+MichaelHansenFUN no he didn't. this was before he found his vocal style. He wanted to be like Sean Harris, but he's a tough singer to copy to be fair.
Jason, hey guess what I just heard for the first time right here on UA-cam? The No Life Til Leather & Megaforce demos. Can't believe that took me so long to bother. They're all with Mustaine and they sound great! It's almost like 80s punk with a metal edge. No doubt James improved his yelling style a lot by the time Kill 'Em All came out-his singing on Metal Militia is quite terrible on the demos, imo, but the rest is really cool, and in some cases I prefer the old sound in a weird way. I like rough garage rock, though. I'm kind of amazed how great some of it sounds.
It’s pretty cool that they not only ended up re-recording this for an album but also still play it live to this day. It’s really rare for a band to still play their first recorded song.
My dad was friends with Lloyd Grant in College in Fullerton California then they lost connections after college, my dad didnt believe that Lloyd played with Metallica in a couple of their first songs but my dad saw Lloyd in one of the tours on youtube so thats pretty cool. hopefully I get to meet Lloyd one day he seems really cool.
@@ktw70 This album was pressed three times due to spelling mistakes on the label and track changes. James hated this recording and the version they put on their No Life Til Leather demo was the version they originally recorded for pressings 2 and, unintentionally, 3 of this record. Because of 3 pressings with 2 versions in less than a year, most people see the "Fixed" versions if they even know the album exists due to not even looking at the sleeve because the garbage price turns them away but... it's on Discogs for people to look at
I used to have this. I love how they misspelled Metallica as Mettallica on the album, lol. If I remember, Cirith Ungol was on this album, too... nostalgia
Know what would be awesome? If the band was playing live, and out of nowhere Lloyd Grant jumped onstage and played the solo as a guest appearance. That would be fucking cool. Anyone else think so?
@@Malum09 he had already joined and was the guitarist on this but then they put Llyod grants pre recorded stuff on top of it while Dave was part of the band. It didn't sit too well with him obviously
So, Dave Mustaine claims he wrote this solo, and now after you know, 20 something years I learn this Lloyd guy was the first legit lead guitarist of Metallica. That is insane
I love Megadeth, but this track really proves how weepy can Dave Mustaine be: He complained a lot of times about Kirk Hammett playing his solos note by note in Kill 'em all. If you hear this version and No life 'till leather, you can hear hints of Lloyd Grant original solo (the second solo at 1:49 almost note by note).
@@Ae0liann He's correct. The first bars of the second solo IS all Lloyd Grant, and Kirk incorporated that into his own rendition. Dave didn't even play on this recording, so he has no reason to whine about it at all.
Bro Dave mustaine wasn't even in the band around that time. The lineup for this recording was: - Lloyd Grant (Lead Guitar) - James Hetfield (Rythm Guitar) - Lars Ulrich (Drums)
This so so cool, sounds like a typical raw school band without much tech or production values. Lloyd's guitar solo is amazing. I closed my eyes and thought I was listening to a guitar virtuoso. And that bomb going off at the end, made me chuckle. All great things have a beginning and this is what led to pure enjoyment for millions in the years to follow. Thanks for posting.
confusion: Metal Massacre - 1982 [edit] First Pressing "Hit the Lights" - Metallica (Listed as "Mettallica") - 4:25 Second Pressing Released in 1984. "Hit the Lights" (version 2) - Metallica - 4:12 The version of Metallica's "Hit the Lights" is a new recording as James Hetfield was unhappy with the original version. The second pressing features Dave Mustaine on lead guitar instead of Lloyd Grant.
also how he claims he was "the only guitarist in Metallica" (from the "Get Thrashed: The History of Thrash" documentary) and how he influenced James' playing so much....yet here is James playing this before he ever met Dave.
Dave meant he was the only guitar player that can actually play, and influenced James stage presence. That's very apparent if you watch the early recordings of them playing.
For a short time, James wasn't sure about his role. He wasn't sure if he wanted to just sing or to just play guitar. He kept veering back and forth in those early times. O guess there was a brief period where James stopped playing guitar and just sang, leaving Dave as the only guitarist. They even hired another guitarist named Brad Parker for a single show. It took time for him to decide what he wanted, but James ultimately chose to both sing and play.
Its really interesting listening to a band's really early work. On this version I can hear their NWOBHM influences a bit more clearly as it's at a slower tempo to the one on KEA. Still sounds really cool.
The lineup for this song is: Lars Ulrich- Drums James Hetfield- Rhythm, Lead, Bass and Vocals Lloyd Grant- Solo Ron McGovney was in the band at this point, but couldn't attend the session, so James played the bass. The band had no lead guitarist at this time, because Hugh Tanner had just left and they had not yet recruited Dave Mustaine. James played both rhythm and lead on their 4-track demos, but was not confident in his ability to solo for a "professional" recording, hence Lloyd Grant filling in for this solo. The second pressing of _Metal Massacre_ had a re-recorded version of this track, with Dave and Ron on it. That's the version most people have heard, as this first pressing was limited to a few hundred copies.
Priceless document; back when Black Sabbath had split into two different bands (Ozzy / BS+DIO), Judas Priest was beginning to make it big in America, and Maiden was still touring with Di'Anno, Metallica recorded their first demo with "garage-garbage" budget
+JJMM33 If you think this shit is fast, there is something seriously wrong with you. Dave showed Lars and James what thrashing was all about, James didn't even play guitar until before 'No Life Till Leather', by which time Dave had already changed the band's sound significantly with his song-writing and guitar playing.
Sainandan Ramakrishnan he’s mom bought him a guitar during highschool and he use to play covers with bands. So everything you said was a lie. He said so himself in his guitar center video.
Of course that this is a Thrash song, is Heavy, is Fast, is Agressive,, all Thrash metal atributes there here, the onli change to the Kill version is James vocal's, make the song better of course, but, yeah, i think that this version is Thrash
I dont get why some of you guys are comparing kirk and dave to Lloyd, kirk and dave have over at least 100 songs in which they play in and all you've probably heard of Lloyd grant is this 1 minute and a half solo.....
Let me remember you that this was one of their first demos, and "Thrash" wasn't invented 'till Metallica and other bands started to play their songs faster on gigs. So their only influence was the Heavy Metal from Diamond, Sabbath, Judas, etc. Bands, as you know, haven't played their songs very fast .
@skiiddo Yep, this is absolutely accurate. Ron wasn't there. James on vocals, rhythm guitar, and bass. Lloyd plays the lead, and Lars bangs some cans together to make drum noises. ;)
It is mostly in the key of A. during the verses their in D then goes into E during "when we start to we never, want to quit" then back into A, mostly because of the chord progression. So still technically A. Then it goes into B for I think 6 or 8 measures during the end solo, then drops back to A for the last 2 measures. Oh, and the beginning fade in is in E, then F#. Yeah, he was much better for the 30th anniversary gig.
@ScooterAndOtis Everyone here has it wrong. James is on vocals, rhythm guitar and bass. Lars is on drums. Dave plays the two lead breaks at 1:11 and 1:50. Lloyd plays the final solo at 2:56. It's true, Metallica says so, Dave Mustaine has said so, and several biographers have said so. Originally there was no solo at 2:56. This version had already been recorded. Lars decided another solo was needed, but Mustaine wasn't around and the recording had to be taken to get mastered. Lars stopped by...
THRASH/DEATH METAL Underground ...as far as I can remember it always has been, stuff from RTL and even some stuff by Megadeth and (I think) Kreator have played on my local hard rock station - though it is mostly hard rock and edgy pop-punk
Hey OP, ignore these guys, I’m with you on Lloyd’s superiority he was an established session guy and I can hear the chops. With all due respect to Dave and Kirk, they had much more incubation time than Lloyd; imagine if he had stuck around until KEA or at least NLTL.
Too all that Claim Dave played on the first version NO NO NO its all official on their website this 1st version feat First Pressing Lineup James Hetfield - Guitar, Vocals, Bass Lars Ulrich - Drums Lloyd Grant - Lead Guitar yes i copied lineup from Metallicas website
Yea Dave joined after it the first one was released and played on the second version thought hey still kept some of Lloyds solo. No idea why people still get confused haha
Llyod Grant is excellent on playing guitar, this is an excellent guitar solo for being a demo right here. Lloyd definitely did his thing by showing that black guitarists are capable of playing heavy metal music as well.
Lloyd Grant is a black guy tall black Jamaican born who did the solo on a "Montgomery ward' amp. 2:55 they couldn't adjust the sound levels but I love it all the same,. Lloyd Grant you can see him in a metallica video on here "Metallica w/ Mustaine, Grant and McGovney - Hit the Lights (Live in Frisco, Dec. 10th, 2011) "
In the first pressing of metal massacre the name "metallica" was spelled as "mettallica", then in later pressings it was corrected as metallica. and lloyd grant had only played in the first pressing which had the name "mettallica" so if you don't know shit you should shut up
Lloyd Grant murdered Dave and Kirk on this solo.....man i wanted to hear what else he could do....which i could hear Llyod shred on Master of Puppets or One
Not even close. Dave Mustaine if he were getting his ass torn apart would be more apt. Killing is my business demo Mustaine vocals >>>> this shit. And James ended up being a much better vocalist than Dave Mustaine eventually. That's saying a lot about how horrible James' singing is here.
Lloyd was way better than Kirk or Dave. I like all three, but Lloyd has more to offer in this one solo as far as variety and statement. I would love to hear his approach to Sanitarium
Guys...let's set this straight once and for all. BOTH Dave and Lloyd Grant are playing on this one. Dave's doing the leads, Lloyd the solo. On the second pressing, instead, Dave plays both leads and solo. Check up the line-up on Metallica's official website: www.metallica.com/releases/compilations/4223/metal-massacre Lloyd "joined" the band (actually never joined it, except for one solo) after replying to an advertisement on Recycler magazine. But Lars and James did not think he was the right choice, so they did not take the advertisement away. Then Mustaine replied. He called the number, McGovney answered the phone and Dave said something like "I'm the best guitar player you'll ever hear". Mustaine got the job even before the audition started, while he was rehearsing, 'cause Lars and James were already impressed. So they recorded Hit the Lights with Mustaine on lead guitars, but then they thought they wanted another solo on the song and they kinda liked the way Grant soloed on the song during rehearsals (he probably rehearsed with Metallica only twice), so they popped in his house with the recorder and asked him to do a solo literally hours away from the deadline. The solo is featured on Metal Massacre's first release ONLY. James actually plays the bass parts on this, but Lars had already asked McGovney to join the band at this point and he rehearsed with the band already. My sources are: various Metallica biographies (especially Joel McIver's unauthorized biography), Metallica official website and..well personal knowledge that I can't recall where it comes from.
And then Mustaine came in and showed them how to thrash and all of a sudden they ended up with 7 demo-ready uber thrash metal songs in less than 4 months. Anybody who doubts the fact that Mustaine was unquestionably the most influential figure in the creation of Kill Em All, should just come here and listen to this lol. James wasn't quite sure what the hell he wanted to do at this point xD. Played bass, rhythm and sang with a Sean Harris rip-off vocal pattern.
+Antonio Ramon Concepcion Vidal Only a matter of time before an ignorant, insecure Metallica fanboy came running. LOL. I don't think you know Dave wrote every single note of the 4 most pivotal songs on that album, which also includes the best song ( The Mechanix, a.k.a The Four Horsemen ). I don't think you know Dave's song writing and guitar playing was what ACTUALLY started thrash within Metallica and made this metal massacre shit sound pop. I don't think you know Mustaine was the only guitarist for Metallica when he started off and that had a huge influence on James eventually playing thrash guitar as well. *Mustaine Co helped in 4 songs , co helped , just co helped* ---> He wrote every single note for those songs ( The hard part ). Hetfield wrote the lyrics ( The Easy part ). Do your research. *And the first Thrash metal song , the first Metallica song is " Hit the Ligths " without Mustaine* ---> Hit The Lights was not even thrash until Mustaine joined, so no, if you think the song you are listening to in the video is 'thrash' by any extent of imagination, something is seriously wrong with you.
Sainandan Ramakrishnan I'm not sure what you mean about Hit The Lights - it really didn't change much after Dave joined. The solos are different and the rhythms are tighter, but that's it - same vocal delivery from Hetfield, same everything else. You can hear the version with Dave on the No Life Till Leather demo.
@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Only person insecure here is you. Always trying to spout off about Mustaine on every Metallica video like you were one of his groupies lol.
+@@SpiralDream Metallica fanboys are a hilarious bunch, always ignorant in the face of contradictory facts. As if being lied to for 30+ years by Lars FailRich and Hetfield wasn't enough. LMAO.
You can tell James was really trying to imitate the vocals Sean Harris from Diamond Head
Jordan Milligan i think he had a throat infection
+Jordan Milligan Kinda sounds like Burke Shelley from Budgie as well.
+MichaelHansenFUN no he didn't. this was before he found his vocal style. He wanted to be like Sean Harris, but he's a tough singer to copy to be fair.
InvisibleYetVisible his voice sure changed
MichaelHansenFUN for the better
I doubt these guys will ever make it big...
Lol!
Xplosive59 well, you're 30 years late on that one
Elijah Kelley whoosh
**30 Years later** Jamz: I AM THE TABLE!
Lars: HE FOCKING LEFT THE BAND!
Kirk: Uuhhhhh......
Rob: AAAAAAARRRRGGGHGHHHHH!
@@perkele8341 stfu...... hahaha! Stop telling truths.
The line up for this version of "Hit the Lights";
-Lloyd Grant
-James Hetfield
-Lars Ulrich
Dave and Ron came after this.
VoraciousSouls95 Just Lloyd solos rest of the lead is Dave.
MushyTheCraft but dave was too drunk off his ass to record the song :D
Wing j the outro solo is lloyd
+Wing j Lloyd actually played all the solo in this song.
Raedo the last solo is overdubbed on the vocal track
Lineup:
James Hetfield: Rhythm Guitar/Bass/Vocals
Lars Ulrich: Drums
Lloyd Grant: Guitar Solos
Yeah...he joined after this recording. Otherwise, he would have played the fucking solo.
Atacama Humanoid Megadeth fanboys are always looking to start arguments they will never change
Jason, hey guess what I just heard for the first time right here on UA-cam? The No Life Til Leather & Megaforce demos. Can't believe that took me so long to bother. They're all with Mustaine and they sound great! It's almost like 80s punk with a metal edge. No doubt James improved his yelling style a lot by the time Kill 'Em All came out-his singing on Metal Militia is quite terrible on the demos, imo, but the rest is really cool, and in some cases I prefer the old sound in a weird way. I like rough garage rock, though. I'm kind of amazed how great some of it sounds.
Azazel in this record Mustaine wasn't in the band yet
Azazel Nope. He came in after the recording
It’s pretty cool that they not only ended up re-recording this for an album but also still play it live to this day.
It’s really rare for a band to still play their first recorded song.
It's on Kill Em All , you know that right?
@@boydudeifyYeah... But it was originally made as a demo song. That was his point.
It’s older than this too. James wrote it in another band (i think leather charm)
@jp-47471 ah yes of course,I.misread ...No Life Till Leather 82'
My dad was friends with Lloyd Grant in College in Fullerton California then they lost connections after college, my dad didnt believe that Lloyd played with Metallica in a couple of their first songs but my dad saw Lloyd in one of the tours on youtube so thats pretty cool. hopefully I get to meet Lloyd one day he seems really cool.
I'm always surprised when people don't believe that Lloyd played with Metallica. Was he not credited on this recording?
@@ktw70 This album was pressed three times due to spelling mistakes on the label and track changes. James hated this recording and the version they put on their No Life Til Leather demo was the version they originally recorded for pressings 2 and, unintentionally, 3 of this record. Because of 3 pressings with 2 versions in less than a year, most people see the "Fixed" versions if they even know the album exists due to not even looking at the sleeve because the garbage price turns them away but... it's on Discogs for people to look at
I have a friend who knows him and he's going to come jam in my buddies garage for his Halloween party. Look up Rottenween on facebutt.
LLOYD GRANT.... 2:58 to ETERNITY!!! True Metal Pioneer......
Wow, very Diamond Head, didn't really have their own sound yet, although you could hear 'something' was brewing
Well said
I used to have this. I love how they misspelled Metallica as Mettallica on the album, lol. If I remember, Cirith Ungol was on this album, too... nostalgia
Great album.
Goddamn I love me some Cirith Ungol
And CU later joked that their song was heavier and faster than Metallica's.
Definitely slower
Know what would be awesome? If the band was playing live, and out of nowhere Lloyd Grant jumped onstage and played the solo as a guest appearance. That would be fucking cool. Anyone else think so?
They did this actually with Dave and Ron as well lol
ua-cam.com/video/lQwHPI75jaY/v-deo.html
diddnt exactly this happen?
@@childrenoftheabzu Yes, it happened 2 years after this comment was posted. This comment is from 13 years ago, in case you didn't see.
bro predicted the future
Lloyd Grant was actually the only guy who knew how to play in this recording
well James and Lars weren't so experienced at time
*coughs* dave is doing most of the shredding and making songs at this time *cough*
Xxero Chronicles was Dave already with them? I thought he joined after this.
@@Malum09 he had already joined and was the guitarist on this but then they put Llyod grants pre recorded stuff on top of it while Dave was part of the band. It didn't sit too well with him obviously
@@nonnone7060 no, no, and absolutely no
So, Dave Mustaine claims he wrote this solo, and now after you know, 20 something years I learn this Lloyd guy was the first legit lead guitarist of Metallica. That is insane
I love Megadeth, but this track really proves how weepy can Dave Mustaine be: He complained a lot of times about Kirk Hammett playing his solos note by note in Kill 'em all. If you hear this version and No life 'till leather, you can hear hints of Lloyd Grant original solo (the second solo at 1:49 almost note by note).
Paco Cero bullshit
@@Ae0liann He's correct. The first bars of the second solo IS all Lloyd Grant, and Kirk incorporated that into his own rendition. Dave didn't even play on this recording, so he has no reason to whine about it at all.
breaking news: the guy who was kicked from the band for being a whiny aggressive douche just so happens to be a whiny aggressive douche
Bro Dave mustaine wasn't even in the band around that time. The lineup for this recording was:
- Lloyd Grant (Lead Guitar)
- James Hetfield (Rythm Guitar)
- Lars Ulrich (Drums)
He means Dave has complained about Kirk "copying" his solos, when he had also done the same by copying parts of Lloyd's solos when he joined the band.
This so so cool, sounds like a typical raw school band without much tech or production values. Lloyd's guitar solo is amazing. I closed my eyes and thought I was listening to a guitar virtuoso. And that bomb going off at the end, made me chuckle. All great things have a beginning and this is what led to pure enjoyment for millions in the years to follow. Thanks for posting.
Its Lloyd Grant, a Jamaican who according to Lars first answered the ad the latter had put out in a paper for a singer/guitarist :)
hit the lyyeeighhtss. yeah table squeak squeak
nwobhm version
james sounds hella different , wow this recording is what started it all for metallica..... simply amazing
confusion: Metal Massacre - 1982
[edit] First Pressing
"Hit the Lights" - Metallica (Listed as "Mettallica") - 4:25
Second Pressing
Released in 1984.
"Hit the Lights" (version 2) - Metallica - 4:12
The version of Metallica's "Hit the Lights" is a new recording as James Hetfield was unhappy with the original version. The second pressing features Dave Mustaine on lead guitar instead of Lloyd Grant.
Thank you for this. I've heard the Dave Mustaine recording, onward, but I've never heard this original version. Extremely cool.
Lloyd Grant did a solo that Dave Mustaine used as inspiration for his solo that Kirk Hammett used as inspiration for his solo.
also how he claims he was "the only guitarist in Metallica" (from the "Get Thrashed: The History of Thrash" documentary) and how he influenced James' playing so much....yet here is James playing this before he ever met Dave.
Dave meant he was the only guitar player that can actually play, and influenced James stage presence. That's very apparent if you watch the early recordings of them playing.
For a short time, James wasn't sure about his role. He wasn't sure if he wanted to just sing or to just play guitar. He kept veering back and forth in those early times. O guess there was a brief period where James stopped playing guitar and just sang, leaving Dave as the only guitarist. They even hired another guitarist named Brad Parker for a single show. It took time for him to decide what he wanted, but James ultimately chose to both sing and play.
man they really sold out after this one
LMAO
rip karpizzle
@@aaadddggg Yeah, money can buy any soul in this world.
Yeha cliff never really liked the idea about selling out
@Gator well yeah, if he was interei in it, then it wouldn't be selling out, would it?
You can really hear a Burke Shelly and Robert Plant quality in James' voice on this recording, freaking awesome.
Its really interesting listening to a band's really early work. On this version I can hear their NWOBHM influences a bit more clearly as it's at a slower tempo to the one on KEA. Still sounds really cool.
I met Lloyd Grant at Lewis's Bistro & Delicatessen in San Francisco back in the day. He was a really cool dude.
I hope these guys have some pretty good side jobs lined up...
If you watch the 30th anniversary performance where Lars tells the story of Lloyd Grant, he said he played all the solos
Ahhh yes. Lloyd Grant, Lars Ulrich, and Geddy Lee.
That's a great solo by Lloyd Grant! Reminds me of "Fast" Eddie Clarke in a lot of ways, great job from the early 'Tallica daze.
James kinda sounds like Robert Plant lol
the influence of the Glam Rock and Glam Metal
Hahaha he does sound like Robert Plant.
Dave Mustaine came in and showed them aggression
That's because he was imitating Sean Harris of Diamond Head, who was obviously heavily influenced by Robert Plant.
He's trying to sound like The Judas Priest singer... True story btw
is this hetfield on vocals ? what the fuck ?
he is?
There was not a Metalicca without Hetfield. It was Lars and him putting ads in the same classifieds at the same time.
first showoff of james' godlike riffs and breakdown..all starts from here ...unto SPIT OUT THE BOOOOOONE!! the real Metalgod \m/
Mind-blowing solo! I definitely like the original Loyds' solo more than Kirk's
Holy shit James can sing like this? Awesome!
He sang like only in demo tapes
he sound awful hahaha
Like dogshit? Yeah, its pretty cool
@@lookinthecorner2431 not saying he doesn't, he's just not very good at it
you mean, he "can't sing" like this, right?
I love finding obscure bands like this. wonder if these guys ever went anywhere? probably not
These idiots just fired their lead guitarist and their first bassist had left. They wont survive.
@@fz7091 Jeez. I hear their drummer sucks now too
Congrats, very original comment.
They might make it big. Who knows?
@@nathanmartin1850 Eh, never heard of em
Lloyd KILLED this song, and unknowingly created a template for all modern Metal soloing!
Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, Randy Roads: No shit
The lineup for this song is:
Lars Ulrich- Drums
James Hetfield- Rhythm, Lead, Bass and Vocals
Lloyd Grant- Solo
Ron McGovney was in the band at this point, but couldn't attend the session, so James played the bass. The band had no lead guitarist at this time, because Hugh Tanner had just left and they had not yet recruited Dave Mustaine. James played both rhythm and lead on their 4-track demos, but was not confident in his ability to solo for a "professional" recording, hence Lloyd Grant filling in for this solo.
The second pressing of _Metal Massacre_ had a re-recorded version of this track, with Dave and Ron on it. That's the version most people have heard, as this first pressing was limited to a few hundred copies.
Priceless document; back when Black Sabbath had split into two different bands (Ozzy / BS+DIO), Judas Priest was beginning to make it big in America, and Maiden was still touring with Di'Anno, Metallica recorded their first demo with "garage-garbage" budget
In the early 1980's there was no internet and I was travelling 25 miles for demo CD's like No life till power 😀
Good old times. Those bootleg CDs were special.
The band was formed in Oct 81, James was born in Aug 63, so he had to have been at least 18 or 19 here, not 17.
Thanks, man. I Don't remember where I saw that james played bass on one of the early versions of hit the lights...
Very true. Dave claimed that he "taught" them how to play fast. This song is proof that they were playing fast before they met him.
This isnt that fast tho... And Dave came in just after this recording and made The Mechanix with James which later they had to slow down...
this isn't fast
+JJMM33
If you think this shit is fast, there is something seriously wrong with you. Dave showed Lars and James what thrashing was all about, James didn't even play guitar until before 'No Life Till Leather', by which time Dave had already changed the band's sound significantly with his song-writing and guitar playing.
If you hear mechanix it isnt like the megadeth version. Lloyd grant was underrated
Sainandan Ramakrishnan he’s mom bought him a guitar during highschool and he use to play covers with bands. So everything you said was a lie. He said so himself in his guitar center video.
James left and slammed the door at the end of the song. I guess he was already fed up with Lars.
Lloyd is and was a great guitarist. Better at soloing than any of them at the time.
Pretty surprising, I only thought Grant was there for some lead playing. The guy has a good range.
Metallica making thrash before Mustaine come to the band, some guys dont understand this
José César Megadeth fanboys will get so mad over that comment but it's true
+Jason Clark hell yess
Of course that this is a Thrash song, is Heavy, is Fast, is Agressive,, all Thrash metal atributes there here, the onli change to the Kill version is James vocal's, make the song better of course, but, yeah, i think that this version is Thrash
José César it is thrash
Maybe so, but it sure wasn't any good.
I dont get why some of you guys are comparing kirk and dave to Lloyd, kirk and dave have over at least 100 songs in which they play in and all you've probably heard of Lloyd grant is this 1 minute and a half solo.....
Let me remember you that this was one of their first demos, and "Thrash" wasn't invented 'till Metallica and other bands started to play their songs faster on gigs.
So their only influence was the Heavy Metal from Diamond, Sabbath, Judas, etc. Bands, as you know, haven't played their songs very fast .
They were also influenced by Motörhead and punk. Which is why they played faster than the normal heavy metal at that time.
Venom already had "Witching Hour" by that time
@skiiddo Yep, this is absolutely accurate. Ron wasn't there. James on vocals, rhythm guitar, and bass. Lloyd plays the lead, and Lars bangs some cans together to make drum noises. ;)
I never heard Lloyd Grant play before...he sounds pretty good on this song.
I'm also reading "Enter Night" and looked for this song as a result - props to you for uploading this!
It is mostly in the key of A. during the verses their in D then goes into E during "when we start to we never, want to quit" then back into A, mostly because of the chord progression. So still technically A. Then it goes into B for I think 6 or 8 measures during the end solo, then drops back to A for the last 2 measures. Oh, and the beginning fade in is in E, then F#. Yeah, he was much better for the 30th anniversary gig.
@ScooterAndOtis Everyone here has it wrong. James is on vocals, rhythm guitar and bass. Lars is on drums. Dave plays the two lead breaks at 1:11 and 1:50. Lloyd plays the final solo at 2:56. It's true, Metallica says so, Dave Mustaine has said so, and several biographers have said so. Originally there was no solo at 2:56. This version had already been recorded. Lars decided another solo was needed, but Mustaine wasn't around and the recording had to be taken to get mastered. Lars stopped by...
Better than anything on the radio these days.
Eh, not really. Better than shit on rap stations, but not on rock/metal stations.
+Rahfu Yeah it really is better than anything out on the radio.
Rahfu the "music" on rap stations mostly deals with sex and drugs some music doesn't but its mainly that
Since when has Thrash ever been on the radio?
THRASH/DEATH METAL Underground ...as far as I can remember it always has been, stuff from RTL and even some stuff by Megadeth and (I think) Kreator have played on my local hard rock station - though it is mostly hard rock and edgy pop-punk
Thanks for that, I'm on a train from Sydney now reading "Enter Night" and I had to hear it!
Shit...Lloyd has the best vibrato out of any Metallica lead player.
yeah its Ron Mcgonny on bass
Honestly, Lloyd Grants solos here are better than Dave and Kirk’s. Maybe it’s just refreshing to hear a different sound.
No
@@davidtrevino8202 Yep, just no 🙄
Seriously dude, I like this a lot but both Mustaine and Hammet are on on completely another level c’mon man lmfao
Hey OP, ignore these guys, I’m with you on Lloyd’s superiority he was an established session guy and I can hear the chops. With all due respect to Dave and Kirk, they had much more incubation time than Lloyd; imagine if he had stuck around until KEA or at least NLTL.
I understand the sentiment. However, Mustaine is untouchable
yes people do some research
also this is the 4 track version with that black guy doing the last guitar solo you read so much about
Lovely this version!
Lloyd grant was not an official memeber of Metallica but still awesome
it's like black sabbath, judas priest and one of their favourites when they started: diamond head mixed
they were "The Black Priests of Diamond" LOL
Lloyd was black just a racist comment comin through
@Killerrayzz yes Lloyd wrote this solo...the thrid solo...the first and second little 5 sec solos were played by James. Lloyds solo was improvised
James Hetfield in the first days of Metallica singed with a clean voice inspired by Sean Harris from Diamond Head
@arr4gtr dave wasn't in the band back then it was just james and lars, james also did bass and lloyd grant played the solos lol!
This singer was destined to become the table
Too all that Claim Dave played on the first version NO NO NO its all official on their website this 1st version feat
First Pressing Lineup
James Hetfield - Guitar, Vocals, Bass
Lars Ulrich - Drums
Lloyd Grant - Lead Guitar
yes i copied lineup from Metallicas website
Yea Dave joined after it the first one was released and played on the second version thought hey still kept some of Lloyds solo. No idea why people still get confused haha
Llyod Grant is excellent on playing guitar, this is an excellent guitar solo for being a demo right here. Lloyd definitely did his thing by showing that black guitarists are capable of playing heavy metal music as well.
Yeah because Bad Brains and Chuck Berry never existed.
@@GooBanana neither of those are metal lmao
@@chikinonfrydai Yes, because only "metal" can be heavy/hard music. Thanks for playing.
@@GooBanana the comment you replied to specified heavy metal..
@@chikinonfrydai here's me giving a fuck
so glad that they sped this song up
Diamond Head's influence was too high on this...
SO TRUE
Tahnk you for sharing this piece of history...
lloyds solo is beautiful better than mustaine or hammett.
Better than Kirk maybe, but Dave's solo is the best (for me anyway)
That is daves solo, dumbass
@@nonnone7060 no this isn't this was before no life til leather demo this is like the first "good version" of hit the lights
@@nonnone7060 dude, stop saying this, it's not true and you're spreading it like people knew shit...
@@Zeew707 better than dave's
It must've been so cool to get this when it came out, and then just watch as these guys became one of the biggest bands of all time
Is James ok? Did he step on a thumb tack?
+gmaglio It sounds like a girl...not trying to make fun of him but it sounds like a girl. Not even joking.
+iRaptus Gaming (Raptor Gaming) This was Hetfield trying to replicate the vocals of Diamond Head
James shields I know, but Hetfield sounds like a girl lol
These are killer vokals
For anybody saying Dave is on this, just search this but version 2. That is the one with Dave. He also sings back up vocals
Is there a bassist in this recording
Kenneth Lally Yes, Hetfield recorded the bass parts
Bryan A. thank you
Mario guzman_1182133 papahet did bass here as this is before Ron joined the band
James can play guitar/bass/drums. This is why he can tell Lars what to play somtimes and even Jason.
It's james
actually at that time james wasnt any confident.. thats what his voice sounds like that.. he may been nervous then
Wahaha James sounds terrible!
@gerby90 now why would you say that? Maybe not with ron, but if they had lloyd and cliff.
Lloyd Grant is a black guy tall black Jamaican born who did the solo on a "Montgomery ward' amp. 2:55 they couldn't adjust the sound levels but I love it all the same,.
Lloyd Grant you can see him in a metallica video on here
"Metallica w/ Mustaine, Grant and McGovney - Hit the Lights (Live in Frisco, Dec. 10th, 2011) "
@Pwnuinwow Well he wasn't a technically real member of the band they just needed a guitarist to play lead because the band wasn't fully formed yet.
METTALLICA \M/
spell the name right dumbass
In the first pressing of metal massacre the name "metallica" was spelled as "mettallica", then in later pressings it was corrected as metallica. and lloyd grant had only played in the first pressing which had the name "mettallica" so if you don't know shit you should shut up
Lloyd Grant murdered Dave and Kirk on this solo.....man i wanted to hear what else he could do....which i could hear Llyod shred on Master of Puppets or One
In a way James kinda sounds like Dave Mustaine here.
Not even close.
Dave Mustaine if he were getting his ass torn apart would be more apt.
Killing is my business demo Mustaine vocals >>>> this shit. And James ended up being a much better vocalist than Dave Mustaine eventually. That's saying a lot about how horrible James' singing is here.
I thought it was Mustaine at first.
Lloyd was way better than Kirk or Dave. I like all three, but Lloyd has more to offer in this one solo as far as variety and statement. I would love to hear his approach to Sanitarium
Guys...let's set this straight once and for all. BOTH Dave and Lloyd Grant are playing on this one. Dave's doing the leads, Lloyd the solo. On the second pressing, instead, Dave plays both leads and solo. Check up the line-up on Metallica's official website: www.metallica.com/releases/compilations/4223/metal-massacre
Lloyd "joined" the band (actually never joined it, except for one solo) after replying to an advertisement on Recycler magazine. But Lars and James did not think he was the right choice, so they did not take the advertisement away. Then Mustaine replied. He called the number, McGovney answered the phone and Dave said something like "I'm the best guitar player you'll ever hear". Mustaine got the job even before the audition started, while he was rehearsing, 'cause Lars and James were already impressed. So they recorded Hit the Lights with Mustaine on lead guitars, but then they thought they wanted another solo on the song and they kinda liked the way Grant soloed on the song during rehearsals (he probably rehearsed with Metallica only twice), so they popped in his house with the recorder and asked him to do a solo literally hours away from the deadline. The solo is featured on Metal Massacre's first release ONLY.
James actually plays the bass parts on this, but Lars had already asked McGovney to join the band at this point and he rehearsed with the band already.
My sources are: various Metallica biographies (especially Joel McIver's unauthorized biography), Metallica official website and..well personal knowledge that I can't recall where it comes from.
First pressing was just Lloyd grant
What ever happened to these guys? They had potential...
And then Mustaine came in and showed them how to thrash and all of a sudden they ended up with 7 demo-ready uber thrash metal songs in less than 4 months. Anybody who doubts the fact that Mustaine was unquestionably the most influential figure in the creation of Kill Em All, should just come here and listen to this lol.
James wasn't quite sure what the hell he wanted to do at this point xD. Played bass, rhythm and sang with a Sean Harris rip-off vocal pattern.
He had to record the bass for the demo. He didn't want to play bass, he knew ha was a guitar player. Hetfield was just taking shit into his own hands.
+Antonio Ramon Concepcion Vidal
Only a matter of time before an ignorant, insecure Metallica fanboy came running. LOL.
I don't think you know Dave wrote every single note of the 4 most pivotal songs on that album, which also includes the best song ( The Mechanix, a.k.a The Four Horsemen ). I don't think you know Dave's song writing and guitar playing was what ACTUALLY started thrash within Metallica and made this metal massacre shit sound pop. I don't think you know Mustaine was the only guitarist for Metallica when he started off and that had a huge influence on James eventually playing thrash guitar as well.
*Mustaine Co helped in 4 songs , co helped , just co helped*
---> He wrote every single note for those songs ( The hard part ). Hetfield wrote the lyrics ( The Easy part ). Do your research.
*And the first Thrash metal song , the first Metallica song is " Hit the Ligths " without Mustaine*
---> Hit The Lights was not even thrash until Mustaine joined, so no, if you think the song you are listening to in the video is 'thrash' by any extent of imagination, something is seriously wrong with you.
Sainandan Ramakrishnan I'm not sure what you mean about Hit The Lights - it really didn't change much after Dave joined. The solos are different and the rhythms are tighter, but that's it - same vocal delivery from Hetfield, same everything else. You can hear the version with Dave on the No Life Till Leather demo.
@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Only person insecure here is you. Always trying to spout off about Mustaine on every Metallica video like you were one of his groupies lol.
+@@SpiralDream
Metallica fanboys are a hilarious bunch, always ignorant in the face of contradictory facts. As if being lied to for 30+ years by Lars FailRich and Hetfield wasn't enough. LMAO.
It is, that's how it sounded when he was 18-19 years old.
Practice and perseverance kids. Just goes to show ya...
This is Where it all started, this right here!
Mustaine didnt play a note on this recording, he did on the second one that was recorded for its replacement.
Why is there an extra three minutes of silence on this
Metallica : Origins
taken of website
Liner Notes
First Pressing Lineup
James Hetfield - Guitar, Vocals, Bass
Lars Ulrich - Drums
Lloyd Grant - Lead Guitar
Second Pressing & 40th Anniversary Reissue Lineup
James Hetfield - Vocals
Dave Mustaine - Guitar
Ron McGovney - Bass
Lars Ulrich - Drums
Executive Producer: Brian Slagel
Assitant Producer: John Kornarens
"Hit the Lights" mastered by Howie Weinberg at Howie Weinberg Mastering, Los Angeles, CA "Hit the Lights" Executive Producer: Greg Fidelman
"Hit the Lights" Audio Fixes: Greg Fidelman & Kent Matcke
Album Cover Design and Production by Elaine Offers
Album Concept by Brian Slagel
Additional Layout on 40th Anniversary Release by Brian James
© 1982 / 2022 Metal Blade Records
@TrafficMind10 nope, he was with james in leather charm, but not metallica
I love this James voice
Holly crap, this sounds like NWOBHM, it's amazing
Wow, you can really hear the new wave of british heavy metal in this recording.