This week's video is being published early as it looks like Flex is starting to show these off at STAFDA (which I think is awesome), go check out VCG's video as well! And as usual, no we don't work with any brands including Flex. So they might be even more surprised we had these than you are
Y'all sharing love to other channels is really stand up of y'all. However, VCG is just way too dramatic and attention seeking for me, but I greatly appreciate the content and approach Y'all have taken to the industry!
Someday, in the distant future, there will be portable tools in the kilovolt class. The mind- (and arm-) bending torque may require entirely new metallurgy for fasteners, and three or more burly men to control. The TTC will by then have become the dominant force in all entertainment, and stadiums will have been converted to torque-dueling arenas, with graphs' y-axes now reaching into tens or even hundreds of kilofoot-pounds (pound-feet having been banned by popular vote). It will be glorious.
@@gorak9000How do you mean? DeWalt is owned by SBD, Flex is owned by Chervon, and Makita is Makita. Sometimes Ridgid tools push their Milwaukee counterparts, but the TTI hierarchy is pretty much set.
Bought the DeWalt based on y'all's review a week after that video came out. Glad to see its still topping charts. Still hits like a little champ for me.
if only there was a kobalt 24v adapter to go use the batteries on flex tools. I want to try some out and use them. Not enthused about having to buy practically the same battery in a new molding while costing a fair bit more though lol. Great vid as always. Video idea for testing pressure washers would be awesome. so many claims of psi and other units of measure yet no validation, especially with the spree of cordless ones that have come out. Comparing against, corded, gas and cordless is something that I and hopefully others would be included to see.
the ironic thing is, psi on a pressure washer usually doesn't mean all that much when it comes to getting work done. A unit with half the psi and double the flow will clean circles around the higher psi model.
with a little 3d printing you could probably make an adapter, ive done it for my harbor freight batteries on some dewalt and hitachi gear and a hart battery on a ryobi
I know in an auto shop weight doesn't matter much. I spent my life working in the hvac trade, all my tools have to be carried to the chiller, boiler, cooling tower, etc that I am working on. Which is usually not very close to were I park. So power per pound would be of interest to me.
I would disagree and say weight does matter in an automotive shop. I mostly concerned with operation though and the initial kick. I'm slightly curious as to what feels better because if you look at some of these tools they ramp so hard which is nice if it gets the fastener off, but I wonder about if it doesn't, how much force is transferred into the user? Maybe the ones with a slightly softer start but then ramps up feel better but I'm really not sure. As far as what you're looking for, all the data is there you just have to divide whichever metric interests you by the weight of that model. Unfortunately, you're not investing into a tool unless you have a consistent workload. They have a few videos on brands like DeWalt and Milwaukee and how much power you need to do certain jobs in their opinion. It seems these days you have to look at the EU for leadership and they seem to invest heavily into worker health and creating standards and determinations on damaging things to workers health in professional environments. It's never really bad to look out for yourself long term. I would say in automotive a lot of times. It's the toll that actually fits that gets used but if there was a choice to have a little bit more weight that lessens the strain on the user it could be worth it as long as the weight isn't what's causing damage either.
The made in Japan Makita Impact Driver uses the same style of fuse. Uncle Bumblefuck has a video of taking one apart and I'm certain it even used a 40A, too.
You know, as a home user, I always reach for the 3/8" air impact instead of my 1/2" air impact, because the 3/8" feels so much more enjoyable with the faster impulse rate. There's something more enjoyable about the smaller, higher frequency impacts. It's purely a subjective experience, but I don't enjoy the clunky slow rattles from the 1/2" impact as much.
I'm so glad you brought attention to the size of their batteries. A tool isn't really compact if there's a huge battery hanging off the end. There really isn't an excuse with the lithium pouch battery. They need at least one compact battery like Dewalt's small powerstack. If you ask me this should be a priority for them. I have their quick eject impact driver, it's still brand new, never used it. There's just way more lighter/smaller (battery) options out there.
I just saw an ad from the local snap-on truck for what appears to be a new stubby 3/8ths impact that advertises 575 lbft. I cant remembered the model number but would be interested to see that comparison.
Flex is in too weird of a spot for me to even consider switching from one of the major brands. I stick with what goes on sale regularly. Nobody asked for my opinion but carry on...
It’s a good point. I like their tools and bought their angle grinder combo because it was cheaper and has better functions than the standard brands at the price point. But their tools and batteries are stupid expensive for such limited range in tools. That makes a high barrier of entry to switch.
Actually that's how I jumped into the Flex bandwagon after only owning 2 major brands. Their Turbo hammerdrill and angle grinder were on sale at ACME a couple months ago where I got both tools , a couple 5Ah batteries, a 2.5Ah battery and a couple chargers for $200. No pro brand can match that
Great video. I would not trade the DCF923B that I picked up last month for either of these even if I got a stack of free batteries and a charger to go with the flex. I love the hard hits of the DeWalt which let you control how tight you can get a fastener with the Precision Wrench setting if you do not want to wreck the piece you are repairing. The smaller impact drivers just does not have that kind of control like the DCF923B. It is a game changer for me.
Same for me man. Picked up a dcf921 a while back and it’s my go to now and whatever my 921 can’t get off (which usually isn’t a whole hell of a lot) my 891 takes care of. And for the few REALLY bad bolts it’s the 900. Those are the only 3 wrenches I really use these days. The wrench mode is such a convenience.
I got a 921 also to try against my Milwaukees, it feels good in the hand, good trigger control and good power. Pretty hard to beat for size vs power and cost.
Awesome...I have long touted the Dewalt DCF 921 as the"king"of impacts because of it's tiny size and enormous power.Great job by flex with this one.Although it did not really beat the 921...it is a bit shorter...but bigger around so...I would say...almost guys...but Dewalt still is king in my opinion.And oh yeah....Don't buy that outdated milwaukee stubby with the 921 on the market!.
How is the dewalt fastener mode though? On videos i have seen on milwaukee vs dewalt, the milwaukee fastener mode looked superior to me, on tightening mode, stopping at lower torque rating, and staying stopped with trigger held. Where the dewalt would initially stop at higher torque, but after a sec or 2 if you still had trigger pulled, it would start tightening more. I like dewalt price and power, but wish it had the milwaukee fastener mode.
Really considering switching brands from Ridgid, considering Dewalt, but also thinking flex, and I’m really loving your tests that you do for all these videos
Why are you considering switching? I'm in a similar situation bought tons of Milwaukee which have been great for the most part but their batteries are getting pricey.
@@BDauto86 I’m switching because it seems like Ridgid has gone downhill and that they are not as good as their previous gen5x line was, it’s like they are taking more of the old Ryobi platform shape and quality so I would like something that is a bit more rugged and more powerful
@@fuzzybullwinkle it makes sense they would back off alil being Milwaukee is their big hammer brand. I bought alot into Milwaukee and the tools are pretty solid but the batteries break kinda easy and not cheap anymore. I tried the DeWalt 921 impact, I like it but 1 battery quit and the other broke easily. I might try some Hercules stuff, I got the grinder and so far it's been solid so I might get another tool and battery too try out. There batteries are still reasonable and warranty is decent so we'll see.
12V is the sweet spot if your looking for size to most daily tasks. 18V or 24 V with smaller and smaller head size but huge full size batteries are getting ridicules. Definitely need to shrink down the battery size, Milwaukee forge is a good start, stack lithium as well .. hope battery tech catches up...
as much as i love that flex is bringing competition, i don't think i'd buy this even if it was significantly "more powerful". i'f i'm hammering on this for hours, i would be worried about the heat.
if your using it for work, time is money. I've seen lots of guys kill some milwaukee tools repeatedly, but by the time the warranty is out they've made enough money off the extra power that they really don't care. It's why i often prefer less power dense tools, as a home gamer i like my stuff to last a decade or more, and when i need more power, i just get a bigger tool.
@@animefreak5757 i don't have an issue with power tools dying, but if the tool overheats and needs time to cool down while on the job, that's a problem. i had that issue with a flex hammer drill. i got one of their new models when it was on sale at acme but ended up shelving it because it kept overheating and shutting down. lots of user reviews seem to indicate the same issue. this tool appears to have heat issues too, according to this review. hopefully it gets fixed by the time the final product is out
I did buy 4 Flex power tools, and so far, every tool and battery has performed perfectly. One thing about Milwaukee; I've had 4 Milwaukee tools fail, electronically. The Milwaukee M18 tools cannot be considered as a highly reliable tool. I own 10 or so different M18 tools, and 2 of the models have died on a consistent basis, and I'm a very careful user. That's a 20% failure rate. Both of my M18 impacts died after only 1 year of normal use, indoors only, and never left in the rain ever--due to electronic speed control failure. Both of my M18 round canister vacuums failed electronically, after ONLY using them to pickup cat hair indoors (I had to remove the digital speed controller and voltage regulator and shunt the motor directly to the battery to make them work again). In both cases, I went and bought a new model, only to have the new model fail exactly the same way. I've not heard of Flex (or Hercules) having the same reliability issues. Overheating and stopping momentarily is totally fine. Failing permanently from normal humidity and moisture is not ok. The Milwaukee tools don't overheat, but they certainly fail routinely, which appears to be a problem with their electronics being more fragile than some of the other brands. M18 tools are a good value, for their performance, but they are not as reliable as the old brushed power tools.
Could you run a test of 3/4" air impact on your setup? Curious the difference it makes vs 1/2" when airflow is an issue and wether its worth using the 3/4" over the 1/2"
Wow a Thursday video and a prototype?! Noice 😊 Btw I doubt the are going near that 40A, they would risk blowing the fuse. Makita 18v impact drivers also have 40A fuses but don't use near that. And how shocking, flex tools overheating? They have just tuned them for peak power so they can win power tests like this, but not perform in real world which is a shame. But marketing works I guess...
Super new to the power tool scene and thought since I’m starting out and have no clue what I’m doing, now is the perfect time to take a chance on Flex since we are both start ups 😂 (yes I now flex has been around via its parent company for over many many years). I only got the Flex compact combo for $199 and decided I will buy as I grow. I also got the Skil circular saw as I wanted to stay within the same family and Flex and Skil are under the same parent company. I have no clue if my buy and choice of brand was a good decision, but I’m ignorant enough in the world of power tools that ignorance will be bliss in my case. My new year’s resolution was to start building things and stop buying them, like simple bookcases and storage shelves. Let’s see what happens.
Not in any mobile application so it's pointless compared to pneumatic tools which are self-cooling in operation. A pump, pack and radiator are too bulky and a finned Peltier cooler would be bulky and devour amps. Not everything needs to be electric and people needing what air does buy pneumatics, I use epicyclic manual torque multipliers, corded, cordless and pneumatic tools as suits the job. (BTW driving pneumatics for short periods off CO2 cylinders works nicely and you can use the same vapor withdrawal CO2 cylinders for wire welding and rapid tire inflation in the field like many off-roaders do.) The solultion is not just more beans but variety of beans.
@@Comm0ut I won't argue with you, there. I wasn't thinking of water cooling to be useful; I just occasionally appreciate horribly over-engineered and impractical "solutions", like that gas-powered milwaukee impact conversion Torque Test Channel did a video on last year. :p Also, good tip with the CO2 cylinders! It's never crossed my mind to try running pneumatic tools with them, but I suppose that pressure's pressure.
Another great video. I have a Skill 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch. I like them very much. Removes everything I've asked them to do. I do like the halo lights much better than the light on my DeWalt .
Wonder if more folks just buy these and really don't do work with them. More like I have the best tools on my workshop peg board. You know the type. Great channel and love the fact of no free tools. I've stop watching channels like that......they just become fan boys and thats a turn off for me.
Considering how often they overheat and how hard they're pushed, I wondering if those Flex tools really last. At least I can count on my DeWalt and Milwaukee tools being reliable. Usually. This and that fuse inside is why I stay away from Flex.
nice looking impact wrench, but getting hot isn't good. me and my son use the dewalt atomic a lot this past year, no issues at all. just the power stack 1.7 not great on run time, need a 3 amp range powerstack. thanks for the video
Can you do the Masterforce High Torque from Menards? The kit is $300 and it claims 1,200ft-lbs of nut-busting torque. Masterforce is made by the same company as Flex.
The rpm must go to high for the spring to throw the hammer forward on time to strike the anvil. I just don't understand why the manufactures don't compensate for us nut jobs who want to do this.
I need you to try my 3/8th kobalt XTR... All I did is slap the normal kobalt 3/8th hammer assembly onto the 1/4in drive Xtr body. And wtf over its insane but I don't really have anything to compare it too. If interested lmk unless you feel like swapping the hammer over yourself it bolts right on
Could you test out the Ridgid 6ah battery and the new 12 ah battery, it’d be interesting to see how much better the 6ah is vs the 4ah given they are the same size. Also maybe test the Ridgid high torque drill and their new impact driver
Whatever you do, never ever throw that forge battery on team red unless it's a 1/2" drive impact. Of course the flex is gonna spin fast, it's twenty four volts.
Who sells and makes this flex line? I use dewalt impact drivers and drills and have had darn good luck with them. I have abused the crap of many sets of them and they still work just fine.
Hey Torque Daddy! There is a bunch of Milwaukee tool packages being offered at home depot. Maybe you can shed some light on what is a good deal or not? Not just with the red army but different brands. In short, what is the best package being offered for black friday deals.
W8000 series are IR’s New cordless 3/4” & 1” pistol impacts, shown at SEMA and they also dropped a new 2236 with a DXS (quick change drive system) - so would be interested to see how they rank and if the drive change will risk power loss!
This week's video is being published early as it looks like Flex is starting to show these off at STAFDA (which I think is awesome), go check out VCG's video as well!
And as usual, no we don't work with any brands including Flex. So they might be even more surprised we had these than you are
I just knew there was a good reason for this popping up so late at night. Good Work!
Y'all sharing love to other channels is really stand up of y'all. However, VCG is just way too dramatic and attention seeking for me, but I greatly appreciate the content and approach Y'all have taken to the industry!
@Rusty.G1776 only place to see thier new high torques ATM, before we've had a chance to. So worth a watch
Can you please do a test on the manual impact wrenches? I'm pretty sure there's a Snap On one, called the Swench and it seems to be very powerful
Someday, in the distant future, there will be portable tools in the kilovolt class. The mind- (and arm-) bending torque may require entirely new metallurgy for fasteners, and three or more burly men to control. The TTC will by then have become the dominant force in all entertainment, and stadiums will have been converted to torque-dueling arenas, with graphs' y-axes now reaching into tens or even hundreds of kilofoot-pounds (pound-feet having been banned by popular vote).
It will be glorious.
I really like that these brands are pushing each other to more potent packages
It’s great as we consumers all win.
@@ashliehiggins exactly
You mean more like TTI competing against itself with different colored plastic on the outside
@@gorak9000How do you mean? DeWalt is owned by SBD, Flex is owned by Chervon, and Makita is Makita. Sometimes Ridgid tools push their Milwaukee counterparts, but the TTI hierarchy is pretty much set.
@gorak9000 I don't think TTI makes flex. To my knowledge TTI only makes Milwaukee/ridgid/ryobi.
Good, bad, or indifferent. The cordless wizardry is getting wild.
Something I'm am loving!!
TY fellas! 👍👍
it wont be too long until we have electric ratchets that put out 300 ft/lbs
😂
Bought the DeWalt based on y'all's review a week after that video came out. Glad to see its still topping charts. Still hits like a little champ for me.
So did I. I love the M12 stubby but the batteries rattle loose.
So far the DeWalt has been solid but battery cracked on 1 drop.
Love the sneaky reveal of the 3/4” Dewalt 😂
I'm looks like the Tork devil endered the chat 😈😈
For fuck sakes! My Dcf961 came in today 😂
if only there was a kobalt 24v adapter to go use the batteries on flex tools. I want to try some out and use them. Not enthused about having to buy practically the same battery in a new molding while costing a fair bit more though lol. Great vid as always.
Video idea for testing pressure washers would be awesome. so many claims of psi and other units of measure yet no validation, especially with the spree of cordless ones that have come out. Comparing against, corded, gas and cordless is something that I and hopefully others would be included to see.
the ironic thing is, psi on a pressure washer usually doesn't mean all that much when it comes to getting work done. A unit with half the psi and double the flow will clean circles around the higher psi model.
with a little 3d printing you could probably make an adapter, ive done it for my harbor freight batteries on some dewalt and hitachi gear and a hart battery on a ryobi
He's not saying it would get more work done it's about holding the companies accountable for what they are saying according to stats🎉
@@animefreak5757that’s for sure. I’d much rather have a 2500 psi 4gpm washer than a 3000 psi 2 gpm one
I know in an auto shop weight doesn't matter much. I spent my life working in the hvac trade, all my tools have to be carried to the chiller, boiler, cooling tower, etc that I am working on. Which is usually not very close to were I park. So power per pound would be of interest to me.
I would disagree and say weight does matter in an automotive shop. I mostly concerned with operation though and the initial kick. I'm slightly curious as to what feels better because if you look at some of these tools they ramp so hard which is nice if it gets the fastener off, but I wonder about if it doesn't, how much force is transferred into the user? Maybe the ones with a slightly softer start but then ramps up feel better but I'm really not sure. As far as what you're looking for, all the data is there you just have to divide whichever metric interests you by the weight of that model. Unfortunately, you're not investing into a tool unless you have a consistent workload. They have a few videos on brands like DeWalt and Milwaukee and how much power you need to do certain jobs in their opinion. It seems these days you have to look at the EU for leadership and they seem to invest heavily into worker health and creating standards and determinations on damaging things to workers health in professional environments. It's never really bad to look out for yourself long term. I would say in automotive a lot of times. It's the toll that actually fits that gets used but if there was a choice to have a little bit more weight that lessens the strain on the user it could be worth it as long as the weight isn't what's causing damage either.
The made in Japan Makita Impact Driver uses the same style of fuse. Uncle Bumblefuck has a video of taking one apart and I'm certain it even used a 40A, too.
Right off the bat, he's taking the Flex apart. This channel is superior to all other tool test channels.
That atomic with the teeny powerstack is the first thing I grab. When tightening my oil drain bolt of course 😅
The small makitas also have the 40A fuses, at least in Europe. Really handy when the tool blocks because of dirt in the motor.
I love my flex high torque impact and the 1/2 turbo mode drill. Sold all my Milwaukee tools and I’m buying everything flex for now on.
The flex sounds like a impact driver with that IPM
Agreed
I thought the same. Maybe they copied Man Caver Tools' homework with the Frankenstein Milwaukee.
You know, as a home user, I always reach for the 3/8" air impact instead of my 1/2" air impact, because the 3/8" feels so much more enjoyable with the faster impulse rate. There's something more enjoyable about the smaller, higher frequency impacts. It's purely a subjective experience, but I don't enjoy the clunky slow rattles from the 1/2" impact as much.
@@starseeddeluxe I also like the 3/8 for just zipping blades off my wood chipper and my mowers
Love that these videos are ALWAYS so fkn entertaining, informative and they drop videos so damn often, I just can’t get enough.
So when's the 3/4 Dewalt 961 video coming?
I'm so glad you brought attention to the size of their batteries. A tool isn't really compact if there's a huge battery hanging off the end. There really isn't an excuse with the lithium pouch battery. They need at least one compact battery like Dewalt's small powerstack. If you ask me this should be a priority for them. I have their quick eject impact driver, it's still brand new, never used it. There's just way more lighter/smaller (battery) options out there.
I just saw an ad from the local snap-on truck for what appears to be a new stubby 3/8ths impact that advertises 575 lbft. I cant remembered the model number but would be interested to see that comparison.
Flex is in too weird of a spot for me to even consider switching from one of the major brands. I stick with what goes on sale regularly. Nobody asked for my opinion but carry on...
It’s a good point. I like their tools and bought their angle grinder combo because it was cheaper and has better functions than the standard brands at the price point. But their tools and batteries are stupid expensive for such limited range in tools. That makes a high barrier of entry to switch.
@@madjackgamingandfitness498limited😂
Actually that's how I jumped into the Flex bandwagon after only owning 2 major brands.
Their Turbo hammerdrill and angle grinder were on sale at ACME a couple months ago where I got both tools , a couple 5Ah batteries, a 2.5Ah battery and a couple chargers for $200. No pro brand can match that
@@engineer_alvcome back here in a couple years for a longevity update
@@engineer_alvyep.. i got 4 of the grinder kits on that sale. variable speed is a must for us.
I love this channel for the dank memes and it fills my tool addiction void
Great video. I would not trade the DCF923B that I picked up last month for either of these even if I got a stack of free batteries and a charger to go with the flex. I love the hard hits of the DeWalt which let you control how tight you can get a fastener with the Precision Wrench setting if you do not want to wreck the piece you are repairing. The smaller impact drivers just does not have that kind of control like the DCF923B. It is a game changer for me.
Same for me man. Picked up a dcf921 a while back and it’s my go to now and whatever my 921 can’t get off (which usually isn’t a whole hell of a lot) my 891 takes care of. And for the few REALLY bad bolts it’s the 900. Those are the only 3 wrenches I really use these days. The wrench mode is such a convenience.
I got a 921 also to try against my Milwaukees, it feels good in the hand, good trigger control and good power.
Pretty hard to beat for size vs power and cost.
Probably loosing power as it gets hotter due to resistance rising as the motor wires get hotter.
Love my FLEX Quick EJECT and my MID TQFX 1451 but this little guy looks like some MINI ME IMPACT WRENCH want one soon has it can be ordered
MAN I've been begging for flex to make a 3/8" impact forever!
Awesome...I have long touted the Dewalt DCF 921 as the"king"of impacts because of it's tiny size and enormous power.Great job by flex with this one.Although it did not really beat the 921...it is a bit shorter...but bigger around so...I would say...almost guys...but Dewalt still is king in my opinion.And oh yeah....Don't buy that outdated milwaukee stubby with the 921 on the market!.
How is the dewalt fastener mode though? On videos i have seen on milwaukee vs dewalt, the milwaukee fastener mode looked superior to me, on tightening mode, stopping at lower torque rating, and staying stopped with trigger held. Where the dewalt would initially stop at higher torque, but after a sec or 2 if you still had trigger pulled, it would start tightening more. I like dewalt price and power, but wish it had the milwaukee fastener mode.
@@connor3288Do you actually like the precision wrench mode? Myself, I think it is a gimmick.
Interesting motor. Nice find! Thanks for the early drop!
I am impressed how much torque you can get from such a small tool
Really considering switching brands from Ridgid, considering Dewalt, but also thinking flex, and I’m really loving your tests that you do for all these videos
Why are you considering switching?
I'm in a similar situation bought tons of Milwaukee which have been great for the most part but their batteries are getting pricey.
@@BDauto86 I’m switching because it seems like Ridgid has gone downhill and that they are not as good as their previous gen5x line was, it’s like they are taking more of the old Ryobi platform shape and quality so I would like something that is a bit more rugged and more powerful
@@fuzzybullwinkle it makes sense they would back off alil being Milwaukee is their big hammer brand. I bought alot into Milwaukee and the tools are pretty solid but the batteries break kinda easy and not cheap anymore. I tried the DeWalt 921 impact, I like it but 1 battery quit and the other broke easily. I might try some Hercules stuff, I got the grinder and so far it's been solid so I might get another tool and battery too try out. There batteries are still reasonable and warranty is decent so we'll see.
FLEX's two weaknesses, too hot, too heavy
yep dumbbells on the jobsite
"give it the beans" has been my all time favorite phrase this year
Did you take the anvil from the DCF897 and put it in the DCF961?????
Am I the only one who noticed the unreleased 3/4 version of the DeWalt project ludicrous impact at 2:32 ? 😅
Devil Tork spoiler😈😈
@@franklinwalker9606 😆😆😆
These companies are about to start putting gps trackers in these test tools and seeing if one gets to the ttc facilities
12V is the sweet spot if your looking for size to most daily tasks. 18V or 24 V with smaller and smaller head size but huge full size batteries are getting ridicules. Definitely need to shrink down the battery size, Milwaukee forge is a good start, stack lithium as well .. hope battery tech catches up...
Using a small socket on the flex and long ones on the others why is testing always so different definitely makes a difference!
The 1/2 was tested with the same socket as the others. It's a difference of drive size. We showed both
Acme tools has Flex 3.5 and 6ah battery/charger kits with a free tool choice. $200 and $250 respectively
You guys have the DCF964 already? 😜
as much as i love that flex is bringing competition, i don't think i'd buy this even if it was significantly "more powerful". i'f i'm hammering on this for hours, i would be worried about the heat.
if your using it for work, time is money. I've seen lots of guys kill some milwaukee tools repeatedly, but by the time the warranty is out they've made enough money off the extra power that they really don't care.
It's why i often prefer less power dense tools, as a home gamer i like my stuff to last a decade or more, and when i need more power, i just get a bigger tool.
@@animefreak5757 i don't have an issue with power tools dying, but if the tool overheats and needs time to cool down while on the job, that's a problem. i had that issue with a flex hammer drill. i got one of their new models when it was on sale at acme but ended up shelving it because it kept overheating and shutting down. lots of user reviews seem to indicate the same issue. this tool appears to have heat issues too, according to this review. hopefully it gets fixed by the time the final product is out
No need to hammer for hours, true to tradition it will overheat in less than half an hour.
I did buy 4 Flex power tools, and so far, every tool and battery has performed perfectly. One thing about Milwaukee; I've had 4 Milwaukee tools fail, electronically. The Milwaukee M18 tools cannot be considered as a highly reliable tool. I own 10 or so different M18 tools, and 2 of the models have died on a consistent basis, and I'm a very careful user.
That's a 20% failure rate. Both of my M18 impacts died after only 1 year of normal use, indoors only, and never left in the rain ever--due to electronic speed control failure.
Both of my M18 round canister vacuums failed electronically, after ONLY using them to pickup cat hair indoors (I had to remove the digital speed controller and voltage regulator and shunt the motor directly to the battery to make them work again). In both cases, I went and bought a new model, only to have the new model fail exactly the same way. I've not heard of Flex (or Hercules) having the same reliability issues.
Overheating and stopping momentarily is totally fine. Failing permanently from normal humidity and moisture is not ok. The Milwaukee tools don't overheat, but they certainly fail routinely, which appears to be a problem with their electronics being more fragile than some of the other brands.
M18 tools are a good value, for their performance, but they are not as reliable as the old brushed power tools.
I see That spoiler 3/4 dewalt tork devil😈😈
Could you run a test of 3/4" air impact on your setup? Curious the difference it makes vs 1/2" when airflow is an issue and wether its worth using the 3/4" over the 1/2"
Saw a Brushless non fuel High Torque today at my local Home Depot model number 2666-20. Never seen one before.
Wow a Thursday video and a prototype?! Noice 😊
Btw I doubt the are going near that 40A, they would risk blowing the fuse. Makita 18v impact drivers also have 40A fuses but don't use near that.
And how shocking, flex tools overheating? They have just tuned them for peak power so they can win power tests like this, but not perform in real world which is a shame. But marketing works I guess...
Since IMPACT DRIVER put out more in FORWARD i Wonder if MINI ME sounds like the QUICK EJECT would put out more BEANS in FORWARD
Looking forward to a spicy Friday 😂
This was fridays video. Just got done editing it a few hours ago. So uh, sry ahead of time we have nothing finished in time to move up
I see this 3/4 Dewalt 😈
I’m sure yall saw but Harbor Freight seems to have released new models of their compact 3/8 and 1/2 Hercules impact wrenches
Great video as always! 😁
Super new to the power tool scene and thought since I’m starting out and have no clue what I’m doing, now is the perfect time to take a chance on Flex since we are both start ups 😂 (yes I now flex has been around via its parent company for over many many years). I only got the Flex compact combo for $199 and decided I will buy as I grow. I also got the Skil circular saw as I wanted to stay within the same family and Flex and Skil are under the same parent company. I have no clue if my buy and choice of brand was a good decision, but I’m ignorant enough in the world of power tools that ignorance will be bliss in my case.
My new year’s resolution was to start building things and stop buying them, like simple bookcases and storage shelves. Let’s see what happens.
Just out of curiousity, have you ever tested the DeWalt 20v 10ah xr battery? I am curious to know if it is any better than the 6ah or 8ah.
I'm curious about that too, especially since I have two of them and they seem to have 21700 cells in them (unless I'm just mistaken about that)
I wonder if you could improve performance on an impact wrench like this by rigging up some sort of water cooling, to help it dissipate heat faster.
Liquid nitrogen should deliver maximum performance, although the shrapnel from shattering sockets might be a sub-optimal byproduct 🫤
Only use outside in the winter...
Not in any mobile application so it's pointless compared to pneumatic tools which are self-cooling in operation.
A pump, pack and radiator are too bulky and a finned Peltier cooler would be bulky and devour amps. Not everything needs to be electric and people needing what air does buy pneumatics,
I use epicyclic manual torque multipliers, corded, cordless and pneumatic tools as suits the job. (BTW driving pneumatics for short periods off CO2 cylinders works nicely and you can use the same vapor withdrawal CO2 cylinders for wire welding and rapid tire inflation in the field like many off-roaders do.) The solultion is not just more beans but variety of beans.
@@Comm0ut I won't argue with you, there. I wasn't thinking of water cooling to be useful; I just occasionally appreciate horribly over-engineered and impractical "solutions", like that gas-powered milwaukee impact conversion Torque Test Channel did a video on last year. :p
Also, good tip with the CO2 cylinders! It's never crossed my mind to try running pneumatic tools with them, but I suppose that pressure's pressure.
I'd like to politely request about a 10 to 15 minute video which nothing but impact driver or even impact wrench asmr.
Love your videos man, keep it up!
I agree. There is nothing like empirical head to head for flushing out the marketing hype!
So dewalt is releasing the new high torque in 3/4” drive?
Another great video. I have a Skill 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch. I like them very much. Removes everything I've asked them to do. I do like the halo lights much better than the light on my DeWalt .
Love the content man keep it up
A very interesting and well presented video thanks. I’m subscribed 🇬🇧
I would love to see you torque test the latest generation SKIL 12v 3/8 impact wrench. I’m curious how it stacks up next to the M12 Stubby 3/8.
This isn't the late-night Torquing my girlfriend had in mind, but I couldn't be happier!
Flex basically took the housing of a Milwaukee impact and stamped their name on it
Wonder if more folks just buy these and really don't do work with them. More like I have the best tools on my workshop peg board. You know the type. Great channel and love the fact of no free tools. I've stop watching channels like that......they just become fan boys and thats a turn off for me.
Gotta start bustin out the m18 Frankenstein
@torquetestchannel When will we ever see any Panasonic branded impact tool and drivers on the channel?
Yellow is still on top baby #1 , but I do like Flex and I wish them well ..... 👍🖖
Overkill is underrated
got my ugga dugga fix
This looks like a good tool to toss in the trunk on a road trip
Considering how often they overheat and how hard they're pushed, I wondering if those Flex tools really last. At least I can count on my DeWalt and Milwaukee tools being reliable. Usually. This and that fuse inside is why I stay away from Flex.
While I don't disagree, I'd rather have a burnt out fuse than melted wiring or a burnt out motor.
@@lr0dy Realistically, the fuse is a prototype thing and won't be there in the final product.
@@Haloruler64 Then, realistically, the fuse inside is a very stupid reason to avoid Flex tools. The other reasons are valid.
When are you testing the “ludicrous 3/4” that you slipped in there
nice looking impact wrench, but getting hot isn't good. me and my son use the dewalt atomic a lot this past year, no issues at all. just the power stack 1.7 not great on run time, need a 3 amp range powerstack. thanks for the video
my Makita XDT13 has a 40 amp automotive fuse inside like that too.
Got wasted and bought a silvel 1/2 impact on sale.
It works but would love to see your judgment/roasting on it 😆
I took apart the battery that came with my Amazon Denali Weedwhacker. 18650/2000 Highstar, are those any good?
Can you do the Masterforce High Torque from Menards? The kit is $300 and it claims 1,200ft-lbs of nut-busting torque. Masterforce is made by the same company as Flex.
The rpm must go to high for the spring to throw the hammer forward on time to strike the anvil. I just don't understand why the manufactures don't compensate for us nut jobs who want to do this.
Interesting, only seen those fuses in Hikoki nail guns, not in impacts.
Ah they sell FLEx here as well (Greece Europe) however the PLA is red instead of black. It looks like MAKTEC.. but the prices are FESTOOL...
I wanna see how good the skil 12v volt 3/8 compact impact wrench is compared to the others in the 12v line up.
I need you to try my 3/8th kobalt XTR... All I did is slap the normal kobalt 3/8th hammer assembly onto the 1/4in drive Xtr body. And wtf over its insane but I don't really have anything to compare it too. If interested lmk unless you feel like swapping the hammer over yourself it bolts right on
The new stubby snapon 3/8 cordless impact?
U able to do a video soon?
Could you test out the Ridgid 6ah battery and the new 12 ah battery, it’d be interesting to see how much better the 6ah is vs the 4ah given they are the same size. Also maybe test the Ridgid high torque drill and their new impact driver
Can you check out the new Milwaukee 2666 impact m18
wait wait wait, what's this 3/4-in DeWalt ??
These are not the droids you're looking for
The 961 with a 3/4" anvil perhaps? :)
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, anyways.... :P
There’s the 3/4” that we’ve been waiting for. Finally! Friday’s episode?!
@@ndoc8889 Havent even tested yet
I'd vote for you.
Whatever you do, never ever throw that forge battery on team red unless it's a 1/2" drive impact.
Of course the flex is gonna spin fast, it's twenty four volts.
Will a regular DeWalt drill except a flex volt DeWalt? Will it give it as much power or more or a longer life? Thank you for your excellent video.
We're the flex batteries brand new while the other 2 brands were older batteries?
Negative. All same age
Ya look how small the socket is compared to the half inch socket
Who sells and makes this flex line? I use dewalt impact drivers and drills and have had darn good luck with them. I have abused the crap of many sets of them and they still work just fine.
looks like they took the man caver tools frankenstein idea and produced it, based on how fast the impacts are
You should make a gasoline version of the alibaba 1 in impact let it eat
Can you do the Ryobi compact 1/2"? I don't expect it to be crazy but it'd be nice to see where it stacks up
Hey Torque Daddy!
There is a bunch of Milwaukee tool packages being offered at home depot. Maybe you can shed some light on what is a good deal or not? Not just with the red army but different brands.
In short, what is the best package being offered for black friday deals.
Yes buy the FLEX batteries. They are RAW and pack a punch !
Gotta thank FLEX tools for forcing other companies to innovate. Competition drives innovation.
Flex needs to fix the heat issue.
How come no one talks about how girthy and awkward the m12 handles are
Thoughts on IR’s New W8000 series? When can we see one on the channel?!
I only know of this one: ua-cam.com/video/wAwt5h3KjOk/v-deo.html
What's W8000?
@@TorqueTestChannel replies keep vanishing… are these being deleted?
W8000 series are IR’s New cordless 3/4” & 1” pistol impacts, shown at SEMA and they also dropped a new 2236 with a DXS (quick change drive system) - so would be interested to see how they rank and if the drive change will risk power loss!
I just want a new 3/8 stubby m12 with Tri led
Awesome, thanks
have you tested the Seesii 800N.m & 1000N.m 1/2 brushless Impacts yet????
What stops them from just making the drivers so that the batteries are mounted 180° in the opposite direction.
Milwaukee M28 did that
is there a real difference between the black makita and the blue/green makitas?