Quick little tech tip: put some grease on the shift rail ball's and if it pop's out the grease will catch it and you won't have to fish it out of the bottom of the tranny. Thanks for the video Jason!!! Keep Rocking it out!!!
excellent tutorial. I just find it fascinating watching the tear down and rebuild with all of the points made for a good reassembly. Transmissions have always intrigued me in how the gears work. On top of that, the engineering simplicity and strength is amazing. thanks for taking the time and effort to do this video.
Thank for the video it was a big help ! I found a trick that worked sweet, take a small stick magnet and stick the ball bearing onto it and insert through the shift rail hole into position , press down with a small flat botton punch while tapping the rod through. Never drop one bearing ! Hope this helps
Very nice footage. The close ups were really clear and descriptive. Im looking foreward to the steering box part. I rebuilt one years ago and couldnt get the timing corect. Ended up taking it to the dealer & they got me fixed rite up, lol.
31 Ford Thank you sir I appreciate the comments! I always try to give as much detail as possible without getting too boring and long. I'm not the worlds best teacher but I try to imagine someone who is working on one thats never done it before. Ahh yes the dreaded steering! ! LOL Well I do it my own way not by the book. I think it's easier but it takes a few steps BEFORE you even take it apart. Stay tuned. .
Very nicely done! That's pretty cool how that trans all comes together. I did a reseal on the hydraulics of the 5610 and made some videos of it but they're nowhere as good and in depth as yours are. Cant wait for part 3!
Ford Farmer Thank you Sir!!! I'm always worried I talk to much and make the videos too long. There is a lot that could be talked about but I try to stick with the basics
Jason1Pa I think you explain it very well! I'd rather it be more in depth then someone pointing a camera at something and saying nothing ya know. Even though I dont have an N series Ford it still help to learn it incase someone comes to me with one to fix.
I have some old bread loaf pans that I put motor oil in and set over an old electric hot plate. I bring the oil up to about 350 and then put the bearings in the oil. Usually 5 to 10 minutes is enough to heat the bearings to fit easily over the shafts. Great way to heat them and pre lube them smiles
@@Jason1Pa Can you answer a quick question about my '49 8N? I think my hydraulic exhaust valve is stuck. Can I reach it through the side covers, and maybe free it by hand? Thanks again.
@@djastram You'd be able to reach it and move it however not sure if you'd free it up permanently. Chances are there is a lot of thick heavy dirt/junk down around it. Only sure way is to drop the pump and clean it very VERY good inside and out. You would be surprised the amount of gunk that will develop around the pump.
After watching this video and the Just8ns animation I took my trans apart yesterday. Was easy to take apart but probably not fun to replace those bearings.
Wish you could do more vids on tractors and maybe old vehicles, especially trucks. For those items you are one of the best I have seen, maybe the best.
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i love this video . good job. are you sure about the oil seal direction in the input shaft housing? just given the construction of the seal , the lip should have been facing the transmission therefore keeping any oil from transmission housing away from the clutch. right?
I went back and looked to make sure I didn't goof. No it's correct. You always want to keep the open side with the spring facing the oil. Thanks for watching!
Very good explanation and video. I noticed that you lubed the oil seals but not the bearings after heating them up or did you do it off camera? Do the bearings need lube during reassembly?
jerryf609 Thanks for watching! Yes I put some motor oil on them. Even the little bit of heat that it took wasn't enough to burn the oil off that already on them. Plus all but two of the bears would be submerged in oil as soon as you add the trans/hydraulic fluid to it.
This is a great explanation video. Are the shafts the same splines on top , and bottom? I'm wanting to make an over under drive transmission. If the shafts are the same splines I can swap the gears to get the overdrive.
Great video awesome glad to see someone putting out this kind of of content my question is would you happen to have all of the bearing part numbers and seal part numbers and where were they purchased at I can't find no literature regarding this For everywhere I look says the parts Are discontinued
Everything you see related to all my Ford videos were purchased at either Just8ns.com or Dennis Carpenter. You can buy everything you need nothing is discontinued. I don't have each individual part number,but it you go on their sites you can find it either by looking or if you have the original part numbers out of the manual you can look them up as well.
Hallo ..and thanks a Lot for your Perfect and wery Nice videos . I h have a TEF20 massay Ferguson I have to splint in 2 so I can shift the cluch. I Will a llso shift bearings inside cluch and oilseal . There will be 2 oilseal ...do you Know If I can shift bouds oilseal in that area ???? Do I have Access from there or must I split more tractor to her og done ??? Tef20 is the same så 4n and 8n ...Tanks a Lot for your Help...Hope you are this moment to you ...Tanks so much
Very well done video and explanations. Clear and concise. No i have a question perhaps someone could answer. The small bearing referred to @ 1:08 simply slips onto the shaft. Does that also hold true for the 8N?
Thanks Jason. Looks like I have some work to do on the 8N I just picked up and the small bearing is on there tight. I talked to Ford and they said it's just out of warranty too....LOL. Thanks again.
I have just rebuilt an 1950 8n box and mine was a tight fit and a smaller bearing size than the 9n I bought a rebuild kit from fixthatford and the bearing was bigger to suit the 9n I then had to order a smaller size to fit my 8n shaft A friend of mine has built a few 9n's and reckons their a different size
So I see in your video the gears just slide off after you removed the bearings. Will the gears slide off on the main and second shaft of my 53NAA? I’ve got to replace the main 2nd & 4th. Plus the counter2nd & 4th. Is it possible to take off the bearing sleeves without damaging them? I’ve got a bearing puller kit, along with the driver one as well.
I am not sure to be honest so I'm not going to guess. This transmission and a Jubilee transmission are two totally different animals. I don't have much experience with Jubilee Ford's so I'm not going to be able to help.
This may not be unique to the 8n but the pilot bearing on the main shaft instead of being a sliding fit like on your 2n was a press fit .The shaft did not apear damage in any way and the old bearing is the same part number as the provided bearing in the kit.is this possible?
Jeff Prewitt This is about as basic as a transmission you will find. If you don't do it often it may look a little intimidating but what I like to do if I'm not to sure about something is take pictures before taking apart
Hola 👋 te escribo desde Pando Canelones Uruguay !. Me ofrecieron un tractorcito de ese modelo . Queria saber qué tal son como máquinas ?!!. Buenos videos aún que no entiendo mucho el inglés. Saludos .
UnitCrane514 The one paper shim I ended up using was very thin.Not much cushion if any. With the little bit of drag or tightness the bearings were set at will allow allow a little bit of compression if it were to happen but unlikely it will. Now I would be a little hesitant using several paper shims although I know people that do and compression has never been a issue. Also keep in mind that the shims available for the axles on these Fords are paper. Can no longer get metal unlesss you would make your own. Main thing is it's better to have them a hair loose then a hair to tight. Thanks for watching!
Hi there. My dad loves this video and would like to know if he can buy a copy from you to watch in a DVD player on his tv. Is this a possibility and if so would you please let us know how to send you payment. Thank you. Sharlin on behalf of Ken Humphreys.
shumphre01 Glad your dad enjoyed these video series. I have received a few request to have these videos put on to a DVD however at this time I don't have the proper equipment to do so. I will check into it though
Jose Farias Im about 35 miles east of Pittsburgh. I generally don't work on tractors for people. There is a lot of work that takes place (especially cleaning) and to charge for labor that would make it worth my while plus the parts alone would scare most away.
@Jason1Pa thought it was,it's been 20 years since I used to work on them now have one of my own.Bought a parts tractor and that bearing is bad.Sometimes a guys mind slips a bit,thanks for the help.
Quick little tech tip: put some grease on the shift rail ball's and if it pop's out the grease will catch it and you won't have to fish it out of the bottom of the tranny. Thanks for the video Jason!!! Keep Rocking it out!!!
EXCELLENT !! I've had mine in pieces for a while and I am getting ready to put it back together, this is very helpful
Carlos Lopez Thank you and good luck with your project!
excellent tutorial. I just find it fascinating watching the tear down and rebuild with all of the points made for a good reassembly. Transmissions have always intrigued me in how the gears work. On top of that, the engineering simplicity and strength is amazing. thanks for taking the time and effort to do this video.
Thanks!!! So happy you enjoyed it😃
Thank for the video it was a big help ! I found a trick that worked sweet, take a small stick magnet and stick the ball bearing onto it and insert through the shift rail hole into position , press down with a small flat botton punch while tapping the rod through. Never drop one bearing ! Hope this helps
ten out of ten mate!
Very nice footage. The close ups were really clear and descriptive. Im looking foreward to the steering box part. I rebuilt one years ago and couldnt get the timing corect. Ended up taking it to the dealer & they got me fixed rite up, lol.
31 Ford Thank you sir I appreciate the comments! I always try to give as much detail as possible without getting too boring and long. I'm not the worlds best teacher but I try to imagine someone who is working on one thats never done it before. Ahh yes the dreaded steering! ! LOL Well I do it my own way not by the book. I think it's easier but it takes a few steps BEFORE you even take it apart. Stay tuned. .
Very nicely done! That's pretty cool how that trans all comes together. I did a reseal on the hydraulics of the 5610 and made some videos of it but they're nowhere as good and in depth as yours are. Cant wait for part 3!
Ford Farmer Thank you Sir!!! I'm always worried I talk to much and make the videos too long. There is a lot that could be talked about but I try to stick with the basics
Jason1Pa I think you explain it very well! I'd rather it be more in depth then someone pointing a camera at something and saying nothing ya know. Even though I dont have an N series Ford it still help to learn it incase someone comes to me with one to fix.
I have some old bread loaf pans that I put motor oil in and set over an old electric hot plate. I bring the oil up to about 350 and then put the bearings in the oil. Usually 5 to 10 minutes is enough to heat the bearings to fit easily over the shafts. Great way to heat them and pre lube them smiles
Nice job!
Amazing work!
Thanks!!
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Thank You Noel!! Glad you enjoyed!
Excellent job!!!
Thanks!
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Appreciate it 😁
To heat cone bearings, place besring on a plate or brick and use torch in the middle to evenly heat the inner race.
No need. Just needs a touch of heat to expand ever so slightly. Doesn't matter if it is heated evenly or not. Not like it will distort the bearing.
Love your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome Thanks!
@@Jason1Pa Can you answer a quick question about my '49 8N?
I think my hydraulic exhaust valve is stuck. Can I reach it through the side covers, and maybe free it by hand?
Thanks again.
@@djastram You'd be able to reach it and move it however not sure if you'd free it up permanently. Chances are there is a lot of thick heavy dirt/junk down around it. Only sure way is to drop the pump and clean it very VERY good inside and out. You would be surprised the amount of gunk that will develop around the pump.
@@Jason1Pa Yeah, I plan on overhauling the pump, but I need to disc the garden first. Poor timing for sure. Thanks again.
Looks like the the valve is stuck, and the linkage rod is broken. Any tips on where to find a new pair of valves for a 8N?
After watching this video and the Just8ns animation I took my trans apart yesterday. Was easy to take apart but probably not fun to replace those bearings.
It's not too bad. Heat is your friend or shop press will get it done too
Wish you could do more vids on tractors and maybe old vehicles, especially trucks. For those items you are one of the best I have seen, maybe the best.
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i love this video . good job. are you sure about the oil seal direction in the input shaft housing? just given the construction of the seal , the lip should have been facing the transmission therefore keeping any oil from transmission housing away from the clutch. right?
I went back and looked to make sure I didn't goof. No it's correct. You always want to keep the open side with the spring facing the oil.
Thanks for watching!
Very good explanation and video. I noticed that you lubed the oil seals but not the bearings after heating them up or did you do it off camera? Do the bearings need lube during reassembly?
jerryf609 Thanks for watching! Yes I put some motor oil on them. Even the little bit of heat that it took wasn't enough to burn the oil off that already on them. Plus all but two of the bears would be submerged in oil as soon as you add the trans/hydraulic fluid to it.
This is a great explanation video. Are the shafts the same splines on top , and bottom? I'm wanting to make an over under drive transmission. If the shafts are the same splines I can swap the gears to get the overdrive.
No shafts are different.
Great video awesome glad to see someone putting out this kind of of content my question is would you happen to have all of the bearing part numbers and seal part numbers and where were they purchased at I can't find no literature regarding this For everywhere I look says the parts Are discontinued
Everything you see related to all my Ford videos were purchased at either Just8ns.com or Dennis Carpenter. You can buy everything you need nothing is discontinued. I don't have each individual part number,but it you go on their sites you can find it either by looking or if you have the original part numbers out of the manual you can look them up as well.
Hallo ..and thanks a Lot for your Perfect and wery Nice videos . I h have a TEF20 massay Ferguson I have to splint in 2 so I can shift the cluch. I Will a llso shift bearings inside cluch and oilseal . There will be 2 oilseal ...do you Know If I can shift bouds oilseal in that area ???? Do I have Access from there or must I split more tractor to her og done ??? Tef20 is the same så 4n and 8n ...Tanks a Lot for your Help...Hope you are this moment to you ...Tanks so much
I do not know much about Massey Ferguson so I am sorry I can't help. There are somethings that are similar to 9N 2N and 8N but most is very different.
Very well done video and explanations. Clear and concise.
No i have a question perhaps someone could answer.
The small bearing referred to @ 1:08 simply slips onto the shaft. Does that also hold true for the 8N?
Russ Davis Thanks for your kind words and yes it would be the same. All 3 of the N series use that same input shaft style
Thanks Jason. Looks like I have some work to do on the 8N I just picked up and the small bearing is on there tight.
I talked to Ford and they said it's just out of warranty too....LOL.
Thanks again.
I have just rebuilt an 1950 8n box and mine was a tight fit and a smaller bearing size than the 9n
I bought a rebuild kit from fixthatford and the bearing was bigger to suit the 9n
I then had to order a smaller size to fit my 8n shaft
A friend of mine has built a few 9n's and reckons their a different size
Should install a step up /step down since you have it all apart.
stuntcardriver Thought about it but would sooner put one in the 8N I have.
So I see in your video the gears just slide off after you removed the bearings. Will the gears slide off on the main and second shaft of my 53NAA? I’ve got to replace the main 2nd & 4th. Plus the counter2nd & 4th. Is it possible to take off the bearing sleeves without damaging them? I’ve got a bearing puller kit, along with the driver one as well.
I am not sure to be honest so I'm not going to guess. This transmission and a Jubilee transmission are two totally different animals. I don't have much experience with Jubilee Ford's so I'm not going to be able to help.
Jason1Pa Okay, well I appreciate your time. Thanks!
This may not be unique to the 8n but the pilot bearing on the main shaft instead of being a sliding fit like on your 2n was a press fit .The shaft did not apear damage in any way and the old bearing is the same part number as the provided bearing in the kit.is this possible?
Can't say for sure I've never had a 8N transmission apart.
Sure a lot of moving parts not certain I could remember where they all fit back together
Jeff Prewitt This is about as basic as a transmission you will find. If you don't do it often it may look a little intimidating but what I like to do if I'm not to sure about something is take pictures before taking apart
Hola 👋 te escribo desde Pando Canelones Uruguay !. Me ofrecieron un tractorcito de ese modelo . Queria saber qué tal son como máquinas ?!!. Buenos videos aún que no entiendo mucho el inglés. Saludos .
Isn't that gasket paper going to compress over time?
UnitCrane514 The one paper shim I ended up using was very thin.Not much cushion if any. With the little bit of drag or tightness the bearings were set at will allow allow a little bit of compression if it were to happen but unlikely it will. Now I would be a little hesitant using several paper shims although I know people that do and compression has never been a issue. Also keep in mind that the shims available for the axles on these Fords are paper. Can no longer get metal unlesss you would make your own. Main thing is it's better to have them a hair loose then a hair to tight. Thanks for watching!
Hi there. My dad loves this video and would like to know if he can buy a copy from you to watch in a DVD player on his tv. Is this a possibility and if so would you please let us know how to send you payment. Thank you. Sharlin on behalf of Ken Humphreys.
shumphre01 Glad your dad enjoyed these video series. I have received a few request to have these videos put on to a DVD however at this time I don't have the proper equipment to do so. I will check into it though
What is your transmission number??
The on on the right side,??
I have a 53 NAA and I'm trying to do transmission and I can't find one..
There is no number for the transmission.
Where are you located? How much would you charge to rebuild a ford n2 like this?
Jose Farias Im about 35 miles east of Pittsburgh. I generally don't work on tractors for people. There is a lot of work that takes place (especially cleaning) and to charge for labor that would make it worth my while plus the parts alone would scare most away.
On a 8n upper shaft,is the front bearing slip on,or press on.
Press on.
@Jason1Pa thought it was,it's been 20 years since I used to work on them now have one of my own.Bought a parts tractor and that bearing is bad.Sometimes a guys mind slips a bit,thanks for the help.
@@terrymiler2164 I understand. I had to stop and think myself. 🤣😅
Why are you not grease packing your bearings?
Because the moment I put gear oil in the transmission they are bathing in oil. No need.
Oh ok
need some help with a 8n trans no 2nd gear would you be interested helping me tractor is in Bradford co.
Ronald Krause Well thats about 5 hours from me. Have you ever had the top cover off to take a look inside?
No but l got the broken gear out and use the tractor for about 2 years now trans oil been changed every two years l have 1st 3rd 4th and reverse
I live 2.5hrs from where the tractors are also l have a 52 8n and a ford 3000 thats like new thanks
would you be interested in helping me Ron
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