He seems brighter here even though he is skiming the floor today. What is also great is his little scrotum doesn't seem as swollen. That lasted a long time. I wish for him to be a success even if it is in a delayed development. He is gorgeous.
I certainly hope mom Jingga is more engaging with him at other times than in the short snippets we see here. She still doesn't act like she cares if he's there or not. Hope he is being fed enough. Poor baby.
Thank You so Much AP for giving us an update. Really hard to watch but so Blessed that this lil Boy has fought hard to be here today. Really Disappointed in this zoo for Not doing what's Best for him. They should have taken him and hand raised with the proper care and teaching and training him how to use his limbs to crawl, walk and climb. Many Zoo's have done this with several different types of Great Apes, Chimpanzees, Primates and many more Animals. Its Obvious this Zoo doesn't have the Knowledge and training to handle cases like this, if this is the reason why, then what qualifations do 😊 they have yo be a Keeper. In my opinion, I really don't think many of the keepers here went to college to become a Zoologist. I know that's harsh for me to say. Anyone with proper education and training would have hand raised this Baby in order to insure that this lil Guy would have a Great Future. My Heart is Extremely Sad and hoping this Zoo will do whats Best and Realize this Baby Boy needs their help..... Hang in there Sweet Boy. ❤
Step by step can take you a long way. They both appear to be moving in the right direction. I would perhaps be more concerned if Jinnga never let Jarang go or if she neve bothered with him. It is pleasing to see she is never frustrated with him and that Jarang is not constantly looking at his mother for re-assurance
He’s the cutest little thing ever. He might be taking a little while to grow but he’s going to be the biggest, best organgutan that we will ever see ❤❤ Lord has this little fella in his hands and he’s going to be just fine. ❤❤❤
He’s too darn cute. I’m wondering if a little bit of physical therapy might help him strength hi muscles. He’s so tiny for his age but looks like he’s slowly getting better.
Even though I haven't been able to watch your channel as much as I would like to, this is the 1st time I've ever seen him able to nurse but she "NIP RIP's" him away shortly after he was able to latch on.😢 He does appear to be of a good weight so maybe 🤔 staff is pulling him away from Momma and supplemental feeding him. I hope because this wasn't anything but a tease to him. Poor little guy. 😢 Thanks for keeping us updated on his progress as I'm sure you're aware that you have a great amount of followers 😉❤️😉❤️
I am really hoping to get back to the zoo soon for an update and am hoping so much for some good positive development. Thanks so much for your support of the channel. ❤️
It is good to see Jarang wide eyed and moving around more, and even nursing- but I'm no longer buying into the theory of "just let nature take it's course" - an orang infant this age needs more interaction and mobility. He should be attempting to climb and dangle by now.
It is amazing to see this little guy almost sit up on his own. And then the look on his face as he leans back like a gangsta 🤣 My favourite mom/son oranguan family and second favourite great ape family after my own.
It's not amazing. He's over 9 MONTHS old. He should be sitting up, walking AND climbing by now! He hasn't hit ANY milestones yet. Even more sad, his genitals are STILL painfully swollen! They've been that way since last October. WHY haven't Blackpools veterinarians treated this condition? And why haven't his teeth come in? He should have a mouthful by now. Blackpool has him on display. They should inform the public what, exactly, is wrong with Baby Jarang and what steps they're taking to improve his development & well being.
@@HeartTurnedToStone I am very well aware of this. He should also have most if not all of his teeth amounst other indicators for his age. I am in the early stagest of writing a paper on Jinnga and her adpatation in raising a specail needs baby. This is a faciating glimps into the world of our closest great ape cousins. This is a specail needs baby, can't you be happy there is imrovement no matter how delayed it is. Jarang is close to hitting some of his milestones and that should be celebrated regardles of his developmental issues. They should be celebrated even moreso given his conditions. These are huge steps in his life. The fact you don't think there is improvment or they should be recognized and something to be excited about speaks volulmes about how you see the world and who you are as a person.
@@Axalotal Where have you heard that Jarang is a "Special Needs" baby? Are baby Jarang's "Special Needs" mental? Or physical? I've scoured the Internet trying to find out what's wrong with him. Blackpool Zoo is totally silent on his development (or lack thereof). The only things I can find pertain to his birth. Not ONE of those news clips or articles declare Jarang being born as a "Special Needs" baby. It's unfortunate you spent so much time on a long winded spiel of B.S. in an attempt to defend the neglect of Jingga & Jarang. What's horrifying is the EXTENSIVE amount of tragic instances we've seen in Ape Trackers short snippets of Baby Jarangs life. Judging by the comments, 80%-90% of the people agree and they're all saying the same thing: "Somebody PLEASE STEP IN AND HELP THAT BABY!" How, exactly, does writing "a paper" help Baby Jarangs quality of life? While there's a massive laundry list of horrible things I've seen Baby Jarang subjected to in these short snippets, I'm not going to list them now. With that said, just the fact that Baby Jarangs genitals are so painfully swollen is cause for concern. This has been allowed to go on for over 6 MONTHS (since last October). So you're okay with that? Obviously Jingga was too young to have a baby and is an inexperienced mother. What measures have been taken to teach her "normal" mothering skills? I'm guessing none since there's no evident improvement. Poor baby Jarang, never being NURTURED. He never gets to hear his mothers heartbeat or feel the constant warmth of being cradled like normal Orang mothers do with their babies. The fact that Jarang is supposedly "Special Needs" means he SHOULD be getting even MORE love & attention than the average baby Orang. I believe Jarang was born healthy & normal. If that is indeed the case, Blackpool should have protected Jarang by pulling/protecting him the FIRST time he was slammed on his head - many videos show Jingga dropping him on the hard concrete, head first. She also grabs him by her foot & proceeds to slam him up against hard objects while she swings around & climbs high. She drags him across the hard concrete floor like he's a ragdoll. I know Orangs are tough little animals but for a new baby - It's amazing he hasn't suffered broken & dislocated limbs. Multiple videos show Jarang hungry and wanting to feed. Jingga ALWAYS pulls him off her chest and in most cases, throws him on the hard concrete to lay there hungry while she goes off to do her own thing. All that, yet we've never heard a peep out of him. He's never cried. Not once. Even in the videos where he's being violently swung around up high and LOOKS TERRIFIED, he still doesn't cry? Also, regardless of whether or not Baby Jarang has developmental issues and/or disabilities, it's been evident all along that he's not getting adequate nourishment to help him grow. It's also evident how WEAK he is. At NINE MONTHS, not ONE tooth has come in. He should have a mouthful by now. He's still unable to crawl, stand, walk or climb. I've NEVER seen him cling onto Jingga by himself - she's ALWAYS had to hang onto him. Blackpool Zoo made a big deal about Jarangs arrival and continue to have him on display. Therefore they should be updating the public regarding Baby Jarangs condition since it's obvious there are indeed, major developmental issues. What, exactly, is wrong with him? What is his prognosis? What kind of physical therapy are they doing with Jarang to build up his strength & improve his mobility? His living conditions are also atrocious. Baby Jarang has yet to experience sunshine, fresh air, grass, trees, bugs, etc. Instead, he's locked up in a hard concrete room with only filthy, feces covered dead dried straw on the floor. Nothing within his reach to grab onto, climb up, munch on, stimulate his curiosity or play with. Would you lock your dog or cat up in that room for an entire YEAR? How 'bout your kid? They DO share 97% of our DNA. This is a pathetic environment for Baby Jarang to spend his first year of life in. Poor little guy. It's sad you're so opposed to having compassion & concern about the well being of Baby Jarang. Good luck with writing your "paper". That'll do a lot to improve Baby Jarangs life. Not.
@@HeartTurnedToStone Wow, so much hatred and anger that it is hard to take you seriously. Especially, since you are all over the place with your thoughts. Also, while this is the internet, be careful what you say as defamation of character laws still apply. I have not been silent on the neglect of Jinnga and Jarang. I am fairly sure I have done more than most. I am not just a keyboard warrior. For this thread, I am keeping my comments to the medical. 1. Jarang nearly has medical issues that have delayed his mental, emotional and physical growth; and as a baby that makes him special needs. He fits the classic definition. 2. You are making all these claims of abuse and neglect. Are the claims solely off of the video footage from this youtube channel or have you seen other video footage or have you visited the zoo? You are making a lot of serous claimes Based on this youtube channel and their own research the Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation (BOS) disagrees with you or they would have sent a recovery team already. Please provide the links so I can forward them as proof to the BOS or you can send them to the organization yourself at the follwing website. orangutan.or.id 3.What training do you have in the study of primatology, great apes, orangutans, or biology? Are you making an expert opinion or just guessing based on what you think the Jarang needs? To claim you have seen no nurturing shows how little of all the footage you have seen and undsestanding of orantuan behavour. While they are oen of our closest family members in the Great Ape family, the way humans and oranguans handel their offspring is vastly differnt. It is unfair to project human ways on to Oranguans. 4. We agree on how all of this is wrong. Why are you concluding that I somehow do not care about what is happening with Jarang and Jinga? Go back through the videos and you will see my stance has not changed and I am amazed Jarang made it this long. I have commented on just about every video and short - I have watched them all multiple times. Yes, the zoo should be doing a lot more, but since we don't know what is wrong; perhaps there is nothing the zoo can do. There are medical conditions that are untreatable, too risky or the cost is too great to perform. I am not excusing the zoo by any means. Several issues were clear from the day Jarang was born. You are asking great questions. And the answers about what is wrong with him, his prognosis, care plan, WTF is wrong with his groin, was this a birth defect or due to after-birth trauma... the list goes on and on. The zoo should be providing answers. It is infuriating that people automatically blame the mother, especially when these people have no training and just looking for a quick fix and to blame someone out of anger. It is also not productive by any means. Jinga is a victim as well. Based on what you are saying, you think there is something wrong with young single mothers. Essentially that's what Jinga is - a young single mother, locked up with little to no help and no way to express what she needs or wants in terms of help. You have all this compassion for a baby and not his mother who is going through the same problems as a worried parrent. 5. Sadly, my research probably won't help Jarang; that is a separate issue I am working on; however, it will help with similar issues in the future when zoos and rehab facilities have to deal with a special needs baby and or their mother. In most cases it will be only the rescued baby from the illegal pet trade which means rescue and rehab staff will have a better understanding of how to give a more natural care to the child. Research of this type seldom helps the individual's being observed. But there is always hope. If you want to do something other than complain and hide behind a computer let me know and we can talk about ways to help this family. Making any change will take a real-world effort and not just commenting on UA-cam. Disapitingly, almost no one ever takes me up on the offer to provide real world help. It is a testament to how people really are and what they genuinely care about.
@@HeartTurnedToStoneso judgmental. None of us who watch these “snippets” know the full story about these two. The zoo is not the provider of these videos nor do they owe us any explanation. The fact that his teeth haven’t come in is an indicator to me that his lack of physicality is not Jinga’s fault. Just guessing, she is aware of his physical deficiencies and realizes he will not be able to keep up with normal age related markers. He may be wanting to nurse but that doesn’t mean he’s starving. If his primary source of nutrition ha been provided by the zoo staff, she may not be lactating anymore. Bottom line, should they take him from her, and do what with him? These zoos have primate exhibits because they are popular and, therefore, income producers. These are my thoughts, yours may be different, but be kind.
None of us who watch these “snippets” know the full story about these two. The zoo is not the provider of these videos nor do they owe us any explanation. The fact that his teeth haven’t come in is an indicator to me that his lack of physicality is not Jinga’s fault. Just guessing, she is aware of his physical deficiencies and realizes he will not be able to keep up with normal age related markers. He may be wanting to nurse but that doesn’t mean he’s starving. If his primary source of nutrition ha been provided by the zoo staff, she may not be lactating anymore. Bottom line, should they take him from her, and do what with him? These zoos have primate exhibits because they are popular and, therefore, income producers. These are my thoughts, yours may be different, but be kind.
No. Chewing cud is when ruminants such as sheep or goats regurgitate undigested food and chew it to grind it finer. Orangutans just seem to like chewing on things, much like humans chewing gum or tobacco.
His scrotum gets in his way due to the swelling, making it large, and that seems to be the problem. That's why he's having a hard time being mobile and able to maneviour around Jinga. He is eating. He has gained a good amount of weight. If she was not allowing him to feed, all the bones on his lil frame would be showing, or he would no longer be here.
@@راديو76 He seems to have developmental issues. Hopefully he will meet his milestones only later like kids with Down's syndrome. He is getting stronger and his grasping and holding seems a lot better.
@@راديو76 I hear you. They possibly need to do some genetic testing and that can be expensive. But perhaps they would have to wait until he is older for that. It would be nice is they revealed their hypotheses about his condition. The good news is she is making sure he eats and he is progressing a little at a time. Maybe he will always be delayed. As long as he can learn to eat and walk around a bit, he can have a really good life.
Has anyone noticed that she is always chewing? And she does this strange move that looks as though she is regurgitating and re-chewing something. It bothers me. Also, I have never seen her hold him against her body. On her arm or leg or dangling from a limb, but never against her own body. That, seems very weird to me
If you watch other videos of orangutans you will see that they chew on things a lot. I believe this is perfectly normal behaviour and nothing to worry about.
Wasn’t this little one taken from Jingga? I don’t think she has much maternal instinct. It seems that she is ignoring him. Perhaps these clips are old.
Awwww - he moved closer to Mama❣ Jarang appears to be growing and getting stronger, and Jingga seems much more engaged and attentive. It's like she's realised that he is a separate, intelligent being like herself, who needs her to care for him. 🥰 The determination on his wee face as he tries to move towards her is just adorable. I can't wait to see what progress they've made together since this film was shot. Thanks for another cracking video, Ape Tracker! 🙏🤩
I was going to not write in this topic anymore, but seeing this euphoria in the comments, it seems to me that not a lot of people realise how an orangutan of this age as Jarang should look and behave. I don't know if the cause of his condition is trauma or neurological problems, I don't know if his mother only feeds him as we see in the videos, so one sip and she immediately pulls him away from the breast (he's small, skinny so it could be like that), I don't know if the zoo has noticed that he most likely has a scrotal hernia and his mother is constantly jerking him around . I know he is not getting proper veterinary care and I still say the zoo is neglecting him. He should be fed and rehabilitated even if he has to be taken away from his mother, because he will never even be able to grip a branch or a rope because his hands are still not functional.I found a video where Jarang was 3 weeks old and had functional hands and fingers, so what happened? in this video she put him face dowen and left him, so I think her fault is his current state of health, she didn't care about him from the beginning.Surely you will delete this comment like the others, but it's hard, someone's the truth becaus
He breastfeeds on Jinga. And has gained alot of weight. He looked really good compared to 4 months ago. He is getting bigger. The vets and specialists have been observing the 2 of them for months now. He is going to have surgery when he is a little stronger. They think his scrotum is the problem, and that's what's causing him not to be where he should be. Hopefully, soon, he will get it. Then I see him learning to sit up, crawl, and walk all in the same day once he is healed up as well.
We are unable to see if he latched or not. Jarang does not appear to be underfed, so he is getting milk somewhere. We only see very short snippets and nothing behind the viewing area. I prefer to not jump to negative conclusions. Jarang is obviously “special” and we, as observers, have no idea what the specialists have determined about his future abilities.
That orangutan will always be 'special' or whatever you are calling it. He's old enough to be jumping all over that enclosure. He's definitely still an infant at what, now? 11 months? Just falls over.
I am starting to wonder if the seemingly lack of attendance on Jarang is a long process of letting him eventually perish simply by Jingga's lack of mothering skills. He now needs hand rearing, or to supplement his feeding. The tiny videos just make us more frustrated. We could have a 20 minute one to just view Jingga over a longer period. Something more substantial. He is such a gorgeous little boy.
I am very sad for this baby!! The problem is twofold; inexperienced mother and some kind of physical problem. When an Orangutan is born their grip (all four limbs) is written in their Genes! The Mother never let him hang on her and coupled with the fact that he has some development problems (could be D3 deficient) is a disaster. Bottom line is that the Vets should have intervened a long time ago!! Period!! And, if they have done nothing, then shame on them!!! Please, please help this baby!! And, PLEASE post more videos? He is such a beautiful baby!
After watching this video a few times, I can see that some of the issue is cuz Jingga doesn't know enough what to do. Idk if him on her nipple irritates it, maybe it's sensitive & bithers her that she doesn't feed him to the point that he's full or if it's something else. I also am thinking tjat maybe she carries him by her foot cuz maybe it hurts or bothers her when he pulls her fur in other places. I believe she doesn't understand fully that she has to teach him things & help him het stronger. But it's not her fault. She is young and doesn't have any experience as a mother or no examples to teach & show her the proper way. That being said, she does love him & tries her best trying to be a great mommy to little Jarang. I do love to see them and can't wait to see how this little family does as time goes on. They are both beautiful, and Jarang just melts my heart. He's getting more active as time goes on. I'm definitely rooting for the both of them. I would love to see them in person someday. ❤❤😊
There must be something going on, as you mentioned it. I just was visiting the homepage of the Zoo, and they wrote that Jingga and Kawan become Parents of a healthy son, born at 14th of June 2023. Its possible to adopt an Orang Utang for 75 british pounds per month. Maybee we should lay our money down to support Jarrangs little Live❤
@@mighj354 to me it seems, that all the last videos are maybe old ? there is no new report about Mom and son at the homepage of Blackpool Zoo. I hope we all are not fooled. And that Jarang is still with his Mom
I’ve watched these since Ape Tracker started posting them. I’ve read all of the comments and have been disappointed by all of the snarky and accusatory ones. The zoo owes us nothing in the way of explanation. Upon reflection I think Jingga may be depressed. She carried him for 8+ months, birthed him and had a sweet infant, who apparently has motor skill problems. He is unable to keep his balance, which has nothing to do with her teaching him. It’s innate and, to me, an indication of physical deficiencies. This must be disappointing for her as well. Just a thought from a human perspective.
He seems brighter here even though he is skiming the floor today. What is also great is his little scrotum doesn't seem as swollen. That lasted a long time.
I wish for him to be a success even if it is in a delayed development. He is gorgeous.
She has the most gentle eyes ❤
I certainly hope mom Jingga is more engaging with him at other times than in the short snippets we see here. She still doesn't act like she cares if he's there or not. Hope he is being fed enough. Poor baby.
Such a human point of view.
A mãe não permite que o filhote mame.
Jingga loves him and cares for him as best she can. Jarang is not malnourished so must be feeding well.
Looking forward to the update on them ❤
The baby moving its mouth like that means its hungry.
She keeps taking him off her boob, he never gets enough to eat and she leaves him on his own even when he cries. Poor baby.
Just the cutest. I love the little faces he makes. He's such an adorable little boy.
So happy to see an update of this little guy! ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank You so Much AP for giving us an update.
Really hard to watch but so Blessed that this lil Boy has fought hard to be here today.
Really Disappointed in this zoo for Not doing what's Best for him. They should have taken him and hand raised with the proper care and teaching and training him how to use his limbs to crawl, walk and climb.
Many Zoo's have done this with several different types of Great Apes, Chimpanzees, Primates and many more Animals. Its Obvious this Zoo doesn't have the Knowledge and training to handle cases like this, if this is the reason why, then what qualifations do 😊 they have yo be a Keeper. In my opinion, I really don't think many of the keepers here went to college to become a Zoologist. I know that's harsh for me to say. Anyone with proper education and training would have hand raised this Baby in order to insure that this lil Guy would have a Great Future.
My Heart is Extremely Sad and hoping this Zoo will do whats Best and Realize this Baby Boy needs their help..... Hang in there Sweet Boy. ❤
Step by step can take you a long way. They both appear to be moving in the right direction.
I would perhaps be more concerned if Jinnga never let Jarang go or if she neve bothered with him. It is pleasing to see she is never frustrated with him and that Jarang is not constantly looking at his mother for re-assurance
He’s the cutest little thing ever. He might be taking a little while to grow but he’s going to be the biggest, best organgutan that we will ever see ❤❤ Lord has this little fella in his hands and he’s going to be just fine. ❤❤❤
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I missed this video of Jingga and Jarang when it first came out. Glad I caught it. Jingga shows her tenderness with Jarang. So sweet! Thanks, AT.💕
That baby is so adorable I love that costume😅
He’s too darn cute. I’m wondering if a little bit of physical therapy might help him strength hi muscles. He’s so tiny for his age but looks like he’s slowly getting better.
Джаранга определенно докармливают , иначе его уже не было . Спасибо им за это . Но с ним нужно заниматься . ❤😢
Even though I haven't been able to watch your channel as much as I would like to, this is the 1st time I've ever seen him able to nurse but she "NIP RIP's" him away shortly after he was able to latch on.😢 He does appear to be of a good weight so maybe 🤔 staff is pulling him away from Momma and supplemental feeding him. I hope because this wasn't anything but a tease to him. Poor little guy. 😢 Thanks for keeping us updated on his progress as I'm sure you're aware that you have a great amount of followers 😉❤️😉❤️
I am really hoping to get back to the zoo soon for an update and am hoping so much for some good positive development. Thanks so much for your support of the channel. ❤️
Jingga is doing her best.I enjoyed this video ❤❤
Please give us a physical report on jarang. Blackpool gives no information. We folks in the USA REALLY WANT A MEDICAL UPDATE!
It is good to see Jarang wide eyed and moving around more, and even nursing- but I'm no longer buying into the theory of "just let nature take it's course" - an orang infant this age needs more interaction and mobility. He should be attempting to climb and dangle by now.
It is amazing to see this little guy almost sit up on his own.
And then the look on his face as he leans back like a gangsta 🤣
My favourite mom/son oranguan family and second favourite great ape family after my own.
It's not amazing.
He's over 9 MONTHS old.
He should be sitting up, walking AND climbing by now!
He hasn't hit ANY milestones yet.
Even more sad, his genitals are STILL painfully swollen! They've been that way since last October.
WHY haven't Blackpools veterinarians treated this condition?
And why haven't his teeth come in?
He should have a mouthful by now.
Blackpool has him on display. They should inform the public what, exactly, is wrong with Baby Jarang and what steps they're taking to improve his development & well being.
@@HeartTurnedToStone I am very well aware of this. He should also have most if not all of his teeth amounst other indicators for his age. I am in the early stagest of writing a paper on Jinnga and her adpatation in raising a specail needs baby. This is a faciating glimps into the world of our closest great ape cousins.
This is a specail needs baby, can't you be happy there is imrovement no matter how delayed it is. Jarang is close to hitting some of his milestones and that should be celebrated regardles of his developmental issues. They should be celebrated even moreso given his conditions. These are huge steps in his life.
The fact you don't think there is improvment or they should be recognized and something to be excited about speaks volulmes about how you see the world and who you are as a person.
@@Axalotal
Where have you heard that Jarang is a "Special Needs" baby?
Are baby Jarang's "Special Needs" mental? Or physical?
I've scoured the Internet trying to find out what's wrong with him. Blackpool Zoo is totally silent on his development (or lack thereof).
The only things I can find pertain to his birth. Not ONE of those news clips or articles declare Jarang being born as a "Special Needs" baby.
It's unfortunate you spent so much time on a long winded spiel of B.S. in an attempt to defend the neglect of Jingga & Jarang.
What's horrifying is the EXTENSIVE amount of tragic instances we've seen in Ape Trackers short snippets of Baby Jarangs life.
Judging by the comments, 80%-90% of the people agree and they're all saying the same thing:
"Somebody PLEASE STEP IN AND HELP THAT BABY!"
How, exactly, does writing "a paper" help Baby Jarangs quality of life?
While there's a massive laundry list of horrible things I've seen Baby Jarang subjected to in these short snippets, I'm not going to list them now.
With that said, just the fact that Baby Jarangs genitals are so painfully swollen is cause for concern. This has been allowed to go on for over 6 MONTHS (since last October).
So you're okay with that?
Obviously Jingga was too young to have a baby and is an inexperienced mother.
What measures have been taken to teach her "normal" mothering skills?
I'm guessing none since there's no evident improvement.
Poor baby Jarang, never being NURTURED.
He never gets to hear his mothers heartbeat or feel the constant warmth of being cradled like normal Orang mothers do with their babies.
The fact that Jarang is supposedly "Special Needs" means he SHOULD be getting even MORE love & attention than the average baby Orang.
I believe Jarang was born healthy & normal.
If that is indeed the case, Blackpool should have protected Jarang by pulling/protecting him the FIRST time he was slammed on his head - many videos show Jingga dropping him on the hard concrete, head first.
She also grabs him by her foot & proceeds to slam him up against hard objects while she swings around & climbs high.
She drags him across the hard concrete floor like he's a ragdoll. I know Orangs are tough little animals but for a new baby - It's amazing he hasn't suffered broken & dislocated limbs.
Multiple videos show Jarang hungry and wanting to feed. Jingga ALWAYS pulls him off her chest and in most cases, throws him on the hard concrete to lay there hungry while she goes off to do her own thing.
All that, yet we've never heard a peep out of him. He's never cried. Not once.
Even in the videos where he's being violently swung around up high and LOOKS TERRIFIED, he still doesn't cry?
Also, regardless of whether or not Baby Jarang has developmental issues and/or disabilities, it's been evident all along that he's not getting adequate nourishment to help him grow.
It's also evident how WEAK he is.
At NINE MONTHS, not ONE tooth has come in. He should have a mouthful by now.
He's still unable to crawl, stand, walk or climb. I've NEVER seen him cling onto Jingga by himself - she's ALWAYS had to hang onto him.
Blackpool Zoo made a big deal about Jarangs arrival and continue to have him on display. Therefore they should be updating the public regarding Baby Jarangs condition since it's obvious there are indeed, major developmental issues.
What, exactly, is wrong with him?
What is his prognosis?
What kind of physical therapy are they doing with Jarang to build up his strength & improve his mobility?
His living conditions are also atrocious.
Baby Jarang has yet to experience sunshine, fresh air, grass, trees, bugs, etc.
Instead, he's locked up in a hard concrete room with only filthy, feces covered dead dried straw on the floor.
Nothing within his reach to grab onto, climb up, munch on, stimulate his curiosity or play with.
Would you lock your dog or cat up in that room for an entire YEAR?
How 'bout your kid?
They DO share 97% of our DNA.
This is a pathetic environment for Baby Jarang to spend his first year of life in. Poor little guy.
It's sad you're so opposed to having compassion & concern about the well being of Baby Jarang.
Good luck with writing your "paper". That'll do a lot to improve Baby Jarangs life.
Not.
@@HeartTurnedToStone Wow, so much hatred and anger that it is hard to take you seriously. Especially, since you are all over the place with your thoughts.
Also, while this is the internet, be careful what you say as defamation of character laws still apply. I have not been silent on the neglect of Jinnga and Jarang. I am fairly sure I have done more than most. I am not just a keyboard warrior.
For this thread, I am keeping my comments to the medical.
1. Jarang nearly has medical issues that have delayed his mental, emotional and physical growth; and as a baby that makes him special needs. He fits the classic definition.
2. You are making all these claims of abuse and neglect. Are the claims solely off of the video footage from this youtube channel or have you seen other video footage or have you visited the zoo? You are making a lot of serous claimes
Based on this youtube channel and their own research the Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation (BOS) disagrees with you or they would have sent a recovery team already. Please provide the links so I can forward them as proof to the BOS or you can send them to the organization yourself at the follwing website. orangutan.or.id
3.What training do you have in the study of primatology, great apes, orangutans, or biology? Are you making an expert opinion or just guessing based on what you think the Jarang needs?
To claim you have seen no nurturing shows how little of all the footage you have seen and undsestanding of orantuan behavour. While they are oen of our closest family members in the Great Ape family, the way humans and oranguans handel their offspring is vastly differnt. It is unfair to project human ways on to Oranguans.
4. We agree on how all of this is wrong. Why are you concluding that I somehow do not care about what is happening with Jarang and Jinga?
Go back through the videos and you will see my stance has not changed and I am amazed Jarang made it this long. I have commented on just about every video and short - I have watched them all multiple times.
Yes, the zoo should be doing a lot more, but since we don't know what is wrong; perhaps there is nothing the zoo can do. There are medical conditions that are untreatable, too risky or the cost is too great to perform.
I am not excusing the zoo by any means. Several issues were clear from the day Jarang was born.
You are asking great questions. And the answers about what is wrong with him, his prognosis, care plan, WTF is wrong with his groin, was this a birth defect or due to after-birth trauma... the list goes on and on. The zoo should be providing answers.
It is infuriating that people automatically blame the mother, especially when these people have no training and just looking for a quick fix and to blame someone out of anger. It is also not productive by any means.
Jinga is a victim as well. Based on what you are saying, you think there is something wrong with young single mothers. Essentially that's what Jinga is - a young single mother, locked up with little to no help and no way to express what she needs or wants in terms of help. You have all this compassion for a baby and not his mother who is going through the same problems as a worried parrent.
5. Sadly, my research probably won't help Jarang; that is a separate issue I am working on; however, it will help with similar issues in the future when zoos and rehab facilities have to deal with a special needs baby and or their mother.
In most cases it will be only the rescued baby from the illegal pet trade which means rescue and rehab staff will have a better understanding of how to give a more natural care to the child.
Research of this type seldom helps the individual's being observed. But there is always hope.
If you want to do something other than complain and hide behind a computer let me know and we can talk about ways to help this family. Making any change will take a real-world effort and not just commenting on UA-cam.
Disapitingly, almost no one ever takes me up on the offer to provide real world help. It is a testament to how people really are and what they genuinely care about.
@@HeartTurnedToStoneso judgmental. None of us who watch these “snippets” know the full story about these two. The zoo is not the provider of these videos nor do they owe us any explanation. The fact that his teeth haven’t come in is an indicator to me that his lack of physicality is not Jinga’s fault. Just guessing, she is aware of his physical deficiencies and realizes he will not be able to keep up with normal age related markers. He may be wanting to nurse but that doesn’t mean he’s starving. If his primary source of nutrition ha been provided by the zoo staff, she may not be lactating anymore. Bottom line, should they take him from her, and do what with him? These zoos have primate exhibits because they are popular and, therefore, income producers. These are my thoughts, yours may be different, but be kind.
He’s got the cutest little smile and love how he moves his his little lips ❤❤
I can’t help wondering if Jinga somehow knows that there is something wrong with her baby and is letting nature take its course !
He was nursing and mom removed him. Very unusual for an Orangutan Mom to do this.
None of us who watch these “snippets” know the full story about these two. The zoo is not the provider of these videos nor do they owe us any explanation. The fact that his teeth haven’t come in is an indicator to me that his lack of physicality is not Jinga’s fault. Just guessing, she is aware of his physical deficiencies and realizes he will not be able to keep up with normal age related markers. He may be wanting to nurse but that doesn’t mean he’s starving. If his primary source of nutrition ha been provided by the zoo staff, she may not be lactating anymore. Bottom line, should they take him from her, and do what with him? These zoos have primate exhibits because they are popular and, therefore, income producers. These are my thoughts, yours may be different, but be kind.
It’s an endangered animal, nobody cares about the zoo’s income in this instance if they are not providing adequate care.
a google of these two will give u info. the zoo has talked about his health
Ive learned so much from these older videos. I was wondering, do they chew cud like sheep, cows or goats?
No. Chewing cud is when ruminants such as sheep or goats regurgitate undigested food and chew it to grind it finer. Orangutans just seem to like chewing on things, much like humans chewing gum or tobacco.
Still the same pattern😢😢he struggled to get to the breast,this time she actually helped him, but then she only let's him nurse for a few seconds😢 😢😢😢😢
Is he crying when he's opening his mouth wide? Making any noises? I thank you for taking these videos and sharing them with us!❤
His scrotum gets in his way due to the swelling, making it large, and that seems to be the problem. That's why he's having a hard time being mobile and able to maneviour around Jinga. He is eating. He has gained a good amount of weight. If she was not allowing him to feed, all the bones on his lil frame would be showing, or he would no longer be here.
HE HAS A TOOTH COMING IN!! (5:20)
Всё же Джинга молодец,не отказалась от Джаранга,он вполне упитан,значит кормит хорошо❤❤❤
@@راديو76он болен,это уже понятно, главное, что мама от него не отказалась.
@@راديو76 He seems to have developmental issues. Hopefully he will meet his milestones only later like kids with Down's syndrome. He is getting stronger and his grasping and holding seems a lot better.
@@راديو76 I hear you. They possibly need to do some genetic testing and that can be expensive. But perhaps they would have to wait until he is older for that. It would be nice is they revealed their hypotheses about his condition. The good news is she is making sure he eats and he is progressing a little at a time. Maybe he will always be delayed. As long as he can learn to eat and walk around a bit, he can have a really good life.
Его конечно кормят , но этого мало. С ним нужно заниматься, укреплять мышцы, развивать моторику . Его милая мама в этом помочь не может ❤
@@АлевтинаЗуева-п1яМожет,в зоопарке и делают что-то, но у нас мало информации 🤷♀️
Has anyone noticed that she is always chewing? And she does this strange move that looks as though she is regurgitating and re-chewing something. It bothers me.
Also, I have never seen her hold him against her body. On her arm or leg or dangling from a limb, but never against her own body. That, seems very weird to me
If you watch other videos of orangutans you will see that they chew on things a lot. I believe this is perfectly normal behaviour and nothing to worry about.
He is so adorable ❤
I think so Betty 🥰 Thanks as always for watching. 👍
Kind of strange facial expressions baby is making here. (4:34-END)
Wasn’t this little one taken from Jingga? I don’t think she has much maternal instinct. It seems that she is ignoring him. Perhaps these clips are old.
Jingga means orange 🧡
Очень злой эксперимент зоопарка.😢
Awwww - he moved closer to Mama❣ Jarang appears to be growing and getting stronger, and Jingga seems much more engaged and attentive. It's like she's realised that he is a separate, intelligent being like herself, who needs her to care for him. 🥰 The determination on his wee face as he tries to move towards her is just adorable. I can't wait to see what progress they've made together since this film was shot. Thanks for another cracking video, Ape Tracker! 🙏🤩
I was going to not write in this topic anymore, but seeing this euphoria in the comments, it seems to me that not a lot of people realise how an orangutan of this age as Jarang should look and behave. I don't know if the cause of his condition is trauma or neurological problems, I don't know if his mother only feeds him as we see in the videos, so one sip and she immediately pulls him away from the breast (he's small, skinny so it could be like that), I don't know if the zoo has noticed that he most likely has a scrotal hernia and his mother is constantly jerking him around . I know he is not getting proper veterinary care and I still say the zoo is neglecting him. He should be fed and rehabilitated even if he has to be taken away from his mother, because he will never even be able to grip a branch or a rope because his hands are still not functional.I found a video where Jarang was 3 weeks old and had functional hands and fingers, so what happened? in this video she put him face dowen and left him, so I think her fault is his current state of health, she didn't care about him from the beginning.Surely you will delete this comment like the others, but it's hard, someone's the truth becaus
He breastfeeds on Jinga. And has gained alot of weight. He looked really good compared to 4 months ago. He is getting bigger. The vets and specialists have been observing the 2 of them for months now. He is going to have surgery when he is a little stronger. They think his scrotum is the problem, and that's what's causing him not to be where he should be. Hopefully, soon, he will get it. Then I see him learning to sit up, crawl, and walk all in the same day once he is healed up as well.
Jinnga is a tease. She starts to let Jarang feed then pulls him off and lays him down. Be a mom or don’t and let the staff worry about it.
We are unable to see if he latched or not. Jarang does not appear to be underfed, so he is getting milk somewhere. We only see very short snippets and nothing behind the viewing area. I prefer to not jump to negative conclusions. Jarang is obviously “special” and we, as observers, have no idea what the specialists have determined about his future abilities.
@PamPreston78 yes he does. He's almost a year old and is the size of a 3 month old.
@@PamPreston78And he still can't sit up.
That orangutan will always be 'special' or whatever you are calling it. He's old enough to be jumping all over that enclosure. He's definitely still an infant at what, now? 11 months? Just falls over.
He's hungrier than hell. Tried to latch on immediately and she pushed him away. What the heck are you watching?
I am starting to wonder if the seemingly lack of attendance on Jarang is a long process of letting him eventually perish simply by Jingga's lack of mothering skills. He now needs hand rearing, or to supplement his feeding.
The tiny videos just make us more frustrated. We could have a 20 minute one to just view Jingga over a longer period. Something more substantial. He is such a gorgeous little boy.
Elle est vraiment indifférente envers son bébé, il me fait pitié elle ne l aide pas à se tenir assis, en pleine nature ce bébéserait déjà mort😢😢
Let’s give thanks and praise to the zoo for all the wonderful work they have done with this mom and son❤❤
@@VA4LVRSCan you describe the work, please? Based on what I have seen and heard from others, there hasn’t been any.
@@VA4LVRSWHAT??? THEY'RE ALLOWING THIS BABY TO BE MALNOURISHED PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY!
Could not agree more. Shocking to watch this baby struggling to sit up at his age. The mother can't be bothered with him.
This movie was released some time ago, I think
The baby can't crawl, can't sit up or climb around his mother. Not normal and not normal behavior from mom.
She should be feeding him not pulling him away
Oramgutan mothers love their babies
Old video from Feb. Why no new updates?
I am very sad for this baby!! The problem is twofold; inexperienced mother and some kind of physical problem. When an Orangutan is born their grip (all four limbs) is written in their Genes! The Mother never let him hang on her and coupled with the fact that he has some development problems (could be D3 deficient) is a disaster. Bottom line is that the Vets should have intervened a long time ago!! Period!! And, if they have done nothing, then shame on them!!! Please, please help this baby!! And, PLEASE post more videos? He is such a beautiful baby!
I am hoping to get back to the zoo very soon for an update video. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
After watching this video a few times, I can see that some of the issue is cuz Jingga doesn't know enough what to do. Idk if him on her nipple irritates it, maybe it's sensitive & bithers her that she doesn't feed him to the point that he's full or if it's something else. I also am thinking tjat maybe she carries him by her foot cuz maybe it hurts or bothers her when he pulls her fur in other places. I believe she doesn't understand fully that she has to teach him things & help him het stronger. But it's not her fault. She is young and doesn't have any experience as a mother or no examples to teach & show her the proper way. That being said, she does love him & tries her best trying to be a great mommy to little Jarang. I do love to see them and can't wait to see how this little family does as time goes on. They are both beautiful, and Jarang just melts my heart. He's getting more active as time goes on. I'm definitely rooting for the both of them. I would love to see them in person someday. ❤❤😊
There must be something going on, as you mentioned it. I just was visiting the homepage of the Zoo, and they wrote that Jingga and Kawan become Parents of a healthy son, born at 14th of June 2023. Its possible to adopt an Orang Utang for 75 british pounds per month. Maybee we should lay our money down to support Jarrangs little Live❤
@susannepotens5895 OH wow I agree ciz there's definitely something somewhere with this beautiful little boy.
@@mighj354 to me it seems, that all the last videos are maybe old ? there is no new report about Mom and son at the homepage of Blackpool Zoo. I hope we all are not fooled. And that Jarang is still with his Mom
@susannepotens5895 I hope so to. I'm also hoping to see a video update of them soon 🙏 🙂
I’ve watched these since Ape Tracker started posting them. I’ve read all of the comments and have been disappointed by all of the snarky and accusatory ones. The zoo owes us nothing in the way of explanation.
Upon reflection I think Jingga may be depressed. She carried him for 8+ months, birthed him and had a sweet infant, who apparently has motor skill problems. He is unable to keep his balance, which has nothing to do with her teaching him. It’s innate and, to me, an indication of physical deficiencies. This must be disappointing for her as well. Just a thought from a human perspective.
I’m sorry. But I don’t see any tenderness on the mothers side
That baby is being tortured.
I can’t help wondering if Jinga somehow knows that there is something wrong with her baby and is letting nature take its course !
Maybe, they are super intelligent, thanks so much for watching. 🥰