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Welcome to the Jenna & Julien Podcast where we talk about all the things. If you are looking for your everyday, normal, by the book podcast, then you're in the wrong place. We created this because we tend to have awesome, random, and sometimes drunk conversations that we realized had to be shared with the lovely internet world. So here we are.
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It's actually easier to think that Jenna has travelled to an alternate universe or dimension than it is to process that she's left the internet indefinitely
bro stop i’m gonna cri
😥 she's just prepping really hard for her basketball season
*waits for white hole to bring her back* lmfao
Seems legit - I'll always look up with my binoculars; maybe she's having a great time in the Virgo constellation. Hope she is
Is she really never coming back?😿
I forget that Jenna majored in Psychology sometimes
Tracie Porter she’s truly so well spoken and her knowledge on certain topics just makes her such a captivating speaker
I’m pretty sure she has forgotten that she majored in psychology
I've been watching her for so long, how did I not know this??? I've always found her super insightful about stuff tho so I'm rly not at all surprised.
@@Beespank just because you majored in psychology, doesn't mean you are super insightfull
@@fredericksinclair She wasn't implying that. She's simply stating that that specific quality in Jenna probably goes hand and hand with what she's studied. Idk if I said that right but got damn why ya gotta be that guy
I love that they live in la and are always dressed like its 15 degrees out
baby angel I live in NY where it can get below 15 degrees outside and I can guarantee you we would not be wearing just a hoodie and a beanie in 15 degree weather. You would catch me wearing a winter coat and Tims😂
same lmao when I lived in California I would also dress like it was 15 degrees when it was like 90 something degrees
In Texas it sometimes get to 15 degrees
emely SAME I FEEL YOU
PLOT TWIST: It's 15 degrees in their house.
Jenna- "I could never be a police officer, i'd be sad all the time"
Me- *literally listening to this podcast while working for the sex crime division*
Me- pretty much yep.
Oh that sucks...
Oh shit... are you staying in the job because it’s important?
Your work is so massively important and appreciated
What is it like? Other than being sad.
Weird flex but ok
"I've never done meth." I'm so proud of you, sweetie, you're doing great.
I've done meth with my dad !
@@syrussthagreat237 k watchu want a scooby snack ?
@@syrussthagreat237 are you good?
@@syrussthagreat237 same but with my grandma
@@kaanonen7873 😂😂😂
I have a conspiracy that Jenna has never had a basketball game
Isabella J It's tomorroooooow
This is blasphemy DELETE
I’m scared
Naw bitch, it's tomorrow
It was a volleyball game this whole time
Julien: reads mysteries
Jenna: *Visible distress*
Anyone else re-watch these podcasts when they need a Jenna fix?
One (of the many) thing I love about you two is that you're clear when you are unsure about something. 'this is what I think, but check that', and then fact checking during the podcast. We need more of this, of people saying "I'm not sure, let's find out, but even after we look it might still be unclear".
Dan Beale Cocks I noticed that too and I love it. Jenna made a comment about Bar Mitzvah’s and corrected herself because she felt since she wasn’t Jewish she didn’t truly know that topic.
this is exactly how they stay unproblematic! other you tubers should learn from them... they're very mature about things, especially controversial and touchy topics
@@lotadle what happened?
@@lotadle I see this comment was a year ago but I just need to put it down to be very clear that that's absolutely not what happened
@@janemh5866 I know how I worded it was completely wrong, I was a year younger and really didn't completely understand the issue, but now I do. she took accountability, and now is taking a well deserved break.
"Hopefully you're not eating now"
*Me stopping mid bite*
I imagine your profile picture being the face you made mid bite
I did the same thing 😂
Same- but I’m always eating 😎
Same!!
Me too😄
Jenna: “This was in the United States?”
Julien: “This WAS in the United States.”
Jenna, under her breath: “.....shit.....”
@9:22
I don’t even see her lips move. This is freaking me out !!
@@Humanh8red bro watching it back I'm pretty sure it's Julien making the noise??? But idk
the Jamison Family story happened like 20 minutes from my home town and it's terrifying
she actually didn't say that! if you replay it and listen closely it's julien that makes a noise that sounds like the word!
I was at the Cecil the same weekend that Elisa went missing, a creepy guy tried following me into the hotel and toward the elevator, and the front desk got SUPER alarmed and intercepted him while I ran for the elevator. I was creeped out by the guy but even more creeped at how alarmed the front desk people were as if they knew him and he'd tried this before... all I did was glance at them and mouth 'help' when I walked in. Then this whole crazy thing went down and found out she went missing at the same time... I always wonder if that could've been me.
I’m glad you were safe, it’s just sad that Elisa wasn’t able to be saved.
:0 that’s scary, thank god your okay
Did u talk to the police bout this?
Charlotte Riddle I tried but I’m pretty sure they just thought I was a crazy person lol... they took my description and didn’t contact me again
I've had friends staying at that hostel, I've been down there myself. Seen and heard shit that you wouldn't believe. Most people staying in the area are unaware that you're staying on the end of skid row.
Make a dog bed out of Irish spring so Kermit can rub his body all over it
Zena Aumada THIS IS AMAZING!!! 💚🖤💚
Zena Aumada YESSSSS
YES!!!
Mister Physics wasn't the first comment to have this idea lol
Boi do I have news for you
I'm kinda sad naturebox isn't a sponsor because when Jenna said "I need a snack too" all I could think was MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR A SEGUE
4:27 - Jameson family
19:57 - elisa lam
36:44 - man from torrid
44:27 - fart
Thnx for the Fart thing😄
Appreciated
you spelled “taurid” wrong
i love you for the fart stamp
Salty Sapphire so did you
When Jenna and Julien talk about Ad they sound like parents that's three other kids were flops and Ad is the only one that turned out right.
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I guess he really was #ripad
I love when jenna talks about psychology and sociology it’s so interesting
i'm like 99% sure she has a degree in psychology, but i might be wrong
neen bean fighting machine You’re correct. She has a masters degree in psychology.
When they started talking about ad...😭
#RIP❤️#ad
Chelsea Schaf he ain't dead??
bts shrimp he is sadly
RIP Ad. :(
mona garcia what?! What happened
Gianna Kelly he passed of old age
Its been a year please make another unsolved mysteries pod cast PLEASSSSSSSSEEE! We loved this video
I agree
It’s been 2 years PLEASE
Kaleb Gent too bad the podcast doesn't exist anymore 😔
This is the scariest "unsolved mystery" of my life, I don't tell this story to many people because I'm scared they won't believe me, but it's terrifying and we never came to a solid conclusion to what was going on. I was 16 at the time living in a trailer with my Mom and 3 siblings, in a small trailer park with about 10 trailers in total. The park was sandwiched between a homeless shelter and a gas station so we met a lot of weirdos. Our neighbor was a sweet old crazy cat man with disabilities that made it hard to walk and he had like 20 cats always outside hanging out, we had been his neighbor before we moved here too so just for preference there's no way it was him. My mom worked the night shift from 11 pm to 7 am and got a 1 hour lunch break at 3 am. It was summer so me and my sister would stay up pretty late watching UA-cam and ironically most of the time it was scary stories or horror movies. The only tv was in my mom's room at the very end of the trailer towards the side that's near the gas station. There was only one window in her room and it was on the side of the house facing my neighbor's home, and we had a small air conditioning unit sticking in it. If you've ever been in a trailer or even outside of one you will know that you can hear everything outside and if you're outside you can hear everything going on in. I think this started within the first week of summer break, me and my sister would be watching scary stories and when 2 am rolled around we would hear heavy footsteps outside of the trailer. Starting from the front of the trailer and stopping right in front of the window. The first time it happend they were only there for about 3 minutes before we heard the footsteps continue and disappear, we woke my brother up and he walked around the trailer looking for anyone. He said it was probably just one of the cats but me and my sister both agree it was heavy human footsteps. Not tiny cat steps. When my mom came home in the morning we told her about it and she said it probably wouldn't happen again but it was creepy. It kept happening over and over again and I would keep track of the time that they stood outside of the window and it kept getting longer and longer. It was disturbing you could hear the person breathing some nights, or shifting their weight from one foot to the other. Some nights we would go get my brother as soon as we heard the steps and he would run outside and no one would be there, other nights we would call my mom and she would come check on us at 3. One night my sister had fallen asleep early and I was the only one awake when the footsteps came, this night I heard something being moved around on the ground under the window. It kinda sounded like something being dropped or tripped over, this scared the shit out of me so I walked over to the window and yelled that I was calling the cops, but I didn't hear anything. I called my mom and she still had 30 minutes before she went on break and I waited the entire time by the window waiting for the footsteps to start again, my mom drives a loud car with bright blue headlights so it's a dead giveaway when she's coming home because you can hear her and see the blue through the windows. This person must have done this enough to recognise it because the footsteps started and I heard them sprinting away. Like 5 seconds later I hear my mom running around the house, she came inside and said she didn't see anyone, but it's insane to me because she barely missed them. Maybe that was a good thing though. In the morning we found that the paneling underneath my mom's window had been pulled off and there was a huge gaping hole showing underneath our trailer. My mom eventually got a different job and it stopped happening as soon as she was there at night. It's creeps me the hell out thinking about it, especially because we never got closure. And yeah we called the cops once but they basically said it's not illegal to walk around at night and it's probably nothing.
Princess Moonlight that’s really fucked. Also, it’s an odd coincidence that I’m reading this from the front room of my trailer. How creepily fitting.
I decided not to read this because i live in a trailer park. I’m too scared
The hole sounds like someone might’ve either been storing stuff under your trailer or living there secretly. Very creepy!
here is my advice to you,STOP watching scary movies late at night! lol i think your mind was playing tricks on you. hopefully u really werent being stalked.
I believe you/ but to me it sounds like the person was really good at getting out of sight quickly. They probably just wanted to take shelter under your home. Just make sure to learn how to ward off intruders by making things uncertain to them. Cause they’re less likely to bother you if you’re in an unpredictable house. Meaning that you put out things to scare them. Like sensor lights, cameras, security protection signs, fake cameras. Get a dog. Even a small one will make a lot of noise. Having kids toys outside will make them less likely to come near cause they wouldn’t wanna trip on them. There’s tons of stuff you can do as well. Just research. Stay safe!
PLEASE. DO. MORE. OF. THESE.
Also the hotel IS haunted. It's the hotel "American Horror Story Hotel" is based off of. Look it up, her death is only one of MANY! Def paranormal if you ask me.
ALSO, its possible she was pressing so many buttons because she was trying to confuse whoever was following her. Example: press button 1-4-7-9-12-15 blah blah blah and get off on a random floor so if anyone is trying to track what floor you're going to, it's difficult if the elevator is stopping multiple times.
The Langley Life .mmmmjm)pp]pmkm
There was also this theory that she was playing this one korean (?) elevator game, I remember reading about. But the AHSH wasn't based on that hotel contrary to popular belief, it was another hotel, But Cecil hotel had a lot of serial killers staying there etc.
Btw the Jamison’s dog lived and was fine after getting found :)
Becca Jean ......hows he/she doin now
Thats the one of the 3 family members in the woods? always the best news when the doggo makes it!
Woah that’s me
@@alexishamel7843 how dare you assume its a he or she. Maybe ita a they
No No how funny
Julien: "I hope you're not eating..."
Me: slowly stops chewing pasta.......
I love julien at 17:31 where he goes “as a meth user “ and then just stops talking
The background combined with your clothes makes it look like you guys are in a horror camping movie.
SuperChivasLover Lol!
SuperChivasLover *Jason appears in the background*
Sleep away camp!
Wolf Creek Part 2!!!
This went from 0 to Shane Dawson real quick
Sjondel “hey what’s up you guys, YES”
That's how it should've started!
This is the best comment I’ve seen yet!
I read that as Julien imitating Shane.
Sjondel FOR THE 100th TIME. SHANE-DIDN’T-INVENT-CONSPIRACY-THEORIES 🖕🏼🖕🏼
Wasn’t it also found later on that water tank case that she had a tumblr account and had written a bunch of posts indicating that she felt she was being followed by someone days before it happened?
UM SEND ME THE LINK
Sierra yes
So maybe she was being stalked/harassed by someone at the hotel? Perhaps exacerbating her mental illness and causing her erratic behaviour. A hotel employee could have gotten her through those alarmed doors and into the water tank. Such a sad story...
Look up David Paulides missing 411 interviews...specifically on Elisa Lam's case....your minds WILL BE BLOWN😵😮😲
Her name is Elisa Lam. Let's have a little respect.
Jenna: why would a cult leader wanna kill their members??
Me: YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF JONESTOWN JENNA??? HELLo!
That's is very true, that actually happens often.
Or heavens gate.
I haven’t, someone explain 😂😬
EB I’m a little late but whatever
Heaven’s gate and Jonestown were both mass suicides committed by cults. Jonestown was kool aid laced with cyanide. heaven’s gate members died within the span of a few days with various alcohols and chemicals. Cult leaders will draw as many people as they can in and often end up killing themselves and their most loyal members. Also, if someone tried to leave a cult, the leader might get violent and try to take them out to keep the “secrets”.
There was an instance where a cult leader told the members they had drank poison, but they hadn’t. He was doing a test run to see which of the members panicked, and kicked them out, keeping the most loyal members for the actual suicide days later. (I don’t remember which cult it was)
Yeah I feel like cults end in death more often than not
This is random, but the way Jenna has changed over the last 5-10 years is insane. Looking at her back in 2011-2013 vs. now is CRAZY. Her personality is so different, in a good way! Julien is so good for you, boo.
boo. let's bring back boo
Havent they been together for 9 years though.. why is her progression of personality based on a man instead of a woman living her life..
@@tacosandwh0rechata amen
@@tacosandwh0rechata Is she not living her life with him? WOuldnt her main relationship also shape things in her own worldviews?
I was just rewatching her old videos to compare her to now!!! So true!
*sees title of video*
*longest hell yeah ever*
ahhh hell yeuhhhhhhhh
You said it sister/brother!
rachmors same 😂😂
Julien: We’re obviously not gonna solve these
Jenna: *SOLVES THE ENTIRE MANDELA EFFECT* (probably)
Watching this in 2020 and crying over Ad and Jenna it’s fine
Same :,)
Ikr I just have to pretend that it's still 2018 and none of this year has happened yet and the podcast is still going and I can actually leave the house
Me in 2021 😅😭
me in 2022... I miss Jenna 😭
2023 😢
You know you spend too much time on the internet when you’re familiar with all of these mysteries before watching this podcast lol
am i the only one that gets hella paranoid watching these even though they’re not ghost stories??
Melanie ME
SAME I moved my whole body so none of me was hanging off my bed. I’m scared.
It makes me feel better seeing recent comments
I'm glad I'm not alone 😂
Yes! I keep getting scared of the noises in my house eeee!
Watching old podcasts to fill the Jenna sized hole in my heart 👁💧👄💧👁
I came here after the Skinwalker podcast. And that part from 7:15 - 7:23 freaked me out coz that bark sounded weird AF!
Ikr
same
I can’t with that one!! I was yelling at my phone
Kitty Nippz OH MY GOD SAME
sorry I just got freaked out bc that’s exactly what I did🙃
Kitty Nippz you’re tweaking
"I like stuff like this cause it's not dark. Nobody disappeared... well some guy did but he's probably fine."
I fucking love you guys
Imagine if that Taured guy disappeared from the room, and woke up in his bed. His dream was our reality.
hey, stop that
it’s too late for this matey
STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPP I NEED TO GO TO BED LMAO!! YOU HURT MY MIND...
my brain just went boom
Noooiiice
when he snapped his fingers and said: "disintegrated"... ha this came out months before Infinity War
Julien gives us no consolation in the transition to each story “the next ones fucked” 💀
I was feeling like shit today, thank you for existing.
turn that frown upside down
sending love and positivity your way woooooooooooosh
Sara S. you are cared for 💕
sending a biiiig virtual hug your way
i’ve been waiting at the doctors office all day, at least now i have something to watch while i wait :’) jenna & julien are great. hope you feel better!
Weird weird weird Jenna ua-cam.com/video/mcq-gVgmBsY/v-deo.html
There needs to be another podcast with Shane where you guys talk about creepy things/conspiracies
Lumos /* I feel like I've been waiting for this for years
When they were talking about alternate dimensions
“Do you really think this world is real? You’d have to be an idiot not to notice all the sloppy details” -Rick Sanchez
Hear me out on my theory about Elisa and the Cecil hotel for a sec. So I’ve read in quite a few places (this comment section included) that the hotel was known to be in a pretty bad area of town a and that there were one or two crazy people in the area known to the hotel for following young women in there. Something I’m pretty sure a hotel would never want the public finding out about. So, let’s say Elisa is followed into the hotel by one of these guys and there’s no one at the reception to help her out so she gets in the elevator and tries to get to her room, but sometimes hotel elevators tell you which floor has been chosen on the outside, so the guy following her goes up the stairs to the floor she chooses, and when she goes to step out he is there, so she gets back in and chooses a bunch of floors so he can’t see which she has chosen but inevitably it opens at the next floor and he is there again. She stays in the elevator and he knows there are cameras in there so he doesn’t follow (he’s done this before maybe) he just stays out there pressing the call button for the elevator to stop the doors from closing. She hangs out the door and has an interaction with him but we don’t see what she says because the hotel have clearly doctored the footage, taken angles where you’d see her killer out and pixelated her mouth so you can’t see what she is saying to him. Eventually she gives up and gets out the elevator, perhaps at gunpoint er threat and is made to go to the roof with him, he forces her to get naked and kills her then throws her into the water tank, throws her belongings in after her and removes the ladder, replacing it where her got it from. When the hotel realises there is a body in the tank, they check all the footage, see this shit go down and realise they are culpable for not having someone on the front desk, and for not doing something about this guy who is chasing their customers, so doctors the tape, not handing over any footage to the police where you can see the guy (or again maybe he knew where the cameras were so avoided them) to make it look like she is talking to herself, claims she is crazy and fashions the whole thing into a mystery.
This is an amazing hypothesis, I’ve always been so confused about the Elisa Story!
@@Raleighfromdallas Thanks. Yeah and the more I watch about her, the more it makes sense - someone who worked there made a comment saying that they never put people on reception at night, even though they were supposed to because they were struggling for money. I also heard, since writing this that the police DIDN’T get all the footage - they didn’t get the footage of her coming through the hotel lobby! Now they are raking cash in from visitors and ghost hunters coming to visit and it’s boosting their sales to sell her story as if she were crazy!
This is the best theory I've heard yet! 👏🏽 @CB GB
@@sigh-ruh more and more, I’m convinced that this is how it went down.
Home alone and freaking the fuck out! But yall have to do more of these lol
that one dislike is jacksfilms
Love seeing how people are coming back to this video as spooky season begins again.
"Why are they barking?"
*Immediately thinks of skinwalkers*
"big methy meth fight"
I NEED A PART 2 AND A PART 3 AND MORE!! Scrolling through that twitter thread was mind-blowing and terrifying. I need J&J's opinions on all of these mysteries
Can we get another unsolved mysteries podcast!!! I’ve watched this at least 20 time! I need more!
when you remember that Jenna has a degree in Psychology. Also what if the elevator door didn't close because she kept blocking the door every five seconds?
Joanna Miakisz she kept pressing the button
It would make sense as well if she accidentally kept hitting the open door button or the button for the same floor she was on.
Carly Quinn I believe that the open/close elevator door buttons haven’t worked since the 80’s (?) I cant remember exact details I heard this in a lecture about mechanical practicality in modern buildings or something like that, correct me if I’m wrong (:
@@elliew9464 they work in the hotel i work at! can press them to make the doors close early or stay open (: in Canada tho!
I watched a video that said the elevator had a button that if you pressed it the doors would stay open for 2 minutes and it looked like she pressed that button when she first went in
Y'all should make a pillow fort and do a podcast in it. Like it could either be a fun nice cozy one or a conspiracy one like yes fam scare the shit out of us while being comfy
Allie Marie fort cast 2k18
Yes please that is such a good idea 👌😍
Allie Marie Yes!
Yessssss. Then we could all make our own forts and feel like the whole dinkfam is having the dopest slumber party.
dream corner cast?? :)
Kinda late here but for the first theory....my dad used to be a heavy meth user. His delusions were crazy. And he would try to convince me of these delusions and go to great lengths to prove to me that they were true. He would talk about people following him, planting poison in his food/polluting his air. He once thought the neighbors were spying on us and stood on a table to look over the fence, the table fell through and he cracked his head open. Meth causes such crazy dilutions I can see them leaving the money during a delusion and running from "someone watching them". Maybe getting lost in the woods, or being so "strung out" after the high they slept there until they died. My dad could sleep for a full week after doing meth. Or they could have overdosed. Idk but it is definitely drug related, I don't think it was a murder.
I know this comment is old, but there was actually no evidence saying the Jamison’s (the first family) EVER did meth. This is misinformation on Jenna and Juliens part.
My boyfriends friend got mixed up with meth. And on Halloween we decided to take him to our favorite park and hold an intervention for him. During the intervention he told us that it was actually December 25th and that we had been living the same day over and over again. He said the only way he was keeping any of us alive was by doing these crazy hand movements that he thought were spells. When we dropped him off at his house before he got out of the car he looked us all in the eyes and said someone’s gonna die in a sing song voice before looking at one of our other friends and saying it’s you and then running into his house. Needless to say we don’t talk to him much anymore.
@@gabbyaros893 that sounds horrifying
My only thing about the meth overdose theory is that I don’t think they would also force the daughter to do meth with them and die in that position.
The amount of money they had, they could have been really strung out. Like really really strung out. (Idk if they did drugs or not, I'd never heard of this case before. But theres something called Folie à deux, which is shared delusions. If you've ever heard of the Tromp case, it's kinda similar.) but the kid wouldn't go far if the parents passed away. I know its depressing to think about, but she wouldn't have any idea what to do, I think she'd stay, dead parents or not. But i still see it being a murder suicide thing or a drug related murder more than that. Youd have to really be out of your right mind to out your child in danger ya know. The whole situation is so sad, especially thinking about how it could have been solved if they'd found them sooner 😕
Watching these is like a liminal space thing, cus I know Jenna is off the internet now but also I remember her being on it for so long.
Jenna’s so pretty and always has been
I literally just looked for another conspiracy podcast and then u upload THIS
HELL YEAAAH!!!
Julia luckyyyy 😁😁
Listen to mile high podcast, they are only starting but are doing their best
Check out “Bizarre States” , “Expanded Perspectives” , “Stuff They Don’t Want You To Know” and “Lizard People : Comedy & Conspiracy Theories” ....I’m a podcast addict lol
ohhh yesss thanks fellow podcast addict haha
oooo yes I love Kendall, I'll be sure to check it out
Can you do more google deep dives ?
Lowkey through out the whole podcast I thought the shadow from Julien’s mic was a stain on his sweatshirt. Smh I need to go to bed
OMG. You solved that mystery for me 😅
I fell asleep listening to this podcast and had some weird ass dreams
Where is my conspiracy podcast with Shane???
yes please!!!!!!!!
I'm not sure if he'll do those anymore since last time he did a conspiracy video someone tried to ruin his reputation and career.
0Flow0 literally WHAT are you talking about? This person was referring to Shane being a guest on J&J podcast. If you’re referring to Shane’s creepy videos (not a podcast?) he still makes them? He made one just a few weeks ago? And if you’re referring to Bobby Burns diss video about Shane’s conspiracies you clearly need to visit Shane’s channel because him and Bobby are friends now. And like I said, Shane hasn’t stopped making those videos. So literally what the fuck are you talking about
Sophie AndImTired I think they are referring to the person who alleged Shane was a pedophile.
Shane still does conspiracies not as often but I feel he would love to do them with j and j
OK I was hoping you'd look at Elisa Lam. I looked into it a lot since I relate to her and because of how tragic it is. As Jenna said, bipolar disorder is both a mood disorder and a psychotic disorder, with psychosis more common in manic episodes. From the toxicology reports we know that she had been taking her anti depressants but not her anti psychotics - this is a formula for a severe manic episode. This was likely because she had this big trip planned and didn't want her depression ruining it. That in my opinion explains her strange behaviour, although I know a lot of people disagree.
Also, in the research I did, it appears the water tank is not as inaccessible as some reports claim. The pictures out there also are from an angle where you can't see the way to get up there - there is access. People have worked out the weight of the lid and it's light enough for one woman to open it factoring in the hinge. Also, people have gone back to the hotel to see whether they could get on the roof and they could do it with no issue. This was something that I would say was the hotel covering their back - they claimed it was impossible for guests to access the roof so they wouldn't be liable, when it is possible that a staff member just left a door/window open that should have been kept locked for example.
The fact that the door stayed open - she needed glasses and wasn't wearing them. This could be due to the bipolar thinking she doesn't need them. But she ended up mashing buttons because of this. Many elevators have a hold button that will keep the doors open for a while, for example for some staff needs this may be handy. I think she pressed this and it was a sick coincidence that it closed just as she left. It may have saved her life otherwise. Since the doors weren't closing, she thought she'd find her own way up to her room and ended up using the service ladders outside, and got on the roof. From there her psychosis explains why she wanted to get in the water tank. Who knows what she was thinking, and a manic person's thinking doesn't necessarily make sense outside of that state of mind.
She seems like an amazing young woman who met a terribly tragic end. I wish she was still with us.
Cee Zed I think you nailed it
I have to agree, this makes the most sense to me. My best friend (who has bipolar disorder) has shared some of his experiences with me, and I'll just say that psychotic episodes can be terrifying and make you do seemingly bizarre and dangerous things
that doesnt explain why she was naked and had all of her belongings though
I mean it kind of does. If she's having a manic episode, maybe she decided she wanted to go swimming so she took her clothes off? I think that her clothes and stuff being with her in the tank isn't that strange when you consider a manic episode. It also could easily have been put in their with her body if someone killed her.
Same, my friend has Bipolar II and has experienced psychosis episodes where she was convinced that a man was hiding under her bed. Pretty scary stuff... and I don't know- it is probable that Elisa made it up to the roof and decided to go into the tank willingly (for what reason we may never know). Once she was inside, it may have been more difficult for her to push the tank cover upwards. From there maybe she decided to take off her clothes /lose the weight of them in order to get out. I don't know.That case is upsetting for many reasons...
I like the second I saw Julien's hair. Love the natural color and that cut
These are the podcasts I miss the most, love the spooky ones
Another thing I noticed about watching the elevator footage, was she CLEARLY pressed the “open door” button multiple times. I 100% believe she was out of it enough to not realize she was the reason the doors wouldn’t close. They do finally close when she walks away because enough time had passed for that bypass to finish. If you haven’t seen the footage I strongly urge you to. I absolutely smell foul play, and EXTREMELY creepy shit happening, but the doors, I have to say, are her fault.
M E a year later but someone said that the open/close buttons on those elevators didn’t work but they could be work
Aren't the open and close button the same one?
That’s what I thought! If she was pressing a shit ton of buttons she could have made it that the doors just stayed open.
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 not on the ones I’ve been on
The death of Elisa Lam absolutely freaks me out and the video footage is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. But I did some research and now I am pretty convinced that she had a manic episode and climbed into the water tank by herself (for whatever reason, probably hallucination or maybe "just for fun" in her mind). Here are some things I found answers to:
- why was the elevator door not closing?
very simple explanation: by looking outside all the time she was constantly triggering the sensor that caused the door to stay open. Obviously it closed once she walked out and no one was triggering the sensor anymore.
- why does the video footage seem altered?
This is just a theory but there might have been another person with her in the elevator at some point (who then walked out again because they were scared by her behavior) who had absolutely nothing to do with her death. Naturally the police wanted to protect the identity of that person because obviously the public would have developed wild theories without any actual proof to back them up (which obviously backfired).
- how did she get into the water tank?
Contrary to popular belief there actually was a ladder on the tank, like a fire escape or something. And the lid itself wasn't impossible to lift either. And she would have totally been able to lift it, especially under the high influence of adrenaline caused by her manic phase. There is a video by a chinise vlogger who visited the hotel, climbed on the roof (without any alarm going off), he went to "her" water tank and the lid was even OPEN. So it certainly doesn't seem impossible anymore.
- why were her clothes floating next to her?
It's likely that the lid closed itself (because of gravity) after she opened it a little and slid through. So at some point shortly after she must have realized that she'd made a huge mistake. Or maybe she didn't and her following actions were just out of instinct. You might know that wet clothes are extremely heavy. That's why when she jumped into the water tank and her clothes were basically causing her to drown, her first instinct was obviously to take them off. The cause of her death was drowning after all. Opening the lid from inside would have been impossible after a while she must have ran out of energy to continue swimming and just drowned. The saddest part to me is that her manic episode might have been over at this point, so she might have been clear again, and there she was, trapped in a water tank where nobody would hear her scream for help. This is horrible.
My sources for this were the wikipedia page and a reddit post that linked to the toxicology report and other documents.
On a different note: I think the story about the man from Taurid is totally made up. There is no official proof of any of this ever happening and the only source for this is a magazine (or book) that appeared in the last century that was about urban legends. So... doesn't seem legit to me at all. It's a fun story though.
Sorry about any grammar mistakes, english is not my first language. I hope it's still somewhat readable.
you are right about much of this. The lid was only 20 lbs (it was a hatch), and once inside, it was unreachable. It was found OPEN not closed. There was a ladder outside where it could be reached for maintenance, but there was not one inside (because why would you need it)? And yes, as she became exhausted and cold she might've taken off her clothes. Because like how a fever can make us feel freezing since our bodies are burning, if you're freezing to death, your body will feel like it's on fire. and you will rid yourself of clothing.
It's also somewhat common to take your clothes off if you get hypothermia because you feel overheated as the body tries to warm up and in a dilutional state, you try to cool off. So if the water in the tank was cold, that could explain why she was naked
thats some good English. 100% readable. great job
Thank you for this. I like J&J but there are plenty of very practical explanations for Elisa Lam's death and I think it's a bad practice to completely ignore them in favor for pure speculation. I think with many things it's better to use Occam's Razor and just recognize that it's much more probable that this woman, with a history of a mental delusions, having the exact conditions needed to trigger a manic episode, managed to accidentally kill herself. It's not really that out there.
@@chumuheha this hotel is notorious for holding a serial killer and rapists. For all we know, Lam was fighting with a custodian who has access to the elevator, security footage, water tower.
Miss this podcast so much. 💕
It’s very rare to have multi-sense hallucinations, you usually only see them or hear them, not both
I could have been severe schizophrenia by its self or mixed with meth or some hallucinogenic drugs
I need more of these!! I'm literally drooling for more! That last one was awesome holy shit
devsox1 you might like the vanished podcast
Check out the channel Alyssa Nicole true crime!
Guys, the man from taured is an urban legend. It resembles a famous book, and there’s no evidence of it actually happening. No concrete evidence of the event at all.
It’s a sci-fi story from the 1982 book A Directory of Possibilities people are just assuming is real with no evidence. It is easy to debunk since no Japanese authority has a record of it happening and no newspaper reported it.
Anna I know, I read that in the comments. I knew it was too good to be true lol
Meth users also don't sleep or eat for days on end, like 5,6, 7 days sometimes. And that is what causes the delusions. Meth also lasts a really long time. Around 6-8 hours or more depends how much you do. They were probably on a long 6 day meth binge running on no sleep and no food and suuuuuper paranoid, tried to "escape" with everything they had. Daughter, dog, cash. Such a sad story, tho :/
Daggeira I thought they said the tests were inconclusive, ie bodies were too decomposed to get any results
I don't know why you were talking about Elisa when the main comment is about the family that Julien was talking about (two parents and their daughter Madison). You never said Elisa
Not sure on the toxicology stuff....might have been too late to tell also. If it was meth, tho...that's my thought on it for sure. Feel so bad for the little girl
44:57 were literally constantly switching realities by making decisions in our lives because there could be one decision where the outcome is death but you somehow managed to avoid that by making a different decision
I realize this is 5 months late, but is that truly switching to a new reality or is it simply altering one reality? (I don’t know how I feel about the whole alternate reality theory: real or not?)
When Julien said “i hope your not eating” i was in the middle of biting my hot Cheeto.
Jillian D I was eating a burrito
Jessica Maria even worse 😂
I was eating jalapeño cheetos...
IffySquishy ME TOO
i was making a flutter nutter :’)
I CAME AS FAST AS I COULD IM READY FOR THESE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES
SAME! Probably my favourite topic ever!! :D :D
miss this podcast sm, and jenna. watching episodes is like hanging out hanging out with old friends
The Jamison family I think they might’ve gotten into an argument. That would explain why the money, phone, and dog were all left in the car. If She walked off with their daughter he could’ve chased after them. What if the drugs made things escalate. Sherilyn had enough and shot him, with the reality of what she had done setting in, she allows her and her daughter to die in a Murder-Suicide scenario. If someone else was involved, the money would’ve been gone in my opinion.
YO THAT PASSPORT ONE FUCKED ME UP BUT I LOVE IT
EmilyIsFantastic21 there's a movie based off of this story, it's called The Terminal, with Tom Hanks, really fucking good
It is based on a different story of Mehran Karimi Nasseri, not the Taurend one.
Diana Holland and? Either way its a good story.
Kristina Ortiz ok but she said its based on this story which its not????
Probably just a secret agent that lied his way out of getting caught.
Jenna's face the whole time Julien is speaking is me
I'm freakin out but I can't stop watching
Hey guys I’m a biopsych major ♥️
My mom has bipolar depressive disorder and my best friend was diagnosed with it as well last year after he had a sober hallucination and cut his hand in half. I have to say that hallucinations and even “hearing” auditory sounds definitely can happen to people who have untreated bipolar disorder.
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Edit: Jenna explained that later in episode, thank you Jenna for double checking your information!
The black dahlia killer stayed at the Cecil hotel. Also many people have died there including someone who jumped out of the window. They had to put bars on windows so people would stop jumping. It’s since renamed “stay on main”. I went there to check it out Halloween 2017 and the gentleman at the desk suggested I don’t stay there. They also blocked off the elevator so that no one could use it. The remaining guests were actually long term guests who live there and the owner had to wait out their leases until they move out to finally close it down in 2018. The hotel was super creepy and had very suspicious ownership circumstances. She couldn’t have shut the latch behind her also which is a huge point of creepiness! The story is really sad!
wow i love buzzfeed unsolved, ryan and shane who?
leo It’s the best. ❤️
Dinks unsolved???
*Wheeze*
ryan bergara and shane madej
leo I love Buzzfeed Unsolved; it's so good
Julien lookin like a SNACC
Joshua Hamilton he s my snack back off loser 😘😘😘
Jesus Christ Jesus Christ thirsty much (jk)
yaassssss
Man I miss this podcast. Twas the best one on the interwebs EVER. So glad I can rewatch all of these tho so thank you so much for leaving them up. Love to the Solomita/Mourey bunch xx
I miss you so much Jenna. Wish you knew how needed your presence is on UA-cam. ❤️
I have a conspiracy theory that Jenna wants everyone to get EXCITED about their LIFE
Ben Jen DUNNA NA DUNNA na naaaaahhh
Ben Jen 😂😂😳
Way to lighten the mood! Haha
Deffiently more !!!!! This was one of my fave podcasts - 💋💗💗
saameeeeee !!!!!!!
Definitely
Real Bride Of Chucky same im so into this shit
Real Bride Of Chucky yes, same!
How do you fuck that word up so badly????
But I agree. Deffiently more!
I know most of you feel the same way I do that Jenna is gone and that this podcast is gone. I appreciate not being alone in that and appreciate that I'm not the only one back at this video. Whenever my life is falling apart I come back to their old videos.
"yo soy peligro" meaning "I am danger"
Jenna is so intelligent 🤗 use that psychology otter
Jessica Kasten
Dr. Otter :3
Caroline Sine I love that! 🤗
Buzzfeed Unsolved is quaking
shedyouryell0w *wheezes in cermet*
I came here from a bfu video 😂 it was in the recommended
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Rewatching al of the old episodes because it’s been a month and I’m already missing this 😢
Me binging these just to see jenna again and smile at her and julen being cute and happy
JULIEN LOOKS SOOOO GOOD
Carina de Jesus yum yummmmm daddyy
Snacc
JennA kinda looks like eminem. Jeninem x
I always thought the samee thing, I noticed without makeup she looked like somebody to me. Then I finally realized it was Eminem.
as always
julien: *moves mike enthusiastically*
jenna: wHat aRe yoU DoInG
carnalflowers who is mike
I'm mike
i thought i was mike
No, IM mike
I AM MIKE.
I love rewatching my favorite podcasts :) i hope you all are doing well I love you :))
Jenna's head looks so tiny while Julien's head is MASSIVE
That’s all I can see now lmao
Here's an unsolved mystery: THAT CROOKED PIN RACK!
Was solved right then and there.
OHHHHHHHHHH!
Apparently the toxicology report showed that she was taking her antidepressants (one the day of death, the other recently but not the day of), but hadn't been taking her mood stabilizers. Someone with bipolar disorder who takes antidepressants by themselves can push the person into a manic episode. I believe they also found on her blog/social media that she had been very depressed within the past few days, so it's entirely possible that she stopped the mood stabilizers because she /wanted/ to be manic, so she wouldn't be so depressed. Also, the physical strength thing: it's been documented that, during a manic episode, people with bipolar disorder can show absurd physical strength (kind of like with adrenaline and people being able to do crazy shit like lift cars because their kid was stuck under it), so it is entirely possible that she found some way up there, got in, and for whatever reason closed the lid. Maybe she thought she was hiding in there :(
Hakuna Matata My father was diagnosed as bipolar after a car accident (I think he always was and brain damage worsened it), and there were plenty of times I thought he was actually schizophrenic especially if he stopped taking his meds. When he would get manic he was always super paranoid about a multitude of things, and had occasional hallucinations. One time he accused me of being in porn even though I had only just turned 17, and the girl’s picture he showed me looked nothing like me. Didn’t even have the same hair or eye color. Used to think there was something wrong with the local waterways. One time he thought he saw a dead body in the woods by the creek near our house. He ran in the house, freaking out and telling us to cal the cops because there’s a dead guy in the woods. Called the cops, and there was nothing there. Stuff like that. I could 100% believe that she was having an intense manic episode, went into the water tank to hide, and then couldn’t get back out.
The only other possible conclusion is that she was put there by someone else, but that would be a really dumb way to try to get away with murder, as she would obviously be found and there are plenty of cameras in hotels. Nobody ever found footage of anyone possibly following her, or showing up on other cameras in the same spots as her to the best of my knowledge. I also don’t think there was any evidence of sexual assault or a physical struggle either.
That’s a really good theory. I thought of that as well. But I don’t understand how come it never mentioned if other people were around or not. Like you’d think someone would be. It also doesn’t explain the elevator not going. Unless she was hitting the open door button or the same floor button and it wouldn’t move cause of that. And how come her mouth was blurred when she was talking. Those are some weird points
It’s still a little strange that her belongings were floating next to her. Why would she undress before climbing in. And how come the lid was on after wards. I think the bipolar manic theory is the most believable but each theory with this story always has one or two things that don’t quite add up and I think that’s what makes it so strange
Wrong.
Luna the undressing thing can be explained because there’s a phone call of someone who is bipolar and goes into a manic episode and over the 911 call the wife is screaming at her husband (the one who is having the breakdown) to put on his clothes because he started stripping.
finding episodes of the podcast i haven’t see means even more now 🥺
“Methy meth fight” I want a shirt that says that
When I woke up today, I told myself that I was going to go to sleep early tonight. That was, in fact, a lie.
It's two AM and I'm on my third one of these creepy ass podcasts wHy Do I dO tHiS tO mYsElF
Rhi Is A Bean WAIT YES ME TOO 2:30am I’m supposed to wake up at 4:45 for a series of plane rides with like 170000000000000 layovers. I fuckin hate myself.
Rhi Is A Bean *melatonin.*
I do the same thing almost every night
Rhi Is A Bean sameeeeee
2 am isnt that late. I was gona go to bed early by going to bed before 5 am. Its now 7 55