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  • @AustinJohnPlays
    @AustinJohnPlays Рік тому +1490

    I have a use for the pythagorean theorem in real life application. I’m told a TV’s screen size always as side C and I know it is a 16:9 aspect ratio. I can find the height and width of that screen when the site doesn’t list the dimensions.

    • @RunstarHomer
      @RunstarHomer Рік тому +204

      @@chesterotontop unless you're an engineer, architect, scientist, mathematician, programmer, city planner, game developer, digital artist, etc etc etc.

    • @EsteGod721
      @EsteGod721 Рік тому +17

      Didn't expect to see AustinJohnPlays here but cool to see!

    • @trinitrotoluene3D
      @trinitrotoluene3D Рік тому +16

      @@RunstarHomer He’s being sarcastic

    • @darkfoxfurre
      @darkfoxfurre Рік тому +12

      Well, you'll be able to find out the height and width of the LCD panel; but that screen size doesn't include the plastic frame around the LCD panel. So it can be useful for comparing monitors to one another, but not for knowing exactly whether or not the monitor/tv can fit in a given area. It wouldn't be a bad ballpark for it, though.

    • @trinitrotoluene3D
      @trinitrotoluene3D Рік тому +5

      @@darkfoxfurre 1/t = screen border where t is time because as time goes on, the border decreases XD

  • @klausoshaunacey8429
    @klausoshaunacey8429 Рік тому +387

    I highly recommend the essay “A Mathematician’s Lament” for anyone who wants to go deeply into the way we teach math and how poorly it’s taught that most students find math boring and frustrating in most math classes (I know mine classes were definitely not taught well). Jordan has the energy and love of mathematics that would make him an excellent teacher, and I wish I had someone like him while I was crying over my algebra 2 homework.

    • @Mark-wd5zb
      @Mark-wd5zb Рік тому +10

      OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION....One page in and I absolutely love this premise. It's so perfect.

    • @nessamillikan6247
      @nessamillikan6247 Рік тому +25

      I hated math in school with the exception of geometry in 10th grade. That was a blast. But algebra was always a nightmare. Then I signed up for an algebra class in college with a specific math teacher everyone recommended. She taught math on colorful handouts and in true layman’s terms to where it all connected and made sense. It was like learning math where every lesson is “explain to me like I’m 5”, and her method of teaching was extremely effective and fun! So many students needed a total refresh of some basic math concepts just because of how poorly they were taught in the public school system, and she helped so many students, including me, to be unafraid of math. I wish there were more teachers like her around.

    • @beckmsha
      @beckmsha 6 місяців тому +5

      Same goes for language and literature tbh. People tried to make language more interesting to learn by including pop culture and popular fiction, but it still doesnt capture the incredible nuance and thought/philosophy that goes into writing, speaking, and communication in general.

    • @dotuvoidsynth
      @dotuvoidsynth 3 місяці тому

      ​@@nessamillikan6247do you perhaps remember the name of said teacher? I'd love to check out more about her

    • @rmg480
      @rmg480 2 місяці тому

      I loved math and science, I hate my psrents for hitting me for not answering correctly, but I always knew it was them, I've always loved math.

  • @Vaenivo
    @Vaenivo Рік тому +1592

    I'm a fan of this series, but Jordan was a particularly strong communicator. Thank you for bringing him on, and thank you to Jordan for being a fantastic ambassador for geometry and math writ large.

    • @riesvanwijngaarden3417
      @riesvanwijngaarden3417 Рік тому +18

      To be fair, he did miss the opportunity to proclaim that hexagons are the bestagons

    • @thatrandomharpguy7564
      @thatrandomharpguy7564 Рік тому +6

      thats my uncle lmao

    • @lucasm4299
      @lucasm4299 10 місяців тому +5

      Why did you use “but” as though you were going to say something bad?

    • @alan_davis
      @alan_davis 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@lucasm4299 because they understand language better than you 😊.
      "But" can be used to contrast with (e.g. I'm a fan, but this was trash), or to add to (I'm a fan, but this was excellent).

    • @ElusiveTy
      @ElusiveTy 8 місяців тому +2

      @@lucasm4299 'But' is used to contrast or add something. I have to agree with Alan, they used the word because they have a better understanding of English. 'But' is very commonly used to mean 'as an aside', 'also', or 'additionally'.
      'This was a wonderful meal, but I have to say the chicken was particularly excellent!'

  • @robertalexander-bk5zj
    @robertalexander-bk5zj Рік тому +101

    As we all know, hexagons are the bestagons, but it was nice to hear an explanation about it being incidental in the case of hive cells. Never heard that before in explanations of the subject.

    • @SpitfiretheCat16
      @SpitfiretheCat16 Рік тому

      actually, triangles are the divine shape

    • @robertalexander-bk5zj
      @robertalexander-bk5zj Рік тому +1

      Don't make me call RCE. lol

    • @yxx_chris_xxy
      @yxx_chris_xxy 11 місяців тому +11

      Jordan gave a bad explanation here though. What is special about the regular hexagon is that among all regular polygons (i.e. whose sides are all the same length and the angles between adjacent sides are the same), it's the one with the most sides, such that you can fill a plane with them without gaps. So this uniquely satisfies the goals of maximizing the space for larvae with round cross-section, packing as many compartments into a given space, and minimizing material (wax) cost while having uniform wall strength. No other possible shape is as good as that. You can build a honeycomb out of regular triangles of squares and you'll fill the space with compartments and maintain uniform wall thickness, but it's a bad use of space because you need to make the triangle or squares rather big to fit the round-cross section larvae; if you take regular polygons with 7, 8, 9, or any large number of sides, you will leave unused gaps or waste wax.

    • @PauloSousa86
      @PauloSousa86 4 місяці тому +1

      I think is simpler than that, you can really only put around 6 circles of the same diameter as the central one. In any circle diameter that happens.
      And what happens when you smash those sides equally together? You create an hexagon. Just check a box of straws and you will see that happen.
      Alas you can create a honeycomb filter for a light (that focus light) with straws inside a tube

    • @MattDoesNothing
      @MattDoesNothing Місяць тому +1

      @@PauloSousa86100% this. Hexagon is the byproduct of the design, not the design itself.
      I think color pencil is another good example, by holding 7 of them together, 6 will be surrounding 1 of them regardless of the pencil shape.
      One things people also tend to miss is that most of those insects(bees and wasps) uses a sort of liquid mixture of saliva and other stuff to build their hive. So by starting with liquid, what making the hexagon shape could have something to do with surface tension where it started with circle, and the surface of those circles then stick to one another stretching themselves out before hardening into hexagonal shape.
      If somehow we can drop 7 honey droplets on a flat surface in a rubber band at the same time, with all of them have different dyed, we might be able to see those honey spread out to be shaped like hexagon, considering if the droplets is equal in size and have the same consistency.

  • @hw7003
    @hw7003 Рік тому +878

    As a quilter I use the Pythagorean theorem to figure out how many triangles I can get out of my fabric and how big to measure them. Once I had a pattern for a skirt that wanted right triangles of a certain length on the "c" side so I used it to calculate the "a" and "b" sides

    • @3snoW_
      @3snoW_ Рік тому +42

      As someone who's played around trying to program a pool game, balls in the game have known X and Y coordinates, I've used the Pythagorean theorem to find the distance between balls to check when the balls hit each other.

    • @colinwood9717
      @colinwood9717 Рік тому +20

      I once had to use the Pythagorean theorem as a web developer to calculate the size of a resizable widget when you clicked and dragged the corner! I was like "huh I guess knowing that actually was useful after all"

    • @ima.ekenes
      @ima.ekenes Рік тому +22

      I came here to say I use the Pythagorean theorem for sewing too! For me it's to make zero waste flaired skirts. 💃🏻

    • @BrainBlaster11
      @BrainBlaster11 Рік тому +4

      I use it for plastic wrap 😂 the wrap is normally always the c, so if you go all the way down to a, it will always be enough wrap

    • @CraigKostelecky
      @CraigKostelecky Рік тому +11

      Contractors can also use it to make sure a corner is actually 90 degrees. Measure 3 going one way, 4 going the other, and adjust the corner until the hypotenuse is 5.

  • @jensraab2902
    @jensraab2902 Рік тому +52

    I love how unapologetic Jordan is about drawing crappy circles! 😂
    On a more serious note, I was impressed by how well you pronounce the German names (Einstein and Möbius) in such a casual manner.

  • @JoshBelville
    @JoshBelville Рік тому +339

    As a regular Dungeons & Dragons DM, I have sometimes used the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the distance of flying creatures moving diagonally to the ground to attack players. I'm just glad online calculators exist so I don't have to do the math myself. 🤣

    • @MagatsuNimura
      @MagatsuNimura Рік тому +22

      This is precisely the only way I've used the theorem in the last 25 years hahahahaha. And quite often, I must say.

    • @ccorvid
      @ccorvid Рік тому +8

      saaame lol. til the dm reminds me that diagonals technically don't exist in dnd lol

    • @obiwanpez
      @obiwanpez Рік тому +3

      I created a Collatz Dungeon for a party that was testing the Constable's patience. They would get dropped in Room 3,505,346, and they would be connected to two others, one double the number, and the other half as much. Eventually, they would hit an odd-numbered room, n, which would connect to Room '3n + 1'.
      All numbers, eventually, will connect to Room 1, where the exit would be.

    • @plazma5343
      @plazma5343 11 місяців тому +1

      Its very helpfull in vidéo games too ! I use it all the time to calculate distances between two objects in a plane in small personnal game projects :)
      Every object has x and y coordonnates, calculating the distance between the two is one of the most important things in a game. For détection, colisions etc... and Pythagore is always used.

    • @nickmorris521
      @nickmorris521 7 днів тому

      And that's why the rules say not to worry about diagonals for flying creatures

  • @ClonedGamer001
    @ClonedGamer001 Рік тому +882

    I think the issue with the "Does a straw have one hole or two?" question is that everyone treats it as a geometry problem when it's more of a language problem.

    • @jw4985
      @jw4985 Рік тому +33

      Wittgenstein says hello!

    • @eric8764
      @eric8764 Рік тому +147

      I mean, more of a topology question than geometry.

    • @Coopv
      @Coopv Рік тому +4

      I feel the same way about the question of “are we living in a simulation?”

    • @hugomondoloni9808
      @hugomondoloni9808 Рік тому +18

      Y it s a question of définition
      In maths (topology) the straw has one hole cause it s fondamental group is isomorphic to Z

    • @Zomgnomnom1
      @Zomgnomnom1 Рік тому +12

      ​@@hugomondoloni9808Because literally everything you just said uses language. It's a language game. Every single person has different definitions of when it is 2 or 1 hole. Math is still predicated on language.

  • @Majwt
    @Majwt Рік тому +94

    6:58 The A paper sizes (A4, A3 etc) have a similar property, but it uses sqrt(2) instead of the golden ratio. When you fold it in half the ratio between the long and short side remains sqrt(2).

  • @some-math-nerd6805
    @some-math-nerd6805 Рік тому +23

    As a math teacher, this brings back memories of my college geometry and math history courses! Love it! It’s awesome to see somebody love their profession so much! 😊

  • @yaekmon
    @yaekmon Рік тому +448

    The Pythagorean theorum has a lot of real world applications in architecture. For example, it's useful for designing staircases, since if you know the height of the upper floor, you can calculate the length of the staircase for any given footprint.

    • @FHL-Devils
      @FHL-Devils Рік тому +35

      I used it recently to calculate the bill of materials on the roof of a shed I was building. Of all the mathematical / geometrical rules, this one is one of the more applicable ones to the real world... of course, if you google 'Trigonometry calculator', that's even more precise, and takes away the actual need to do the math...

    • @kingchickadee8694
      @kingchickadee8694 Рік тому +4

      ​​@@FHL-DevilsI did something similar to turn the old, flat, but too short driveway into a new, longer driveway that would have a steep slope. Needed to make sure the rise on the slope wouldn't scrape the car

    • @lourainevillalon3852
      @lourainevillalon3852 Рік тому +5

      i was able to use phytagorean theorem on how much we need to extend our roofing for us not to have side-hitting rain hit our wall (which can weaken the concrete overtime due to accumulation of moisture). i was actually surprised when the calculations worked!! i felt like a wizard

    • @kered13
      @kered13 Рік тому +5

      TV screens are all measured in the diagonal dimension. So if you have a space on your wall that is X inches wide, you can use the Pythagorean theorem (and the fact that most TVs have a 16:9 aspect ratio) to determine the largest screen size you can put there.

    • @matthewhale1572
      @matthewhale1572 Рік тому +1

      I qm an engineer and i use it all the time

  • @rol1in0n20s
    @rol1in0n20s Рік тому +78

    Honey combs is 100% a packing efficiency problem. If you take any circular object, beer bottle, golf ball, whatever. Any circle, and more circles of the same size. You can wrap 6 more circles around the original.

    • @kaseyrolow
      @kaseyrolow 9 місяців тому +5

      That’s wrapping around to make another circle. So yea. But there’s still negative space that’s not being utilized. With strait lines you can take away that negative space. Hence Tetris etc.

    • @randallpetersen9164
      @randallpetersen9164 6 місяців тому +3

      For sure. I was a bit disappointed at his glib and not particularly knowledgeable or intuitive answer. Makes me wonder about some of his other answers.

    • @cankoklu
      @cankoklu 4 місяці тому +3

      Hexagons are bestagons

    • @xkinsey3831
      @xkinsey3831 2 місяці тому

      It's not only packing efficiency, but also structural support and area. Squares tile just as well as Hexagons do, and they use less sides to do it, but they aren't as strong. Triangles tile just as easily as Hexagons do, and use even fewer sides than squares, but they have a smaller area. Hexagons are the perfect middleground for largest area (for storing more honey), fewest sides (easier to make), and ability to tile.

    • @MattDoesNothing
      @MattDoesNothing Місяць тому +1

      @@xkinsey3831while that is logically true, nature doesn’t calculate those stuff up.
      Bees just make circles, the same size as each others next to each others and those circle edge or surface tension or whatever it is just pull them to make a Hexagonal shape, that’s all. Hence why the original comment has every explanation needed to explain why it’s hexagon, because you can surround a circle with 6 more circles, and those circles surface, just like bubbles, they stick to each others and stretch out to form hexagon.
      Imagine this, you have 7 syringes of honey hold together, 6 surrounding 1 of them.
      Let’s say you dyed the honey in the middle syringe red. If you squeeze these 7 syringes on a table at the same time to form 7 circles, the honey will slowly spread out and the middle red honey one will spread out to look like, you guest it, hexagon. BOOM, mystery solved.

  • @brianjackson2733
    @brianjackson2733 Рік тому +76

    I used to use Pythagoras to mark out an accurate filed when laying out our clubs field hockey lines at the start of each season. Mark the baseline and then use a 3,4,5 triangle to make 90 degree corners for each sideline.

    • @mm9773
      @mm9773 Рік тому +1

      That’s the one. The Pythagorean theorem’s most useful real world application is to mark out exact right angles when the biggest square you have is still far too small: you can do it with a tape measure.

  • @95rav
    @95rav 11 місяців тому +6

    A straw with one end closed, or a bottle, is just a disc with bent up sides, and NO holes.

  • @riotpaladin9764
    @riotpaladin9764 Рік тому +18

    I just watched a 17 minute video about math of all things, and was entirely entertained by the presenter. Incredible.

  • @TeEstoyMirandoDeCerca
    @TeEstoyMirandoDeCerca 6 місяців тому +8

    I feel that now I have a greater respect for straws. Thank you Mr. Jordan Ellenberg, it is incredible how you manage so much information to filter it into something simple, direct and with great humor

  • @safariguy
    @safariguy Рік тому +52

    Love his enthusiasm for math and geometry!

  • @14768
    @14768 Рік тому +7

    This dude needs his own UA-cam channel where he teaches math. So much more charismatic than any teacher I ever had.

  • @EugeneEff
    @EugeneEff Рік тому +25

    I had to give this a watch. I just used the Pythagorean theorem about two minutes ago. Creating miters for a picture frame and I needs to determine what the third side is going to be!

  • @stevegonzalesjr6007
    @stevegonzalesjr6007 Рік тому +12

    I’ve never liked math but I love this man’s enthusiasm.

  • @ilangated
    @ilangated Рік тому +73

    Pythagorean theorem is really handy for figuring out distances in D&D where all battles are on a grid

  • @davidm2.johnston684
    @davidm2.johnston684 Рік тому +13

    On the Pythagorean theorem : when I was a little boy, on my usual path to school, I had to around two sides of a square, as to not walk on a bit of lawn. I wondered how much distance I would spare every day if I just crossed that lawn across a diagonal. Well... One day I learned how to get that answer.
    You just have to be curious and you will need math in your everyday life.

  • @fieryweasel
    @fieryweasel Рік тому +28

    When he mentioned the super hero movie not inventing the tesseract, I angry-scrolled to make sure "A Wrinkle in Time" was mentioned, just as he said it.

  • @marshallc6215
    @marshallc6215 Рік тому +44

    6:10 if you pinch the bottom, it has zero holes. A bowl or a plate don't have a hole, and an open-topped bottle is the same shape as a bowl or a plate.

    • @theastuteangler
      @theastuteangler 9 місяців тому +2

      is a bottle a bowl?

    • @marshallc6215
      @marshallc6215 9 місяців тому +3

      @@theastuteangler sure, seems a reasonable grouping

    • @fulanoide718
      @fulanoide718 8 місяців тому +1

      A balloon doesn't have a hole either?

    • @marshallc6215
      @marshallc6215 8 місяців тому +6

      @@fulanoide718 correct, it does not. A balloon that is not tied is a deformed disc. Holes cannot be created nor destroyed merely by stretching a shape. Balloons are just bowls with small necks.

    • @JJean64
      @JJean64 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marshallc6215
      You should definitely look into topology, it's basically the study of these "groupings"

  • @rohinkartik-narayan7535
    @rohinkartik-narayan7535 Рік тому +35

    "[Geometry] is the only part of math where you're asked to prove something..."
    Number theorists: "Am I a joke to you?"
    *war flashbacks to Abstract Algebra*
    (To be clear, it's fun, but hard)

    • @d4rkgriff1n3
      @d4rkgriff1n3 Рік тому +7

      I'm pretty sure that proofs are common in exercises and tests for any undergrad level math courses lol

  • @lukestertubeplayz
    @lukestertubeplayz 2 дні тому +1

    I like to define a “Hole” as a region of Entrance, and Passage. For the purpose of my point an Entrance acts as a doorway you can enter and exit via a “doorway”, A passage is always accessed via an Entrance or Entrances. The straw and closed straw both have 1 hole Because both has At least 1 Entrance and a Passage via an Entrance. And a donut also has one hole via my definition.

  • @jpacklick
    @jpacklick Рік тому +32

    Fun fact: the four dimensional tesseract was the central plot feature of Robert Heinlein's short story 'And He Built a Crooked House' published in 1941, twenty one years before 'A Wrinkle in Time' came out. Though I loved a Wrinkle in Time, Heinlein did a far better job describing it.

    • @ccorvid
      @ccorvid Рік тому +1

      I just finished Stranger in a Strange Land, and his description of Mike sending things Away was so good! I'll have to check out that short story sometime soon!

    • @yxx_chris_xxy
      @yxx_chris_xxy 11 місяців тому

      Agree. And this wasn't the only suboptimal description in this video.

  • @ElrondMcBong.
    @ElrondMcBong. Місяць тому +2

    11:31 that was a PERFECT "Einstein"!

  • @friendlybello
    @friendlybello Рік тому +17

    What's fun about this guy is he's clearly talking to the people in the room, not necessarily to the camera. Looks like they were eating it up.

  • @rossbooth4635
    @rossbooth4635 2 місяці тому +1

    I absolutely love the "how many holes are there in a straw" question. As someone who routinely does CAD as a design engineer, my perspective is in the way I'd create it (two steps):
    1) Create a cylinder.
    2) Cut extrude a hole through the entire body.
    Done. One hole.

  • @RomanNumural9
    @RomanNumural9 Рік тому +9

    Math finance PhD student here, just a comment about the random walk question. The Bachelier model in finance is a terrible model for stock movements and this was known at the time they published their model. A better model nowadays is models of the form e^(X(t)) where X(t) is some stochastic process (see something like geometric Brownian motion, the vasicek model, or more exotic models like the Heston model or general jump diffusion models). I bring up this detail because people get really silly and paranoid with stocks and it's important to note that these modeling problems are remarkably complex and nuanced. They require much more than just a random walk to be useful.

  • @Fitzrovialitter
    @Fitzrovialitter Рік тому +6

    5:52 You are changing the goalposts. If you pinch the bottom of the straw, it is no longer the straw as we understand it to be in your question, or what we commonly recognize to be a straw.

  • @iamspeare
    @iamspeare Рік тому +69

    As an Army Sniper I used to do a brief/lecture called "How the Pythagorean Theorem Saved My Life." We use it in ballistics.

  • @BobKimball
    @BobKimball 11 місяців тому +2

    That was the most clear and succinct explanation of gerrymandering I have ever heard. Incredible

  • @nomadicyears3978
    @nomadicyears3978 Рік тому +33

    As someone who plays a lot of D&D we use the Pythagorean theorem all the time to figure out spell distances with flying creatures lol..

  • @dethbucketghostparanormalg5042
    @dethbucketghostparanormalg5042 9 місяців тому +2

    5:24 the straw theory makes my brain short circuit!!

  • @hughjazz4936
    @hughjazz4936 Рік тому +7

    Took me almost 10min to realise I own on of this guys' books. "How not to be wrong". Great read.

  • @K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O
    @K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O Рік тому +6

    Such a great episode. You should film a few more with this guy!

  • @cariboubearmalachy1174
    @cariboubearmalachy1174 Рік тому +9

    The Pythagorean theorem is good for calculating straight distances on a map with grid lines. You count how many vertical and horizontal lines you're crossing and then use Pythagoras to calculate the distance.

  • @Patrick_McLendon
    @Patrick_McLendon 3 дні тому +1

    In defense of the Pythagorean Theorem, if you wan to build anything, like a house or a cornhole game, you need to use this rule.

  • @afonsoferreira5835
    @afonsoferreira5835 Рік тому +45

    5:04 There is one hole on the straw. When you cover the bottom, then the straw has no holes (a water bottle can be deformed into a bowl or a plate, for example)

    • @xraygamer9895
      @xraygamer9895 Рік тому

      What is the fundamental group of the straw?

    • @someguy1ification
      @someguy1ification Рік тому +2

      if you bend a straw too much, then it will have more holes and you won't be able to use it.

    • @redshift0916
      @redshift0916 Рік тому +3

      ​@@xraygamer9895Z. It's either homeomorphic to a solid torus (if you assume it has width) or a cylinder (assuming no width). Either case the fundamental group is Z. It could still have higher dimensional holes but the homology groups are of course all trivial except for dim 0 and 1.

    • @RCG3.
      @RCG3. 7 місяців тому +1

      That's a lie it still has one hole in the top. A hole doesn't have to go completely through an object, if you have a hole punched into your car door on the outside, but not the inside you still have a hole in your car door

    • @afonsoferreira5835
      @afonsoferreira5835 7 місяців тому

      @@RCG3. I'm not sure if I understood, but the car door has many layers and if you count each layer as an object you can have a hole that doesn't go through the whole door. The equivalent to the straw example would be a dent on the car.

  • @ANunes06
    @ANunes06 Рік тому +2

    Arithmetic - Here's a number line
    Algebra - The formal logical rules and language of math
    Geometry - Can you draw it in some logical way and then deconstruct that drawing into an algebraic expression?
    Trigonometry - Geometry is cool, but we're going to spend a year talking about just Triangles but secretly it's about Circles.
    Calculus - Turns out rates of change are related to measured values are related to total accumulation is related to rates of change. Hope you really learned that Trig stuff.
    Linear Algebra - Box of Numbers Means Everything
    Differential Equations - How well did you understand Calculus?
    Statistics - Look at this bell curve for a full semester
    Set Theory - You will understand Set Theory so well that it will hinder your understanding of everything else forever.
    Real Analysis - Nobody really knows

  • @the_koschi
    @the_koschi Рік тому +2143

    The straw answer was confusing. Topologically, the straw clearly has ONE hole, like a bagel. And a bottle has NO holes. Think about it: A bottle is basically just a deformed bowl, and a bowl is just a plate with an higher edge. A plate has no holes.

    • @k-hersey
      @k-hersey Рік тому +153

      There are people who view a straw, rather than as continuous surface, as a set of two spaces: an inside and an outside. The argument for a straw having two holes is that there are two clear connection points between the spaces, at the top and at the bottom. Depends on if you view the straw as a topographical surface or as a household object.

    • @cleverclover7
      @cleverclover7 Рік тому +17

      wait you might be right

    • @averynicebean
      @averynicebean Рік тому +283

      If you dig a hole in the ground, you would call it a hole. Does it go through the Earth? No, but we still call it a hole. Maybe we need better definitions of what is a hole that goes through an object vs a hole that is subtracted volume.

    • @bayleev7494
      @bayleev7494 Рік тому +39

      ​@@k-herseyperhaps more precisely, one can view a straw as a 2-manifold-with-boundary, and the boundary consists of two disjoint circles. those two circles constitute the holes of the straw. however, i do agree that it was confusingly worded; in his effort to avoid jargon, he ended up watering down the discussion and making it seem less certain than it is.

    • @the_koschi
      @the_koschi Рік тому +35

      @@averynicebean I agree, a clear definition would help. The definition in everyday live is not rigorous. It will heavily depend on the actual shape of the subtracted volume, not the total amount, what we call a hole. No one looks at a valley and says "That's a hole!"

  • @GatherYeRosebudsWhileYeMay
    @GatherYeRosebudsWhileYeMay 11 місяців тому +1

    3:29 the absolute mathematician sheldonesque sarcasm makes it for me ❤

  • @stephengreenberg1806
    @stephengreenberg1806 Рік тому +4

    Literally started reading "How Not to Be Wrong- The Power of Mathematical Thinking" 2 days ago and this is the first thing that popped up when I Googled him. Highly recommend the book!

  • @ferryvantichelen6521
    @ferryvantichelen6521 Рік тому +2

    When you pinch one end of the straw it has 0 holes. A hole is only when you go in one end and come out of another. Otherwise it's a dent.
    So a(n unpinched) straw has one hole, like a bagle, but unlike a water bottle that's not broken, that has a dent out of which you can drink. You also wouldn't say a bowl has a hole (although it sounds good).

  • @stephenmdalton
    @stephenmdalton Рік тому +38

    A slight variant of the Pythagorean theorem is very useful in the real world: for a triangle, a^2+b^2=c^2 precisely when the angle opposite c is 90 degrees. This can be used, for example, when pouring house foundations, to ensure the corners are (very close to) right angles. It translates the accuracy of length measurements to accuracy of angle measurement.

    • @NandrewNordrew
      @NandrewNordrew Рік тому

      Thats exactly what the normal theorem is

    • @kalentober-hammell1896
      @kalentober-hammell1896 Рік тому +5

      @@NandrewNordrew Usually I see Pythagorean Theorem presented as "For a right triangle: a^2 +b^2 = c^2", he seems to be saying "If a^2 + b^2 = c^2 then you know the angle opposite c is 90 degrees", which is a slight variation.

  • @salislazy
    @salislazy Рік тому +4

    wired messed up not giving this poor mathematician his chalk and board 😭
    on a serious note, what delightful communication skills this guy has

  • @JustGetitDoneQuilts
    @JustGetitDoneQuilts Рік тому +11

    I'm a quilter. I use the Pythagorean theorem almost every day

    • @yxx_chris_xxy
      @yxx_chris_xxy 11 місяців тому +1

      You also are an expert on knot theory, which is much deeper math than the Pythagorean Theorem.

  • @sixft7in
    @sixft7in 9 місяців тому +2

    The way I think about the number of holes in the straw: Shrink the straw down to a two-dimensional circle. One hole.

  • @arothmanmusic
    @arothmanmusic Рік тому +69

    I always had a much easier time with geometry than algebra. At least with geometry I could get a mental picture of what I was trying to do, whereas algebra was just letters on a piece of paper. Of course, I still didn't do very well in geometry because I wasn't that good with the mathematics portion, but at least I knew when I got the wrong answer even if I wasn't sure why!

    • @BahCatto
      @BahCatto Рік тому +2

      For me it was quite the opposite. In algebra I was always top of my class but then we moved on to geometry. I sucked at geometry because I don't have the "mental picture" that all the other kids claimed to have. When doing algebra I just had to look at the equation and I would be able to write the correct answer almost immediately. Geometry wasn't like that though.

  • @TorQueMoD
    @TorQueMoD 11 місяців тому +1

    I loved your straw answer! It shows that there are multiple ways to look at anything.

  • @drew3399
    @drew3399 Рік тому +18

    This was really good he made geometry sound pretty dope

  • @Ninjaeule97
    @Ninjaeule97 Рік тому +5

    Pythagoras' theorem is incredibly useful when you are trying to make right-angle triangles. Since you generally want a house to have walls at right angles to each other, you can achieve that by just building a decently sized triangle that you can place into the corners. Apparently, not every mason knows this considering the ones that built our house screwed up and built the wall of angle to each other.

  • @goldkomodo26
    @goldkomodo26 Рік тому +22

    "Imagine someone with no sense of purpose."
    Me: Of course I know him, he's me

  • @tarmo4435
    @tarmo4435 Рік тому +3

    There is one hole at regular straw. If other side is plugged then there are no holes since if you start cut the straw shorter you end up plane. Also you can tie a string throught the hole of regular straw, but not plugged one.

  • @Dasyati
    @Dasyati Рік тому +17

    If you've ever been walking down the side of an empty street, and you jaywalked diagonally to the other side instead of going straight across and down because it made for less walking overall to your destination... guess what, you used the Pythagorean theorem

    • @vincevvn
      @vincevvn Рік тому +5

      No you didn’t. You just walked across the street. You didn’t use any theorem at all.

    • @ttmfndng201
      @ttmfndng201 Рік тому

      not really. you're just using the fact that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line (in euclidean space)

    • @Dasyati
      @Dasyati Рік тому

      @@ttmfndng201 phblttbtt Euclidean who? You'll never catch me using THAT daily :P

    • @Flintstoned223
      @Flintstoned223 3 місяці тому +1

      bro is onto nothing😭

    • @Monika-hw7ey
      @Monika-hw7ey 3 місяці тому

      no, you used the triangle inequality theorem if you walked diagonally for less walking distance. you would use the pythagorean theorem if you wanna know how much distance you walked and would have walked

  • @LoveFreak18
    @LoveFreak18 Рік тому +3

    3:06 "oh man the wife threw me out again"
    a few calculations later: a squared plus b squared, carry the one
    "oh shoot I forgot our anniversary again"

  • @BeardedNerdSE
    @BeardedNerdSE Рік тому +4

    Pythagoras is very handy for figuring out neat ways to build Lego in an interesting angle and still keep to the required strict dimensons of a piece. The recent Tranquil Garden set uses this to place the supports of a building five studs apart.

  • @camillaim
    @camillaim 11 місяців тому +1

    pythagorean theorem is real clutch in d&d when you have to calculate distance with an enemy who's in the air.

  • @Sunflowersarepretty
    @Sunflowersarepretty Рік тому +41

    The straw hole one is crazy. My answer was two holes tho. Also I wish I could understand shapes in a 4 dimension. It makes no sense to me.

    • @travelsandbooks
      @travelsandbooks Рік тому +3

      If you imagine time as the fourth dimension that works to my brain. The cube exists now and in a second and in two seconds. You can kind of imagine it moving through time.

    • @laksitowp
      @laksitowp Рік тому +2

      @@travelsandbooks I still don't understand it :(

    • @yinjohn23
      @yinjohn23 Рік тому

      How I think about shapes in 4 dimensions is by thinking about shapes in 3 dimensions, and hoping that similar reasoning carry over.

  • @KeiFlox
    @KeiFlox 10 місяців тому +2

    First time I've understood a hypercube!! Excellent presenter.

  • @victormanjarinsala2253
    @victormanjarinsala2253 Рік тому +15

    Why hexagons? Why hexagons??? Well, because hexagon is the bestagon!

    • @yeahitsscott
      @yeahitsscott 7 місяців тому +2

      The other ones just go on and on and onagon.

  • @user-ot5bs7po2h
    @user-ot5bs7po2h Місяць тому

    given all the other better UA-cam mathematecians, this person is now below average. 5 yrs ago, this person would be the best math teacher I would have come across.

  • @aqwaa3057
    @aqwaa3057 Рік тому +8

    Pretty sure he is the first non-german Person, that i've ever heard to pronounce the name "Einstein" 100% correctly. Neat!

  • @KuroroSama42
    @KuroroSama42 9 місяців тому +2

    2:50 How to use the Pythagorean theorem to solve a problem in your life?
    Simple: Build something. A shed maybe. Then put a corner beam as support. How long does that corner beam need to be? sqrt(a^2+b^2), where a and b are the 2 side it's connecting to.
    If your problem isn't solved by a shed, maybe you can build something else that might be able to use some kind of corner bracing.

  • @BenjamintheTortoise
    @BenjamintheTortoise Рік тому +6

    This was a good one!! He's an excellent communicator and super engaging! Loved this ❤️😊

  • @MrBLAAHHHHHHHHHHH
    @MrBLAAHHHHHHHHHHH 11 місяців тому +2

    The Arithmetic of Holes sounds like something Lisa Ann would star in.

  • @onkelpappkov2666
    @onkelpappkov2666 Рік тому +2

    11:31 - My German brain perked up when he pronounced Einstein the German way. For a second, it felt unreal; I had expected the American "ine stine" variant and had to rewind to check if I was bullshitting myself.
    Strange how that works.

    • @tirlio
      @tirlio 4 місяці тому

      haha totally the same. I had to check the comments to see if somebody else noticed it. Refreshing pronunciation. I hope it was intentional :D

  • @shiver186
    @shiver186 26 днів тому

    2:33 is so real, I'm horrible at everything above basic geometry but really good at seeing the solutions for algebra

  • @AlexanderLepges
    @AlexanderLepges Рік тому +3

    The straw has one hole by definition of topology. There is no wiggle room here.
    The bottle example is really interesting and if you used it right it would have proofed the point. The bottle has ZERO holes (when you remove the cap). It is the same if punch a "hole" in a baloon. what you get is a surface with STILL zero holes. The bottle can be put flat with the rim of the opening to become the OUTER edge of a disc. So when you punch a hole in the bottom of the bottle you add ONE hole - and this bottle has ONE hole - as the straw has.
    Fun side view: A trouser has TWO holes. If you remove the height of the trousers to "zero" you have the two holes of the legs and the upper part of the trousers become the outer edge of a disc. Topology is precise in these definitions. I recomend checking out Matt Parker on this topic.

    • @ttmfndng201
      @ttmfndng201 Рік тому +1

      "by definition of topology" that's the problem.
      Even though when talking about topology a straw undeniably has 1 hole, people aren't usually talking about topology when talking about straws.
      for example, if you asked most people how many holes a bottle has, they would probably say one.

    • @SimeonDenk
      @SimeonDenk 10 місяців тому

      Enlightening! Someone recently asked how many holes a T-shirt has, and I said 6. My reasoning was:
      1 - neck to waist
      2 - neck to left arm
      3 - neck to right arm
      4 - waist to left arm
      5 - waist to right arm
      6 - left arm to right arm
      Thus, the number of holes would be the number of openings (n):
      (n-1) + (n-2) ... + (n-n)
      But with your stretching out revelation, I can see that it is openings (n):
      n-1. A T-shirt has 3 holes.

  • @Zzyzzyzzs
    @Zzyzzyzzs 10 місяців тому +1

    Pythagoras's theorem manifests most simply in how we navigate. You can see it in action when you have a block that's an open field and most people, rather than walking two sides of the block, cut diagonally across it to meet the other side, because we intuitively know that is a shorter distance. And if you extrapolate that in wider space, what you realise is that we intuitively recognise that walking a series of hypotenuses (i.e. radial lines plotted against imaginary right angles) is actually the most efficient way to navigate, which is why, as much as rectangular city blocks seem like the most efficient use of space for building, neat squares and right angles are actually very unnatural to us and a radial city plan is the most efficient for travel.

  • @zoltanlukacs5059
    @zoltanlukacs5059 Рік тому +4

    I live in eastern Europe, I had a friend over, and he asked how many inches big my new monitor is. I could not remember it, but then I remembered the Pythagorean theorem, and that 1 inch is roughly about 2.5 cm-s.
    So I took my measuring tape, measured the sides, did the quick math, and could tell him it's 27".
    Could I have just measured the distance across? Yes
    Would that have been fun? No

  • @SteveBakerIsHere
    @SteveBakerIsHere Рік тому +2

    Hypercubes are used "for real" in many applications. In computer graphics we have chips that connect to four other chips...so if you connect up a lot of these chips to get more and more performance - you place them at the vertices of a hypercube.

  • @Kazutoification
    @Kazutoification Рік тому +15

    One hole, two openings.

    • @Gimmickvr
      @Gimmickvr 7 місяців тому

      A donut has 2 openings?

  • @BigOttomatic
    @BigOttomatic 11 місяців тому +2

    New application for Pascal's triangle learned. Cool. Only one I knew was coefficients for binomial exponential expansion

  • @lptotheskull
    @lptotheskull 8 місяців тому +4

    6:35 I find it pretty funny that we call it the golden "ratio" despite the fact that it is, almost by definition, *irrational*.

    • @idlesquadron7283
      @idlesquadron7283 7 місяців тому

      pi is also said as a ratio too (unless im missing something)

  • @TheZanzaroni
    @TheZanzaroni 5 місяців тому

    I am an engineer, and yes I use the pythagorean theroem to make the odd calculation but I use it qute more often in a much simpler form:
    If want to reach the other corner on a block and you may have 2 options:
    1. Walk the sides of the square (block), or if possible
    2. Walk straight diagonally
    If you call the sides of the square a, b and the diagonal c you can do some pretty simple math to prove that (a+b)^2 > a^2+b^2, or (a+b)^2 > c^2, or that if you have the chance to take the diagonal, you can walk less, saving time.

  • @arablues4142
    @arablues4142 Рік тому +64

    A straw has 0 holes, its just a warped plane

    • @internetcutie
      @internetcutie 9 місяців тому +8

      a warped plane that formed a hole by definition

    • @Bangin0utWest
      @Bangin0utWest 9 місяців тому +3

      The dictionary says a hole is a small and unpleasant place 😂😂

    • @arablues4142
      @arablues4142 9 місяців тому

      @@Bangin0utWest 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Bangin0utWest
      @Bangin0utWest 9 місяців тому +1

      @@arablues4142 so a straw IS a hole 😂😂

    • @thekingofsevens7358
      @thekingofsevens7358 7 місяців тому

      A straw isnt a plane though. It is in 3 dimensions.

  • @-Subtle-
    @-Subtle- Рік тому +1

    Pythagorean theorum is used to build houses.
    3,4,5 triangles. I don't want a house that's not built with them.

  • @Pershath08
    @Pershath08 9 місяців тому +3

    I actually used the pythagorean theorem in real life! We built a shed in my backyard. Did this for each corner paver to make sure they were straight.

  • @RaDeus87
    @RaDeus87 9 місяців тому

    I'm still proud of the time I used the Pythagoran theorem to drill a hole through a wall, it was for a fiberoptics duct.
    My co-worker just said sure go ahead, thinking it was just a waste of time.
    So I did my measurements of the wall (thickness and drop to the target), did the math and marked of a point on drill (the drill was the hypotenuse) and then used a ruler to measure the distance of that point to the wall so that I got the right angle.
    The triangle that I created with the drill and ruler was a smaller version of the triangle that the desired path was taking through the wall.
    I nailed the target exactly, my co-worker just looked at me and said that we'll be using my method going forward 😅

  • @12thDecember
    @12thDecember Рік тому +1

    Loved this episode! I didn't take geometry in high school; Ellenberg's knowledge, insight and enthusiasm make me want to take an online course to see what I missed.

  • @acustomer7216
    @acustomer7216 Рік тому +8

    Yay geometry!! The only math class that made sense to me!!

    • @m.moonsz
      @m.moonsz Рік тому

      How about differential equations???

  • @AlexP253
    @AlexP253 11 місяців тому

    Great video!! Two points…
    1. Isn’t your bright green “square” really just a very flat rectangle? 😃
    2. Would love to have seen a discussion about Penrose Rectangles.

  • @MessinAbout80
    @MessinAbout80 Рік тому +8

    I’ve never heard anyone describe Euclid as “a guy who lived in North Africa” …

  • @HildeWereldGames
    @HildeWereldGames 10 місяців тому

    I have severe discalculia and understood almost nothing but still somehow enjoyed this, thanks Jordan!

  • @kingarth0r
    @kingarth0r Рік тому +4

    Jordan is type of guy to make easy exams and hard homeworks

  • @SupiSuki
    @SupiSuki 2 місяці тому

    As an artist, I never realized how much geometry I would have to incorporate into composition and form, it has to be proportional to real life, the fibbonaci fuckin square is a game changer

  • @nexisle7508
    @nexisle7508 Рік тому +4

    7:50
    Because hexagons are the bestagons

  • @devschlong
    @devschlong Місяць тому

    3:27 An example is if you wanted to "square" a square or rectangle, think laying out the foundation of a building, you can use whats called the "3-4-5 rule" which is an implementation of the Pythagorean theorem. Probably not something everyone does in real life but it's one example that can be applied to "squaring" a rectangle or square.

  • @MartyD
    @MartyD Рік тому +5

    hated doing geometry proofs in high school 😅😢😂

  • @thejimbruce
    @thejimbruce 11 місяців тому +1

    Another way to think of the straw is it has no holes, if you think of holes as something that isn't naturally there. A straw is a particular shape that allows you to use it for drinking water or other things. If it had a hole in it, it would leak out the sides. Pants can be thought of as not having holes unless they are ripped. Or having holes if you think of them as the place you put your legs.

    • @SimeonDenk
      @SimeonDenk 10 місяців тому

      In topology, whether a hole is natural or not is irrelevant. A straw has 1 hole, which is how it transmits the liquid. If you try to drink through something with no holes, like a baseball, you would fail.

  • @NFITC1
    @NFITC1 Рік тому +6

    The answer to the straw problem is it is no longer a straw if pinched and a bottle is no longer a bottle with a hole in the bottom.
    And thank you for mentioning honeycombs are actually circular when created. They settle into hexagonal shapes because of how tightly the bees pack them in and how flexible the material is initially.

    • @RikFTK
      @RikFTK Рік тому

      A straw with a pinched bottom has completely lost it's function. Is it still a straw if it can't do what a straw is supposed to do? At this point, it becomes a philosophical question.
      Another interesting question regarding this: of you hang up a spinning disk and the shadow of the disk is exactly under it, is the shadow also spinning or is it stationary?

  • @vebonczynski
    @vebonczynski 7 місяців тому

    I'm in love with this guy and his passion and his demeanor

  • @BobSmith-fx9sz
    @BobSmith-fx9sz Рік тому +4

    5:09 The straw thing just depends on your definition of a hole. If you define it as an opening through something, like a hole in your shirt, then a straw has only one hole. If it doesn't need to perforate, if a pit in the ground is a hole, then a straw has two holes.
    This probably rifts off the word 'hole' having confusingly similar but strictly different meanings in language and in maths.

    • @septictopix4797
      @septictopix4797 Рік тому +1

      I disagree. According to the dictionary, a hole is 'an opening through something" or "an area where something is missing". Since a straw is simply a tube (a bent plane whose edges meet), the continuous surface of it has no openings or areas where anything is missing. If it did, you wouldn't be able to create a vacuum. Therefore it has zero holes.

  • @JordonPatrickMears11211988
    @JordonPatrickMears11211988 Рік тому +2

    I used Pythagoras in the army. It made going through bncoc incredibly easy because i didnt have to manually gind the distance between points. I had it exact everytime.

  • @xliquidflames
    @xliquidflames Рік тому +14

    During a debate with a debunker, a flat earther was asked, "If a triangle has sides 1, 1, and 1, what are its angles?" The flat earther said, "One what?"

    • @kvonation8852
      @kvonation8852 Рік тому +6

      60° but I’m not understanding the joke or the ppint

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 Рік тому

      @@kvonation8852the triangle cannot exist in Euclidean geometry (flat surface)

    • @metallsnubben
      @metallsnubben Рік тому +9

      @@duckymomo7935 I mean it's just an equilateral triangle?

  • @Gingerwalker.
    @Gingerwalker. 6 місяців тому

    He actually makes it sound interesting. His passion for it shows.

  • @BruceCinema1337
    @BruceCinema1337 Рік тому +5

    6:00 How many holes in a bottle? Topologically speaking there are 0 holes.