hehe :) well, reviewing is a subjective matter,. We tried to find shoes that showed a bit more new features then the Adrenaline line did this year. We all know the Adrenaline works well as a stability shoe. Hope you have a great day Sam. Lars
Thanks for this great overview for orientation. I can start from here. Have Altra Rivera 2 and Sc. Kinvara 13 and Nike Free Run 2 and Altra Lone Peak 6 but need to add a longer distance running shoe (14 km+) for my rotation - maybe with a slight non zero drop to relax my feet a bit more. NB Vongo and Sc. Tempus might be worth a closer look...
Great review, thanks. I have the Tempus and I am wondering whether to use it as a Jack of all trades or to pair it with another shoe for slower runs. I'm leaning towards the Vongo or the Horizon. Which one do you feel would make the most sense paired with the Tempus ? Thanks
Would you say the Tempus is a good do-it-all daily trainer and everyday wear (walking, standing) shoe? Especially for someone with wide feet looking for moderate support? I've owned the Kayano, but they feel too heavy and uninspiring. I own the Saucony Endorphin Speed 2, which has been perfect for cushion/bounce and great for running - but not enough support for everyday wear imo. Would love to hear your thoughts! Thank you!
If the Endorphin Speed 2 fits you foot, I think the Tempus will do the same. But I would not say that the Tempus is a wide shoe. Kind Regards Malte, RunningXpert
thanks for the review, I have significant flat feet looking for a pair of walking shoes that is supportive but also comfortable as I stand and walk for long hours. which ones would you recommend the most? thanks (hokas are too narrow for me)
Which one would you reccomend for crossfit style training? Where you'd be doing weight lifting and shorter runs? Also, which shoes have a nice lock around the forefoot but a spacious toe box? Thanks :)
Hey! I would use a lighter shoe, like the Saucony Tempus or the Hoka Arahi if it was up to me. A soft and heavier shoe when lifting can be too comfy and too warm IMO. Lars
I might be the only Tempus-Lover who doesn't think the Tempus is more than a great daily trainer. They feel too flat for tempo/racing. Maybe I need to try again now that I have a 100 miles in them but I'm not ready to give up my Zoom Fly 4, Hoka Carbon X2, or Endorphin Pro 2 for "stable" tempo/marathon pace work. And definitely not the Kinvara for Speed (RIP DS Trainer). But goodbye Kayano! haha
Hey Diago, If you want a faster and firmer ride then go for the Hoka arahi 6. If you want a softer and more cushioned ride, go with the Kayano 29. Lars
Mexican greetings! I recently found I over pronate when I run, do basically I had to redo my running rotation...I have the Pegasus 38, UA Velociti 2, ASICS Gel Nimbus 23... Could you please help me build a 3 show rotation to use for: recovery runs, tempo runs and long runs and marathon racing? TIA 👍🏽
Hey EvilTeacher! The main question is. Do you like running in the shoes you have now? If yes, then having some degrees of movement in the ankle shouldn't dictate what you run in. The most important thing is that you find the shoes that you love to run in. We are working on a very good article on this that is based on the latest research. So remember to follow us on runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/ to read it. Lars
@@RunningXpert Already on it and waiting for the article! Problem is, I do get some pain and discomfort in my knee specially after my long runs...should I just try the shoes they recommended for a bit to see how they do? Trial and error can't be beat right?
Hey, so there is a debate about whether there is any proof of stability being a good thing. But more on that in the article. What is important is that you listen to your body. If you have knee pain it is a clear indication that you are over-training, then you need to reduce the load that gives that knee pain. This could be done by running less, substituting a session for biking, etc. That important thing though is to keep running to put some load on your body. Only reduce the overall load, and give the body a chance to adapt. As an example: I had knee pain and could only run about 4k without getting knee pain (I usually run longer). But I could run 4k everyday. So I did. And then after a couple of weeks I could run 5k everyday. And so on. Be aware of your body, it is a remarkable thing, it can adapt to a lot, but it can also be overstrained. This is much more important than what shoes you are wearing. Now if support just feels good, then go all out on stability shoes. Because a shoe should first of all feel great. Lars
The Saucony Tempus has a black and white look, and it is light, which I like when training in the gym. But if you like a softer shoe, then the Vongo could be a good choice as well. You probably won't go wrong with either of the shoes in this video. Lars
I have both Tempus and Vongo v5 home at the moment, walking and trying to figure out which to keep... Feels pretty different, Vongo is defently softer in front foot. Tempus feels a bit more "front leaning". I dont have much experince in running, but trying again :) Using my old Ultra Boost ST at the moment. I usualy land mid foot. Help me pick between Tempus and Vongo V5 :)
Hi mate, any further experience between NB Vongo v5 and Saucony Tempus after 1/2 year? Would you mind sharing a few words? Because I am facing the same decision. (70 kg 5:20-6:30 pace, 9-21 km per run 2-3 x per week, narrow mid-foot with wider toe requirement, normal arch)
Long time wave horizon wearer (currently got the 4s). Seeing some good deals on the NB Vongo 5. Would you say they're comparable or better off sticking with the mizunos?
Hey Josh! They are both great shoes, the Vongo is a bit easier and lighter to run with, but the horizon has more plushness and comfort. So it all depends on what you like. Lars
Hey Justin. There aren’t that many trail shoes that have medial support. But maybe we could do a video where stability is taken more into the equation in regard to trail shoes. Lars
Hey Alvir, I would suggest you try a couple of of shoes that have a nice cushioned midsole and a firm heel counter for some stability. Some people who have plantar fasciitis like a softer shoe, and some need more stiffness for the arch to have more rest. So it entirely depends on what you need. Some people have also had success with buying an insert that they can use to lift the arch and give it some much needed rest. But again, that is not everyones cup of tea either. You are welcome to ask more questions. Hope you get well as soon as possible. Lars
@@RunningXpert Thx for the reply tried some of the shoes on this video but some of them is not available in my location. What do you guys think about Brooks adrenaline GTS
No they are not. Most of them are so different that it wouldn’t make sense to rate the against each other. Arahi - light and firmer Tempus - light and springy Kayano - soft and bouncy Horizon - very soft Vongo - versatile daily trainer with elastic upper Paradigm - soft and zero drop When shoes are this different I would see what they can do and choose the right one for me 😀 Hope this helped Lars
Hey Rishi. We were considering Brooks Glycerin GTS, as we like to emphasize the innovative running shoes. And the Glycerin came with a new DNA Loft v3 material which we thought were exciting. Lars
@@RunningXpert thank you for the reply, but I have flat feet and severe over pronation, which shoe would you suggest? Recently I have purchased brooks beast, they are too stiff for me.
Stability shoes for overpronators are the biggest con shoe companies came up with. Scientific studies already showed it made no difference even if you wear neutral shoes. Overpronation is just a normal human variation. Next they will come up with different hats for different hair colors bcos certain hair color needs special types of hats. It is more dumb when you realise that it is very common for people to have one foot neutral and the other foot overpronating. So do you wear asymmetric shoes?
Hey Parrot. We agree with you that the stability aspect has been overemphasized and we discuss it in the article here: www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/pronation We are also trying to look at the issue from several angles, as we want people to buy the shoes that they find to be best suited for themselves. And some people actually like having more support around the ankle, and find it more comfortable than having more freedom of movement. I run in both stability and neutral shoes, and like the variation. Hope you are having a nice day. Lars
Hey Rajni, I'm sorry you feel this way. The Adrenaline GTS is a great shoe, and it could be on the list. But as this is a subjective exercise, lists never can be perfect for all people. I hope you are getting some great milage from your Adrenaline! Lars
Excited about The Tempus because it looks like a stability shoe anyone would want to wear.
Yeah, I have also heard from a lot of neutral runners, who also enjoy the shoe greatly. Hope you have a nice day.
Lars
I have the Gel Kayano 29 and they're amazing.
you cannot talk about stability shoes and ignore Brooks adrenaline’s. insane.
hehe :) well, reviewing is a subjective matter,. We tried to find shoes that showed a bit more new features then the Adrenaline line did this year. We all know the Adrenaline works well as a stability shoe.
Hope you have a great day Sam.
Lars
Thanks for this great overview for orientation. I can start from here. Have Altra Rivera 2 and Sc. Kinvara 13 and Nike Free Run 2 and Altra Lone Peak 6 but need to add a longer distance running shoe (14 km+) for my rotation - maybe with a slight non zero drop to relax my feet a bit more. NB Vongo and Sc. Tempus might be worth a closer look...
Ok so which would you say would be the best overall for the average runner who needs stability
Great review, thanks. I have the Tempus and I am wondering whether to use it as a Jack of all trades or to pair it with another shoe for slower runs. I'm leaning towards the Vongo or the Horizon. Which one do you feel would make the most sense paired with the Tempus ? Thanks
This video is the reason I bought the Saucony Tempus. They are my favorite shoes! I have gotten back into running. I am so very happy! thank you! 🤍
Which one for Marathon guys?
Would you say the Tempus is a good do-it-all daily trainer and everyday wear (walking, standing) shoe? Especially for someone with wide feet looking for moderate support? I've owned the Kayano, but they feel too heavy and uninspiring. I own the Saucony Endorphin Speed 2, which has been perfect for cushion/bounce and great for running - but not enough support for everyday wear imo. Would love to hear your thoughts! Thank you!
If the Endorphin Speed 2 fits you foot, I think the Tempus will do the same. But I would not say that the Tempus is a wide shoe. Kind Regards Malte, RunningXpert
thanks for the review, I have significant flat feet looking for a pair of walking shoes that is supportive but also comfortable as I stand and walk for long hours. which ones would you recommend the most? thanks (hokas are too narrow for me)
Any thoughts on GST adrenaline 22?
Hey Ella. It's a great, steady stability shoe that offers comfort and support. A great choice if you want a dependable shoe for daily training.
Lars
Which one would you reccomend for crossfit style training? Where you'd be doing weight lifting and shorter runs?
Also, which shoes have a nice lock around the forefoot but a spacious toe box?
Thanks :)
Hey!
I would use a lighter shoe, like the Saucony Tempus or the Hoka Arahi if it was up to me. A soft and heavier shoe when lifting can be too comfy and too warm IMO.
Lars
HOKA: I believed that there was more stability in the Gaviota
That is true, and we find the Arahi to be a perfect blend of stability and lightness. Hope you are having a great day.
Lars
@@RunningXpert Noted with thanks.
I might be the only Tempus-Lover who doesn't think the Tempus is more than a great daily trainer. They feel too flat for tempo/racing. Maybe I need to try again now that I have a 100 miles in them but I'm not ready to give up my Zoom Fly 4, Hoka Carbon X2, or Endorphin Pro 2 for "stable" tempo/marathon pace work. And definitely not the Kinvara for Speed (RIP DS Trainer). But goodbye Kayano! haha
kayano is not good?
asics gel kayano 29 vs hoka arahi 6 which is the best??
Hey Diago, If you want a faster and firmer ride then go for the Hoka arahi 6. If you want a softer and more cushioned ride, go with the Kayano 29.
Lars
Mexican greetings! I recently found I over pronate when I run, do basically I had to redo my running rotation...I have the Pegasus 38, UA Velociti 2, ASICS Gel Nimbus 23... Could you please help me build a 3 show rotation to use for: recovery runs, tempo runs and long runs and marathon racing? TIA 👍🏽
Hey EvilTeacher!
The main question is. Do you like running in the shoes you have now? If yes, then having some degrees of movement in the ankle shouldn't dictate what you run in. The most important thing is that you find the shoes that you love to run in. We are working on a very good article on this that is based on the latest research. So remember to follow us on runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/ to read it.
Lars
@@RunningXpert Already on it and waiting for the article! Problem is, I do get some pain and discomfort in my knee specially after my long runs...should I just try the shoes they recommended for a bit to see how they do? Trial and error can't be beat right?
Hey, so there is a debate about whether there is any proof of stability being a good thing. But more on that in the article.
What is important is that you listen to your body. If you have knee pain it is a clear indication that you are over-training, then you need to reduce the load that gives that knee pain.
This could be done by running less, substituting a session for biking, etc. That important thing though is to keep running to put some load on your body. Only reduce the overall load, and give the body a chance to adapt. As an example: I had knee pain and could only run about 4k without getting knee pain (I usually run longer). But I could run 4k everyday. So I did. And then after a couple of weeks I could run 5k everyday. And so on. Be aware of your body, it is a remarkable thing, it can adapt to a lot, but it can also be overstrained.
This is much more important than what shoes you are wearing.
Now if support just feels good, then go all out on stability shoes. Because a shoe should first of all feel great.
Lars
@@RunningXpert Now I'm definitely anxious for the article! Thanks a lot for your super complete response! Grass on your videos and support! 🙌
I can’t decide. Need a pronation shoe. Ladies. Ones that I can wear in the gym doing weights too. Help me decide. I want black and white ideally
The Saucony Tempus has a black and white look, and it is light, which I like when training in the gym. But if you like a softer shoe, then the Vongo could be a good choice as well. You probably won't go wrong with either of the shoes in this video.
Lars
I have both Tempus and Vongo v5 home at the moment, walking and trying to figure out which to keep...
Feels pretty different, Vongo is defently softer in front foot. Tempus feels a bit more "front leaning". I dont have much experince in running, but trying again :) Using my old Ultra Boost ST at the moment.
I usualy land mid foot. Help me pick between Tempus and Vongo V5 :)
Both are awesome shoes. I would choose the one that you think fits you best. But they work great as a pair as well.
Lars
What did you decide ?
Hi mate, any further experience between NB Vongo v5 and Saucony Tempus after 1/2 year? Would you mind sharing a few words? Because I am facing the same decision. (70 kg 5:20-6:30 pace, 9-21 km per run 2-3 x per week, narrow mid-foot with wider toe requirement, normal arch)
@@RunningXpert 😅
Long time wave horizon wearer (currently got the 4s). Seeing some good deals on the NB Vongo 5. Would you say they're comparable or better off sticking with the mizunos?
Hey Josh! They are both great shoes, the Vongo is a bit easier and lighter to run with, but the horizon has more plushness and comfort. So it all depends on what you like.
Lars
Any stability trail recommendations???
Hey Justin. There aren’t that many trail shoes that have medial support. But maybe we could do a video where stability is taken more into the equation in regard to trail shoes.
Lars
@@RunningXpert I'd love a video like that.
I have plantar fascia and looking for better ride for my dialy walks. Which one do you recommend?
Hey Alvir,
I would suggest you try a couple of of shoes that have a nice cushioned midsole and a firm heel counter for some stability. Some people who have plantar fasciitis like a softer shoe, and some need more stiffness for the arch to have more rest. So it entirely depends on what you need. Some people have also had success with buying an insert that they can use to lift the arch and give it some much needed rest. But again, that is not everyones cup of tea either.
You are welcome to ask more questions. Hope you get well as soon as possible.
Lars
@@RunningXpert Thx for the reply tried some of the shoes on this video but some of them is not available in my location. What do you guys think about Brooks adrenaline GTS
@@alvirgallardo9791Check out Glycerin GTS 20 if you want a softer midsole than Adrenaline and need stability.
Are these ranked chronologically?Or can you rate the best to worst in order?
No they are not. Most of them are so different that it wouldn’t make sense to rate the against each other.
Arahi - light and firmer
Tempus - light and springy
Kayano - soft and bouncy
Horizon - very soft
Vongo - versatile daily trainer with elastic upper
Paradigm - soft and zero drop
When shoes are this different I would see what they can do and choose the right one for me 😀
Hope this helped
Lars
What about brooks beast?
Hey Rishi. We were considering Brooks Glycerin GTS, as we like to emphasize the innovative running shoes. And the Glycerin came with a new DNA Loft v3 material which we thought were exciting.
Lars
@@RunningXpert thank you for the reply, but I have flat feet and severe over pronation, which shoe would you suggest? Recently I have purchased brooks beast, they are too stiff for me.
Stability shoes for overpronators are the biggest con shoe companies came up with. Scientific studies already showed it made no difference even if you wear neutral shoes. Overpronation is just a normal human variation. Next they will come up with different hats for different hair colors bcos certain hair color needs special types of hats.
It is more dumb when you realise that it is very common for people to have one foot neutral and the other foot overpronating. So do you wear asymmetric shoes?
Hey Parrot. We agree with you that the stability aspect has been overemphasized and we discuss it in the article here: www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/pronation
We are also trying to look at the issue from several angles, as we want people to buy the shoes that they find to be best suited for themselves. And some people actually like having more support around the ankle, and find it more comfortable than having more freedom of movement. I run in both stability and neutral shoes, and like the variation.
Hope you are having a nice day.
Lars
Crap video! Brooks adrenaline’s is not here in the list
Hey Rajni,
I'm sorry you feel this way. The Adrenaline GTS is a great shoe, and it could be on the list. But as this is a subjective exercise, lists never can be perfect for all people.
I hope you are getting some great milage from your Adrenaline!
Lars