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I can corroborate this car's drive-ability. It instills confidence. Its sportiness and agility make it an experience wholly different than any Honda I've ever driven. Quite frankly, I'm blown away. Amazing value.
I really like the new look of the Civic, and I like the color, which reminds me of the green on my old Mazda 2, although this is a bit lighter. I don't care if it looks strange because it's different. It would certainly be easy to find in a parking lot. That being said, if I was in the market for a compact car I would still probably pick a Mazda 3 over this, especially the Mazda 3 hatchback with the 2.5L engine. I would get that great Mazda handling, around the same HP as this car with probably better long term reliability, a better transmission than a CVT, and an infotainment system that is actually user friendly, all at around a similar price. Still, I applaud Honda for actually trying to be different instead of just making another econ-o-box. With some more refinement this car could be the best compact.
D Bear yeah, a lot of us would still go for the Mazda 3. This car did a great job, but I think the customer base that prefers function over fashion is definitely going to go for the Mazda 3 every time.
matt molloy It's the other way around. No offense, but the Mazda 3 has the edge in two things: driving dynamics and styling (subjective). Yes, those two are important, but the car loses to its competition in other areas as well. Take the newest Civic for example, it offers way more space and functionality, better NVH mitigation (i.e. refinement), and better fuel economy. The trade-off is that it only has about 85% of the "fun-to-drive" feeling of the Mazda 3. After that, the competitors are offering better connectivity; though I don't see it as important as the aforementioned features. Anyway, your assertion of Mazda 3 being function over fashion is incorrect. The 2017 refresh was commendable, but the Mazda 3 is half a generation behind in aspects other than being "fun to drive" (plus the competition is catching up).
What I like so much about the Mazda3 is that you get the naturally aspirated 2.5L motor and the body style. I am currently driving the 2006 Mazda3 5sp sedan and wanted to buy a new Mazda this year but they are not offering the manual in either the 3 or 6 sedan!!! Really pissed me off! I don't know if I will take the 5sp hatchback or the automatic sedan or neither one! My 2006 has been very reliable and I still enjoy driving it even though it only has the 2.0L motor. It is still very enjoyable to drive.
I like the rear end of the car! at night the whole light illuminates giving the civic a unique and distinctive look and if you install a spoiler it looks just fantastic!
Got the 2018 LX Coupe model a couple weeks ago. Black colour and 6 speed standard. Absolutely love that car. I recommend it to anyone who's looking for a new car. Definitely worth the money and it's crazy fun to drive. Probably gonna stick with Honda when it comes to vehicles. My old car was a Honda Civic as well. CRV's are nice too but don't think they come with a manual transmission. It's too bad because if they did, I would've maybe gotten one someday. Drove a CRV before as well and loved it.
@@Xezthos I wanted to get one but none was available at the time and my old car had problems and it was an automatic (I wanted a standard too which is one of the other reasons I got rid of my old car). I finally did get an Si though in March. I love it.
This review is amazingly detailed. Every car review should be like this. Even I may not be buying this car, I enjoy the narrative and description of the review.
Holy crap, this is the best video yet! I don't even care about the car, but you just next-leveled it with the Turbowski intro. HO LEE COW that was brilliant. Civic is impressive and thanks for the balanced review- but is really worth almost $30K?! I remember when Civics were half that. They give you more now, but damn... CVT and turbo.. this is not the bulletproof Hondas that will last forever like the old days...
Car journalists have to say what the MSRP of the car is. You can get a 16/17 Touring for around 26k out-the-door in most places. I paid 24,100 OTD for my 2016 EX-L Sedan with a few accessories.
Go into the audio settings and turn volume gestures off. this turns off the "swipe" function on the steering wheel volume control, so you're not accidentally touching it all the time lol.
savagegeese, ohh so you cry about the volume control when you know you can disable the "swipe" function 🙄. I don't need a volume knob. You just like to complain about little things like those old men magazine car reviewers!
***** What's your point? People bought the totally redesigned Corolla in droves and hardly anyone bought the all new Dodge Dart (which is now becoming defunct). Nobody is buying based on looks, rather past reliability reputation.
I bought this car for my daughter yesterday based solely on your review. Honda should pay you a commission! Keep up the great vids. Can't wait to see your review of the "R" when it comes out.
She loves it! I went with black instead of the margarita green. She asked why it says "earth dreams" on the engine. I didn't have the heart to give her the entire F1 back story....
Hey man, I recently found out how to disable the touch sensitive volume slider on the steering wheel. I believe it's somewhere in the settings but unfortunately, I forget where exactly it is. That definitely saves my civic experience a lot.
Savagegeese, I'm impressed that you are totally honest with the handling aspects of the civic. Trust me, you are one of the very few who drive the car and tell it like it truly is. Based on your review, it looks like the new Civic is a great car that probably needs some of the minor-medium flaws worked out. Honda has made such a major change to this car I'm definitely curious to see if they fix them in the next year or two. My take: If you're buying new just get the LX hatchback in Manual, buy and install your own 7 inch car stereo. This keeps the cost around 20K. I see no reason to pay more than that for these Civic's.
My friend recently bought a civic coupe turbo with manual in the electric green color and he loves it so far. The turbo kicks in at such a low RPM that there's no need to leave 6th gear on the highway to pass.
Back in 1987 I looked underneath my 1986 Integra when the oil was being changed. It was a thing of beauty. Still today wonderful job on the underside of this car. this is one thing Honda does very well.
In short, I went from a 9th gen (2014) Si to a 10th Gen "lowly" LX (manual trans) and feel like I stepped up in terms of overall performance. The 10th gen really is that good . The upcoming Si and Type R is going to be amazing.
That's interesting to hear. I still cling to my 20 year old LS Teg that keeps on trucking totally stock. I am gentle to it but when I want 7k+ to 2nd or 4th gear muckracking around like an ass I can get it. This is 20 years however. I prefer primitive but if I can have more fun... Does Honda keep its acronym namesake with post modern Civics -- "Hold on, not done accelerating"? 90's NSX is still on the table though. It's such a dream to be in and drive. One day there will be a car to rule them all... mostly because you aren't driving it and instead programming parameters. A weird feeling to consider. At some point cars driven by the meat limbs of people will not be street legal.
+MotoBoy Maybe, but I think its more how message gets delivered. This is a very popular mainstream car, so I could probably make a standalone 15 minute video complaining about the CVT, understeer, infotainment, no more NA, but well that would end badly.
savagegeese Haha yup, just evaluating it for what it is. It's no sportscar, but they put all this effort into making it look aggressive/different and yet it lacks any sport and thus character imo...just another good commuter. The interior is genuinely nice though. The understeer you're talking about is something that's going to be present in all cars from the latest M3 to my Sonata. It's all in the name of safety...understeer is far safer than oversteer and it's just something that you have to accept nowadays.. Fuck that piece of shit CVT though. My Sonata comes with a fucking DCT (it's almost sporty!) and I bought that car for 17.5k before taxes. I know what you mean by the delayed throttle response....seems to be a common problem in many modern cars. Very annoying.
Absolutely fascinating.... I fell out of love with my 2017 Touring soooooo fast... I still have it... maybe it feels like too much of a "grown up" car for my 30 years.... so I mostly drive my 08 coupe
Love your reviews, I just discovered you today watching the why I dumped a Mazda 3i review! Having the mechanic guy look at the bottom and comment is also really fun to watch.
4 years into owning my civic, the quick release screws under the car just fell out, so the plate just fell and started scraping on the floor on my way in a 5 hour drive... i just removed it but i wish they would’ve just put regular damn screws
the "simulated" shifting is two fold, its one to emulate a shift, obviously. and secondly it helps prevent wear on the belt/chain in the trans by closing the throttlebody and shifting the belt position while not under full load making it last longer.
I've watched dozens of reviews of the 10th gen Civic. This is the best. When I bought my 2018 Civic EX-T, I was expecting the under steer. But, surprisingly I found the handling to be tight and responsive. Perhaps I drove at a fairly conservatively pace. As for the turbo lag, yes that was noticeable but expected with the CVT. For the money, the Civic with Turbo is nearly best in class if not best in class.
how do you think about this compare to Mazda3. I recommend a civic sedan to my friend, but I haven't driven it for any extended time, I wonder how it was for you over a week
oh ya I own a 15 mazda3, didn't recommend it to my friend since she was looking for the safety sense package at a lower price and isn't as anal about driving dynamic
We just bought a 2017 Civic Touring Sedan. Less than 11,000mi for 17K. Let me say this..UFB! The feel is automatically..Luxury Sport Car. I agree on some points..disable all vehicle controlled assists, they're obtrusive. Cruise control with Collision Warning at longest distance..picks up vehicles in opposite lane and auto slows vehicles "While Passing!" Unsafe. Disagree with interior media and driver control. This vehicle is 100% digital control from steering wheel, voice activation for calls and even texts! Audio controls again, while driving, very simple and 100% controllable on the wheel. Only downside.."No Mute in Drive-Thru's!" But with Bluetooth audio, pause and play easy tap when audio display on. Handling: First off, we're averaging 42.7mpg after 3 weeks and 2,000 miles added. When was the last time a tank of premium cost you less than $30? Drop the mic..
I tried to buy a Civic sedan with the tech package (for my sister) in May this year. The dealer would not drop the price below list! He suggested that I get the non tech package car. Bought a Camry instead (bigger more comfortable non CVT safer, albeit boring). The tech package on the Civic is fantastic.
Understeer can be reduced by not braking while turning. Weight transfers to the front under braking, and turning just sends that momentum to the outside of the curve, creating understeer.
Overall a very fair and honest review! I own a 2016 Civic Sedan Touring and I think it's one of the best cars people can buy at this price. Hands down. With this being a complete re-design, they are leaving a really poorly made 9th generation Civic behind, so a hic-up or two with flaws in the info-taiment and driver assist features were kind of expected. Considering these features are unsurpassed in this 10th gen Civic. I do disagree with your opinions on this vehicles CVT. It's the best on the market from what I've gathered, but to each their own, right? Teh car gets off the line pretty quick and passing people and sustaining power on the road is impressive... And people complaining about the ass end of this car, consider this... Most cars on the road are basic as f and A LOT of car-makers copy each other's design. We all know this. But I would rather think of this design as a big middle finger to car designers who are lacking in the originality department.
Ryan Littleton well I have a 2017 Coupe for close to 2 years. Not a issue except from the shit tires. No stupid check engine light or warning lights. Been a excellent car.
Maybe it's taken for granted these days, but... 1) does the passenger seat remember its setting when it's flipped forward for rear passenger access? It did on Neon, but it does not on Wrangler. Front passengers in Jeep have to re-adjust every time. 2) does the door handle unlock locked doors? Unlocks in e.g. Wrangler, but not in tC or xB.
Honda definitely has a history of being more "Driver-centric" compared other economy cars in the class. I'm glad to see that remains true here from a handling standpoint. Also I think you make a good point focusing on the attention to detail and variety in the interior. It seems to be fluid without coming off as "too busy". Nooks and crannies too. My wife's Honda Pilot has the most functional space I've ever seen in a car. Honda does an incredibly good job with maximizing the usefulness of interior space.
I took a look at the new civic when it first came out. After seeing the engine and sitting in it, I decided that it's way too messy under the hood and sitting so far down in the car isn't for me.
Based on what I know from building an 8th gen Autocross car the front/rear disconnect feeling you're getting is from the rear motion ratio sucking. The rear shock mr looks to have been improved but the spring still sucks. So, with almost equal rates Honda dials in roll stiffness with the front being stiffer than the rear. I *think* the rear suspension is done this way to keep good camber control and the spring for comfort obviously.
I replaced my Firestone FT140 all seasons with BFGoodRich Ultra High Performance All Seasons (Comp2 AS), it makes a massive difference. Turn in and grip throughout is much better. Can't wait for the 2017 Si. Might have to trade it up
Almost $30K for a standard Civic....I thought I'd never see the day. For another $6-7K you can get the Type R and the super dope stylin that comes with it. Oh yea this is one of the best YT creators out there, quirks and features be damned.
I think this car is designed a divorced woman mid-level government administrative clerk working at the IRS. Sort of sporty looking but reliable with a bit of flash.
Manual adjustments in the top of the line trim? Was that just on your review car? I'm stuck between the Civic Hatchback and the Forte 5. Kia gives you a lot for your money and a real good warranty.
I talked about this in a video explaining the past two years of doing these reviews . cars are consumer products and to talk about them without addressing some of the negatives is dishonest I'm not making commercials or sales pitches to buy cars. There is more than enough of that out there.
Honda needs to realize that we won't even look at their cars if they don't have physical knobs and buttons on the stereo. We went through this back in the 1980's with receiver manufacturers when digital tuners replaced analog ones. They eventually figured it out and knobs and buttons came back. But it was such a pain while it lasted. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it, Honda.
My lord, the Turbowski montage was everything I hoped it could be.
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I was stupid forgot my password. I would love any assistance you can give me!
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I can corroborate this car's drive-ability. It instills confidence. Its sportiness and agility make it an experience wholly different than any Honda I've ever driven. Quite frankly, I'm blown away. Amazing value.
LOL I love the idea that Scott has no idea how you are introducing him and his segment in these reviews. Great fun touch.
Honda did make it a point that they're listening to the owners by bringing back the volume knob starting with the new CRV
you need an award for that Turbowski intro alone
This might sound weird, but I love the side mirror design. It actually looks good and it's not just a standard mirror lol
Hunter Dugas I agree, the attention to detail is apparent with this car.
That Turbowski intro Ahahahahahah
I hope the uses it for all the videos going forward!
ju348a agreed!!!
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I had to immediately replay the Turbow intro....LOL
Oh my God, that Turbowski introduction!! Bahahaha! Please loop that that on a separate video!
FasterThanSoup that was hella funny dude, his intro was freaking hilarious
I was actually hoping "Turbowski" would be picked up for another season. I smell an Emmy.
I actually quite like the looks of this generation Civic.
Love how the speed gets censored as it goes up.
he doesn't want video evidence of him committing a crime lol
I love how you go over the mechanics, I don't know much of it but I love learning
He not only goes over the mechanics, he also quizzes one.
One of the most thoughtful and useful car reviews I've ever seen.
I really like the new look of the Civic, and I like the color, which reminds me of the green on my old Mazda 2, although this is a bit lighter. I don't care if it looks strange because it's different. It would certainly be easy to find in a parking lot.
That being said, if I was in the market for a compact car I would still probably pick a Mazda 3 over this, especially the Mazda 3 hatchback with the 2.5L engine. I would get that great Mazda handling, around the same HP as this car with probably better long term reliability, a better transmission than a CVT, and an infotainment system that is actually user friendly, all at around a similar price.
Still, I applaud Honda for actually trying to be different instead of just making another econ-o-box. With some more refinement this car could be the best compact.
D Bear yeah, a lot of us would still go for the Mazda 3. This car did a great job, but I think the customer base that prefers function over fashion is definitely going to go for the Mazda 3 every time.
matt molloy
It's the other way around. No offense, but the Mazda 3 has the edge in two things: driving dynamics and styling (subjective). Yes, those two are important, but the car loses to its competition in other areas as well. Take the newest Civic for example, it offers way more space and functionality, better NVH mitigation (i.e. refinement), and better fuel economy. The trade-off is that it only has about 85% of the "fun-to-drive" feeling of the Mazda 3. After that, the competitors are offering better connectivity; though I don't see it as important as the aforementioned features. Anyway, your assertion of Mazda 3 being function over fashion is incorrect.
The 2017 refresh was commendable, but the Mazda 3 is half a generation behind in aspects other than being "fun to drive" (plus the competition is catching up).
What I like so much about the Mazda3 is that you get the naturally aspirated 2.5L motor and the body style. I am currently driving the 2006 Mazda3 5sp sedan and wanted to buy a new Mazda this year but they are not offering the manual in either the 3 or 6 sedan!!! Really pissed me off! I don't know if I will take the 5sp hatchback or the automatic sedan or neither one! My 2006 has been very reliable and I still enjoy driving it even though it only has the 2.0L motor. It is still very enjoyable to drive.
Is your oil light on?
+zollotech no just the oil change reminder
I like the rear end of the car! at night the whole light illuminates giving the civic a unique and distinctive look and if you install a spoiler it looks just fantastic!
Got the 2018 LX Coupe model a couple weeks ago. Black colour and 6 speed standard. Absolutely love that car. I recommend it to anyone who's looking for a new car. Definitely worth the money and it's crazy fun to drive. Probably gonna stick with Honda when it comes to vehicles. My old car was a Honda Civic as well. CRV's are nice too but don't think they come with a manual transmission. It's too bad because if they did, I would've maybe gotten one someday. Drove a CRV before as well and loved it.
why didn’t you just get the Si ?
@@Xezthos I wanted to get one but none was available at the time and my old car had problems and it was an automatic (I wanted a standard too which is one of the other reasons I got rid of my old car). I finally did get an Si though in March. I love it.
That was a very honest and comprehensive review. Thank you! I hope Honda is watching because you have definitely given them some food for thought.
Another great review, you're one of the best on UA-cam. I always enjoy your reviews.
Oh, geez, I really don't know how you handled all the power in the Civic after you had the Hellcat. That 1.5 and CVT combo is insane, let me tell you.
Tim O'Hara You can definitely tell in his face that he wasnt impressed lol.
The civic will last 20 years... Good luck with a Chrysler made dodge. Lol
I love how the last Navigation search was for local Gentleman's Clubs. Hahahaha.
gentlemen's club had me cracking up
This review is amazingly detailed. Every car review should be like this. Even I may not be buying this car, I enjoy the narrative and description of the review.
how is this all the subscribers you have?
Holy crap, this is the best video yet! I don't even care about the car, but you just next-leveled it with the Turbowski intro. HO LEE COW that was brilliant. Civic is impressive and thanks for the balanced review- but is really worth almost $30K?! I remember when Civics were half that. They give you more now, but damn... CVT and turbo.. this is not the bulletproof Hondas that will last forever like the old days...
Car journalists have to say what the MSRP of the car is. You can get a 16/17 Touring for around 26k out-the-door in most places. I paid 24,100 OTD for my 2016 EX-L Sedan with a few accessories.
Nice, thanks. Yes it seems the prices topping in the low to mid 20s seems reasonable for the Civic.
Scott's intro is something else haha. Great review!
It's all about the 6 speed for the base model!!! You made so many great points. Fantastic review
Go into the audio settings and turn volume gestures off. this turns off the "swipe" function on the steering wheel volume control, so you're not accidentally touching it all the time lol.
+Import Car Enthusiast I cut that part out as its enabled by default.
holy hell, thank you for this comment! I didn't realize I could turn that off, it's incredibly annoying.
savagegeese, ohh so you cry about the volume control when you know you can disable the "swipe" function 🙄. I don't need a volume knob. You just like to complain about little things like those old men magazine car reviewers!
OMG that Turbowski intro tickled me just the right way!I want more!!!!
Turbowski polishing his tool to 80's bee-bop! LMAO x 10!
the 1.5 is great and all but I like the base motor for simplicity.
Thank you for being one of the few reviewers for admitting this design is way too over the top and tryhard
rear end is terrible
yeah the rear end is ugly, everything else is fine
yeah, it's too weird
im glad there's people that agree with me, this new civic is terrible and overdesigned
***** What's your point? People bought the totally redesigned Corolla in droves and hardly anyone bought the all new Dodge Dart (which is now becoming defunct). Nobody is buying based on looks, rather past reliability reputation.
I bought this car for my daughter yesterday based solely on your review. Honda should pay you a commission! Keep up the great vids. Can't wait to see your review of the "R" when it comes out.
+Big Wave Glad it helped, does she like it?
She loves it! I went with black instead of the margarita green. She asked why it says "earth dreams" on the engine. I didn't have the heart to give her the entire F1 back story....
Honestly this turbowski intro should be in all videos he's in
Hey man, I recently found out how to disable the touch sensitive volume slider on the steering wheel. I believe it's somewhere in the settings but unfortunately, I forget where exactly it is. That definitely saves my civic experience a lot.
Savagegeese, I'm impressed that you are totally honest with the handling aspects of the civic. Trust me, you are one of the very few who drive the car and tell it like it truly is.
Based on your review, it looks like the new Civic is a great car that probably needs some of the minor-medium flaws worked out. Honda has made such a major change to this car I'm definitely curious to see if they fix them in the next year or two.
My take: If you're buying new just get the LX hatchback in Manual, buy and install your own 7 inch car stereo. This keeps the cost around 20K. I see no reason to pay more than that for these Civic's.
My friend recently bought a civic coupe turbo with manual in the electric green color and he loves it so far. The turbo kicks in at such a low RPM that there's no need to leave 6th gear on the highway to pass.
These reviews have everything, humor included, just great.
Absolutely love your reviews. I know you put a lot into them and it shows. please keep up the stellar work.
"Duals... that are hidden." What the fudge! Dual hidden exhaust on a 1.5 litre. I just don't get it.
I've seen many many review, and this is indeed the best. In fact, it's so good that I bothered to write my comment for the first time. Great job bro
Back in 1987 I looked underneath my 1986 Integra when the oil was being changed. It was a thing of beauty. Still today wonderful job on the underside of this car. this is one thing Honda does very well.
Yessss thank god you started reviewing Honda's
**Thank god Honda started giving him cars** lol
ThatGearHead True
i never noticed the body gap until i owned one. the car is such a breath of fresh air you dont notice the body gap in the trunk
I've had a Civic for 2 years. No volume knob is no problem. The buttons on the steering wheel work fine. I like how uncluttered the center console is.
@savagegeese, In terms of suspension and handling, would you still prefer the mazda 3?
Turbowski's theme goes perfectly with his shop stance.
That Turbowski Time Transition.. freaking priceless
In short, I went from a 9th gen (2014) Si to a 10th Gen "lowly" LX (manual trans) and feel like I stepped up in terms of overall performance. The 10th gen really is that good . The upcoming Si and Type R is going to be amazing.
+J Fazzuoli The 9th gen is like a kmart car compared to 10th gen glad you made the switch.
That's interesting to hear. I still cling to my 20 year old LS Teg that keeps on trucking totally stock. I am gentle to it but when I want 7k+ to 2nd or 4th gear muckracking around like an ass I can get it. This is 20 years however. I prefer primitive but if I can have more fun... Does Honda keep its acronym namesake with post modern Civics -- "Hold on, not done accelerating"?
90's NSX is still on the table though. It's such a dream to be in and drive.
One day there will be a car to rule them all... mostly because you aren't driving it and instead programming parameters. A weird feeling to consider.
At some point cars driven by the meat limbs of people will not be street legal.
Most thorough review I’ve ever seen of the Civic!
LOL my ribs hurt from that Turbowski intro.
Because your heart cannot hold all that love? 😆
Maybe it's just me, but I'm sensing a more positive spin on things?
+MotoBoy Maybe, but I think its more how message gets delivered. This is a very popular mainstream car, so I could probably make a standalone 15 minute video complaining about the CVT, understeer, infotainment, no more NA, but well that would end badly.
savagegeese Haha yup, just evaluating it for what it is. It's no sportscar, but they put all this effort into making it look aggressive/different and yet it lacks any sport and thus character imo...just another good commuter. The interior is genuinely nice though. The understeer you're talking about is something that's going to be present in all cars from the latest M3 to my Sonata. It's all in the name of safety...understeer is far safer than oversteer and it's just something that you have to accept nowadays.. Fuck that piece of shit CVT though. My Sonata comes with a fucking DCT (it's almost sporty!) and I bought that car for 17.5k before taxes. I know what you mean by the delayed throttle response....seems to be a common problem in many modern cars. Very annoying.
@savagegeese, and the worst part? The rear.. =(
Absolutely fascinating.... I fell out of love with my 2017 Touring soooooo fast... I still have it... maybe it feels like too much of a "grown up" car for my 30 years.... so I mostly drive my 08 coupe
Love your reviews, I just discovered you today watching the why I dumped a Mazda 3i review! Having the mechanic guy look at the bottom and comment is also really fun to watch.
ROFLMAO @ Turbowski section. Handling that screw driver like a BOSS Turbowski! Great review as always!
Looked foward to this one. Alot of your points is the reason why i moved away from buying this.
I love every aspect of their new designs!!! Its futuristic in the best ways oh man its glorious!
Have you ever reviewed the Elantra GT with the 173HP 2.0l? It's just like the Honda engines of old. :)
4 years into owning my civic, the quick release screws under the car just fell out, so the plate just fell and started scraping on the floor on my way in a 5 hour drive... i just removed it but i wish they would’ve just put regular damn screws
Scott sure knows how to lube my chassis!
He keeps my old girl running!
the "simulated" shifting is two fold, its one to emulate a shift, obviously. and secondly it helps prevent wear on the belt/chain in the trans by closing the throttlebody and shifting the belt position while not under full load making it last longer.
I've watched dozens of reviews of the 10th gen Civic. This is the best.
When I bought my 2018 Civic EX-T, I was expecting the under steer. But, surprisingly I found the handling to be tight and responsive. Perhaps I drove at a fairly conservatively pace. As for the turbo lag, yes that was noticeable but expected with the CVT.
For the money, the Civic with Turbo is nearly best in class if not best in class.
txmoney honestly, I feel the same about my touring coupe. I enjoy it more than my V6 Altima coupe that I traded in.
how do you think about this compare to Mazda3. I recommend a civic sedan to my friend, but I haven't driven it for any extended time, I wonder how it was for you over a week
oh ya I own a 15 mazda3, didn't recommend it to my friend since she was looking for the safety sense package at a lower price and isn't as anal about driving dynamic
We just bought a 2017 Civic Touring Sedan. Less than 11,000mi for 17K. Let me say this..UFB! The feel is automatically..Luxury Sport Car. I agree on some points..disable all vehicle controlled assists, they're obtrusive. Cruise control with Collision Warning at longest distance..picks up vehicles in opposite lane and auto slows vehicles "While Passing!" Unsafe. Disagree with interior media and driver control. This vehicle is 100% digital control from steering wheel, voice activation for calls and even texts! Audio controls again, while driving, very simple and 100% controllable on the wheel. Only downside.."No Mute in Drive-Thru's!" But with Bluetooth audio, pause and play easy tap when audio display on.
Handling: First off, we're averaging 42.7mpg after 3 weeks and 2,000 miles added. When was the last time a tank of premium cost you less than $30? Drop the mic..
I tried to buy a Civic sedan with the tech package (for my sister) in May this year. The dealer would not drop the price below list! He suggested that I get the non tech package car. Bought a Camry instead (bigger more comfortable non CVT safer, albeit boring). The tech package on the Civic is fantastic.
Understeer can be reduced by not braking while turning. Weight transfers to the front under braking, and turning just sends that momentum to the outside of the curve, creating understeer.
Tapping the brakes just before the corner, then gently accelerating into the corner is the way to go about it
Overall a very fair and honest review! I own a 2016 Civic Sedan Touring and I think it's one of the best cars people can buy at this price. Hands down. With this being a complete re-design, they are leaving a really poorly made 9th generation Civic behind, so a hic-up or two with flaws in the info-taiment and driver assist features were kind of expected. Considering these features are unsurpassed in this 10th gen Civic. I do disagree with your opinions on this vehicles CVT. It's the best on the market from what I've gathered, but to each their own, right? Teh car gets off the line pretty quick and passing people and sustaining power on the road is impressive... And people complaining about the ass end of this car, consider this... Most cars on the road are basic as f and A LOT of car-makers copy each other's design. We all know this. But I would rather think of this design as a big middle finger to car designers who are lacking in the originality department.
Carlos Equis Well said, love my 16 Civic LX 2.0 manual
Carlos Equis safe to say you'd recommend the 16 over this one?
Carlos Equis How's it holding up?
Ryan Littleton well I have a 2017 Coupe for close to 2 years. Not a issue except from the shit tires. No stupid check engine light or warning lights. Been a excellent car.
@@lastpally That's good to hear.
Maybe it's taken for granted these days, but... 1) does the passenger seat remember its setting when it's flipped forward for rear passenger access? It did on Neon, but it does not on Wrangler. Front passengers in Jeep have to re-adjust every time. 2) does the door handle unlock locked doors? Unlocks in e.g. Wrangler, but not in tC or xB.
Pete Zaitcev Neon, Wrangler, Tc and xB? You have an interesting array of vehicles there...
I owned a 1978 Civic CVCC. If I came out of a 40 year coma I wouldn't recognize this thing.
Martin Smith 😂😂
I have the 2016 EX-T model in this color. This is the MOST accurate review. I've said 99% of the things he touched on.
Great review as usual! Any plans to test the manual Civic Sport hatchback?
i wonder how fast he was going 13:17.... surely he was going legal speeds :D
I was wondering why it was blurred. I guess that makes sense lol
1. Turbowski actually said 'aluminium'.
2. Infotaiment system critique is spot-on.
Want to say thanks for your video. It really helped me decide on this car for my next new vehicle.
How can we quiet the ride ? Undercoating ?
Honda definitely has a history of being more "Driver-centric" compared other economy cars in the class. I'm glad to see that remains true here from a handling standpoint. Also I think you make a good point focusing on the attention to detail and variety in the interior. It seems to be fluid without coming off as "too busy". Nooks and crannies too. My wife's Honda Pilot has the most functional space I've ever seen in a car. Honda does an incredibly good job with maximizing the usefulness of interior space.
you need to release all of your instrumentals for the reviews I'd buy that album any day
why is the coupe being reviewed instead of the 4 door.
RIP Honda Civic coupe
The best civic for sure and one of the best coupes under 40k these days. I should've bought one but I went and got a cuv, FML
I took a look at the new civic when it first came out. After seeing the engine and sitting in it, I decided that it's way too messy under the hood and sitting so far down in the car isn't for me.
Based on what I know from building an 8th gen Autocross car the front/rear disconnect feeling you're getting is from the rear motion ratio sucking.
The rear shock mr looks to have been improved but the spring still sucks. So, with almost equal rates Honda dials in roll stiffness with the front being stiffer than the rear. I *think* the rear suspension is done this way to keep good camber control and the spring for comfort obviously.
Great review, glad to see you guys finally got a Honda to review! I picked up the 2016 Civic EXL sedan. It's a fantastic daily driver.
I replaced my Firestone FT140 all seasons with BFGoodRich Ultra High Performance All Seasons (Comp2 AS), it makes a massive difference. Turn in and grip throughout is much better. Can't wait for the 2017 Si. Might have to trade it up
This is so much better than the previous civics.
Do you think a pair of sway bars will help with handling
+Euge L Maybe a large rear bar yes.
+Euge L Also think front is camber limited.
Almost $30K for a standard Civic....I thought I'd never see the day. For another $6-7K you can get the Type R and the super dope stylin that comes with it. Oh yea this is one of the best YT creators out there, quirks and features be damned.
So you think rivals like mazda 3 or corolla have less road noise? I doubt
OMG!!! That Turbowskl intro was HILARIOUS!!!!
How much would a set of tires cost on one of these and how long does the factory set last?
I think this car is designed a divorced woman mid-level government administrative clerk working at the IRS. Sort of sporty looking but reliable with a bit of flash.
10tenman10 LMAO
and she stinks
10tenman10 🤣🤣
IRS employees have to choose their cars based on how easily paint scratches can be fixed. 😄
"Better than any since the eighth generation". So...Better than the 9th generation alone? :P
why blot out the speedo during your 0-60?
Manual adjustments in the top of the line trim? Was that just on your review car? I'm stuck between the Civic Hatchback and the Forte 5. Kia gives you a lot for your money and a real good warranty.
how does this compare to the hyundai elantra sport?
Think you could get and review the Type R?
My second vid with this guy. He seems like a slightly negative person; he always see in the negative in things. Real joy to be around.
I talked about this in a video explaining the past two years of doing these reviews . cars are consumer products and to talk about them without addressing some of the negatives is dishonest I'm not making commercials or sales pitches to buy cars. There is more than enough of that out there.
keep doing what you do savage
whats with the oil symbol in the main cluster that was on while you were driving?
Honda needs to realize that we won't even look at their cars if they don't have physical knobs and buttons on the stereo. We went through this back in the 1980's with receiver manufacturers when digital tuners replaced analog ones. They eventually figured it out and knobs and buttons came back. But it was such a pain while it lasted. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it, Honda.
LOVE the new and improved Turbowski!
That a review! Very well gents.I commend you for your performance.