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2020 Kia Stinger GTS AWD | The Stinger With A Drift Mode
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2019
- Kia's Stinger is already a Korean drift machine when optioned with RWD, but if you want AWD traction and epic drifting at an affordable price, you now have a new option: the Stinger GTS. The only real change between this trim and the GT1/GT2 trims is the drift mode as all of the other tweaks are cosmetic only. If my cash were on the line? I think I'd just get a GT2 and leave the drifting to Ken Block.
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You are one of the main reasons I purchased my 2019 GT2 AWD......all the reasons you gave plus I enjoyed my entry level Optima for 8yrs......looking forward to another 6-9 yrs of blissful fun with this German crafted machine that still is a #neckbreaker
Lawrence Williams charger scatpack>
@@GLA45Amg716 not with that interior! Great look but.....
Do the rear seats fold down?
@@Foregrlz and not with that Dodge "(un)reliability." Lol
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I have a Stinger GT base RWD and i absolutely love it every single time I drive it. It's an amazingly satisfying car. It's poised and easy to live with, but when you want the power, it's amazing, without losing its composure.
Exactly the way I would purchase mine. Base GT rwd over GT2. Max power at the least weight. It might not have the adaptive dampers, but I am willing to bet with the weight savings and utilizing equal drivers, it would be fractionally quicker.
If you are into modding, like intake, exhaust and a race chip, the AWD is the way to go. I can drift even with AWD, putting around 420HP to the wheels. It's...not slow.
@@St1ngerGuy Sounds like a blast.
@@St1ngerGuy one could rebutle that with the RWD trim being abiut 220 lbs lighter. RWD Stingers are around 3900lbs, AWD at 4100+. Also, with added power, especially with a JB4 tuner, you can limit boost in the first 3 gears to your liking to aid traction although, I will say my RWD GT hooks up no problem on Map2 which is around 400+whp and 500+ wtrq with the Mich. Pilot Sport 4s.
I remain impressed with the Stinger. It does so many things, and it presumably enjoys modern Kia reliability. The price is remarkably competitive, so I think the Stinger is a firmly sensible way to have an extremely fun daily driver.
P.S. Liftbacks are awesome.
Pikminiman I love my GT2. It’s been trouble free and it’s a HOOT to drive!
@@CapELarry Same here, my GT2's been trouble-free and a hoot to drive ^^ What a car!
3rd GT2 owner here and I agree, the thing is a blast and I'm always looking for fun places to drive it. I love it!
Wish mine was trouble free. Had it for 4 months and it spent a month of those 4 in the shop. Kia couldn’t fix it and wouldn’t give me a new car. Horrible customer service.
@@micahbaldridge5782 What was wrong with it? Were they able to resolve it?
7 more months of saving and it will be MINE! Been waiting since I saw the first stinger review in 2018.
same here too~~~
wow only 7 month?
I have to save 4 more year
ㅜ ㅜ good for ya and good luck with stinger !
We’re getting close! I just picked mine up two days ago couldn’t be happier, enjoy it!
The stinger badge at the rear is awesome
The Stinger is a great looking car. Saw it at the OC auto show and it is really good looking in person.
As someone who is 6'3" I appreciate that the Stinger has way more FRONT legroom than say, an Accord.
I got my Stinger GT2 AWD about two months ago and I absolutely love it. My other option was Audi A5 but I chose stinger because of performance. You can do a little bit of the drift but it feels so controllable and acceleration is more than enough to impress friends. This car turns heads and you will get a lot of thumbs up on the road and probably people will ask you what this is in gas stations. The technology is not as advanced as something like an Audi but it’s certainly more than enough. Overall ride is really comfortable and fun. If you really love this car, go for it and you won’t regret. Just be prepared for people’s underestimating comments comparing this to a honda civic or other economy cars cause no one knows what a Stinger has got!
Im cross shopping the 2 as well. A5 and the Stinger. Have you driven both and decided on the Stinger?
jg_kman I did not. What features are more important for you?
@@rezaf93 I want some performance as well as the fuel economy. I know the A5 wont be as loaded as a similar priced Stinger but Im planning to test drive both 1st
jg_kman with Stinger, you won’t get a good fuel economy, but the power is satisfying. My MPG is around 18 in city and 25 highway if you drive normally. But something about Audi is the high maintenance cost and worst warranty if that matters to you.
I’ve only seen two Stingers ever. I really want one. The Stinger and K900 are extremely competent vehicles. Kia has stepped it up a lot in the last few years
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this car! But rumor here in Korea is that the Stinger is getting a major refresh next year. Specifically, a tweaked suspension, full digital cockpit and most importantly, the option of the new 2.5 and 3.5 TT engines! Worth waiting for? I think so!
Oh hell yeah
@@99mattdogg Actually, they have confirmed the refresh will debut in July of 2020! Can't wait to see it!
@@johnholst I'm coming for that 3.5L model 😈
Love my 3.3 AWD GT2. I recommend it very highly. Give it a try!
Love my Stinger AWD GT2 as a winter car here in Sweden.
I have the GT2 for a year now and loving it. Car gets compliments all the time. It’s an all round player that is comfortable, luxurious, very sporty and has all the tech I need. I would do it all over again, it’s a blast to drive!
What an awesome Orange!!! I wish more car companies offered bright, fun colors.
Since this car came to the market, I believe that most German cars have become somewhat emotionally boring and price/quality/performance wise overrated.
So, I love how in depth Alex gets with his reviews, even going as far as covering how well child seats fit, but he never gives any insight as to how the factory stereo system performs. Features are one thing but I would like to know his opinion on how the stereo sounds and where it could be improved upon.
do you think he even listens to any music? also if manufacturer pays him enough to sing he will review every detail XD
I just got my 2019 Kia Stinger GT in Panthera Metal ... this car is awesome I have Borla exhaust system which sound freaky amazing and 19in rims(NICHE) . I also have Stinger badge on the front and rear but I should have upgraded to the GT 1 for the speakers. I guess I will just put some after market speakers. This car is freaky ass sexy..people come up to me asking what is this since I took off the Kia badges.
I'm picking my GT2 up next week. I can't wait to take possession of it, excited to say the least. I had never heard of this car until about a month ago.
Stinger is an excellent car. For the money it’s hard to beat. I own an Audi S3 Quattro and the new 2020 BMW M340 xdrive. Both are excellent with the BMW being the more comfortable of the 2. I wish Kia would have an optional digital cockpit like Audi and BMW. Maybe it would be something available down the road. Great review!
I was interested in your comments comparing the Stinger to the A5 Sportback. I actual made that very decision in February of 2019. When I set out I was pretty sure I was going to get the Stinger. I liked that I could get what was essentially an 'S' model for the same price as an 'A' model in the Audi. I liked the styling. I just thought overall it was a great car. Then I walked into the dealerships. The first Kia dealer I went to wanted to run a credit check on me before they'd let me drive it. I allowed it, but they ran a hard check rather than a soft check, so now I've got that on my credit report for the next two years. The second dealer was a little better, but when it came time to talk numbers they automatically added a clear bra, pre-paid maintenance, and a few other items to the bottom line price. Kia needs to get their dealer act together if they want to sell $50k cars. The experience at the Audi dealer was just so much better, being treated professionally and like someone who was ready to drop $50k on a car. I also was concerned about the long-term quality of the Kia, which has turned out to be somewhat of a valid concern, what with the paint scandal on the yellow and reports of squeaks and rattles developing that the dealership has no idea how to fix.
This is a cool Kia .
One of the best cars I ever owned.... Love driving my 2019 Stinger GT
I adore the Stinger. It's still well out of my stingy and practical range, but... waaaaaaaant.
I thought Stinger sales were a little low so I assume there are some good deals. Perhaps paint/wrap the fake vents in body color. Saw a few of them last summer but not seen any lately, they are hidden by Model-3s!
I will be buying a stinger 2.0 T as my next car but of course in the top trim.or at least equivalent to the safety features that I'm used to on my Sonata Limited. Heated and cooled interior sunroof heated steering wheel Lane assist. Active cruise control and all those other little safety things you know so you can blind spot warning and so on
Funny, I was, as you , shopping for more practical crossover and almost bought a 19 Outback last year, but saw this and fell in love too... I put an offer on outback premium trim and sales manager wouldn't go for it.. I didn't counter offer.. and kept thinking about it, test drove this 2nd time and went for it instead of the practical car... Love it !! NO Regrets !! I assume you have a family with kids and need the practical suv/cuv... i hope you decide on a personal car and get one soon.... :-) Awesome Car !! As you say, with the price in the equation, this is likely the BEST Sports Sedan on the planet !
You helped sell me mine as well. I got the base GT AWD black on red and I LOVE it. The only change I'd make really is maybe give the car a bit more tire than 225s. Great car.
I think the real tough choice is between the Stinger VS g70. Either of these easily win car-for-money wise against the other competitions you mentioned.
Larry...Agreed! Personally, I'd take the G70 as it has a nicer interior and, imo, exterior. And I don't have kids to cart around, so I'm more interested in the superior driving dynamic.
How much of the diff in terms of performance between the stinger and g70 ( same engine )? Thank you
@@alvaromacedo2622 0-60 is 4.5 in the G70 and 4.7 in the Stinger. The G70 has a sportier ride, while the Stinger is more comfortable.
That s very close 0-60, for me it will be which one i can get a better deal. Genesis in the area that live is not very good, comparing with Canada which is so much better something to consider when you buy a new car. Thank you.
I thought I was going to see @AlexonAutos do some drifting! Bummer
Having driven this, Kia is VASTLY underrating the power of this engine because this car is fast as hell. It’s so fast, that I bought the Acura TLX because I was scared of the power.
Ohad Paran your rite I own a 18 GT these cars on the dyno are 343 whp so it’s more like 390hp to the crank. Where the really underrate the car is it’s torque it’s not 375 lbs/ ft it’s actually 386 so it’s much more powerful Kia pulled a BMW with underrating their engines
Robert B I knew it! Those numbers are so interesting. Did you dyno yours just for fun/info, or do you track it?
Ohad Paran no not yet building her up first then track.
Alex, I will be getting a Stinger GT1. Do you recommend RWD or AWD living in sunny, snow free AZ?
I like the shift by wire in the GT2 models...i don't like the idea that it always switch back to drive out of sport mode after you stop every time! Nice car overall.
Love my Kia Stinger GT2. One thing people miss is how nice a winter car it is. It eats through the snow here in Sweden, and above all, the turbo is tested at -25 C, at that temp, you are not even supposed to start the competitors cars.. That is huge.
Too bad they didn't want to lift the car out of the brand. It should be Stinger, sold at Stinger stores, because the brand does drive off customers. People will go for a Mustang over this, though their loss really.. :P
I had a 12 speed Nishiki in 1979 that color.
'79 it is far back , now it's 12 speeds on the cassette alone even without having two front chainrings
Surprised that there was barely a mention of the Genesis cousins in the "cross shopping" portion of the video. G70/G80?
Price wise, it's hard to justify even the G70 unless you're a hyper-stickler for build quality and looking for a bit of a flex. I'm not sure they're really competitors; their markets are too distinct, despite their underlying similarities.
Have a G80. Love It.
I have a Genesis G70. Love It!
With that said, this is a beautiful color, and a beautiful vehicle.
I found the Genesis nicer but a bit too cramped in the rear compared to the Stinger.
The g70 would be the cross shopped cousin. The Cadenza would be the cousin to g80. I have a Cadenza, and I frickin love my car; it is a very unknown car, and people tell me how nice it looks, and are always shocked that "its a Kia". I hope my next car will be a k900, or a stinger.
One of my favorite cars.
The transfer of power to front is electronic so you can get a GT1 or GT2 and simply take out the fuse for the AWD system and voila RWD. You could easily put in a toggle switch in the cabin to switch to RWD only mode. Me I don't feel the need with it in sport it's 80% to the rear and feels like a rwd car
Kia motors missed a Scorpion logo on the GTS🤔, Hopefully, if added for the next release in the future?😉
The Stinger might be a good replacement for my 16 340i
Aside from a few cheap pieces in the interior, Stinger will fulfill your needs 😇
The color choices are so limited on the Stinger. AND they cancelled the 'Atlantica' special edition which was the perfect color combo on this car :(
bren rob it was only a limited run. This one is also only a limited run, so go buy one if you can afford it. I cannot, otherwise, I'd be in tomorrow to buy one.
It's called the indigo edition. They just changed the name and limited it to 500 world wide with 55 in the US.
Pumpkin orange and drift mode...just what I've been wanting in a car for the last 40 years! GT2 in white with red interiors, please! ///
What I can't get over this great vehicle is the (from the sides) the C-Pillar copy of the Optima with the two chrome strips drooping towards the trunk - and - the also Optima looks from the rear view of the trunk/bumper design. Worse even is the ....YEEECH!.... curved line from the upper rear glass meeting the rear roofline. Looks too Oriental in design and cheap to me as it reminds me of the lower priced family member already mentioned twice here. Look at that rear roof- to -upper glass straight line on the G70, which looks more elegant, more dare I say, Germanic.
I still don't get it.... is this above GT1 and GT2 or below?!?! If below, why the hell would you name the car GTS!?!?!?!
Very good review as always. The Pacific Northwest is pretty awesome 😎. Seattle is not too bad either. Love all the information. I am a technical person so the more data, the better.
Great review! I would choose the Stinger too!
Id just get the RWD version. I do wish this car was more fun like the G70 but it is what it is. Very nice car overall. I could care less about the safety systems unlike Alex. I want to drive, not the computers
It's all good, but Alex is right... Only GT2 gets upgraded shifter knob and that actually does make a huge difference in the interior design and all. Tbh, GT2 is the only package to go for IMO and so glad that we went with it. Now only if that GT2 package is offered on in line 4 turbo... Hm...
Exactly I would like to see a Prestige package like the 2.0 G 70 has which is GT 2 content with 2.0 liter engine and awd
@@davidaskew5425 better yet... GT2 packaging for the manual on G70... (since inline 4 turbo does come with it)
Thanks for the review, Alex! I know it's not your style, but would it be worth mentioning that a simple thicker sway bar replacement gets rid of that rear end lift problem you mention?
Wow! That was a great review; thanks.
Alex- Please, please, please find a new sound for the beginning of your videos. It's torture when it plays.
I'll continue to thumbs down every video that plays that awful theme. Alex doesn't read comments so this point is mute.
Nevermind the comparison you talked about Alex. I want to know if you would take this over a Kia Cadenza!!! ;)
I was impressed by the Stinger when it was introduced and I remain impressed. Have to say, though, that this particular color appears to have been aimed at customers in Austin, Texas, Knoxville, Tennessee, and Syracuse, New York. Many years ago it was reliably reported that a large portion of orange Oldsmobile Cutlasses were parked in lots next to UT sorority houses in Austin. I suspect the same phenomenon may await this version of the Stinger. :)
I live in Knoxville, and have not seen one GTS here yet, but Stingers in general are quite common. Orange Jeeps are everywhere though.
Very good review
This car is phenomenal..BUT, I don't like super tail happy cars and I'd prefer to keep the ACC and HUD on the GT2 trim models.
Charlie_Willie I daily drive my GT and it is not super tail happy at all. Leave the traction and stability control and it will reward you with constant grip. I’ve never had an issue with the back end wanting to come greet me when I didn’t want it to
Like was mentioned leave the nannies on and you will be very confident. If you want to turn it into a hooligan turn the nannies off, then it's definitely a little tail happy. It naturally oversteers but it's nothing unwieldy for daily driving.
Christopher Keeler Ever think that you and I don’t drive the same way?
Daniel Boyd Still doesn’t have ACC and HUD
@@ThousanWhite I wasn't commenting on the GTS trim specifically. I was focusing on your tail happy comment
Stinger vs Miata, which one do you choose.., only for comfort long-drive fun
It's like a 4 door budget corvette.
As Corvette's a budget supercar?
Upgrade the sway bars and that rear end lift goes away entirely. You point, it shoots.
Alex, how would you compare this to the Audi S5 Sportback (vs the A5)?
Comparably speced S5 and Stinger will be similarly quick and the Audi has a beautiful interior. But it's also about 20+K more expensive and less reliable.
Driven this and the A4/A5 Sportback. The A5 Sportback is quieter and more refined, it's also more fuel efficient, BUT the leases on those are terrible. You could get a GT2 on lease for about $600/mo for a 36 month least with 15k miles.
An A5 Sportback - unless it's on clearance - /starts/ around $650/mo. (It was going for about $525-$550/mo in December, though. That's a good time to get it.)
As far as road speeds go, to be honest, while the engine in the A4/A5 is "less powerful", the car itself CAN PULL. I've taken an A4 anywhere from 0 to 120 on the highway - it /always/ can pull, no matter how fast or slow you are going, and it's always a "I didn't know I can do that WOW" feeling.
The Stinger and G70 3.3T have "slower" transmissions - so while off the line performance is good, the weird thing is they don't "feel" as fast.
So weirdly enough, I think that the A4 actually "feels" faster, the sound system is better (with the B&O), and there's a rock solid bank vault feel that is oddly relaxing. Like you could do 90 in that thing and it's like 50 in any other car.
As for the S4/S5 - that's a whole different world. The S4 accelerated so quickly that I had a difficult time actually keeping my foot on the petal, even with a rolling start. The G70 (3.3T) was fast, but I didn't feel /that/ except at standing starts. Transmission is a bit more engaging in the A4 (cause of the dual clutch, the click/click/chunk is more satisfying), but that S4 is insane.
Overall, I'd still buy a spec'd out A4/A5 over a Kia Stinger 3.3T. Now when they come out with the 2.5T in a few months, and you're comparing to mid-level Accords, that's a more interesting argument.
Alex, you forgot this: Kia’s warranty. BMW nor Audi will guarantee their powertrains for 10 years or 100,000 miles.
isn't the torque start at 1500 rpm on the 3.3 ? or did it and now they've modified it to start lower ? which is awesome for performance, but likely not as good for fuel economy ?
The fact: All Kia Stingers comes with launch control stan6.
Under only one circumstance that I'll buy a Korean car is I'm looking for a cheap second transportation tool as my back up vehicle. My main vehicle must be a Japanese car. Why? It's very simple, Japanese car is very reliable; good on gas and fun to drive. The most important part is it has an excellent resale value
I'd love a GT1
It’s odd it doesn’t have cooled seats. My 2019 GT2 has ventilated cooling and heated seats. Heated seats in the rear seats as well. I wouldn’t buy this version vs the GT2. In the Sports mode with AWD I’ve never felt any movement in the rear and that’s when driving very aggressively. In summary, if this had a different badge it would sell for 25k plus more.
Ditto! Another great review.
I bought a gts because i wanted a stinger that focused on performance and not all the bullshit safety and nanny systems.....i dont care about the stuff that comes in gt1 and Gt2 trims. The only thing i wished it came with is the performance center dash screen you mentioned early in the vid
You need to do a one on one with a Charger 5.7 hemi.
Alex, the leg room portion, how does this compare with the q50 since you compared this car with the size of g70
How do you put it into drift mode?
Hey Alex, is This Stinger is faster than Q50 RED SPORT 400? or they same in terms of straight line performance?
He's the same guy on Redline reviews and he does an awesome job on this channel as well.
Alex is not Sofyan, who hosts Redline Reviews, however I think they're friends.
It would be so easy for Kia to have a direct competitor to the Mustang : a two-door Stinger ...sorry 3-doors : keep the useful hatch but abandoned the rear doors .
Can GT2 drift too? Or is it a GTS only and RWD only deal?
Damn. 4.4 to 60 and a sweet daily driver..... Want so bad..... Don't have the money to sacrifice for it though.
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If my budget was just a little bit higher, I would have bought a Stinger.
How do you put it into the drift mode though?I cant find how to do it anywhere
Traction control off
Stability control off
And put it in the manual mode.
There is no single switch to activate the drift mode. This reviewer didn’t even mention it in the video when the title said otherwise
@@Warrior11117 wow that's it. Thank you I was looking everywhere For a physical switch or in screen menu option. Appreciate it
If you want to drift your AWD 2018 or 2019 just take out the AWD fuse. bam... RWD.
With out the LSD that only comes in the AWD GTS it wont stay side ways very long before the rear corrects the skid.
@@InfoumusMOBB ya i know what you mean i drive my awd in rwd mostly and even in wet it doesent go side ways well.
Or just pull the front diff fuse on your GT2 AWD and presto, GTS.
Grand Touring... Drifter. GTD.
Great car
6:50 ehh those ugly Kia shifter button, haha I was charging my iMiEV at the dealership and was looking at the Stingers next door. $50k. An old timer was also looking and loved that it was RWD. I trying talking him into a Model 3 for that kind of money.😆
Bob Ranch People make comments about other cars besides the Kia as an option for purchase, and while I agree that you might be able to find a better deal, I always come back to maintenance. I've owned an Audi, and watched my money piss out the windows, and convinced myself that that was the price of owning a better car, but since I sold that, and bought a Cadenza, I now know that isn't the case. Upkeep for the Kia is cheap as hell, even out of warranty. Good luck with that Tesla out of warranty.
When will you get the 2020 Ford Escape for an at home review?
No drifting?!
Agreed the gts should be loaded like a gt2
mcd5082 but the price would climb even higher. Would people buy a $60 k Kia? I would, but I cant afford a $50 k Kia.
Hows the resale been on these ?
Even with lease cash from kia over $10,000 and plus dealer discount of at least 10% to 15%, I ended up $4000 upside down when I traded it in for another car, and it was the best offer I could get from anywhere.
www.motor1.com/news/371419/kia-stinger-no-future-decision/
My only real problem with the stinger in Canada is how much it costs. In Canada it is $45 to 52K which is well into V8 territory of the big 3 "Muscle" cars
Which V8 can you get from Big 3 in that price?
@@matrix0683 up here, all of them? All 3 start at $39,500 in canada for v8 models
@@B-iz2im not that it was the point of this thread, so it doesn't matter, but are you certain on that? Car and driver is not so certain
Ed...While those cars are great "bang for buck", in reality, they don't compare to the Stinger. The Mustang and Camaro have useless back seats. And the Challenger has that big, "muscle car" feel. The Stinger is closer to a near luxury GT car. And in that case, you can't get anything in Canada that compares to this in terms of value.
I love how the Stinger drives...but I can’t get over how meh the interior is and how the side profile is identical to the 2011-2015 Optima. After driving an Optima for 8 years I want something different.
I’m hoping the next generation if they make one will change things up a little bit.
Also drove an Optima for 8yrs and after 4 months of owning the Stinger GT2 AWD, there is no comparison despite the slight visual similarity....
That is an ugly shifter on an otherwise handsome interior.
I thought the same too. Looks very cheap
The one in the GT2 has a drive by wire shifter. Looks and feels really good.
Damn they could’ve put a spoiler on ot
RuffBuff716 yeah but I’m glad they didn’t!
Huh, they still make this? I thought the paint fell off of those and Kia canceled them.
Is it me -- or am I the only one wondering if there's really a "drifter market" out there? Who's buying the Stinger to go drifting??
when i see the stinger i think it needs a decent sized wing on the rear, it looks to passive
Man, I would feel super awkward doing a video like this with someone in the car with me.
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I have a Stinger GT, and it's a nice car, but in hindsight what I really wanted was a "balls out" performance car, which Alex accurately stated the Kia is not.
Tempers cooled or your wife said #NO!
Total cost of the interior? $1.98
The interior of this car is beautiful.
David I hope you don't drive a Dodge charger or Chevy Impala and your talking shit about this car
@@vegasman33322 Seriously
@@rmknicks of course
www.motor1.com/news/371419/kia-stinger-no-future-decision/
Why would you buy a car with a feature..you cannot use correctly? How much is the Kia Stinger GTS? $44,000 😂😂😂
Problem with asian cars (except japanese) they are trying to copy the german ones. The vent and dashboard on this looks lke from Mercedes
It was designed by a German engineer that worked for kia
This review totally failed to point out the differences between regular gt,1,2 and especially how to activate drift mode. What a waste of time