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Leviathan terminators size against other Terminators
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
- In this video I follow on from my previous video and compare the new leviathan terminators exclusively against other currently available Terminators.
Check out my previous video to see how other selected miniatures stack up against these new terminators • Leviathan Terminator S...
YES!! I go absolutely crazy for these size comparisons. These indomitus terminators really blend the line very oddly between firstborn and primaris, since they're wearing armour you can field lore-wise (with some emblem scraping) in chaos or even heresy armies.
*forgot to say thanks. And I'm really surprised by the blightlord height being on par!
Yes the leviathans are very flexible! I’m tempted to chaos some up myself. They have done s good job of making them ‘clean’ and a blank slate for conversion work 🙂 the blightlord surprised me too! 🤣 they are big lads! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching! 🙏
finnally a video that actually compaires the indomitus terminators to the other terminators!
Happy to help! 👍 thanks for watching!
I think the posing of the Chaos Terminators do make them look a little shorter, because they all look very hunched down more than the Leviathan new termies, their legs look more farther apart from each other, got that whole "advancing" pose to them, coupled with their slightly smaller size, I think the scale's generally pretty good on them. I always saw the Tartaros as more "agile" terminators, so I suppose I don't really mind their whole slightly petite look,
Bit sad that Khorne marines didn't get their own terminator equivalence, would be nice to see modern day Red Butchers, but I suppose that's kinda filled in with the 8-bound or whatever. Actually I'd really love to see how those 8-bound Khorne marines look compared to the new Terminators, same with the new Khorne Berzerkers vs Primaris as well, if you're able to that is! Love these vids!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate 🙂 tbh the posing of the chaos termies doesn’t impact as much as you’d think (a tiny bit maybe) I’ve messed around with that kit a lot and i would say the effect the stance has is minimal in practice. I would personally love to see khorne terminators the size of the blightlords! I’d be first in line to get those! As for future comparisons, I would quite like to do a khorne berserker run down ✊ - stay tuned brother 👍 thanks for watching 🙏
If I never watch another one of your videos again you're still getting my subscription just for this size I think you could do a lot with just comparisons like this super handy and a lot harder to find than people may think
That’s very kind mate and thank you for the support 🙂 I think the scale comparisons are one of the things I’ve become known for (in a small way!) I really appreciate the positive feedback and welcome aboard good Sir!
I'dve liked to see deathshroud in the comparison. They're a lot less hunched than pretty much every other type of terminator, and stand a tiny bit taller than blightlords.
Yeah, sorry my collection (and wallet) has limits 😅 I suspect they would be a bit more imposing as they sport some fancy poses! Thanks for watching mate 👍
Would've been great to see a comparison with a gravis armoured marine aswell!
I haven’t done a heavy Intercessor but I did throw in an aggressor in the previous video - in case you missed it that should provide some idea - this video was exclusively about terminators 🙂 thanks for watching 👍
@@maddokminis oh very nice I'll watch it now thanks!
@@samuelwhitmee9394 hope it helps! 👍
Not really what I should be taking from this video but that’s nice posing on the Thousand Sons terminator, particularly the blade
Thanks and definitely a happy accident! This guy was slapped together for the video but he did turn out quite nice! 🤣 thanks for tuning in! 🙏
Thank you been looking for a size comparison everywhere
You are most welcome! I’m happy it was useful to you and thank you for watching 👍
Delivered on the comparison we were all asking for, what a legend! Thanks! I think if I ever build an older Terminator it'll definitely need to be boosted up on a base to match the Leviathan ones...
Thank you for the kind feedback mate, I’m glad if the video was useful to you 🙂 yes I personally have to alter mine to match height as other wise it drives me crazy! 😄 thanks for watching brother 🙏
Exactly what I wanted. I'm really tempted to buy some Cataphractii and Tartaros Termies to mix into Relic squads. But the Tartaros are a bit too small for my tastes. Might have to use your technique to make them stack up next to the Leviathan termies
I’m glad it was useful mate and yes I definitely would tinker a bit with the Tartaros in your place, they are too cool to ignore! Thanks for watching mate! 👍
hello and thanks that's exactly what i was looking for when they announced leviathan box.
That’s great mate and I am very happy if this was useful for you 🙂 thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 🙏
Damn! the leviathan terminators really leaning into the tactical dreadnought theme. they are massive!
Yep! Tactical Dreadnought armour finally gets swole! 🤣 thanks for watching brother 👍
My head canon is since terminator armor is almost never produced anymore, the old firstborn indomitus suits might have needed some height modification to accommodate primaris, so I believe the chaos terminators are still fine.
The chaos kit is really nice and they look amazing all built up 👍 I’m just personally not a fan of the 2 sizes of space marine thing at all - I’ll always prefer the Primaris size next to regular umies! 🤣 but that’s just me! 😅 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts mate 🙏
still made, just difficult to make, you need a special forge world, space marines know where to get thier armor from, so know how to produce and maintain them but its like a specialist super elite tank, onley the grey knights can make them in mass numbers, having a forge moon from mars itself.
Very useful. You probably don't have them available but I would have liked to have seen them compared to the Space Marine heroes terminators, or even the old Space Hulk Blood Angel Termies. Very informative video and thank you for making it. It is handy for references.
You are more than welcome mate and I appreciate the kind feedback 🙂 unfortunately, no I don’t have any of the heroes or space hulk termies to compare with - apologies! I’m really happy this was useful and many thanks for watching brother 🙏
Great comparisons. I think i wil still pick up some cataphractii terminators.
Nice 👍 I’m glad if the video was helpful mate 🙂 Thank you for watching 🙏
Been searching for a size comparison for the chaos termies, thanks!
Great! I’m glad this was helpful and thanks for watching! 👍
These are very helpful. Thank you!
You are most welcome 🙂 thank for watching 👍
this is a great vid, you should do it with the primarchs/daemon primarchs
Blimey! I’d have to get official sponsorship to do that!! 🤪 great idea though! Thank you for taking the time to watch mate and I’m glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Thanks for the thorough size comparison. I am glad the Cataphracti holds up pretty well size wise, i actually really REALLY dislike the models but sadly the 'Morlock Terminators' i am building are wearing this pattern so i had to pick some up. It's funny, the Tartaros doesn't fair that well size wise but still looks like a good model however the Cata looks like something from '95 or a Bargain bin Wargames Factory (no offense) ' Heavy Space Knight' or whatever by comparison. I am planning on some heavy conversion work (did i mention i hate them?) but assessing the sprue anything but minor embiggening was going to be really tough so thanks again.
Yes I have to agree about the Cataphractii 🙂 not my cup of tea at all, never have been! I’m glad if this was useful in any way and many thanks for tuning in brother 🙏
This is an amazing reference! Brilliant vid, thank you.
You are most welcome! I’m very glad if the video was useful and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 🙏
I really like the Terminator aesthetic. I recently finished replacing my old metal terminators with plastics. My Blood Angels have a total of 40. A squad each of Cataphractii and Tartaros. The other 30 are a mix of the Space Marine Heroes, Blood Angel Assault Terminators and Space Marine Terminators.
The new models look good. The increased size is not helpful. I may add them to my Space Wolves. There is old 2nd edition lore about an especially large Wolf Guard named Ranulf (though a model was never released.) I may use them a "Ranulf's Legacy" to explain why they are larger than the neighboring Wolf Guard Terminators.
The old metal minis are absolutely tiny compared to the most recent models.
Thanks for the comparison vid. This helps as I haven't built my Leviathan Terminators yet.
I’m glad it has been helpful mate and I wouldn’t worry too much about the size increase, 40 terminators all together is still going to look awesome whatever generation they are from! They kinda had to upscale these to increase their presence against Primaris I think 🙂 thanks for watching brother 👍
Very interesting seeing them all Lined up next to the new terminators. I just received the Red Butchers but they are small even next to the new berzerkers...a bit unfortunate and they are resin so I could not really upscale them...they look cool but I think I am going to stick them on some rocks to create a bit of Height. Thanks for the video brother 👍
You are welcome mate and that is a shame about the red butchers 🫤 I think you are right, building up the bases is definitely the best option and it’s surprising how much difference that makes to the presence of a miniature 🙂 thanks for watching brother! 🙏
@@maddokminis Yeah it is unfortunate but indeed building up the bases helps, maybe even add some Rocks to stand on. I´ll find a way 😉.
Nice, any chance for a comparisson against the Heroes S2 Blood Angel Termos?
Im probably going to stop their with the leviathan comparisons 🙂 the heroes and blood angel ones are around about the same size as regular termies. Although their dynamic poses do help to make them look a bit bigger. Thanks for watching mate 👍
Any chance to you can do a size comparison between tortuga bay cataphractii, regular cataphractii, and Leviathan terminators.
I’ve been thinking about the tortuga bay minis but not sure.
I did compare the Tortuga bay red butcher proxies (which are Cataphractii) with the Leviathans in a previous video - have you watched that one? ua-cam.com/video/Jp6BD9khDpQ/v-deo.html (see 4:10) cheers
Thank you for comparison!
New chaos terminators are all quiet forward-leaning, so they are actually slightly taller than it seems. However, not so tall as Leviathans.
You are are welcome and yes the posing of the new chaos guys is definitely a factor 🙂 even with that taken into consideration, the Leviathans are not just taller but quite a lot bulkier too. Thanks for watching! 👍
Tartaros has the depth in the side profile the cataphractii does not have to be fair. The Chaos terminators also have a longer stance with wider strides, so stood upright they would be a lot closer.
Think you need to get some custodes, space marine heroes, space hulk and some of the larger/more recent forgeworld terminators also like the Knights Cenobium or the more recent praetors.
I compared a more upright example of a chaos termie some time ago against selected Primaris miniatures and tbh it wasn’t that much taller - (I want them to be bigger too! 😉). I’m probably going to stop the leviathan comparisons with this video - I’m not really a fan of forge world stuff and would much rather purchase other things really 🙂 - the custodes are pretty large and compare well. The heroes and space hulk dudes can be quite expensive at this stage and I’m not sure they are really that much bigger than regular Terminators. I think with both videos there is a reasonable spread of comparisons for people to draw upon 🙂 I do however appreciate the feedback mate and many thanks for tuning in! Sorry it wasn’t quite up to scratch for you man 👍
The older patterns should be bulked up and rereleased imo
Yes, in particular the Cataphractii! They are tiny by modern standards! Thank you for watching 👍
Would like to see comparison with the Deathwing terminator kit
I will probably stop there for the leviathan comparison videos but I can tell you that the Deathwing terminators are a good deal shorter. They are about the same height as regular terminators. Their dynamic poses help to make them look bulkier but they are actually quite small. I know this because I am working on the next video where I kitbash deathwing knights the leviathans 🙂 thanks for watching 👍
ive compared them and even normal firstborn terminators dont look half bad they are smaller, but still epic, terminators are terminators and the levithan termies are better but onley by a couple points a normal termie bieng like a 7, a primaris termie by a 9.5. so it works really well. ill continue to field my firstborn with my primaris marines.
Good for you mate 👍 unfortunately, the size difference is enough to bother me so my firstborn terminators retired from the tabletop. I’ll always have a few classic termies in my collection though 🙂thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 🙏
Any comparisons between Tortuga Terminators?
Only the ones that Tortuga kindly sent me (red butchers proxies) - have you checked the previous video? Thanks for watching buddy 🙏
Can you compare the leviathan vs tortuga terminators ??
I don’t have much Tortuga bay stuff sadly I did compare my Tortuga red butchers proxies in this video ua-cam.com/video/Jp6BD9khDpQ/v-deo.html (see about 4:10) these are the only TB Termies I have - hope it helps
You had a video where you made the Tartaros Termie taller to compare with primarus marine. How does that conversion compare to the new terminators? :)
Definitely better than the default but a little too slender I would say. I really want the Tartaros to be chunkier as they are my favourites after indomitus plate but I reckon that is a while off (if ever) 🤷🏼♂️ thanks for watching brother
@@maddokminis thank you for the reply. Well if I have a bunch of tartaros I was hoping to use to upscale method with. If you have a UA-cam shirt or photo of your upscale tatt marine next to the new scale termie that would be rad but if not all good I appreciate your videos
@@Adam-xk1xn ok mate leave it with me and I will throw a photo up on the community section soon 👍
@@maddokminis thank you 🙏🏻 much appreciated.
@@Adam-xk1xngoing to post a photo of increased height Tartaros vs Leviathan soon on community mate keep your eyes peeled
Yeh, I really do not like the larger scale stuff. The design is worse imo. The storm bolters on the new Termies look awful. I love the Cataphracti and the Tartaros. They are both perfect imo.
I personally like the newer termies - they didn’t mess with the core aesthetic which I’m glad about! I really like the Tartaros but I’m not into the Cataphractii personally. Both are too small for my tastes against regular space marines though. However, I’m pleased they make you happy brother - that’s the beauty of the hobby IMO thanks for sharing your thoughts mate 🙏
How do the height increased cataphrachtii look like in comparison?
I wanted to focus on the official miniature with this video - I might do a more comprehensive analysis between the leviathans and my various abominations! 😄 thank you for watching! 👍
I dont see the diference betwen tartarus and new armor being too big that i couldnt justify it in a horus haresy army or display as tartarus is meant to be light terminator armor but who knows maybe their uodate the terminator armors in haresy to be scaled with the new one at one point as they are seeming be ajusting the scale of armors for haresy
Also less anoying scale than the damn haresy plastic praetors who are almost bigger than the cataphracti and are taller than primaris
Yes it’s all a matter of opinion really 🙂 I really like the Tartaros design but I’m not a fan when it’s sitting next to Primaris scale miniatures - which is why I make mine taller! 😄 I agree that GW seem to be confused about Heresy scale minis!thanks for watching mate 🙏
Where can I find the files?
Sorry you’ve stumped me! Files??
Your still missing the biggest and the rarest... the saturnine pattern... I have one... it's the biggest..and coolest looking
That is a bit left field to be fair! 😅 I have a lot of nostalgia for them but ugh! It’s an acquired taste methinks! 😄 needless to say I don’t own one and unless one becomes available cheap I’m unlikely to sadly - thanks for watching mate 👍
I think at this point they should enlarge all the suits of terminators, even the horus heresy one.
Agreed over here mate 👍 they all need to follow the example of the blightlords in my view 🙂 thanks for watching 🙏
Please no. I don't like this never ending scale creep. The detail keeps getting worse and worse, more cartoonish as time goes on. They are perfectly fine as they are. I dont like these leviathan scale terminators. They look like digitally designed toys to me. While the HH termies look like miniature weapons of war.
@@jamesespinosa690 but anatomically, that proportion doesnt have any sense, its obviously wrong.
Their thigs should be bigger and the the head a little bit above the shoulders.
Anyway the details are perfectly balanced with the miniature, maybe by the fact that the model is bigger, the details in your eyes become a little flat and small.
Mix them in with other squads. Brother Timuis is big marine but he is not a mutant.
Yep you could do that - personally it would drive me crazy but I suspect many people will do this 🙂 thank you for watching 🙏
Tartaros are a severe disappointment size wise. I cant believe GW charges 100 dollars for 10 of them. Hardly more plastic than a space marine
100 bucks!! You guys really do get stiffed on prices - over here in the uk they cost the equivalent of $70 (still way too much for some toy soldiers). They are way too small and frankly, need an update but that isn’t going to happen anytime soon I don’t think. Thank you for tuning in buddy 👍
A terminator should be like a tortoise - damn impossible to crack, but topple him on to his back and aint gonna be able to sort himself out.
These new ones are starting to look too athletic. I prefer my termies as cumbersome squatters - it suits the lore better (and gives out body confidence vibes).
I can understand that a bit to be honest 🙂 although I wouldn’t stretch to athletic when describing the new ones - unless we are talking worlds strongest man type athleticism! 😄 but yes old school termies do provide positive big lad vibes! 🙂 thanks for watching mate 🙏
Haha just don’t put em beside grey knights lol
How do you mean? That the grey knights would be small? 🙂