The Golden Ratio: Is It Myth or Math?

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    The golden ratio. Some say it’s the most mythical number in the universe. Others say it underlies everything from nature’s patterns to beauty in art and design. But, like, what is it? And does the myth of the golden ratio hold up to its mathematical reality? Let’s find out
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 8 тис.

  • @besmart
    @besmart  3 роки тому +2083

    Just trying to think rationally about irrational things…
    Leave a comment and let me know what you thought of the video! I'm on Instagram @DrJoeHanson & @okaytobesmart

    • @yahlifenigstein580
      @yahlifenigstein580 3 роки тому +21

      Awesome video👍I learned about this at school and I actually listened 😱

    • @yokokurama5174
      @yokokurama5174 3 роки тому +6

      Good marketing strategy by attracting the annoying jojo gaefans here...
      Garbage anime toxic fanbase but good marketing ... If it was intentional that is... If it wasn't then yeah excuse the jojo fans they don't represent the anime community.

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 роки тому +7

      Thank you for this ep

    • @michaelgrannen4417
      @michaelgrannen4417 3 роки тому +14

      at 8:34 3/1 = 1?

    • @spindoctor6385
      @spindoctor6385 3 роки тому +1

      Please pronounce the Ts in the word pattern, there are no Ds in it.

  • @pinmanko7798
    @pinmanko7798 3 роки тому +1902

    How to make Fibonacci soup?
    You need :
    1. Yesterdays soup
    2. Day before yesterdays soup

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 3 роки тому +124

      And then to make Fibonacci soup for tomorrow you have to take today's soup and yesterday's soup.
      But wait... how can you use yesterday's soup if you already used it for today's soup?

    • @malaquiasalfaro81
      @malaquiasalfaro81 3 роки тому +32

      This is so funny why is no one liking this

    • @randomperson1418
      @randomperson1418 3 роки тому +2

      @@MariOmor1true lol

    • @Win090949
      @Win090949 2 роки тому +4

      @@MariOmor1 make a new soup and mix it with that soup?

    • @hatemykids1933
      @hatemykids1933 2 роки тому +2

      @@MariOmor1 you dont wanna know

  • @Lifegotmid
    @Lifegotmid 3 роки тому +5437

    Funny Valentine has been real quiet since this has dropped

    • @Agilku117
      @Agilku117 3 роки тому +341

      "I'll do anything for my country"

    • @ousamadearu5960
      @ousamadearu5960 3 роки тому +279

      @@Agilku117
      "DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP!"

    • @yunarukami14
      @yunarukami14 3 роки тому +271

      @@ousamadearu5960 Filthy Acts Done at An Unreasonable Price

    • @rubyred186
      @rubyred186 3 роки тому +158

      @@yunarukami14 dimes for crimes.

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 3 роки тому +103

      @@Agilku117 My heart and actions are utterly unclouded! They are all those of "justice"!

  • @bradensorensen966
    @bradensorensen966 4 місяці тому +290

    What’s neat about plants growing with the golden angle between their leaves or other parts is that they don’t have to be at the golden angle at the start. Leaves can adjust over time to maximize sunlight, settling into the golden ratio rather than forming it automatically.

    • @sarynium
      @sarynium 3 місяці тому +2

      yes@@TheUnitAce

    • @dr.michaelj.stefano8113
      @dr.michaelj.stefano8113 Місяць тому +6

      which is why it should have been mentioned that at least one of the most blatnatly obvious mechanisms for this is phototropism instead of some magnetism mechanism that was mentioned.

    • @BillyWitchDoctorDotCom
      @BillyWitchDoctorDotCom Місяць тому

      They follow a natural mathematical sequence that gets marginally closer and closer to the golden ratio over time.
      The sequence can become infinity close to the golden ratio, but it will never BE the golden ratio.

    • @RedLeg217
      @RedLeg217 Місяць тому +1

      Mixing logic with relativism. Nice.

  • @rezazazu
    @rezazazu 4 місяці тому +101

    The paper leaf part was so amazing. Genuinely creative way of explaining science

    • @Iam_inevitabIe
      @Iam_inevitabIe 3 місяці тому +3

      never expected the video to take that turn

  • @dazc
    @dazc 3 роки тому +2279

    Gyro and Johnny taking notes, then airdropping em to Gappy as we speak

  • @shremp69
    @shremp69 3 роки тому +1528

    The fact that his name is Joe just makes this even more Canon to JJBA

    • @Amuneh
      @Amuneh 3 роки тому +90

      I knew I'd find a jojo ref here

    • @creekline5009
      @creekline5009 3 роки тому +43

      So I wasn't the only one who started watching this for jjba

    • @johnnyjoestarsan2239
      @johnnyjoestarsan2239 3 роки тому +38

      Joe joe bizarre adventure

    • @bjmoreno043
      @bjmoreno043 3 роки тому +4

      @@Amuneh yes

    • @thebard745
      @thebard745 3 роки тому +18

      it took me less than 2 seconds to find a jojo reference

  • @kspreetheunicorn6243
    @kspreetheunicorn6243 6 місяців тому +75

    In Stell Ball Run(jojo part 7) they achieve the perfect rotation, by spinning steel balls(as well as nails) in the golden ratio, which when done perfectly will never stop spinning.
    Probably not possible irl, but still felt the need to share since i couldnt find any jojo refrences.

    • @yeetbigly5827
      @yeetbigly5827 9 днів тому +1

      Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering why everyone was bringing up JJBA.. though, the more I learn about it the more I feel like that show just does everything and anything lol

    • @millie.381
      @millie.381 9 днів тому +1

      @@yeetbigly5827 EVERYTHING happens in jojo

  • @simonsenoner3541
    @simonsenoner3541 10 місяців тому +56

    Love how you integrate comedy to get your lessons easier to digest... wasn't really sure what the Golden Number was all about, now it' s clear!

  • @matthiasfreaked
    @matthiasfreaked 3 роки тому +1853

    What if you wanted to learn about the golden ratio, but then gyro said:
    _lesson 5_

  • @derfuchs3296
    @derfuchs3296 2 роки тому +2466

    Him: Golden Ratio
    My brain: You mean Golden Spin?

  • @Artist_Keena
    @Artist_Keena Рік тому +275

    Thanks for explaining this in depth! One of my past art teachers seemed to obsess over the golden ratio, telling us to look for it in art, and most of the time when they pointed it out in works, I just couldn't see it or things didn't seem to line up perfectly, like the shell you mentioned. I've been wondering about it ever since, and finally, I have clarity!

    • @PinkishPlant
      @PinkishPlant 8 місяців тому +24

      I felt the same way. I was looking at and was so confused what I was missing, it felt like the curve and squares were just drawn onto random parts of buildings and art, guess I was right

    • @samalass466
      @samalass466 7 місяців тому +8

      It honestly feels likr they just nitpick spots that fit their argument. Sometimes they just out it into a spot with open air nothing to back it up.

    • @gaerekxenos
      @gaerekxenos 6 місяців тому +15

      Golden Ratio for art is BS. The actual necessary aspect is the concept of leading the eye around the canvas to retain attention and not lead the eye off the canvas elsewhere (unless that is the entire point of the work, which is another story). A lot of composition 'advice' regarding ratios and placement of content on a page is an attempt to "dumb down" or "simplify" everything into easily repeatable formulas, sort of like templates. Good for mass-produced and soul-less works, but not where/what you want to start off with if you are actually working with proper ideas/concepts that you want to convey

    • @lucianocastillo694
      @lucianocastillo694 4 місяці тому +2

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@gaerekxenoscause plants actually use the golden ratio for maximum energy efficiency, do you think we might also should follow a ratio? Or are you saying that if we try to follow that ratio, we’ll never come close, so be natural in things?

    • @ronniechilds2002
      @ronniechilds2002 4 місяці тому +5

      I had a similar experience. Some people--educated people--just try to shoehorn this Fibonacci business into everything, like every significant ancient structure ever built.

  • @davidparker2173
    @davidparker2173 Рік тому +22

    A 5 to 6 proportion has an aesthetic quality for oil paintings I have preferred over the GR. Though for a long sided rectangle the GR is pristine. The GR enables much and is wondrous for designing a house, as it just makes everything seem to work quite easily. The GR really is an amazing phenomenon.

  • @cliffmatthew8211
    @cliffmatthew8211 3 роки тому +388

    This is spinning my head because it's too bizzare

    • @monkeyboy8569
      @monkeyboy8569 2 роки тому +34

      I see what you did there

    • @wizzotizzo
      @wizzotizzo 2 роки тому +26

      IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 2 роки тому +18

      Finally, a good f**ing comment

    • @WeirdTroll666
      @WeirdTroll666 2 роки тому +3

      lmao those references

  • @TheWanderstar
    @TheWanderstar 3 роки тому +1971

    I just found the word golden ratio in my maths textbook and I googled it and saw this vid so I clicked on it and now I feel like I'm in a cult or something.

    • @abeestosruinsageneration3725
      @abeestosruinsageneration3725 2 роки тому +141

      We aren't a cult, we are a "family."

    • @TheWanderstar
      @TheWanderstar 2 роки тому +46

      @@abeestosruinsageneration3725 lol vin diesel memes?

    • @razepp
      @razepp 2 роки тому +64

      family is more inportant than family

    • @abeestosruinsageneration3725
      @abeestosruinsageneration3725 2 роки тому +35

      @@TheWanderstar I'm an uncultured swine and I don't know what you are talking about. Now go ahead and find the golden ratio in a cup of tea, please.

    • @idlevillager3763
      @idlevillager3763 2 роки тому +7

      Math. Not even once.

  • @GroovingPict
    @GroovingPict 8 місяців тому +9

    I did pick the golden rectangle in the beginning, but only because I knew the "right" answer would be credit card shaped, so I looked for the most credit card looking rectangle... it didnt "feel" more special than the others. Everyone knows that the perfect rectangle shape is the one used for the A-series of paper sizes anyway, ie any rectangle with a ratio of 1:root 2

  • @Oleg-mx8gr
    @Oleg-mx8gr 6 місяців тому +3

    I love the fact that Derek paid tribute to Bolyai by mentionning him, even though he wasn't recognized as the cornerstone of the non-Euclidian geometry. We should appreciate people for who they are and thank them for doing their best.

  • @gyrozeppeli00
    @gyrozeppeli00 2 роки тому +699

    When steel ball run finally got dropped, prepare yourselves to see golden ratio everywhere.

    • @D4_Four
      @D4_Four 2 роки тому +11

      And yes that's gonna be a Ten years to wait for

    • @naipsiefilderussatser4067
      @naipsiefilderussatser4067 2 роки тому +8

      Yea 8-10 years later

    • @joyconbulb3743
      @joyconbulb3743 2 роки тому +10

      @@naipsiefilderussatser4067 nah Id say 5 years at most since stone ocean is gonna release soon

    • @funkydong5315
      @funkydong5315 2 роки тому +3

      @@joyconbulb3743 I mean horses are a pain to animate

    • @joyconbulb3743
      @joyconbulb3743 2 роки тому +1

      @@funkydong5315 True but they could easily get some people who animated like attack on titan on board since they would be use to it. It would still take long but not no 10 years like some people are saying.

  • @MedlifeCrisis
    @MedlifeCrisis 3 роки тому +3182

    OK but I DO want to watch that golden ratio documentary that was mentioned in the pre roll ad. The host looked a lot like Joe, weird.

    • @shoaibakhtar4389
      @shoaibakhtar4389 3 роки тому +13

      Hey doc please reply!

    • @serenevalor
      @serenevalor 3 роки тому +62

      **chews carrot** 🥕 ehhh......what's up doc?

    • @apocalypse487
      @apocalypse487 3 роки тому +2

      The force uses the golden ratio.

    • @OtherTheDave
      @OtherTheDave 3 роки тому

      Especially if it uses that intro 😂

    • @jaydeep-p
      @jaydeep-p 3 роки тому +3

      You are like the elon musk of youtubers

  • @carpenterhillstudios8327
    @carpenterhillstudios8327 4 місяці тому +4

    Irrational numbers and ancient greeks bothered me until I realized what you mentioned in passing early in your video- "ratio" which requires two components. So it's not about the dividing of one into the other for a quotient but it is to consider the relationship itself which creates the geometric result. Geometry literally means "earth meausre'. It was decades ago now that I began to conceive of Phi as a geometric function and what fun I've had. The ancient architectures become clearer when you look through that lens. Great video and thank you for pushing through the myth a bit.

  • @iciu7712
    @iciu7712 Рік тому +6

    All I can hear is Gyro Zeppeli singing PIZZA MOTZARELLA

  • @greenman784
    @greenman784 3 роки тому +540

    "Gyro, does this man know that technique?"
    "I don't know Johnny. I don't know."

    • @thepillarmen2960
      @thepillarmen2960 3 роки тому +10

      There it is!

    • @jullehemmi9812
      @jullehemmi9812 3 роки тому +6

      I was hoping for a JoJo reference

    • @thepillarmen2960
      @thepillarmen2960 3 роки тому +3

      @@jullehemmi9812 I refuse

    • @cithara8954
      @cithara8954 3 роки тому +5

      I saw the title of this video. Clicked on it just to find a Jojo comment. I'm not disappointed.

    • @crazyguyethan1848
      @crazyguyethan1848 3 роки тому +2

      * Infinitely rotates refresh button so you cant watch *

  • @ginlix8898
    @ginlix8898 2 роки тому +4578

    damn. jojo got so popular that humans made the golden ratio in real life

    • @Romeo-le2ez
      @Romeo-le2ez 2 роки тому +22

      Luv u ani lr gito

    • @dariuscahyadi9607
      @dariuscahyadi9607 2 роки тому +180

      As a human i can comfirm this

    • @Dexalium
      @Dexalium 2 роки тому +211

      As a confirm i can human this

    • @pikachu-jf2oh
      @pikachu-jf2oh 2 роки тому +113

      a confirm as this can I human.

    • @rymaix
      @rymaix 2 роки тому +60

      as a jojo fan on part 7 i can confirm this

  • @holloworacle3140
    @holloworacle3140 Рік тому +20

    Will this teach me to shoot my fingernails

  • @meeshaz9499
    @meeshaz9499 Рік тому +1

    Best video ever!!! Love the way our smart teacher explains all this complicated stuff so awesomely

  • @MrTv-sc5tm
    @MrTv-sc5tm 2 роки тому +1649

    Thanks I needed to learn this, I'm in a horse race and a friend showed me the power this holds and I'm kinds struggling to get the hang of it

    • @arthurrafra9576
      @arthurrafra9576 2 роки тому +187

      Don't worry, you would master it soon enough when you meet the president

    • @joeykitty8678
      @joeykitty8678 Рік тому +69

      I somehow misread that as "I'm a horse" and imagined you as the horse in the race... Idk, I guess I blame the creepy pineapple thing at the end of the video for kinda making my imagination run wild :P lol
      And also, good luck ! :)

    • @tammv2306
      @tammv2306 Рік тому +8

      @@joeykitty8678 🤣🤣🤣

    • @37rainman
      @37rainman Рік тому +12

      There is nothing about this to "get the hang of". It is horse hockey. Bet your friend has lost shitloads of money at horse race betting

    • @fazguy4547
      @fazguy4547 Рік тому +38

      For the unbased, jojo

  • @bucci6344
    @bucci6344 2 роки тому +1355

    “This is the Golden Spiral”
    The comment section: *SPEEEEEEEN*

  • @erikalenoeye8925
    @erikalenoeye8925 Рік тому +5

    Fun fact: Jyotirlingam temples in India are built in the structure of the golden ratio, their description is also found in ancient scriptures which are much older than any of the greek mathematians.
    PS, Manchester university conformed that gravity was stolen from an old saint's philosophy by newton. So take everything with a grain of salt

    • @millicentsmallpenny5837
      @millicentsmallpenny5837 2 місяці тому

      Lol. How in the heck does one "steal science"???? No one owns science.
      As Newton himself famously said " I saw what I saw by standing on the shoulders of giants". EVERY advance in knowledge is built upon the knowledge from before
      Newton in no way claimed to have invented the notion of gravity which is simply a name for the whatever causes a dropped rock to fall to the earth. Even today, the best physicists say that we understand little about gravity, but we know a lot about the effects of gravity.
      But there was certainly no one before Newton who even remotely did what Newton did with the subject of the effects of gravity
      So your next assignment would be to find that "old saints" work. Does it resemble, in any way, what Hewton came up with?? We use Newtons work for the ballistics required to confidently set a man on the moon. Could you do that with the old saints work? Do you even begin to understand what the old saint came up with? Newton had to invent a brand new branch of mathematics to even examine what he was learning. So I guess the old saint also invented "calculus", but we have erroneously accredited that to Newton? The poor dude! How totally wronged he was!
      I LOVE this hilarious idea of people "stealing" science from others. Recently I interacted with a lady who claimed that Einsteins first wife came up with special relativity, but Einstein "stole it". Marconi "stole" radio from Tesla. (At any moment that Tesla was doing ANYTHING, there were a dozen scientists around the world doing exactly the same thing). It goes on and on, and gets a bit tiring

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Рік тому +8

    I use PHI in my art cause it makes things just look nice. I just like rules based starting points for creative endeavours and PHi is one of my go to rules.

  • @jojom38
    @jojom38 3 роки тому +455

    I thought I would only watch it’s okay to be smart in school but now I’m using it to understand how a manga character works

  • @animationspace8550
    @animationspace8550 3 роки тому +4638

    Can we have more of Joe doing parodies of History Channel

    • @besmart
      @besmart  3 роки тому +863

      Sure! Sometimes it just has to be done

    • @Jesse__H
      @Jesse__H 3 роки тому +213

      🖐️🤨🖐️
      A L I E N S

    • @yokokurama5174
      @yokokurama5174 3 роки тому +48

      Finally a comment not made by a mainstream sheep.

    • @abelcheng2073
      @abelcheng2073 3 роки тому +11

      That would be awesome.

    • @TheAmethyz
      @TheAmethyz 3 роки тому +27

      Basically thing that some ppl think proves god actually is yet another evidence for evolution. Time always wins.

  • @imnotaprofit1648
    @imnotaprofit1648 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m definitely gonna win the steel ball run now thanks dude

  • @olutosinoseni1952
    @olutosinoseni1952 Рік тому +7

    I'm having a hard time finding out if this is a history lesson or a maths one. Very cool!

  • @luizguilhermedesouzahilara6627
    @luizguilhermedesouzahilara6627 2 роки тому +741

    Listen Joe, here goes our 5th and last lesson:
    The shortest route was a detour. It was the detour that was our shortest path!

    • @albumkosong
      @albumkosong 2 роки тому +50

      Arigatou, Luiz

    • @hyperdemise9752
      @hyperdemise9752 2 роки тому +40

      Chumimin!

    • @urangames457
      @urangames457 2 роки тому +23

      ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

    • @SidewaysTrueno
      @SidewaysTrueno 2 роки тому +11

      @@urangames457 okay this is getting cringe

    • @urangames457
      @urangames457 2 роки тому +14

      @@SidewaysTrueno tell that to Tusk whose line i quoted

  • @yoyojackyo80
    @yoyojackyo80 3 роки тому +1910

    I can’t believe that opening sequence lasted 30 seconds haha. Joe is surprisingly funny

    • @bludfyre
      @bludfyre 3 роки тому +6

      I found Uncle Carl to be funnier

    • @felicityggreene7831
      @felicityggreene7831 3 роки тому +9

      Lol yeah, he had so much fun filming it, he had to show it again at the end! 😂

    • @kevinbuyks6788
      @kevinbuyks6788 3 роки тому +9

      It could have been an intro of History Channel's Ancient Aliens 🤣 Mystery, Conspiracy, lunacy 🤣

    • @marcvanleeuwen5986
      @marcvanleeuwen5986 3 роки тому +29

      Actually 32 seconds, which is almost 34. Aha! a Fibonacci number! Could that be coincidence??

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      @thewriteinpresident 3 роки тому

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  • @mrmaybee
    @mrmaybee Рік тому +8

    As a youngster in college, my math prof of my analytic geometry course was amazed to run into me in the library on my way to check out D. W. Thompson's 'On Growth and Form'. It's a true classic; if this kind of thing interests you, it's still my first recommendation.

  • @BernGoulart
    @BernGoulart 10 місяців тому +7

    I don't think that I could have learned this any way else besides the way this video did, it was brilliant, super fun and as a plus I got a little smarter

  • @MasonGreenWeed
    @MasonGreenWeed 3 роки тому +256

    Lesson 5 Johnny : the shortest route is the detour

  • @Gia1911Logous
    @Gia1911Logous 3 роки тому +313

    You've scrolled down enough to find my comment
    Well done
    Here are some tips:
    1: If you have the will, then do it.
    2: Work those muscles.
    3: Believe in the spin.
    4: Pay your respects. Spin your bullets in the golden ratio.
    5: The shortest route is the detour. It is the detour that will be your shortest path.

  • @Baileys032
    @Baileys032 Рік тому +1

    I'm speechless. You just got yourself a new subscriber. Awesome job dude!

  • @evanwilson5027
    @evanwilson5027 4 місяці тому +1

    Subject I've been curious about for a while now. Thanks for making it easy to learn

  • @morizzd
    @morizzd 3 роки тому +343

    "The world is a messy place" - Looking around my home: wow, how did he know

    • @saiku9081
      @saiku9081 3 роки тому

      👁️👄👁️

    • @deheerschappij
      @deheerschappij 3 роки тому

      how did he know? Phi !!

    • @morizzd
      @morizzd 3 роки тому +1

      @@deheerschappij Oh no, I thought I had a chance to better myself. Damn universe

    • @RudolfJvVuuren
      @RudolfJvVuuren 3 роки тому

      Golden ratio baby!

    • @bestryfulhd2102
      @bestryfulhd2102 3 роки тому

      thats why we have cancer , so we thank God for our not-messy bodies ,, if there was no cancer in people we would think our bodies are messy .
      this youtuber is clearly using science to tell us things are messy so we dont study it ,
      but when we know that things are well designed we will try to discover more ,, and everything scientist came to discover have seen the beauty of its design , and that if it moves a little bet from what its designed it get destructed.

  • @BadassBobY
    @BadassBobY 3 роки тому +207

    Him : Did you pick this one?
    Me : No I didn't-
    Him : *Because this is the most aestheticly pleasing rectangle*
    Me : oh ok sorry 👀

  • @manog8713
    @manog8713 10 місяців тому +5

    Fantastic, open mided and realistic account of the hype of Golden Ratio. Well done.

    • @jacobtaylor8250
      @jacobtaylor8250 4 місяці тому +1

      I wonder why gravity causes the spiral of galaxys to be the same as these plants

  • @rbkishere
    @rbkishere 5 місяців тому +2

    when i finished jjba sbr i never thought that there is such a beautiful process behind golden ratio.

  • @weroleoify
    @weroleoify 3 роки тому +352

    I love PBS and never touched one of the math videos until now. This guy right here is the proof to "you don't hate math/are bad at math, you just got taught the wrong way".

    • @gyozakeynsianism
      @gyozakeynsianism 3 роки тому +15

      Learning math takes hard work and patience. A bad teacher can make it harder, but nothing makes up for hard work and patience.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 3 роки тому +12

      I mean, I wouldn't say you really learn anything about math here. It's a good, concise explanation of the golden ratio that debunks some myths about it, but the math is used is very simple, and I say that as someone who hates math.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT 2 роки тому +11

      Fundamentally you're not learning mathematics per se here. You're not gonna be able to understand most maths any better
      I gave up on maths of my own will because it was sucking up too much time, that's literally what everyone does to anything they don't like. The only reason anyone is bad at anything is non engagement

    • @tylermcnally8232
      @tylermcnally8232 2 роки тому +4

      Everyone has the same building blocks in their brain and can all learn math to the same degree, it boils down to if your interested or not.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Рік тому

      @@gyozakeynsianism and that is the truth

  • @gentlemagala3829
    @gentlemagala3829 2 роки тому +295

    "Spin your nails in the golden ratio!... then you should have the ability to harness the power of infinity"

  • @morgangreene19
    @morgangreene19 11 місяців тому +6

    I think we just have a compulsive need to fit a chaotic world into a rigid structure. We often unknowingly attempt make sense of things that can’t make sense nature. Like images in a cloud.

  • @bojackhorsingaround
    @bojackhorsingaround 11 місяців тому

    I love your channel, often learn a lot.
    Wonderful film. Thank you!

  • @shonenchef7249
    @shonenchef7249 3 роки тому +1330

    This video is gonna blow up after Jojo part 7 is animated

  • @cyanide6954
    @cyanide6954 2 роки тому +674

    I love how the comment section just evolved into jojo. Everything is related to jojo nowadays

    • @jtg7496
      @jtg7496 2 роки тому +44

      everything is golden ratio
      everything is jojo reference
      golden ratio is jojo reference

    • @cyanide6954
      @cyanide6954 2 роки тому +11

      @@jtg7496 yes

    • @Donneman
      @Donneman 2 роки тому +15

      everything is a jojo reference

    • @Stickman_Productions
      @Stickman_Productions 2 роки тому +9

      Everything is a jojo siwa reference because things exist in the show and things exist out of the show

    • @thisisrex1676
      @thisisrex1676 2 роки тому +6

      @@Stickman_Productions why does this make me physically recoil?

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson 3 місяці тому

    This was a really great video! I'm so glad I stayed until the end!

  • @AbhinavSingh-up7bl
    @AbhinavSingh-up7bl 2 місяці тому +2

    The Fibonacci numbers were first described in Indian mathematics as early as 200 BC in work by Pingala also he mentioned about Pascale Triangle

  • @jakobsonprofaned5168
    @jakobsonprofaned5168 3 роки тому +550

    "Our brain loves patterns, for example if we remember the position of a mouth, nose and eyes we later see faces everywhere"
    Amogus

    • @gifzwerk
      @gifzwerk 3 роки тому +54

      Get out of my head

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 3 роки тому +21

      S I L E N C E

    • @jesseklaver8905
      @jesseklaver8905 3 роки тому +17

      Aaahhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhh,get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, grabs a 12 gauge shotgun, ends it all (like a boss)😎

    • @lebaeuhjunkyard4731
      @lebaeuhjunkyard4731 3 роки тому +14

      📮

    • @user-yp5ko8us9j
      @user-yp5ko8us9j 3 роки тому +10

      Disgusting. Vile. Bring back tradition, reject modernity. Amogus shall fall, and Illuminati shall rise once more!

  • @henrynewgate1775
    @henrynewgate1775 2 роки тому +629

    Interesting how the only thing I knew about the golden rectangle before watching this video was Steel Ball Run's infinite spin

    • @Shawarma101
      @Shawarma101 2 роки тому +43

      me too and tbh I never heard of Golden Rectangle until I read part7 I am not even joking I thought it was a manga thing and it didn't exist in real life :')

    • @saimongabamoguis4512
      @saimongabamoguis4512 2 роки тому +8

      Same

    • @echmaster6029
      @echmaster6029 2 роки тому +2

      Same

  • @thomasolson7447
    @thomasolson7447 Рік тому +2

    All these types of sequences c*a[n]=b*a[n-1]+c*a[n-2] have a relationship with quadratics. The cool thing is, if you do algebra you can get values (cos(pi/n)...). The interesting part about this is at n>6. The values start becoming complex. Not all of them are complex. There is a composite number type thing going on. Anyway, this is the part where I remind you that there are no general solutions after fourth degree polynomials. There are methods that are congruent with these algebra sequences, but there is no general solution for all polynomials.

  • @dichterwald91
    @dichterwald91 8 місяців тому +1

    My friends argued with me when I tried say anything against this number. Thanks for criticism I was looking for!

  • @matthew_thefallen
    @matthew_thefallen 3 роки тому +482

    "Ape brain like pretty pattern"
    - Joe

    • @FairMiles
      @FairMiles 3 роки тому +14

      And THAT's the true monkey puzzle!

    • @liamjedi5341
      @liamjedi5341 3 роки тому

      i broke the funny number likes

    • @ZentaBon
      @ZentaBon 3 роки тому

      @@liamjedi5341 no.

    • @hollanderson
      @hollanderson 3 роки тому +1

      I lik preti pattn :3

    • @thenasadude6878
      @thenasadude6878 3 роки тому +6

      Where banana ❌
      Where pretty pattern ✅

  • @samyakbankar5022
    @samyakbankar5022 Рік тому +1113

    ADMIT IT !
    ADMIT THAT STEEL BALL RUN IS YOUR FAV PART

  • @basti5263
    @basti5263 3 місяці тому

    That intro hit me so hard, i was expecting the line: 'the golden ratio strikes back!'

  • @llgxz
    @llgxz 2 роки тому +282

    Literally anything: **exists**
    JoJo fans: "It's free real estate."

    • @aidanwoodward3975
      @aidanwoodward3975 2 роки тому

      I think you fortnite because they steal *EVERYTHING*

    • @dragonic_ragecore
      @dragonic_ragecore 2 роки тому +4

      I agree man, I'm tired of anime fans screaming in my ear.

    • @gusty7153
      @gusty7153 2 роки тому +9

      it's the golden anime

    • @angychillface6146
      @angychillface6146 2 роки тому +6

      I mean this is true cuz this is free real estate

    • @Hrxxiti
      @Hrxxiti 2 роки тому +5

      @@dragonic_ragecore lol, you'll never get rid of us

  • @sibil-khan621
    @sibil-khan621 2 роки тому +155

    Now i can spin my steel balls on my horse and use the infinity

    • @Rhakjellg
      @Rhakjellg 2 роки тому +3

      can you elaborate?

    • @Shawarma101
      @Shawarma101 2 роки тому +17

      I did it! but now my friend with a ball made out of steel with a horse who makes really bad jokes died :(

    • @ChiknLorde
      @ChiknLorde 2 роки тому +10

      @@Shawarma101 sayonara gyro

    • @angychillface6146
      @angychillface6146 2 роки тому

      Same

    • @angychillface6146
      @angychillface6146 2 роки тому

      Funni spin

  • @amitdalal
    @amitdalal Рік тому +7

    One doesn't always know all the history of something before it gets named. That's especially true in mathematics where the same thing can be discovered independently. For example, what we call the Pythagorean theorem was known over a thousand years before Pythagoras in Old Babylonia, and known in both India and China about the time Pythagoras lived.
    It wasn't well known until recently that the Fibonacci sequence appeared in other places before Leonardo Pisano Fibonacci (1170-1250) included his rabbit problem in his arithmetic book, Liber Abaci, in 1202.
    About 50 years earlier Hemachandra (1089-1173) counted the number of ways a line of poetry can be composed of short syllables of length 1 and long syllables of length 2. A line of length 1 can only be a short syllable; one of length 2 either two shorts or 1 long; etc. The same sequence 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, ... results. Apparently Gopala had studied these numbers in about 1135, other Indian mathematicians as early as the 7th century, and perhaps even Pingala, the author of the Chandaḥśāstra, centuries before that.

  • @wendellwiggins3776
    @wendellwiggins3776 8 місяців тому +1

    what even more cool is that the size of the leaves as they grow up and out are PHI in size to the preceding leaf. This idea of Nature is to be as proficient as possible while exerting the least amount of energy so though not everything is exactly Phi, Natures strives to be. !

  • @lenn939
    @lenn939 3 роки тому +130

    TIL why “irrational numbers” are called “irrational.” I always thought it was a strange name but it makes a lot more sense now that I know it comes from “ratio.”

    • @sarathchandran3503
      @sarathchandran3503 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/DIrvM1gcnPU/v-deo.html
      Golden ratio
      More detailed explanation

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому +1

      Aloha.
      I thought this channel's comment-section/s, if any place,
      would have smarteristic and smarttastic people.
      So i wanted to ask your opinion of a Project of mine,
      trying to help youtube help itself - getting it to become less
      of what can only be described as 'Messy' without wanting
      to use hard swearing...
      P0rn, Racism, Sexism, Scam, Spam-Bots, P0rn-Spam-Bots
      and much more. Oh, and of course the new Kid in Town:
      The Covid-Denier/Mask-Hater.
      All of them are non-subtle (some more than others)
      and therefore easy to find.
      I used the reportbutton as it was originally intended;
      not as Cancel-Culture but to help.
      Just this week, i got 1 Covid-Denier-Channel (yes, the entire thing,
      not just 1 video) and 2 Open Racists (Users, not UA-camrs) removed.
      And this feels good.
      No, its not a 'Wonder-Miracle-Solution!!', but who needs that? Do you need that?
      Yet, i feel confident about this enough to ask: Wanna join the Fun? The helping?
      Both?
      Sorry for the long comment and sorry there is no
      Miracle-Hyper-Super-Solution, but hey, its cost-free and
      totally-your-own-time-schedule, as well as just plain fun,
      so i hope such Package is good enough for you.
      Smart is in this channel's name, after all, so i hope you at least
      consider helping UA-cam and the Internet... cause it sure as fluff could
      need the help, tbh...

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому +2

      @@Ani-yt4nf ?
      What?
      ?

    • @exposinghypocrites4827
      @exposinghypocrites4827 2 роки тому

      @@loturzelrestaurant "The Covid-Denier/Mask-Hater." You're a brain washed dunce 🙄

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому +2

      @@exposinghypocrites4827 Your comment a week ago was pretty dumb.
      Not even sure how, but calling others brain washed is 'usually' dumb, so thats that.
      What was i brain-washed about, mate? Knowing that Vaccines are good and everyone should take them? Is that what i'm washed to believe?
      ...Oh buddy...

  • @Elijah_Yinkledoink
    @Elijah_Yinkledoink 2 роки тому +860

    The Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio are a power couple.

  • @danknfrshtv
    @danknfrshtv 5 місяців тому +1

    The "phi-ncone/phi-napple" gag earned a new sub 😂

  • @Failzz8
    @Failzz8 Рік тому +2

    Now I'm curious, what WOULD the distribution look like if a ton of people were presented a bunch of rectangles, like at the beginning, and told to pick their favorite?

  • @glacierwolf2155
    @glacierwolf2155 3 роки тому +384

    The golden ratio: _Exists._
    The JoJo fanbase: "Hippity hoppity, this mathematical concept is our property!"

    • @giftedguitarist161
      @giftedguitarist161 3 роки тому +16

      Thank you so much, Now I know why my JoJo viewing friend mentioned this concept and was adamant about talking about it. Seems like my hesitation and skepticism were somewhat warranted.

    • @taterds7858
      @taterds7858 3 роки тому +13

      @Captain Bruh hey man thats kinda rude

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg 3 роки тому +13

      @Captain Bruh no

    • @user-ee8br7jp7b
      @user-ee8br7jp7b 3 роки тому +6

      @Captain Bruh homestuck is 10x worse... believe me

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 3 роки тому +22

      @Captain Bruh
      If they’re capable of ruining the music for you, then did you really care about the music in the first place?

  • @akairyu1291
    @akairyu1291 3 роки тому +203

    Gyro Zeppeli aproves this video

  • @huyked
    @huyked Рік тому

    This episode went by really fast. Very interesting stuff I didn't know, even if I have heard of it before.

  • @cgthayer
    @cgthayer Місяць тому

    Stephen Wolfram of Mathematica has discussed this quite a bit: how the universe can start from such simple computation. I think what's really appealing here is that this is an interesting, seeming complicated number, and natural phenomenon that comes from very simple rules.

  • @botigamer9011
    @botigamer9011 3 роки тому +253

    TL:DR
    You are increasingly likely to find a golden ratio in things, if you increase the number of things you measure, and you increase the allowable error bars. This is true for any ratio

    • @gilgabro420
      @gilgabro420 3 роки тому +3

      What really bothered me is that he did not use averages.

    • @domhamai
      @domhamai 3 роки тому +17

      The golden ratio is a 'beautiful' proportion though, and just because we find stretched representations does not take away from why it is so intriguing in the first place.

    • @shoam2103
      @shoam2103 3 роки тому +9

      Good tldr! In some cases, yes. In other cases, it's the most appropriate ratio for the situation. Similar to how e is the most natural exponential.

    • @p.9227
      @p.9227 3 роки тому +13

      @@domhamai But many other ratios can be intriguing and beautiful too, like pi. It all depends on your perspective.

    • @domhamai
      @domhamai 3 роки тому +3

      @@p.9227 absolutely!

  • @tommyvictorbuch6960
    @tommyvictorbuch6960 2 роки тому +1092

    I find this extremely fascinating. As a photographer, I use the Golden Ratio all the time. It simply makes pictures better, no matter the genre.

    • @aur9035
      @aur9035 2 роки тому +32

      How. How. how.

    • @theufakefe
      @theufakefe 2 роки тому +4

      So awesome!

    • @Michael-dx8qz
      @Michael-dx8qz 2 роки тому +62

      @@aur9035 change the rules of third to golden ratio

    • @shayanaman995
      @shayanaman995 2 роки тому +62

      mans mastered spin

    • @houdinididiit
      @houdinididiit 2 роки тому +84

      @@aur9035 In most photo editing programs you can place a grid over your photo as you are cropping it. Well, the grid that overlays can either be - boxes as thirds or - you have the option of overlaying a Golden Ratio Spiral. I use it myself to size things up. I assume that's what be spoken of here. Hope that helps ✌️

  • @mikemccartneyable
    @mikemccartneyable 8 місяців тому

    Very good video. Small correction, the golden angle is 360 * 1/(Phi)^2

  • @MedEighty
    @MedEighty 10 місяців тому +3

    I watched this on a 16 by 10 screen and it was beautiful.

  • @TheKopakah
    @TheKopakah 3 роки тому +110

    there must be a cool/perfect way to get the "golden angle" on paper besides eyeballing it with your protractor

    • @besmart
      @besmart  3 роки тому +75

      There is! You can divide a line into the golden ratio segments with just a ruler and a compass: www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi2DGeomTrig.html

    • @mehmeh3894
      @mehmeh3894 3 роки тому +4

      Step 1: Draw a pineapple

    • @pg9193
      @pg9193 3 роки тому +3

      if you're using a protractor, then you're probably not eyeballing it, no?

    • @a2pabmb2
      @a2pabmb2 3 роки тому +1

      @@pg9193 You're eyeballing an irrational interval on an integer-denoted metric, so... yeah. You are.

    • @pg9193
      @pg9193 3 роки тому

      @@a2pabmb2 good point, I see what you mean and agree. I guess there's no way of not eyeballing it, unless you're using a machine/computer

  • @badlydrawnturtle8484
    @badlydrawnturtle8484 3 роки тому +118

    "Which of these rectangles is the most balanced, the most beautiful?"
    Anybody who didn't pick the square is objectively wrong.

    • @pedroivog.s.6870
      @pedroivog.s.6870 3 роки тому +2

      Makes sense

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 3 роки тому +23

      "most *balanced* "
      I mean... you aren't wrong. Square IS the most balanced...
      As all things should be.

    • @badlydrawnturtle8484
      @badlydrawnturtle8484 3 роки тому +14

      @@nadermunye4879
      By standard definitions, yes it is.

    • @tripedal2063
      @tripedal2063 2 роки тому +2

      @@nadermunye4879 It is, go to school

    • @a.lexandra03
      @a.lexandra03 2 роки тому +1

      @@nadermunye4879 A rectangle is not a square, but a square is a rectangle. A rectangle needs four 90deg lines to close, while a square needs four equal 90 deg lines

  • @roger7341
    @roger7341 8 місяців тому

    Historically τ and ρ were used to represent φ and 1/φ. I like that better because τ ρ = 1 and τ - ρ = 1, and all the identities are so much easier to derive.

  • @khumbochiletso2039
    @khumbochiletso2039 13 днів тому

    why am i only finding you now - my life just made sense with this one video

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 3 роки тому +258

    You know what's also golden?
    This channel

    • @KaasIsLekker
      @KaasIsLekker 3 роки тому +2

      You're channel ;)

    • @cookiecrumbler2345
      @cookiecrumbler2345 3 роки тому +11

      @@KaasIsLekker y o u a r e c h a n n e l

    • @FenrizNNN
      @FenrizNNN 3 роки тому +9

      How can people still mess "you're" with "your"?

    • @KaasIsLekker
      @KaasIsLekker 3 роки тому +3

      @@FenrizNNN people can still mess with auto correct :) I will leave it like that but thanks for the tip :D

    • @FizzyToni
      @FizzyToni 3 роки тому

      Shower :)

  • @KoeSeer
    @KoeSeer 3 роки тому +1231

    I love how this video became jojo fanbase gathering spot.

    • @amaruifayemi2450
      @amaruifayemi2450 2 роки тому +34

      gyro is the only reason I clicked on the video

    • @officialgaming9203
      @officialgaming9203 2 роки тому +1

      @@loturzelrestaurant gaming

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому

      @@officialgaming9203 Yes?
      The user 'Gaming', will 'help'?
      Yes?

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому

      @@officialgaming9203 Gaming will kick some 'Karens', if he knows that term?
      Battle some Sexists and kick them off YT?
      Which would be quite cool?

    • @officialgaming9203
      @officialgaming9203 2 роки тому

      @@loturzelrestaurant gaming

  • @MountainFisher
    @MountainFisher Місяць тому

    I remember as an engineering student before the magnificent invention of the Scientific Calculator by Hewlett Packard in the early 1970s doing math with a slide rule. Hard to believe the SR-71 was made before computers were as they are now, let alone calculators. Random processes do not pick the most efficient forms.

  • @irguygunt33chul3sson
    @irguygunt33chul3sson Рік тому

    You got a subscribe from me literally 15 seconds into your hilarious intro. Well done sir XD

  • @mariozgjani6349
    @mariozgjani6349 3 роки тому +48

    As a Greek person I feel a little bit happy about the fact he said "the Greeks AND the mathematicians" as if every Greek was just doin math as a hobby
    We da smart people

    • @putraduha3176
      @putraduha3176 3 роки тому +17

      Your central bank clearly doesn't do it for the past decade

    • @emsa5034
      @emsa5034 3 роки тому +9

      @@putraduha3176 woah that took an abrupt turn

    • @papasscooperiaworker3649
      @papasscooperiaworker3649 3 роки тому

      @@putraduha3176 Elaborate.

    • @ni3070
      @ni3070 3 роки тому +5

      Good for you that you made name, Indians barely get any credit

    • @RandomAmbles
      @RandomAmbles 3 роки тому +1

      Eh, yall mostly just rediscovered Babylonian stuff. Seriously, name a Greek math development off the top of your head: Pythagorean theorem? -Nah. Euclidian stuff? -Nah. The Greeks did some amazing work, don't get me wrong, but they aren't the only smart people out there by a long shot.

  • @L4PLAC3_
    @L4PLAC3_ 3 роки тому +123

    thirty-five minutes ago, this was posted
    already seven thousand views
    im so glad im not the only one learning for fun

  • @arieslee6933
    @arieslee6933 10 місяців тому

    As soon as you said a nautilus was a cut little shell floating around with a face full of spaghetti, I subscribed to your channel 😂

  • @FrenchOpidum
    @FrenchOpidum 9 місяців тому

    That intro is something I didn't know I needed

  • @aner_bda
    @aner_bda 3 роки тому +63

    It always tickles me that the golden ratio is actually in fact an irrational number. It's like we can never have things just perfectly.

    • @putraduha3176
      @putraduha3176 3 роки тому +12

      Maybe its the human construct of number thats wrong

    • @marcscattolin1554
      @marcscattolin1554 3 роки тому +2

      There are loads of irrational numbers, that doesn't make phi that special.

  • @SquizzleGwen
    @SquizzleGwen 3 роки тому +57

    The leaf one is such a good activity to do with students

  • @mr.pavone9719
    @mr.pavone9719 5 місяців тому +1

    Every time I've read about the Fibonacci sequence in plants it was always stated as fact and never explained.
    Thanks for finally explaining it.

  • @sandysox
    @sandysox 2 місяці тому

    Just love this...even this old brain is understanding your talk xxx

  • @why_though
    @why_though 3 роки тому +83

    "I don't know who closely studies artichokes"
    At that exact moment something died inside every food scientist watching this video.

  • @submarinemagnet7965
    @submarinemagnet7965 3 роки тому +58

    That part where he made us choose a rectangle... I feel the pain of snapping those in place where it's perfectly aligned AND it felt like it was a magic trick that he knew what I picked

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 3 роки тому +4

      I had no single idea what to pick, lol.

  • @1959Edsel
    @1959Edsel 8 місяців тому +4

    The rhombic triacontahedron (used to make the seldom-used 30-sided die, among other things) has golden rhombuses as its faces. The diagonals of each face are in the golden ratio to each other. I find the 30-sided shape to be quite aesthetically pleasing.

  • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
    @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns 4 місяці тому +2

    8:44 It would've been really spooky if Kepler had discovered it 10 years later than he did.

  • @aarav_sharma
    @aarav_sharma 3 роки тому +189

    Its official now "Jo"e has lost "it" And its "perfect"
    -Jo Mama

  • @StatedClearly
    @StatedClearly 3 роки тому +693

    Goldenly done!

  • @MrQuinnlord
    @MrQuinnlord 5 місяців тому

    This is the best PBS channel I feel confident in saying that after 2 videos

  • @michaeljurney8354
    @michaeljurney8354 7 місяців тому

    I don't know any geometry. But a 45 degree offset is .414. I acquired this number with a ruler, and I would say for a square with a size of 1, the diagonal is 1.414.