On Our Mark: Episode 97 - The Legendary 257 WBY MAG
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Proudly known as Roy's favorite cartridge, the 257 WBY MAG was built to shoot ultrafast and hit hard. Initially developed in the 1940s, the 257 speeds out of the barrel at 3700 fps and is known to drop animals where they stand. On this episode we're diving into the history, development, and ballistic information of the legendary 257 WBY MAG.
On this episode we discuss:
- Roy’s favorite cartridge
- One of the first developed
- Initially a wildcat cartridge
- Necking down a 375 H&H
- Technology at the time
- Chronograph situation in 1944
- Bullets and how far they’ve come
- Pushing velocities
- Using a 257 for elk?
- Environments where the 257 thrives
- Practicing on moving targets
- A once-in-a-lifetime Wyoming bison tag
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Perfect timing. I JUST bought a 257 WBY yesterday!
Love to hear it!
I love my 257 Weatherby! I have two loadings for it. A 92 gr Hammer Hunter with RL-22 at 3888 FPS and the 110 gr Accubond at 3500 FPS. Both loadings are sub Half MOA.
Heyy hope all is well :)
🤭 Did You Know That You Can Get 3,500 ft/s With That Same 110 grain Nosler Bullet (See The Nosler Manual) and 3,835 ft/s With a 85 grain Barnes Bullet (See Barnes Manual) With Your 270 Winchester? 😃 Just Saying...Austin! 😜
😂 Long Live The 270 Winchester! 🥇
🤠 You Need to Get Yourself a 270 Weatherby to Go With Your 300 Weatherby! 🔥
Out of all my Weatherby rifles my .257 is my favorite
74 grains of H1000, 92 grain HH’s, 400 yard zero. Taken all my three of my elk at 400 yards on, and all my antelope out to 600 yards.
I have a new 257 ordered in weatherguard bronze wby. so anxious to get it, have same one in 300 wby mag and love it
First hunting rifle/bolt action I purchased was a Weatherby Vanguard S2 in 257 Weatherby. Been using it for the past decade and it'll hammer a whitetail.
I do love my 30-378 weatherby the most
my uncle sold me his 1962 257 45 years ago , for many years it was my go to . 25 years a go had weaterby rebarrel it now its my sons 3 gens and still going strong . ol roy got it rite . went with the 7stw for years now the 30-378 is the go to.
Been shooting 257 for years awesome deer 🦌 cartridge. I am running 110 accubond at 3600 fps
My 257 says Paso Robles, CA on it from when Weatherby was still located on the Central Coast! Too bad my home state made it to where they had to move 😕 sweet collectors item now though!
Speed - math equations youngsters - distance in feet divided by time of flight = FPS
Please do the 338-378 next.
Please talk about the 7mm Weatherby magnum! I am interested in this one and would love to hear more on it first.
I have 2. It is an awesome cartridge if loaded with the new propellants. I favor the 155 Federal Terminal Ascent. The will between 3,275 and 3,301 FPS! Bullet has a .586 BC.
I favor RL 26 and it is not available. The new Ramshot Grand is a great substitute. You can substitute the 154 SST for small deer and antelope. I factory 175 will chronograph over 3,000 FPS.
@@jefferywilliams7687thanks for the info!
Let me start by saying I’m a Weatherby fan. I’ve owned several of your rifles and currently have 3 in my inventory. I also have a soft spot for my 257 and agree with most of what was said on your podcast. I don’t know that you can pick a cartridge that’s more perfect for open country deer and antelope. Having said that, there’s about a minute of conversation starting at 15:35 that I absolutely do not agree with, specifically around recoil. I have noticed that all of my Weatherby rifles seem to be softer shooting than your competitors offerings in the same chambering, probably because of the stock design and a good recoil pad. The extra weight in the Vanguard also helps tame recoil down quite a bit. My 257 heavier than a lot of rifles out there at near 9 pounds ready to hunt and it is certainly not “super low recoil” or “like a 6.5 Creedmoor… maybe less than”. That’s just silly. In fact, I’d say that 6.5 Creedmoor and other similar rounds are probably 60% of the recoil of the 257 Weatherby. I’m not saying it’s a hard kicker and certainly nothing like 300 Win Mag, etc., but the context of your conversation started with shooters who are smaller and many times more sensitive to recoil than a larger framed and perhaps more experienced shooter (talking about the guy’s wife). I would absolutely not put someone like that behind my 257 or any other rifle of similar recoil (think 270 Win) unless they had been shooting for a while. I do appreciate the comment added by the gentleman in blue about muzzle devices and suppressors as that would tame the rifle down some, but let’s be a little more fair about recoil so someone who doesn’t know any better doesn’t go out and and buy one of these and stick their wife or kid behind it because it’s super low recoil and softer than a 6.5. There’s no free lunch… to get the speed, there’s going to be recoil. I’ll buy comfortable to shoot or moderate recoil, but super low or soft… nope.
I load a 115 Ballastic Tip and 115 Nosler Partition at 3,475 with the new powders.
What is not talked about enough is velocity aids precise bullet placement, both from less wind drift and from less rise or drop from the sight plane. And placement is the game.
The 257 Wby Mag aka the Death ☠️ Ray has had my interest for a long time. I wouldn’t mind having one rifle in calibers sizes from 22 all the way up to maybe 🤔 a 375 H&H to compliment my 270 Win and 300 WSM. The 257 Wby Mag is my top choice for 25 cal and my favorite Weatherby cartridge.
I would have to settle on a right hand rifle in 257 Wby since the least expensive one is an Accumark at $2000. Sadly the Hunter model doesn’t have any lefties. So Vanguard Talon is most likely the winner for a 257 Wby for me at around $1000.
I love both of mine.
Time to put faster twist rifling in your barrels ! Like 1 in 8 for .257wby , same in the 300s . The person who talked about necking down the. 300wby to .257 , have you heard of the 257stw ?? Call Layne Simpson & consult with him . Hope you relative newbies have heard of him . I have loaded for 250savage , 257 Robert's, 25-06 & 257wby over the years . A fast twist 257wby & a 125gr mono metal bullet would provide better performance for elk & even moose ! In the meantime I'll continue loading my 257wby with 120 gr Speer or partition & full case of Retumbo . Cheers & good hunting !
Excited to be a new Weatherby owner and there was No debate...it Had to be the .257
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Between the 7 mm rem mag and 7 PRC the 7 mm Weatherby mag is the best just does not get the love it deserves I guess the 270 Weatherby might get a bit more
To my knowledge (7 mm Weatherby is the original high performance 7 mm )should be the advertising
🤠 The 300 WBY is Your Flagship Cartridge! But, You Need to Promote Your 7mm WBY and 270 WBY More, Now That the 7mm prc is "Flopping"! 🤷♂️
Make a left hand 307 and I will buy it and yes the .257 wby is money💰
Also what’s the real same barrel length between 257 and 25-06 what the actual velocity difference is
My 2 rifles have 24in barrels and my chronograph says the velocity difference is 150 to 200 fps with near max handloads .
Still waiting on that .257 rpm hope it happens someday