Thanks to both you Mr Tim Dunn and all the volunteers at the Talyllyn Railway for all your hard work and dedication in helping preserve our railway heritage and keeping the work of the Rev W Awdry alive for future generations and hope to see you all again soon also here are the dates for our upcoming celebrations on the Isle of Man 🇮🇲 heritage railways the 150th anniversary of the steam railway and the 130th anniversary of the electric railway starting on the 1st of July and until the 10th of September hope to see you there if you have the opportunity 👍❤️
45:13 *raises hand immediately* It was Wilbert, and all of the Awdry family, who brought these stories to life, and documented the history of Sodor and it’s various fleets of railways, roads, and other forms of transportation that has shaped my childhood, and inspired me to make my own stories, and document the history of my home area in Western Australia in the form of a book I’m writing. Cheers to you guys up there in crovan’s gate/towyn, especially to Tim for bringing us this lecture and… I hope that skarloey didn’t clog up his boiler tubes from eating Luke’s laptop 😂
I always believed that the 1 and 2 tacked onto the end of Henry’s was not necessarily proof of a replacement engine but a rebuilt and redesigned locomotive similar to the RAF and Royal Army system of denoting a design change or rebuild to a plane or tank.
Just awesome, so much detail and character. Great presentation from Mr Dunn and amazing complexity and consideration from the Reverend himself. Truly a timeless creator.
@@TalyllynRailway1865 its lovely watching this again. couldn't help notice that Mr Dunn had a steam engine badge on his waist coat. I have one in the form of what must be a GWR 57XX Pannier tank engine. was that meant to be a RWS reference at all? sorry to hear that one of the SKR engines used a lap top as fuel to make a full head of steam
This history is fantastic, I've always loved the deeper lore of Sodor and while fan fleshing outs of the ideas presented in the books are fun, it's nice to know what the (and I use this word carefully) canon of the matter is. Speaking of canon, it's been my head canon that the mainland railways sort of knew Thomas was a troublemaker and lost him on purpose, and were glad to be rid of him when Toppem bought him. With the Fat Controller being the one who later straightened the cheeky little engine out, as it were.
That headcannon does make a lot of sense! And it does explain why the LBSC written off Thomas as "Lost on war service" Thomas has the extended side tanks and arrived on Sodor in 1915 so he has to be built before or around that time. In my headcannon, E2 tank No.105 is Thomas as it was built in 1915 and was the first engine of the class' second batch to have the extended side tanks. So realistically, Thomas has to be No.105 assuming he's not a prototype before that engine as some other headcannons picture Thomas to be Assuming he was sold shortly after being built, then he could've only been with the LBSC for a couple weeks (or a month at a hard push) before he was sold to the NW
42:35 It would be incredible for a George England locomotive to be able to work on the Talyllyn's 2ft 3in gauge! Hopefully the Ffestiniog will build a replica of their No.6 Little Giant one day; perhaps if they do, they can enable for interchangeability between the two gauges - just a thought. Also, love the travel sequence at the beginning - the scene at 3:51 of Tim jogging in front of a Google Maps backdrop had me in stitches!
A lot of real life locos were considered to be same even though the rebuild had only incorporated the frames or smoke box of the original (perhaps even as little as the name and number plates). Had to do with book keeping I think. Easier or cheaper to say 'rebuild' than 'replacement'.
I have one question about sodor, did Wilbert ever do into detail how he came to be on the island of sodor, I apologies if this question has already been answered but I would still like to know
Here are some things I noticed as well as some questions: -Tim pronounced “Harwick” as “Harrick”. This reminds me of a theory I’ve had recently. British town names like Norwich and Greenwich are pronounced as “Norrich” and “Grenich” respectively with a silent W. And Harwick is very much spelt with a W in the middle. Does this mean we’re pronouncing Harwick wrong and have been doing it for years? -Do the notes say what happened to Neil after the NWR was formed? Was he preserved? Was he scrapped? WHAT HAPPENED?! -What is the Tidmouth Kipper Smoking Process? -Why did the notes (And for that matter, the IOS book) never mention the Cronk and Harwick Rly or the Ballaswein Tramway? Did Wilbert forget about those? It certainly is unusual to forget something that appeared when he first constructed the lore. I’m not making that up. The Tramway has been a thing since the 1950s. Look up Awdry’s 1950s Sodor Map. It’s there. -Where is any mention of Bloomer? Was he is these notes? If so, how did we find out about him?
From the wiki “Although the fate of the latter is unknown, Neil was sold to the Crovan's Gate Mining Company to take slate from the transhipment sidings at Crovan's Gate to Kirk Ronan Harbour.”
@@norrambyproductions8364 I know that, but I was referring to what happened after being bought by the CGMCo., hence why I said after the NWR was formed. Was he scrapped? Was he saved like “Old Copperknob”?
@@rikkilamb Well, yes, but everyone has been pronouncing it as “Harwick” for so long that it’s natural. So, my question boils down to is it like Norwich, or is it like Sandwich where the “W” is part of the pronunciation?
The island is really a fictional island but however fantasy can be good because of the wide variety of negativity that is heard WAY too often on the news such as greed which is what our major corporations adore and the great big around of shootings that is going on. Although that I don't ever remember a theater being on the island in any of the Thomas seasons, but when a couple of the castles were reopened, one of them held concerts. So I think there may have been a theater inside one of those castles.
Thank u Tim & Talyllyn Railway 4 letting us in2 Ur v v Special Railway World of the saintly Rev Awdry together with d Tim Dunn Christmas Railroad tartan check pyjama striptease (or rather Eurovision) reveal - !!! - I have a dear fellow Railfan that will b joining me 4 our annual excursion 2 the Brisbane Model Railway Show @ The Ekka Brisbane Qld Australia 🇦🇺 & my trains buddy is of the Royal Loyal Order of Rail Enthusiast Official Thomas "Haters" ... So Dear Tim, Luke & Talyllyn ... Thank u just so v v much 4 Ur wonderful series of tongue - in - cheek Thomas & Awdry Extravaganza Videos, Lectures & Tours vidz on Utube with which 2 totally 107% torment my Thomas "hater" Rail Enthusiast friend ... Together with at least 20-30 x videos of Thomas encased or Thomas blue impersonating (QR DD17 / E2 "Blue Baby") Heritage Railway Locos incl'g Puffing Billy's of Belgrave, Vic's "Thomas #1" Peckett #1711 (aka "Sir John Grice") - Thank u once again 4 the Awdry Lectures (incl d repeat performance) by Sir Lord Dunn Esq via Sodor & It's Superior Tasteful Railway Architecture - !!! - Don (Wingco) Paterson of Dicky Beach via Caloundra, Sunshine Coast, QLD Australia 🇦🇺
@@TalyllynRailway1865 fair enough. I do it from time to time myself but still just doesn't feel right in some areas when we know the gender of the character.
I used to love Thomas the Tank Engine stories as a kid, but more recently it has become hideously pc and is now a huge turn off! It’s a disgrace now and Wilbert Awdry would be outraged!
Thank you for letting me join your very special branch of the railway family.
No no. Thank YOU for such a lovely film & early birthday gift!
You, sir, have great talent. Keep it up!
Thanks to both you Mr Tim Dunn and all the volunteers at the Talyllyn Railway for all your hard work and dedication in helping preserve our railway heritage and keeping the work of the Rev W Awdry alive for future generations and hope to see you all again soon also here are the dates for our upcoming celebrations on the Isle of Man 🇮🇲 heritage railways the 150th anniversary of the steam railway and the 130th anniversary of the electric railway starting on the 1st of July and until the 10th of September hope to see you there if you have the opportunity 👍❤️
Tim Dunn - Our Earl of Sodor
I'll drink to that
"Tim was a tram engine, and was named after His Grace, Tim Dunn. Other engines came and went, but Tim outlasted them all."
The real life one
Does Tim Dunn have a Facebook
@@ThatScottishAtlantic57 You and me both, man.
2:10 that traveling sequence is a pure beauty XD
Yes indeed
45:13 *raises hand immediately*
It was Wilbert, and all of the Awdry family, who brought these stories to life, and documented the history of Sodor and it’s various fleets of railways, roads, and other forms of transportation that has shaped my childhood, and inspired me to make my own stories, and document the history of my home area in Western Australia in the form of a book I’m writing.
Cheers to you guys up there in crovan’s gate/towyn, especially to Tim for bringing us this lecture and…
I hope that skarloey didn’t clog up his boiler tubes from eating Luke’s laptop 😂
"A. W. Dry and Company"
I see what you did there, Wilbert!
Was this the one performed at the awdry extravaganza last year?
Yes!
This is going to be very exciting to see, for sure.
Uploaded a day before my birthday! Thank you, Tim. This is a lovely gift!
Happy (possibly belated/early) birthday!
It’s really tomorrow. Thanks either way!
@@peterrraklliproductions2020 oof
Me: not understanding a 12 minute math video
Also me: watches a 40+ minute video of TTTE lore
Also skarloey eating a computer is very hilarious
28:39 Wait who was destroyed in a fire? Henry 1 or Edward?
It was their dossiers (a collection of documents) that were destroyed, not the locomotives themselves.
Very nice
Thoroughly enjoyed this delightful tale. So much more to add to my visits to Talyllyn. Timeless
I always believed that the 1 and 2 tacked onto the end of Henry’s was not necessarily proof of a replacement engine but a rebuilt and redesigned locomotive similar to the RAF and Royal Army system of denoting a design change or rebuild to a plane or tank.
45:13 *raises hands* my thanks to the Awdry family for being the resion we have thomas and his friends to enjoy
The true railways of sodor was the friends we made a long the way
Just awesome, so much detail and character. Great presentation from Mr Dunn and amazing complexity and consideration from the Reverend himself. Truly a timeless creator.
when the tickets for the Awdry Extravaganza come out 😃
Thanks for the lecture mate, I am always happy to watch something involving Sudrian history, especially if it is done by Tim Dunn.
Thank you, Tim Dunn.
The dread getting to Henry is real, you just know his history is like ↖️↗️↘️↙️
When you want an Atlantic, but you get Henry:
While it's probably to early to ask. But will this video stay up after the premiere like the Narrow Gauge Railways of Sodor lecture?
This video will be kept up as long as UA-cam is up!
@@TalyllynRailway1865 its lovely watching this again. couldn't help notice that Mr Dunn had a steam engine badge on his waist coat. I have one in the form of what must be a GWR 57XX Pannier tank engine. was that meant to be a RWS reference at all?
sorry to hear that one of the SKR engines used a lap top as fuel to make a full head of steam
30:50 wow. Never would've thought he was a hush hush project to the extent to where he didn't have a gnr number
Eating a laptop sounds more like something Duncan would do than Skarloey
I won’t be able to watch this live, as it’s at 4:30 AM for me, but will this still be up afterwards?
Yep! This will remain up as long as UA-cam is haha
0:50 - 0:52, "Skarloey ate my laptop!"🤣😂
This history is fantastic, I've always loved the deeper lore of Sodor and while fan fleshing outs of the ideas presented in the books are fun, it's nice to know what the (and I use this word carefully) canon of the matter is.
Speaking of canon, it's been my head canon that the mainland railways sort of knew Thomas was a troublemaker and lost him on purpose, and were glad to be rid of him when Toppem bought him.
With the Fat Controller being the one who later straightened the cheeky little engine out, as it were.
That headcannon does make a lot of sense! And it does explain why the LBSC written off Thomas as "Lost on war service"
Thomas has the extended side tanks and arrived on Sodor in 1915 so he has to be built before or around that time. In my headcannon, E2 tank No.105 is Thomas as it was built in 1915 and was the first engine of the class' second batch to have the extended side tanks. So realistically, Thomas has to be No.105 assuming he's not a prototype before that engine as some other headcannons picture Thomas to be
Assuming he was sold shortly after being built, then he could've only been with the LBSC for a couple weeks (or a month at a hard push) before he was sold to the NW
Skarloey eating Luke Ryan’s laptop = cannon I don’t care you say
It was great to see this live at Awdry Ex 2 in the summer. Are there more documents to be discovered for Awdry Ex 3....?
3:53 THAT WAS THE BEST PART OF THAT TRAVEL SEQUENCE 😂😂😂
Amazing
42:35 It would be incredible for a George England locomotive to be able to work on the Talyllyn's 2ft 3in gauge! Hopefully the Ffestiniog will build a replica of their No.6 Little Giant one day; perhaps if they do, they can enable for interchangeability between the two gauges - just a thought. Also, love the travel sequence at the beginning - the scene at 3:51 of Tim jogging in front of a Google Maps backdrop had me in stitches!
I wish you a swift recovery Tim Dunn.
You have done a great job but, sounds and looks suffering from a bad winter cold.
Our True Lord Of Sodor
Hold on. How can Gordon remember going to London if he was never put into traffic before he was bought by the North Western?
He was never put into *regular* traffic, he would have been to London a few times when on trial runs.
this is so well made XDD
I love to think that Henry 1 and Henry 2 are the same by reusing the boiler of Henry 1 on Henry 2
A lot of real life locos were considered to be same even though the rebuild had only incorporated the frames or smoke box of the original (perhaps even as little as the name and number plates). Had to do with book keeping I think. Easier or cheaper to say 'rebuild' than 'replacement'.
Why the boiler?
I have one question about sodor, did Wilbert ever do into detail how he came to be on the island of sodor, I apologies if this question has already been answered but I would still like to know
Tim is bloody funny 😂
Here are some things I noticed as well as some questions:
-Tim pronounced “Harwick” as “Harrick”. This reminds me of a theory I’ve had recently. British town names like Norwich and Greenwich are pronounced as “Norrich” and “Grenich” respectively with a silent W. And Harwick is very much spelt with a W in the middle. Does this mean we’re pronouncing Harwick wrong and have been doing it for years?
-Do the notes say what happened to Neil after the NWR was formed? Was he preserved? Was he scrapped? WHAT HAPPENED?!
-What is the Tidmouth Kipper Smoking Process?
-Why did the notes (And for that matter, the IOS book) never mention the Cronk and Harwick Rly or the Ballaswein Tramway? Did Wilbert forget about those? It certainly is unusual to forget something that appeared when he first constructed the lore. I’m not making that up. The Tramway has been a thing since the 1950s. Look up Awdry’s 1950s Sodor Map. It’s there.
-Where is any mention of Bloomer? Was he is these notes? If so, how did we find out about him?
From the wiki “Although the fate of the latter is unknown, Neil was sold to the Crovan's Gate Mining Company to take slate from the transhipment sidings at Crovan's Gate to Kirk Ronan Harbour.”
@@norrambyproductions8364 I know that, but I was referring to what happened after being bought by the CGMCo., hence why I said after the NWR was formed. Was he scrapped? Was he saved like “Old Copperknob”?
Harwick is pronounced Harrick like Warwick is Warrick and Greenwich is grenich.
@@rikkilamb Well, yes, but everyone has been pronouncing it as “Harwick” for so long that it’s natural. So, my question boils down to is it like Norwich, or is it like Sandwich where the “W” is part of the pronunciation?
@rraklliandgionisproduction8244 The easy answer is it's a silent W
I just wanna know how Skarloey ate Luke’s laptop. Did he eat it the same way they “eat” coal or did he do it with his mouth 🤔
Skarloey eating computer, awesome
Nuclear Powered Thomas 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Choo Choo, Thomas the Tank engine coming into Tidmouth with the Nuclear Train. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Þat travel sequence was hilarious lmaooooo
The isle of man has great public transport
Henry was supposed to be a GNR C1 Large Boiler, not a Robinson Atlantic
Wow
The island is really a fictional island but however fantasy can be good because of the wide variety of negativity that is heard WAY too often on the news such as greed which is what our major corporations adore and the great big around of shootings that is going on. Although that I don't ever remember a theater being on the island in any of the Thomas seasons, but when a couple of the castles were reopened, one of them held concerts. So I think there may have been a theater inside one of those castles.
the green screen and editing tho 🤣
🙋
I'm curious about what happened in WW2? Did the nazis ever bomb Sodor?
1237th
Thank u Tim & Talyllyn Railway 4 letting us in2 Ur v v Special Railway World of the saintly Rev Awdry together with d Tim Dunn Christmas Railroad tartan check pyjama striptease (or rather Eurovision) reveal - !!! - I have a dear fellow Railfan that will b joining me 4 our annual excursion 2 the Brisbane Model Railway Show @ The Ekka Brisbane Qld Australia 🇦🇺 & my trains buddy is of the Royal Loyal Order of Rail Enthusiast Official Thomas "Haters" ... So Dear Tim, Luke & Talyllyn ... Thank u just so v v much 4 Ur wonderful series of tongue - in - cheek Thomas & Awdry Extravaganza Videos, Lectures & Tours vidz on Utube with which 2 totally 107% torment my Thomas "hater" Rail Enthusiast friend ... Together with at least 20-30 x videos of Thomas encased or Thomas blue impersonating (QR DD17 / E2 "Blue Baby") Heritage Railway Locos incl'g Puffing Billy's of Belgrave, Vic's "Thomas #1" Peckett #1711 (aka "Sir John Grice") - Thank u once again 4 the Awdry Lectures (incl d repeat performance) by Sir Lord Dunn Esq via Sodor & It's Superior Tasteful Railway Architecture - !!! - Don (Wingco) Paterson of Dicky Beach via Caloundra, Sunshine Coast, QLD Australia 🇦🇺
Didn't he mean burnt not ate
Nope
14:55 WAIT! NO! HE is NOT a girl!
The Rev Awdry was writing in the traditional sense of Locomotives being female, as many railway workers still do.
@@TalyllynRailway1865 fair enough. I do it from time to time myself but still just doesn't feel right in some areas when we know the gender of the character.
I'm questioning why this is edited like a Caddicarus video.
Looking forward to the new book - ‘Thomas and the Yellow Coal’ which is sure to keep all the save the planet econutters happy 😎
I used to love Thomas the Tank Engine stories as a kid, but more recently it has become hideously pc and is now a huge turn off! It’s a disgrace now and Wilbert Awdry would be outraged!