You said right ! 3000-4000 rpm is best for himalayan cuz i’m riding the all new 2021 bs6 himalayan... when I was going through running in period I tried to follow the speed rules given in user manual but it didn’t work and engine used to luge. So anyone who owns a new himalayan try to ride your bike between 3000-4000 rpm at 60kmph for first 500 kms then after first service you can take your bike to 80 kmph.... Then as soon as you complete 2000 km on your bike the running period gets completed and now you can go beyond 80 kmph 😄 Happy Riding ❤️
Listing max speeds makes no sense, RPMs are what one should care for, you are right. And they should be neither too low nor too high. Around mid range is fine, with a lot of leeway.
i did the same for my bs6. Albeit after 500km i took it occasionally up to 5k+ rpm for brief moments after 1000kms to break in the engine further. Worked like a charm, do not use full synthetic engine oil by the way, semi synthetic works best for this machine. After 2000kms i also went on full blown 3 hour long rides at 110kmph constant, pretty smooth imho.
Hi! Can you tell me about your review on the semi-synthetic oil, also how long does it last, i also stay in korea and the winter is very harsh here it goes till -20°C so please if you can give me some advice
Yes I agree engine is lugging at those rpm ,best the way you did it bud ,time getting on next week will be doing the same as you,john in north wales UK,like your bids happy riding bud.
I the old days bikes needed overhauling quite often. The policy then was to run them in by trying to keep the engine in it's midrange of power, not too low to make the engine labour and not too high to make too much heat.
I think the importance of the running in period is highly overrated. That said, you are wright, running to low revs is not the wright way to go. The fortnine-guy did a very good video on it.
I agree with your take on the rpm levels. I don’t know why manufacturers use speed instead of rpms in their guidelines. I only have 380 miles on my Himalayan and plan to keep the speed and rpms down until after 500 miles. Another strange guideline in the owner’s manual on page 3: use only plain water to wash the bike. Detergents will “cause discoloration and damage the paint. Do not polish your motorcycle as it will increase the gloss level and damage the paint”. Take care of yourself and ride safe.
IMHO there is truth in polishing the bike, polishing means taking off some amount of UV protective surface on painted elements. But as this is a adventure bike some slight “adv patina” could look good on Himalayan.😉
I totally agree with you. My 2020 Interceptor 650 has the same very conservative Running In Period gear speed limitations. I try not to run high RPMs in each gear but their limits just don't feel good. I did comply with 4,000rpm maximum 0-500 miles. Now 6,000rpm maximum until 1,000 miles. But the low speed limitations last until 1,2000 miles. Having to shift to 2nd gear at 10mph, especially going uphill, just feels bad. Get well soon my friend.
Thanks for a great video! Agree totally about the rpms. We just got our Himalayans and have put 1800 Kms on them just getting them home. We were running between 3000 and 4000 rpms occasionally going a bit over 4000. Both bikes seemed happy with it.
Your advice on engine lagging is correct. I just got my brand new Himalayan two days ago. I shift gears around 4500rpm and ride it at 4000rpm the engine will tell you were it's best.
Thanks for this - picking up my new Himalayan tomorrow and was taken back by the Kph table (????) - I had already decided that 3000-4000rpm should be the correct measure. Labouring an engine at low rpm will surely do more damage ? Enjoying your informative videos.
I've already topped out at 5500 rpm on 5th gear well before the 500km mark for sustained periods on the freeway because, well, I have to. I understand to never red-line it in its early days, but I'm easily averaging 4500rpm when cruising and I havne't heard a good argument against that yet.
take some rest Vlad! Hope you get better soon! BTW, lots of youtubers use sunglasses, like Casey Neistat or Matt Farrah... They look good and if you read helps out with the video quality... awesome job as always! Matte sunglasses are great btw... cheers!
Thank you! I'm finally completely recovered. I was thinking to read using teleprompter, but that didn't work for me, because I haven't enjoyed the process. But I will definitely use glasses outside.
i just bought a 2021 himalayan and recently got its 300 mile check up. i didn't follow speed as much as rpm but I was not precise. we will see what happens lol
I hope your eye condition improves soon 😎 👍 In my opinion, you are right to not let the engine labour at low revs, so I’m certain your Himalayan will be fine too 😁
I found the same issue. Trying to keep the rpms at 3000 is best for me. I have now put on only 90 k. Does anyone know what they mean by using the B1 manual button on cold start ups? Looks like the choke button to me.
That would be different story in this case. That's written in User Manual 1. During the first 2000 Kms of run, do not exceed the speed limits as shown in the table below.
Vladimir, well done and very good detected!! A new engine is to ride in the rpm - area, where the engine must not hard work. It's not everytime the gear or the rpm, its also to look were the bike is driving, downhill or uphill, alone or with two persons... when you have the feeling, the engine is working easy and not out of power, so you are in the right dimensions to have an engine with a long live. To low rpm ist also a low oilpressure!! And a long time fully gas is the same: not good for a new engine, there is about 70 or 80 % in high gear the maximum for the first 2.000 kilometers or so, and later, when this ride-in-time is finished, its the same: let the engine run in that range, wehre it hasn't hard to work. Try to ride on pressure in the right gear about 3.000 or 4.500 rpm...., and without pressure use the highest gear fo good rolling, from 2.000 - to 2.500 or so, downhill or wind from backwards... And if it is necessary, use the full power and the maximu RPM to finish the speeding and taking the next gear (or overtaking others, or fillig a gap, or to climb a mountain or driving on gravel grounds...... Have a good time Greets from Germany Peter
My friend accidently shifted to 1st gear from 2nd around 30 km/hr speed thinking that it was 3rd gear, on his new bullet meteor 350, which is in running in period. (His previous bike was pulsar and he accidently followed that gear pattern) However the bike is performing as the same as before but we wish to know which part of his bike may be affected from this foolish act! Please reply
I'm not an expert neither mechanic, but IMHO you guys don't have to worry about consequences of that, I usually brake by engine on first gear almost the same way from 3rd to 2nd on 50-60km/h and 20-30km/h on 1st gear.
One of the break in tasks is to set the rings to the walls of the cylinder. This is what the low RPM lugging in the early kilometers does. No worry. Stay gentle on the throttle in this range. Take a look at. ua-cam.com/video/u74jYkItdD8/v-deo.html
Completely agree with Ryan in his video to avoid lugging and avoid higher rpms. Engine braking smooth acceleration and teach motorcycle your style of riding.
For me "breaking in" period is an important part of motorcycle operation. Even though technology of manufacturing is improved drastically and very precise now. I feel that my current Honda Super Cub is getting smoother and smoother every thousand km I ride.
You said right ! 3000-4000 rpm is best for himalayan cuz i’m riding the all new 2021 bs6 himalayan... when I was going through running in period I tried to follow the speed rules given in user manual but it didn’t work and engine used to luge. So anyone who owns a new himalayan try to ride your bike between 3000-4000 rpm at 60kmph for first 500 kms then after first service you can take your bike to 80 kmph.... Then as soon as you complete 2000 km on your bike the running period gets completed and now you can go beyond 80 kmph 😄 Happy Riding ❤️
Listing max speeds makes no sense, RPMs are what one should care for, you are right. And they should be neither too low nor too high. Around mid range is fine, with a lot of leeway.
Fully agree! I was puzzled when i saw the table in the manual!
i did the same for my bs6. Albeit after 500km i took it occasionally up to 5k+ rpm for brief moments after 1000kms to break in the engine further. Worked like a charm, do not use full synthetic engine oil by the way, semi synthetic works best for this machine. After 2000kms i also went on full blown 3 hour long rides at 110kmph constant, pretty smooth imho.
Hi! Can you tell me about your review on the semi-synthetic oil, also how long does it last, i also stay in korea and the winter is very harsh here it goes till -20°C so please if you can give me some advice
Thank you for this. My bike is due delivery next week. BTW, I hope your eye has fully recovered 😉
Thank you, it does)
You made some valid points. Hope your eyes recover soon.
Thank you, it getting better now.
Always so calm to watch your amazing volgs. Get well soon Bro. Love from India. God bless you.
I did as you have done. 3000 to 4000 rpm then after 500 Klm the occasional burst to 5000 rpm. No problem at all. 👍🏻
Well done. I concur with watching the RPM as opposed to the speed. It just makes sense.
Yes I agree engine is lugging at those rpm ,best the way you did it bud ,time getting on next week will be doing the same as you,john in north wales UK,like your bids happy riding bud.
Get well soon, and you're mostly right about the rpm count, anyways next month lets go out😁
Looking forward to the moto vlog series
Thats a much easier plan than limiting the ride to the specified speeds. Thanks
I the old days bikes needed overhauling quite often. The policy then was to run them in by trying to keep the engine in it's midrange of power, not too low to make the engine labour and not too high to make too much heat.
Yes, nothing have changed in running in policy.
I agree with you. I too found the speeds prescribed to be causing engine lugging. So instead I used to change gears based on the rpm instead
I think the importance of the running in period is highly overrated.
That said, you are wright, running to low revs is not the wright way to go.
The fortnine-guy did a very good video on it.
I agree with your take on the rpm levels. I don’t know why manufacturers use speed instead of rpms in their guidelines. I only have 380 miles on my Himalayan and plan to keep the speed and rpms down until after 500 miles. Another strange guideline in the owner’s manual on page 3: use only plain water to wash the bike. Detergents will “cause discoloration and damage the paint. Do not polish your motorcycle as it will increase the gloss level and damage the paint”. Take care of yourself and ride safe.
IMHO there is truth in polishing the bike, polishing means taking off some amount of UV protective surface on painted elements. But as this is a adventure bike some slight “adv patina” could look good on Himalayan.😉
I totally agree with you. My 2020 Interceptor 650 has the same very conservative Running In Period gear speed limitations. I try not to run high RPMs in each gear but their limits just don't feel good. I did comply with 4,000rpm maximum 0-500 miles. Now 6,000rpm maximum until 1,000 miles. But the low speed limitations last until 1,2000 miles. Having to shift to 2nd gear at 10mph, especially going uphill, just feels bad. Get well soon my friend.
Thanks for a great video! Agree totally about the rpms. We just got our Himalayans and have put 1800 Kms on them just getting them home. We were running between 3000 and 4000 rpms occasionally going a bit over 4000. Both bikes seemed happy with it.
Thank for comment, seems like 3-4K rpms is a sweet spot for Himalayan owners, and I also go beyond 4000 occasionally).
Your advice on engine lagging is correct. I just got my brand new Himalayan two days ago. I shift gears around 4500rpm and ride it at 4000rpm the engine will tell you were it's best.
Thanks for this - picking up my new Himalayan tomorrow and was taken back by the Kph table (????) - I had already decided that 3000-4000rpm should be the correct measure. Labouring an engine at low rpm will surely do more damage ? Enjoying your informative videos.
Thank you! Low and high rpms when engine is struggling are both not recommended for running in period
Get well soon mate. Keep riding 👍🏼
I've already topped out at 5500 rpm on 5th gear well before the 500km mark for sustained periods on the freeway because, well, I have to. I understand to never red-line it in its early days, but I'm easily averaging 4500rpm when cruising and I havne't heard a good argument against that yet.
take some rest Vlad! Hope you get better soon! BTW, lots of youtubers use sunglasses, like Casey Neistat or Matt Farrah... They look good and if you read helps out with the video quality... awesome job as always! Matte sunglasses are great btw... cheers!
Thank you! I'm finally completely recovered. I was thinking to read using teleprompter, but that didn't work for me, because I haven't enjoyed the process. But I will definitely use glasses outside.
i just bought a 2021 himalayan and recently got its 300 mile check up. i didn't follow speed as much as rpm but I was not precise. we will see what happens lol
Get well soon brother
Thanks Nalla!
Great video
I hope your eye condition improves soon 😎 👍
In my opinion, you are right to not let the engine labour at low revs, so I’m certain your Himalayan will be fine too 😁
Thanks)
Yep I agree
I had COVID-19 and has issue (blood clot) in my right eye. I also know of several friends with the same issue.
Ohh fortunately it wasn’t covid.
I found the same issue. Trying to keep the rpms at 3000 is best for me. I have now put on only 90 k. Does anyone know what they mean by using the B1 manual button on cold start ups? Looks like the choke button to me.
Not have a Himalayan but full agree.
I think the speeds indicated in the chart are the shift points, not the maximum speed.
That would be different story in this case.
That's written in User Manual
1. During the first 2000 Kms of run, do not exceed the speed limits as shown in the table below.
Hope your eye gets better soon so you can go for a ride :)
Thank you, David! I don't stop riding)).
Hello sir i just drove my new himalayan and its heating very much just for riding 5 kms
Mine was really hot too, its an air oiled cooled motorcycle. I thought it should be okay. There wasn't any issue.
Nice video. It will be better without the music.
Exactly the rpm shouldn't exceed 4-5k, i used the half throttle rule as a bullet owner I didn't have the privilege of tachometer 😂
😄
Vladimir,
well done and very good detected!!
A new engine is to ride in the rpm - area, where the engine must not hard work. It's not everytime the gear or the rpm, its also to look were the bike is driving, downhill or uphill, alone or with two persons...
when you have the feeling, the engine is working easy and not out of power, so you are in the right dimensions to have an engine with a long live. To low rpm ist also a low oilpressure!! And a long time fully gas is the same: not good for a new engine, there is about 70 or 80 % in high gear the maximum for the first 2.000 kilometers or so, and later, when this ride-in-time is finished, its the same: let the engine run in that range, wehre it hasn't hard to work. Try to ride on pressure in the right gear about 3.000 or 4.500 rpm...., and without pressure use the highest gear fo good rolling, from 2.000 - to 2.500 or so, downhill or wind from backwards...
And if it is necessary, use the full power and the maximu RPM to finish the speeding and taking the next gear (or overtaking others, or fillig a gap, or to climb a mountain or driving on gravel grounds......
Have a good time
Greets from Germany
Peter
Thank you, for your comment useful indeed.
My friend accidently shifted to 1st gear from 2nd around 30 km/hr speed thinking that it was 3rd gear, on his new bullet meteor 350, which is in running in period. (His previous bike was pulsar and he accidently followed that gear pattern) However the bike is performing as the same as before but we wish to know which part of his bike may be affected from this foolish act! Please reply
I'm not an expert neither mechanic, but IMHO you guys don't have to worry about consequences of that, I usually brake by engine on first gear almost the same way from 3rd to 2nd on 50-60km/h and 20-30km/h on 1st gear.
One of the break in tasks is to set the rings to the walls of the cylinder. This is what the low RPM lugging in the early kilometers does. No worry. Stay gentle on the throttle in this range. Take a look at. ua-cam.com/video/u74jYkItdD8/v-deo.html
Completely agree with Ryan in his video to avoid lugging and avoid higher rpms. Engine braking smooth acceleration and teach motorcycle your style of riding.
I liked the additional point Ryan made about stopping and letting the engine cool down. Also about breaking in new tires.
Just go max 80kmh in 5th and dont red line it. For the first 500km. Then just ride it like you want to
But you can't red line it in 5th, it maxes out a good 1000rpm before that.
That stupid run in limit period of the 2,000 klm, well I don't think it's real , engine after 1,200klm must run full power what do you think?
For me "breaking in" period is an important part of motorcycle operation. Even though technology of manufacturing is improved drastically and very precise now. I feel that my current Honda Super Cub is getting smoother and smoother every thousand km I ride.