720 cold start - Q & A
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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Cold start ?
Here in Australia I jumped I'm my fire truck (every farm has a fire truck)
It was parked in the sun on a 46C* and we got a call
Started it up and the engine was already nearly at operating temp
Inside the cab was so hot we drove the first 2km to the fire with our feet jammed in the doors to keep them open
unqualified question : do you guys actually have something like winter?
serious question though, im from bavaria, germany, hard to imagine for me
Yea but its all backwards to you guys
So summer is our dry barren months
Everything is dead and there's nothing growing temps vary from 20 to 40*c during the day and 5 to 30*c at night
Temps go as high as 47 but probably only once every few yrs
Then winter is wet and that's when we grow our crops everything is green from roughly April to October
Temps are 5 to 20 daytime and 0 to 10 nightie
It's very rare to go below freezing
Maybe 2 nights a year
It does mean our "holiday season" when the farm is quite is the warm summer months
If you look up Esperance west Australia you will find my local town and the beachs around it
@@fowletm1992 Thanks for the infos man! Very interesting and strange to imagine for me. Cheers!
There aint nothing better than watching just recently released video from your channel and travelling to a winter cottage.
Glow plugs when cold, triple heat them, I.e. turn ignition on, wait for glow plug light to go out, immediately turn off and on again, wait for glow plug light to go out, then repeat again, soon as light goes out - no delay try to start straight away. Key is getting the cylinder hot so it starts.
A retired diesel engineer from the armed forces told me that once you have your diesel started for 5-10 mins, the best is to put them under a light load until it is warmed up. Letting it run for 30+mins does not make sense
Same advice for a gasoline engine. Read your owners manual on anything newer than about 1960. Start them, run till it is idling smoothly and drive moderately until up to operating temperature. Obviously if you are hooked to a load or have to immediately plow snow or mud or go up a steep hill you need a bit of idle warm-up. When the windows are frosted or iced that needs removal. Various ways to do that but the hardest on the engine is to run it till the heater/defroster removes the ice.
You sure do a good job of anticipating questions and henceforth answering them, Mike!
Thanks! I just think of questions that I would ask 🙂
I remember as a kid when my sister lived in Edmonton....., so you'd go visit her for what ever reason. the most boring part of that trip was the moment you entered the "no radio zone" you push the seek button on the radio and she'd just keep going round, an round, and round...,this of course was Looooooooooooong before apple iPhones were ever a thing LOL
Or satellite radio!!!
I watch your videos and I was wondering when I might get to chime in, so here goes!
The next time you want to start a cold Honda generator you will need a tarp like the kind you can buy anywhere at a tractor supply store, say a blue one. Take the generator over to a vehicle, say your truck, or it could be a car. Set the generator about 2 feet from the exhaust. Pull the tarp over the side of the truck box and tuck the tarp around the truck exhaust making sure it does not come into contact with that hot exhaust.
Then wrap the tarp around the generator creating a tunnel of hot exhaust blowing into that generator. Move the tarp around so as not to melt the tarp to the truck exhaust or any of the plastic that covers the generator.
Let your truck or vehicle idle inside that tarp for about 20 minutes to a half hour. That generator or snowblower or whatever will start up like it’s summertime.
Make sure you always treat your fuel with sea foam and use premium fuel. I treat mine 1 ounce to the gallon. You could also use this same technique on that Tractor if your tarp was big enough.😀
I was the owner of a landscape, lawn care, snow plowing and snow removal business. This trick worked for me when the temp was 30 below and the wind chill factor was 50 below.All of my equipment stayed exposed to the elements, only being they were covered with a tarp to keep the snow off of them. I used all Honda equipment.
Thanks, take care and stay safe😀
Ohhhhhhh, I know the feeling when you start a cold diesel engine! CELEBRATION!!!!!!
How flat and straight the roads are over there never cease to amaze me!
South Sask Farmer has a short loop in one of their remotes that when it's cold, once you start the tractor turn on that remote and it circulates the hydraulic fluid.
We have an older air cooled tractor, which uses hydraulic fluid for heating. So it has an adjustable valve on the pump, and if you close it to some extent it helps the oil warm up quicker by restricting flow. Point I'm trying to make is that it'll build up more heat if there's some restriction in the loop 🤔
My grandfather always carried a small crecent wrench like that it's amazing how useful they can be
MAN engines are basically from their truck/semi line of engines adapted to tractors and other machines. It is the reason they have lower top RPM as they are designed for max torque and HP under 2000 RPM, but they last a long time.
I worked with a road milling machine that had two MAN 600 HP engines in tandem and the whistle of turbines was sweeeet.
The loneliest road I ever rode on was From Medicine Hat to Havre MT. Even the Yukon and Alaska didn’t seem any less populated.
Cold weather and starting equipment can be a real problem. Nice job rolling that bag up! You take care.
The first code 1D.1.0C is for the preheater, that would have help a lot, call your dealer is on warranty.
Check out Fast Ag's bag extractor with it's roller it seems to save a ton of time rerolling the bags
Agree. He has a blue colored bag extractor that basically is a one man job to load a truck.
Seems to work pretty good also. I like the fact the he put a flexible spout on it also.
I think Tony's is a Neralta brand bag extracter, seems to have a lot of moving parts though, compared to Mike's, just my opinion 🤔
Good morning Mike.. Brr.. Cold.. Thank you for the ride along ❤️ shares my lunch time orange with viewers.. Adios 😊
either works very well for cold starts
Take a battery charger with you and run it on the generator and warm up the battery while you warm the tractor.
Our tractor has an integrated battery charger which takes care that the battery is fully charged before every start after being heated with electricity. Starter kicks on like a 🐎
They say you're insane if you talk to yourself and answer yourself, but we will just say MIKE is the Master. hehehe..
Should have pointed the exhaust from the generator under the tractor when you left, doubt it would have done much but couldn't hurt.
Make sure you have the lever on the gas to on. I have the same generator and it will quite in about 1 or 2 minutes.
Great 👍. So many things I'm not used to. Thanks again Mike and God Bless
Im from Spain and i love when you said adiós amigos ♥️
It is cheaper to use a couple of liters of petrol to heat the tractor, than to start it cold with all that entails in the form of extra wear and tear on both the engine and the other components.
Man....that's looks cold!! Some operation to start the fendt!
that bag sure did a lot bigger compared to when it was new out the box, farmers really can grow everything
You have produced some of the best videos on winter time grain bag unloading and handling.
I have a question, why not just throw some diesel fuel on the empty bag and burn it on location instead of handling them so much.
i think Mike said they get money when they recycle plus just burning all that plastic would be a waste and not to mention the toxic pollution to pristine air up there
Hi Mike. I genererly figure min 3-4 hrs plugged in when it's that cold. Thanks for the vid.
Got two cresent wrenches smaller than that, although we call them shifters, as in shifting spanner.
we call them shifters or adjustables
YEP i got one for my model making goes down to zero and out to 6mm 100 mm in lengh best 4 dollers worth i bought.
excellent explanations Mike, thank you
Wondering why they don’t have small battery chargers built in along with a electric battery blanket. The tractor has Ac power already. Not difficult to tap off that and power a few more devices and help that start in the cold
We do have a electric battery blanket installed actually
We have a small integrated after market battery charger on our tractor. It helps A LOT.
Thanks Mike!
Have you ever tarped your equipment when it’s out in the vast wide open. It would help a lot I’m sure.
I understand the purpose of using bags when they first came out but, I am a old farmer.
Everybody should have to work on a farm for a couple years just to get a little idea of the work involved.
It’s too cold for the Machinery Mike, adiós amigo ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Great video Mike
Synthetic 5W40? What does Fendt/dealer put in? If it has 15W40 in it that's a ton of extra work for the starter. On our trucks 5W40 gives us 75 more RPM during starting below - 18C. Helps!
It's not a Mike's videos if you don't hear "gods bye" 15 times in 20 minutes. Lol
Should have put the generator under the engine of the tractor, heat from the exhaust would at least warm the engine oil a little.
I really really like your content. I would like to see the bag being baled also LOL
I ment rolled up or whatever lol
I hate generators that you have to pull a string to start. I found a Honda competitive generator that is 3500 W, much quiet than Honda, half of the Honda price and it has a ... starter, so you just push a button to start. Works like a champ anytime I started. We use it for camping and hunting trips
Yeah he's pretty good at that
Hey mike you need a Valtra from Finland insted of German summer junk. Valtra too is in the Agco group. Valtra is made in a country who is cold or colder than Canada. :)
Maybe that's true ✅ But they also have to be plugged in or use a Webasto in the winter and their oil is just as thick in the cold⛄.
Valtra are very good tractors but I think when it is that cold every brand of tractor has problems starting
Valtra uses 10-40W oil. I have an old Valmet that was the name of the Valtra before (It`s 1980 but have only 2100 hours ) that has a coldstart button on the dieselpump and thermostart that one I started -35 C without block heater. By the way I live in Norway.
Check the air filter as mind a foam piece of rubbish fell to pieces and it’s only used occasionally
Honestly, I'm a little surprised that tractor was that difficult to start. According to Google, -25C is -13F, which isn't awfully cold in the scheme of things. We got down to about that here a couple of weeks ago, and granted, the highs were up around 10F (-12C), but the tractors fired up just fine so long as the block heaters were plugged in. One or two cranks and they'd fire on all cylinders right away. Definitely glad we don't deal with it on a regular basis, though. That was an anomaly down here.
The Difference between -12°C and -25°C is night and day, but i agree, it starts surprisingly bad. I own the great-grandfather of this tractor, a 1969 Fendt Farmer 3S, it starts at -20°C after glowing, without preheating or things like that (preheaters not very common in germany).
Saskatchewan looks a lot like the texas panhandle, flat with no trees!
Mike's #DDE all day everyday...love ya
My deutz fahr is a great starter even though it doesn't get as cold as -25
We run espar heaters on our tractors, no generator required.
He normally has a Webasto on that tractor. They have been the North American standard since Northern oil exploration days.
Mike a question for your next video. Whats your thoughts on the new electric vehicle craze? Think there will ever be electric tractors and combines
I never have that problem with my 700s, I can start them in minis 20 with out plugging them in.
Not a fan of these newer units having a different style cord... like let’s re invent the wheel again
Not to nitpick but assuming you mean the three pins in a triangle they aren't really new as they've been around since the 60s. And they've almost been standard for a couple of decades here in Europe..
@@frankeinfish The big question is - Why would General Motors go to a different than USA standard plug-in? We understand European electrical differences and expect to need an adaptor or even a transformer.
@@wssides it might be that they want to use the same parts on all vehicles across the world and as our plug is standard in a much larger part of the world that's the one they went with.. Maybe?
I seriously doubt it has anything to do with you having a lower voltage, it's just a plug.
At -25c, I reckon anything would be rough to start being left out all night. 🥶🥶
Bonus footage if you hang out beyond the first good bye!
Them honda EU generators are nice.
Next time using the generator points exhaust At the oil pan
Hi Mike, It may have already been answered, but wouldn't a small amount of ether spray into the air inlet make the diesel air mixture ignite much more easily saving batteries and starter ?
So Canadian saying bye 3-4 times lol
My son inlaw has 8 fendts dam good tractor but a bear to start when cold.
For a new tractor Mitchell why you buy not a versatile tractor
Mike, it`s Webasto, not Webasco :)
Hahah 🤣🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️
Mike can you also show how you use the front loader?
Hey Mike. Why don't you put winter oils and blankets on your tractor to winterize it? Not worth the cost?
I think i have put on more miles watching this channel. 🤪
my crescent gets that small when its - 25c
Great video Mike. I have a question how much does an empty grain bag weigh?
Nice video 👌
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Ouch! Way to cold 🥶
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Bit like me in the morning
Morning
Have you ever tried a Valtra?
Looks like Calix cable. European stuff.
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I am of course being that smartass but it´s just not normal that you have relatively many problems with the Webasto´s . We have more problems with ADBLUE . Maybe not enough KW ?
normally these things makes only problems when they don´t run long enough or not under full power. But it could be also battery related like some of the starting problems, what is in there? AGM?
@@MrEvilisk You have a point there but still , as the tractor has started it should run its full cycle anyway if the outside temperature sensor is working of course. As precaution we advise our clients to start the Webasto or Eberspacher during " hot " season . Once a month is doing it . For the battery , they come as you order . Flooded or AGM
@@beluxauto5968 Thats right, these devices are a bit to sensitive, that changed over last 10 years a lot. I had a old Webasto in one car, used it only in winter, never touched in summer, never hand any problems. In my current car is an Eberspächer additional heater (no manual activation, starts temperature related), that thing is more or less defect to whole time. Repaired it 3 time and gave up, seems to be systematic with these things.
Only use premium fuel in small engines.
How are you liking the Duramax (Chevy) so far?
7:24 Yeeeeeeeahhhhh
Those generators are epic. Just not a fan of cold starting
maybe german technique doesn't like such cold ;-) greets from Germany
which type of coolant used in fendt?
Fendt MAN engines doesn't use a grid heater instead of plugs? Some engines are cold blooded, next engine doesn't have an issue at same temps... however they're setup.
only the big models have man engine 9 and 10 series
and the old favorits 8 and 9 series
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Why wasn't that bag rolled by the grain extractor?
Yes it rolls the bag onto a drum, but to do another bad you have to remove the first bag, 2 bags don’t fit on extractor, roll it up to unroll it when done is annoying & engineered mistake to me. The option is available but then doubles or close to it for the extractor, high dollar option that many don’t want to pay for it.
@@anstromwally6708 i though after you rolled the bag you just slide it out rolled and start with a new bag. heh, who designed this thing.
Keep starting fluid in cab little bit goes long way
Do not want to use starting fluid in a new one like that...
spray in when turning over that way it dont knock starter creates more problems.
@Mike Mitchell Any plans on getting Fendt to drop off an 1167 to demo?
Apparently it's in the pipe line for spring, so fingers crossed 🤞
@@darrenkayes7911 Awesome. Thanks for the reply.
Need a ALP ginerator runs only on LP starts every time runs 50 hours on a standard bottle but only 1000w.😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
What definition is kinda cold :-) ? How cold ?
You Need to buy a valtra you have no problems with starting wen it is cold 😉I promaise
and that right there is why in this hp range I prefer the massey incarnation with the Sisu engine.
Either Mike
You need to wash your pickup Mike
Can you use ether on the Fendt?
In germany i jump on my tractor and it running
It's not Fendts special cord, it's a European cord.
at 9-00 PERKINS engine best there is used all over the world my caravanette had one lorry had one and the tractor went for years body rotted PERKINS still running took it down scrape yard bloke had the engine out before we left he wanted that for 40 ft boat RAY UK ENGLAND.
Hey Mike, have You had any problem with DEF systems due to cold weather?
YES. Every farmer pretty much thinks there garbage
In the middle of YUK TUK........🤣🤣🤣🤣