Nice. Those 2343's are built quite well. The earlier 2333 used a different brush plate, with those 'screw-on' type brush holders, like the 726, 671 and other early post-war motors. The horizontal motors run a bit slower and noisier than the later, vertical motors, but pull better. I probably would have just cleaned the shell and then swapped it with the dummy. Either way, these are excellent tutorials on how to keep these old units running. A fine video, as always.
I subbed. I love the content. I recently sold off my HO scale train layout and collection. This video makes me want to collect older Lionel trains now !
You didn’t show how you got the shaft spline thru the axle bearing. Did you remove the bearing on one side to achieve this? What about the motor bearing in the transmission case. We see the upper bearing ok but what about lube on the previous mentioned bearing? I use the same red grease, good stuff for spur & worm gears. 10W30 is good for oilite bearings. At $130 for whole set is great deal. Nice presentation.
Helpful video and like how you problem solve a step at a time. I recently bought a Lionel 2343 F3 Santa Fe with dummy. I have not taken the shell off yet. But the inside battery compartment looks pretty clean. The out side around fuel tank has what might be from leaking battery at some point there is dried on white stuff or gunk. Some spots of rust on wheels. Cosmetically okay just missing a few step ladders and porthole windows. I tested briefly on test track would move very slow rough, jerky going forward at full power. Could not get it to run reverse at all only neutral and forward. Was able to move front and rear truck wheels by hand on powered unit but there is moderate resistance. I think the 2343 badly needs service. Do you think cleaning and new lubrication would solve the issues?
Amazing job! I have a question...I have the New York Central 2333. It is missing its rear coupler. What coupler do I need to replace it and how? Thank you for your time!
Mine is beat up way more than that. Darn thing is/was so fast it kept sailing of the 5x9 table. I just couldn’t understand how to stop it. I was twelve.
those defenitly would sound better on traditional track screwed to the layout. nice content but why didnt you pull the brush plates? and I wonder if that puller would work on a 671 wheel set???
Go to a hardware store or automotive supply and look for a cheap 10$ battery terminal puller that looks like the one here. All you have to do is removing a small holding cap on the threaded rod and add a tiny piece of axle sized rod and you got yourself a pretty much identical wheel puller. I just saw them in my local store and thought, hey, these look familiar.
Nice. Those 2343's are built quite well. The earlier 2333 used a different brush plate, with those 'screw-on' type brush holders, like the 726, 671 and other early post-war motors. The horizontal motors run a bit slower and noisier than the later, vertical motors, but pull better. I probably would have just cleaned the shell and then swapped it with the dummy. Either way, these are excellent tutorials on how to keep these old units running. A fine video, as always.
Your soldering skills will get a real workout fixing these older units!
Nice instructive video ! Good eBay purchase
I subbed. I love the content. I recently sold off my HO scale train layout and collection. This video makes me want to collect older Lionel trains now !
Great useful video,thanks.
Nice overview. I subscribed as YT let me know you existed.
You didn’t show how you got the shaft spline thru the axle bearing. Did you remove the bearing on one side to achieve this? What about the motor bearing in the transmission case. We see the upper bearing ok but what about lube on the previous mentioned bearing? I use the same red grease, good stuff for spur & worm gears. 10W30 is good for oilite bearings. At $130 for whole set is great deal. Nice presentation.
Wow, this is what I needed to rebuild my f3, could you PLEASE tell me the part number for the brushes, great video.
Yes, part number for the brushes is 622-121.
Helpful video and like how you problem solve a step at a time. I recently bought a Lionel 2343 F3 Santa Fe with dummy. I have not taken the shell off yet. But the inside battery compartment looks pretty clean. The out side around fuel tank has what might be from leaking battery at some point there is dried on white stuff or gunk. Some spots of rust on wheels. Cosmetically okay just missing a few step ladders and porthole windows. I tested briefly on test track would move very slow rough, jerky going forward at full power. Could not get it to run reverse at all only neutral and forward. Was able to move front and rear truck wheels by hand on powered unit but there is moderate resistance. I think the 2343 badly needs service. Do you think cleaning and new lubrication would solve the issues?
Amazing job! I have a question...I have the New York Central 2333. It is missing its rear coupler. What coupler do I need to replace it and how? Thank you for your time!
Mine is beat up way more than that. Darn thing is/was so fast it kept sailing of the 5x9 table. I just couldn’t understand how to stop it. I was twelve.
You can take a hair dryer with light Heat and it'll make that white powdery looking stuff go away it's off gassing from the plastic
those defenitly would sound better on traditional track screwed to the layout. nice content but why didnt you pull the brush plates? and I wonder if that puller would work on a 671 wheel set???
It would appear that you have a Lionel 2343 and not a 2333. All the frames say 2333 but its the motors, shells and number boards that are different.
Where did you get the wheel puller from ?
I picked it up on eBay a few years ago. I did a search on eBay for train wheel puller and they are still available at $20.50 + $5.50 shipping.
Go to a hardware store or automotive supply and look for a cheap 10$ battery terminal puller that looks like the one here. All you have to do is removing a small holding cap on the threaded rod and add a tiny piece of axle sized rod and you got yourself a pretty much identical wheel puller. I just saw them in my local store and thought, hey, these look familiar.
2343 ??? not 2333