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I died when tony showed up when he said weird
I rewatched just to see it 😂😂
Bruh yes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@joshpollard6544Same😂
Wait im out of the loop, who is that?
@@samgomez9942tony Ferguson he does weird shit, there’s a meme about him where it goes tony the type of guy to lose 6 fights in a row but still be the only one to beat khabib 😂
"I don't wear gloves to protect your face, I wear gloves to protect my hands " - Don the legend
But there’s a correlation between a higher rate of hand fractures and padding the higher a hand is padded the more likely it is to get broken,
@RedFuzeGaming Exactly
I don’t wear gloves to protect my face.
@RedFuzeGaming I agree, but in addition that padding introduces instability upon contact which only gets worse the more thats added. That’s why the old puffy boxing gloves were known for the significant hand injuries that went with them.
@@timurthejerk9270 Because people throw more punches with gloves on than without.
Joe just answered his own question
When did he ask a question?
@@jovanleon7 I don't remember it's been too long
@@jovanleon7He asked Why we have gloves in mma and then prooceded to explain Why we have gloves in mma
@@Thetruesurvivor21lmao true! Hands break more easily . He answered himself 😅
@@JPW328fr. also i would like to see more elbows, knees and kicks compared to just a bunch of punches in mma so its kinda not a bad idea to do some bareknuckle fights
"jamie pull up that video of the bear punching without gloves"
HAHAHAHAHAH
"bear" knuckle punching
He just contradicted himself, because hands are fragile, thats why you protect them
I think he's suggesting that punching be phased out of the sport, although punching soft tissue targets probably isn't as dangerous to the health of a fighter's hand
@@rivahkillahI will admit, punching being phased out of MMA would be the stupidest shit ever. Think about someone like Ngannou or Alex periera l. I’d rather see that than some wrestler lay on someone for 25 minutes
@@Ashw1115 I would rather see something that resembles a real fight as much as possible. Current UFC rules favor strikers too much.
@@rdfoskff nah fam a realistic fight isn’t 2 dudes rolling around the floor. All the street fights here in phillys start with them hands baby boy
Homie he started off saying "gloves give you a false sense of confidence" hes not saying they shouldnt protect them hes basically just saying people might try some shit because they think their hands wont break because of the gloves
Gloves enable fighters to punch harder, which in turn means the punches cause more concussive damage. Removing gloves would mean less brain damage, but more cuts and bone breaking. And grappling would probably get even more attention.
Edit: ua-cam.com/video/XtYMlakuZQ0/v-deo.htmlsi=A9WEk3tPAgS-Jgty
This video explains it a lot better than I can through comments. Backed up by studies.
Gloves don't enable you to punch harder wtf 🫵🤡
@@restinpeacebrothers95 Tell me you never trained Martial Arts without telling me you never trained Martial Arts.
@@restinpeacebrothers95they allow you to punch harder without injury is that better for ya bud
@@restinpeacebrothers95lmfao
@@Adige-Lpbare knuckle fights would end faster breaking the orbital socket or jaw in youre face or losing teeth would lead to many more doctor stoppages in mma not to mention large cuts which would happen fairly often
God i fucking love H Y D R O G E N from the Hotline Miami Soundtrack
You're doing honest work in these comments
THANK YOU
Man I love what could be done with H Y D R O G E N, like nuclear fusion.
SO GOOD
dont used God name like that...
Hotline miami music yessirrrrr!!
Man of culture
As a matter of fact, there are several studies of how human fist specifically evolved to punch other humans, yes, the primarily function is to work as a tool, but the secondary is to function as a weapon.
Joe is such a clown at times with the stupid shit he spouts off. However, he is a celebrity and therefore "infallible."
That is true but they're designed for the both, grabbing and punching, the problem is people always punch with their whole hand, the ring and pinky knuckles are not made for punching rather for grip strength, the index and middle are the ones made for punching, why do you think people fracture their pinky and ring knuckles so much, they're not made for punching, the index and middle are though, if you punch correctly with the pressure equal on both knuckles while using about 50 percent of your punching potential, guess what. Nothing happens. And if you condition your knuckles even more than that your hand becomes even stronger and the possibility of a fracture goes down significantly.
What backs up the study?
@@noahtm7530my middle finger knuckle I fractured by repeatedly punching someone in the skull because they were in fetal position on my bed in prison.
@@HairyKnuckles222 If you read my post correct I said equal pressure on both knuckles and about 50 percent of your strength, you must have been punching with much more than your hand could have handled and without equal pressure on both knuckles.
Bare knuckle joins the chat…..
Exactly he's just insecure he cannot fight that's why he sucks on jiu jitsu fighters cause they only know how to wrestle tell thy to bare knuckles boxers tell that to dudes who street fight tell that to kimbo slice rip
Bare knuckles wrap their wrists up tho
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@@heightsfynest6023Joe Rogan would beat the shit out of you. Have you seen his kicks
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No one wants to break their hands every 3 months🤣 I would agree if it was a one time thing but to a degree if someone does this for a job they need to be able to go back to work.
Nonsense, they put enough tape and gauze on the hands to make the hand more like a rock. If you want no gloves, fine but take away the tape too.
@@robhamilton4736boxers break their hand too even with the tape gauze gloves etc
i love when these "bare knuckle" competitions end up wrapping hands so much its basically a glove
@@yimpyoi9808the BKFC only wraps the thumb & wrist. The knuckles are still bare.
It’s is literally proven that boxing gloves and mma gloves cause more fractures than a bare fist
I’ve only been in a handful of fights but there’s one that taught me a lesson worth remembering. Was actually the last time I went all in with someone else. My hands were in pain for what seemed like months. His two black eyes and busted lips healed within a couple weeks. The lesson I learned was that nobody wins a fight in the long run.
Some guy tried to hit me with some big stick In a 2 on 3 he missed and I punched in the fore head i only felt it after the fight and it HURT
The “bonk!” sound fx had me dying 😂
Yes let's let them break their hands over and over again. That'll keep business flowing
You'd change your style and stop throwing closed fist punches all the time. Lile Joe said, more elbows and knees, or use the old Pancrase style with open palm strikes.
@@rlanger3108or knuckle conditioning
How did you watch the video and make a retarded comment like that. His whole point was if there was no gloves people wouldnt be punching.
@@toastednugget_3124yeah, no punches get thrown in bare knuckle boxing 💡
@@rlanger3108open palm is super effective too!
It would open up room for more technical strikes and grapples too. Cuts would happen alot faster as well as boxer fractures.
Not true at all lmao. As is they can do everything they need to. Gloves do not inhibit their striking or grappling at all. No gloves would increase cuts and broken fingers/hands. Nothing else.
no, is just that, people would be more carefull. grappling is safer.
the range would be shorter too. cause, open palm punches would show up. ceirtainly, better fights.@@forwardmoving8252
Yall mfs just want to see dudes die in there 💀 your hands breaking every 3 months is horrendous for your health. Don’t come at me with the smartass “but they’re already getting brain damage” so what? Add fuel to the fire and add broken hands to the list?
@@forwardmoving8252 ignorance
that’s also a good reason why they should be the only things that are padded, they break easy…
Padding protects your opponent for lacerations so I don’t get Joe’s point
@@hydreamc853
That doesnt effect lacerations caused by elbows, kicks, etc. Thats Joes point. If your whole reason is “prevents cuts” then it makes no sense
@iamrolfie3755 Elbows and kicks to the head are much harder to land than punches, though. If there were no gloves, fighters would be bleeding heavily by the first round.
@@EdgyDabs47KSI would disagree with you
@@EdgyDabs47i love elbowing people or eye poking them it's so effective.
Your two knuckles in your index and middle finger are large, hard and domed specifically to cause damage. The issue is people are punching with their ring and pinky finger along with the other two, which are made for mechanical function alone and not to be used as weapons.
Phoenix eye
Every “boink” sound 😂
Lmao, You're right.. I don't know how I missed that
🤣
Joe changed his view on this reaaaaal quick after the bkfc became a thing. No gloves is ridiculous, dangerous and super unnecessary
He always says some nut sht
At this point, I think Joe just says random shit to see if the guest agrees.
BKFC gives the reality of fighting as a sport, because it shouldn't be. Short careers are better than 20 year point-match careers in the UFC. Fighting is fighting, we shouldn't he doing that for long.
It's more messy looking more than it is dangerous. It's less brain damage because your hand and face are absorbing the force instead of your brain, which is infinitely better in the long term. It is hard to watch though for most people because cuts and blood are visible unlike brain damage
People just act like every thing he says on the sport has to be right cause he said it.
bro the bonks 😂😂😂
I hope Dana White is paying attention. IQe need at least one UFC event with sound FX throughout.
Lol the sound when Ngannou gives that guy an uppercut had me rolling😂😂
It’s because what he said your hands break way easier than any thing else so they get protected
Literally
Joe Rogan has always has stupid ass takes but his followers eat it up and can never disagree with him
@@TeococuilcoI don’t agree with him on this but he’s just having a conversation, sharing his opinion. I fail to understand why your so bothered by that 😂. This is like a 10sec clip from probably a 3 hour convo. He’s just saying he’d like to seeing gloves phased out and see mma become more realistic and technical. I disagree with him on this but I’m not angry about it 😂
That's the point it's artificial take away gloves and wraps and fighter would be forced to adjust
@@billyjohnson125People would still throw their hands. Yeah, the hands are fragile, but they’re still the most dexterous part of the body. Compared to elbows, your fists are benefiting to from two extra hinges and levers in the elbow joint and wrist.
This allows for not only extra leverage, but a myriad of different angles and trajectories.
Being able to throw your fists well is still the best striking attribute.
Joe would have straight gladiator battles if he was in charge
They are made to fight, because back in olden days we needed to fight to survive
the bonks killed me
I’ll tell you what tho, motorcycle gloves DEFINITELY give me confidence. I feel like I can punch the world with those on.
Still need to wrap your wrists though lol
This vid every 5 seconds... BINK! BONK! BOONK! 😂
Like coconut 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hotline Miami music in the background? Very nice, kinda fitting for a violent sport.
bro gonna have people rocking up to mma fights looking like Michelin man cosplays
Joe was high here. Have you seen bkfc ?!😂
First of all they still protect their wrist second of all have you heard these guys talk about their punching they have to change the whole way they punch because otherwise it would too easy and also bkfc is boxing without gloves they can’t grapple kick or elbow opponents
When is he not 😂
@@markodjiporovic3905K.O.T.S? MMA without gloves on the hard surface, strikers have more chance against grapplers, can soccer kick etc.
He has actually said he changed his opinion after watching bare knuckle and how insane it gets lol this video is old
Still a brick coming at ur fast with or without gloves
These sound effects tho 😂😂😂 perfect
Punches are always light in a street fight for me bc they are just set ups for elbows
Bro just proved the point he was trying to refute
Joe: Hands weren't designed for punching thing's.
Mike Tyson: Hold my blunt.
He broke his hands in a street fight with a boxer
@@shawkibouhroud sh*t happens
@@shawkibouhroud They're designed for the both, grabbing and punching, the problem is people always punch with their whole hand, the ring and pinky knuckles are not made for punching rather for grip strength, the index and middle are the ones made for punching, why do you think people fracture their pinky and ring knuckles so much, they're not made for punching, the index and middle are though, if you punch correctly with the pressure equal on both knuckles while using about 50 percent of your punching potential, guess what. Nothing happens.
@@shawkibouhroudhe broke it on the dudes face he broke his orbital bone 😂
If we didn’t have gloves everyone would be fighting wayyyy less because of their hands breaking in almost every single fight
Or fights would just involve way less punching.
They're designed for the both, grabbing and punching, the problem is people always punch with their whole hand, the ring and pinky knuckles are not made for punching rather for grip strength, the index and middle are the ones made for punching, why do you think people fracture their pinky and ring knuckles so much, they're not made for punching, the index and middle are though, if you punch correctly with the pressure equal on both knuckles while using about 50 percent of your punching potential, guess what. Nothing happens. And if you condition your knuckles even more than that your hand becomes even stronger and the possibility of a fracture goes down significantly, do research before believing whatever you see on the internet please.
“Your hands break so easy” literally just solved the solution and didn’t even realize it.
Hands are designed for the both, grabbing and punching, the problem is people always punch with their whole hand, the ring and pinky knuckles are not made for punching rather for grip strength, the index and middle are the ones made for punching, why do you think people fracture their pinky and ring knuckles so much, they're not made for punching, the index and middle are though, if you punch correctly with the pressure equal on both knuckles while using about 50 percent of your punching potential, guess what. Nothing happens. And if you condition your knuckles even more than that your hand becomes even stronger and the possibility of a fracture goes down significantly.
His point is that people would not throw as hard of punches if they knew they’ll prolly break their hand, leading to less brain injuries.
Is it a good idea? I don’t think so, I think it’d be too bad for business, people don’t want to watch dudes grapple for 25 minutes , but I understand his reasoning
Ialways thought the gloves were not to protect the hand but to protect the face of the opponent from cuts and tears from knuckles
I guess Joe never saw the early UFC's where half the fighters broke their hands during their fights
guess again
and that's his problem because? just do palm striking, like in real life.
@@hazardeur that's called pancrase.
To the wankers in the comment section, Joe also believes fights should cover an entire football field. He's trying to reframe this sport into a kamate. While we're at it, let's remove mouth pieces, cups, and let fighters fish hook and eye gouge
and it was great wasnt it @@qjames0077
Imagine if they allowed biting. Now do jujitsu 🤔
It would be interesting but I don't think would make much difference to the outcome of the fight.
It's chew-jitsu now, bradda
The sounds of bonk
gets me every time 😂😂
Maybe that is precisely the reason why they cover your fists with padding? Because they are not designed for punching?
the Hotline Miami music is triggering ptsd
People who’ve been on fist fights can tell you how your knuckles starts hurting after the adrenaline wears off
Your hands are just weak.
depends on how many you've been in. the bones in your knuckles start to compress after a while and the more scars, the less pain. but yes, it does hurt for a week or so if you cause damage to your hand by punching something with full force. unless you break bones, that takes 2-3 months to heal back to normal.
this is why you train to break wood planks or bricks in most martial arts. it will harden your bones when you do it enough.
Sure it’s gonna hurt but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use them, breaking your hands/knuckles when punching is down to lack of technique, experience and conditioning
Most people who streetfights doesn't have a proper fist tbh.
MMA should be barehanded because they don’t have pads on their elbows… Okay joe Rogan.
Confucius say "Don't punch with knuckle punch with iron Palm"
The Sound 💀
Because you're most likely to get hit with the fist more than any other part of the body. It's also the most accurate and fastest strike compared to any other part of your body you can use for strikes. Very simple answer on why we wear gloves, joe
word
The point of having gloves on is not primarily to soften the blows, but to soften the potential damage inflicted upon the bearer
Open palm strikes are a lot more effective than most people realize.
Reduces cuts too, allowing for longer fights without cut stoppage.
Joe: "Hands are super fragile"
Joe a second later: "why do you cover them"
The point is that they warp what a fight would look like. And compares it to wearing padding on other areas, which would protect the target from injury, and is not allowed.
It's the same thing as making everyone wear a thich roped around the body, that would favour grapplers a lot. And the idea of MMA is being as simple as possible, so removing gloves wouldn't be any different of prohibithing the use of shoes.
@@arthurrosa9403no, people would throw just as hard in a real fight even though they would break their hand. Because it’s life or death. (May not be but you won’t have that knowledge unless u die) so every mma bout id supposed to simulate that, which can’t be simulated consistently if their hands are constantly broken. It’s not a life simulation buddy it’s an individual fight simulation
@@notreallyafamousartist695 Yeah, but the first punch doesn't always kill people, y'know? Throwing the second with a few cracked bones doesn't feel great. And throwing the 100th sure as hell isn't even a punch anymore.
Dude answered his own question. "Why gloves on the hands?" 2 seconds later " hands break so easy!"
Hands don't break very easily when you use them for what they are intended.
@@DIVAD291 yeah and your elbows aren't technically meant for bashing people either. But with Rogans logic all we should do is grapple in a fight. I disagree fundamentaly with the assumption that knuckles arent meant for brute force. Apes use their knuckles for brute force as well and their hands have the same basic structure as ours, if anything it's natural for animals like humans and apes to use protruding joints for force. Especially when you have four of them at the end of a weighted pendulum. All Joe Rogaine does is talk out of his ass.
The problem is the old UFC everyone did everything they could to avoid too many punches and you end up having people scared to fight fully
The legs were not designed for striking they were designed for walking,running, standing. Elbows were not designed for striking it is designed to give the arm its versatility.
"Pull up a bear fighting without gloves."
The bluntness of the glove typically allows more rattle in the brain than the sharpness and hardness of bare-knuckle.
Hiw did you establish that?
Basic physics?
@@gregorsamsa1364
You should let me punch the side of your head without gloves then. We will find out what rattles the brain.
I feel like while he was trying to prove why they shouldn't wear gloves in MMA, he literally explained exactly why they do wear gloves lol
His point is that punching the way mma fighters do is unrealistic.
If fighters aren't allowed to wear gloves(and more importantly hand wraps), they aren't going to continue punching the way they do in mma or even bare knuckle.
I feel like that's an excellent argument for WHY you would support your hands
Good points. How did the elbows & knees get missed. Rules need changing.
Because you don’t punch as often as you do with your punches, dummy. You gotta protect the weapons u use more
Bro it's UFC we're not at a taekwondo event💀
Joe talks about how easy it is to break your hand but then insists that padding is unnecessary 😂😂
Sports injury statistics also prove it would be way safer too! Bare fist punches cause a lot more topical damage, which looks really bad. But there are less cases of more severe injuries when you shrink down or remove the glove. More blood and bruising, but less concussions, fractures, and chronic injuries.
I love the sound effects
No gloves in an MMA format would lead to substantially more grappling which is bad for ratings as a whole
They used to do MMA without gloves. They used palm strikes to the head and closed fists for the body. Not much would change
@@ruslanshavkatov466 people don’t want to see that though. Boxing is visually appealing which is not as effective without gloves
Soooo Joes basically saying, "Stop with that gay punching shit and start kicking and rolling."😂 Exactly what I'd expect from a Tai Kwon Do and BJJ fighter😂
Joe hates on boxing heaps I don't know why
@@carlospiceyweiner100 Fr, even IF the technicalities of punching are less lethal than other methods. That shit looks cool AF lmao. And that's why we watch, to see some cool shit.
Maybe like 35% of UFC viewers actually care about the technical styles, less even really understand them. But when you mix it with what we already know, you not only dramatically make it more interesting and digestible, you're bringing in people who would otherwise tune out.
@@carlospiceyweiner100i think some boxer laid joe
@@meema844 exactly
@@Rick_Astley_Fan861 wym
Gloves are to protect the skin of your opponent from cutting as easy as it does with knuckles and for light protection so you can throw more punches. You can throw 100 punches in the time you throw 50 or less elbows. You also don't throw knees or kicks as much as you punch. The gloves are so the fight lasts because long time ago fights went on a lot longer before rules kept evolving in combat sports gloves were originally meant to keep from eye pokes too but MMA changed that back
Padding in gloves is just to protect your hands, not the other person's head
The gloves are there to protect the striker from hand breaks. Same way in sparring the shins are protected but the large bones are harder to break.
To be far we haven't fought for sport back then without weapons
Cant get enough of the bonk sound effect over these clips lmao
The Hotline Miami music hits hard.
It’s not so much the gloves but the gloves and the wrap underneath that help give a lot of support versus bareknuckle.
There's pretty solid evidence that our fists developed for punching
First time he’s actually made sense
Dude, watch the story of the boxer who removed some padding from his glove. The opposing coach realized something was wrong just by looking at the damage to his fighter. Fists are deadly mate.
CSGO round start music? I almost started clearing my house
Exactly. Gloves are meant to protect the hands not the opponent
Well just imagine punching with nickle punching without gloves is dangerous af
Digging the hotline Miami song
What’s next? Allowing groin shots, eye gouging, finger arm bars, soccer kicks, curb stomping, throwing your opponent outside the octagon, spectators to join the fight
I used to have my characters knees and shins padded in the first UFC undisputed game 😂🔥
Spinning heel kick is probably the one that’s most devastating . What is surprising is there hasn’t been a load of deaths due to that kick alone
Kick is the strongest but look at Knee strikes complications it looks more devestating and brutal
@@fool975 yeah knee and elbow strikes are big hitters but heels are at the end of limbs and speeded up to hit hardest . You could put it in a scale of knees/elbows are 75% kinetic full strength hits and spinning hook heel strikes are 100%
@@fool975 you can’t knock elbow and knees though as I won many fights with repeating them until they out or beg not to be hit anymore ha ha
I always forget that Joe Rogan was a boxer at one point until I see a reel like this
i always thought the only reason mma has gloves was to protect the fighters hands
İ was wondering why that knee hit felt that good but then i realised the music on the back
i always thought it was to protect your opponents face from tearing as easy
Maybe to protect the hand so that after they can keep practicing for their next fight instead of recovering from an injury
The bonk sound 💀💀
The reason it’s covered is because it’s the most fragile striking tool and it is the most used
Sounds like something a baki narrator would say
😂😂
The Baki narrator*
The UFC not having gloves is literally the reason they wear gloves now. Back when the UFC first started, when it was essentially a tournament between disciplines, they didn't wear gloves. And it was commonplace for fighters back then to not be able to compete in their later matches, because in an earlier fight, they injured their hand from repeatedly punching their opponent in the head. Adding gloves helped curb those injuries.
Always wondered why knees, feet, and elbows don't have padding
I mean he answered his own question
Hotline miami music
Damnit, now I gotta play again 🤣
The song is called H Y D R O G E N
Certified H Y D R O G E N moment
Based
HYDROGEN
The bonk sound cracks me up
The fucking special effects had me dead 😂😂😂
The Hotline Miami ost is killing me
your hands break so easy...🎵🕺
Never would I think I would hear hydrogen playing in the background of a UA-cam short
No gloves, no standing up a fight, no rounds.