Very sorry you've had to suffer this kind of treatment, Phil. It must be very dispiriting. I wish you every success in getting these companies to see what an inexplicable and damaging mistake they are making
Phil, I hope you don't let this get you down. You are a true artist and very gifted, and much appreciated by your audience. The corporatocracy that many of us live in must be pushed back against or they will stifle everything creative and beautiful with their quest for power and profit.
Thank you so much! Well, the way human society is plagued by destructive, exploitative, ruthless behaviour gets me down at times - I've lived with the fantasy of going off grid in the back of my mind for years. But ultimately, I do what I do for love more than anything else. So that keeps me connected to the world!
Sorry to hear that. This happened a lot to many recently. As I already commented elsewhere, this has EVERYTHING to do with YT's crappy way of dealing with copyright. They do not require evidence from the claimant of holding any rights, and they even grant them the power of deciding over our disputes. This has been going on for too many years. If that's not madness, I don't know what is. I could have claimed that video, for that matter. Either we all unite and speak out, and do something, or this goes on forever.
I don't remember if it was live, but it was surely public domain pieces played by the channel owner, not commercial recordings. I'll have to look into my history. I'll get back to you soon.@@PhilBestMusic
@@PhilBestMusic it happened to me several times, this is why I deleted everything I had on YT besides one horrible performance. You might remember that I told you to quit YT back in 2020... more details in a dedicated comment
@@PhilBestMusic Rick Beato is the expert on this matter, he has made films about it, and either has already or soon will be speaking in Congress about AI copyright.
The reason you are getting copyright strikes for playing public domain works is that, even though there is no longer any copyright on the music score, any modern performance of same can be copyrighted. That is referred to as a mechanical copyright. The algorithms used by YT are not sophisticated enough to distinguish one performance of the work from any other. Your only option is to challenge the strike and be explicit that the performance is yours alone and not that of a contemporary artist playing the same piece and hope that your explanation is accepted (good luck with that). I ran into a similar problem some years ago when I posted audio restorations of 78 rpm records (on which the mechanical copyright had expired). I was challenged on those. Apparently, some company had their own commercial restorations of the same original recordings and the algorithm notified them of my posting. I was able to have the posting accepted but the hassle was so great that I stopped posting audio only performances on YT and just went to SoundCloud. I haven't had any such problems on that platform but I realize that doesn't help you. Have you considered writing a letter to the CEO of the offending company and explaining how abusive their actions are?
I know how the mechanical rights confusion can be used for obfuscation of the actual legal position , but legally, the rights to my recording and performance are 100% my own!
@@PhilBestMusic Well, of course, I never implied otherwise. That isn't the issue. The issue is trying to convince a deaf ear of that fact. There really isn't any confusion about a mechanical copyright. It either exists or it doesn't. In my previous comment I neglected to mention that, when I was making appeals against similar bogus claims on YT, I also noted that, not only was my posting not violating anyone's copyright, that falsely claiming any such infringement could be interpreted as fraud in a court of law.
Since fraudulent copyright claims seem to be proliferating and UA-cam doesn't want to know or care enough to protect their content creators maybe it's time for a UA-cam creators Union to bring lawsuits against the organisations making bogus claims. Unity is strength and if you guys don't fight for your rights you will lose them.
This is very wrong indeed. Very sorry you have to deal with this. I value your playing and insights greatly. Realistically most music UA-camrs get this kind of ludicrous strikes. But it's wrong, it's an outrage. But do keep at it! It's your and our passion!
I, for one, truly appreciate your presence on YoutTube. Your music is truly beautiful and your well-grounded approach is refreshing. If UA-cam doesn't work out for you, I will gladly watch your videos elsewhere. Thank you for what you do.
Sorry to hear that your videos/performances doesn't deserve this I'm also wondering why they did this to you since your performances are very original by the way the only way is to speak up and to defend that you haven't done any of illegal copyright claim issues I hope this issue will end and keep up the good work sir
Thanks very much! The system has gone haywire, it seems! You're quite right, all we can do is find the courage to use our voices. It's a noisy world out there though!
I feel with you, it's ridiculous that somebody claims to own musical heritage... it's almost like claiming to own the rights on the english language. I watched the video and liked it, found it a sweet idea. Keep on but yea probably not with classical pieces your music is worth it aswell :)
Thanks! But to be clear, they're not claiming to own the music itself (they couldn't!). They're claiming to own the performance and recording rights, or more specifically claiming that the recording and performance were not done by me but by an artist that they represent. They're claiming I've used a recording! That's why I mentioned finger-syncing!! It's truly hilarious - almost!. I will definitely keep on recording classical music.
Oh yes I got it, but to me this seems just like a way to bypass that they can't own the rights on the music. So they make it own the rights on the performance, which is kind of the same in my humble view. :)
They do own the rights for a performance and recording of this piece - and that's right and proper. But they do not own the rights to MY recording and performance! When you perform and/or record music by a living composer, there are royalties due to you for the work of creating the performance and producing the recording, and separately also to the composer for their work of creating the composition. This is how it should be! People should all be paid and acknowledged for their work. The composer's rights are not part of my particular issue because Debussy's rights expired a while ago!
@@PhilBestMusic haha Phil yes yes I got it, don't wanna turn this into an argument. Just for the fun of explaining ourselves to each other let me elaborate a bit further since I haven't seemed to make my point properly clear. What I meant is, there are historical artists who can not be exploited officially by companies anymore because they are long long dead and gone and their music turned into a public good. Yet there are they who find a way around it by claiming particular performance rights. It's kind of like if you own the rights to debussy. Since they don't really compare the performance, they just go around and piss at everybody who plays this piece by debussy. Therefore it's a workaround not being able to claim rights for the music of debussy. I so to say zoomed out and didn't look at your particular case anymore but the system behind it. Okay I hope I made myself clear, in any case, case closed. All the best :-)
How do we align ourselves? With the side who's agenda is totalitarian, global, corporate government - or the side who supports individual freedoms and sovereign nations? This sounds silly when talking about music, but it's coming at us from ALL angles. This is a small taste of what is to come if the WEF and WHO get their way. When wrong think, wrong speak, and "wrong music" become a part of our daily lives. Let's all think about that next time we vote and/or protest.
@@PhilBestMusicthe clear solution is heavy penalties for false claims. The recording industry lobby is not in favour of that unfortunately. Love your channel. Thanks for your incredibly inspiring playing and videos!
Thanks so much! I agree completely - false claims should have consequences. Lets keep hoping that some sense will prevail -no this issue and so many much graver issues in the world, eh?!
@@PhilBestMusic Yes, and we begin to realize this most profoundly when it begins to affect us personally. Keep on bringing beautiful music into this troubled world! 🙂❤🎹🎶
Really sorry to hear you’ve also become a victim of this automated bullying. It seems that pretty much everybody who does enough streaming has to deal with it :-/
Hi Phil. The UA-cam algorithm brought me here, but I'm reserving my seat by choice. That's a really fucked up thing. I saw on Instagram fairly recently that pianist Maya Purdue had the same issue (can't recall if she received the claim on YT or Meta, but it really doesn't matter). Have you ever tried disputing the copyright claim? And if you have, what has happened?
Thank you! This has happened to me numerous times now. I disputed all the claims and they were subsequently dropped. This time, Believe Music responded to my dispute by saying that their claim is valid. Insane! So I deleted the video and decided to tell the story.
I don't know. A machine could easily tell the difference between my performance and the one they claim it to be. The digital information would be entirely different!
@@PhilBestMusic so some lackey searches by text for performances of all their recordings? In that Halloween video you didn't list all the pieces, did you?
Oh I usually know which recording/performance they claim I've used in the video, as it's stated in the claim and so it's easy enough to find. That's what makes it all so utterly bizarre. It's kind of amazing! They're accusing me of using a performance that sounds nothing like mine both musically and production-wise And yet, they shamelessly make the claim. I mean... No words... This is the world we live in though, as we often discuss, right? Truth is no longer relevant, it seems!
I am a music hobbist and have my own instrument which I improvised over backing tracks. I got one strike. UTB sent the link to me which their algorithms found. The music was written by a artist who sold his song to APPLE who trademarked it to one of their Video Editing Apps. Unknown to me. So, I am writing my own music, now. I feel like a real winner🎉❤❤ The corporation do just as the name implies.-Incorporate- Grab all the music, Put it all in their envelope ✉️ and claim it . With the intro of synth, I worried then what would happen to musicians. So, it has all boiled down to this.😢...... Has anyone been duked by the BandLab, n-tracks, Spotify, etc. Are they grabbing song artists' music scores, too. You know they have producers partners.
This is very disappointing. Your take on music is wonderful and I love your videos. It's a shame that you have to stand up to the google giant, it's just an unwelcome distraction from what we all know you want to do.
As if you would go through the trouble of finger syncing someone else's performance when you can do a much better one! Honest it's just hilarious when you think about it!
Play only your own music.Your improvisation are just unbelivable. You are a great sources of inspiration. Thank you !
Thanks - I appreciate that!
I keep hearing crazy stories about copyright claims on UA-cam, but this might be the craziest. Wow.
I know! It's twilight zone stuff!
Very sorry you've had to suffer this kind of treatment, Phil. It must be very dispiriting. I wish you every success in getting these companies to see what an inexplicable and damaging mistake they are making
Thanks! It's frustrating but I'm not daunted. I'll keep recording Chopin, Mozart, Bach, Faure and all the others as is my right!
So sorry you've had this trouble. We love your videos, as you probably realise, and are very disappointed that you have been treated this way.
Thank you so much!
Phil, I hope you don't let this get you down. You are a true artist and very gifted, and much appreciated by your audience. The corporatocracy that many of us live in must be pushed back against or they will stifle everything creative and beautiful with their quest for power and profit.
Thank you so much! Well, the way human society is plagued by destructive, exploitative, ruthless behaviour gets me down at times - I've lived with the fantasy of going off grid in the back of my mind for years. But ultimately, I do what I do for love more than anything else. So that keeps me connected to the world!
This is crazy. I'm sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear that.
This happened a lot to many recently. As I already commented elsewhere, this has EVERYTHING to do with YT's crappy way of dealing with copyright. They do not require evidence from the claimant of holding any rights, and they even grant them the power of deciding over our disputes. This has been going on for too many years. If that's not madness, I don't know what is. I could have claimed that video, for that matter.
Either we all unite and speak out, and do something, or this goes on forever.
I've not heard of anyone whose own live performances have been claimed against. Do you know of anyone? I'd love to contact them!
I don't remember if it was live, but it was surely public domain pieces played by the channel owner, not commercial recordings. I'll have to look into my history. I'll get back to you soon.@@PhilBestMusic
Thanks so much!
@@PhilBestMusic it happened to me several times, this is why I deleted everything I had on YT besides one horrible performance. You might remember that I told you to quit YT back in 2020... more details in a dedicated comment
@@PhilBestMusic Rick Beato is the expert on this matter, he has made films about it, and either has already or soon will be speaking in Congress about AI copyright.
The reason you are getting copyright strikes for playing public domain works is that, even though there is no longer any copyright on the music score, any modern performance of same can be copyrighted. That is referred to as a mechanical copyright. The algorithms used by YT are not sophisticated enough to distinguish one performance of the work from any other. Your only option is to challenge the strike and be explicit that the performance is yours alone and not that of a contemporary artist playing the same piece and hope that your explanation is accepted (good luck with that). I ran into a similar problem some years ago when I posted audio restorations of 78 rpm records (on which the mechanical copyright had expired). I was challenged on those. Apparently, some company had their own commercial restorations of the same original recordings and the algorithm notified them of my posting. I was able to have the posting accepted but the hassle was so great that I stopped posting audio only performances on YT and just went to SoundCloud. I haven't had any such problems on that platform but I realize that doesn't help you. Have you considered writing a letter to the CEO of the offending company and explaining how abusive their actions are?
I know how the mechanical rights confusion can be used for obfuscation of the actual legal position , but legally, the rights to my recording and performance are 100% my own!
@@PhilBestMusic Well, of course, I never implied otherwise. That isn't the issue. The issue is trying to convince a deaf ear of that fact. There really isn't any confusion about a mechanical copyright. It either exists or it doesn't. In my previous comment I neglected to mention that, when I was making appeals against similar bogus claims on YT, I also noted that, not only was my posting not violating anyone's copyright, that falsely claiming any such infringement could be interpreted as fraud in a court of law.
Since fraudulent copyright claims seem to be proliferating and UA-cam doesn't want to know or care enough to protect their content creators maybe it's time for a UA-cam creators Union to bring lawsuits against the organisations making bogus claims. Unity is strength and if you guys don't fight for your rights you will lose them.
That's a good idea!
This is very wrong indeed. Very sorry you have to deal with this. I value your playing and insights greatly. Realistically most music UA-camrs get this kind of ludicrous strikes. But it's wrong, it's an outrage. But do keep at it! It's your and our passion!
I will! Thanks for the encouragement!
I, for one, truly appreciate your presence on YoutTube. Your music is truly beautiful and your well-grounded approach is refreshing. If UA-cam doesn't work out for you, I will gladly watch your videos elsewhere. Thank you for what you do.
Thanks you for saying that! It means a lot! I'm sticking around for the moment. Mostly, it's a positive experience on here!
Sorry to hear that
your videos/performances doesn't deserve this
I'm also wondering why they did this to you since your performances are very original
by the way the only way is to speak up and to defend that you haven't done any of illegal copyright claim issues
I hope this issue will end
and keep up the good work sir
Thanks very much! The system has gone haywire, it seems! You're quite right, all we can do is find the courage to use our voices. It's a noisy world out there though!
Keep posting and don't quit
No, never!
I feel with you, it's ridiculous that somebody claims to own musical heritage... it's almost like claiming to own the rights on the english language. I watched the video and liked it, found it a sweet idea. Keep on but yea probably not with classical pieces your music is worth it aswell :)
Thanks! But to be clear, they're not claiming to own the music itself (they couldn't!). They're claiming to own the performance and recording rights, or more specifically claiming that the recording and performance were not done by me but by an artist that they represent. They're claiming I've used a recording! That's why I mentioned finger-syncing!! It's truly hilarious - almost!. I will definitely keep on recording classical music.
Oh yes I got it, but to me this seems just like a way to bypass that they can't own the rights on the music. So they make it own the rights on the performance, which is kind of the same in my humble view. :)
They do own the rights for a performance and recording of this piece - and that's right and proper. But they do not own the rights to MY recording and performance! When you perform and/or record music by a living composer, there are royalties due to you for the work of creating the performance and producing the recording, and separately also to the composer for their work of creating the composition. This is how it should be! People should all be paid and acknowledged for their work. The composer's rights are not part of my particular issue because Debussy's rights expired a while ago!
@@PhilBestMusicas if you would ever need to do such a thing. Honestly this is just ridiculous.
@@PhilBestMusic haha Phil yes yes I got it, don't wanna turn this into an argument. Just for the fun of explaining ourselves to each other let me elaborate a bit further since I haven't seemed to make my point properly clear. What I meant is, there are historical artists who can not be exploited officially by companies anymore because they are long long dead and gone and their music turned into a public good. Yet there are they who find a way around it by claiming particular performance rights. It's kind of like if you own the rights to debussy. Since they don't really compare the performance, they just go around and piss at everybody who plays this piece by debussy. Therefore it's a workaround not being able to claim rights for the music of debussy. I so to say zoomed out and didn't look at your particular case anymore but the system behind it. Okay I hope I made myself clear, in any case, case closed. All the best :-)
How do we align ourselves? With the side who's agenda is totalitarian, global, corporate government - or the side who supports individual freedoms and sovereign nations? This sounds silly when talking about music, but it's coming at us from ALL angles. This is a small taste of what is to come if the WEF and WHO get their way. When wrong think, wrong speak, and "wrong music" become a part of our daily lives. Let's all think about that next time we vote and/or protest.
The current situation in the world is so crazy - divisive and polarising! I wish there was a clear solution!
@@PhilBestMusicthe clear solution is heavy penalties for false claims. The recording industry lobby is not in favour of that unfortunately. Love your channel. Thanks for your incredibly inspiring playing and videos!
Thanks so much! I agree completely - false claims should have consequences. Lets keep hoping that some sense will prevail -no this issue and so many much graver issues in the world, eh?!
@@PhilBestMusic Yes, and we begin to realize this most profoundly when it begins to affect us personally. Keep on bringing beautiful music into this troubled world! 🙂❤🎹🎶
Thank you! I will.
Really sorry to hear you’ve also become a victim of this automated bullying. It seems that pretty much everybody who does enough streaming has to deal with it :-/
Thanks! I know it's crazy!
Hi Phil. The UA-cam algorithm brought me here, but I'm reserving my seat by choice. That's a really fucked up thing. I saw on Instagram fairly recently that pianist Maya Purdue had the same issue (can't recall if she received the claim on YT or Meta, but it really doesn't matter). Have you ever tried disputing the copyright claim? And if you have, what has happened?
Thank you! This has happened to me numerous times now. I disputed all the claims and they were subsequently dropped. This time, Believe Music responded to my dispute by saying that their claim is valid. Insane! So I deleted the video and decided to tell the story.
@@PhilBestMusic Believe the distributor? That is fucking absurd...
Yep!
Give us a call to action... let us know how we can add to the complaint.
Your brother down in SE5,
Rob
Thanks! Right now I'm not sure if there's anything to be done, except this - shout a bit about it I really appreciate the support.
Oh and maybe to spread the story a bit wider... All ideas welcome!
Very good to talk about.
It's a strange world! ;-)
Unfortunately, this isn't new, and is apparently growing...
Very true!
That's criminal!! When you dispute is there a human being talking to you? Is it bad AI comparing performances?
I don't know. A machine could easily tell the difference between my performance and the one they claim it to be. The digital information would be entirely different!
@@PhilBestMusic so some lackey searches by text for performances of all their recordings? In that Halloween video you didn't list all the pieces, did you?
Oh I usually know which recording/performance they claim I've used in the video, as it's stated in the claim and so it's easy enough to find. That's what makes it all so utterly bizarre. It's kind of amazing! They're accusing me of using a performance that sounds nothing like mine both musically and production-wise And yet, they shamelessly make the claim. I mean... No words... This is the world we live in though, as we often discuss, right? Truth is no longer relevant, it seems!
@@PhilBestMusic but how do they find your short performance in the middle of a video that doesn't name the pieces in text?
@@PhilBestMusic There is no human *EVER*, see my other comment about it
I am a music hobbist and have my own instrument which I improvised over backing tracks. I got one strike. UTB sent the link to me which their algorithms found. The music was written by a artist who sold his song to APPLE who trademarked it to one of their Video Editing Apps. Unknown to me. So, I am writing my own music, now.
I feel like a real winner🎉❤❤
The corporation do just as the name implies.-Incorporate- Grab all the music, Put it all in their envelope ✉️ and claim it .
With the intro of synth, I worried then what would happen to musicians.
So, it has all boiled down to this.😢......
Has anyone been duked by the BandLab, n-tracks, Spotify, etc. Are they grabbing song artists' music scores, too. You know they have producers partners.
Yes, we've just got to keep creating...
Awesome !
Believe music is a copyright troll company. They have been sued for copyright violations of their own.
This is very disappointing. Your take on music is wonderful and I love your videos. It's a shame that you have to stand up to the google giant, it's just an unwelcome distraction from what we all know you want to do.
Thanks so much! Sorry for my late response - your comment must have been invisible in UA-cam Studio for some reason.
As if you would go through the trouble of finger syncing someone else's performance when you can do a much better one! Honest it's just hilarious when you think about it!
It's the only explanation I could think of! 🤪