Day of Defeat: Source | Valve's neglected WW2 Shooter | Dead Game Review
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2024
- One of Valve's best multiplayer shooters! Day of Defeat Source was always a great game to me, but sadly a not much played game in my library, as many of my friends had interests in other experiences.
Today, in this episode of Dead Game Review, we take a gander at this overlooked Valve property, a game many consider to be a blend of Team Fortress and Counter Strike, a property that even got a spiritual successor from fans of the original but not much love from the company that conceived it.
I hope you enjoy this look into Day of Defeat Source!
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*nobody will talk about day of defeat + brotherhood of arms combonation = Battlefield Style Valve Software Game.* what a glory times man.
I absolutely love WW2 games like Medal of Honor, but this game is no doubt THE best multiplayer game. The fun is endless and I can't stop for hours.
I feel like the lack of a timer is responsible for making it extremely realistic at portraying WW2. It feels like you literally are going through 1000s of soldiers just to take one single objective. That to me, along with the rest of the freedom the game gives you, is what makes it so immersive for hours. Learning a new map is very overwhelming as a new player, and then slowly becomes immensely rewarding the more you realize how sightlines/flanks line up. (even with mini map it isn't clear where hidden sniper nests are on every map). It really feels like it was ahead of its time in 3d map design.
Agreed!
You may not see this comment but I just recently got into it. The base gameplay is just so perfect I love playing as all classes
I love ww2 history and video games bro
Rising storm 2 is a better WW2 shooter
Hardly dead, I still play this and the original and yeah the community’s small but we’re all committed and play consistently. Hands down my favourite 2 games of all time
exactly. ive never stopped playing lol i cant find several full servers 24 hours a day all week still. thats not a dead game.
Still not dead!!
Game is not considered dead by a definition unless there are fewer players than the server can hold
Still addicted to this game even after like 17 years
Best times!
Seeing the spray on the wall gave me chills… I miss source days
Can you still play it?
Yes
@@daddy4days571 hahaha omg i forgot about the spray, i used to spray memes of al gore saying OMG DID YOU POLUTE !?!?!
I loved playing this game with my classmates back in 2006. We were in a year-long Navy medical training (SFIDC School) and would set up our laptops for network play during long breaks and lunchtime. "ARTILLERY VERIECHT!" BOOM!
That sounds like heaps of fun!
They really need to make like day of defeat 2 or something, this game is super good and it showcased capabilities of source engine well, would be nice if they woulda either make a new game or a remake on source 2
Day of defeat: global offensive
With Valve about to release Counter-Strike 2 it'll be a good marketing move for them to work next on remaking Day of Defeat and Team Fortress into the Source 2 engine. DOD can reach out to the history nerds audience and those who coming from other FPS fandoms like COD and Battlefield. It could also serve to one-up the competition with Valorant which is itself aiming towards a wider and diverse target market
They should go through hard competition against Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum if that ever gonna happen
@@hafizo_kurosaki eehh it depends, both games are set in waaaay much larger maps and people waitin 3 hours to get an objetive, for players that enjoy inmersion and really have the time for long match is good at it
but day of defeat is more a arcade game like, you hop on on a server and start killing whoever crosses on your path, simple as that, small maps 3 or 5 objetives and thats all
also theres a WW2 game that is basically DOD 2.0 it called day of infamy its really fun to play i recomend to check it out
HLL and PS (one of those is now Squad 44, I forget which) are more tactical style games, DoD is more Arcade-esc like CoD with quick respawning and near-constant action. The only real comparison is the trio are WW2 shooter games.
HLL and PS (one of those is now Squad 44, I forget which) are more tactical style games, DoD is more Arcade-esc like CoD with quick respawning and near-constant action. The only real comparison is the trio are WW2 shooter games. DoD source is truly a timeless classic. Played it as a kid, played it a few months ago, still as much fun then as now.
You've convinced me to finally try Day Of Defeat: Source soon. Though I am a bit sad you didn't touch more on the loud and proud sound design of the guns in the game. Amazing video production and TIGHT commentary as always though!
Very glad you enjoyed! And yeah for dead game review format Videos I tend to focus on everything else... But you are right, day of defeat is a downright CHAOTIC experience. Especially when you hear that rocket coming towards you...
@@Cheecken Agreed! Its a shame games that have followed in the games footsteps are DEAD DEAD. Day Of Infamy for example its pretty much on its last legs or grave. Something about Day Of Defeat has the curse to be a dying/dead game. Its crazy to me how the source version is more alive than its Day Of Infamy counterpart.
@@splashlemon2966 Day of Infamy is a very interesting case. I bought the game too and only mentioned but didn't go into detail with it as it is a game I am interested in covering soon. I think a big reason for why that game couldn't succeed, was that it went deeper into the simulation esque nature of hardcore shooters like Red Orchestra 2.
Day of Defeat is hard to describe, as it is hardcore, but also kind of not. It is a very simple experience that is easy to get into but hard to stay alive in. I think Day of Defeat Source just scratches a very specific itch, which Day of Infamy doesn't.
But this doesn't detract from Day of Infamy, I think the environment design and art direction of that title is picturesque to say the least, with the entire game feeling like taking place inside of a propaganda enlistment poster. I hope I can drum people together to play that one for a good few days, but I think that one will predominantly make use of bots for recording. And convincing people to buy a game that noone plays is always a hard sell :/
@@Cheecken Bots in Day of Infamy SUCK as well so damn I wish you the best of luck in that regard.
@@Cheecken You mentioned other game that sadly is dead, or dying, Red Orchestra 2. It still maintains a small community but doesn't compare to the old days.
Played the original for years. Was a member of the RIP clan and then later 36ID under the screen name “Aleutian” until they disbanded. Spent many late nights playing map after map. When source came out I of course purchased it and played it a ton, but the original will always be my favorite game released by Valve, way too many good memories.
Hey man I used to play on the RIP server all the time, this is my main game, never played anything has good has i played dod 1.3 😂
I played this back in the beta 2.0 HL mod days. This really was one of the best first person shooters ever! This was one of the games that I could play all night and never get bored with. The community of players was great too. Some of the best team play I've ever experienced in a game was in this one! The maps were some of the best designed that I've ever played in how they were very push heavy and you had to fight and work as a team to move the line back. A lot of modern day first person shooters could learn a lot about gameplay from it!
The original day of defeat was the best game imo. The sniping was incredible. Cooking grenades,popping around a corner , throwing a grenade point blank in someone's face was really fun to do. It was easy to die. Knifing took one hit. Koln was my favourite but it was removed. I spent alot time playing it. Getting behind enemy lines made a difference. I miss it alot
Agree with everything you said, except for map choice 😂 liked Harrigton. Yes 1.3 was a real skill based game, much better than source. I hope they remake it and leave everything alone just better grafics ofc
1.3 > any WW2 game ever made
Great Recap
As an addition, DoD:S had a vibrant competitive scene, at least in Europe. There were quite a lot of tournaments (ESL, Clanbase, various cups), and it even got featured in the Electronic Major League for 2 seasons. Competitive DoD:S was a great time.
It was a great game with a strong community, still really lacking a real successor. Kinda miss those days
I saw you recording some gameplay in the 6th RB server, and I now I've stumbled onto the video! Very cool!
If it is the server I believe it was, I had much fun! I love the servers where the community is more talkative :)
There is no levelling system so if you get bored you can just quit at any time without consequences
It's low key amazing game, used to played this so much shame they have never re released a newer versions, was a blast
The lacking support for this game really was a shame. I love playing this game and the experience is so unique that I doubt a replacement for it even is in sight!
Started playing with friends a couple days ago, very fun game!
It's sad that the game is so underrated, but the community breathes much life into this title!
great video! dod:s is one of my favorite valve games and i love seeing some attention or love poured into it. thank you for reviewing it! just a note about the sound: for future videos, lower the in-game sound. it sometimes makes it harder to listen to your voice. and disable the voice chat too as it makes it even harder
Thank you for the feedback!
I still play it. So much potential in there. Met so many good people there :)
This game deserves more attention! Got on November and just wow, looks and feels amazing 👌
Damn, I played this like crazy in college in the late 2000s, it was by far my most played game on steam and it took me so long to get good at it. I want to go back but I’m sure I have become complete ass at the game.
If you get to try it again, I wish you lots of fun!
"Gib mir Feuer Schüsse!"
My first DOD Source match was filled “oops”, “sorry man”, “Geeze can’t tell enemy from my squad!” 😂. Actually still a fun game to play if you don’t take it too seriously.
This game still alive, on some aervers 32/32 players
At end of day
The one thing I remember from playing this game as a teen is how absolutely brutal the recoil was. Together with the fast movement speed, it was a really hard game to master. This was the game I learned how to aim in shooters.
In a better world we got Day of Defeat 2: Global offensive with a campaign and new modes and it was remembered with the greats like TF2 and Left 4 Dead 2
And CS2 just never happeneds
Got this game yesterday, cant stop playing it. I legit cant see why you dont have more subs lol
Glad you enjoyed! And yeah I don't know why I don't have more either ;)
@@Cheecken You'll get the subs eventually! Maybe you can ask the viewer to subscribe at the end of your video, such a simple thing can help alot :)
@@GameTalesHQ I try to do that for longer productions already... too bad that those tend to get watched less 😅
I might try working something like this into shorter videos too!
By the way, love how your Mirrors Edge video has been popping off!
@@Cheecken Yeah, sadly people's attention span is short these days. But your videos are quality so it's only a matter of time untill your channel pops off :) And thanks! I'm quite surprised by it, more people have strong feelings towards mirrors edge then i thought!
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Much appreciated! You also keep going dude! Looking forward for more :)
god bless those marine raider boys, they still keeping that server running
man..great memories . Where everything started,for me..
grew up on this game, one of my favorite games on steam
spamming "BAZOOKA" or "Flank left/right" with the Nazis will never get old. This game is a gem and even though most of the times it has ~300 peak players it's hardcore nostalgia ride playing it. Also the 1st MRB server (you had some footage playing with those guys also) is a super friendly and nice group of people to play with, and with around 100 ping playing from Netherlands, it's more than acceptable for my complete noob level.
Such a great game ! Played it all the time back then.
I played back in the day, quality game.. It was at its best prior to the source release.
Man I played the shit out of this game in 2010/2011. Just hours on end on avalanche only servers and some of the other all chat community servers. Such a blast! Every now and then when I queue up for the next 5v5 competitive matchmaking game I'm hit with fond memories of times when 16v16 servers with modded parachutes and +2 grenades on each player where the peak of gameplay for me.
Just played it again after 15 years😂 still alive and kicking 😊
Great!
Still play it to this day
I have bought it and I really love this game
I’m one of those die hard lifelong fans. I’ve been playing since 2002 when it was in Beta 3.0. Anyone remember Hill Classic? 😅 And even though it’s far below games like Hell Let Loose when it comes to graphics, it’s easily my favorite game to play.
This game was amazing. It’s a huge part of my childhood
Started playing this game after a 10 year break. Even better than I had remembered.
i still play dod source
I'm still playing on some of the gun game servers, Gold source and Source mods will never die!
The possibility of endless matches is a huge downside, but overall i agree, the game is fun.
matter of perspective!
Being able to shut down an entire team with one well placed mg as the bulk of the force out flanks them is such an amazingly fun experience
Valve has a habit of making masterpieces and then dipping like someones drunken dad
I miss playing this game with my mates. Ah the good ol' days
Source games wise, Day of Defeat Source is probably the most fun alongside TF2 pre-bloat.
The casual nature of Day of Defeat lets you hop in and just grind away at the endless push and shove even without friends.
However it is massively barebones. Missing the other allied and axis factions and even pacific theater.
There's also just something missing system wise, with both gamemode and class wise. Like class synergy just isnt there. And there should be SOMETHING to actually break the endless camping (WW2 wise that would be aerial bombing, mortar strikes or tanks)
If Valve ever did decide to come back to this 'arcadey WW2' game for a new edition, it would be something special. As is, it is a fun shooty multiplayer game.
Really loving the series. Keep it up!!!
That I will!
*nobody will talk about day of defeat + brotherhood of arms combonation = Battlefield Style Valve Software Game.* what a glory times man.
this game still rocks
Funny story I played the first dod for years and bought dod:source a week early! It was due to launch Sept. 26th 2005 and I took a week vacation because my daughter was gonna be took by c section if my ex didn't go in labor though the weekend! Well you could pre load the game on steam on the 25th as soon as my download got done my ex's water broke lol! Didn't get to play the game until the very next weekend lmao
God I loved this game, even played competitively at a high level in my teens for awhile. It was honestly the only place for awhile that you could get like decently large scale battles like on the beaches of normandy and such, and it was the coolest thing I'd ever played at that point. I wish it hadn't died off so quick when games like Battlefield came out, because it was a lot more accessible for players who didn't have good enough hardware to run battlefield or the right setup to fly helicopters or aircraft and such at a high level, but enough people left that it killed the competitive scene which then killed the casual scene as well unless you wanted to play in a handful of servers with cheaters and admins playing favorites and such.
Perceptive review; nice job. Thanks.
Basically, the flag capture team objective is easy to understand and track in-game. This fact means that players who've not trained together can effectively coordinate to pursue the team's objectives. Also. no matter your skill, you can be part of the winning team. Further, even the worst shooter can be the key player who captures the last flag, with in-game recognition of this fact advertised in an end-of-round splash screen. The BEST public server team combat game ever.
I was brand new to PC gaming and saw this game on a massive discount. I got the game for only $1.29 or something. Instantly fell in love with the game, and anything valve related.
There were pro leagues and even lan cups in dods and it was the best thing ever. Great video, made me wanna reinstall it again :d
Great! Then I did something right 😁
TRUTH! I was in a Cal and IGL clan back in the day. 😅
Just started playing DOD original (not Source). Suprisingly, it has people, and is pretty good. But it has the same problem - capture points mode is also endless, with no timer.
This was my main game for a couple years but it was far too neglected by Valve. Imho they should have added back the Brits or.. Here's a wild idea - imagine if they added the Russian side? The gameplay was incredibly fun, but it just lacked depth. After maybe 2 years of playing it so much, I felt like it had run its course for me. And I never felt this way about Counter-Strike (I've played all versions of it). The few updates Valve releases for DoD:S were very much appreciated but just not big enough in scope.
Also, I just have to mention the incredible community in this game. The friendliest of any FPS I've ever seen. Everyone in this comments section gets a high five from me just for that.
I love the DOD community! I should play the game again soon, it has been a hit with not just me, but also my inner friend circle.
Thank you for the comment, and a high five to you too ;)
Played hundreds of hours on Day of Defeat Source and I played DoD a fair amount too. I hope they make a new DoD in the future.
Man, I have so much nostalgia for the Source era games. Multiplayer was better back in the day. Endless custom servers with endless maps and mods, everyone talked, you knew the people on your favorite servers, annoying people and cheaters were simply banned by the mods.
There was also something about the graphics of the Source engine that is super hard to explain, but they had this weird look that made these games feel kinda surreal. It was a similar feeling liminal spaces induce. Combined with the fact that there were these endless weird custom maps made joining a new server feel like being Alice in Wonderland. Does anyone else relate to this?
I absolutely love Day of Infamy and it's a shame that game is basically dead now.
Day of Defeat was so fun, especially when you were trying to hold back a push and on the verge of losing the last flag
Another good review Cheecken!
I absolutely loved this game during its prime in 2003! Still think about it to this day. Hence why I decided to UA-cam it.
I’d love to see a remake of this game and all it’s maps, and maybe even potentially a DOD Campaign, even if it’s made by the people working on COD games.
I personally wouldn't like a new DOD game, as strange as that sounds. Day of Defeat Source fills a void for me that no other game actually can, the mix of hardcore elements with stupid casual drop in fun, is something that is lacking today, and previous attempts at carrying on the torch of Day of Defeat, ultimately resulted in the creation of Red Orchestra-like experiences, where the gamey aspects were subtly replaced with the soft simulations a-lá Tripwire.
The great thing about Day of Defeat Source is that in spite of Valve not supporting the game as much as they should have, the community prevailed, and it being an old Source Engine game, it can run on any system imaginable. What if servers go down? You can host your own. What if the vanilla game becomes boring? Download a community made mod. How do I get friends to play with me? The game is really cheap and I bet a lot of people could still be roped into playing this excellent shooter.
I do get your idea however! It would be exciting to see what a Day of Defeat in the modern times would actually look like. I suspect however that if the formula is changed too much, we can see another Day of Infamy happen, where suddenly the spiritual successor of Day of Defeat, plays like something akin to Rising Storm. Also, its good we don't have knife skins and hats in Day of Defeat Source :P
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
Great stuff ! I put in a lot of hours playing this game back in the day :) Shout out to my old DOD clan ( 4th Wehrmacht)... Recently found Hell Let Loose , great game for old players like me :)
Original DOD was so fast and fun. DODS was a bit slower paced but also fun. Day of Infamy was the last spiritual successor to DOD, made by the people who made Insurgency. Also a very fun game but it seems to have died too now.
Still play it with joy.
God i love DoD. Played hundreds of hours per year during beta, the swinging k98 crosshair, bandaging etc etc. So ahead of it's time. Pro studios were making largely funded ww2 games that couldnt hold a torch to DoD
I legitimately think there is no other game that emulates the DoD experience. Not even Day of Infamy which titled itself as a spiritual successor comes close. Games such as Red Orchestra 2 or Hell Let Loose are great experiences, but not quite the blend of semi-realistic arcade gameplay that is found in DoD.
Legit, its the most fun WW2 shooter that I have in my Steam Library. Thanks for commenting :)
for those included myself too and who plays it still.. legends never dies
The game never died though, it just gradually shrank, but yet maintains a significant and dedicated community, and a lot of newer or older players will jump in occasionally as well.
This was an era when COMMUNITY ran servers, with their own custom maps and rules were highly valued, and like you mentioned it wasn't filled with BS such as "Grinding" the classes, lootboxes, unintuivive menuing, and so on. Just a very simple and easy to use interface, and you can jump right in and experiment with whatever you want.
In my view, this, as well as the original DOD continue to the THE best WW2 Multiplayer shooters. The map are not so big that it turns into a slop of a running simulator, it's just the right size for the 32 player count max for just about any map. There are loads of experimental player designed maps and player designed "Game modes", like the gun game for example. It has empowered the community to thrive for all these years, unlike so many other games after it that claim to be so much "Grander", than DOD - like Enlisted, Hell Let Loose, and so on. They just fail to capture what DOD had, in part because they get so caught up in the "grand scale" theme, that they forget to make their games truly fun for their respective player sizes.
If you want to cover a really dead WW2 game, I suggest Day of Infamy, the spiritual successor to DoD
Already on the list!
I got PTSD from playing it, 10/10 would recomend
Seeing that grenade land right next to you and you know you cant outrun the explosion...
@@Cheecken even worse is to watch as your friend, that you meet a minute ago, gets obliterated in front of you
i remember playing counter strike competitively during 1.6 and source's on the way release. i saw day of defeat and it was like a random game i had on my steam library available for download. started playing it, semi regret it because it ruined my gameplay in counter strike. i wasnt the greatest but i stomped every casual pub. competitive players were a whole new challenge. but i couldnt come back to improve xD
also day of defeat was the first game i learned about spawn door blocking so, that was hysterical
This is so underrated
Used to love playing DOD original in the 2000s. Definitely played it more and preferred it over Counter-Strike. Never played the Source version due to computer not being good enough at the time. But man DOD was a fun casual game.
amazing video i have the game i want this game to be alive again so badly
There are quite a few active and full servers on different times of day. So have fun playing!
I hope they make a version in source 2
Update. This game is amazing
Wasn't meant for eSports. I mean I played the original Day of Defeat at the CPL in both 2004 and 2005. DOD was one of the bigger team eSports games back then. It is shame that Day of Defeat Source didn't become a big eSports game like the original was.
Seriously, my favorite game when I was like 11 or so. So damn good.
Why hasn't valvle made a newer version with the source 2 engine?
That Kar98 sound is pure nostalgia
Had a lot of great fun on the _dod-orange_ maps.
311 hrs is DOD:S - great game!
Got the game on steam sale, its been 3 days and i already got 17.5 hours
It's addicting as hell isn't it?
@@Cheecken it is!
I can believe it. This game was so great.
that's out of order showing my team killing at 6:50 lol
😈😈😈
One thing there was a big e sports scene called comp where very good players had specific servers where they competed against other clans
it will be unexpected if they remake day of defeat with source 2
This game is still super packed.
As much as I loved the Source engine, I always liked the original DoD better. I think it was the textures and sounds. Also I notice the Bloom effect on in the Source DoD footage which always pissed me off.
And the ability to customize EVERY THING
Such a phenomenal game! A couple of thousands of hours left in just a couple of maps :)
dod Source was released way before tf2
Baffles me why Valve basically let this game die. The devs selling to valve and the forums becoming part of the steam site basically killed off the community as well. Some good around 2001 ish. 😔😔
I've played this probably more than any other multiplayer game. Literally 24/7 from when it was released until about 2010. Every couple of years I will fire it up for a few rounds. It's sad to see that it is dying out, in its heyday there was no better online experience imo. Clans, custom maps, tons of packed servers and a really great community that was helpful and more or less mature compared to say CS at the time.
Fuck I loved this game
Check it out again sometime, still lots of fun :)
Day old Dad's Feet: Saurce
IMAGINE the smell
been playing dod for almost 20 years, theres almost zero servers left and nothing under 250 ping from Australia, and the closest servers are all ping limited to 200 so you get kicked instantly. DoD update pls Valve.
I still enjoy playing the original one
I love this game so much, and like to use Kar from Grenadier. Too bad like nobody play this anymore around my area with good ping, and dont really like current FPS games especially WW2 ones. The snipers in Day of Defeat is extremely realistic in my opinion. Hiding in dark areas, breathing and cursor scope moving etc. Not like CS snipers running around like king which is so fake.
I played this and return to castle wolfenstien
DOD:S is awesome until this day
My fav multiplayer game.Very addictive game.My nickname is ESCOBAR(el patron),
My fav server is 1st Marine Raiders.my favourite team is German team, however U.s. guns are little bit better.My fav gun is German Machine Gun 😀come and lets play!
Hope to see you in game! :)
@@Cheecken yeah me too!:))
Who remembers "Axis are Fucked"?
never played the source version but i have thousands of hours in the original version.
you should review day of infamy, dod's successor (that is more dead than dod)