Exploring an Abandoned Railroad and the Johnson Canyon Tunnel

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  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR Місяць тому +599

    Anyone else hit that Thumbs Up as soon as the vid starts? Because you know it's going to be good.

  • @frank3362
    @frank3362 Місяць тому +183

    The crater at 3:20 is not a sink hole it's a maar volcano caused by rising magma interacting with groundwater and causing a big steam explosion. That whole area is volcanic with many basalt lava flows. The black rock exposed on the edges of the crater is a basalt lava flow that the explosion blew through. I'm a geologist/volcanologist.

    • @nannerz1994
      @nannerz1994 Місяць тому +5

      Really I would have never guessed!

    • @EricT3769
      @EricT3769 Місяць тому +5

      Thanks, Frank. That’s pretty cool. I never knew that about that area.

    • @mkay1957
      @mkay1957 Місяць тому +3

      Have you ever spent time in the Sierras and seen how volcanic activity created much of the landscape?

    • @bytornsnowdog2112
      @bytornsnowdog2112 Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your clarification.

    • @NYSteve
      @NYSteve Місяць тому +4

      "volcanologist"- did you ever meet Spock?

  • @Quadrille763
    @Quadrille763 Місяць тому +233

    The ironwork in the tunnel is beautiful

    • @heyoldman2003
      @heyoldman2003 Місяць тому +10

      my thought too . never seen a tunnel like it . built to
      last !

    • @angelmist4253
      @angelmist4253 Місяць тому +2

      Yes it's very well built.

    • @bsideberg6082
      @bsideberg6082 Місяць тому +6

      A fire in the early 1900’s destroyed the support beams in the tunnel so the railroad used boiler plate to fix it.

    • @heyoldman2003
      @heyoldman2003 Місяць тому

      @@bsideberg6082 a very expensive fix i bet … but permanent 😎

    • @carlachambers3771
      @carlachambers3771 Місяць тому +13

      Workers took pride in their jobs,back then❤

  • @3rdsamdan
    @3rdsamdan Місяць тому +262

    The writing inside the tunnel was surveyor markings. I believe the P.C.C. abbreviation stands for “Point of Compound Curvature” which is the point at which two different centerline radii meet. I am less sure but I believe the degrees and minutes posted define one of the two radii and represent the angle that defines a centerline chord length of 100’. Since surveyors can’t measure around the arc of the centerline, they chose to define the curves they laid out by “Chord Definition” (straight lines).
    Love your videos !!!!!!

    • @srf2112
      @srf2112 Місяць тому +17

      Wow thank you for that detailed, insightful information.

    • @shelzp7272
      @shelzp7272 Місяць тому +7

      @rdsam Thanks for explaining this to us. I travel the US on Amtrak and claim to be a train lover but I didn’t know anything about this although I have wondered how they did it. 🎶

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios Місяць тому +16

      That's exactly right! I earned my B.S.C.E. in 1986, Univ. of Minnesota.

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios Місяць тому +21

      BTW a 10 degree curve is very sharp for a mainline railroad. Given the 2.1% grade and that curve, I would expect that freight trains came through here at about 25 MPH.

    • @tomrope2613
      @tomrope2613 Місяць тому +12

      As a surveyor myself, I would concur with this statement. Great Video!

  • @heavenlysonshine
    @heavenlysonshine Місяць тому +288

    How in the hell do you find all these miniscule details of these abandoned places? Hats off to you for your research, etc.

    • @3henry214
      @3henry214 Місяць тому +17

      I agree... Steve's ability to do the research and ferret out all of this background history is amazing. I'd love to have him as a genealogist to help fill in my family tree!!

    • @aaronsmith5600
      @aaronsmith5600 Місяць тому +18

      I live a 100 miles away from Johnson's tunnel and you would be surprised at all the old stuff we have in our area.. Hopefully he went to Steel dam and Stone dam which are just down the road. They are pretty impressive

    • @redlegds_adventures
      @redlegds_adventures Місяць тому +5

      Amen!!

    • @JP-su8bp
      @JP-su8bp Місяць тому +6

      Agreed!

    • @royreynolds108
      @royreynolds108 Місяць тому +6

      There are a lot of books covering railroads including the construction of the predecessor companies.

  • @themindofmr.h9929
    @themindofmr.h9929 Місяць тому +62

    This is the kind of thing that should be on PBS television

    • @LJR7225
      @LJR7225 29 днів тому +2

      Yes indeed, instead of the usual liberal crap!

  • @gregmannos
    @gregmannos Місяць тому +165

    That piece of metal is used to bolt two pieces of track together. Thanks for the video !

    • @RobRoyRoadie
      @RobRoyRoadie Місяць тому +36

      Yes, that’s a track fishplate, also called a splice bar.

    • @gus473
      @gus473 Місяць тому +7

      13:50 Yup, splice!

    • @fountainvalley100
      @fountainvalley100 Місяць тому +15

      Also called a joint bar.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +19

      Thanks for letting me know. I know its been quite some time, but I'm surprised at how good of a job they did removing the track (of course they may have tossed stuff down in the canyon as far as I know).

    • @rustygunner8282
      @rustygunner8282 Місяць тому +11

      That was back in the day before welded track.

  • @davidlasanen7690
    @davidlasanen7690 Місяць тому +130

    in 1959 me and two friends went from detroit to needles calif route 66 started in chicago we drove in a 1950 ford. we probly drove that stretch of highway. oh does this bring back some memories.
    i really enjoy all of your adventures very much cause you really do your research as well as explaining everything in great detail.
    god bless and keep them comming,
    respectfully
    David Lasanen

    • @sailingaeolus
      @sailingaeolus Місяць тому +6

      Mind if I ask your age, friend?

    • @royreynolds108
      @royreynolds108 Місяць тому +8

      @@sailingaeolus I am guessing he is about 85 to 90 or so as I graduated from high school in 1964 and am now 77.

    • @Torrque
      @Torrque Місяць тому +1

      The stretch of 66 he points out and was on was already abandoned by 1959.

    • @PlanetRockJesus
      @PlanetRockJesus Місяць тому +1

      I loved this video as well. I hitched Route 66 from my hometown Chicago to LA twice. Once in 1969 and again in 1970.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 29 днів тому +1

      @@PlanetRockJesus Hitchhiking used to be a good way to get around. In 1976 my brother lucked out hitching from Sacramento CA to Greenville SC with 5 rides in 4 days, driving in shifts for two of them. In St. Louis MO his ride dropped him off at a truck stop where he overheard a guy on a pay phone saying he'd be in Greenville in a couple days as he'd need to sleep. When he hung up my brother asked him which "Greenville" as it's a common city name and they traveled non-stop from there. Folks don't stop to pick up riders anymore, kind of sad what the world's come to.

  • @dennisconrad6124
    @dennisconrad6124 Місяць тому +26

    Steve, I’ve been a UA-cam junkie for 10+ years. Your videos are second to none. Your research, story telling, and editing make your videos enjoyable to watch.

  • @raphtze
    @raphtze Місяць тому +83

    that's a "fishplate" used to join 2 rails together. older way of doing it. nowadays it's continuous rail ....or if they have to replace a section, there is thermite welding which will effectively join two rails into 1 continuous rail.

    • @glennfoster2423
      @glennfoster2423 Місяць тому +6

      Also known as an "angle bar".

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 Місяць тому +2

      @@glennfoster2423 or "Joint bar". "Fishplate" fell out of use over a century ago.

    • @Denpachii
      @Denpachii 29 днів тому

      @@evanstauffer4470 Fishplate is the only name I have ever heard for it.
      And I am not that old.

    • @davegillman6296
      @davegillman6296 26 днів тому +1

      @@evanstauffer4470fish plate still used in the United Kingdom gets its name from the old fish bellied rails from the early days of railways

  • @dravur
    @dravur Місяць тому +95

    Been there many times, You were also very close to one of only 3 steel dams in the US and there is an old cemetery up there. Also, the trail used to be washed out about a mile before the tunnel.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +56

      I'm going to head back out to the dam soon, there is something else out there I want to check out as well.

    • @dravur
      @dravur Місяць тому +10

      @@SidetrackAdventures There is also a "ceramic" dam just upstream from the Steel dam. Ive never found the Cemetary up there for the workers, but I think I know roughly where it is.

    • @erwingreven627
      @erwingreven627 Місяць тому +4

      @@dravur I've been to the steel dam also, great place to stop and look around. We are train buffs. I'm going back again and next time I want to get to the tunnel.

    • @cdd4248
      @cdd4248 Місяць тому +7

      The cemetary sounds worth the trip!

    • @boboneill4828
      @boboneill4828 Місяць тому

      @@erwingreven627do you drive in like Steve did?

  • @peterjones3177
    @peterjones3177 Місяць тому +32

    As Australian it's good to see there are normal people in America love looking at history

    • @ghostlyimageoffear6210
      @ghostlyimageoffear6210 Місяць тому +4

      We're being displaced and replaced at an accelerated rate. Enjoy it for the time being 🥲

    • @ubroberts5541
      @ubroberts5541 Місяць тому +2

      Well of course.

    • @Nomadcreations
      @Nomadcreations Місяць тому +1

      True History, Yes instead Of The opposite In Too Many School Books...

    • @gerrylopez5743
      @gerrylopez5743 21 день тому

      There’s a lot of people here in the USA many good, normal and some woke libtards just like the rest of the world.

  • @irashiflett
    @irashiflett Місяць тому +69

    I've driven past the sign for Ashfork on the I-40 many times not knowing anything about the old railroad bed. I really appreciate your commentary, sort of bringing history to life in a new and interesting way.

    • @denyscpoyner
      @denyscpoyner Місяць тому +3

      Parts of the abandoned railway can be seen while driving on I -40

    • @michaelmorgan7893
      @michaelmorgan7893 Місяць тому +4

      I used to see part of the old roadbed and abutments (trestles removed) west of Ash Fork on Interstate 40 in the late 70s. Part of 66 was still in service at that time, and there was a grade crossing on Route 66 where the main line for Phoenix would cross. In 1979, it was protected by wig wag signals.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +7

      It's worth a quick detour to stop by the Route 66 museum at Ash Fork if you have a little extra time. It's not big but it has some pretty cool stuff from the area.

  • @annetterobinson2853
    @annetterobinson2853 Місяць тому +40

    My father was a brakeman/conductor with the Santa Fe RR Co in WWII. Prior to his being accepted by the Railman union he was a "Bull"...a railroad security man. He worked this line as well as the railyards at the California end.
    When he was a brakeman on a freight train he was in a run-away accident, probably in Johnson Canyon. His back was broken and he spent several months in a full body cast but no paralysis.
    His route was from Gallup, NM to Los Angeles and Gallup east to somewhere.
    During WWII, after his accident he was the conductor on many troop trains moving American troops as well as German POWs.
    He loved the railman's life...hard and dangerous but always moving.

    • @Glenn-m1t
      @Glenn-m1t Місяць тому +3

      Sure got lucky with that broken back!! Wow!!! Both my parents were Santa Fe employees and my grandfather started working for the railroad when he was 13 selling donuts on the trains!!!
      I don't remember how long he work for them but I think that it was a record and he got a awesome gold toy train and a beautiful watch for his retirement!!!
      In Winslow the railroad was everything and now the station is a really beautiful hotel!!!

    • @annetterobinson2853
      @annetterobinson2853 29 днів тому +2

      @@williamstamper442 You are correct. He used to tell us as a conductor during WWII that it was so sad to see the troops, all scared and sometimes acting with bravado, going off to the Pacific theater. In the war, German POWS were moved all around the country to disorient them so escape would be almot impossible. My dad commented that you could not tell the difference in the German POWs from American soldiers, same expression of fear and some bravado if you didn't hear them speak. Made him even more angry at Hitler and the Nazism.
      Being a brakeman on those freight trains meant that the brakeman walked the top of the box cars, setting manual brakes. On passenger trains the brakes were set in the walkthru between cars.
      Thank technology today for electrically controlled brakes and added safety.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Місяць тому +51

    Re: The fill west of Johnson Canyon tunnel. Normally railroads would dump fill over a wooden trestle; especially before trucks and earthmovers were common, it was common to build a wooden trestle, lay a track on it, and then haul fill material onto the bridge with side-dump hopper cars. This is the first I've heard of a steel trestle being buried, but from the photo you showed, it looks spindly enough that the ATSF may have decided to bury it rather than reinforce it when they started bringing in heavy engines like 350 ton 2-10-2's in the 1920s.

    • @TimCoahran
      @TimCoahran Місяць тому +10

      We've done that on the Alaska Railroad, too - fill in through some bridges leaving most of the structure in place. You want to remove (or bury) the uppermost couple feet, though, so they don't snag on the track tamper machines.

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios Місяць тому +2

      @@TimCoahran - That's interesting.

    • @honthirty_
      @honthirty_ 26 днів тому

      Nice opinion, light on facts.

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios 25 днів тому

      @@honthirty_ - Do you have data to share?

  • @Acceleronics
    @Acceleronics Місяць тому +53

    This is an exceptionally good video! I've been interested in abandoned structures my whole life, but lack the patience to get to them. Thanks, Steve!

  • @perrytheplatypus8802
    @perrytheplatypus8802 Місяць тому +9

    Hi, I live in New Zealand. Your video's inspired my wife and I and we just returned from a three week road trip to the US including a few of the places you have featured in California, Nevada, Utah and Arizona. It was a great trip and we visited places we would never have known about without your video's, Thanks!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +3

      The is awesome to hear. Hope you had a great time and I'm glad I was able to help you out.

  • @beberuiz5432
    @beberuiz5432 12 днів тому +2

    My grandfather once told me
    You learn something new every day !!
    So I Thank You for sharing this video . I learn something at 75 years old

  • @gordocarbo
    @gordocarbo Місяць тому +8

    As a 70s kid was fascinated with early trains, structures, how they came up with processing iron gold, engines you name it. They had so much less to work with yet over 100 yrs later still standing and looking good. American pride baby!

  • @scottpearce8772
    @scottpearce8772 Місяць тому +34

    ... Another glorious Wednesday with Steve, thanks for taking us along with you...

  • @worthweant6993
    @worthweant6993 Місяць тому +14

    I love watching this guy! He's so chill, and has a great voice, and does his homework! On all the areas that he explores! Thankyou!

  • @donalddodson7365
    @donalddodson7365 Місяць тому +21

    Thank you, again, Steve. Your content is so well written, recorded and produced. I can no longer travel as I used to, and vicariously traveling with you (all) is fantastic! (I imagine by WW2 the guard post would have had a radio and even daily replacements, until snow or other troubles blocked the tracks.)

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +7

      Thank you, I truly appreciate it. I wish I could have found more info on the guard post. I wondered how many people were there. It's so remote there, the train coming by was probably the only excitement for the day.

    • @donalddodson7365
      @donalddodson7365 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@SidetrackAdventures There were nights on Perimeter Guard Duty in Vietnam when the highpoint was a Jeep with coffee and sandwiches. And then there were the moonless nights with the unknown sounds ...

    • @louispaparella5766
      @louispaparella5766 Місяць тому

      @@donalddodson7365 and you knew the Gooks had eyeballs on you...

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому +1

      @@donalddodson7365 Cant even fathom what you all went through over there! Saw a documentary on Tunnel Rats that blew my mind.
      To hear todays online brats claim they got ptsd ot trauma from their daddy yelling to get a job is an insult to brave men like yourself.
      Thanks

  • @robertfitch310
    @robertfitch310 Місяць тому +5

    I really enjoy your work. My traveling days are over now at almost 71 and improper medication caused small stroke, can’t drive and do have my rural log cabin home in the coastal Redwoods to take care of. Blessed to have been to most every state in the nation and western/ eastern Canada. 🌲⛰👨‍🌾🇺🇸✝️ Been to Williams, Az!

  • @chi773guy
    @chi773guy 7 днів тому

    Hi Steve. I have watched a few of your videos. I just wanted to thank you for the work and professionalism you put into making this content available to us.

  • @patlively7982
    @patlively7982 Місяць тому +3

    Nice, over the years we have hiked in to the tunnel with scouts and spent the night several times (it gets very dusty with a bunch of kids shuffling their feet. I hope that you were able to visit the nearby stone and steel dams that were also built for the railroad, the steel dam is the only one of its kind that is standing in the west and I believe it is made of the same type of boiler plate used in the tunnel. Both are right off the old 66. Lots of history on that train line, as it also ran through Canyon Diablo.

  • @Edward-bq6bk
    @Edward-bq6bk 11 днів тому

    Just discovered your channel,and cant wait to watch all your videos. I live in and love the southwest and always wanted to explore every little abandoned area. Unfortunately life has thrown me a curve and made walking these trails nearly impossible. Thank you for being my legs and making me feel like im on a adventure!

  • @walterbruton2825
    @walterbruton2825 Місяць тому +4

    The piece of metal with the four holes in it it’s called a joint bar. They are used to connect to pieces of rail of rail together one on each side of the rail joint with bolts going through it. I’ve been railroad for 30 years.

  • @E3ECO
    @E3ECO Місяць тому +17

    I love looking at old infrastructure. It speaks to the past.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому

      Im amazed at the amount of effort, pride of workmanship back then.
      We dont see that these days...those people were tough!

  • @michaelberger8137
    @michaelberger8137 Місяць тому +23

    Easily the prettiest train tunnel I've ever seen!

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому +2

      Agree that is gorgeous! Done by hand which blows me away.
      Depressing seeing young morons defacing the tunnel, they dont know nor give a crap about history.

    • @Rasakson
      @Rasakson Місяць тому +2

      maybe prettiest for us standards but there are a lot prettier ones in europe

  • @AbandonedMines11
    @AbandonedMines11 21 день тому

    That distant shot of the tunnel as you were approaching it around 16:24 was pretty spectacular! The iron ceiling was also pretty awesome to see. Interesting that they had to lower the tunnel floor at one point. Nice video, Steve!

  • @thomasalexander5936
    @thomasalexander5936 Місяць тому +24

    WOW!
    It’s really good to see that something so historical is untouched by the ignorant hands of spray painters and vandals

    • @Mark-jl6tl
      @Mark-jl6tl Місяць тому +2

      Sadly, it’s getting close. There’s much more rattle-can vandalism than there was the last time I was there years ago. Many of the concrete abutments and older remnants of the tracks and other railroad-related structures further west are slowly succumbing to these lowlifes and their perception of art.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому +2

      Looked to be plenty of that in the tunnel. Makes me ill.
      ZIon area is covered with graffiti all ove those beautiful rock formations.

    • @Mark-jl6tl
      @Mark-jl6tl Місяць тому

      @@gordocarboI don’t like seeing it anywhere!! To me, it’s just urban blight. But if they would at least have the decency to keep it out and away from open or natural places. But I suppose that’s asking too much.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому +2

      @@Mark-jl6tl Agree. Here in La, socal it would be racist if laws prosecuted over it anymore which they dont.
      Seeing it on historic landmarks makes me ill. Who raises these people!

    • @Katnip452
      @Katnip452 21 день тому

      Not for long

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 Місяць тому +2

    I followed along on Google maps because I absolutely love seeing where train tracks used to be or train tracks that aren't used anymore. Cool to see how the new and the old route differ. One of my favorite things ever is seeing evidence of things that are no more on Google maps

  • @charleshaggard4341
    @charleshaggard4341 Місяць тому +6

    The craftsmanship that the overhead ironwork has is unbelievably perfect and mesmerizing. Another great video because I really like the history of old abandoned roads and railroads and your narration of it is just right.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому

      Beautiful, imagine having to drive those rivets in. Those guys were badazzes.

  • @mkay1957
    @mkay1957 Місяць тому +2

    That was an interesting presentation of a railroad from days gone by. Me and a couple of buddies used to hike along old railbeds, like the Sacramento Northern route that started in Oakland and ran through the hills, up through Sacramento and up past Chico, with a number of spurs along the way.
    We found a lot of old glass insulators along the route on the back side of the Oakland hills.
    Up here in the Sierras where I now live, there are hundreds of miles of old rail beds built by logging railroads. There are still a few trestles out in the forest, and many of railroad right of ways were later widened by the US Forest Service and turned into roads after the rails were gone.

  • @AngryBean8462
    @AngryBean8462 Місяць тому +5

    Yeah, I agree about what you said about the sound of a train on a defunct railway. I had a Stand by Me reaction when I heard it!
    Great adventure, Steve!

    • @NYSteve
      @NYSteve Місяць тому

      in a ghostly sort of way

  • @gmr5480
    @gmr5480 15 днів тому

    We live in Williams and are still amazed at what we learn about this area. Love the research you do.

  • @aaronk534
    @aaronk534 Місяць тому +30

    You kick ass ssss! Thank you. Love your channel. Im glad its growing. Sub for years

  • @TOOMUCHSAUCE91
    @TOOMUCHSAUCE91 Місяць тому +2

    I have never disliked any of this guy's videos.... literally the best 20 minutes spent of my day.

  • @elizabethrowe7262
    @elizabethrowe7262 Місяць тому +6

    Great video. Love the American history always entertaining. From Australia!

  • @whatwhyme
    @whatwhyme 23 дні тому +1

    Watching in the UK, I have been saying for ages I just wish someone did old history about America and I've come across your videos absolutely brilliant I'm hooked thanks keep up the great work 👍

  • @markharris6171
    @markharris6171 Місяць тому +5

    That POC is Point of Curve and the degree. I always enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.

  • @skellam8010
    @skellam8010 18 днів тому +1

    Anyone else start the video going, "I don't have time to watch the whole thing.." and then you watched the whole thing? Nice work! Fascinating video and narration.

  • @RailwayProductions
    @RailwayProductions Місяць тому +15

    The “new” line to the north was opened in 1960, and was built to high standards with huge fills and broad sweeping curves.
    Passengers on Amtrak’s Southwest Chief roar along at 90mph unaware of the once-torturous route a few miles to the south.

    • @michaelmorgan7893
      @michaelmorgan7893 Місяць тому +4

      @@RailwayProductions yes, there's a video here on UA-cam that covers that. It was Morrison Knudsen/Santa Fe project. It's called "A Better Way for the Santa Fe"

    • @RailwayProductions
      @RailwayProductions Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelmorgan7893yes indeed! I had forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder!

  • @mikesimmons8762
    @mikesimmons8762 Місяць тому +1

    Well done. The old post card photo was a nice touch. The trestle was most likely just filled in by dumping the fill on top.

  • @bachscar
    @bachscar Місяць тому +22

    Good submission once again, Steve. With all the trekking you do on foot, you must have a pair of sturdy, reliable shoes/boots! Here's a couple of questions for you. First, the abandoned Route 66 and AT&SF rail line you were on. Are they considered public or private pathways? I was curious too about the 'cross country' walking you had to do on the NE corner video where California, Nevada, and Oregon meet. Was that public or private land? Finally, have you done a piece about Fort Ross? I always thought it was cool that a Russian settlement was attempted as far south as Northern California. Thanks again for posting!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +12

      Both Route 66 and the rail bed are public. I believe both are administered by the National Forest Service. in the NE corner that land BLM, so also public. I haven't been to Fort Ross yet.

  • @chipsrafferty8362
    @chipsrafferty8362 Місяць тому +1

    The quality of craftsmanship for the brick arch at the tunnel entrance among other masonry work and the metal tunnel liner is beyond compare.
    It could not be duplicated today.

  • @desertdweller4951
    @desertdweller4951 Місяць тому +4

    Rode that RR trail on quads in 2010 from Ash Fork to Williams.
    Yes through the tunnel.
    It's closer to Williams except the two trussels that collapsed. You have to cross.

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 дні тому

    I would enjoy seeing this and walking down the old line 😊
    Thank You

  • @stevenanderson1500
    @stevenanderson1500 Місяць тому +3

    It probably was the most dangerous around 1890 to 1915, before train air brakes were invented. Great video!

    • @johnwhitley2898
      @johnwhitley2898 Місяць тому

      George Westinghouse invented train/railroad airbrakes in 1869-ish...
      They were standardized and implemented full-time by 1872-ish.
      Federal Regulation and all that rot came a little bit later.....
      As an engineer, he saw too many catastrophic trainwrecks and death. He started working on it in the 1850's when railroads were still new-ish. Just an FYI. There's a lot of physics involved with that amount of steel on wheels on an incline with a power pack! 😬🫤🤔
      That amount of Grade is not forgiving at all!

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Місяць тому +1

    That was a very pretty tunnel with the brickwork and that riveted iron ceiling is just amazing!

  • @jokerquinn104
    @jokerquinn104 Місяць тому +4

    EXCELLENT 👍....YOU GET BETTER & BETTER...😮! ....I LOVE YOUR STORY TELLING 😄....YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK,... PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN YOUR STORIES...👍👍😊

  • @williamkholmes
    @williamkholmes 18 днів тому

    Yes, I also thought that the markings at the beginning of the tunnel referred to the degree of the radius of the curve within the tunnel. You really do great work, please keep it up. Thanks so much!

  • @peter9180
    @peter9180 Місяць тому +20

    That piece of rail looks like a fishplate, these were used to join the rails together, the holes were for the bolts.

  • @garystraiton6738
    @garystraiton6738 Місяць тому +1

    Great stuff.. keep the “old railroad” stuff coming! Especially in “old west” locations?

  • @Robbie-sk6vc
    @Robbie-sk6vc Місяць тому +5

    The son of one of the station agents that was up there in the 40s wrote of his experience growing up there. He died several years ago. But his writing was in a railroad magazine not long before he passed. Very interesting stories!

  • @gpr8695
    @gpr8695 Місяць тому +14

    Thanks again, Steve, I love your videos !!!

  • @tattyshoesshigure5731
    @tattyshoesshigure5731 15 днів тому

    Fascinating video… amazing to see what good shape the tunnel is in after so many years have passed since its construction!

  • @larescats9228
    @larescats9228 Місяць тому +18

    Awesome steve Another great video

  • @douala3769
    @douala3769 17 днів тому

    Congrats sir. You do the past a great and respectful service. Godspeed

  • @stevej7139
    @stevej7139 Місяць тому +12

    Next time I visit my Niece and her family that live in Ash Fork I will have to check that tunnel out, last time I was there I went down into the Grand Canyon at Peach Springs and camped in my 4Runner. It's great to have a side adventure when out and about visiting people, they have 4wheelers as well so we can drive most of the way to the tunnel, the rocks didn't look bad for a high clearance vehicle.

    • @rondolan6457
      @rondolan6457 Місяць тому +1

      Just south of ashfork their the old section of 89 hwy that' still their pretty interesting we found it by accident when we were four Wheeling their also abandoned railroad tracks..the rail road went through Prescott.

    •  Місяць тому +1

      But if you break down out there, will AAA come rescue you?

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 29 днів тому +1

      AAA doesn't cover most unpaved roads,and usually requires their Premier plan for RV's to do that. In places where most roads are gravel or improved dirt they might cover you, I don't know for sure. Standard AAA covers almost nothing, including vehicles with over 1/2 ton carrying capacity. Get the Premier, it's worth it.

  • @Buckshot9796
    @Buckshot9796 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent video Steve! It made me imagine the lives of the people who lived in that hard scrabble kamp. "No church, no jail" says a lot. That walk back up the hill must of been a hard pull after working 10~12 hours of heavy manual labor.

  • @henryhillebrecht9589
    @henryhillebrecht9589 Місяць тому +3

    Great job Steve. you always deliver great history lessons.

  • @allanbeamer7110
    @allanbeamer7110 Місяць тому +1

    After spending the better part of 15 yrs in Dodge City KS (1870's-'80's) my great grandfather moved to Ash Fork where my two great aunts were born in the late 1880's. From there, they ended up in San Diego. He was a blacksmith by trade, and I know they traveled by train (when it was built). Must have come right through there. Cool to think about that. Thanks again! 👍😊

  • @michaeljimenez1203
    @michaeljimenez1203 Місяць тому +6

    Pretty Cool stuff Mr. Sidetrack. Nice little day trip stop. And some History too. It looked like a plesant day for a Hike. Be Safe.

  • @neiljonielunas5069
    @neiljonielunas5069 Місяць тому +1

    I live about 40 miles away, and have been here several times over the years. I’ve discovered many secrets of its past. It’s an amazing place.

  • @daveogarf
    @daveogarf Місяць тому +3

    Utterly fascinating! Thank you!

  • @SPSteve
    @SPSteve 13 днів тому

    I love Arizona's railroad history. Great job, and thanks for taking us along!

  • @Hunterlawrence1
    @Hunterlawrence1 Місяць тому +6

    Once again another fantastic video. Greetings from Mount Gilead, OH.

    • @peterfreeland7643
      @peterfreeland7643 Місяць тому

      my ggggrandfather, a veteran of The War of 1812 and some of his family are buried in Shaucks Cemetery

  • @harleyenjoytheride1324
    @harleyenjoytheride1324 15 днів тому

    I have always enjoyed your video productions. Very informative and interesting it’s like taking a step back in history. Thanks

  • @mikewhite2aadvocacy172
    @mikewhite2aadvocacy172 Місяць тому +11

    Beautiful area and Tunnel

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, and aside from the occasional train and me talking extremely quiet too. We didn't see a single other person after we left Route 66.

  • @Willy-pn3ej
    @Willy-pn3ej Місяць тому +2

    My Grandfather drove trains (steam and diesel) for the AT&SF. He was from Oklahoma and later lived in California. He must have driven this route many times. He always loved being in the great outdoors.

  • @toymaster5464
    @toymaster5464 Місяць тому +6

    Good morning Steve! Enjoying my morning coffee while watching this video! Thank you!

  • @tedkerr2230
    @tedkerr2230 19 днів тому

    I walked every step with you, Steve. I could feel the breeze. Because of you I am an armchair explorer! Keep those videos comin'!

  • @nunyabizznizz7326
    @nunyabizznizz7326 Місяць тому +3

    love your informative videos, especially when in my neck of the woods.....western and nothern az 👍

  • @Bojangles5-2
    @Bojangles5-2 Місяць тому +2

    I don't know why other than it's spectacular that this video is your best, IMO! Your incredible knowledge of your surroundings is very entertaining and enlightening! I applaud you for your fine work here and in all of your other videos!! Thank you!!

  • @charlesyell6318
    @charlesyell6318 Місяць тому +3

    I tell you again you do a great job making great videos . Also a very brave man.

  • @jray9242
    @jray9242 Місяць тому +1

    Steve, I will never be disappointed by your videos. I have lived in CA all my life and never knew the gems surrounding me. As someone who loves history, I learned a lot from watching your videos. As a commercial drone pilot, I enjoy your drone shots and commend you on a job well done shooting them. I am really impressed by them. GREAT JOB!

  • @Garydigsit
    @Garydigsit Місяць тому +6

    I go to the destinations you feature, thank you for videos, G

  • @dieseldirtdude
    @dieseldirtdude Місяць тому +2

    what a coincidence that i started and ended our vacation spending about na week total just north of there on cr124, we made it down to rt 66 road, but i did not know about the old train route and tunnel, ill check that for next summer, thanks again for your efforts steve!

  • @SafetyThirdRC
    @SafetyThirdRC Місяць тому +11

    That was a great video.
    Please peaple, when you visit places like this one tread litely, take only pictures and leave only foot prints.
    Cheers

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому

      Agree...to see the vandalism in that tunnel makes me furious.
      Id have gotten my azz kicked SO bad by my parents as a 70s kid. Holy smokes.
      They woulda forced me to clean it with sand and my hands if they could haha

  • @yetigonecrazy
    @yetigonecrazy Місяць тому +2

    I really enjoy these videos for all the work, research and effort you put into them, but what really makes it gold is the community of commenters that you have gathered, who have even more details/personal stories about the things in the videos! The whole package has made this one of my favorite UA-cam channels out there. Thanks for everything Steve!!

  • @srf2112
    @srf2112 Місяць тому +6

    In Davenport Ca. there's an old trestle bridge that was filled in many years ago leaving the bridge encased inside. I was very surprised when I learned this. I'm assuming it was the most cost effective and I also assume they probably did the same with the trestle bridge near the tunnel in your video.

    • @dougtodd305
      @dougtodd305 Місяць тому +1

      I knew people that worked at the cement plant,I think they supplied the concrete for the Bay bridge and the Golden Gate bridge

    • @srf2112
      @srf2112 Місяць тому

      @@dougtodd305 I hope they're staying g healthy. That's been a closed EPA superfund site for decades. Highly toxic environment.

  • @jimjacobson8758
    @jimjacobson8758 Місяць тому +1

    We spent almost 6 years in Az & traveled extensively through it. I loved it & would’ve spent the rest of my life there. We went to Jerome, Tombstone, Bisbee, Apache Junction, Show Low, Payton, Prescott, & many other places, so much history! We lived in Peoria, Sun City & bought a house that was just built in Glendale. So much to do & see! Unfortunately my wife & daughter had medical issues so we moved back to Minnesota. If I had the chance, I would move back to Az in a heartbeat! Great video, so much history!

    • @trainman1209
      @trainman1209 Місяць тому

      What kind of medical issues did you have, that required moving back to Minnesota?

    • @trainman1209
      @trainman1209 Місяць тому

      I noticed those "old pieces of wood laying around" you filmed were maybe Railroad Ties? Do you know every so often, the RR would hammer in a "date nail"? It would have 2 numbers on it. The 2 numbers would say "80". Which would mean 1880. Or maybe "10". Which would mean 1910. And so on...I would love to have one!

  • @theswabiansimon3425
    @theswabiansimon3425 Місяць тому +14

    i am amazed, the tunnel looks like it´s in relatively good condition consider the age.

    • @dorothylewis1207
      @dorothylewis1207 Місяць тому +4

      Things back then were built to last by MEN who took pride in their work.

    •  Місяць тому +3

      They knew how to build things in those days!

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Місяць тому +1

      @@dorothylewis1207 Heck yes! The women back then were tougher than todays 25 yr old men...with none of the entitled bs we see today.
      Silent generation was the greatest of them all. They have seen everything from covered wagons to cel phones.

  • @roberttucker805
    @roberttucker805 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for this fascinating video. I'm in England and we have miles of abandoned railway lines up and down the country that were mostly closed in the early sixties. A few are being reopened but many were built by small companies back in the 1880's to simply keep rival companies out of their territory and were hopelessly uneconomical almost from the start. I would love to visit your country one day and explore places like this. My dream vacation would be to hire a car and drive from east to west through the small towns and miles of open road. I'm not one for big cities and bright lights but I would be in my element with places like this. Really great video!

  • @frankschultz4170
    @frankschultz4170 Місяць тому +4

    22:40 - typically, fill was dumped on either side and through the trestle to fill the gully in to make a high fill.

  • @AlyxGlide
    @AlyxGlide 22 дні тому

    awesome documentation & thanks for continuing your project beyond SoCal

  • @TNAarchives
    @TNAarchives Місяць тому +4

    Thank you Steve!

  • @josephpalmieri3095
    @josephpalmieri3095 Місяць тому +2

    @gregmannos is correct. 'Rail Joiners' are still used today. Love what you do Steve!

  • @johndaye523
    @johndaye523 Місяць тому +3

    Very interesting. Keep up the good work.

  • @guidor.4161
    @guidor.4161 Місяць тому

    Amazing content, I am fascinated by abandoned tracks and also roads. This comes i think from living in South Africa as a kid. We once walked drove on an abandoned track up a canyon until we reached a tunnel which still had the tracks in. Also we were always looking for signs of previous roads which were usually more curved an crossing back and forth under the newer roads. If they were main roads had just 2 strips of tarmac for the wheels, normal roads being dirt only.

  • @davidregehr3890
    @davidregehr3890 Місяць тому +3

    Great tour

  • @nosurrender4824
    @nosurrender4824 Місяць тому +2

    Wow! That tunnel looks brand new! Talk about American craftsmanship! 🇺🇸💪🏻

  • @Federalwaywebbs
    @Federalwaywebbs Місяць тому +19

    Ok Steve, I know that you know that there is a rare steel dam nearby. I’m hoping that’s next weeks video.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  Місяць тому +9

      Yes, but I didn't go to it on this trip. I will be back in the area pretty soon and plan on checking it out. There should be a dam in next week's video though.

    • @johnnygreene5447
      @johnnygreene5447 Місяць тому +1

      Awesome video 🎉

  • @tiffanygarcia9918
    @tiffanygarcia9918 7 днів тому

    ❤❤love the videos❤❤thank you so much,I'm right by there and I know where my next day trip will be too..❤

  • @paul9156c
    @paul9156c Місяць тому +3

    Your on the right track. It's on the side.

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 Місяць тому

    Such a nice relaxed explore and narration, very pleasant to watch and learn the history.

  • @tonyfranks9551
    @tonyfranks9551 Місяць тому +5

    First Class....cheers.

  • @davidhafner4324
    @davidhafner4324 13 днів тому

    This is such a calm description. Very well done.

  • @proudvirginian
    @proudvirginian Місяць тому +5

    How'd they fill in the gap where the bridge used to be‽ 1930's, remote and it didn't appear they carved out of the mountainside(the post card background looked the same). Very impressive.

    • @capndave9152
      @capndave9152 Місяць тому +5

      The railroad used hopper cars to dump fill on the existing trestle and the rebuilt the right of way when they’d raised the roadbed.