Nikita is also the guy who proudly talked about his realization that a healthy cheating community in Contract Wars was good for finances. The guy has no intent of tackling cheating, he never has as he sees it as beneficial. He only will ever do enough to be able to claim he’s trying while keeping the massive community as a reserve fund. Hell, we saw this play out after the arena finance losses were announced. All in the same week they announced financial hardship, ran a record ban wave, and put bundles of game keys on discounted sale. It’s probably also why they’re nerfing PvE as it draws actual players away from PvP increasing the noticeable population density of cheaters.
I think it’s more mental.. easier to say I died to a cheater and move on then realize you got outplayed when in reality you maybe only run into cheaters 1 out if 500 raids.
Not if the BSG benefits from cheaters thing is true. Especially considering actual cheaters and devs have said BE is a joke compared to say VAC or Easy etc. I don't see why he wouldn't want the help it makes BSG's job easier.
@hopedream11 well obviously they do is a continuous cash stream. But if they ban more = more profit for buying new acc so that is also not how you go about it.
A big factor is also the Unity engine, its one of the most easiest engines to make cheats for. As they are using a engine that is not their own its actually impossible to write code to combat new cheats. The game is actually screwed if we are being honest. They can only apply artificial solutions outside of the game. For every solution they write hackers can easily find the source code and write a counter script.
Ive said it a million times on these kinds of videos. BSG does not actively care that there is a cheating issue. They do a small ban wave , and collect all the money from people re buying the game. Wash and repeat. It's an infinite money glitch IRL.
I say the same thing and people tell me I'm crazy for saying it's a conspiracy or something. It's just common sense. They just don't care. And they profit, because they don't care. So why would they care?
@Darktician people's usual cope is they don't make much money from it to which one asks: How did they make money for the game earlier in development? Because game didn't blow up until 2020/2021 ie it peaked around this time. Aside from throwing the RU players aside from certain ones whom also are shitty people away, cheaters were and are another source of revenue. Who else is buying 3 to 4 more accounts? It ain't non cheaters. But you get called a conspiracy theorist for not believing Nikita whom already showed he cares about money and his vision not the community.
@@tankman66 there are tons of games who do this and keep making money and move on. The anti cheat team goal is just to keep it clean enough to keep people playing. They care but their are not getting paid to get them all and they might know the probably but you think they are the ones coding the fix, they dont know whats wrong and typically after a fix the mod dev is already working on a patch/update. Also they make more money the more cheaters have to rebuy. Then having 50k people playing everyday. Since none will get banned and most if not all are not buying storage or any of that other junk they offer so they need cheaters for steady income. They said before arena cameout they need to make money. They are a business after all in Russia none the less lol. They will take all the money they can get. Some games have way higher turn over, like everyday bans hundreds of cheaters, cost like few $ to get cheat and few more for game key. But eft is expensive but cheaper in Russia. Also the cheats are typically more expensive so ya sure there are quite bit cheaters but turn over is way lower then like apex, rust, cod. Hence why some people dont get banned for weeks it sucks but they don't care. Good example of this is csgo/cs2 had cheating issues forever now yet its still one of if not the most played game on steam. Think about it
Been playing pretty much every wipe I can honestly say Nikita loves cheaters in his game he likes doing small ban waves to make money TBH I wouldn't be surprised if Nikita is also a cheat seller of his own game.. He does not and read again HE DOES NOT care about catching and stopping cheaters the games been controlled by them from the auction house to in game and Nikita DOES NOT CARE you either have to deal with the cheating or cheat to keep up either way kind of sucks but the other option is to quit supporting Nikita and the game I can say I quit a few wipes ago and it felt good playing other stuff I have recently started playing Tarkov again it seems like they have had to change so many things on the game to make it harder for cheaters but refuse to update anti cheat and come out with things like save replay or watch last 10 seconds before death or something... the game would be cheater free if they made a tribunal or overwatch whatever you want to call it where the community can go watch hackusations and vote yes or no on cheating... another and last thing I want to say is YES I have cheated on tarkov before and trust me there was at least 1 other cheater in every raid and thats putting it lightly I would say most raids had at least 2 sometimes more so all you people that say "i dont run into them or i have never seen one" you are just too ignorant to understand some of your deaths are a cheater waiting for you or posting up or spotting you... or even avoiding you to do tasks or take loot before you get there.. so zip your lips and trust the people that have cheated telling you the cheating is that bad at least 10% of the player base and community is cheating if I see at least 1 person in every raid cheating as I am and like I said thats putting it lightly.
I thought I'd add information that I know as a kernel developer, There is a misconception about externals, they can just be software that you install. most externals consist of two things, an unsigned driver loaded by a venerable signed driver and a highjacked application like Nvidia overlay to render the data the external has read from memory. The problem with detecting externals is that the easiest way is to scan the computers active memory for a specific signature that you have to get from reverse engineering the cheat it's self which can take a very very long time, they also hook into windows drivers to attempt to hide them selves and communicate with the usermode application. One more thing I'd like to add is that people using cheats don't understand what they are putting into there pc, these cheating applications can steal any data on a users computer or even brick the pc to the point where you have to install windows again, or even worse boot your operating system into a hypervisor that would require a complete wipe of the SSD or drive to reverse.
I'd also like to add some advice, contact battle-eye they are the ones that will take the decompiled drivers and signature scan them, battle-state doesn't know how to do this them selves
Thank you and your Team for all the efforts you put in, even when it doesnt get the appreciation that it deserves. I cant imagine how frustrating it must be to be ignored from the dev Team just because they are incapable of solving the problem completely. Since the last Wipe i can feel that the cheater problem is getting better. Now imagine bsg and battleeye working together with you guys or atleast work with the informations they got from you, it would be solved real quick!
Found spt around the time Unheard came out. Never played Tarkov again. And I don't have any concerns about people cheating on a 8 year old game that's never gonna be released like star citizen.
@@notyalc999 I play it every few wipes. I think I've seen 2 cheaters in the last wipe I played. So instead of blaming everything else why don't you try to get better? No you just play on a fake version of the game alone. So fun 🤦
@P1DZz you are pressed about another man's free time 😂 get a grip on your life dog you won't be a pro gamer anytime soon dickhead, you're mad i'm having fun doing one raid once in a while in a game notorius for being time consuming, you're so cool man please take my girlfriend
That's not true, the cheats don't work like that at all. This video is clickbait and says absolutely nothing of value. The way cheaters mask themselves is by using a DMA card to directly access their computer's RAM. These types of cheats are completely undetectable by software.
This is not just happening in Tarkov. Any game that is run locally on your PC can be cheated this way. This includes any online game like DayZ, Rust, Tarkov, CS2, Valorant...everything.
From what I understand, 95% of the cheat devs are Russian. These devs are more than likely working with BSG to make a better cheat each time BSG updates the game to combat cheaters.
Well compiled and explained video which although I had knowledge of the majority of the content you put it in a clear and concise format which I appreciate.
@@DankTank374 not is, was, the live insight he provides into the tarkov cheater scene is as invaluable today as the Wiggle That Killed Tarkov video was when it released
@@LucasImpulsemost of the insight he provides is information that was already available from previous interviews and or basic deductible reasoning. Or just stuff you get from cheaters forums/discords. The only thing he's honestly really said that was valuable was the BSG made it so people can't see loot in containers and that was exposed on Reddit
I've completely quit EFT, the Hacking going on right now is still utterly insane. I use to LOVE it, but now I flat out hate the game due to how the cheaters have ruined everything.
God bless you good sir and i hope you and your family the best! you are doing the lords work uncovering this sinister disgusting corrupted slim that is the cheating scene in one of my favorite shooters!
Incredible video going in depth about cheats. I don't understand why some comments are hating/disliking this. Most popular dislike comment I see is "Ai brainrot" but why does that matter if it's AI? I think these people are just hating because some person they like told them to hate. NPC's.
In general the whole cheating issue regarding EFT is blown up by people, because it's a game, which is extremely difficult from various angles and deaths in this game are sometimes really a hard slap in the face, where naturally humans tend to go for easy explanations. I adopted something like a "Ninja" playstyle about a year ago. Go I raids with very expensive loadouts. Moving covered, much listening , very slowly and making pauses. You could call it ratting, but my priority when pausing in a spot is not for ambushing someone, but more for hiding. Sometimes I'm lucky and someone runs in front of my barrel. My goal is simply surving, because I'm bad at PVP. NOT ONE SINGLE TIME I was hunted down or magically discovered by someone.
When you start the player hunting missions u will find them. I don't see heaps until have them cornered Then I have had them wall bang me, fly and speed in front of me
Playing fifth wipe, and this one has some most blatant cheaters for some reason. There was 5 occasions in one day when me and my fellas was 100% sure we got killed by cheater and also saw one looting wia a flyhack very same day. Deaths was like no - info grenades, head eyes of all of us from nowhere wia a prefire etc, all of cheater folks had stats like 100 hours 1000 kills and huge KD. I guess you are just lucky for not being targeted by cheaters even considering your gameplay
The most shocking thing is that one of UA-cam's biggest cheese "whistleblowers" is currently one of the biggest cheaters in the game and despite the fact that he has admitted it himself. Everyone still believes it lol 10IQ gaming the rage hackers cheater reseller who have 20 alt account / 20+ community cheese discord / and making money on young people.
they have done alot to combat that tho.... they made region locked accs require to be in that region while playing, removed the bundles.. The problem is people use stolen credit cards to buy accounts and resell them... These purchases do not profit BSG in anyway when the card owner charge backs... This is most likely the reason they did anything to it tho...
@@positif-govno4131 Ok and? Your point? That just means they are perfect accounts to use for carrying raids... Why pay someone close to 20$ for tarkov acc when you probs can get accs bought with stolen card info for like 5-10$
is it possible for you to produce VERY bad cheats for free as a trial basis, that instantly flags the user by anticheat to have their accounts banned right away? I would love to taint the cheat industry with garbage to poison their market.
I just can't stop thinking that, maybe, MAYBE bsg gave up the anti - cheat fight, I haven't seen a game this bad at battling cheats... (there are games worse but never really played them, chill out) I may have not understood all the videos but I still have this thought
But the cheat device update the cheat within minutes of detection so it's a hugely lost battle. Cheating will always thrive without proper cheat detection
nikita will never take any help dealing with cheaters because he doesnt want the gone, he has said before when talking at some expo that cheaters are good for games. they wont ban even if they know your cheating until a certain point. they wont ban ALL cheaters at the same time because he would lose a chunk of his player base to tote to investors. he wont hardware or ip ban because the cheaters will buy another copy of the game which means more money for BSG. he wants there to be cheaters and he is purposefully not banning them all to control his cash flow for the cheaters who buy more and more accounts
Thank You for your Info quit tarkov few weeks Ago cause i thaught bsg doesnt care about cheaters. Now i have the confirmation and wont Pay for this silly idiots anymore
Not defending it, but if someone came to me and said "I can fix your problem because I've secretly integrated myself into the community and have decieved them all" I'd be nervous to work with them lmao
I used to make trainers back in the 90's You know how you combat cheaters today? You discredit places that provide cheats. If the community is scared of getting malware/virals from a scene they won't use it. You do enough damage, and people are less likely to aim for common outlets. On the private scenes, you need to rat their staff systems, and break them from within. Reverse engineering their software is meaningless. Neither anti-cheat, or developers care. It's a all a business, but if you want to play with a high morality you have to be willing to do some cruel things to make a difference.
I think the only solution is basically the same as it is for viruses, it's a constant cat and mouse game, a never ending battle, either you have to constantly be looking for any new hacks and then patching the holes that let them work, or banning people who even slightly look funny, and then having some kind of appeal process, either way costs money, takes considerable manpower, the thing is though, in this day and age, with gaming bigger than it's ever been, if you don't do at least one, if not both of those things, you can't get rid of cheaters, I think that's why so many multi-player fps games die when they reach a certain player population, there's like, a threshold before there are so many cheaters that people start to quit.
@@AKATenn what a lot of developers have done in the past is install logic gates that if tripped would get people banned. doing the impossible, doing things normal players weren't able to, and banning those types. No better anti-cheat than that.
Discrediting businesses that provides cheats accomplishes nothing. Nowadays, with online only businesses, rebranding and paying for fake reviews and customers is very easy, and something that happens often.
We need more of this… The tarkov community needs to come together and expose everything every single bug, every single glitch, every single exploit every single hack cheat and RMT. Even if it’s been said before and even if BSG knows about it already, there should be multiple lists from hundreds of people of what’s wrong with everything.
Would be nice if tho if they didnt spread misinformation like this guy... He has no idea how internal and external cheats work... Yet continues to explain them wrong... lmao
@@kidsinafrica3080 External hacks for PC games operate by interacting with the game from outside its process. Here’s a simplified breakdown of how they work: Separate Execution: External cheats run as separate executable files (.exe) from the game itself. They don’t inject code directly into the game’s process like internal cheats do1. Memory Manipulation: These hacks use functions like ReadProcessMemory and WriteProcessMemory to read and modify the game’s memory. This allows them to change game variables, such as player health, ammo, or position1. Data Extraction: External cheats can extract data from the game, such as player coordinates or enemy positions, by reading the game’s memory. This data can then be used to provide advantages like wallhacks (seeing through walls) or aimbots (automatically aiming at enemies)2. User Interface: Many external hacks come with a user interface that allows players to toggle features on and off, adjust settings, and monitor the hack’s status. Detection and Risks: While external hacks are generally easier to develop and use, they can be detected by anti-cheat systems like VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat). These systems scan for known cheat signatures and unusual game behavior Internal hacks for PC games work by injecting code directly into the game’s process, allowing for more seamless and powerful modifications. Here’s a breakdown of how they operate: DLL Injection: Internal hacks typically involve injecting a Dynamic Link Library (DLL) into the game’s process. This DLL contains the code that will modify the game’s behavior1. Hooking Functions: Once the DLL is injected, the hack can hook into the game’s functions. This means it can intercept and alter function calls, such as those for rendering graphics or handling player input1. Direct Memory Access: Internal hacks have direct access to the game’s memory. This allows them to read and write game variables more efficiently than external hacks. For example, they can modify player health, ammo, or position instantly1. Custom Code Execution: By injecting their own code, internal hacks can execute custom logic within the game’s process. This can include features like aimbots, wallhacks, or speed hacks1. Anti-Cheat Evasion: Internal hacks often use advanced techniques to evade detection by anti-cheat systems. This can include obfuscating code, using kernel-level drivers, or employing sophisticated hooking methods So far he wasn’t wrong about anything he said……
Beat a dead horse some more. Everyone knows this, they don’t care. Play or don’t, everyone knows the issues the devs couldn’t care less it’s more money for them.
We don't agree that BSG "doesn't care", their contract with BattlEye is actually very limited and BattlEye takes advantage of low to middle class game studio's to force them into a unfavorable contract. We hope that BSG will fight this contract legally and jump into combined contracts with other AC Companies like EAC. BSG also removed the bundle option from the accounts a year ago, still a little late, but they do care. As for Anti-Cheat companies, they also DO care about battling cheaters, saying otherwise is straight up ignorant. They don't profit off cheaters, they profit off game companies wanting to combat it.
I was hoping you would atleast prove one thing your saying in this video... You literally just yapped for 26 mins and proved 0... I mean cool video and all but your going ro struggle to grow an audience just yappen and proving nothing man. I just watched 26 mins of trust me bros and wild claims with 0 proof.
It's not entirely bs, a lot of the information is factual with how cheating works within unity. Externally as well. However the point of this video is pointless. Ultimately it's BSG's fault for not dealing with the cheating issues. There are ways to combat this, but BSG does very little.
@@abonynge you've never messed around ttS? it's been around for decades. We just have better audio outputs now than before. having a script and having a vocalist ai read out isn't something new just improved.
Getting banned for exploiting in a game that's in beta is wild. We are supposed to be testing the game but also at the same time, don't test the nono parts. Be honest. They are no longer treating the game as a beta, it's been treated as live service since EOD.
I'm more concerned about how bugs like the crouch invisible players bug that got patched last wipe got past ETS servers. Where they're supposed to fix that sort of stuff. That tells me more about BSG then the cheats.
The solution is to play offline against bots. Sufficiently advanced bots are much MUCH more rewarding to hunt than the losers you'll find playing trash like Tarkov.
There is no enjoyment in killing things that didn't put time and effort looting, questing, and bringing in expensive gear. SPT or PVE can never give you the same satisfaction. it is only good for larping marines.
@@tzav Okay, so you don't care about succeeding and improving in order to feel a sense of accomplishment, you simply need to destroy someone elses work. You can't enjoy a game UNLESS you are making the game unenjoyable for others. I guess we found the cheaters right here.
@@WOWMelted Fighting garbage bots is boring as hell. Fighting competent bots that can work together and perform maneuvers that will overwhelm you and make you really struggle to survive is a perfectly rewarding experience. Unless you're the same kinda sad loser as @tzav, and you just can't get off without trolling newbies.
@@operator8014literally the same argument cheaters use.. "im not bad I just like seeing the game and seeing the good loot", people like you should play spt and leave the main game alone
the fact the biggest video on eft was goats and his main account got banned but not the account he cheated on.... cant spill some info but certain cheat devs have actual connects to the real devs. i cheated for 2 weeks and raged hack on scavs and bosses and the amount of people that would run me down was insane. but i had the better cheats, and have only rage hacked on a 3 stack a 2 stack a a solo with a stupid high KD. cheating in games is as easy as putting something in the microwave if not easier. and there is no duping lmfao
There is duping tho... atleast the red ledx thing was real "dupe" as with cheats you could pick quest items without having that quest, you could go in over and over again to get em, then sell to therapist. But how else do you explain the insane rep and insane stacks of things for sale from same people? The dupe is real...
@@kidsinafrica3080 whatever you say bud, vacuum cheats are cheaper than ESP and its not hard to hold onto items and sell as a stack or bundle. you act like you cant buy and resell on the flea. if youve cheated then youd know there is no duping cheat.
@@EnvyKoi Vacuum cheats are 1. Patched and 2. Were sold at an additional 50$ above the normal cheat package for the 2 cheats that obtained the method, one of which required you to have a lifetime subscription which costed 300$. The duping cheat the other person responding to you about was 100% a thing, and only worked with quest items, this was patched by BSG the same day it got attention, not the method but the ability to sell the red LEDX As to the duping exploit, it 100% works, you can go into any raid right now alone and do what we explained in the video, preferably a bigger sized map. Believing otherwise is 100% ignorance.
@@TarkovInfo after testing im absolutely shocked, this wasnt a thing in the past so CLEARLY it blew over my head. idk when this became a thing but when i cheated it wasnt, and most of the huge stack of rare items on flea was from vacuum. its not $50 though and still isnt fully patched, but after looking into it, its fairly detectable thus thinking its been patched out. great video btw
the problem is cheaters don't get banned enough but ppl like me who have just play the game and never cheat get banned for no reasons and i still don't know why and my friends either
They should have just hired the SPT devs to make the PVE.... Its way better than tarkovs PVE... And it does not cost you anything more than the base game...
How can you make yourself seem like professional yet you yap nonsense... You want to clear misinformation yet you spread misinformation lmao... Like some info is correct.. like how raid0 works etc.. but the info about cheats is mostly just wrong....
Please explain what the misinformation is in the video, aside from our mistake with the data array within RAID 0 which we corrected in the description and within the video?
if you gonna blame someone for misinformation at least come with a claim? your comment is pointless negative feedback that doesnt even include the feedback.
😂 26 mins of trust me bro's with 0 proof. Anyone could just get a AI voice to claim doing something for 26 mins and just play some pointless footage in the background. Lol very lazy for someone who SUPPOSEDLY did soooo much cheater battling. Funny he didn't even have any footage at all of anything to show.
@@kidsinafrica3080 Definitely not, but that's also not what was said in the video, we do know, that external cheats also can have features that READ the memory, they can also have loaders, as to why it said: "not limited to" However, for simplicity of the video, we decided to split the two for the general joe to understand. As for the your comment that "having a loader makes it internal", it was never said like that, we said that most internals WILL have a loader, because MOST cheats will not give you the plain dll and ask you to inject it yourself nor to find a vulnerable driver to help inject it 'safely'. We explained in the video what differentiates internals and externals, without going to the full extend and details All information said in the video is factual and is all the average joe needs to know to not fall into the trap of easy misinformation.
@@TarkovInfo fak em. half of the idiot comments doesnt even watch the video like the guy on the top almost complained about you didnt meantion the spoof card but you literally had a full section about it. i understand where you coming from and why you dont want to expose who you are or who you working for , i have never cheated in a online gamee EVER. i love to use mods in single player game tho but that is for me and doesnt affect anyone else beside my own game journey! but i have been a criminal have done time a bit of time actually and i know what people do for money now days and back in the day.. its not worth the risk to provide random ppl with "facts" when the facts is clear.
Проблема в том, что по заявлению буянова, за годы разработки игры он научился, по его утверждению, не воспринимать критику в свой адрес и в адрес игры. Ваше мнение ему безразлично.
I honestly don't mind skill farming bots. Especially since some skills must be leveled in the DUMBEST way ever (looking at you, vitality.) Bumped into a guy that was running in circles, spamming reloads and voicelines, in arena and I was more impressed about the tech behind it more than anything. And from a pragmatical standpoint, it's the best way to respect your (limited) time on earth, the fact that, even *with* these guys added in, over the course of the last wipes, barely half the community got to max strength / endurance is BAFFLING. At the very least, arena gives an incentive to farm skills legitimately so it's a step in the good direction, but I truly believe "soft" hacking (ie, hacking that will not impact the gameplay of other players by giving you an unfair advantage for aiming / firing / seeing your opponent) is mostly born out of bad game design.
Don't ban, just put cheaters into cheater lobbies. They can cheat together.
Will be funny to see some streamers start to non stop complain about cheaters
Then they need their own fleamarket, and non cheaters who regularly party with cheaters should get stuck in cheater purgatory aswell.
Counter strike does that and it dose not work, a lot of times really good legit players end up in cheater games
@@dfsafsaifybecause they cheated
@@jbeard3390 yeah I never used a single cheat on my steam account after I win like 10 matches in a row I get put in cheater lobies it dosen’t work
Nikita is also the guy who proudly talked about his realization that a healthy cheating community in Contract Wars was good for finances. The guy has no intent of tackling cheating, he never has as he sees it as beneficial. He only will ever do enough to be able to claim he’s trying while keeping the massive community as a reserve fund.
Hell, we saw this play out after the arena finance losses were announced. All in the same week they announced financial hardship, ran a record ban wave, and put bundles of game keys on discounted sale.
It’s probably also why they’re nerfing PvE as it draws actual players away from PvP increasing the noticeable population density of cheaters.
They nerfed pve loot?
Millions of dollars these past few years they have made off a game in beta by reselling to cheaters.
I think it’s more mental.. easier to say I died to a cheater and move on then realize you got outplayed when in reality you maybe only run into cheaters 1 out if 500 raids.
The fact that Nikkita didn't take the free help is fucking sad.
Not if the BSG benefits from cheaters thing is true. Especially considering actual cheaters and devs have said BE is a joke compared to say VAC or Easy etc. I don't see why he wouldn't want the help it makes BSG's job easier.
There have been devs that took free help with anti cheat in the past only for them to make backdoors.
@@Romey1son they shouldn't have them work on the code. But their input and statistics go a long way.
@hopedream11 well obviously they do is a continuous cash stream. But if they ban more = more profit for buying new acc so that is also not how you go about it.
A big factor is also the Unity engine, its one of the most easiest engines to make cheats for. As they are using a engine that is not their own its actually impossible to write code to combat new cheats. The game is actually screwed if we are being honest. They can only apply artificial solutions outside of the game.
For every solution they write hackers can easily find the source code and write a counter script.
Ive said it a million times on these kinds of videos. BSG does not actively care that there is a cheating issue. They do a small ban wave , and collect all the money from people re buying the game. Wash and repeat. It's an infinite money glitch IRL.
It's infinite until the game is killed off because of it, which is coming sooner than they may like
I say the same thing and people tell me I'm crazy for saying it's a conspiracy or something. It's just common sense. They just don't care. And they profit, because they don't care. So why would they care?
@Darktician people's usual cope is they don't make much money from it to which one asks: How did they make money for the game earlier in development? Because game didn't blow up until 2020/2021 ie it peaked around this time.
Aside from throwing the RU players aside from certain ones whom also are shitty people away, cheaters were and are another source of revenue. Who else is buying 3 to 4 more accounts? It ain't non cheaters.
But you get called a conspiracy theorist for not believing Nikita whom already showed he cares about money and his vision not the community.
@@tankman66 there are tons of games who do this and keep making money and move on. The anti cheat team goal is just to keep it clean enough to keep people playing. They care but their are not getting paid to get them all and they might know the probably but you think they are the ones coding the fix, they dont know whats wrong and typically after a fix the mod dev is already working on a patch/update. Also they make more money the more cheaters have to rebuy. Then having 50k people playing everyday. Since none will get banned and most if not all are not buying storage or any of that other junk they offer so they need cheaters for steady income. They said before arena cameout they need to make money. They are a business after all in Russia none the less lol. They will take all the money they can get. Some games have way higher turn over, like everyday bans hundreds of cheaters, cost like few $ to get cheat and few more for game key. But eft is expensive but cheaper in Russia. Also the cheats are typically more expensive so ya sure there are quite bit cheaters but turn over is way lower then like apex, rust, cod. Hence why some people dont get banned for weeks it sucks but they don't care. Good example of this is csgo/cs2 had cheating issues forever now yet its still one of if not the most played game on steam. Think about it
@@tankman66 bingo
Been playing pretty much every wipe I can honestly say Nikita loves cheaters in his game he likes doing small ban waves to make money TBH I wouldn't be surprised if Nikita is also a cheat seller of his own game.. He does not and read again HE DOES NOT care about catching and stopping cheaters the games been controlled by them from the auction house to in game and Nikita DOES NOT CARE you either have to deal with the cheating or cheat to keep up either way kind of sucks but the other option is to quit supporting Nikita and the game I can say I quit a few wipes ago and it felt good playing other stuff I have recently started playing Tarkov again it seems like they have had to change so many things on the game to make it harder for cheaters but refuse to update anti cheat and come out with things like save replay or watch last 10 seconds before death or something... the game would be cheater free if they made a tribunal or overwatch whatever you want to call it where the community can go watch hackusations and vote yes or no on cheating... another and last thing I want to say is YES I have cheated on tarkov before and trust me there was at least 1 other cheater in every raid and thats putting it lightly I would say most raids had at least 2 sometimes more so all you people that say "i dont run into them or i have never seen one" you are just too ignorant to understand some of your deaths are a cheater waiting for you or posting up or spotting you... or even avoiding you to do tasks or take loot before you get there.. so zip your lips and trust the people that have cheated telling you the cheating is that bad at least 10% of the player base and community is cheating if I see at least 1 person in every raid cheating as I am and like I said thats putting it lightly.
I thought I'd add information that I know as a kernel developer, There is a misconception about externals, they can just be software that you install. most externals consist of two things, an unsigned driver loaded by a venerable signed driver and a highjacked application like Nvidia overlay to render the data the external has read from memory. The problem with detecting externals is that the easiest way is to scan the computers active memory for a specific signature that you have to get from reverse engineering the cheat it's self which can take a very very long time, they also hook into windows drivers to attempt to hide them selves and communicate with the usermode application. One more thing I'd like to add is that people using cheats don't understand what they are putting into there pc, these cheating applications can steal any data on a users computer or even brick the pc to the point where you have to install windows again, or even worse boot your operating system into a hypervisor that would require a complete wipe of the SSD or drive to reverse.
I'd also like to add some advice, contact battle-eye they are the ones that will take the decompiled drivers and signature scan them, battle-state doesn't know how to do this them selves
Wonder how many of those viewers of the video are active cheaters in the game...
Thank you and your Team for all the efforts you put in, even when it doesnt get the appreciation that it deserves.
I cant imagine how frustrating it must be to be ignored from the dev Team just because they are incapable of solving the problem completely.
Since the last Wipe i can feel that the cheater problem is getting better. Now imagine bsg and battleeye working together with you guys or atleast work with the informations they got from you, it would be solved real quick!
You must be smoking crack, this wipe has been the worst it has ever been in terms of cheaters.
Found spt around the time Unheard came out. Never played Tarkov again. And I don't have any concerns about people cheating on a 8 year old game that's never gonna be released like star citizen.
Sptarkov is great its the only way i can actually enjoy the game
PvE is boring AF I dunno how you can be bothered
@@P1DZz yeah try to jump in the sweatiest and cheated game in 2024 as a noob then tell me how much fun did you have
@@notyalc999 I play it every few wipes. I think I've seen 2 cheaters in the last wipe I played. So instead of blaming everything else why don't you try to get better? No you just play on a fake version of the game alone. So fun 🤦
@P1DZz you are pressed about another man's free time 😂 get a grip on your life dog you won't be a pro gamer anytime soon dickhead, you're mad i'm having fun doing one raid once in a while in a game notorius for being time consuming, you're so cool man please take my girlfriend
Paying 3$ for a kill in a video game is wild behaviour
wayyy more than $3 a kill. Likely $10-15 per 24 hours of access. Insanity
28000 account banned = 1.4 mil new turn over :)
The fact that cheaters can use bots to hide their cheats or do things for them in tarkov just blows my mind
That's not true, the cheats don't work like that at all. This video is clickbait and says absolutely nothing of value.
The way cheaters mask themselves is by using a DMA card to directly access their computer's RAM. These types of cheats are completely undetectable by software.
This is not just happening in Tarkov. Any game that is run locally on your PC can be cheated this way. This includes any online game like DayZ, Rust, Tarkov, CS2, Valorant...everything.
@@MashBro They cant mask their kd with an dma card, so they use bots to walk in raid and die, think that is what he meant
@@MashBro i guess you didnt watch the video?
@@saloscontent You didn't read anything I said, and you didn't even read the original comment. You didn't watch the video. Go away.
This has to go viral. Maybe something will finally change.
Allegedly, BSG works with cheat providers for extra money
From what I understand, 95% of the cheat devs are Russian. These devs are more than likely working with BSG to make a better cheat each time BSG updates the game to combat cheaters.
Well compiled and explained video which although I had knowledge of the majority of the content you put it in a clear and concise format which I appreciate.
I love how direct and aggressive this message was. Also informative.
Thank you for the work, sad you guys werent supported as much.
The information they are giving is completely correct and exists. You’d know this if you spent time in these communities.
Interesting video. I have to say that the cheating doesnt feel as bad as the start of last wipe. 10IQ did a good video where he interviewed a cheater.
That guy is a Cheater. He is just a toxic hater that cheats in every game he plays.
10iq is a self confessed cheater, he *is* part of the problem.
@@DankTank374 was a cheater and hes never denied ot unlike your favorite streamer.
@@DankTank374 not is, was, the live insight he provides into the tarkov cheater scene is as invaluable today as the Wiggle That Killed Tarkov video was when it released
@@LucasImpulsemost of the insight he provides is information that was already available from previous interviews and or basic deductible reasoning. Or just stuff you get from cheaters forums/discords. The only thing he's honestly really said that was valuable was the BSG made it so people can't see loot in containers and that was exposed on Reddit
I've completely quit EFT, the Hacking going on right now is still utterly insane. I use to LOVE it, but now I flat out hate the game due to how the cheaters have ruined everything.
God bless you good sir and i hope you and your family the best! you are doing the lords work uncovering this sinister disgusting corrupted slim that is the cheating scene in one of my favorite shooters!
Incredible video going in depth about cheats. I don't understand why some comments are hating/disliking this. Most popular dislike comment I see is "Ai brainrot" but why does that matter if it's AI? I think these people are just hating because some person they like told them to hate. NPC's.
In general the whole cheating issue regarding EFT is blown up by people, because it's a game, which is extremely difficult from various angles and deaths in this game are sometimes really a hard slap in the face, where naturally humans tend to go for easy explanations.
I adopted something like a "Ninja" playstyle about a year ago. Go I raids with very expensive loadouts. Moving covered, much listening , very slowly and making pauses. You could call it ratting, but my priority when pausing in a spot is not for ambushing someone, but more for hiding. Sometimes I'm lucky and someone runs in front of my barrel. My goal is simply surving, because I'm bad at PVP.
NOT ONE SINGLE TIME I was hunted down or magically discovered by someone.
Sounds boring.
When you start the player hunting missions u will find them. I don't see heaps until have them cornered Then I have had them wall bang me, fly and speed in front of me
Playing fifth wipe, and this one has some most blatant cheaters for some reason. There was 5 occasions in one day when me and my fellas was 100% sure we got killed by cheater and also saw one looting wia a flyhack very same day. Deaths was like no - info grenades, head eyes of all of us from nowhere wia a prefire etc, all of cheater folks had stats like 100 hours 1000 kills and huge KD. I guess you are just lucky for not being targeted by cheaters even considering your gameplay
@@DankTank374 Like your comment?
"I don't think people starving is a problem. I buy myself dinner everyday, not once did I go hungry"
The most shocking thing is that one of UA-cam's biggest cheese "whistleblowers" is currently one of the biggest cheaters in the game and despite the fact that he has admitted it himself. Everyone still believes it lol 10IQ gaming the rage hackers cheater reseller who have 20 alt account / 20+ community cheese discord / and making money on young people.
Comment for more spread
yes this is the video for the times
"There would be no need for Anti-Cheat companies if there were no cheaters."
Ya Think
So much Ai brainrot
and you don't thin Nikita is not making money off of selling another account when a cheater gets caught? LOL. follow the money......
they have done alot to combat that tho.... they made region locked accs require to be in that region while playing, removed the bundles..
The problem is people use stolen credit cards to buy accounts and resell them... These purchases do not profit BSG in anyway when the card owner charge backs...
This is most likely the reason they did anything to it tho...
@@kidsinafrica3080 they dont use stolen credit cards, bsg doesnt care if the card is linked to a banned account, money is money.
@@kidsinafrica3080 any acc is linked to the card the owner used to buy it.
Try buying skins on LoL and charging back. Your account gets locked
@@positif-govno4131 Ok and? Your point? That just means they are perfect accounts to use for carrying raids... Why pay someone close to 20$ for tarkov acc when you probs can get accs bought with stolen card info for like 5-10$
is it possible for you to produce VERY bad cheats for free as a trial basis, that instantly flags the user by anticheat to have their accounts banned right away? I would love to taint the cheat industry with garbage to poison their market.
I just can't stop thinking that, maybe, MAYBE bsg gave up the anti - cheat fight, I haven't seen a game this bad at battling cheats... (there are games worse but never really played them, chill out)
I may have not understood all the videos but I still have this thought
Tarkov uses basic level protection which detects known cheat programs there is no actually cheat detection.
But the cheat device update the cheat within minutes of detection so it's a hugely lost battle. Cheating will always thrive without proper cheat detection
I infact dont play this game but the video has reached me.
Once a while i come here on yt to see how bad the tarkov situation got. So happy i dont play it anymore🎉
BSG can't spend more money on anticheat. That would take away from the cut Nikita sends to the Kremlin!
Und nachts fressen die ihre Kinder .
Can confirm you don’t have to take that many steps to get back to playing Tarkov lmao
What in the ChatGPT is this?
nikita will never take any help dealing with cheaters because he doesnt want the gone, he has said before when talking at some expo that cheaters are good for games. they wont ban even if they know your cheating until a certain point. they wont ban ALL cheaters at the same time because he would lose a chunk of his player base to tote to investors. he wont hardware or ip ban because the cheaters will buy another copy of the game which means more money for BSG. he wants there to be cheaters and he is purposefully not banning them all to control his cash flow for the cheaters who buy more and more accounts
Thank You for your Info quit tarkov few weeks Ago cause i thaught bsg doesnt care about cheaters. Now i have the confirmation and wont Pay for this silly idiots anymore
Just commenting for the algorithm
Wow, so you did all the work and BSG and Battle eye couldn't even do something as simple as following through with everything you did.
Not defending it, but if someone came to me and said "I can fix your problem because I've secretly integrated myself into the community and have decieved them all" I'd be nervous to work with them lmao
I used to make trainers back in the 90's
You know how you combat cheaters today? You discredit places that provide cheats. If the community is scared of getting malware/virals from a scene they won't use it. You do enough damage, and people are less likely to aim for common outlets. On the private scenes, you need to rat their staff systems, and break them from within. Reverse engineering their software is meaningless. Neither anti-cheat, or developers care. It's a all a business, but if you want to play with a high morality you have to be willing to do some cruel things to make a difference.
I think the only solution is basically the same as it is for viruses, it's a constant cat and mouse game, a never ending battle, either you have to constantly be looking for any new hacks and then patching the holes that let them work, or banning people who even slightly look funny, and then having some kind of appeal process, either way costs money, takes considerable manpower, the thing is though, in this day and age, with gaming bigger than it's ever been, if you don't do at least one, if not both of those things, you can't get rid of cheaters, I think that's why so many multi-player fps games die when they reach a certain player population, there's like, a threshold before there are so many cheaters that people start to quit.
@@AKATenn what a lot of developers have done in the past is install logic gates that if tripped would get people banned. doing the impossible, doing things normal players weren't able to, and banning those types. No better anti-cheat than that.
Discrediting businesses that provides cheats accomplishes nothing. Nowadays, with online only businesses, rebranding and paying for fake reviews and customers is very easy, and something that happens often.
@@WarAuthority but you need someone in the loop to program new things that people figure out how to do that haven't been programmed in yet.
@@Dennis19901 Yea, sure but if the risk of having your system get bricked. It doesn't matter how much you change your name/business.
Nakita takes a cut from These Cheat Developers on eft cheat sales.?
Video should be called howto cheat in tarkov
at the end you thank cheat developers and ask them to not stop making cheats... are you a Brick?
We will be watching you with great interest.
youre not some L337 hacker bro you re a script kid with a low color credit card. gg cheater
We need more of this… The tarkov community needs to come together and expose everything every single bug, every single glitch, every single exploit every single hack cheat and RMT. Even if it’s been said before and even if BSG knows about it already, there should be multiple lists from hundreds of people of what’s wrong with everything.
Would be nice if tho if they didnt spread misinformation like this guy... He has no idea how internal and external cheats work... Yet continues to explain them wrong... lmao
@@kidsinafrica3080 External hacks for PC games operate by interacting with the game from outside its process. Here’s a simplified breakdown of how they work:
Separate Execution: External cheats run as separate executable files (.exe) from the game itself. They don’t inject code directly into the game’s process like internal cheats do1.
Memory Manipulation: These hacks use functions like ReadProcessMemory and WriteProcessMemory to read and modify the game’s memory. This allows them to change game variables, such as player health, ammo, or position1.
Data Extraction: External cheats can extract data from the game, such as player coordinates or enemy positions, by reading the game’s memory. This data can then be used to provide advantages like wallhacks (seeing through walls) or aimbots (automatically aiming at enemies)2.
User Interface: Many external hacks come with a user interface that allows players to toggle features on and off, adjust settings, and monitor the hack’s status.
Detection and Risks: While external hacks are generally easier to develop and use, they can be detected by anti-cheat systems like VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat). These systems scan for known cheat signatures and unusual game behavior
Internal hacks for PC games work by injecting code directly into the game’s process, allowing for more seamless and powerful modifications. Here’s a breakdown of how they operate:
DLL Injection: Internal hacks typically involve injecting a Dynamic Link Library (DLL) into the game’s process. This DLL contains the code that will modify the game’s behavior1.
Hooking Functions: Once the DLL is injected, the hack can hook into the game’s functions. This means it can intercept and alter function calls, such as those for rendering graphics or handling player input1.
Direct Memory Access: Internal hacks have direct access to the game’s memory. This allows them to read and write game variables more efficiently than external hacks. For example, they can modify player health, ammo, or position instantly1.
Custom Code Execution: By injecting their own code, internal hacks can execute custom logic within the game’s process. This can include features like aimbots, wallhacks, or speed hacks1.
Anti-Cheat Evasion: Internal hacks often use advanced techniques to evade detection by anti-cheat systems. This can include obfuscating code, using kernel-level drivers, or employing sophisticated hooking methods
So far he wasn’t wrong about anything he said……
@@kidsinafrica3080I wonder what you think is incorrect about it lmao
@@HiimZapp I guess you didnt watch the video lol
@@kidsinafrica3080 I did, please inform me though.
@BSG: ADD NEON GLOW to CHEATERS :D
In the early days, CS had this at one point, if you used an aimbot, your character would glow neon blue spikes.
Why I will never play this game.
Sounds like Veritas lol
I thought it was at first 😂
Continue your work I appreciate this!
Kinda sounds like tarkov cheat's advert...
AI generated video to click bait users… entire video was generated guy, there’s no teams his referring to…
Isnt that what the developer should do? Tarkov is dead.
Beat a dead horse some more. Everyone knows this, they don’t care. Play or don’t, everyone knows the issues the devs couldn’t care less it’s more money for them.
I didn't know it was this bad I was thinking of buying the game now i won't soooo
@@sigdrifahildr2624 EVERY online fps is like this, people who think otherwise are absolutely delusional.
We don't agree that BSG "doesn't care", their contract with BattlEye is actually very limited and BattlEye takes advantage of low to middle class game studio's to force them into a unfavorable contract.
We hope that BSG will fight this contract legally and jump into combined contracts with other AC Companies like EAC.
BSG also removed the bundle option from the accounts a year ago, still a little late, but they do care.
As for Anti-Cheat companies, they also DO care about battling cheaters, saying otherwise is straight up ignorant.
They don't profit off cheaters, they profit off game companies wanting to combat it.
Spoken like someone who didn't even watch the video.
Everytime one of those guys gets banned they have to purchase a new account. BSG has made bank off those cheaters@TarkovInfo
Basically this video is useless .. and i wasted my time
kekw il like a promoting video. Look it work like this / you can do this / and this / But bsg cant do nothing LOL
Wll played. great job
I normally hate Videos with AI voices, but this one is actually very good.
Underrated video
this video is bascially for the average person playing tarkov or the not your everyday player.. for the rest of us this is well esetablished and known
Maybe y'r like him too. Ancien who "become" white hat ? lol that game is cringe atm ....
im surprised that bsg and be stop working with you guys...
atleast eac do that right
I’m not
Wast of time this was
Sorry I completely disagree with your final words. The logic of defending illegal activities because others do it anyway is just complete nonsense.
I was hoping you would atleast prove one thing your saying in this video... You literally just yapped for 26 mins and proved 0... I mean cool video and all but your going ro struggle to grow an audience just yappen and proving nothing man. I just watched 26 mins of trust me bros and wild claims with 0 proof.
This is at least A.I. voiced - the script is probably A.I. generated. Bunch of bs
loool sounds like a butt hurt cheater
It's not entirely bs, a lot of the information is factual with how cheating works within unity. Externally as well.
However the point of this video is pointless. Ultimately it's BSG's fault for not dealing with the cheating issues. There are ways to combat this, but BSG does very little.
idk how you got through more than 2 minutes of AI generated content
@@abonynge you've never messed around ttS? it's been around for decades. We just have better audio outputs now than before. having a script and having a vocalist ai read out isn't something new just improved.
Where do i buy cheats.
Getting banned for exploiting in a game that's in beta is wild. We are supposed to be testing the game but also at the same time, don't test the nono parts. Be honest. They are no longer treating the game as a beta, it's been treated as live service since EOD.
I'm more concerned about how bugs like the crouch invisible players bug that got patched last wipe got past ETS servers. Where they're supposed to fix that sort of stuff. That tells me more about BSG then the cheats.
@@hopedream11 Bugs also just get re-implemented because of either spaghetti code or they dont know how to use a master build properly
Found the crotch sniffer
It’s fun
This video was botted
Crazy stuff
The solution is to play offline against bots. Sufficiently advanced bots are much MUCH more rewarding to hunt than the losers you'll find playing trash like Tarkov.
There is no enjoyment in killing things that didn't put time and effort looting, questing, and bringing in expensive gear. SPT or PVE can never give you the same satisfaction. it is only good for larping marines.
Nope, that's not it. Fighting bots is boring as hell.
@@tzav Okay, so you don't care about succeeding and improving in order to feel a sense of accomplishment, you simply need to destroy someone elses work. You can't enjoy a game UNLESS you are making the game unenjoyable for others.
I guess we found the cheaters right here.
@@WOWMelted Fighting garbage bots is boring as hell. Fighting competent bots that can work together and perform maneuvers that will overwhelm you and make you really struggle to survive is a perfectly rewarding experience. Unless you're the same kinda sad loser as @tzav, and you just can't get off without trolling newbies.
@@operator8014literally the same argument cheaters use.. "im not bad I just like seeing the game and seeing the good loot", people like you should play spt and leave the main game alone
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well this explains stank rat running on broken legs until the cheater died
0iq moment
it was a know glitch your intellect is scarily low
the fact the biggest video on eft was goats and his main account got banned but not the account he cheated on.... cant spill some info but certain cheat devs have actual connects to the real devs. i cheated for 2 weeks and raged hack on scavs and bosses and the amount of people that would run me down was insane. but i had the better cheats, and have only rage hacked on a 3 stack a 2 stack a a solo with a stupid high KD. cheating in games is as easy as putting something in the microwave if not easier. and there is no duping lmfao
There is duping tho...
atleast the red ledx thing was real "dupe"
as with cheats you could pick quest items without having that quest, you could go in over and over again to get em, then sell to therapist.
But how else do you explain the insane rep and insane stacks of things for sale from same people? The dupe is real...
@@kidsinafrica3080 whatever you say bud, vacuum cheats are cheaper than ESP and its not hard to hold onto items and sell as a stack or bundle. you act like you cant buy and resell on the flea. if youve cheated then youd know there is no duping cheat.
@@EnvyKoi Vacuum cheats are 1. Patched and 2. Were sold at an additional 50$ above the normal cheat package for the 2 cheats that obtained the method, one of which required you to have a lifetime subscription which costed 300$.
The duping cheat the other person responding to you about was 100% a thing, and only worked with quest items, this was patched by BSG the same day it got attention, not the method but the ability to sell the red LEDX
As to the duping exploit, it 100% works, you can go into any raid right now alone and do what we explained in the video, preferably a bigger sized map.
Believing otherwise is 100% ignorance.
@@TarkovInfo after testing im absolutely shocked, this wasnt a thing in the past so CLEARLY it blew over my head. idk when this became a thing but when i cheated it wasnt, and most of the huge stack of rare items on flea was from vacuum. its not $50 though and still isnt fully patched, but after looking into it, its fairly detectable thus thinking its been patched out. great video btw
seek help. you need to talk to someone.
the problem is cheaters don't get banned enough but ppl like me who have just play the game and never cheat get banned for no reasons and i still don't know why and my friends either
This is a complete ai video… no points are being made at all just rambling about random cheating topics
All their info is still 100% correct…
get rid of pvp... thats what arena is for... invest in pve... which is what shouldve happened from the start of the game.
They should have just hired the SPT devs to make the PVE.... Its way better than tarkovs PVE... And it does not cost you anything more than the base game...
How can I report this comment?
How can you make yourself seem like professional yet you yap nonsense...
You want to clear misinformation yet you spread misinformation lmao...
Like some info is correct.. like how raid0 works etc.. but the info about cheats is mostly just wrong....
It’s ai script
Please explain what the misinformation is in the video, aside from our mistake with the data array within RAID 0 which we corrected in the description and within the video?
if you gonna blame someone for misinformation at least come with a claim? your comment is pointless negative feedback that doesnt even include the feedback.
This video is BS
Arena is better.
Anyone know a cheat easy to use? Pve beginner xD wanna know ai paths
AI generated garbage, with zero proof, zero real gameplay and no real substance even in such a long video.
😂 26 mins of trust me bro's with 0 proof. Anyone could just get a AI voice to claim doing something for 26 mins and just play some pointless footage in the background. Lol very lazy for someone who SUPPOSEDLY did soooo much cheater battling. Funny he didn't even have any footage at all of anything to show.
Everything said in this vid is BS
😂 facts
Like fr bro thinks cheat having a loader makes it internal... like tf?
@@kidsinafrica3080 Definitely not, but that's also not what was said in the video, we do know, that external cheats also can have features that READ the memory, they can also have loaders, as to why it said: "not limited to"
However, for simplicity of the video, we decided to split the two for the general joe to understand.
As for the your comment that "having a loader makes it internal", it was never said like that, we said that most internals WILL have a loader, because MOST cheats will not give you the plain dll and ask you to inject it yourself nor to find a vulnerable driver to help inject it 'safely'.
We explained in the video what differentiates internals and externals, without going to the full extend and details
All information said in the video is factual and is all the average joe needs to know to not fall into the trap of easy misinformation.
@@TarkovInfo fak em. half of the idiot comments doesnt even watch the video like the guy on the top almost complained about you didnt meantion the spoof card but you literally had a full section about it. i understand where you coming from and why you dont want to expose who you are or who you working for , i have never cheated in a online gamee EVER. i love to use mods in single player game tho but that is for me and doesnt affect anyone else beside my own game journey! but i have been a criminal have done time a bit of time actually and i know what people do for money now days and back in the day.. its not worth the risk to provide random ppl with "facts" when the facts is clear.
Проблема в том, что по заявлению буянова, за годы разработки игры он научился, по его утверждению, не воспринимать критику в свой адрес и в адрес игры. Ваше мнение ему безразлично.
I honestly don't mind skill farming bots.
Especially since some skills must be leveled in the DUMBEST way ever (looking at you, vitality.)
Bumped into a guy that was running in circles, spamming reloads and voicelines, in arena and I was more impressed about the tech behind it more than anything.
And from a pragmatical standpoint, it's the best way to respect your (limited) time on earth, the fact that, even *with* these guys added in, over the course of the last wipes, barely half the community got to max strength / endurance is BAFFLING.
At the very least, arena gives an incentive to farm skills legitimately so it's a step in the good direction, but I truly believe "soft" hacking (ie, hacking that will not impact the gameplay of other players by giving you an unfair advantage for aiming / firing / seeing your opponent) is mostly born out of bad game design.
I just play pve, it's a lot funner.