I wonder if the editing will hide how bad I am at eidolons 😬 Btw should mention, if you dont have a riven but want to use secondary outburst, i highly recommend slotting hornet strike instead of anemic agility for the extra damage. Otherwise you might find it kinda lacking
for the outburst, I know that crescendo is key. But other than Vazarin which I use and Ash which I don't like using, how else can I stack crescendo fast? I main Revenant for cascade caps these days since SG has taken a toll on my fingers with all the try-hard-never-die gameplay.
@@HeeHee9000i highly highly recommend the rauta since i feel you on not liking ash or vazarin. You’re not gonna find a much better primary IMO since you’re doing p much all of your damage with dual tox. If you’re worried abt acolyte performance you can run magistar or something and still have the exact same buff from outburst.
Nice video. I subbed too. I really like this weapon but I just got the Prisma Angstrum and it's nuts too with its multiCO. It can keep up with the dual toxs and feels satisfying to use. :)
Nice video! If you want to test strong stuff in the simulacrum I would recommend getting either gokstad officers (found on grineer railjack crewships) or even better manic bombard (eximus) (found on uranus sabotage) as they have significantly higher HP than corrupted heavy gunners. For example a lvl 200 manic bombard has as much HP as a lvl 900 corrupted heavy gunner. For the in mission showcase I think level cap enemies are the best to show off weapons on as archons, liches, acolytes and to some extent demolishers have damage attenuation that can have varying effects on the DPS of a weapon and that pretty much only shows how good a weapon is against that exact damage attenuation. Great video tho! Dual Toxocyst might very well be the strongest gun incarnon although not as comfortable to play as it is very headshot reliant.
Good stuff, I actually saw that exo gokstad officers had the highest ehp but it was an old post and I wasn't sure. Thanks for the info! Although I tested it on enemies with attenuation to show how flexible the weapon is. I didn't use them in the lex video, for example.
Agreed! For a video like this I probably should have made a script 😂but I wonder if you guys appreciate the "real" approach with the simpler videos like the next one im planning on making. Feedback is much appreciated!
Holy shit, man. I'm shocked by the numbers in the video. Especially the red critical numbers)) Can you show your Operator and the build for it in the next video? Thanks for your work!
It's just a 177 amp with eternal eradicate and eternal onslaught, a very useful arcane on the operator itself is emergence savior as that can buy you some time to kill the thrax!
For the exilus slot, you need silent battery if you are running invisibility frames like ash and ivara. Its mandatory, the rest doesn't add anything of value.
I feel like 'level cap' is pointless because everyone and their grandma has used like, the mk1 braton in level cap. It's not really a test that is as appealing as it was before. Maybe something more accurate would be straight up kill rates or something.
Its funny because i was reading another comment that said the opposite lol! Thats why i included as many enemy types as I could. The kpm on this weapon is great though.
def make a vid for sicarus incarn when it comes back for the people who haven’t used it i have been and honestly its a bit better than dual tox with crit direct dmg for disruption level cap it also hits tier 2 reds without a riv and no topaz shards
thx for the build wantet to get the incarnon for a cuple week and now i dont have to worry. I wanted to use it witout knowing it has a incarnon because i rolled a very good riven .
Only one combination dishes out more dmg than secondary outburst, that’s Galvanized Shot (GS) and Secondary Encumber. Dual Tox has so much multi shot built into the incarnon that you’ll be proc’ing every status and their mother on enemies just as fast as Diraga on top of getting 120% base dmg per element at x3 stacks of GS. I find secondary outburst to be less superior due to the combo management and basically requiring crescendo to make it work without using Routa. And if you’re playing cascade you’re using Madurai 100% of time and not Vazerin.
Unless you are not building any elements on your weapon, companions or frame, encumbered isn’t going to be as good as you thought. Especially with how fast this gun kills and the fact that gunco ignores incarnon evolution damage
@ gun co doesn’t work on incarnon damage that has aoe. That isn’t the case for toxocyst’s since it’s incarnon dmg is hitscan therefore takes full advantage of it. Things like burston or latron or angstrum wouldn’t work because they have aoe. Edit: also in the wiki galvanized shot also affects the damage of the ricochet bullets so yeah, it is stronger than YOU think.
@@iamzer0938 learn how to read. I said gun co ignores added base damage from incarnon evolution not gun co doesn’t work on the incarnon transformation. Two completely different things lol
@@rayzhang7591 maybe you should learn to formulate your arguments. Because you said “gunco ignores incarnon evolution damage” then you said “ignores incarnon evolution BASE damage” those are in fact two completely different things. To put it into your own words LOL especially since this weapon has its own CO evolution tree but I digress. Regardless that +50 extra base damage is entirely minuscule. It can be neglected because of the amount of multishot this particular weapon gets, and you’re always getting a headshot multiplier when shooting into a group of ads so long as one of them is getting pelted in the face. As long as you hit one in the head the ricochet bullets attract to head of the next closest target to the head.
I remember before I had dual toxo my friend and I were 2 manning an eidolon hunt and he was eviscerating the joints with them, I thought he was full of shit until I got them and did it too. xd
I have pistol amp, which im assuming changes the final damage on the build. It doesn't matter too much since a fat chunk of the damage is from crits. That build should perform just fine without pistol amp, but make sure you have arcane precision IF you aren't running hornet strike or a damage arcane (so, not secondary outburst or fortifier).
I mean, damage wise yes. But usability is a no. The reason why torid is deemed as the best isnt because of the damage, or the chaining. Its how easy it is to charge and use. No headshots needed. Toxocysts are so headshot reliant that it makes it more stressful than fun to use. Not to mention the downtime.
If you find the headshot necessity stressful, then yea I'd understand why you wouldn't use it. However, in the case where you're comfortable with the headshots (me personally I am) it's very, very strong, and more enjoyable to use than the torid. Also not having to play 100% braindead helps especially when going to level cap with rev
i’m sorry to say but this, and i really hate hate saying this but, this is definitely a skill issue moment. Sure the head shots can be annoying but the meter charges so fast and even the body shots ricochet to the heads of other enemies even without aiming for the head. It’s so easy to get head shots usability really isn’t a issue here.
@@Chia_42 you say this as if im not aware. And just because i say its headshot reliant, it doesnt mean i cant land headshots. But to rate a weapon as THE best, you have to take other factors into consideration. If the torid has 30 ammo in it’s incarnon, itll be a whole different story too. Because its not COMFORTABLE. Is it usable with skill? Yes. It is. The dual tox are my second most used weapon. Im just being real here. Doesnt mean im incapable.
@ so if the dual tox is ur 2nd most used weapon what are you blabbering on about. Even with taking into consideration all the pros and cons of the weapons the community signifies it as one of the best in the game. It’s super comfy to use lol.
I have a similar build but without primed heated charge. In place of that is hornet strike. If I were to replace it for primed heated charge how would it improve my build?
probably not much, the heat procs from the dual tox arent much. I use it primarily for the shards but also for the increase in base damage bc its a primed mod
Crit damage? yes, very. Crit chance is also solid but not quite amazing (don't get me wrong that's still a 100% slottable riven and you should use it), but keep rolling and see if you can get something better!
remove the fire, the place for it is the frostbite fire mod it is useless here are you kidding corrosion + fire xd read carefully what the fire effect gives it gives what corrosion gives only 50% and corrosion gives 80% so the fire is useless here I don't know why you put it there
Hey! Because I'm using 5 topaz shards, I need to use a heat mod. Otherwise, they won't proc lol. Also it's a primed mod, like primed convulsion, so it increases my base damage and makes the critical multiplier more effective. Hope this helped!
I wonder if the editing will hide how bad I am at eidolons 😬
Btw should mention, if you dont have a riven but want to use secondary outburst, i highly recommend slotting hornet strike instead of anemic agility for the extra damage. Otherwise you might find it kinda lacking
for the outburst, I know that crescendo is key. But other than Vazarin which I use and Ash which I don't like using, how else can I stack crescendo fast? I main Revenant for cascade caps these days since SG has taken a toll on my fingers with all the try-hard-never-die gameplay.
@@HeeHee9000 i think sling stun from naramon opens them up for finisher. dizzying rounds for bronco also does
@@HeeHee9000i highly highly recommend the rauta since i feel you on not liking ash or vazarin. You’re not gonna find a much better primary IMO since you’re doing p much all of your damage with dual tox. If you’re worried abt acolyte performance you can run magistar or something and still have the exact same buff from outburst.
Go for magnetic against arcon hunts its much more damage.
"I would use prime sure footed"
*flashes a picture of Knightmareframe*
I FUCKING DIED LMAO
like the content and your voice aint attacking me thru my speakers 10/10 subbbed and liked perfect presentation imo
Nice video. I subbed too. I really like this weapon but I just got the Prisma Angstrum and it's nuts too with its multiCO. It can keep up with the dual toxs and feels satisfying to use. :)
9:35 Holy shit a Dimrain47 track, I used to listen to his stuff like 15+ years ago
His best IMO, but he has tons of great music
We need more videos like this. Thanks!
More to come!
gotta love yt recommending me this, easiest sub of my life, I love warframe guides that actually relaxing and everything
Great video!
This pushed me to take the toxists over torrid this week, thanks 🎉
Nice video!
If you want to test strong stuff in the simulacrum I would recommend getting either gokstad officers (found on grineer railjack crewships) or even better manic bombard (eximus) (found on uranus sabotage) as they have significantly higher HP than corrupted heavy gunners. For example a lvl 200 manic bombard has as much HP as a lvl 900 corrupted heavy gunner.
For the in mission showcase I think level cap enemies are the best to show off weapons on as archons, liches, acolytes and to some extent demolishers have damage attenuation that can have varying effects on the DPS of a weapon and that pretty much only shows how good a weapon is against that exact damage attenuation. Great video tho! Dual Toxocyst might very well be the strongest gun incarnon although not as comfortable to play as it is very headshot reliant.
Good stuff, I actually saw that exo gokstad officers had the highest ehp but it was an old post and I wasn't sure. Thanks for the info!
Although I tested it on enemies with attenuation to show how flexible the weapon is. I didn't use them in the lex video, for example.
Yet another banger! Keep the vids coming!!
Great vid.
Great line of thought! And i do enjoy the "straight to the point" approach. (a bit more scropt/structure would help a lot imo) EZ SUB and keep it up!
Agreed! For a video like this I probably should have made a script 😂but I wonder if you guys appreciate the "real" approach with the simpler videos like the next one im planning on making. Feedback is much appreciated!
Holy shit, man. I'm shocked by the numbers in the video. Especially the red critical numbers))
Can you show your Operator and the build for it in the next video?
Thanks for your work!
It's just a 177 amp with eternal eradicate and eternal onslaught, a very useful arcane on the operator itself is emergence savior as that can buy you some time to kill the thrax!
I love your attitude, nice to listen your thougts
For the exilus slot, you need silent battery if you are running invisibility frames like ash and ivara. Its mandatory, the rest doesn't add anything of value.
Didnt know that, thanks for the info!
I feel like 'level cap' is pointless because everyone and their grandma has used like, the mk1 braton in level cap. It's not really a test that is as appealing as it was before. Maybe something more accurate would be straight up kill rates or something.
Its funny because i was reading another comment that said the opposite lol! Thats why i included as many enemy types as I could. The kpm on this weapon is great though.
Real men do deep arch testing
loved the video❤
def make a vid for sicarus incarn when it comes back for the people who haven’t used it i have been and honestly its a bit better than dual tox with crit direct dmg for disruption level cap it also hits tier 2 reds without a riv and no topaz shards
there are plans to make a video on the sicarus at some point
thx for the build wantet to get the incarnon for a cuple week and now i dont have to worry. I wanted to use it witout knowing it has a incarnon because i rolled a very good riven
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Only one combination dishes out more dmg than secondary outburst, that’s Galvanized Shot (GS) and Secondary Encumber. Dual Tox has so much multi shot built into the incarnon that you’ll be proc’ing every status and their mother on enemies just as fast as Diraga on top of getting 120% base dmg per element at x3 stacks of GS. I find secondary outburst to be less superior due to the combo management and basically requiring crescendo to make it work without using Routa. And if you’re playing cascade you’re using Madurai 100% of time and not Vazerin.
I'll have to try it out, thanks for letting me know!
Unless you are not building any elements on your weapon, companions or frame, encumbered isn’t going to be as good as you thought. Especially with how fast this gun kills and the fact that gunco ignores incarnon evolution damage
@ gun co doesn’t work on incarnon damage that has aoe. That isn’t the case for toxocyst’s since it’s incarnon dmg is hitscan therefore takes full advantage of it. Things like burston or latron or angstrum wouldn’t work because they have aoe.
Edit: also in the wiki galvanized shot also affects the damage of the ricochet bullets so yeah, it is stronger than YOU think.
@@iamzer0938 learn how to read. I said gun co ignores added base damage from incarnon evolution not gun co doesn’t work on the incarnon transformation. Two completely different things lol
@@rayzhang7591 maybe you should learn to formulate your arguments. Because you said “gunco ignores incarnon evolution damage” then you said “ignores incarnon evolution BASE damage” those are in fact two completely different things. To put it into your own words LOL especially since this weapon has its own CO evolution tree but I digress.
Regardless that +50 extra base damage is entirely minuscule. It can be neglected because of the amount of multishot this particular weapon gets, and you’re always getting a headshot multiplier when shooting into a group of ads so long as one of them is getting pelted in the face. As long as you hit one in the head the ricochet bullets attract to head of the next closest target to the head.
I remember before I had dual toxo my friend and I were 2 manning an eidolon hunt and he was eviscerating the joints with them, I thought he was full of shit until I got them and did it too. xd
Lmao
For some reason my build only has 1.3k total damage even though everything is exactly the same, with even the riven being really similar
I have pistol amp, which im assuming changes the final damage on the build. It doesn't matter too much since a fat chunk of the damage is from crits. That build should perform just fine without pistol amp, but make sure you have arcane precision IF you aren't running hornet strike or a damage arcane (so, not secondary outburst or fortifier).
Great gun. I prefer the Furis though just cuz it's akin to the klamora prism. It kills very fast as well.
Ok fiiiine ill start working on my incarnon genesis for this gun
very great content u need more subs 😬
For Preados perks,
Evo' 3: Wouldn't Adept Reflexes be better ?
Evo' 5: Same for Universal Readiness ?
I have a riven for this and I’m looking to see if I should sell it since it does crazy damage already.
i like this channel
I'd say it's the best weapon. I prefer it to Torid tbh, but my fave to use is probably Furis.
I do prefer using the furis and will likely make a video on it at some point, but I have some other stuff I want to make first.
Was going to mention Furis also. I find it much better than dual tox.
try some punchthrough on dual tox. the rounds that richochet will have a chance to hit multiple enemies ina straight line
wanted to, but also wanted to prioritize single target dps since no dmg helminth
still a really good idea for clearing
cascadia flare would do wonders
wouldn’t you want punch through on the riven though since it makes it so the incarnon reaches more enemies
Yes but i was aiming for more single target dps with this build, otherwise punch through is great!
What should I change if I wanna use this weapon with yareli? Also will I lose a tons of damage if I use secondsry fortifier?
Not much, if you don't have a riven use hornet strike for base damage and you probably won't lose a LOT of damage if u use fortifier. Hope you enjoy!
@ thank you!
Stares in bubinico ...... Use anything you like ....I'll just remove life from every room before hand 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I mean, damage wise yes. But usability is a no. The reason why torid is deemed as the best isnt because of the damage, or the chaining. Its how easy it is to charge and use. No headshots needed.
Toxocysts are so headshot reliant that it makes it more stressful than fun to use. Not to mention the downtime.
If you find the headshot necessity stressful, then yea I'd understand why you wouldn't use it. However, in the case where you're comfortable with the headshots (me personally I am) it's very, very strong, and more enjoyable to use than the torid.
Also not having to play 100% braindead helps especially when going to level cap with rev
i’m sorry to say but this, and i really hate hate saying this but, this is definitely a skill issue moment. Sure the head shots can be annoying but the meter charges so fast and even the body shots ricochet to the heads of other enemies even without aiming for the head. It’s so easy to get head shots usability really isn’t a issue here.
@@Chia_42 you say this as if im not aware. And just because i say its headshot reliant, it doesnt mean i cant land headshots. But to rate a weapon as THE best, you have to take other factors into consideration.
If the torid has 30 ammo in it’s incarnon, itll be a whole different story too. Because its not COMFORTABLE. Is it usable with skill? Yes. It is.
The dual tox are my second most used weapon. Im just being real here. Doesnt mean im incapable.
@ so if the dual tox is ur 2nd most used weapon what are you blabbering on about. Even with taking into consideration all the pros and cons of the weapons the community signifies it as one of the best in the game. It’s super comfy to use lol.
@@Chia_42 im clearly not just speaking for myself. Not everyone wants to deal with a slow ass fire rate weapon to charge the incarnon
Thoughts on doing a latron build?
missed the week :( would take a while but I could when it rolls back around again
what can i use instead of the riven
Probably hornet strike (or anemic agility IF you're using like cascadia flare, deadhead, merciless, etc).
Hey great video! Do you plan to do a video on the Gammacor in the future?
Probably, but i forgot to pick up the incarnon so itll be a while 😭
Isn’t the incarnon at cavalero ? New player here so idk if that’s the same
@@jpmorgan6146 realized that shortly after I commented this, so maybe we'll see a video on it soon? I'll keep you guys updated
@@Finallin is it a good incarnon ? I have a riven for it I didn’t know if it was worth
nah is your profile picture sam flynn from tron legacy? respect solely for that yo
was wondering if anyone would notice, i love tron
@Finallin objectivity right answer
I sold my revin to warframe mod system 😂
For endo
Before the incarnon's show up 😢
IM TELLING IT, DUAL TOXOCYST IS THE BEST WEAPON
I have a similar build but without primed heated charge. In place of that is hornet strike. If I were to replace it for primed heated charge how would it improve my build?
probably not much, the heat procs from the dual tox arent much. I use it primarily for the shards but also for the increase in base damage bc its a primed mod
Bro I was reading through the comments and If you made a discord server I'd definitely join
We'll see!
I thought the hotland music at the start was the undertale yellow version 😅
I got a 242 crit,199 multishot, and minus 37 reload speed riven is that good?
Crit damage? yes, very. Crit chance is also solid but not quite amazing (don't get me wrong that's still a 100% slottable riven and you should use it), but keep rolling and see if you can get something better!
@Finallin it was crit chance, sorry for not specifying, thx tho ill keep rolling
In your volt eidelon build why do you mod for health and armour
I stacked as much survivability as possible (sans rolling guard) to be more comfortable. It’s still a 6x3 build if you’re good enough.
remove the fire, the place for it is the frostbite fire mod it is useless here are you kidding corrosion + fire xd read carefully what the fire effect gives it gives what corrosion gives only 50% and corrosion gives 80% so the fire is useless here I don't know why you put it there
Hey! Because I'm using 5 topaz shards, I need to use a heat mod. Otherwise, they won't proc lol. Also it's a primed mod, like primed convulsion, so it increases my base damage and makes the critical multiplier more effective. Hope this helped!
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god roll is a bit of an overstatement for that riven
also, this weapon doesnt work without punch through
maybe, but it's still super strong and the negative is pretty much non-existent
Even without punchthrough it's still top tier single target dps
Is it better than the Stahlta
Nothing’s better than the stahlta 👀 😂
Is pistol amp bad
Not necessarily? Like i said use something else cz its not really bad but its weaker than most other auras
geometry dash ahh song
Do you have a discord I can join
no, i dont think im quite big enough for that yet :l i'll mention it in a video if i decide to make one!
@@Finallin i would still join even if you are not big enought
@@Prylixs i mention this in my next video, if i hit 1k ill make a server
topaz...
angstrum
will make sure to check out the angstrum next time it rolls around