Ryan is sharper than ,---all most all the others today who put a mic in front of their own face. That is why he will rise to the top, if mankind can keep up today. Many are not very sharp today, and they are that way because they really don't listen those those who are. I hear they call it "progress" in our schools. It is time for the "thinking man" to rise again,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------because that is what makes us human. :)
@@AMERICANEXPATADVENTURES OK, but riders per population numbers show the sport was over 10 times more popular (in bike sales) than it is today in the USA and I am sure Europe as the FIM can't eve fill the starting gates todau, (and how stupid are we to let them run our racing?), and people still say the sport is in good shape in the USA. The difference mostly, was affordability, as any 10 year old kid who can get a part time job making $1.00/he could afford to buy a new bike. I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980, before the production rule that tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years. That was when the bike sales/sport was over 10 time more sales than today,---with more population today. I will bet a bit, the sport was actually better in Japan then too. Fans of the sport though? It used to be, we many could afford a bike, that pretty much riders were fans. To show the sport to a typical sports fan,---was always rejected. Today, there are fans who never rode, who do go to races, but other than buying a ticket for the race,--they add no value to the sport itself, because they don't buy a bike, or the parts they can get for it, etc, that actually grows the industry. By the way, it is a pleasure to talk with you from Japan. Doug in Michigan
I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980-------starting at the age of 12. Forgot that main point.
I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980-------starting at the age of 12. Forgot that main point.
I don't know about the dust being a problem because like the other guy said you can water the track but it will never happen again just get rid of most of the jumps because that's not outdoors racing that's for supercross
Dust is a different thing than fast tracks that were going to evolve into a dirty road race course with jumps in the middle of the straights. Dust is not related to track design. And these track designs look like they were made form a computer racing game, and the tracks today are very redundant, (really much the same, especially SX). They are not designed to test the skill lever really to see who is the best. They are designed to keep everybody as close together and say it creates good racing. But as soon as they sort out in 10 laps, passing in the top ten becomes very rare today. The racing is about over many times with 10 min to go. 16 for that last 2024 moto, sans Hunter losing pace for some reason, and Malcolm getting passed for 10th in the last laps. Is that racing,------------------or is that a very fast parade?
Back then also,---we were all racers or related to racers who went to races, and we did let dust stop us from watching or racing. There were racer complaints though. This was not good, but Kerosene was actually used to keep the dust down before we used water. It did not evaporate totally. Probably blasted for weeks or months. That was before my 60 years old time, but that is what I have understood from our history. I think is was used for racing like flat track though, because I almost caught the beginning of the sport in the USA , and I don't recall it for my (just getting into the sport does not give me knowledge of the past, or even the present back in those low communication technology days. But I can believe some MX tracks did it before the EPA dictatorship was founded.
I also remember the first pro race I went to (just started racing myself) in 1985 at Red Bud when the track was tough and hard clay, like the parking lot still is. The dust was controlled well with water as far as watching and racing the race. But over the course of the day, some new guy parked his convertible next to track where Laracco's Leap is now, with his convertible top down. By the end of the day, that nice sports car must have has 1/8" deep red clay dust covering the entire interior. LOL
Watching in Thailand. Ryno rules. Meet him in 98 Millville, huge downhill jump was insane. (Took it out few years later) First time I've seen pros ride and understood why I was class C 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know they will never go back to the old school unadilla where it's grass and everything but i agree with Ryan that these tracks should get rid of a lot of the jumps in outdoors i think it would make for more passing and more exciting racing. I've never seen anyone pass on the sky shot jump at dilla.
I understand FL is where big corp and teams go with facilities now, etc. But that's another thing. But I moved down there in the early 80s. And they had a few guys that came from the 80s 90s era. Its thing was, It was flat and hot! Some areas urban, some not. So they raced at night a lot, then in unique sand mixes "depending on North to South Fl." And cause of space and being flat, It was man made jumps. But a tad bigger than I thought. Then it was "what is a triple single." And say if Dade City or South Fl tracks in the early 80s. It was all of a sudden, "ohhhh, yea thats what it is, and different. And it was only the early 80s,and this new Supercross thing was on TV some. But to see it adapted to amateur tight tracks was all new to me then. So as far as spots and what they produced back then. I saw it kind if grow differently there then other areas. To each area its own...
Funny around min 4, talking about coaching in Europe in 0 degree weather (embellishing, I know), with a lot of water on the track. Do you cool cats in CA. know water freezes under 32 degrees? :) In fact, in Michigan, on faster single track whooped out trails, (3-4th gear mostly on a 250 2-stroke, and going fast.), I found I can ride in 40 degree weather (so that was my limit. Not fast enough not to generate heat anymore though), and still be in my summer riding gear, (If I remember correctly, I may have had bark busters with the plastic shield that kept the fingers toastier. Of course, you got cold if you stopped, so we got in better shape instead by not stopping for 40 miles (the loop length on that one). :)
Ohh-part of the post I wanted to say and forgot. You CA. guys sure embellish on the cold weather. :) I(n Michigan, it has actually been cooling in the summer (not a 100 degree days for a few years, and used to have a few weeks. One 90 degree day this year 2 days ago, and the temps are normally going down now again (August on). The winters have gotten much more mild, especially since the 80's. I only had to snow plow my driveway twice last winter, and had not had enough to shovel it off roofs, (was normal), since 2016/17. One great thing about winter used to be,--there were no bugs. But there are no bugs here to speak of anymore in the summer. Over 99% depopulated in rural Michigan and a city I lived in, and I don't hear any frogs at night anymore. I can't think of anything else to blame but geo-engineering.
Min 6ish. CA did put out the most factory riders for sure in the 70's and 80's, and I believe we could say Michigan with the distant 2nd honors. Today, Michigan has not put out a factory rider since Kelly Smith over 20 years ago now, (pretty sure about that, on a KTM). Today, all of my 8 private tracks I practiced on (Hershel Smith's being one, Kelly's dad, the first to bring taller jumps to our area around 87. I believe he had a pro license himself, but not from Michigan.), are all grown in, and IMO, Michigan is a dead sport pretty much in Michigan. Marshal Welton, the best from Michigan today, is close to breaking the top ten. The few others struggle to qualify. Now the guys of my era are parents, trying to make a living in a expensive deteriorating economic climate, and can't afford to go racing with their kids. Myself and my friends were able to do it with out parental support, and just local jobs to make money to do it. That directly explains (#1 factor IMO), why the sport was 10 times bigger in bike sales until the 1986 production rule that tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years. Now add the EPA forced 4-stroke to explain why the bikes over doubled again since 1998 (a 250 had leveled off to about 5 grand for several years prior to that intervention). (Japanese 4-stroke bikes are getting less expansive by thousands of dollars, about 15%,), because I believe they are getting tired of being pushed around by the EPA (they can make the best electric bikes, and do have prototypes, but are not pushing them), and they are lowering the price (probably not making a profit on them today), to make it harder for other companies, (most likely taking government subsidies, tax payer dollars to fund the electric projects, and I suspect Triumph is involved in that also. Subsidies run out also, and they can drop like a rock.), to come out with the electric bikes of unfair subsidy advantage. You can not compete with a company who gets government subsidies, (called economic fascism)..
Watts. The mechanic for McGrath, who got replaced by Skip, for Skip to find (for one example), Mc's carb slide was not opening all the way on his race bike? I don't know. Like Kelly Smith with Steve Mathis as his mechanic, can't we do better? Kelly won one national at High point on a muddy day, and that is because his Dad put on the mud tire that Mathis would not do. Let Mathis talk with Watts IMO. Sorry.
Ryan doesn't get the notoriety of Ricky and Jeremy. However people need to realize that Ryan trained Tomac and other great riders. I have much more respect for Ryan than Ricky because Ryan doesn't brag about himself like Ricky does. Ryan is far above Carmichael in that respect.
The Goat brags about himself? really? Is that why the kids don't know what he did? He needs to brag about himself! He is the GOAT! Are we taught today to hate the best in the world? Because those are the people we admire to get better ourselves. Now, we admire Dean Wilson?, or that finger flipper for your kids Phil Nicoletti? RC should be bragging---and we should not be jealous, but inspired. Sue you schools. I know where the crap comes from today. Yes, I know they tell kids to ignore their parents too. SICK!
I don't like the dust! I don't like the mud!!!! My name is David Pingree, and I am a big baby brain! I mean, who else basically cry's and quits after the best series result of his career? (2nd regional SX)
RYAN MAN: I wonder if Ryan would agree with my conclusion about suspension set up between the rough track days, and the groomed days here in the USA today. I notice that modern groomed track riders who ride a vintage bike make a comment about how soft the suspension was back then. I I think I figured out why that is true. We had 12" of travel before we made big jumps with high G-forces that can stretch the Achilles tendon like Eli did. The suspension today is more set up for the big jumps, and not as complaint for big bumps, which are groomed today. I don't think the modern suspension will handle bumps as softer suspension yesterday did. If Ryan read this, what do you think? Now I know Paul Thede is a very very sharp guy, I have his suspension bible, and you will crash less if you learn about "front end rake and trail"). But I doubt he can make modern suspension as compliant as he did yesterday for big, successive bumps,and still handle the space drop jumps. Doug in Michigan
Team sports do not count. :) Heck, all I see in team sports, (but enjoyed playing them too as a kid in neighborhood games, and wrestled in HS, a sport about the individual like MX), ------was a dictator choach with a bunch of "workers" jumping u-p and down. :)
SMX? As far as I am concerned, the racing is over for the 2024 season. Even James Stewart (who has to promote it on NBC), made a comment about Deegan winning his first championship, and was talking about the nationals. Wanna bet Deegan does not even care?
Your side kick voice on the show sounds a lot like weegee, so I was not going to listen to this show. But then I heard that he knows what he is talking about. :)
I think it is funny that the phone generation will complain about video quality (which usually looks fine to me), but have no idea how clear a land line was nation wide, with no disconnects. But to Ryan's point, I say it is worse than he (we) realizes. We are getting away from real communication, private conversation, with our neighbors and new people we meet. People would rather talk indirectly by texting with a spy, (no privacy) phone. IMO, that is actually dangerous for a civil society.
I don't believe that California has any power to control off road vehicles anywhere accept on state land. One other exception, emissions. They'll encounter huge resistance restricting out of existence off road vehicles until there's vehicles that can reasonable replace gas powered ones. Besides, they don't account for any significant of carbon emissions. If there were electric dirt bikes that had range and fast charging/fueling, they'd take over quickly. Besides, technology will be available for extensive carbon capture in the ocean, geothermal power generation anywhere via microwave drills and other new tech that will make most other forms of power generation nearly obsolete.
Well, you can't put a catalytic converter on a race machine, and expect to achieve the power a high performance gas engine can generate. Choking of the flow of exhaust sacrifice potential power, and makes it harder for heat to escape the engine. Gut you can't, and measure the engine temps difference, especially since they moved the cats as close to the exhaust port as possible. The cost also,--would of course go up about a grand in my un-researched estimation. The reason why our cars are about double of what they could be is because of government intervention. Same with bikes.
@@EarthSurferUSA I agree. Radical environmentalists nit pick, often out of spite like Calif. Gov. Gavin Newsom trying to restrict 4 strokes out of existence.
This pod will blow up. Genuine people always rise to the top.
Ryan is sharper than ,---all most all the others today who put a mic in front of their own face. That is why he will rise to the top, if mankind can keep up today. Many are not very sharp today, and they are that way because they really don't listen those those who are. I hear they call it "progress" in our schools. It is time for the "thinking man" to rise again,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------because that is what makes us human. :)
Watching in Japan. Cool to see japan moto getting a shout out. The moto scene is pretty good in japan.
Define "pretty good". :)
@@EarthSurferUSA the tracks are healthy with a few solid race series. People show up and show out.
@@AMERICANEXPATADVENTURES OK, but riders per population numbers show the sport was over 10 times more popular (in bike sales) than it is today in the USA and I am sure Europe as the FIM can't eve fill the starting gates todau, (and how stupid are we to let them run our racing?), and people still say the sport is in good shape in the USA. The difference mostly, was affordability, as any 10 year old kid who can get a part time job making $1.00/he could afford to buy a new bike. I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980, before the production rule that tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years. That was when the bike sales/sport was over 10 time more sales than today,---with more population today. I will bet a bit, the sport was actually better in Japan then too. Fans of the sport though? It used to be, we many could afford a bike, that pretty much riders were fans. To show the sport to a typical sports fan,---was always rejected. Today, there are fans who never rode, who do go to races, but other than buying a ticket for the race,--they add no value to the sport itself, because they don't buy a bike, or the parts they can get for it, etc, that actually grows the industry.
By the way, it is a pleasure to talk with you from Japan. Doug in Michigan
I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980-------starting at the age of 12. Forgot that main point.
I bought three new bikes from 74-80, 1976 Kawasaki KD125, 1978 YZ100, and a 1979 YZ125. left over in 1980-------starting at the age of 12. Forgot that main point.
Thanks Ryno! I've been digging this feed since the gate dropped. Keep it up. Your moto brother in CA.
Pampered tracks are a necessity for TV. Nobody wants to watch a dust bowl. Can't have it both ways
They can still water a track that’s not all prepped up.
I don't know about the dust being a problem because like the other guy said you can water the track but it will never happen again just get rid of most of the jumps because that's not outdoors racing that's for supercross
Dust is a different thing than fast tracks that were going to evolve into a dirty road race course with jumps in the middle of the straights. Dust is not related to track design. And these track designs look like they were made form a computer racing game, and the tracks today are very redundant, (really much the same, especially SX).
They are not designed to test the skill lever really to see who is the best. They are designed to keep everybody as close together and say it creates good racing. But as soon as they sort out in 10 laps, passing in the top ten becomes very rare today. The racing is about over many times with 10 min to go. 16 for that last 2024 moto, sans Hunter losing pace for some reason, and Malcolm getting passed for 10th in the last laps.
Is that racing,------------------or is that a very fast parade?
Back then also,---we were all racers or related to racers who went to races, and we did let dust stop us from watching or racing. There were racer complaints though. This was not good, but Kerosene was actually used to keep the dust down before we used water. It did not evaporate totally. Probably blasted for weeks or months. That was before my 60 years old time, but that is what I have understood from our history. I think is was used for racing like flat track though, because I almost caught the beginning of the sport in the USA , and I don't recall it for my (just getting into the sport does not give me knowledge of the past, or even the present back in those low communication technology days. But I can believe some MX tracks did it before the EPA dictatorship was founded.
I also remember the first pro race I went to (just started racing myself) in 1985 at Red Bud when the track was tough and hard clay, like the parking lot still is.
The dust was controlled well with water as far as watching and racing the race. But over the course of the day, some new guy parked his convertible next to track where Laracco's Leap is now, with his convertible top down. By the end of the day, that nice sports car must have has 1/8" deep red clay dust covering the entire interior. LOL
100% agree about unadilla. Miss those days
GUY is GENIUS when it comes to riding
Just subscribed...Ryan knows his stuff. Interviewer guy great choice for this Podcast, too!
Watching in Thailand. Ryno rules. Meet him in 98 Millville, huge downhill jump was insane. (Took it out few years later) First time I've seen pros ride and understood why I was class C 😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL. Yea, they sure made it look easy huh. :) New fans today who can't afford a bike to ride,---have not a clue the contrast.
Watching from Down Under, Australia 🇦🇺
What day is this live? So we know when to call in
That was Jorge Lorenzo in Assen, broke his collarbone on ssturday i think, went to Spain for surgery and the next day he was racing
hells yeah RYNO POWER the one dude in media talkin shit about RYNO
I know they will never go back to the old school unadilla where it's grass and everything but i agree with Ryan that these tracks should get rid of a lot of the jumps in outdoors i think it would make for more passing and more exciting racing. I've never seen anyone pass on the sky shot jump at dilla.
I understand FL is where big corp and teams go with facilities now, etc. But that's another thing.
But I moved down there in the early 80s. And they had a few guys that came from the 80s 90s era.
Its thing was, It was flat and hot! Some areas urban, some not. So they raced at night a lot, then in unique sand mixes "depending on North to South Fl."
And cause of space and being flat, It was man made jumps. But a tad bigger than I thought. Then it was "what is a triple single." And say if Dade City or South Fl tracks in the early 80s. It was all of a sudden, "ohhhh, yea thats what it is, and different.
And it was only the early 80s,and this new Supercross thing was on TV some. But to see it adapted to amateur tight tracks was all new to me then. So as far as spots and what they produced back then. I saw it kind if grow differently there then other areas. To each area its own...
Funny around min 4, talking about coaching in Europe in 0 degree weather (embellishing, I know), with a lot of water on the track.
Do you cool cats in CA. know water freezes under 32 degrees? :) In fact, in Michigan, on faster single track whooped out trails, (3-4th gear mostly on a 250 2-stroke, and going fast.), I found I can ride in 40 degree weather (so that was my limit. Not fast enough not to generate heat anymore though), and still be in my summer riding gear, (If I remember correctly, I may have had bark busters with the plastic shield that kept the fingers toastier. Of course, you got cold if you stopped, so we got in better shape instead by not stopping for 40 miles (the loop length on that one). :)
Ohh-part of the post I wanted to say and forgot. You CA. guys sure embellish on the cold weather. :) I(n Michigan, it has actually been cooling in the summer (not a 100 degree days for a few years, and used to have a few weeks. One 90 degree day this year 2 days ago, and the temps are normally going down now again (August on). The winters have gotten much more mild, especially since the 80's. I only had to snow plow my driveway twice last winter, and had not had enough to shovel it off roofs, (was normal), since 2016/17. One great thing about winter used to be,--there were no bugs. But there are no bugs here to speak of anymore in the summer. Over 99% depopulated in rural Michigan and a city I lived in, and I don't hear any frogs at night anymore. I can't think of anything else to blame but geo-engineering.
Please add chapter markers for future podcast.
Min 6ish. CA did put out the most factory riders for sure in the 70's and 80's, and I believe we could say Michigan with the distant 2nd honors.
Today, Michigan has not put out a factory rider since Kelly Smith over 20 years ago now, (pretty sure about that, on a KTM). Today, all of my 8 private tracks I practiced on (Hershel Smith's being one, Kelly's dad, the first to bring taller jumps to our area around 87. I believe he had a pro license himself, but not from Michigan.), are all grown in, and IMO, Michigan is a dead sport pretty much in Michigan. Marshal Welton, the best from Michigan today, is close to breaking the top ten. The few others struggle to qualify. Now the guys of my era are parents, trying to make a living in a expensive deteriorating economic climate, and can't afford to go racing with their kids. Myself and my friends were able to do it with out parental support, and just local jobs to make money to do it. That directly explains (#1 factor IMO), why the sport was 10 times bigger in bike sales until the 1986 production rule that tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years. Now add the EPA forced 4-stroke to explain why the bikes over doubled again since 1998 (a 250 had leveled off to about 5 grand for several years prior to that intervention). (Japanese 4-stroke bikes are getting less expansive by thousands of dollars, about 15%,), because I believe they are getting tired of being pushed around by the EPA (they can make the best electric bikes, and do have prototypes, but are not pushing them), and they are lowering the price (probably not making a profit on them today), to make it harder for other companies, (most likely taking government subsidies, tax payer dollars to fund the electric projects, and I suspect Triumph is involved in that also. Subsidies run out also, and they can drop like a rock.), to come out with the electric bikes of unfair subsidy advantage. You can not compete with a company who gets government subsidies, (called economic fascism)..
Id like to hear about your days with Watts unfiltered. Or invite him on the show.
Watts. The mechanic for McGrath, who got replaced by Skip, for Skip to find (for one example), Mc's carb slide was not opening all the way on his race bike?
I don't know. Like Kelly Smith with Steve Mathis as his mechanic, can't we do better? Kelly won one national at High point on a muddy day, and that is because his Dad put on the mud tire that Mathis would not do. Let Mathis talk with Watts IMO. Sorry.
Nice work
Nobody is saying all tracks should be like the old Unadilla. Just one or two tracks can be old school instead of all the tracks being so similar.
Ryan doesn't get the notoriety of Ricky and Jeremy. However people need to realize that Ryan trained Tomac and other great riders. I have much more respect for Ryan than Ricky because Ryan doesn't brag about himself like Ricky does. Ryan is far above Carmichael in that respect.
The Goat brags about himself? really? Is that why the kids don't know what he did? He needs to brag about himself! He is the GOAT! Are we taught today to hate the best in the world? Because those are the people we admire to get better ourselves. Now, we admire Dean Wilson?, or that finger flipper for your kids Phil Nicoletti?
RC should be bragging---and we should not be jealous, but inspired. Sue you schools. I know where the crap comes from today. Yes, I know they tell kids to ignore their parents too. SICK!
Yeah, No.
I don't like the dust! I don't like the mud!!!! My name is David Pingree, and I am a big baby brain!
I mean, who else basically cry's and quits after the best series result of his career? (2nd regional SX)
RYAN MAN: I wonder if Ryan would agree with my conclusion about suspension set up between the rough track days, and the groomed days here in the USA today. I notice that modern groomed track riders who ride a vintage bike make a comment about how soft the suspension was back then. I I think I figured out why that is true. We had 12" of travel before we made big jumps with high G-forces that can stretch the Achilles tendon like Eli did. The suspension today is more set up for the big jumps, and not as complaint for big bumps, which are groomed today. I don't think the modern suspension will handle bumps as softer suspension yesterday did. If Ryan read this, what do you think?
Now I know Paul Thede is a very very sharp guy, I have his suspension bible, and you will crash less if you learn about "front end rake and trail"). But I doubt he can make modern suspension as compliant as he did yesterday for big, successive bumps,and still handle the space drop jumps. Doug in Michigan
I'm on the east coast and would like to make a call. What day do you guys film this so I can make a call
Ryno it's Billy from the pirates back in the day... We played on Joe's team and made city championship
Team sports do not count. :) Heck, all I see in team sports, (but enjoyed playing them too as a kid in neighborhood games, and wrestled in HS, a sport about the individual like MX), ------was a dictator choach with a bunch of "workers" jumping u-p and down. :)
The politics of the sport, is actually controlled by the politics of the world. Ignore it, and we let it have it's way with us.
The 4-stroke engine forced on the industry came from the politics of the world.
SMX? As far as I am concerned, the racing is over for the 2024 season. Even James Stewart (who has to promote it on NBC), made a comment about Deegan winning his first championship, and was talking about the nationals. Wanna bet Deegan does not even care?
Your side kick voice on the show sounds a lot like weegee, so I was not going to listen to this show. But then I heard that he knows what he is talking about. :)
Bikes according to the gentlemen from Japan, are about 1/2 our price!!!??
Anybody own a big boat?
Back then it was “Una-fukn-dilla”. I know
People unlearned to talk on the phone? Can only type on the phone these days. 🙂
I think it is funny that the phone generation will complain about video quality (which usually looks fine to me), but have no idea how clear a land line was nation wide, with no disconnects.
But to Ryan's point, I say it is worse than he (we) realizes. We are getting away from real communication, private conversation, with our neighbors and new people we meet. People would rather talk indirectly by texting with a spy, (no privacy) phone. IMO, that is actually dangerous for a civil society.
Texas is not flat lol😂.
I don't believe that California has any power to control off road vehicles anywhere accept on state land. One other exception, emissions. They'll encounter huge resistance restricting out of existence off road vehicles until there's vehicles that can reasonable replace gas powered ones. Besides, they don't account for any significant of carbon emissions. If there were electric dirt bikes that had range and fast charging/fueling, they'd take over quickly. Besides, technology will be available for extensive carbon capture in the ocean, geothermal power generation anywhere via microwave drills and other new tech that will make most other forms of power generation nearly obsolete.
Well, you can't put a catalytic converter on a race machine, and expect to achieve the power a high performance gas engine can generate. Choking of the flow of exhaust sacrifice potential power, and makes it harder for heat to escape the engine. Gut you can't, and measure the engine temps difference, especially since they moved the cats as close to the exhaust port as possible. The cost also,--would of course go up about a grand in my un-researched estimation. The reason why our cars are about double of what they could be is because of government intervention. Same with bikes.
@@EarthSurferUSA I agree. Radical environmentalists nit pick, often out of spite like Calif. Gov. Gavin Newsom trying to restrict 4 strokes out of existence.