm still watching PianoTeq.

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 2 роки тому

    I'll have to update. I combine a Pianoteq voice with the voice from a Yamaha DGX-670. The end result is quite nice. What speakers do you use with your piano? Or is it direct line out? What you played sounds very rich. Warmth is important. Electronic piano voices can be harsh. In ice hockey some people have a very powerful "wrist shot." A wrist shot is different from a slap shot where you wind up and take a big swing.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      It's the internal sound rendered. No mics or lines...

  • @periodinstruments8651
    @periodinstruments8651 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video . You play very well and I also like pianoteq 7.5 a lot . It is definitely one of the top VST . I was wondering if you have tried Garritan CFX ? I m actually stunned by the playability of this VST . In my opinion, it surpasses pianoteq when it comes to trills , repeated notes and fast runs , I have used most of the known VST ( except Ravencroft) but Garritan CFX is exceptional in 2 departments : playability and reverb . I haven’t seen any VST who does it better . The 2 VST that could me goosebumps when I play are pianoteq and Garritan CFX . Recently I used Garritan CFX more , as I ended up having pain in both hands with pianoteq , I can’t explain why , but I suspect it’s due to trying to compensate the software limitations in some technical fast runs . I started to experiments pain symptoms when I used pianoteq 7,5 extensively ,and the pain disappeared when I reverted back to Garritan . I must add that I played piano for more than 20 years , so it’s not a beginner issue. I would be very interested to have your advised opinion on the matter . Cheers

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      Thanks! I'm sure Garritan CFX is great but I'm very happy using Pianoteq - I've always found sampling lacks a certain responsiveness that physical modelling has.

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings 2 роки тому

    I've been a pianoteq user since version 5 or four can't remember
    But I always felt it lacked some presence but perhaps this update solves this problem

  • @matthiaskalt7041
    @matthiaskalt7041 2 роки тому

    Hi Phil - great review, very informative, very „human“ and that is what is all about, no? So far, I liked my D-274 Steinway from VSL best. My chain consists of a new Mac Book Pro, a Universal Audio Twin X Thunderbolt Audio Interface which is feeding a hi end HiFi Stereo Chain (no studio monitors because they are by their „linearity“ requirements often cold and uninspiring). The VSL Steinway lies on an external pci SSD, also connected via TB 3 to the Mac. As a MIDI Controller I have been using a Yamaha CP88 but I am about to buy a new controller as this part of the whole chain is key, obviously when it comes to the experience as a player. I am convinced that the controller must first be sort of „optimized“ for transmitting a maximum of high definition data (MIDI 2.0?) to sound naturally. Second of course it must have the best possible key action, as close as possible to a real grand. I thought about buying a Yamaha NX1 but then I was hesitating again to buy lots of (unused) internal speakers and an instrument not being optimized to transmit third party MIDI data, be it from Pianoteq (which after your review I will definitely consider) or VSL. Maybe a Kawai VPC1 or a Roland A88 MK II (MIDI 2.0) or a Lachnit MK 23 (have you heard about this small Austrian Company?) would be perfect to complete my chain. What are your preferred Controllers? How can a consumer know about the MIDI capabilities of instruments like the NX1 or NV10S or others? And, does it matter anyway? I am convinced that „the perfect digital chain“ with todays technology available outperforms every acoustic instrument in non perfect acoustic environments. (Who has a concert hall at home to make a real D-274 really shine?) I wonder what you think about these thoughts …

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Hi Matthias, Thanks for your kind comments! Much appreciated. Sorry to disappoint with my reply but I'm a musician and teacher, not a gear reviewer. So I just talk about what I use myself and enthuse about it a lot when I love it as much as I do Pianoteq. And I haven't tried all the keyboards or software pianos out there (there are so many of them). I just have loads of fun with the Roland PHA50 action (HP605 in this video) which feels like a Steinway to me. And I just adore Pianoteq. Once I find what I like this much, I stop exploring much. I really love the variety of pianos I have in my Pianoteq Studio Bundle. And I enjoy the sound of my M-Audio BX8s - clear and deep!

  • @yvesthevenon5099
    @yvesthevenon5099 2 роки тому

    I love Pianoteq and I love all your videos about it... I can see you are using IEM (witch one ?), is there a big difference with headphones ? (I use open HD540) And do you use binaural setting in this case ? What is minimum price for IEM good for pianoteq ? Thank you...

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Thanks! My IEMs are Shure 535s. I like them, once they're seated right the sound is full and present. And yes, the binaural setting is ideal.

  • @studiosnch
    @studiosnch 2 роки тому +1

    All the main pianos had improvements - for me the Ant. Petrof and Blüthner had the most improvement. Even the Kremsegg C. Bechstein sounds even better in 7.5.2 as well.

  • @moontan91
    @moontan91 2 роки тому

    if i had to chose one acoustic piano that could be the most versatile, which one would it be?
    i will probably chose the Rhodes emulation as my second choice for the Stage version.
    edit: i think i might go for the Bechstein.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      Bechstein is very nice. Steinway's my personal favourite but they're all great.

    • @moontan91
      @moontan91 2 роки тому

      @@PhilBestMusic it is indeed quite lovely (the Steinway).
      i am still evaluating...
      thanks for the review, and the music ! : )

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      My pleasure!

  • @robshrock-shirakbari1862
    @robshrock-shirakbari1862 2 роки тому

    Did you struggle to refine your velocity curve for your controller/touch... and do you muck about with it still? Or was it easy-going and you leave it alone now?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      I'm very happy with the velocity default setting but I do like the way different curves can mimic how different pianos respond in the real world. As long as its not too crazy, I can happily play with almost any velocity curve.

  • @martinnolin2315
    @martinnolin2315 Рік тому

    If you play Pianoteq, it's a so good idea to use a touch-sensitive MIDI-keyboard to play it!

  • @MarianoPerez
    @MarianoPerez 2 роки тому +1

    I've been thinking of getting a kawai nv10, but vids like these make me think I should just get a decent action, software, and good speakers.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +2

      That's my thinking for sure. The price of those kinds of DPs seems very high to me. If I had the space, I'd possibly get a Yamaha silent grand...

    • @MarianoPerez
      @MarianoPerez 2 роки тому

      @@PhilBestMusic what piano, or digital piano are you using to drive pianoteq?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Here, it's a Roland HP605.

  • @jimj.9291
    @jimj.9291 Рік тому

    Phil, how would you compare Pteq 8 to the native Roland modeled sound of your HP piano? Do you have a preference? And, can pianoteq be used on an external drive so it can be hooked to different laptops?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      I much prefer Pianoteq's pianos to the ones inside my my Roland HP605! They are richer and more immersive. Roland ones are good though... Pianoteq is small after installation so a portable installation isn't necessary.

    • @jimj.9291
      @jimj.9291 Рік тому

      @@PhilBestMusic Thank you, Phil!

  • @DonswatchingtheTube
    @DonswatchingtheTube 2 роки тому

    Like the Spider-Man look. 😊

  • @jsanchezguerra
    @jsanchezguerra 9 місяців тому

    Hi Phil, which are the 4 best grand piano pack for you in Pianoteq ? Thanks

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  9 місяців тому

      Purely subjective taste but if I had to choose only 4 pianos, it would be the Steinway D, Bluethner, Bechstein and probably actually the U4 (not a grand but I like it).

  • @PeterWalkerHP16c
    @PeterWalkerHP16c 2 роки тому +1

    After getting Pianoteq 5 I realised I wasted my money on the sampled libraries and other piano plugs.
    I can run 6.x on a 2009 win 7 32bit PC and it doesn't miss a trick. Same with 7.x on the 2012 Mac Mini.
    48k through the Sonar VS700R into amped monitors with a GHA keybed and I'm in the Steinway selection room.!!!!!!
    I rarely use any other libraries anymore.

  • @zumadale
    @zumadale Рік тому

    When will version 8 be released??? Anyone know?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      It must be quite soon, right?

    • @zumadale
      @zumadale Рік тому

      @@PhilBestMusic I'm waiting...my guess the later part of this month. There's not as much money in releasing 7.8.0 as there would be in a major release.

  • @marthareilly5134
    @marthareilly5134 2 роки тому

    Please share what the name of the last piece you played is. Thanks!

  • @vvlg214
    @vvlg214 2 роки тому

    9:16 Can you tell me the name of the song? Its wonderful.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      I just made it up on the spot. Glad you liked it though!

  • @t04v7
    @t04v7 2 роки тому

    Is your piano an AvantGrand? I noticed you had the V-piano before this one showed up in your videos.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому +1

      The V-Piano is still there at the back of my studio - going strong. The piano I'm playing here is a Roland HP605.

    • @t04v7
      @t04v7 2 роки тому

      @@PhilBestMusic - Cool. Reason I was asking is because I usually find the AvantGrand to be sluggish without additional regulation work. I’m impressed with the articulation you’re getting out of it. I’m guessing the 605 has an improved action from the V. I owned a V for a while… great for studio work and live performances in terms of sound… definitely innovative when it first came out… but didn’t find the action was great for practicing. I went from that to a Baldwin L… and now I have a Kawai MP. Pretty happy with it but would like to compare to VPC-1.
      Appreciate all your videos. You’re definitely on the cutting edge of what’s possible with digital piano tech and midi. I’m working on building a setup very similar to yours that addresses my various demands with composing / arranging, practicing serious repertoire, recording, etc. It’s finally getting easier to meet most needs in one package.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      I do still like my V-Piano. But yes, Roland's PHA50 is my current favourite action of any DP I've tried (I can't say I've tried them all!).

  • @jeromejamies3641
    @jeromejamies3641 Рік тому

    I am going to pass version 8, seems to be too little improvement to make me spend money and I am not into guitar software instruments. Very nice video

  • @ronaldcoleman9370
    @ronaldcoleman9370 Рік тому

    Does the standard version get the 7.5 revoice?

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      I think so! But I use the Pro Studio Bundle so I can't advise from personal experience.

  • @BrianAnother
    @BrianAnother 2 роки тому

    Which pianoteq piano is used in the video?

  • @berndstrobl826
    @berndstrobl826 2 роки тому

    What piano "controller" are you playing?

  • @maryannebrule-salahari4784
    @maryannebrule-salahari4784 Рік тому

    How do you update to 7.5???

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      If you have v7, you just log into the Modartt website and download it, I think.

  • @batner
    @batner 2 роки тому +3

    Actually I would want to hear it from the position of the player.
    All Digital pianos have a problem of having a weaker computer, less RAM and ROM than your PC and eventually VSTs become noticably better that the built-in synth/sampler of even the most expensive DPs. I have never heard of any DP manufacturer who produced an upgrade to the computer inside. So eventually I will have to move to VSTs.

  • @luigi95-
    @luigi95- 2 роки тому

    What midi keyboard he is playing?!?

  • @ainolinternational
    @ainolinternational 2 роки тому

    can you share your settings plz plz plz plz plz

  • @zumadale
    @zumadale 2 роки тому

    Side note....I play along with recordings...pretty much exclusively now using Chord AI app....I always try to use the Steinway pianos but I get much better results using European pianos...like Ant Petrof or Bluthner. For some weird reason the Steinway is not fitting in. I play along with Carol King ... Badfinger....Beatles....its almost like the tuning isnt right??

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      That's interesting - I wonder what that's about.

  • @jesussaddle
    @jesussaddle Рік тому

    Darn it Phil. You didn't say which pianos you were playing :D (silly me, I literally started jumping around trying to find it (if you did say it somewhere, I apologize, but I came to hear an update of your last video where you play a whole set of different Pianoteq Pianos - I always come to your page before I buy one of their piano expansions, which I know is not the purpose of this video but... ) :D

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому +1

      Surely I say which one I'm about to play... no? Unless this one was all on one piano...

    • @jesussaddle
      @jesussaddle Рік тому

      @@PhilBestMusic It sounded like it could be :D

  • @LuPianoMusic
    @LuPianoMusic Рік тому

    6:40 - Rachmaninoff - Concerto no 2, movement 2

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  Рік тому

      Close! It's the 3rd Concerto, 2nd movement.

  • @zeppy13131
    @zeppy13131 2 роки тому

    I honestly don't understand all the hype about this. It's quite impressive what they've done, considering it's entirely modeled rather than relying on samples. But I've tried the demo, and tried the various tweaks people recommended, and it's not nearly as real-sounding, responsive, or musically satisfying as the sounds built into my Roland FP-30. Maybe this is like comparing apples and oranges. I don't know-I'm not a programmer or an electronics technician, just a musician. Really, though, there's no comparison, in my experience.

    • @PhilBestMusic
      @PhilBestMusic  2 роки тому

      Well these things are subjective and you're entitled to your opinion. I'm just sharing my honest feelings (and music) - no hype! I'm a musician and teacher not a reviewer and I don't work for Modartt. Personally, I love Pianoteq - it feels great to play - much nicer than an FP30!

  • @utubewillyman
    @utubewillyman Рік тому

    You must be using an advance copy of 7.6, because when I play 7.5 it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as you! ;)