The area is frequented by floods and earthquakes. That's why it has had to be rebuilt so many times and will probably never be rebuilt again.@dammitbobby283
It's currently not traversable, and it has had maintenance. Every RR that's operated there has sunk gazillions of dollars into the thing. No operator of that line has ever turned a profit. Current attempt is the City of San Diego, owners the right of way, contracted with Baja Rail, the Mexican company that owns the portion of the line south of the border. The Mexican company will repair damage to, and then operate the line on both sides of the border. That agreement is just a few years old. No progress yet on either side. I'm not expecting that project to ever go anywhere. BUT - Lots of hikers in the area have reported (on enthusiast websites) that the SD county sheriff patrols and tickets hikers/bikers/rail carts and other trespassers. It's a $400 fine. Unverified speculation is that the Mexicans are contracting with the Sheriff's dept for patrol. That's not unheard of at all, and in many places very common. The LA county sheriff (and I'm sure the SDCo Sheriff as well) contracts with hundreds of companies and municipalities for service.
Got nothing to do with that... it's a testament to the steadiness of the ground it is built upon. Note as soon as a wash was found, the track for gonski. The hard work was building it though those canyons and making the tunnels. It's only still there by the grace of mother nature. In all honesty, they were pretty flimsy railways built back then. The real works of art are the trestles... they are marvels and a testament to the people who built them so long back.
Have you ever come across any serious dangers like wild animals? This is honestly one of my bucket list items. I'm a young disabled lady from England who is obsessed with the US wild West and the deserts and railtracks and history of it all. I can't think of a better way to spend a day than this video...thanks for uploading
I enjoyed the tranquility of this ride even from my UA-cam arm chair. That would be a very cool desert adventure. Like being on an old steam train of old.
That was breathtaking watching it on my mobile phone screen so I can only imagine how breathtaking it would have been to be there in person 🤩. Thanks for allowing us to come along for the ride.
I had the same thought but no, their rig is light enough to just pick up and lift/portage over/around all but the worst of obstructions. When they got to the end, the long, rocking washout, I thought they could dismount and roll the cart but no harm, no foul for not trying that. Also, it looks like they didn't have a hand control they could have used from the side of the car, dismounted, so even mo' sketchy!
We have seen some very primitive man built structures last 1000+ years out west. Those should last alot longer...as long as geology doesn't eat them first :)
What a nice way to see the country side, and its free! A few rock falls to negotiate ! Even extra track if ure into fixing, need tools though ! Picture was a bit fuzzy, but good relaxing video !! 👏👏👍👍
LOVE the railcart! I rode this line from the East San Diego side in the early 1990s on a mountain bike. This was before the line was modernized and used briefly by UP freight trains. At that time, many of the tunnels were blocked and from the video, the trestle has incurred more damage from slides since the line was shut down again 😥 Nothing like biking across the many bridges and looking almost straight down the gorge through the catwalks. Thanks for the cool video!
We used to have a clear path all the way up to almost the top. The final tunnel was completely blocked. That was back in the 70s. Most of the tressels were gone. Just the track and the ties still all connected draped across the canyons and we went right through. We called them Whooptidos.
We have something similar here near me in the Jura Mountains / France. But the cars are without a motor and similar to a bicycle and the tracks run through a wooded area. It's less spectacular than in America, but without bee attacks. 😊
Oh damn! That awesome bit of railroad history is in worse condition than I had thought. Lots of landslides and even some washed out bits. I'd be surprised if they ever officially used that line again for anything. Nice video.
Pretty darn cool. Have not walked back there since 2018. It is easier to bring a wheel barrow and rock moving levers with the rail car to help clear the tracks. Let me know I'll help. The wheels can be made to be much lighter weight. I would make the bed an "H" block setup so it is lighter weight and easier to take apart in manageable pieces.
Black Widow Spiders, Brown Recluse Spiders, Rattle Snakes cold warming in the sun, Warm Rattle Snakes trying to het in the shade, Scorpions! Nice Hobby 😊
only things that could make that cart better are some shade, a cooler of drinks, and a chair. also, you''d do well to get some conical wheels, they help a TON on tracks like this!
This looks like great fun! These vid's have got me thinking. We've got a whole rail line up the island that's been unused for decades and goes through some beautiful forest. And I've got a welding shop so not hard to make a cart! I'm thinking something that's an electric and pedal power combo. I've got a DC motor kicking around from a treadmill and lots of old bikes. I just like the quiet over the gas motor. But having the speed, power and range of gas would be nice. Love that scenery. Total opposite of up here on the West Coast. ???: Do you think, for the wheels, some slices of heavy gauge PVC pipe would work as wheels? I was thinking to slip collars over the PVC wheels made out of a larger dia. pipe to act as the inside rail flanges. Maybe rubber over the PVC for the drive wheels for grip. Use appropriate size tubed wheel barrow or dolly tires for the wheels. Slip the PVC slices of these and inflate to hold the PVC rims in place. Would also give a bit of cushion to the ride and quiet things a bit. Any thoughts? (Coffee shop engineering always works perfect in my head! Physics be damned! LOL!! ) I was also thinking a "cattle pusher" of sorts would be good on these. But more like a flat blade to cut the brush you run into and also clear the small rocks, etc from the tracks. Couple arms out front of the cart with a section of wood of steel across the arms, maybe a couple feet out front. Mount a blade on the leading edge. The cutting knives front a wood planer or old sheer knife blades from a sheer at a print shop of news paper printer. Or just some flat bar steel. Have the arms ride just a 1/4" +/- above the rail on some roller blade or skateboard wheels. ...... Now my brain is just getting carried away.... LOL! Happy Holiday's! :D
@@550n440 Funny (maybe almost creepy...LOL!) you mention that! I was just eye-balling the Honda EU 2200 in the garage this morning and wondering if an AC motor or a DC treadmill motor would be a better choice for power/speed/distance per litre of gas. And if bicycle gears and chain would be strong enough to push a light cart.
Wheels for the use on railroad tracks need to be conical in shape. Take a look at this view: 12:51 the shape makes the axles center themselves in between the rails. Cylindrical wheels will run their flanges against the rails all the time, causing lots of friction, consuming all the energy.
@@TDCflyer Yes, I know and agree. But as an initial test project, simple to fab cylinders with flanges with do the trick. Should it work out and if there's enough distance to travel and enough enjoyment had from it, I'll fab some proper shaped wheels. 🙂👍
HOW many times has UA-cam given me an off the rails new hobby to try? :) Going to checkout some of our very rare unused tracks in CT next week. Well see!
In the UK they would have a steam loco running trips for tourists on that line, we have the KWVR just down the road, From where live we can here them chugging up the Hill to Haworth, where the Bronte sisters lived. A come along, a jack and pry bar would have been useful.
Form a Cart Club. Encourage like minded people to make their own cart. Prepare a comfortable seat for four. Arrange travel on holidays. You can remove the stones. Once you reach a tunnel take five minutes break.
I have ALWAYS wanted to build and ride one of these, but here in the PNW we hardly have any abandoned railroads - or at least ones that are still intact
Beautiful place! Mystical! Historical! Mysterious! Is this road abandoned? For what reason? How long have you been visiting this road, in November of this year?
Awesome video. Way too neat. I am working with some of my engineering students to construct one! Any tips for finding conical wheels/substitutes for them?
That so much of this railroad, in this climate and without maintenance, is still traversable is a testament to those who built it,
The area is frequented by floods and earthquakes. That's why it has had to be rebuilt so many times and will probably never be rebuilt again.@dammitbobby283
@dammitbobby283 And flash floods.
Being American, lets start with the quality of the steel :)
It's currently not traversable, and it has had maintenance. Every RR that's operated there has sunk gazillions of dollars into the thing. No operator of that line has ever turned a profit. Current attempt is the City of San Diego, owners the right of way, contracted with Baja Rail, the Mexican company that owns the portion of the line south of the border. The Mexican company will repair damage to, and then operate the line on both sides of the border. That agreement is just a few years old. No progress yet on either side. I'm not expecting that project to ever go anywhere.
BUT - Lots of hikers in the area have reported (on enthusiast websites) that the SD county sheriff patrols and tickets hikers/bikers/rail carts and other trespassers. It's a $400 fine. Unverified speculation is that the Mexicans are contracting with the Sheriff's dept for patrol. That's not unheard of at all, and in many places very common. The LA county sheriff (and I'm sure the SDCo Sheriff as well) contracts with hundreds of companies and municipalities for service.
Got nothing to do with that... it's a testament to the steadiness of the ground it is built upon. Note as soon as a wash was found, the track for gonski.
The hard work was building it though those canyons and making the tunnels. It's only still there by the grace of mother nature. In all honesty, they were pretty flimsy railways built back then. The real works of art are the trestles... they are marvels and a testament to the people who built them so long back.
Unreal tunnels... Really beautifully designed and built
What a cool rig and amazing ride! ❤
This is like, the American version of British narrowboat canal touring.
Without the bunks, stove , drinks cabinet or porta potti.
Have you ever come across any serious dangers like wild animals?
This is honestly one of my bucket list items. I'm a young disabled lady from England who is obsessed with the US wild West and the deserts and railtracks and history of it all. I can't think of a better way to spend a day than this video...thanks for uploading
No wild animal problems. Wild people problems yes
@@ryanrandomness😂😂😂 that took a turn 😂😂😂
This is great, it is so relaxing to watch these videos. I love what you do.
Fantastic bit of filming. Wish we had this opportunity in the UK but we just tare all our old lines up 😳 thanks for posting 🤟
Yeah I wish we could do this as well. Would also make it much easier to re-open any lines that have been previously closed.
It may be easier to pick up his cart and move it over or around the rock rather than moving boulders 😊
I just wonder how he stops in a hurry or at all? Because I didn't see any brakes on his cart! Especially if you are going down hill?
@@rickstephens1130
Foot, meet wheel, wheel, foot.
Imagine how quiet and peaceful it is way out there... away from the sounds of the city, etc
Yeah. It's too damn noisy.
Amazing landscapes, thanks for sharing !!
I enjoyed the tranquility of this ride even from my UA-cam arm chair. That would be a very cool desert adventure. Like being on an old steam train of old.
Thank you for sharing this. This made my day one of the best things I’ve seen on UA-cam in quite a while. This ride must have been amazing and fun.
Our San Diego County deserts are awesome!
indeed, Mexico, whether occupied or unoccupied, it's always beautiful
This is amazing!!! So much better than having to hike 14 miles round trip!
Yes, that's why I originally made the cart
Thank you for clearing what you could.
That trip is on my bucket list.
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The tunnels are really superbly built, as if they had only been opened yesterday. Bridges too. TY 4 VID
That was breathtaking watching it on my mobile phone screen so I can only imagine how breathtaking it would have been to be there in person 🤩. Thanks for allowing us to come along for the ride.
Thank you for this wonderful video so relaxing.
thanks for sharing a part of your adventure!
You need to bring a long pry bar along to move rocks
And some water and gas.
I had the same thought but no, their rig is light enough to just pick up and lift/portage over/around all but the worst of obstructions. When they got to the end, the long, rocking washout, I thought they could dismount and roll the cart but no harm, no foul for not trying that. Also, it looks like they didn't have a hand control they could have used from the side of the car, dismounted, so even mo' sketchy!
@@user-od9iz9cv1w Or black powder . Might encourage more rocks though .
Some dynamite😊
Great footage! Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
Wow what a hobby! Some of the views from the higher more open sections of track are pretty spectacular
Cool video! You need a Gorn to throw those big rocks off the tracks. 😀
I would easily become addicted to this activity. Just awesome
I can picture being on an old steam chain going down those tracks it would be an amazing ride.
A stunning ride. Loved the tunnels. Well built railroad. Too bad for the total blockage.
Thanks for watching!
Appreciations to the engineers who have designed and built those tunnels.
We have seen some very primitive man built structures last 1000+ years out west. Those should last alot longer...as long as geology doesn't eat them first :)
Br still in good shape the approachs are the hand rail cable wow.
I’ve hiked in to the trestle…..it’s a beautiful walk!!
Very beautiful scenery :)
I like.
these speeder vids are allways good to watch goat tressel rr very interesting it amazeing the track is still there not turned into been cans ttfn&ty
Now if only you had a canopy on that cart and a case of beer.🤠
Класс! Спасибо за видео! Смелые вы мужики! 🙂
What a nice way to see the country side, and its free! A few rock falls to negotiate ! Even extra track if ure into fixing, need tools though ! Picture was a bit fuzzy, but good relaxing video !! 👏👏👍👍
really nice and relaxing video.
Excellent video, I really liked it ahow de ball
LOVE the railcart!
I rode this line from the East San Diego side in the early 1990s on a mountain bike. This was before the line was modernized and used briefly by UP freight trains.
At that time, many of the tunnels were blocked and from the video, the trestle has incurred more damage from slides since the line was shut down again
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Nothing like biking across the many bridges and looking almost straight down the gorge through the catwalks.
Thanks for the cool video!
Fascinating video.
Got to love the Harbor Freight motor. Reexploring the west with Chinese manufacturing.
Great hobby sir! I've imagined riding on an abandoned RR in a handcar since I saw it on Petticoat Junction in the early 70s.
I am so pleased to see the railroad tracks be used. Such a waste to let them sit.
Loved water tower still being there.
We used to have a clear path all the way up to almost the top. The final tunnel was completely blocked. That was back in the 70s. Most of the tressels were gone. Just the track and the ties still all connected draped across the canyons and we went right through. We called them Whooptidos.
We have something similar here near me in the Jura Mountains / France. But the cars are without a motor and similar to a bicycle and the tracks run through a wooded area. It's less spectacular than in America, but without bee attacks. 😊
That was great... i live in Los Angeles, and in 2 years i will be doing this when i retire...
i would love to go up there for 1 month as a volunteer and help clear the tracks. i know it's dangerous but imagine the fun.
Oh damn! That awesome bit of railroad history is in worse condition than I had thought. Lots of landslides and even some washed out bits. I'd be surprised if they ever officially used that line again for anything. Nice video.
Pretty darn cool. Have not walked back there since 2018. It is easier to bring a wheel barrow and rock moving levers with the rail car to help clear the tracks. Let me know I'll help. The wheels can be made to be much lighter weight. I would make the bed an "H" block setup so it is lighter weight and easier to take apart in manageable pieces.
2:35 amazing shot to 2:40. Crazy . New sub and i love this video
Black Widow Spiders, Brown Recluse Spiders, Rattle Snakes cold warming in the sun, Warm Rattle Snakes trying to het in the shade, Scorpions! Nice Hobby 😊
lol, maybe you just shouldn't go outside then
I’ve hiked a good bit of what you showed, but that was quite a few years ago. Then they had work engines go through trying to keep hikers out.
That was amazing, thanks for the ride
How Friggin cool is this!!??
I like small carts you can carry around easily. Also those seem to be proper conic wheels too. Good job! 👍
I knew the man who ran the SP crew for the gorge back in the 60's and 70's. He lived in Jacumba until his passing a few years back.
ما اجمل ان يعيش الشخص في مثل هكذا طبيعة حيث الهدوء والسكينة
That looks like good fun
This is amazing.
only things that could make that cart better are some shade, a cooler of drinks, and a chair. also, you''d do well to get some conical wheels, they help a TON on tracks like this!
Awesome video ! 👍
10.21 If possible show the bridges from below. That may be another marvel of yesteryears.
Nice ride but was disappointed you went all the way to the big trestle and didn’t film it…..?
02:08 🤩👌 Having the Django soundtrack in my mind.
muy bonitos paisajes gracias
Awesome adventures!
Add some swing-down/up wheels and a handle up front to portage around the slides. Looks like loads of fun!
Nothing to block the sun lol your a savage!!
That's really cool
Thanks for the video
Very Nice 🎉❤
Love it so exciting.
This looks like great fun! These vid's have got me thinking. We've got a whole rail line up the island that's been unused for decades and goes through some beautiful forest. And I've got a welding shop so not hard to make a cart! I'm thinking something that's an electric and pedal power combo. I've got a DC motor kicking around from a treadmill and lots of old bikes. I just like the quiet over the gas motor. But having the speed, power and range of gas would be nice. Love that scenery. Total opposite of up here on the West Coast.
???: Do you think, for the wheels, some slices of heavy gauge PVC pipe would work as wheels? I was thinking to slip collars over the PVC wheels made out of a larger dia. pipe to act as the inside rail flanges. Maybe rubber over the PVC for the drive wheels for grip. Use appropriate size tubed wheel barrow or dolly tires for the wheels. Slip the PVC slices of these and inflate to hold the PVC rims in place. Would also give a bit of cushion to the ride and quiet things a bit.
Any thoughts? (Coffee shop engineering always works perfect in my head! Physics be damned! LOL!! )
I was also thinking a "cattle pusher" of sorts would be good on these. But more like a flat blade to cut the brush you run into and also clear the small rocks, etc from the tracks. Couple arms out front of the cart with a section of wood of steel across the arms, maybe a couple feet out front. Mount a blade on the leading edge. The cutting knives front a wood planer or old sheer knife blades from a sheer at a print shop of news paper printer. Or just some flat bar steel. Have the arms ride just a 1/4" +/- above the rail on some roller blade or skateboard wheels.
...... Now my brain is just getting carried away.... LOL!
Happy Holiday's! :D
Electric with a small quiet (Honda) generator and a solar panel would be awesome.
@@550n440 Funny (maybe almost creepy...LOL!) you mention that! I was just eye-balling the Honda EU 2200 in the garage this morning and wondering if an AC motor or a DC treadmill motor would be a better choice for power/speed/distance per litre of gas. And if bicycle gears and chain would be strong enough to push a light cart.
Forget PVC, just use good solid steel. PVC will shatter instantly!
Wheels for the use on railroad tracks need to be conical in shape. Take a look at this view: 12:51 the shape makes the axles center themselves in between the rails. Cylindrical wheels will run their flanges against the rails all the time, causing lots of friction, consuming all the energy.
@@TDCflyer Yes, I know and agree. But as an initial test project, simple to fab cylinders with flanges with do the trick. Should it work out and if there's enough distance to travel and enough enjoyment had from it, I'll fab some proper shaped wheels. 🙂👍
Cool job ryan ... with this video had a million views
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HOW many times has UA-cam given me an off the rails new hobby to try? :) Going to checkout some of our very rare unused tracks in CT next week. Well see!
In the UK they would have a steam loco running trips for tourists on that line, we have the KWVR just down the road, From where live we can here them chugging up the Hill to Haworth, where the Bronte sisters lived. A come along, a jack and pry bar would have been useful.
Why does this give me Fallout new vegas vibes with a huge flavour if red dead redemption. 😊 love this
Thank you very much for the ride
What an awesome cool way to pass some time outdoors and see nature!!
This is how I want to travel to school
So cool!
I would pay you to take me on a run with you!! So cool!
This is so cool. Lesson for us in the UK see what you can achieve if you stopped ripping up our disused lines 😮
Interesting to watch thanks. I didn't see "we" giving a lot of help when we moved rocks and stuffs off the track.... but at 7:00 I did get to see him!
Maybe the stronger guy just wanted to show off his strength!😂😂😂
These dudes are quite strong!!
Without real money and re-design, that line is done.
Line closed in 2008. I assume large freight once used it. Great video!
I have seen a video of a work crew working on it in 2012.
Form a Cart Club. Encourage like minded people to make their own cart. Prepare a comfortable seat for four. Arrange travel on holidays. You can remove the stones. Once you reach a tunnel take five minutes break.
This old train track was in my dreams over and over again, but they weren’t good dreams…:
I really like watching your videos, just wish you would talk about some of the things you are seeing.
Is it possible to have backup by road?
Fabulous; although, one of the tunnel entrances (not to mention the rock slides) looked a tad ominous.
marcus
Can you amagine the labor and man power used? 😮
I don’t know where everyone is getting their wheels. This is great I wish there were more tutorials on building this
Have to make them
Need a canopy from the 🌞.. what do you do if you break down? Thats a long haul back😵💫 great video looks like great time!
I've thought about a canopy. Haven't had a major breakdown yet. I'll cross that bridge when it happens
I have ALWAYS wanted to build and ride one of these, but here in the PNW we hardly have any abandoned railroads - or at least ones that are still intact
Beautiful place! Mystical! Historical! Mysterious! Is this road abandoned? For what reason? How long have you been visiting this road, in November of this year?
Awesome video. Way too neat. I am working with some of my engineering students to construct one! Any tips for finding conical wheels/substitutes for them?
@ about 10:20, the bridge… any idea when it was built?
Would they ever fix the line great ride
Great video - but when do we get to see the Goat Canyon Trestle ???
As soon as they see your using those tracks they will shut you down. I hope not stay safe and have FUN!!