@UnbeatenGoose Because he switched from a weapon with aec damage so the lag took a sec. Since datto is inspecting him it takes a sec to update all the stat info.
Tripmine needs a buff in PVP. It's good as is, my go-to grenade, but it should kill anyone even with full armour or there's really no point to it. Maybe it would make sense to buff Young Ahamkara's Spine so that Tripmine does more damage and can kill anyone, full armour or not, which would make it a more viable exotic. Do you agree?
I agree with buffing it's damage in general to the point where it one shots everyone since its not such an easy grenade to use. And I'd really like it if people couldn't just slide through and escape the grenade all together -_-
Wtf? The last thing that Bungie needs to ever do is buff the tripmine grenade. I die all the time from those stupid mines that people just throw on walls, if the tripmine got buffed it would be way overpowered. Why would Bungie make it kill anyone instantly? It can already stick to walls and stay there for like 30 seconds, and does more damage than most grenades, and you want its damage to be increased... Are you fucking serious?
Generally the time it stays there doesn't really matter. In my experience if I don't get a kill with it in the first 5 seconds I won't get a kill with that grenade at all because people see the big red light and don't go through it. And if they want to go through it they cant just slide through no problem. I think that's a little bs. And considering the blast radius is pretty small, I wouldn't mind the damage being increased to insure the kill. But I don't think its that big of a deal. I really don't like that people can slide through it though. It's a tripmine not Limbo.
OverMan The fact that you can throw the tripmine as far as you want, plus all the reasons I stated makes it OP. I don't think there is any other online shooter that allows you to chuck a mine literally 200 feet.
What you should use during the first part of the raid is the ice breaker. +2 agility and the ice breaker ability wipes out large groups of thrall in 1 or 2 shots
Since dogged gage already has the special weapon loader, part of your point with black hammer vs. praedyth's revenge is null, as I personally would run perfect balance rather than max reload on BH.
Weirdly, for PvP, I play with a completely different setup on Blade Dancer. Obviously take advantage of the health regen on arc blade, it's in the game, a titan or warlock will still trump you with a super anyway, may as well make the most of it. Lucky Raspberry with Arcbolt grenades is really effective, and maxed armour as well. Mostly because I don't have Third Man, but still.
Backstab is highly under rated for the Bladedancer, and i dont understand how people disregard Throwing Knives like this. Theyre very powerful precision damaging tools and you can burn enemies to keep their shields down, or have them instantly refresh for more insane precision damage.
I run full agility no matter what , never changed me build on the hunter . Gunslinger combustion is good at pretty much everything and the blade juggler perk is so fun :D as for weapons I mainly use hand cannons.
Hmm, I am surprised you leave on Gunslinger's Trance and don't switch to Keyhole for a Gunslinger PvP build. Keyhole+Combustion is a nasty combination... especially with the extra shot from Achlyophage Symbiote. I have managed a triple kill with 1 shot using that setup.
The Hunter starts with the white scarf. Most people just switch to a cloak pretty soon so they can get faction rep. Obviously for the raids you don't need it but if you car about the faction shaders/ship or extra Iron Banner rep then a cloak is needed, unfortunately.
Ice breaker has an attack Stat of 331 and the blast from the enemies has a bigger AOE so no icebreaker is more effective in every possible way. And you don't even need precision kills. Fatebringer is still VERY good tho its always my primary for the abyss
Not necessarily. I'm wrong, in your opinion. I'd much rather use a Hand Cannon, Fatebringer, and just whip it out for a quick snap-headshot. It's easy, and I don't risk getting A.) Left behind, and B.) Trapped.
Hey Uh I got a question about destiny if I were to buy it do I need to have the season pass to the other content or is it unlocked on the cd it self because this will be my first time buying it
You do not "need" the season pass because you can buy the first DLC that is currently out "The Dark Below" by itself and see how you like things. The second upcoming DLC hasn't been released yet and I personally would recommend you play as much as the current content that is released so far first and then decide.
MikeRKO316 Sometimes the cryptarch guy sells white items and if you buy a white class-specific, you MIGHT be able to get it again, the chance will probably be low because there's so many scarves, but I THINK it's possible
When you swap gear, the traits of the last piece carry over for some reason. Example, I inspect my friend's Fatebringer, but then he swaps to Hawkmoon, showing me an arc damage Hawkmoon.
If it's a gunslinger, yes. Intellect and discipline are ideal builds for pve. Throwing knives are trash. If it's blade dancer. Discipline and strength/intellect would be the best. For the invis strike. And the blade dancer super/grenades
why is datto so biased against hunters? it happens to be the class i play. If he wants to be an expert on all aspects of this game, which is his job, he needs a 32 hunter. Since he is On Xbox too, i know he has at least 6 character slots at his disposal, no excuse not to run a hunter. I usually use Vex and light of the abyss and Ir Yut in Abyss+Bridge. Vex is kind of a beast, at short to mid range, light of the abyss seems designed for the abyss (hence it's name) with the fastest charge rate of fusion rifles and a large 8 mag, basically designed for thrall. Ir Yut because RL's too dangerous. For Deathsinger+Crota I switch to Gally. For the heavy damage on Wizards, the Deathsinger, and Crota. Also either black hammer or more commonly, a LDR-5001. Reason I prefer LDR over black hammer, LDR hold an extra shot in the mag and a few more in reserve than BH, and have almost as much impact, plus they have armor piercing, which can help when the swordbearer is behind a rock, and even sometimes shooting the 2nd ogre through the barrier. BH has white nail but you really wont be using it much in hard mode, and it's hard to pull off anyway. Plus lets say you are doing secondary damage against Crota, 4 LDR slightly less powerful shots will beat 3 BH shots every time for DPS because of the extra shot, neither will have time to shoot Crota after reload. I also use Dont touch Me throughout, I feel like inverse shadow is probably better than a 4th GG shot anyway, as making your super replenish faster is probably equal or more valuable than the extra shot. And the invisibility perk is just great and can save your butt throughout, not just in the Abyss. Also on the Bridge where there's tons of thralls, and even sometimes with thralls or knights on Crota. This vid is making me wish I kept my preadyth's though. I sharded it when I got a 331 void LDR. I guess I could always rerun VoG to get it back though! For health regen on crota hard, well usually I do not take too much damage as I dont run sword (despite being a hunter, never had opportunity). If I do, then I roll with Suros as it's the only health regenner I have. Still looking for red death, Mask of Third Man (although I could have bought that from Xur and passed it up in the past), or best of all a raid helmet with orb regen.
There is no such thing as an Arc Hawkmoon. The game just lagged when he switched weapon to Hawkmoon, he even said it in the previous video when his team mate had an "Arc The Last Word".
I just love evolve especially with friends and I love the idea of it. Such a different type of game compared to other games being released recently. It's like Destiny. It justs needs more.
not really. at least gunslinger takes a bit of skill. bladedancer is just a button mash. Not to mention you gain no armour as a gunslinger, meaning you can be killed extremely easily - unlike bladedancer where youre practically invincible, especially with hungering blade
Cody Linzmeier It's funny because you are completely oblivious to how poorly written your argument is. you must literally be 12 years old. All you said was 'gunslinger is worse'. How about you use your tiny brain and try to type out coherently why you think that. Jesus...
omg wtf ahahahaah. i have to address your last bit first cos that made me laugh way too hard. so because i don't reply straight away it means that i've been beaten in the argument? wtf are you stupid? actually why am i asking that question at this stage... it's called having a life buddy, sorry if i don't respond to a youtube keyboard warrior right away! And if you show your friends youtube comment arguments then i already know exactly what kind of kid you are ahahaha. okay now into the actual content which was what we were talking about before you got all buthead and started ranting about jack shit. Firstly, you say the gunslinger is op cos you can one shot from the other side of the map. this is true, i don't deny it, and is one of the strengths of the super. overpowered? maybe. I would also like to point out that i was only ever comparing it to bladedancer and none of the other supers. i never said gunslinger was worse than titan and warlock supers, just that it was worse than bladedancer. Now you didn't make any other arguments apart from the fact that you've killed people in the middle of their supers. congratulations! the supers are designed to cancel eachother out you fuckwit. that doesn't make it op. just like you call kill a bladedancer with foh or a ward of dawn witha nova bomb. Jesus that just doesn't pass through your thick skull. Now I'll give you the reasons why I think bladedancer is more op than gunslinger. Notice how I said 'I think', because I'm not a self-righteous asshole who thinks his opinion is fact and the word of god. Also notice how I'll make a clear and concise argument, something you learn in highschool and higher education but clearly something you will never learn (probs cos you won't get higher education lol). 1. Gunslinger does require some accuracy and skill. When we compare it to bladedancer, one can just spam a single button and clear a whole room. Golden gun requires accuracy to land shots, albeit not that much i will concede. 2. Gunslingers recieve no armour when using their super. Bladedancers become almost invincible, especially coupled with the hungering blade perk. However gunslingers are at normal health, meaning if you're actually a good player in pvp, golden gun can be easily countered by a simple flank. 3. This is kind of an add on from point 2. Bungie has essentially confirmed that bladedancer is more op than gunslinger. You know why? cos gunslinger generates more orbs. When asked why, the bungie pvp devs confirmed it was a way to balance out the classes, cos clearly even they think bladedancer is more overpowered. 4. Throwing knife is a skilled melee ability, unlike blink strike lol. Essentially, bladedancer is for the people who play hunter who are bad at pvp, and gunslinger is for the better players (allthough as with all generalisations, it is not always accurate). Anyway feel free to comment again and try to rebut some of my arguments relating to the original post and not some rant about how stupid I am. I would be genuinely interested to hear your arguments for why gunslinger is more op than bladedancer. But then again, you're probably too immature to do that. oh well...
Please never stop making these videos they are the best part of my day.
FINALLY THE MASTER CLASS
#TitanMasterClass
lileagle2000 that is my close second fav class but gunslinger is just fun
Love it except for that super...disappointing in PvE.
#warlockmasterrace
#EveryClassExceptTheHunterIsTheMasterClass
@UnbeatenGoose Because he switched from a weapon with aec damage so the lag took a sec. Since datto is inspecting him it takes a sec to update all the stat info.
Great vid, just started my hunter and great to know how to set it up. Thanks
Tripmine needs a buff in PVP. It's good as is, my go-to grenade, but it should kill anyone even with full armour or there's really no point to it. Maybe it would make sense to buff Young Ahamkara's Spine so that Tripmine does more damage and can kill anyone, full armour or not, which would make it a more viable exotic. Do you agree?
I agree with buffing it's damage in general to the point where it one shots everyone since its not such an easy grenade to use. And I'd really like it if people couldn't just slide through and escape the grenade all together -_-
Wtf? The last thing that Bungie needs to ever do is buff the tripmine grenade. I die all the time from those stupid mines that people just throw on walls, if the tripmine got buffed it would be way overpowered. Why would Bungie make it kill anyone instantly? It can already stick to walls and stay there for like 30 seconds, and does more damage than most grenades, and you want its damage to be increased... Are you fucking serious?
Generally the time it stays there doesn't really matter. In my experience if I don't get a kill with it in the first 5 seconds I won't get a kill with that grenade at all because people see the big red light and don't go through it. And if they want to go through it they cant just slide through no problem. I think that's a little bs. And considering the blast radius is pretty small, I wouldn't mind the damage being increased to insure the kill. But I don't think its that big of a deal. I really don't like that people can slide through it though. It's a tripmine not Limbo.
OverMan The fact that you can throw the tripmine as far as you want, plus all the reasons I stated makes it OP. I don't think there is any other online shooter that allows you to chuck a mine literally 200 feet.
Ok, you got me there, it is much easier to place that other grenades, but i don't like people playing limbo with my grenades.
What you should use during the first part of the raid is the ice breaker. +2 agility and the ice breaker ability wipes out large groups of thrall in 1 or 2 shots
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR MONTHS
I don't know if anybody would be interested, but I'd love if Bungie made it so that you can hotkey subclass builds on the dpad. That'd be sweet.
8 years later we have this
Since dogged gage already has the special weapon loader, part of your point with black hammer vs. praedyth's revenge is null, as I personally would run perfect balance rather than max reload on BH.
Can the "scarf" he has be found by just a regular class item engram, or does it have to be the one you started the game with?
Really good video DATTO thank you and thanks leoparsthealt . Datto you are my hero
as an Xbox warlock/titan user why does HawkMoon deal arc damage at 6:38
but then at 8:56 it doesn't ?
I don't know mine hawkmoon is kinect damage and never was arc.....
Weirdly, for PvP, I play with a completely different setup on Blade Dancer. Obviously take advantage of the health regen on arc blade, it's in the game, a titan or warlock will still trump you with a super anyway, may as well make the most of it. Lucky Raspberry with Arcbolt grenades is really effective, and maxed armour as well. Mostly because I don't have Third Man, but still.
Backstab is highly under rated for the Bladedancer, and i dont understand how people disregard Throwing Knives like this. Theyre very powerful precision damaging tools and you can burn enemies to keep their shields down, or have them instantly refresh for more insane precision damage.
Arc hawkmoon at 6:38 😱😂op!
I run full agility no matter what , never changed me build on the hunter . Gunslinger combustion is good at pretty much everything and the blade juggler perk is so fun :D as for weapons I mainly use hand cannons.
Will this loadout change after the weapon tuning?
Hmm, I am surprised you leave on Gunslinger's Trance and don't switch to Keyhole for a Gunslinger PvP build. Keyhole+Combustion is a nasty combination... especially with the extra shot from Achlyophage Symbiote. I have managed a triple kill with 1 shot using that setup.
Is this build still applicable to endgame content?
W A R L O C K M A S T E R R A C E
You prob haven't even used the other characters
Tucker Strawser I have and i love warlock the best.
Warlock for pve , hunter for pvp
Chief Hutch Wasn't talking to you
Senne Goossens titans for both
Where did he get that Embelm!?
Registering at bungie.net in 2013
For abyss I use fate bringer and ice breaker because of the explosions.
You should do more videos and stuff with your raid team and whoever else you play with
How did he get the cape. It's so cool how you can see the stop of the helmet and what the shader does to the helmet
The Hunter starts with the white scarf. Most people just switch to a cloak pretty soon so they can get faction rep. Obviously for the raids you don't need it but if you car about the faction shaders/ship or extra Iron Banner rep then a cloak is needed, unfortunately.
It's the class item you get immediately when you start a new hunter
If MIDA is not available, Ice Breaker also helps with extra agility...
ya he is only using it because it has 2 abilities to help agility
There are a lot of things with lightweight but MIDA has the biggest effect
No Land Beyond has extra agility too.
@Sean Anzures Exactly mate cheers!
@OverMan Hunter star the game with that scarf. If you deleted it you need to make a new hunter get to the tower and vault it.
Why does hawkmoon have arc damage at his crucible build?
Ice breaker for the abyss is beast try it
Yes, with a simple freescope shot u can kill tons of thralls
Fatebringer is more effective, Imo, and then you can have, say, Gjallarhorn, or Thunderlord.
Ice breaker has an attack Stat of 331 and the blast from the enemies has a bigger AOE so no icebreaker is more effective in every possible way. And you don't even need precision kills. Fatebringer is still VERY good tho its always my primary for the abyss
You're right, Shinya is Wrong.
Not necessarily. I'm wrong, in your opinion.
I'd much rather use a Hand Cannon, Fatebringer, and just whip it out for a quick snap-headshot. It's easy, and I don't risk getting A.) Left behind, and B.) Trapped.
Hey Uh I got a question about destiny if I were to buy it do I need to have the season pass to the other content or is it unlocked on the cd it self because this will be my first time buying it
You do not "need" the season pass because you can buy the first DLC that is currently out "The Dark Below" by itself and see how you like things. The second upcoming DLC hasn't been released yet and I personally would recommend you play as much as the current content that is released so far first and then decide.
"i look like a storm trooper" hehehe i run a silver shader on my titan so i look like a terminator
Gonna be honest, I think throwing knives are the best aspect of the hunter in PvP
if I discarded the scarf from my hunter, is there any way to get one aside from making a new hunter and just vaulting it immediately?
no, that's the only way
MikeRKO316 Sometimes the cryptarch guy sells white items and if you buy a white class-specific, you MIGHT be able to get it again, the chance will probably be low because there's so many scarves, but I THINK it's possible
David Crabb I already played thru with another hunter to store the scarf. That was the last time I played destiny, around a month ago.
Can u make a titan one please????
How did leapord get that emblem
so datto do you only play hard mode with your titan and then play normal with your hunter and warlock?
Datto has 3 Titans. He's speciation leopard here.
edit: *spectating
I'd make a few minor changes but otherwise that's a good setup
@Michael Henke so does Murmur and everyone should have one cause its free.
My opinion- Hunter is for stealth, Titan is for all out attack and defence, I don't know about warlock..
Hunter is focused on Agility and Stealth, Titan is focused on Armor and being tanky, Warlock is focused on Regeneration and maybe boosting atribute?
Did anyone see hawk moon with arc damage?
As a level 31 i one shot acolytes and thrall with my throwing knife on crota hard mode, typically i dont use the knife for high tier enemies
Hmm. I kind of like the Cape-less look. Anyone know how i can get that class item?
That cape is the default class item you get immediately when starting a new hunter.
I am Kappa Is there a way to get it again if you dismantled it?
OverMan You have to start a new hunter.
Jack Jeffers All of a sudden the cape-less look doesn't appeal to me anymore.
Lol
leopardstealth you are me hero :D
Hey datto, have you seen the guy that has made Lego weapons? He just mad a gjallerhorn one!
I use incendiary knife to Hail Mary some fire onto any boss I might see
lepturd has a lot of old 30 light and 300 attack stuff lol
Edna- No Capes!
Why does his hawk on have arc damage wtf
I keep keyhole and combustion on so my golden gun is just sick
The hunter isn't the master class... It's a lifestyle let the Titan and warlocks fight over being the best "class" while were out their looking cooo
Datto your entire raid group should use a different class that they currently use, just to spice things up (:
Hunter is my main and I always hated when people wore the makeshift scarf because it just looks so dumb...
what's dumb about it ?..alot of helmets look pretty cool without the cape..
tripmine is the best. it one shot when sticked...
Not really. I as a warlock just walk through without any damage.
It also has a very high chance to kill you. My friend who plays with it, now has the nickname Suicidal Sam. Trip mine kills him a lot
Hey Darkegg! I watch your vids!
lol arc hawkmoon 6:38
PLZ DATTO DO/SHOW A BUILD FOR THE TITAN CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He already has
@wmalex610 It has to be the starter one.
6:38 Hawkmoon with Arc damage lol
Hold up, his Alpha Lupi has intellect. Is that because Datto is spectating him as a Titan (because the Titan's Crest is intellect).
When you swap gear, the traits of the last piece carry over for some reason. Example, I inspect my friend's Fatebringer, but then he swaps to Hawkmoon, showing me an arc damage Hawkmoon.
Wow complete different than my build.
How the hell does that Crest of Alpha Lupi have intellect?!?!?
DattoDoesDestiny My level 32 Hunter have a 94% Intellect, 99% Discipline, but 0% strength... Is that good?
If it's a gunslinger, yes.
Intellect and discipline are ideal builds for pve.
Throwing knives are trash.
If it's blade dancer.
Discipline and strength/intellect would be the best.
For the invis strike.
And the blade dancer super/grenades
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I must be the ONLY bladedancer that does not use the invisibility specs
I don't either, unless it's the abyss, but I tend to use gunslinger more anyway.
armour does very little for you, i suggest just maxing agility and recovery
The sniper from the new monarchy has a faster fire rate
And it has like the worst impact ever. It can only barely two shot to the body
Under 301 club!
Back stab is a one shot kill in pvp
why is datto so biased against hunters? it happens to be the class i play. If he wants to be an expert on all aspects of this game, which is his job, he needs a 32 hunter. Since he is On Xbox too, i know he has at least 6 character slots at his disposal, no excuse not to run a hunter.
I usually use Vex and light of the abyss and Ir Yut in Abyss+Bridge. Vex is kind of a beast, at short to mid range, light of the abyss seems designed for the abyss (hence it's name) with the fastest charge rate of fusion rifles and a large 8 mag, basically designed for thrall. Ir Yut because RL's too dangerous.
For Deathsinger+Crota I switch to Gally. For the heavy damage on Wizards, the Deathsinger, and Crota. Also either black hammer or more commonly, a LDR-5001. Reason I prefer LDR over black hammer, LDR hold an extra shot in the mag and a few more in reserve than BH, and have almost as much impact, plus they have armor piercing, which can help when the swordbearer is behind a rock, and even sometimes shooting the 2nd ogre through the barrier. BH has white nail but you really wont be using it much in hard mode, and it's hard to pull off anyway. Plus lets say you are doing secondary damage against Crota, 4 LDR slightly less powerful shots will beat 3 BH shots every time for DPS because of the extra shot, neither will have time to shoot Crota after reload.
I also use Dont touch Me throughout, I feel like inverse shadow is probably better than a 4th GG shot anyway, as making your super replenish faster is probably equal or more valuable than the extra shot. And the invisibility perk is just great and can save your butt throughout, not just in the Abyss. Also on the Bridge where there's tons of thralls, and even sometimes with thralls or knights on Crota.
This vid is making me wish I kept my preadyth's though. I sharded it when I got a 331 void LDR. I guess I could always rerun VoG to get it back though!
For health regen on crota hard, well usually I do not take too much damage as I dont run sword (despite being a hunter, never had opportunity). If I do, then I roll with Suros as it's the only health regenner I have. Still looking for red death, Mask of Third Man (although I could have bought that from Xur and passed it up in the past), or best of all a raid helmet with orb regen.
ANOTHER arc damage handcannon?
but wait it not after datto goes out of the subclass
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Red death helps on hard it helps a lot 😂😂
Maybe a little
How the fuck does he have a crest of alpha lupi with intellect for hunter
lepturd my idol
Leopard
I don't like the trip mine because I always kill my self with it haha:(
Cool :)
6:38
WTF !!!
ARC HAWKMOON !!!
YOU OVER POWER LUCKY BASTARD !!!
There is no such thing as an Arc Hawkmoon. The game just lagged when he switched weapon to Hawkmoon, he even said it in the previous video when his team mate had an "Arc The Last Word".
He was probably joking
he is still a lucky bastard
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Hunters r the best
MLG LeopardStealth
Anyone getting really bored of Destiny for now? Have to wait until April, May or even June for some new stuff to come. Thank goodness Evolve is out
Evolve gets pretty boring, pretty quickly. :P
I just love evolve especially with friends and I love the idea of it. Such a different type of game compared to other games being released recently. It's like Destiny. It justs needs more.
Shinya Kogami Ikr, i played the alpha and beta, and got bored.
I don't really like having my fun rely on other's competence.
Have fun with 12 hunters and 3 monsters for 60$
TEAM puff I solo the abyss on hard message me on 360 if you want
Hawkmoon for PvP. Lol
*stealth
Raid gauntlets and chest for regular pvp? Nahhh
get a better cape
#MakeShiftCapeMasterCape
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Bladedancers=scum of pvp
not really. at least gunslinger takes a bit of skill. bladedancer is just a button mash. Not to mention you gain no armour as a gunslinger, meaning you can be killed extremely easily - unlike bladedancer where youre practically invincible, especially with hungering blade
Cody Linzmeier You have not given me one reason why gunslinger is more op
Cody Linzmeier It's funny because you are completely oblivious to how poorly written your argument is. you must literally be 12 years old. All you said was 'gunslinger is worse'. How about you use your tiny brain and try to type out coherently why you think that. Jesus...
omg wtf ahahahaah. i have to address your last bit first cos that made me laugh way too hard. so because i don't reply straight away it means that i've been beaten in the argument? wtf are you stupid? actually why am i asking that question at this stage... it's called having a life buddy, sorry if i don't respond to a youtube keyboard warrior right away! And if you show your friends youtube comment arguments then i already know exactly what kind of kid you are ahahaha. okay now into the actual content which was what we were talking about before you got all buthead and started ranting about jack shit. Firstly, you say the gunslinger is op cos you can one shot from the other side of the map. this is true, i don't deny it, and is one of the strengths of the super. overpowered? maybe. I would also like to point out that i was only ever comparing it to bladedancer and none of the other supers. i never said gunslinger was worse than titan and warlock supers, just that it was worse than bladedancer. Now you didn't make any other arguments apart from the fact that you've killed people in the middle of their supers. congratulations! the supers are designed to cancel eachother out you fuckwit. that doesn't make it op. just like you call kill a bladedancer with foh or a ward of dawn witha nova bomb. Jesus that just doesn't pass through your thick skull. Now I'll give you the reasons why I think bladedancer is more op than gunslinger. Notice how I said 'I think', because I'm not a self-righteous asshole who thinks his opinion is fact and the word of god. Also notice how I'll make a clear and concise argument, something you learn in highschool and higher education but clearly something you will never learn (probs cos you won't get higher education lol).
1. Gunslinger does require some accuracy and skill. When we compare it to bladedancer, one can just spam a single button and clear a whole room. Golden gun requires accuracy to land shots, albeit not that much i will concede.
2. Gunslingers recieve no armour when using their super. Bladedancers become almost invincible, especially coupled with the hungering blade perk. However gunslingers are at normal health, meaning if you're actually a good player in pvp, golden gun can be easily countered by a simple flank.
3. This is kind of an add on from point 2. Bungie has essentially confirmed that bladedancer is more op than gunslinger. You know why? cos gunslinger generates more orbs. When asked why, the bungie pvp devs confirmed it was a way to balance out the classes, cos clearly even they think bladedancer is more overpowered.
4. Throwing knife is a skilled melee ability, unlike blink strike lol. Essentially, bladedancer is for the people who play hunter who are bad at pvp, and gunslinger is for the better players (allthough as with all generalisations, it is not always accurate).
Anyway feel free to comment again and try to rebut some of my arguments relating to the original post and not some rant about how stupid I am. I would be genuinely interested to hear your arguments for why gunslinger is more op than bladedancer. But then again, you're probably too immature to do that. oh well...